Bush’s ‘Soft Bigotry Of Low Expectations’ On Katrina Reconstruction
Bush’s ‘Soft Bigotry Of Low Expectations’ On Katrina Reconstruction
To mark the second anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, President Bush spoke today at the Dr. Martin Luther King Charter School for Math and Science, “armed with facts and figures” to show how much he has done. This appearance marked the fourth time in a row that Bush has chosen a charter school as a backdrop for his Gulf Coast appearance.
Today, Bush proclaimed, “I come telling the folks in this part of the world we still understand the problems.” He bragged that the federal government has provided Louisiana with $700 million in emergency education funds to rebuild the school system. “I believe in freedom to manage and accountability to make sure everybody learns,” said Bush. “It’s what I call challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations.” Watch it:
But a new report by the Atlanta-based Southern Education Foundation finds that the Bush administration has largely shortchanged the Gulf Coast’s schools. Some highlights:
– “The estimated cost of hurricane-related destruction in K-12 and higher education in Mississippi and Louisiana is $6.2 billion, but “the federal government has provided only $1.2 billion.”
– Just 2 percent of the federal government’s reconstruction funding went toward education recovery.
– Foreign governments contributed $131.5 million to recovery funding for Louisiana colleges, slightly
moreless than the $135 million contributed by the U.S. government.
Bush stated today that “education needs to be the number one priority” of the state of Louisiana. But it’s clear that it wasn’t nearly a top priority for his administration, which instead handed out billions of dollars in no-bid contracts to political allies.
Transcript:
When Hurricane Katrina broke through the levees, it broke a lot of hearts, it destroyed buildings, but it didn’t affect the spirit of a lot of citizens in this community.
This spirit can be best reflected when you think about a principal who refused to allow a school to be destroyed by the floor, and worked hard to not only rebuild the building but keep the spirit alive, or it can be reflected in the fact that teachers commute — we met a 7th grade teacher today who commutes 30 miles every day to be able to impart knowledge and to share wisdom with students who will be leading New Orleans in the future.
And so it’s a — my attitude is this: New Orleans, better days are ahead. It’s sometimes hard for people to see progress when you live in a community all the time.
Laura and I get to come — we don’t live here. We come on occasion. And it’s easy to think about what it was like when we first came here after the hurricane and what it’s like today. And this town’s coming back. This town is better today than it was yesterday. And it’s going to be better tomorrow than it was today.
And there’s no better place to find that out than in the school system. [...]
And so I come telling the folks in this part of the world we still understand the problems. And we’re still engaged. And Don will continue to make sure that we listen and respond when possible.
But let me talk about the school system. There is nothing more hopeful than a good school system. And I firmly believe that excellence in education is going to be the leading edge of change for New Orleans.
Margaret Spellings, who’s the secretary of education, understands this concept. The government has provided Louisiana with more than $700 million in emergency education funds to help not only the public school system but also the parochial school system. And that’s money well spent.
It’s money spent on construction. It’s money spent on creating incentives for teachers to return. It’s money to make sure children who went to other school districts — those school districts got reimbursed.
It was good money spent. Because education needs to be the number one priority of the state, just like Kathleen Blanco has made that the priority.
New Orleans is about to open 80 schools, nearly 80 schools this fall. That’s a remarkable achievement. Nearly half of which happen to be charter schools.
I believe in freedom to manage and accountability to make sure everybody learns. And that’s the essence of the charter school movement — freedom to manage, but accountability to make sure no child gets left behind. And that’s the spirit of the superintendent — both superintendents here.
They believe in high expectations and measuring. It’s what I call challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations. If you don’t believe that somebody can learn, you’ll set low expectations.
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. . $131.5 million to recovery funding for Louisiana colleges, slightly more than the $135 . .
Good commentary, but you might check the math.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:50 pmCall it what it is:
ethnic cleansing.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:50 pm.
“This town’s coming back,†he said after visiting with educators and students at the school in the hard-hit Lower Ninth Ward. “This town is better today than it was yesterday and it’s going to be better tomorrow than it is today.â€
He shows up with a generator for his photo op, then takes the generator as he leaves.
What a phony ass piece of crap this president is.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:51 pmIt continues to be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, that this adminstration and its much less than fearless leader, knows no bounds when it comes to hypocrisy as the above dismal record on Katrina recovery makes very clear. Too bad that he was not unwelcome to Louisiana.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:51 pmI see that he agrees with believing “in high expectations and measuring.” in schools.
But apparently not in his administration, or in the government response to New Orleans.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:51 pmI’m all for exposing Bush’s hideous record on Katrina, but really this:
“– Foreign governments contributed $131.5 million to recovery funding for Louisiana colleges, slightly more than the $135 million contributed by the U.S. government. “
is horrible math.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:51 pmAnd he wants an additional 50 billion for his personal war. Wake up you stupid ass repukes. You must love being this administration’s whores. Lets neglect our own infrastructure so we can destroy someone elses with the resourses. God just take this planet now because we are going to get there anyway.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:51 pmIs this the thread about the suspicious fundraising connected to the Hillary campaign? No…this isnt it.
Maybe it will the next thread, Im sure the TP staff is busy gathering info and preparing it for effective presentation.
Ill wait patiently, promise.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:52 pm“It’s what I call challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations.”
Karl is still whispering in George’s ear.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:52 pmUgh.
“Soft bigotry of low expectations” has been on Bush’s Top 10 Sounds Bites since before his first inauguration.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:53 pmmore pathetic Liberal drivel from TP….
I wonder why TP doesn’t talk about the local government in New Orleans, which is controlled by Democrats. Politicians who have stolen millions upon millions given to them by the Federal government. Jefferson comes to mind.
Oh wait, I know why…..because corrupt Democratic politicians are ok in the eyes of TP and Liberals. Instead, TP and Liberals need to make up things about Republicans.
pathetic. TP, you are only fooling Liberals, who we all know have IQs below 80.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:54 pmFox news . . . just blast off and nuke their site from orbit.
It’s the only way to be sure.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:55 pmBush said: “It’s what I call challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations.â€
Is Bush challenging himself?
August 29th, 2007 at 12:55 pmI wonder how many pops he had prior to this piece of shit speech.
Go to Hell, Chimpy.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:55 pmI guess I also need to wait for the hysterical comments here to target the mayor and governor, the REAL first responders who completely dropped the ball with Katrina.
I guess Nagin’s furniture was more important than getting all those drowned school buses on the road.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:55 pmand the $50B for Iraq. Jesus Christ when are people going to wake the hell up?
August 29th, 2007 at 12:56 pmCall it what it is:
ethnic cleansing.
.
Comment by Grand Moff Texan — August 29, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
Yes, by the black Democratic politicians that have been in power in New Orleans.
You are right buddy. Democratic blacks getting rid of their black pundits and voters. Jefferson comes to mind. Naggin too.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:57 pmI come telling the folks in this part of the world we still understand the problems.â€
He forgot to add the Motto of the Bush Administration:
“We just don’t care that much”
August 29th, 2007 at 12:59 pmI was wide awake when I saw the rest of the Katrina-ravaged gulf coast roll up their sleeves and get on with cleaning up and rebuilding.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:59 pmthe REAL first responders who completely dropped the ball with Katrina.
I guess Nagin’s furniture was more important than getting all those drowned school buses on the road.
Comment by Japaner — August 29, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
The “ball” was dropped on every level of the government. From local to federal. Frankly none of the people down there (La Blanca, Nagin, Bush, or Chertoff) should be doing anything involved with leading.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:00 pmwe still understand the problems.â€
August 29th, 2007 at 1:01 pmWe aren’t gonna do shit about them, but boy do we ever understand them. Now get your asses back to work!
the REAL first responders who completely dropped the ball with Katrina.
I guess Nagin’s furniture was more important than getting all those drowned school buses on the road.
Comment by Japaner — August 29, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
The “ball†was dropped on every level of the government. From local to federal. Frankly none of the people down there (La Blanca, Nagin, Bush, or Chertoff) should be doing anything involved with leading.
Comment by Krazny — August 29, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Really, the ball was dropped by everyone? wow, reading and hearing the Liberal news, the Democratic pundits it was all Bush’s fault.
I mean according to the crazed out, lunatic Liberals, Karl Rove created Katrina, Cheney directed to New Orleans and Bush had it hit the 9th Ward, right?
Naggin, La Blanca, the Democratic controlled New Orleans government which had for decades stolen millions that were suppose to go to reinforce and repair the levees had nothing to do with it. Of course, according to the Liberal pundits and politicians.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:08 pm“Is our children learning?”
“Just 2 percent of the federal government’s reconstruction funding went toward education recovery. “For every $2.5 billion spent for other purposes over the last two years, the federal govenrment has found only $1 to spend for Katrina-related education.—
2% of $2,500,000,000 =$50,000,000 not $1
August 29th, 2007 at 1:08 pmor
$1 spent on education out of every $50= 2%
we still understand the problems.â€
We aren’t gonna do shit about them, but boy do we ever understand them. Now get your asses back to work!
Comment by RUCerious — August 29, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
Seems to me like the “Chocolate” city wants victimhood status, while the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit by Katrina has risen up and gotten back on its feet. If Mississippi can get its Coast going again, why can’t New Orleans? Difference?
in New Orleans and Louisiana you have corrupt, Democratic politicians who are stealing millions.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:10 pmIs this the thread about the suspicious fundraising connected to the Hillary campaign? No…this isnt it. “Maybe it will the next thread, Im sure the TP staff is busy gathering info and preparing it for effective presentation.
Ill wait patiently, promise.
Comment by Japaner “
Japaner – you are free to leave and go to redstate.com and the other neocon websites that are touting this as a story when the facts they have are highly suspect. Perhaps TP isn’t in the business of printing specious allegations against anyone. If it is proven that Hillary did something wrong with her fund raising, I’m quite sure that TP will post the article.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:11 pmI am curious how many caging letters will be sent out to black voters in New Orleans who can no longer receive their mail at their old addresses? How many black voters will have their votes challenged in the next election? I would love to see some graphic according to how people vote just who is receiving whatever aid in dollars that is finding its way to New Orleans..
