Bush seeks to be portrayed as antagonist-in-chief.
By on Aug 29th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Bush seeks to be portrayed as antagonist-in-chief.
U.S. News reports, “White House insiders don’t want to encourage expectations that President Bush will turn into a born-again accommodator in the final year and a half of his administration.” The insiders express “concern” that there is an expectation that Bush will be more “conciliatory.”
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He’ll be lucky to be portrayed as human
August 29th, 2007 at 5:29 pmThe insiders express “concern†that there is an expectation that Bush will be more “conciliatory.â€
Ha ha ha, yeah, there’s a lot of risk of that happening.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:30 pmPerish the thought!
August 29th, 2007 at 5:34 pmconfontationalist.
hmmmm.
confRontationalist?
August 29th, 2007 at 5:35 pmfor sure in any case he’ll be viewed as a dumb ass
August 29th, 2007 at 5:35 pmahhhh-good catch,eh?
August 29th, 2007 at 5:35 pmand he wasn’t already?
August 29th, 2007 at 5:36 pmMy entrenched rigid dichotomous thinking and dry drunk personality traits will not change. I will never change. You cannot make me change..NO I WILL NOT CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!
I CANNOT HEAR YOU……….LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALAAA
August 29th, 2007 at 5:36 pmheehee
how about we call him what he is?
“Bush seeks to be portrayed as real D*CK.”
August 29th, 2007 at 5:36 pmDon’t worry about it Bush.
Your image as a fu(king idiot is safe and secure.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:36 pmA year and 4 months – not one more day!
August 29th, 2007 at 5:36 pmI’d rather have Bush portrayed as a “confrontationalist” (lib media-coined term, obviously) than an “accommodator” because the brand “accommodator” is the one of the two that really carries stigma with it. “Confrontationalist” is even a brand that’s too harsh on Bush, plotting to make him look like a preemptive attack-using, unilateral aggressor. However, when the lib media uses brands like confrontationalist, that only means that Bush puts the interests of the US above the world community (laudable), uses preemptive attack against well-established threats (laudable also), and honorably sticks to his principles (again, laudable). The brand accommodator has more unflattering baggage attached to it because it regresses to images of BJ Clinton, the ultimate accommodator. From Clinton, we see that accommodation equals being too scared to retaliate against terrorism throughout the 90s (helping to bring about 911), signing on to Kyoto at the risk of millions of US jobs, and basing his policies on polling because of insecurity.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pmconfontationalist – Confrontationalist
Republican – Rape-Public-Can
August 29th, 2007 at 5:37 pmI can see his next press conference when he’s asked about this
“yeah, well, Ahhm the, the, the, confrontationalister, see? That means I confrontate. heheheheheheheh.”
August 29th, 2007 at 5:38 pmLibpansiesarescaredofconfrontation
yet you are so scared of us “libtards” that you can’t even settle on one screen name.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:39 pmLibsareconfrontational – Hilarious post. Urine sample please.
When you bloviate about the ‘liberal media’ you are referring to the top ten media conglomerate billionaire republicans? Yeah those armpit braiding birkenstock wearing hippies own all the media
http://www.thenation.com/special/bigten.html
August 29th, 2007 at 5:40 pmDaddy Bush came in to late to save his idiot drunken coward baby son George. Yes Daddy told baby Bush to fire Rove and Gonzales and Daddy will appoint the new AG. But it’s to late for anyone to see the idiot George for anything but what he is an idiot. Even today baby Bush talks about the Katrina victims like he has helped them. 1.5 Billion dollars for victims went to Republican contractors nothing to the people.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:41 pmOne Trillion taxpayers dollars went to Iraq as the Iraq people continue to ask the US to leave their country. You do the math.
Just watch, the way the dems are acting in congress it may go that we have a transition from a Moron in Chief to a Mormon in Chief.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:43 pmRemember, it’s all about the chimp.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:44 pm“White House insiders don’t want to encourage expectations”
Has the WH ever encouraged expectations regarding anything?
August 29th, 2007 at 5:46 pmDear chickenhawkrepublicanretardwhoistoomuchofamamasboytojointhearmybutiswillingtohideinmommy’sbasementandmasterbatetoonlinepicsofanncoutler
I wasn’t going to respond, but you are such a chickenshitliar that I had to jump on the following line of bs that cowards like you spew
“From Clinton, we see that accommodation equals being too scared to retaliate against terrorism throughout the 90s (helping to bring about 911), signing on to Kyoto at the risk of millions of US jobs, and basing his policies on polling because of insecurity”.