It would seem to me to be yet another reason or motivation of this President and Republican party to drag their feet with getting aid to the people in New Orleans who needed it the most. Not only will they have lost their homes, they will have lost their votes.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:11 pmWe are building schools in Iraq so we don’t have to build schools over here.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 1:11 pmWhy breaks out the racism against the folks in New Orleans. Yesterday Why was carping about “liberal racism” and now Why opens the racist bottle of hatred against New Orleans.
The difference is Bush has made things easier to accomplish in Mississippi because it is run by Haley Barbour, the former head of the Republican National Committee.
It is that simple.
Why does Why hate African-Americans and accuse them of corruption>
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 1:14 pm“I wonder why TP doesn’t talk about the local government in New Orleans, which is controlled by Democrats. Politicians who have stolen millions upon millions given to them by the Federal government. Jefferson comes to mind.”
Perhaps TP doesn’t post this because it hasn’t happened. Would you care to provide proof of your allegations? Or are we supposed to believe it just because you say it’s true?
Also, what does Jefferson have to do with reconstructing New Orleans? Just another straw-man argument. You trolls are totally incapable of making any kind of intelligent point. All you can do is to introduce straw-men or say “Clinton did it”. You are pathetic.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:14 pmCall it what it is:
ethnic cleansing.
.
Comment by Grand Moff Texan
August 29th, 2007 at 1:14 pm——————————————–
Yea like Clinton 800,000 Rwandan during peace time.
Wasn’t Clinton known for helping blacks?
Sad that 800,000 Rwandan experienced genocide on his term.
That’s alot of dead blacks.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:17 pmAs Nova M Radio talk show host, MIKE MALLOY, has stated well:
August 29th, 2007 at 1:19 pmResident Bush referring to New Orleans and Gulf Coast as ‘this PART OF THE WORLD????’ — isn’t he referring to a PART OF THE U.S.A.? is this not
a Freudian racist slip, or what? besides being a liar, etc., etc., he is obviously a racist, who also doesn’t care about the poor. Does he think he’s talking about a “third world country”.,? — that’s sure what he and his criminal pals have left it.
what an embarassment.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:20 pmhow humiliating it must be for a republican,
when it’s this man who speaks for you.
Seems to me like the “Chocolate†city wants victimhood status, while the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit by Katrina has risen up and gotten back on its feet. If Mississippi can get its Coast going again, why can’t New Orleans? Difference?
in New Orleans and Louisiana you have corrupt, Democratic politicians who are stealing millions.
Comment by why
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Good observation why.
This is why Dems love to keep blacks as victims and they are their “masters” who promise to take care of them after they are elected.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:20 pmBush proclaimed, “I come telling the folks in this part of the world we still understand the problems.”
IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD !!! ???
the ultimate admission of his class and status and how
he thinks it separates him, and his ilk, from the REAL world…
sik fuk…
August 29th, 2007 at 1:24 pm…
Why can’t officials get some of that foreign aid promised long ago and use it for funding school reconstruction? I’d love to see that. Not only would it be good for the community, it would shame the feds who deserve it.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:24 pmWasn’t Clinton known for helping blacks?
Sad that 800,000 Rwandan experienced genocide on his term.
That’s alot of dead blacks.
What about Darfur, now? What about those millions of diplaced Iraqis \/\/ went to free?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:25 pmIs this the thread about the suspicious fundraising connected to the Hillary campaign? No…this isnt it.
Maybe it will the next thread, Im sure the TP staff is busy gathering info and preparing it for effective presentation.
Ill wait patiently, promise.
Comment by Japaner
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TP does not do news stories on Democratic presidential fundraising Japaner
Keep lookin’ but I am sure you will not see it reported here:)
August 29th, 2007 at 1:25 pmin New Orleans and Louisiana you have corrupt, Democratic politicians who are stealing millions.
Saying it doesn’t make it true, unless you’re in the GOP.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:26 pmCheck out the beam in your own eye, unless you’re too
busy molesting pages, solicting bathroom sex, having a prostitute
put diapers on you, or getting indicted like the rest of the Republicans
out there.
George W. Bush is the ultimate example of a low expectation.
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August 29th, 2007 at 1:26 pmSeems to me like the “Chocolate†city -why
Racist are we? So why do you care about those oppressed ‘Mocha’ Iraqis? Or the Rwandans Bob here ‘cares’ for?
We spend billions rebuilding, or trying to, a foreign land. Operation Iraqi Freedom iis costing you much more than New Orleans.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:28 pm… and Karl Rove is the ultimate example of a soft bigot.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:29 pm“I was wide awake when I saw the rest of the Katrina-ravaged gulf coast roll up their sleeves and get on with cleaning up and rebuilding.”
Comment by Japaner
Then you saw how much money was steered to republican enclaves, such as Haley Barbour’s. It was a lot.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:29 pmSeems to me like the “Chocolate†city wants victimhood status, while the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit by Katrina has risen up and gotten back on its feet. If Mississippi can get its Coast going again, why can’t New Orleans? Difference?
in New Orleans and Louisiana you have corrupt, Democratic politicians who are stealing millions.
Comment by why
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Good observation why.
This is why Dems love to keep blacks as victims and they are their “masters†who promise to take care of them after they are elected.
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 1:20 pm
Democrats love their subserviant blacks. The party would get no where without them, so they must lie, lie, lie, and lie some more to stay in power.
New Orleans is one of the most government corrupt cities in the United States of America. the 9th Ward is inexcusable. And Liberals guess who has headed the New Orleans government for the past 60 years? Democrats!
New Orleans, a Democratic paradise.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:30 pmIs this the thread about the suspicious fundraising connected to the Hillary campaign? No…this isnt it.
No, this is about Rwandans according to Bob.
Peter Paul is not one o be trusted given his SEC violations.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:30 pmNew Orleans, a Democratic paradise.
Comment by why
No, its a Republican [Vitter] Diaper Wearaing prostitiute paradise!
Hey, how is that welfare Republican paradise in Iraq going Why?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:32 pmBetter than the Mariannas?
Ill wait patiently, promise.
Comment by Japaner — August 29, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
the FAST thread is an open one…
post your FACTUAL information, LINKS included, over there…
August 29th, 2007 at 1:32 pmand wait… there…
…
New Orleans is one of the most government corrupt cities in the United States of America. the 9th Ward is inexcusable. And Liberals guess who has headed the New Orleans government for the past 60 years? Democrats!
New Orleans, a Democratic paradise.
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Bingo why!
No hypocrisy down there.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:33 pmSeems to me like the “Chocolate†city -why
Racist are we? So why do you care about those oppressed ‘Mocha’ Iraqis? Or the Rwandans Bob here ‘cares’ for?
We spend billions rebuilding, or trying to, a foreign land. Operation Iraqi Freedom iis costing you much more than New Orleans.
Comment by Primus Inter Arse — August 29, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
racist? why? Naggin used the term, did he not? was it racist of him to use it? and as you see I put it between “”.
Oh, wait I get it, Democrats can use terms like “Chocolate” city, but Republicans can’t. My bad, i forgot!-idiot.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:34 pmI was wide awake when I saw the rest of the Katrina-ravaged gulf coast roll up their sleeves and get on with cleaning up and rebuilding.
Comment by Japaner — August 29, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
Then you missed NBC nightly news last night, showing the devastation on the Mississippi coast 2 years later. Even according to you rightards the only thing the government is supposed to do has been ignored by the Bush crime syndicate, unless profit can be made for the fat asses who kneel at his dick. Lies and hate, the coin of the GOP realm. Good riddance when you are finally flushed next year.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pmIll wait patiently, promise.
Comment by Japaner — August 29, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
the FAST thread is an open one…
post your FACTUAL information, LINKS included, over there…
and wait… there…
…
Comment by katy — August 29, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! it never fails with the Libtards, they demand links, facts, etc when all they do all day long is post hearsay, no links and Liberal spoon fed propaganda.
shut up katy. When all of the Liberals on this site put up what you demand from Japaner, then and only then demand it from him.
dumb, dumb, dumb…I MEAN REALLY DUMB! Liberals.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pm“Democrats love their subserviant blacks. The party would get no where without them, so they must lie, lie, lie, and lie some more to stay in power.”
More racist sentiments. Why am I not surprised? We all know who you’d really like blacks to be subservient to. Why not just clear the air and admit you would be happier with these “uppity blacks” as slaves?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:36 pmOh yes, I can recall Newt Gingrich(R)-Adulterer, and Rush Limbaugh(R)-V*agra, demanding immediate action in Rwanda.
Not.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 1:38 pmwhy Loiusiana has corruption in all levels of goverments local and state, but that’s nothing new or newsworthy :) part of doing business in that paticular Democrat state.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:38 pmSeems to me like the “Chocolate†city wants victimhood status, while the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit by Katrina has risen up and gotten back on its feet. If Mississippi can get its Coast going again, why can’t New Orleans? Difference?
in New Orleans and Louisiana you have corrupt, Democratic politicians who are stealing millions.
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
The rest of the coast was hit by Katrina. New Orleans is the only place where the levees, supposedly managed by the army corps of engineers, FAILED. What part of that is confusing for your little mind. The part that believes everything O’Reilly and Limbaugh tell you, I suspect.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmHow condescending to call citizens of the United States,”citizens of this part of the world”. He did the same thing two years when he took a crap on the already heaping wreckage, and left without wiping his behind. We are all represented in this Bush-enhanced tragedy, and we are all offended by the Monarch’s so much as saying “let them eat cake”. Carter would hand him a hammer to rebuild homes, but Bush only clears brush, or his guilt for broken promises to “this part of the world”.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmNew Orleans is one of the most government corrupt cities in the United States of America. the 9th Ward is inexcusable. And Liberals guess who has headed the New Orleans government for the past 60 years? Democrats!
New Orleans, a Democratic paradise.
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Bingo why!
No hypocrisy down there.
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 1:33 pm
I was in New Orleans in Summer 2004. It was my first time there. I was appauled and shocked at how much it looked like a 3rd world nation, well some parts of it.
The French Quarter, which is trendy and plenty of whites visit it, well kept, clean, nice, etc.
the 9th Ward, full of blacks, straight out of a 3rd World Nation. I was shock to see this. Then I dug a bit into the politics of New Orleans and was even more shocked to learn that the black Democratic politicians of New Orleans don’t take care of their own. That they much rather steal and lie then to bring New Orleans into the 21st century. New Orleans is a Democratic party embarrasment.
New Orleans is the dirty little secret of the Democratic party. They want it hushed and they want to blame Bush for all the ills there. How truly sad and pathetic.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmshut up katy. When all of the Liberals on this site put up what you demand from Japaner, then and only then demand it from him.
Comment by why
Funny, I have given links, I have seen no links on your posts, just the same old reheated talking points and baseless ad hominem attacks as the last decade. Now that Roves gone, whos gonna think for you?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmNotice how Bush has done zero, nada, zip in Darfur. As a matter of fact Republican media darling Ann Coulter has complained that the genocide is going to slowly in Rwanda.
It explains why there are NO elected African-American Republicans in national office.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pmSeems to me like the “Chocolate†city wants victimhood status, while the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit by Katrina has risen up and gotten back on its feet. If Mississippi can get its Coast going again, why can’t New Orleans? Difference?
in New Orleans and Louisiana you have corrupt, Democratic politicians who are stealing millions.
Comment by why
Your ignorant, hateful racism paints you as an unevolved barbarian Republican stooge. Therefore, no suprise when you can offer no proof of your lies. it’s expected from the america-hating right.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pmronjazz has never done “business” in La.
ronjazz ever here of the term “good ole boys”?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pm“If Mississippi can get its Coast going again, why can’t New Orleans? Difference?”
Haley Barbour, former head of the national republican party is governor of Missippi. Are you really that naive?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:40 pmNaggin, La Blanca, the Democratic controlled New Orleans government which had for decades stolen millions that were suppose to go to reinforce and repair the levees had nothing to do with it. Of course, according to the Liberal pundits and politicians.
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
That’s a good one. You believe the state or city is supposed to repair the levees. What do you think the Army Corp of Engineers is for, Einstein? And the money was NEVER provided to any jurisdiction to do what needed to be done, even though warnings were given.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pmNew Orleans is the dirty little secret of the Democratic party
Yeh that must be why George is there. idiot. Its so much more of a secret than that disaster called Iraq and that other poppy secret called Afghanistan.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pmSince you Bush supporters are so quick to point out Clinton’s failings in Rwanda, I’m sure you’re just all fired up about Bush’s failure to do anything about Darfur.
Let me point out that Clinton himself publically admits that Rwanda was one of his biggest failures as president. Don’t hold your breath waiting for this little elitist punk president admitting any kind of failure in Darfur or anywhere else for that matter.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pmSeems to me like the “Chocolate†city wants victimhood status, while the rest of the Gulf Coast that was hit by Katrina has risen up and gotten back on its feet. If Mississippi can get its Coast going again, why can’t New Orleans? Difference?
in New Orleans and Louisiana you have corrupt, Democratic politicians who are stealing millions.
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
The rest of the coast was hit by Katrina. New Orleans is the only place where the levees, supposedly managed by the army corps of engineers, FAILED. What part of that is confusing for your little mind. The part that believes everything O’Reilly and Limbaugh tell you, I suspect.
Comment by shane — August 29, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
Actually shane, the Mississippi coast was as devastated as New Orleans. Towns after towns in that coast were 100% destroyed!!!!!
please put down the Liberal talking points, stop listening to Al franken, Alan Colmes, TP and try to think on your own.
and sorry kid, the levees were the responsability of the city of New Orleans, they were built by the Army Corp of engineers, but it was the duty of the government of New Orleans to keep it up to date. But guess what, my Liberal pundit, all the federal millions that were suppose to go to the levees went instead to the pockets of corrupt Democratic politicians.
by the way, the 9th Ward was around long before Katrina hit…..care to explain this Democratic “paradise”?
stop spewing Liberal talking points, you are only fooling yourself fand other Liberals with very low IQs.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:42 pmWhy said: “Then I dug a bit into the politics of New Orleans and was even more shocked to learn that the black Democratic politicians of New Orleans don’t take care of their own. That they much rather steal and lie then to bring New Orleans into the 21st century.”
Remember yesterday when we talked about Alberto Gonzales the outrage at any attacks on him by Why, claiming that they were racist. Now we have the blanket indictment of “Blacks” in New Orleans.
Talk about open racism.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 1:42 pmYea like Clinton 800,000 Rwandan during peace time.
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
No, more like the million in Dharfur and 650,000 dead Iraqis.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pmNaggin, La Blanca, the Democratic controlled New Orleans government which had for decades stolen millions
Yeh they should have built a bridge to nowhere instead, huh? Say how is that investigation going?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pmNew Orleans is the dirty little secret of the Democratic party. They want it hushed and they want to blame Bush for all the ills there. How truly sad and pathetic.
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
Republicans own the devastation and the rape and slaughter of New Orleans; it’s why you’ll not see a Republican president again for decades. Bush is, as y8ou say, truly sad and pathetic, and will be the worst president in American history until the next Repig steals the White House.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pmKatrina was a disaster fifty years in the making, according to an ex-Green Beret Army Officer friend who told me the following story.
From the late 1940s to the late ’60s, this friends great-uncle was a senior Army officer in the Army Corps of Engineers and was involved and in the latter part of his career, in charge of bolstering the levee system protecting New Orleans. He had more than fifteen years on the job there and was intimately involved in the construction, repair, and enlargement of the vast system enclosing the city and its suburbs.
His great-uncle told my friend that as the years progressed, the city government of New Orleans became much more involved in contracting out and the bidding process for repairing the levees. The Democrats in charge of New Orleans began consistently lobbying for more control of this process and finally, over the protests of the professional military engineers, was able to have almost complete control over who got the contracts. The due diligence the Corps made after the repairs found more and more often that shoddy workmanship and materials were weakening the dykes, and reported this up their command chain to Washington [the military don't run to newspapers like the Times-Picayune who often side with the Democratic politicians].
After years of non-improvement of the process, the COE finally resigned itself to overseeing a politicized kickback and underperformance ritual with the levees. My friends uncle told him that sooner or later the “Big One” would knock over the levees. His uncle died before the “Big One” arrived in 2005.
And when it happened, whose door did the MSM lay the broken levees and subsequent disaster in front of?
The real culprits, which were the Democratic administrations Moon Landriau and his crooked relative Sen. Mary and their political ancestors and allies?
Or a fake bogus made-up smear, which blamed the Republicans?
Take one guess.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:43 pmLaura and I get to come — we don’t live here. We come on occasion.
What a skank!
August 29th, 2007 at 1:44 pmOf course he doesn’t live there, and on occasion means once every anniversary, to proclaim what a great job they’ve done managing this travesty.
He should be forced to live in the lower 9th for a year. Like the year 2010.
(R)Abramoff is singing like a bird why!
August 29th, 2007 at 1:44 pm“IT’S GOING TO BE BETTER TOMORROW THAN IT WAS TODAY”…
August 29th, 2007 at 1:44 pm-IDIOT -IN CHIEF-
IS,WAS,…HE HAS TROUBLE WITH “BIG” WORDS !
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
jeez, Bob, aren’t you embarrassed?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pmHow about urserious joining him oh compassionate one
August 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pmTypical Republicans attacking gays. Now they are blaming the dykes for the New Orleans disaster.
Stop the hate!
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pmTake one guess.
Comment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
And which Democrat was having his picture taken with a guitar as this went down?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:46 pmronjizz nope not embarrassed one bit
August 29th, 2007 at 1:47 pmSince you Bush supporters are so quick to point out Clinton’s failings in Rwanda, I’m sure you’re just all fired up about Bush’s failure to do anything about Darfur.
Let me point out that Clinton himself publically admits that Rwanda was one of his biggest failures as president. Don’t hold your breath waiting for this little elitist punk president admitting any kind of failure in Darfur or anywhere else for that matter.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 29, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Darfur is another Rwanda-like mess. Yes Bush has failed in Darfur.
The difference between those of use who sometimes support Bush and those that sucked Clinton’s d….ck is that we don’t excuse Bush lack of action in Darfur. ON the other hand, Liberals and democrats did everything and anything they could to say how innocent Clinton was when it came to Rwanda. The blood of 800,000 Tutsis, men, women and children lay at the feet of Clinton/Democrats and the United Nations. Aren’t you Liberals supposed to be all about Human Rights? Of course not.
and isn’t it great, that after the fact, after he coward away under his desk doing an intern Clinton can now say…..ooops……800,000 deaths in Rwanda is my fault.
stupid Liberals, so small minded, so naive, so gullibe.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:47 pmPeople please wake up this madman is heading us towards war with Iran., this resident is a sociopath, and I am a professional in the field — he lies, lies, lies, knows he’s lying, and it doesn’t matter. All that matters, like
August 29th, 2007 at 1:48 pm“The Bad Seed” movie of long ago, is what he wants. And what’s with “his wife” …is she a “Stepford Wife” or what? I knew that this resident and cronies were going to be bad but they have exceeded my low expectations of just how bad they would be. 15 months is a very long time in hell.
How about urserious joining him oh compassionate one
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
So you want another Dem not responsible for that disaster to pay? Some Personal Responsibility. You’re a phony.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:48 pmYea like Clinton 800,000 Rwandan during peace time.