Clinton did respond to terrorism he caught the folks who bombed the World Trade center when he was pres. How’s that going for your guy?
He attacked Bin Laden when the embassies were bombed in Africa, despite all the chicken hawk crowing from you conservopussies who didn’t want that to happen and did your best to impede a sitting president from defending the homeland, you traitor.
Just how many jobs has bush saved by not signing Kyoto? How many have gone to china since 2000? How crappy is the economy now compared to Clinton’s last year? How about the deficit? How about you go back to your little hole and the adults fix the mess you republicans have created, again.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:47 pmantagonist-in-chief?
How about mad-hatter-in-chief.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:49 pmBush seeks to be portrayed as antagonist-in-chief?
:|
I think that horse has already left the barn.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:50 pm“We don’t do nuance in Texas” is what Bush was quoted as saying several years ago. And in fact he has utterly failed to exercise any amount of diplomacy or statesmanship and that is why he has nothing to show for his six and a half miserable years as President. All Bush has done is posture like a Neanderthal cowboy, strutting bow-legged and showing off his hard-on like he wants to f*#% everyone in America. The man is and forever will be the biggest embarrassment to the United States.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:50 pmThe man is and forever will be the biggest embarrassment to the United States.
Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — August 29, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
I think the Movie Ishtar will beat him out for biggest embarassment, but Bush will be a close second.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:57 pmThere’s a real psychological profile just aching to be written on our dear leader. He makes Kim Jung Il look like a cogent genius.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:57 pmrecalled Scarborough. “But the bottom line is, with the Republicans that I spoke to after the Mark Foley scandal broke, they looked at each other and said, ‘Well, that’s it, we’re going to have a Democratic Senate and we’re going to have a Democratic House.’”
Oh, I think he will be more conciliatory, I mean, after all the blame game stuff, how could he possibly be MORE atagonistic and partisan than beat up by a catholic girl Rove?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:05 pmWay to go George! I like your style. You have already cemented the “worst president in history” title and now want to put the record out of reach for all future contenders.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:05 pmI think the Movie Ishtar will beat him out for biggest embarassment, but Bush will be a close second.
Comment by Krazny — August 29, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
I must disagree. Ishtar may have been deadly boring, BUT, GW BOTCH was phucking, completely, DEADLY to MANY PEOPLE MORE DESERVING OF LIFE THAN HIM!!!!
August 29th, 2007 at 6:05 pm…
[that] Bush will turn into a born-again accommodator…
that was the LAST thing on MY mind about the little puppet…
who ever would have thought THAT?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:06 pm…
But didn’t he say he was a uniter not a divider?
Was that a fib?
Waht kind of President would antagonise his own people?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:08 pmThis is just flat out rich.
Don’t expect that just because only 28 or 29% of the people think we’re on the right track that we’d be accomodating, he’s got some political capital to use up.
How far does 2 cents worth of political capital go?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:10 pmWhy is it news that Bush will continue with all the same negatives?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:10 pmWaht kind of President would antagonise his own people?
Comment by Joe ScarredBurro — August 29, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
The kind who knows his days are numbered and nobody would give a rats ass about him anway.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:10 pmOh, I don’t see an accommodator-in-chief. It’s not his style. Look how he almost publicly laughed at Baker and the Iraq Study Group. That was his opportunity to look for common ground and compromise. He’s not a statesman; he’s a petulant little boy still looking for daddy’s approval.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:12 pmAnybody else see the pattern in the ridiculous posts by
wowmynameisreallylongandissupposedtomakeusmad?
Sixteen lines, one paragraph, four accusations and a bad metaphor.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:13 pmDid this guy write speeches for Rove in the WH basement?
Bush == Once and A**hole, always an A**hole. That boy has no heart nor soul.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:13 pm#31 The President that would use terror on his own people, use fear, and tell reporters ‘they want to kill your children’
Terrorism, after all, is the ultimate misuse of fear for political ends.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:15 pmIndeed, its specific goal is to distort the political reality of a nation by creating fear in the general population that is hugely disproportionate to the actual danger the terrorists are capable of posing. — Al Gore
Anybody else see the pattern in the ridiculous posts by
wowmynameisreallylongandissupposedtomakeusmad?
Yeh, what Republican would be so foolish to make his party look so bad on a regular basis?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:17 pmWhy is it news that Bush will continue with all the same negatives?
Comment by missmolly — August 29, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
I think the news is his continued arrogance in the face of overwhelming disapproval.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:19 pm…
it sounds like a good day to listen in to rachel maddow…
remembering katrina/neworleans…
listen live here: http://www.airamerica.com/
August 29th, 2007 at 6:21 pm.