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
No, more like the million in Dharfur and 650,000 dead Iraqis.
Comment by shane — August 29, 2007 @ 1:43 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
even the UN says that the 650,000 figure is a made up number by left wing lunatics. hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
poor desperate liberals.
and say it was the same…..you hate Bush for IRaq, yet you want to sleep with Clinton even though Rwanda happened. Care to explain your obvious and pathetic hypocrisy little Libtard?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:49 pmAmerica owns the disaster. As soon as the pointy fingers cease we can all work to rebuild the region.
Democrats could have done more. Republicans could have as well. The local and state agencies could have responded quicker. Federal agencies could have come in with some type of plan and authority. The blame game can go on for ages. What’s going to be done now is the only question that should be addressed.
Currently Bush hasn’t kept his promises regarding the entire region. He is our President and made promises to stay as long as needed until New Orleans is rebuilt. I hold him to that.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:49 pmRecall that bush put rove in charge of overseeing reconstruction from Katrina. Now that the carpetbagger has resigned, will things go from bad to worse; or, alternately, get better?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:49 pmHe said what?!? “I come telling the folks in this part of the world we still understand the problems” WTF? Last I checked, the President doesn’t usually refer to one of the 50 states in the Union or a region of the United States of America as “this part of the world.” This slip explains a lot about how he really feels about LA and MS.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:50 pmstupid Liberals, so small minded, so naive, so gullibe.
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
well, you morons have managed to kill and displace more in Iraq, DIRECTLY, by your own actions and lack of human compassion or thinking apparatus. Stupid Repigs, so murderous, so unevolved, so OVER, finally.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:50 pmComment by why
“Tell me why, why, why
August 29th, 2007 at 1:51 pmTell me why, why, why, why
Must a good [troll] go bad”
…………………………………..Boz Scaggs
stop spewing Liberal talking points, you are only fooling yourself fand other Liberals with very low IQs.
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
You need to do your research because you are wrong on so many levels it’s frightening. The money was NEVER ALLOCATED to fix the levees the way the needed to be fixed. It was a disaster waiting to happen.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:53 pm“you hate Bush for IRaq, yet you want to sleep with Clinton even though Rwanda happened. Care to explain your obvious and pathetic hypocrisy little Libtard?”
Comment by why —
The difference between starting a war for bogus reasons, and standing by while Rwanda occurred? Bush senior burned Clinton in Somalia as he was leaving office, so it’s understandable.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:54 pmronjazz
Remember what Yogi said, and with delirious dolts like you peddling misinformation, the Republicans may actually beat Hillarious/Obama in ‘08.
Or perhaps you support the hair-and-makeup candidate and Dennis the Menace?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:54 pmBush has a lot of gall to show his face in New Orleans. Shame on him!
August 29th, 2007 at 1:55 pmAbramoff is singing like a bird why!
Comment by Primus Inter Arse — August 29, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
You have to sing for the feds to put you in one of their coutry club prisons. Noncooperative prisoners stay in the crappy ones.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:56 pmstop spewing Liberal talking points, you are only fooling yourself fand other Liberals with very low IQs.
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
You need to do your research because you are wrong on so many levels it’s frightening. The money was NEVER ALLOCATED to fix the levees the way the needed to be fixed. It was a disaster waiting to happen.
Comment by shane — August 29, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
is that because Spike Lee told you? yeah, he also said that he saw Navy Seals blow up the levee.
Liberal, you are the one that is so wrong, it is pathetic that someone like you is allowed to vote.
and the money WAS allocated, but the Democratic politicians in New Orleans pocketed all the money.
I know, I Know it comes as an incredible shock to brainwashed Dumbcrats like you that Democratic politicians are corrupt. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Stop telling others to do research and you do yours. YOu aren’t just wrong, you are the typical liberal that sticks its head in the ground when they are told the truth.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:57 pmand say it was the same…..you hate Bush for IRaq, yet you want to sleep with Clinton even though Rwanda happened. Care to explain your obvious and pathetic hypocrisy little Libtard?
Comment by why am i a dumbass
Um, maybe because Clinton didn’t actually order the massacre, like your hero Bush did ?
August 29th, 2007 at 1:57 pmIs that really hard to comprehend ?
“Remember what Yogi said, and with delirious dolts like you peddling misinformation…”
What? Like “I’m smarter than the avvveerraggge bear?”
Or, “Oh, no; here comes Mr. Ranger, Boo Boo?”
August 29th, 2007 at 1:58 pmHow fitting that he’d go to a charter school. Especially since there are waiting lists for enrollement in New Orleans public schools because less than half of them have been re-opened.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:59 pmGod, Clinton this and Clinton that. When the hell will Jr. even have to stand on his own two feet (are they really his or did he inherit those as well?)
Last I checked, the US didn’t start the genocide in Rwanda or Darfur. And in the case of Rwanda, I believe the GOP controlled Congress didn’t want to get involved, not the Democratic (and democratically elected) President at the time. Not so certain the same can be said for Iraq, but you go on and believe what you want to believe. It’s not like you care about the humanitarian aspects of any situation, even your own.
August 29th, 2007 at 1:59 pmI can’t believe they haven’t fixed the “slightly more” typo yet. Lol. Quick, TP Editors, before Drudge makes fun of you! ;-)
August 29th, 2007 at 1:59 pmThe Prez is just being nice. Either that or he doesn’t have the heart to tell NOLA that if the feds rebuild the city, they’ll just have to do it again – perhaps sooner than latter.
The political leadership of LA and NOLA knew decades in advance that NOLA was a disaster waiting to happen. It happened and it was called Katrina. There is not enough money to make that place safe, and the Prez doesn’t show real compassion if he falsely leads the people of NOLA to believe that the situation can be fixed.
It may be another 40 years before a storm of this magnitude shows up again, but it could happen again in 2007.
I suppose, metaphorically speaking, that some people take several applications of the that big metaphorical 2×4 to insure their learning.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:00 pmOooooh the trolls get nasty when you impugn their God Bush. Almost frantic in their support for the little guy. cumenboca and Mr. P’s most recent alias, why, are madly scrubbing the shit off their diety.
Give it up b*tches, your God is soiled beyond repair. You are blowing the wrong loser.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:00 pmOr perhaps you support the hair-and-makeup candidate and Dennis the Menace?
Comment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Hair and make-up, you mean Mitt Romney? How many wives do you think it took to have those five kids. Seen “Big Love” on HBO? It will be great for Mitt’s race. Go Mitt.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:00 pmshane, the money had been allocated to repair and bolster the levees for fifty-plus years before Katrina, but the Dhimmi-crats in NO managed to William Jefferson the funds into various metaphorical ice-box/freezers for decades instead of getting real contractors to do real fix-up repairs.
Because like you, the Dhimmi-crats are irrational and lack accountability, as Jack Nicholson pointed out in “As Good as It Gets.”
The crooks running NO since the Civil War & Reconstruction ended have sown the seeds of disaster and are now finger-pointing everywhere except the real criminal malfeasant.
Guess who that would be, shane?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:02 pmwhy: “ON the other hand, Liberals and democrats did everything and anything they could to say how innocent Clinton was when it came to Rwanda.”
Can you give us even ONE example of this?
why: “and say it was the same…..you hate Bush for IRaq, yet you want to sleep with Clinton even though Rwanda happened. Care to explain your obvious and pathetic hypocrisy little Libtard?”
Hey stupid, the comparisons are either Rwanda – Darfur or Bosnia – Iraq. Is your little brain to stunted to get those comparisons clear? Let me spell it out for you because it’s clear that critical thinking is not your strong suit: Rwanda and Darfur are humanitarian interventions; Bosnia and Iraq are military ventures although the case could be made that Bosnia was also a humanitarian intervention.
And, you keep bringing up IQ’s. Tell us Einstien, which states have the most per capita college graduates and the most people with post-graduate degrees – Red or Blue? Don’t give yourself a headache trying to figure that one out.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:02 pmshane, you are so clever with Mitt. Guess you’re just a bigot against Mormons and sane people—-it shows.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:03 pmnd in the case of Rwanda, I believe the GOP controlled Congress didn’t want to get involved, not the Democratic (and democratically elected) President at the time.-po
Also Clinton has said that his inaction in Rwanda is his greatest regret.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:03 pmBush has no regrets about the rivers of blood he has unleashed.
Levee-raising is only part of the flood-related work that has stopped since the federal government began reducing Corps of Engineers appropriations in 2001 [Current Admin], as more money was diverted to homeland security, the fight against terrorism and the war in Iraq.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004025.php
August 29th, 2007 at 2:03 pmIt is sad to see that this thread has become a “kick New Orleans when it is down” party.
The people who live here don’t deserve it.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:04 pmThey are victims of a failed federal levee system.
They are rebuilding, maybe not as fast as Mississippi, because both Louisiana and Mississippi were allocated the same amount of recovery funds, but Louisiana had five times the amount of damage. Also, most of that money is stuck in the red tape pipeline and hasn’t reached its intended destinations yet.
The spirit of the city is alive and cannot be killed. Come visit and see for yourself.
God, Clinton this and Clinton that. When the hell will Jr. even have to stand on his own two feet (are they really his or did he inherit those as well?)
Last I checked, the US didn’t start the genocide in Rwanda or Darfur. And in the case of Rwanda, I believe the GOP controlled Congress didn’t want to get involved, not the Democratic (and democratically elected) President at the time. Not so certain the same can be said for Iraq, but you go on and believe what you want to believe. It’s not like you care about the humanitarian aspects of any situation, even your own.
Comment by po — August 29, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
a Liberal complaing about Conservatives bringing up Clinton.
fool, when Liberals stop bringing up George H. Bush, Reagan, and Nixon, will shut up about Clinton. What is good for the goose is good for gander.
well of course unless you a Democratic, Liberal hypocrite.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:06 pmwell of course unless you a Democratic, Liberal hypocrite.
Comment by why
The GOP fax machine must be working again, I see the current talking point is hypocrisy, as usual its the reverse psychology mandated by Rovian blame game BS. Conservatism is an organize hypocrisy.
Now post some factual links WHY.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmIt’s nice that Daveinboca knows so much about Louisiana politics. A little background. The government only funds projects incrementally. The levees are a perfect example. Greed, graft and corruption don’t help. But, having lived in most regions of this great nation for more than a couple of months, greed, graft and corruption are the norm, not the exception.
The fact remains that the feds dropped the ball. They have all the big guns and the large checkbook. In disasters, we, the American people, assume that the locals will be overburdened. That they can rely, supposedly, on the federal government — with offices all over these here United States, including in areas where the disaster ain’t — to assist when assistance is something, until this administration, we all believed without questioning.
When mother nature next gets pissed and your pretty little place in Boca goes underwater, don’t cry to us Dave. Shit happens.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmNice! Surround yourself with children so you won’t be challenged intellectually.
Rove could’ve set up a better PR stunt than this for him.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:09 pmBoy, you know you are dealing with a Kool-Aid soaked Bush Cultist when the term ‘Dhimmicrats’ starts flying around.
It reminds me of that pathological blogger Atlas Shruggs.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 2:10 pmnd in the case of Rwanda, I believe the GOP controlled Congress didn’t want to get involved, not the Democratic (and democratically elected) President at the time.-po
Also Clinton has said that his inaction in Rwanda is his greatest regret.
Bush has no regrets about the rivers of blood he has unleashed.
Comment by xegar — August 29, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
Wow, talk about ignorant Liberals.
The President of the United States, under the War Powers, has the power to mobilized our troops for 90 days without approval of Congress.
Reagan did it when he bombed Lybia.
So, if Clinton cared so much about Human Rights, he didn’t need the Republican Controlled Congress to do something about it.
and let us not forget that the UN also did nothing. I guess it is also the fault of the Republican controlled Congress of the 1990s that the UN sat back, recalled its troops and allowed the UN massacre to happen, right?
and yeah, easy for Clinton to now say it was his biggest regreat, while in 1994 he coward away in the Oval Office while he screwed interns.
pathetic how Liberals excuse how teh world failed in Rwanda.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:10 pmOr perhaps you support the hair-and-makeup candidate and Dennis the Menace?
Comment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
What’s the problem? You’re afraid that even Kucinich will wipe the floor with the crossdressing, cultist walking corpses representing your dead and discredited party? I don’t blame you, you have nothing left but hot air and wholesale lies. Who should design Rudely’s inaugural gown? Will Mitt wear his magic underwear on the outside? Will Fred be sworn in inside the oxygen tent? These are the questions your side is dealing with in the fanasyland where they don’t lose by a historical landslide. In the meantime, how many more wars is Bush going to lose before he finally slinks away, as he did on 9/11? How many more Saudi sheiks is he going to sleep with? How many more military families is he going to destroy with his stop-loss slavery? How many more suicides of servicemen will he notch on his faux gunbelt? How much more of this depravity is enough for you anti-American cowards?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:10 pmfool, when Liberals stop bringing up George H. Bush, Reagan, and Nixon, will shut up about Clinton. What is good for the goose is good for gander.
You can talk about Clinton all you want, nobody listens to that crap anymore, its LAME. Its obfuscation for the current admins incompetence on many issues.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:11 pmNice! Surround yourself with children so you won’t be challenged intellectually.
Rove could’ve set up a better PR stunt than this for him.
Comment by amerikagulag — August 29, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! typical Liberal hypocrite…as if Democratic politicians don’t pull PR stunts.
are you Liberals truly this stupid? or are you guys just playing?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:11 pmGod, Clinton this and Clinton that. When the hell will Jr. even have to stand on his own two feet (are they really his or did he inherit those as well?)
Comment by po — August 29, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
When Bush campaigned in 2000, he wanted to “restore dignity to the White House” and promised to adhere to a higher standard. Now, whenever we point out lapses in adhering to their “higher standards”, the response is “Clinton did it too!” from all their sycophants.
Look, if conservatives REALLY want to set higher standards, they need to quit comparing themselves to past administrations and live up to the level of character they promised.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:12 pmIt is sad that we have to debate with Bush-trolls who can’t distinguish the difference between a genocide that was not intervened upon with a decision to bring about the deaths of 650,000 to one million.
Chimpy is closing in on Pol Pots recored.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 2:13 pmAnd, you keep bringing up IQ’s. Tell us Einstien, which states have the most per capita college graduates and the most people with post-graduate degrees – Red or Blue? Don’t give yourself a headache trying to figure that one out.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 29, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
Wherever you live, Reticulated Colon, you will always remain double-digit in the IQ department.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:13 pmwhy: “ON the other hand, Liberals and democrats did everything and anything they could to say how innocent Clinton was when it came to Rwanda.â€
You keep spewing out these specious accusations AND, at the same time, chastising “liberals” for their lack of researching skills and low IQ’s. I’ve asked you once before for ANY example to support the above statement and you conveniently ignored it.
Let’s have it, smart guy. You made an accusation. Did you pull it out of a dark place behind you or do you have ANY example of this you can offer. If you don’t have any example of this, it’s just bullshite and you know it. If you want to come here and make sweeping judgements about the intelligence of “liberals,” maybe you should come prepared. Otherwise, you’re just another raving Bush cultist with no brains and no facts.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:13 pmIt is sad to see that this thread has become a “kick New Orleans when it is down†party.
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Comment by Art — August 29, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
excellent point… hard to imagine actually, how it got so low…
sad commentary about OUR country…
and thanks for the invite… that’s what new orleans needs – visitors!
August 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pm…
Missmolly,
Funny isn’t it. We have listened to 7 years of Republicans arguing that Bill Clinton’s standards and ethics are all they aspire to live up to.
Funny, hypocritical and pathetic.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pmThe fact is Federal funding was cut off for raising the levees in 2001 to pay for DHS and for this freedom operation in Iraq while Stevens was bilking the government for millions for a bridge to nowhere. The consequences of that has COST much more than it would have to have continued the repair of the levees.
This is bad, incpmpetent planning by congress and the current administration.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pmHAHAHAHAHA!!!! typical Liberal hypocrite…as if Democratic politicians don’t pull PR stunts.
are you Liberals truly this stupid? or are you guys just playing?
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Of course, no examples from you, just more lies you can’t back up. Lies, the coin of the republican LOSERS!
August 29th, 2007 at 2:15 pmIt is sad that we have to debate with Bush-trolls who can’t distinguish the difference between a genocide that was not intervened upon with a decision to bring about the deaths of 650,000 to one million.
Chimpy is closing in on Pol Pots recored.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — August 29, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! even the UN disagrees with the 650,000 figure.
You crazed eyed, left wing lunatics love making up numbers. How truly sad.
and of course, it is Bush’s fault that terrorists in Iraq are running around killing Iraqis, right?
Of course unless you consider our troopps (who the left constantly reminds us how much they support) terrorists.
child, you are beyond stupid, it is sad that ‘tards like you are allowed to vote. my goodness.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:16 pmChimp Pot.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 2:16 pmComment by daveinboca
Col Ripper, I have seen this guy daveinboca post drivel on Kevin Drums blog as well. Certainly not a holder of a high IQ.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pmIt is sad that we have to debate with Bush-trolls who can’t distinguish the difference between a genocide that was not intervened upon with a decision to bring about the deaths of 650,000 to one million.
Chimpy is closing in on Pol Pots recored.-GSD
You’re closing in on Billy-Jeff’s finger-wagging lies to the American people, both in press conferences and under oath [a felony for the crime prone Dhimmi-crat double-digit iQ mouth-breathing slack-jawed Reticulated Colons on this thread].
BJClinton never stopped lying, although Gee-Mah Carter did once he became an anti-Semite and outed himself.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pmWhy lamely mewls:
“and of course, it is Bush’s fault that terrorists in Iraq are running around killing Iraqis, right?”
So using this logic is was definately not Bill Clinton’s fault that genocidal Hutu’s were running around killing Rwandans…….Right?
Pathetic.
But that is what you Bush Cultists are paid to do.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pmand of course, it is Bush’s fault that terrorists in Iraq are running around killing Iraqis, right?
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Exactly so, first glimmer or truth out of you. There were no terrorists blowing up iraqi families under Saddam, not until the barbarian Bush stole the White House did that happen.
You’re really too stupid for words.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:17 pmOr perhaps you support the hair-and-makeup candidate.
comment by daveinboca
Would that be RUDEE or the Mitt? Or maybe both? Is that your Dream Ticket?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:18 pmThat makes me happy to read that. Sort of a silver lining to the whole terrible story.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:18 pmMaybe the Dead Kennedys can update Holiday in Cambodia to Holiday in Iraq
August 29th, 2007 at 2:19 pmBJClinton never stopped lying, although Gee-Mah Carter did once he became an anti-Semite and outed himself.
Comment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
wrong again, fact-free moron. Are we back to one idiot wingnut masquerading as several idiot wingnuts? Let’s here how much y8ou love the UN, daveinbullshit.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:19 pmOh this love for Rwanda. Let’s hear it “Don’t cry for me Rwanda . . .” oh wait, y’all never gave a shit about it when it was going on and made it politically impossible for Clinton to do much about it at the time. That damn Clinton. What a joke.
As for the UN, yeah, it has a hard time deciding on much of anything, what with the multiple viewpoints that have to get worked through before something can get done. That’s what conservatives like about the UN — they can use it as target practice and blame it for not getting anything done all while not funding its missions or supporting anything it does.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:19 pmwhy: “ON the other hand, Liberals and democrats did everything and anything they could to say how innocent Clinton was when it came to Rwanda.â€
I see you still can’t give us any example of this. It’s just nonsense you pulled out of your ass like every other one of your posts. What a pathetic cultist.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:22 pmFor the guy that can’t be bothered with checking out other liberal web sites for the post
August 29th, 2007 at 2:22 pmand of course, it is Bush’s fault that terrorists in Iraq are running around killing Iraqis, right?