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Dow Jones Industrial Average 13,289.29 up
Sorry no bad news TPers
Economy humming along….. :)
Go shopping TPers enjoy
August 29th, 2007 at 6:22 pmWho would be so naive? Pelosi maybe, or Reid. Personally I would not have guessed any such thing. Without intensive psychological therapy I would expect him to remain just as delusional as he has been all along.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:23 pmComment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Way to stay on topic, “Bob”. I think you dropped an “o” from your name and it rolled under the couch.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:25 pmYeah, this whole “sticking to your principles” gig has served the Country really well over the last 6+ years.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:25 pmHe will be portrayed as the chief thug of a crime family and the biggest moron to ever darken the doors of the White House…and a failure.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:26 pma confontationalist is someone who discourages people from using too many type faces.
It’s a technical term.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:26 pmDow Jones Industrial Average 13,289.29 up
Sorry no bad news TPers
Economy humming along….. :)
Go shopping TPers enjoy
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
what happened to 14,000, Boob? Only you could call being down 700 points being up. You guys will lie to yourselves with the same lack of shame that you lie to the American people. Very sick.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:28 pmDow Jones Industrial Average 13,289.29 up
Sorry no bad news TPers
Economy humming along….. :)
Go shopping TPers enjoy
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Which means that adjusted for inflation it’s 1000 points below where it was when Bush took office. Yeah, humming along! If you’re an african nation in the middle of a civil war!
Republicans, bad for the economy, bad for the country!
August 29th, 2007 at 6:31 pmWhy is Think Communist not saying a word about Norman Hsu’s very suspicious donations to Hillary Clinton?
very good question
August 29th, 2007 at 6:34 pmcommrade you will now be silenced bye bye
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Yeh it only took an injection of 250 billion in FED welfare to bail them out, so FAR.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:35 pmShopping. The GOP answer to everything.
Support the war. Go shopping!
August 29th, 2007 at 6:36 pmWhy is Think Communist not saying a word about Norman Hsu’s very suspicious donations to Hillary Clinton?
What about Roves very suspicious taxpayer fund guided to the GOP?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:36 pmWhich means that adjusted for inflation it’s 1000 points below where it was when Bush took office.
BOB doesn’t realize theres some 2 trillion in worthless paper, turds ina briefcase, floating around the sub-prime mess. He also fails to consider how many people lost jobs because of that.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:39 pmNever answer a question with a question
August 29th, 2007 at 6:40 pm“Polls don’t matter”, but Bush doesn’t want to look bad. There’s an important conflict here that reveals something deeper.
As long as Bush looks non-conciliatory, the congress will be unable to even appeal to him for change, believing in his concocted image. I believe this shows, in a little way, that the administration still has some respect for congressional constitutional authority, though it is quite obvious that it has been child’s play to manipulate that authority so far.
The canary in the coal mine died a long time ago, but I find comfort with a flashlight.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:40 pm“Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.” This movie line has always seemed apt to me in describing what Bush’s truest nature is. I don’t believe insiders need to worry that such an innately uncongenial individual with might suddenly develope the need to be conciliatory to his destractors.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:43 pmBob is having trouble staying focused. Which is understandable when the topic is W. Even his supporters can’t think of any new ways to defend him anymore.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pmNever answer a question with a question
Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Isn’t that what your psychologists do?
August 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pmBush conciliatory? What in his record would provoke people to think that? I guess he’s saying he’s just got to be a hard-ass for another 18 months and then he can relax his sphincter. Douchebags, every last one of them.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:46 pm*
the whole site is great… but this page is essential:
http://www.katrinaaction.org/facts
click on companies
August 29th, 2007 at 6:47 pm…
Bush’s only defense is: “He’s still the President”
August 29th, 2007 at 6:54 pmHe should lean to scowl like Cheney does and tell people to f_ck off if he wants to be seen as antagonizing, smirks just don’t do it.
August 29th, 2007 at 6:57 pmThis is just more PR to sell the coming war with Iran. After he starts WWIII he and the rest of his closeted homosexuals on his staff can sail off in the radioactive sunset to Jupiter Island.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:02 pmThe funny part is the Whitehouse spin. “He wants to accomplish funding the war”….
Way to set your sights high there Chimpy.