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Yes it is. Go look and see. Can’t blame a terrorist for seizing a good opportunity. It’s like kiddy porn to a pedophile or crack to a junkie. Can’t help themselves.
Saddam didn’t like competition, especially not from no stinking religious folk. He was secular, but liked to play Sunni off of Shite (and we’re learning now, what we should have and did know before we went in, payback is a bitch)
August 29th, 2007 at 2:22 pmand of course, it is Bush’s fault that terrorists in Iraq are running around killing Iraqis, right?
Actually congress gave Bush the power to use force. But he is the decider in chief. Misremember?
Tell us why WHY, Bush Sr didnt go into Baghdad?
Can you say destabilize the region? And what are we trying to do now?
Stabilize the region?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:22 pmHAHAHAHAHA!!!! typical Liberal hypocrite…as if Democratic politicians don’t pull PR stunts.
are you Liberals truly this stupid? or are you guys just playing?
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Of course, no examples from you, just more lies you can’t back up. Lies, the coin of the republican LOSERS!
Comment by ronjazz — August 29, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! another Liberal hypocrite.
Tell y ou what son, when every single Liberal that spews hate against Republicans and Conservatives puts up links, and sources and examples to their hateful rants, I’ll start doing the same. Until then, imbecile, make sure that youd emand of those you disagree with the same that you demand of those you agree with.
I know that you can’t help being a hypocrite since you are a Liberal, but at least try to hide it like you Democratic politicians.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:23 pmThat makes me happy to read that. Sort of a silver lining to the whole terrible story.
Comment by Parrotlover77 — August 29, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Yea, and that is IN SPITE of the BushCo “support”. They have done whatever has been done on their own.
But maybe they should have all gone to live in the AstroDome, since Babs Bush said they had a better life there then they ever did at home.
Now we know why Dubya is such a racist a$$klown, he inherited it from his Mam.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:23 pmOr perhaps you support the hair-and-makeup candidate.
comment by daveinboca
See COl. its unintelligent. Just a troll that canvasses Democratic blogs with baseless drabble
August 29th, 2007 at 2:25 pmTell y ou what son, when every single Liberal that spews hate against Republicans and Conservatives puts up links, and sources and examples to their hateful rants, I’ll start doing the same. Until then, imbecile, make sure that youd emand of those you disagree with the same that you demand of those you agree with.
I know that you can’t help being a hypocrite since you are a Liberal, but at least try to hide it like you Democratic politicians.
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
sweet little cop out.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:25 pmand of course, it is Bush’s fault that terrorists in Iraq are running around killing Iraqis, right?
Comment by why — August 29, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
Yes it is. Go look and see. Can’t blame a terrorist for seizing a good opportunity. It’s like kiddy porn to a pedophile or crack to a junkie. Can’t help themselves.
Saddam didn’t like competition, especially not from no stinking religious folk. He was secular, but liked to play Sunni off of Shite (and we’re learning now, what we should have and did know before we went in, payback is a bitch)
Comment by po — August 29, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
yes, of course is Bush’s fault, he gave the terrorist all the weapons, money, means, etc to go kill Iraqis.
stupid, moronic Liberals! seriously people. You morons are beyond help.
Terrorists kill innocent Iraqis because they want to.
and I guess what you are saying is that you would prefer Iraqis being thrown into a mass grave under Saddam Hussein, right?
that’s your idea of being nice to the Iraqis.
At least now they have a chance to leave in freedom, under Hussein if you won the lottery it was to go bury your tortured body in a mass grave.
but we all know that Liberals would love it if Hussein was in power still filling up his mass graves with the tortured body of Iraqi men, women and children.
AHHHHHHHHH!!!! don’t you Libtards love Liberal compassion?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:26 pmsweet little cop out.
Comment by alp3 — August 29, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
Notice the total reflection projection back at the republics?
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Yes please do post some credible links, Im tiring of your 3rd grade semantic diatribes
August 29th, 2007 at 2:28 pm“Col Ripper, I have seen this guy daveinboca post drivel on Kevin Drums blog as well. Certainly not a holder of a high IQ.
Comment by Primus Inter Arse — August 29, 2007 @ 2:17 pm”
I’m probably higher than you and ripturd put together. It’s like shooting fat stupid fish in a tiny bowl, you nitwits are so clueless.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:29 pmMost of Saddam Husseins “mass grave filling” occurred on Ronald Reagan’s and George H.W. Bush’s watch.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 2:30 pmbut we all know that Liberals would love it if Hussein was in power still filling up his mass graves with the tortured body of Iraqi men, women and children. -WHy
Must be why Rumsfeld shook his hand while looking the other way at the aqaba pipeline. Besides what do you care about ‘chocolate’ people? You dont care about ‘chocolate city in America? Can you say Hypocrite?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:31 pmI’m probably higher than you and ripturd put together. It’s like shooting fat stupid fish in a tiny bowl, you nitwits are so clueless.
Comment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
and you really showed ‘em there, cowboy.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:31 pmit’s an entertaining art form, for sure.
WHY, why are you such an idiot. There are lots of people who live in misery at the hands of brutal and not so brutal dictators. Hell, ever some people in
The Iraq War was sold as needed to avoid WMD falling on this great nation, imminently. This was and remains hogwash. It was really about Iran and the need for American oil companies to secure oil leases to Iraqi oil fields that Saddam had already pledged to the Russian, German and French oil companies (and we wonder why those nations weren’t down with the invasion)
It wasn’t about freeing the poor little Iraqis. You don’t care about them and neither does your administration. It wasn’t about mass graves, many of which we, the United States of America, helped fill. You must remember, Saddam was our bitch before we kicked him out of bed.
Throwing out labels looks nice on paper, but gets us nowhere. That’s where you’d like to be, so be it. But, if that’s the case, lurk and chuckle with your wife or dog and leave the rest of us alone.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:32 pmI’m probably higher than you and ripturd put together. It’s like shooting fat stupid fish in a tiny bowl, you nitwits are so clueless.
Comment by daveinboca
Yes, that elementary schoolyard projectionist [and unimaginative] rant certainly proved your high IQ.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:32 pmyes, of course is Bush’s fault, he gave the terrorist all the weapons, money, means, etc to go kill Iraqis.
comment by mr. p
Actually he did, we have given billions in aid to Saudi Arabia which is now in Irag, (And ronnie raygunz gave them even more in the Iran-Contra circle jerk) and left 190,000 weapons with a big bow wrapped around it and $12billion in US currency on pallets on the front porch which caused quite a shopping spree with the US arms dealers. So yes, you are correct, mr. p, very astute of you to finally agree with us for once. I applaud you. You might be salvageable yet.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:32 pmCall it what it is:
ethnic cleansing.
.
Comment by Grand Moff Texan — August 29, 2007 @ 12:50 pm
Yeah, darn that racist hurricane! ;)
August 29th, 2007 at 2:36 pm“The Iraq War was sold as needed to avoid WMD falling on this great nation, imminently. This was and remains hogwash. It was really about Iran and the need for American oil companies to secure oil leases to Iraqi oil fields that Saddam had already pledged to the Russian, German and French oil companies (and we wonder why those nations weren’t down with the invasion)”
August 29th, 2007 at 2:38 pmActually, France wasn’t by our side because Saddam’s half-brother was UN Amb in Geneva and sending diplomatic pouches full of Napoleons d’Or to Chiraq on a monthly basis. Something you’d have heard of if you knew anything. Schroeder was kissing Russian butt, if you hadn’t heard. And Putin didn’t like Primakoff getting edged out of the money train Saddam was throwing toward Moscow.
Comment by daveinboca
See Colonel, daveinboca is a quantum physicist and part time brain surgeon, hes just using first grade debate tactics to fool us.
He also practices trepanation. Heres a link to prove how genius dave is.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:40 pmhttp://www.bmezine.com/news/people/A10101/trepan/
Look, daveinboca, I understand – from your post – that you you like
to get higher than a ripturd, put stupid fish in a tiny bowl and then shoot them.
but, i think there are forums out there that will better suit your needs.
try this link.
http://www.shootingstupidfishintinybowlswhilebeinghigherthanaripturd.org
August 29th, 2007 at 2:41 pmAs with anything, daveinboca (not N.O., but I’m an expert on LA politics), there are multiple reasons for any given event. That those outside the USofA were getting kickbacks (yes, there were Americans with their hand out long after Rumsfeld’s picture) doesn’t change the fact that WMD was merely the wrapping on the package having little or nothing to do with what was inside. All that information being sifted into mush. I feel for you man and hope your house is built up high, is fully insured (and worded just right) and you have the means to escape the flatness that is FL. You’ll probably need it all soon enough and there won’t be much $$$ in the back after Bushie gets his $$$$$$$ for Iraq. Great investment, no?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:43 pm“Yes, that elementary schoolyard projectionist [and unimaginative] rant certainly proved your high IQ.
Comment by Primus Inter Arse — August 29, 2007 @ 2:32 pm”
Probably transference made me get recessive for a coupla minutes, but you and RetCol appear to live in a stew of regression toward the mean.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:44 pmpo, I’d rather live here in Boca than that Slough of Despond in a bowl of bad air. Good luck avoiding MS-13 drive-bys.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:46 pmSorry dude, I live in Hotlanta these days having grown up on the MS Gulf Coast and gone to college in NO. We have our own drivebys here, though. Still have family in Biloxi and many friends in NO, one who even works rather high up in the Corps of Engineers, NO office.
Got no problems with Boca, just saying, what gets done to the goose, usually gets done to the gander in the end. Just because FL is GOP-heaven at the moment, doesn’t mean it will always be. Nor does it mean that when the time comes and the next category 5 hurricane comes marching down your street that the compassionate conservative GOP machine will be able to bring home the bacon and get their boys reelected. W’s done screwed the pooch. Perhaps that was the idea all along. But, incompetence and half-baked ideology have consequences and repercussions. You won’t like it when Hillary uses W’s new found powers. Neither will I. But, only one of us will have been letting him get away with what he’s done so as to allow the next ones to do even worse. A liberal, I guess. But at least I’ve thought about the future. You?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:53 pm“Actually he did, we have given billions in aid to Saudi Arabia which is now in Irag, (And ronnie raygunz gave them even more in the Iran-Contra circle jerk) and left 190,000 weapons with a big bow wrapped around it and $12billion in US currency on pallets on the front porch which caused quite a shopping spree with the US arms dealers. So yes, you are correct, mr. p, very astute of you to finally agree with us for once. I applaud you. You might be salvageable yet.
Comment by upside00 — August 29, 2007 @ 2:32 pm”
Actually, the Saudis paid $52 billion cash for our help in the ‘90-91 Gulf War and has paid premium prices for our weaponry ever since day one of our Pol/Mil relationship. I was Pol/Mil Officer in the US Embassy in Saudi and know whereof I speak. Also, Judy Woodruff interviewed me during the Gulf War as I was reporting from Riyadh & Charlene Hunter-Gault hooked up with me. As did Joe Galloway, who is on my bloglist. [Hint: he wrote a book about the Gulf War---you can google it].
I love going to “Think Progress” as there is no [liberal] thought applied worthy of the name. And if “Progress” means hankering to surrender, then y’all are aptly half-misnamed.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:54 pmI’m probably higher than you and ripturd put together. It’s like shooting fat stupid fish in a tiny bowl, you nitwits are so clueless.
Comment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
You’re probably higher than Rush. Why else would such shit dribble from your turd-hole?
August 29th, 2007 at 2:56 pmI would guess the victims of Katrina would do just about anything in order to have their homes, friends and family, jobs, and dignity back rather than to have been hoping for “victim status”. Yes, even those who live in extreme poverty value their family, their traditions, and their dignity.
They didn’t have much, and now they have nothing at all. They didn’t just lose their homes. They lost their dignity. They lost their possessions. They lost their past and their future. They are separated from the friends and their family members. They have lost their jobs, and if they are uneducated, jobs will be extremely difficult to come by, especially as so many small local businesses were wiped out as well.
What are they supposed to do now? I don’t know if I would have the strength of character to survive all of that and still get up each day to face what comes, trying to find a way to survive, and yet two years later, they still do. They still hope. They definitely still wait.
They weren’t trying to become victims, they ARE victims, being a victim was the result of this disaster and then the lack of following through by our government in the efforts to help the ones who needed it most. These people didn’t have the resources to just ‘buck up’ and move on. If they had, they would have left before the storm hit. They don’t have the resources now to just move somewhere else and get another job. Have you ever tried that? Just go somewhere else and find a place to live and a new job – when you have NOTHING? Nothing, as in no money, no investments, no car, no house, no job, no friends, no family, no education.. You either have to have a lot of money in the bank already, or you have to have a job waiting for you and a place to stay with friends or family until you find your own place and employment. Its not that easy.
My father has lived in New Orleans most of his life. My husband volunteered his medical services for three weeks earlier this year. He helped and spoke with many people. He had a lot of people trying to make the best of a horrendous situation crying on his shoulder. He was absolutely stunned by the resolve and strength of will of most people under the most difficult of conditions, people who had lost EVERYTHING. He still gets very emotional when he talks about it.
This is a tragedy of epic proportions that continues still and is an unbelievable shame and failure of government. We can throw a trillion dollars at a war that we should never have entered (that was entered on false premises), yet in this great country we are letting a historical city with great culteral traditions just die. It has been TWO YEARS and for so much of the area of New Orleans, nothing looks any different. That is shameful.
There is plenty that can be done that is not just a handout.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:56 pmOf course he went to a charter school.
Nobody there’s good enough at math to challenge his claims.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:56 pmAlso, Judy Woodruff interviewed me during the Gulf War as I was reporting from Riyadh & Charlene Hunter-Gault hooked up with me. As did Joe Galloway, who is on my bloglist. [Hint: he wrote a book about the Gulf War—you can google it].
so you got to spill your retarded repig lies on CNN? That’s a good poodle, now get off the furniture. We’ll wait patiently for proof and links.
As if.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:00 pm“You’re probably higher than Rush. Why else would such shit dribble from your turd-hole?
Comment by ronjazz — August 29, 2007 @ 2:56 pm”
So articulate, charming & well-read, must be a liberal—says smiling Pat Schroeder through her tears.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:01 pmWould you guys please stop responding to why and bob’s talking points. It should be obvious to you by now that neither of them have the intelligence to apply critical thinking skills to subjects. All they are capable of doing is to sphew talking points and straw men arguments. Don’t bother trying to correct them. They know they are wrong and we know they are wrong, so just ignore them!
I get sucked into it on occasion, but I realize that responding to them is nothing but wasted time and wasted words.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:04 pmronjazz—-your ignorance is overwhelming.
“so you got to spill your retarded repig lies on CNN?”
Actually, Judy and Charlene worked for PBS at the time, on MacNeil-Lehrer.
“We’ll wait patiently for proof and links.
As if.
Comment by ronjazz — August 29, 2007 @ 3:00 pm”
Links back in ‘90-91? Got Nexis-Lexis? Your general knowledge is matched only by your charm===zero in both departments.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:05 pmComment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
And WTF was that post all about? You never replied to anything in my post; about the Saudis being a major source of men and money to the insurgency, that raygunz and his little band of ollie north’s played hide the wienie with millions of bait-and-switch arms deals with Iran, that we “lost” billions of US dollars and 190,000 weapons, which is impacting the ongoing occupation fight in Iraq??
Guess you weren’t quite up to it huh? Returning all of those reporters’ calls for your “insight” on the world events.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:06 pm#163 “What are they supposed to do now? “
What they are supposed to do now is to give up and sell their land at fire-sale prices to rich developers who will put up fancy condominiums that only the “right” kind of people can afford. That’s been Bush’s plan all along.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pmIt’s like shooting fat stupid fish in a tiny bowl, you nitwits are so clueless.
Comment by daveinboca
It’s a lot tidier if you pour the bowl into the sink, and simply pop the fish in your mouth.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:08 pmTypical neo-con, got to shoot your gun off…
Would you guys please stop responding to why and bob’s talking points. comment by bilbo
Yea, we all know who he is. Sorry! Sometimes it is sooo difficult to NOT respond.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:08 pm#
Would you guys please stop responding to why and bob’s talking points. It should be obvious to you by now that neither of them have the intelligence to apply critical thinking skills to subjects. All they are capable of doing is to sphew talking points and straw men arguments. Don’t bother trying to correct them. They know they are wrong and we know they are wrong, so just ignore them!
I get sucked into it on occasion, but I realize that responding to them is nothing but wasted time and wasted words.
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 29, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
Who’s “bob?” And when I’m dealing with y’all, I may not always be right, but I KNOW you’re almost ALWAYS WRONG!!!
bilbo: what is “sphew” and “straw men arguments?”
Illiterate ignorant knuckle-walkers who probably mean well, but have s*** for brains and in ronjazz’s case, doesn’t know squat about anything.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:10 pmupside00
You’re beyond hope, full of received opinions and fixed ideas, unlike others with only opinions and no ideas. Like bilbo & ronjazz. And others I don’t have time to enumerate.
You are sillier and dumber as you go on…..y’all are illiterate. Just cite your own sources, which are basically make-believe.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:13 pmBush proclaimed, “I come telling the folks in this part of the world we still understand the problems.â€
Um…he does understand that N.O. is in the US right? I mean saying “in this part of the world” sounds like he is making this speech in Africa or something.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:16 pmComment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
still no response? Why am I not surprised?
August 29th, 2007 at 3:18 pmIt’s like shooting fat stupid fish in a tiny bowl, you nitwits are so clueless.Comment by daveinboca
Sorry, but you’ve confused this site with a Republican Chicken Dinner!
August 29th, 2007 at 3:23 pmupside00
In your illiteracy, you didn’t understand my response, which was cite your sourses, which are non-existent. So stop being stupid, which is what you are stuck on.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:28 pmsources
August 29th, 2007 at 3:42 pmIt was really about Iran and the need for American oil companies to secure oil leases to Iraqi oil fields that Saddam had already pledged to the Russian, German and French oil companies
Dont forget Chinas oil deals, dave. But really Russia has plenty of Gas and Oil. Alot of Americas oil come from Mexico and Canada. Why since the antarctic is melting, the battle is on for oil there.
but you and RetCol appear to live in a stew of regression toward the mean.Comment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Yes, you love to project your imagination onto others then believe that its true. Not very genius is that?
August 29th, 2007 at 3:46 pmwow, a schoolmarm & a shrink.
Gotta hit the gym, it’s getting pretty rank when it descends to that level.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:52 pmyour sourses -daveinboca
Ahhemm. Sourses? Dave you should stop calling people stupid if your going to spell like that. And just what is all that crap about Schroeder about?
I know that economic security is natoinal security, in todays world, and I know that the Chinese are exploring for oil in the Kurdish region. You haven’t brought any new information to the table.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:55 pmIn your illiteracy [Projection], you didn’t understand my response [Projection], which was cite your sourses , which are non-existent. So stop being stupid [Projection], which is what you are stuck on [Projection]. Comment by daveinboca
Ya know dave you could spend a lot less time typing if you would leave your fantasies out of your posts.
August 29th, 2007 at 3:58 pmIn your illiteracy, you didn’t understand my response, which was cite your sourses, which are non-existent. So stop being stupid, which is what you are stuck on.
Comment by daveinboca — August 29, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
WOW!! This is too easy. Here are just a few links and articles. And you have yet to produce ANY. So guess we might have to turn the S word around, and see you get unstuck.
“On November 25, 1986, the biggest political and constitutional scandal since Watergate exploded in Washington when President Ronald Reagan told a packed White House news conference that funds derived from covert arms deals with the Islamic Republic of Iran had been diverted to buy weapons for the U.S.-backed Contra rebels in Nicaragua.â€
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB210/index.htm
Published: 07 August 2007
“Some 190,000 assault rifles and pistols supplied by the US to Iraqi security forces in 2004 and 2005 have gone missing, according to a report issued here yesterday, and may have fallen into the possession of insurgents.
The embarrassing disclosure, by the watchdog Government Accountability office (GAO), means that the Pentagon does not know what happened to roughly a third of the arms it has provided to train and equip Iraqi forces – an effort whose success is crucial to restoring some semblance of order in the country.
The “lost” arms include 80,000 pistols as well as an estimated 110,000 of the Soviet-made AK-47 assault rifles, many of them originating in eastern Europe, especially the former Yugoslavia. A recent Amnesty International report claims that, in 2004 and 2005, more than 350,000 AK-47s and similar weapons were removed from Bosnia and Serbia by private contractors working for the Pentagon and sent to Iraq, with the approval of local Nato and European commanders.
In addition, some 135,000 pieces of body armour and 115,000 helmets have also vanished, again perhaps to end up in the hands of insurgents. So far, the US has spent more than $19bn (£9.3bn) on developing Iraqi security forces, including almost $3bn on weapons.
According to the GAO, the distribution of the weaponry was “haphazard and rushed,” and failed to follow established procedures – accusations the Pentagon does not dispute.
But the affair could be even more problematic for the White House, given that, during the two years under scrutiny, the programme was headed by General David Petraeus, now the top US commander in Iraq, in charge of the current troop “surge”. President George Bush now lauds his talents on an almost daily basis, as the man who will finally give the US the upper hand against the insurgents.â€
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2841342.ece
Audit: U.S. lost track of $9 billion in Iraq funds
Monday, January 31, 2005 Posted: 0412 GMT (1212 HKT)
“WASHINGTON (CNN) — Nearly $9 billion of money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to a watchdog report published Sunday.
An inspector general’s report said the U.S.-led administration that ran Iraq until June 2004 is unable to account for the funds.
“Severe inefficiencies and poor management” by the Coalition Provisional Authority has left auditors with no guarantee the money was properly used,” the report said.
“The CPA did not establish or implement sufficient managerial, financial and contractual controls to ensure that [Development Fund for Iraq] funds were used in a transparent manner,” said Stuart W. Bowen Jr., director of the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction.â€
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/
Got a lot more, Wanna see them??
August 29th, 2007 at 4:06 pmComment by Primus Inter Arse, RingoDingo, Raven,
Is davie boy for real? Haven’t seen him before. What other names does he/she post under?
Must have been on the A/V club in high school …… knows a lot about “projection”.
August 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pmthat, or he just majored in vomiting 101. skool and all that thinkin’ probably made it hard for him.
August 29th, 2007 at 4:15 pmComment by po — August 29, 2007 @ 4:15 pm
That too! Overdosing on Cheetos and Mountain Dew in the A/V store room can do that to you.
August 29th, 2007 at 4:19 pmHonestly, I hate these people so much I can hardly stand it.
I’d bet my life that the people of NOLA would MUCH RATHER have had the MONEY it cost to fly Chimpy & Co. down there for another useless photo op than Chimpy his ownself.
And then another $50 BILLION for Bush’s bloody and useless war…?
God help us. That is so wrong. AMERICANS are suffering – right here in AMERICA.
IMPEACH!!
August 29th, 2007 at 4:33 pmAs long as Trent Lott’s home was rebuilt so that they could still have their sing-alongs and cook-outs all is fine.
Idiots
August 29th, 2007 at 5:17 pmJust heard on MSNBC’s Chris Matthews show that students at the New Orleans school that Dubya visited today were “muzzled” in order to restrict negative comments.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:17 pmHow unusual, how contemptible!!!
Wonder what the rest of the MSM will report on the so-called evening news tonight???
No wonder his approval ratings are so high. If the media was halfway honest, the real approval would be around 10%, give or take a few “dead” folks who participated in the polls.
“Ya’ll clean up now, hea?” Our great leader.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:36 pmMy contribution to the 2nd anniversary Katrina “blogswarm” for anyone’s bemusement. It’s interesting to note, as I did, that out of all the abuse being heaped on Bush, Gonzo and Rove by right wingers like Viguerie, no one seems to have a problem with how Bush handled Katrina.
I’m just surprised that not many major blogs have written about this. At least this place and C&L has.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:43 pmPoor Dave in Boca. He can dish it out, but he just can’t take it. He seems to think this is impressive: “I was Pol/Mil Officer in the US Embassy in Saudi and know whereof I speak.”
If that is true (which I doubt), it only verifies the depth of the stupidity of our relationship with the Saudis. Dave, your enabling of the Saudis was part of the reason 3000 people were killed on 9-11 in New York. 15 of the 19 killers were your Saudi friends. You are simply simpering apologist for the worst terrorists our country has ever faced. And, you’re a symbol of the complete failure of our current foreign policy. Dave, Osama bin Laden’s very first and most important demand was that we get our military bases out of Saudi Arabia. Your cult leader gave him what he wanted. bin Laden’s second demand was that the “secular dicator” of Iraq be removed from power. Your cult leader, again, gave him what he wanted.
Dave, you’re so full of yourself that you seem to think you’ve got something to teach people around here. All you do is reaffirm to us that Bush cultists are the most idiotic, absurd, excuses for Americans we have today.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:03 pmOh, and Dave in Boca: “y’all” is not a word, you illiterate piece of crap!
August 29th, 2007 at 8:05 pmI love going to the arcade and playing whack-a-mole with airhead morons. If the craven cowardly colonel knew anything, he’s know that 12 of the 15 “Saudis” were Yemenis carrying Saudi passports.
And “y’all” is a word, you gutless p.o.s.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:17 pmAnd don’t forget the hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and material assistance from foreign donors that the Bush administration turned down.
Why’d the most corrupt administration do this?
Because any foreign assistance would have cut into their Republican crony pal’s profit margin.
Any money or materials given freely to Gulf Coast residents devastated by Hurricane Katrina would have meant less U.S. taxpayer money that the Bush administration could dole out to their corporate Republican pals.
Profit. Profit. Profit. This is the only word in the Repubican vocabulary. Even as they seek to profit at the expense of all other U.S. citizens.
This is also why Iraq looks like it does today.
To Republicans, it’s all about profit, profit, profit, which is why the CPA under Paul Bremer was created in Iraq, to make certain that Republicans, and only Republicans, would profit, profit, profit, from Bush’s and Cheney’s illegal invasion of an oil-rich sovereign nation in the Middle East.
Can any single damn Repubican be trusted anymore? Their greed has trumped our national security. Their lust for power has hurt our nation’s fiscal health. Their hatred of all social programs has endangered our nation’s children and grandchildren…as well as our nation’s senior citizens.
Hurricane Katrina and Iraq are just symptoms of the overall corruption that has consumed the Republican Party of today, with profit, profit, profit, being the only thing that matters to them…and to hell with all the rest of us.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:15 pmyou know, rebuilding New Orleans is like rebuilding a city next to a volcano, its gonna eventually be taken down again. The only thing that should be there is the oil and gas lines for our country and not a residential city. Its also now on the list for terrorists who want to cause a lot of destruction. stupid to rebuild it
August 30th, 2007 at 12:04 amIf we didn’t have the ability to overcome these forces of nature, I would agree cindy, but, living below sealevel is NOT an “another worldly” occurrence. Look at Amsterdam,. And with Global Warming, many more cities now at sea level, London, NYC, LA, etc. will be the next New Orleans. We should USE N.O. as a proving ground for Global Warming technologies.
August 30th, 2007 at 12:18 amI don’t think Bush addressed the matter at hand, that New Orleans needs the funds to rebuild, and that people there are suffering everyday, yet those funds are trickling down so slowly that everyone is giving up hope and moving away. And it’s true that the hurricane did not break the spirits of the citizens, but the lack of support and help is though.
He makes an almost assy statement on how New Orleans is slowly rebuilding, slowly but surely?. It just seems that he does not understand the duress that the people in the disastrous area is going through. That they have to live there everyday, and not just go there on occasion.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:36 amWhat a scum bag. wake me up when he’s been impeached.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:19 amThe saddest part of Katrina are the people who lost their lives and the suffering endured by so many others. (Some tremendous bravery was exhibited – the young man who “hijacked” one of Mayor Nagin’s school buses, loaded it with people and drove all the way to Houston – what a great kid!) That said….maybe New Orleans, always with an astronomical homicide rate, public officials and law enforcement so corrupt (and vile) for centuries, can move forward.
New Orleans….hot, humid, full of mold and mildew, insects everywhere….but the food was great……
August 31st, 2007 at 12:42 amWill C – Your “selective memory” is incorrect – 60% of New Orleans residents have returned and the federal government has sent $143 Billion to date……You’re entitled to your own feelings….but not your own facts.
August 31st, 2007 at 12:45 amGeorge Bush has the blood of every person who died on his hands and the best he can come up with is that he is happy that another restaurant catering to rich white people is reopening. Excuse me while I go puke. I am ashamed to be an American.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:41 pmI went to New Orleans with UMass Boston with 49 other students by bus. The children had no books for school! January 2007, 2 years later. There was an estimated 80,000 homes that still needed to be gutted. Our group gutted 12 houses valued at $6,000 each.
People have been displaced and are still displaced because FEMA has not done their intended job. I met a lot of nice people and pray that they keep the little hope they left on their future.
September 7th, 2007 at 6:13 pm