So we can expect another year and half of The Douche-bag in Chief.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pmI’m sure Daddy Bush told this hopeless Prez remember your legacy. Then Bush got back to DC and there was Rasputin Cheney telling Bush to talk about attacking Iran. Bush only listens to the last one that speaks to him. By the way, for those who believe that Clinton did nothing about Terrorism. In addition to catching the bombers in the first World Trade Center attack, during the Mellinium Clinton caught 3 sets of terrorists who planned to attack us on New Years 2000. He did that without scaring the public. Imagine that! Competence rules unless once again we are utter fools. Go Hillary.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pmWe now that for the Restroom Republicans, polls may not matter, but poles do.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 7:04 pmIf we survive the next year and a half.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:04 pmGo Hilary???
Are you referring to the same Hilary who now talks to veterans about getting prepared for the next war.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:06 pm“The insiders express “concern†that there is an expectation that Bush will be more “conciliatory.”
So being conciliatory is a bad thing now? And it’s not like it is going to happen now. He has never been that way and I doubt he ever will be that way. Bush’s world is It’s My Way or the Highway, Black and White. That isn’t going to change just because he is the worst President ever.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:07 pmThe insiders express “concern†that there is an expectation that Bush will be more “conciliatory.â€
Another lie by Bush.
He came in to office claiming to be a uniter and now as he limps to the finish line his lackeys are saying that Bush wants to retain the right to be a divisive politician.
Another Bush lie.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 7:10 pmHe came in to office claiming to be a uniter
He was referring to his relations with other closet homosexuals
August 29th, 2007 at 7:12 pm“There’s a real psychological profile just aching to be written on our dear leader.”
This has already been done. It’s a book called Bush on the Couch by Justin A. Frank, and it is a very scary book. Pretty much everything he says about Bush is really apparent.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:12 pm“Anybody else see the pattern in the ridiculous posts by
wowmynameisreallylongandissupposedtomakeusmad?
Sixteen lines, one paragraph, four accusations and a bad metaphor.
Did this guy write speeches for Rove in the WH basement?”
Why do you bother reading them. They are very apparent and easy to skip. I wish everyone would do it and not respond to this moron. It really stinks up this site.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:14 pmThe smartest thing Bush could do would be to confer with the Senate leaders on a replacement for Abu Gonzales, ala Clinton and Bader-Ginsberg. But, smart is beyond his reach and character. Watch for another crony nomination, another neo-con, to ensure a fight with Congress. Then the blame game begins again – Democrats as obstructionists.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:15 pm“Why is Think Communist not saying a word about Norman Hsu’s very suspicious donations to Hillary Clinton?
very good question
commrade you will now be silenced bye bye
Comment by Bob”
How about because the only people that the donations are suspicious to are morons like you?
August 29th, 2007 at 7:18 pmBush had been perfectly conciliatory to the Saudi’s including the Bin Ladens, and the Big Oil, and to Big Pharma. he hasn’t stood up to any of them for a nanosecond. he hates America and Americans; thus the Paraguayan purchase. The feeling is mutual, it appears. Only a few fools and morons still look up to the deserter-in-thief. and they all come here.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:19 pmS.Hall t 66: Seattle was scared by the Mill Bomber – the pansies cancelled the Millenium fireworks at the Needle. WTF?
August 29th, 2007 at 7:19 pmNow we know where Rove has been shuffled off to. He’s the Whitehouse Troll Liason.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pmNow we know where Rove has been shuffled off to. He’s the Whitehouse Troll Liason.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — August 29, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
same job he’s always had, feeding idiots their lying points.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:21 pm“The insiders express “concern†that there is an expectation that Bush will be more “conciliatory.†”
But first, he plans to steal more money from all over the world, then attack Iran, then proclaim himself president for life via his emergency powers authorization.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:29 pmChimpy has been a legend in his own mind since his Yale/cheerleading days…..
August 29th, 2007 at 7:30 pmdid you people see this??? … too funny…
Rove’s car a victim of dirty tricks
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Practical_joker_wraps_Karl_Roves_Jaguar_0829.html
i hope it was left on long enough to ruin the paint job…
August 29th, 2007 at 7:35 pmcould that happen?
…
OT, but important:
“Rep. John Conyers declared House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could not stop him from beginning impeachment proceedings in the House Judiciary Committee against a ‘long list of people’in the Bush administration, although he did not make a firm commitment to begin proceedings.”
August 29th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
The link didn’t work. Here it is:
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Conyers_Impeachment_not_off_my_table_0829.html
August 29th, 2007 at 7:40 pmGSD, Poles matter, flawless. Can anyone name exactly what President Bush could actually claim as a success during his tenure? I’d love to hear some suggestions because I just can’t think of any.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:49 pmWhat, the nice guy in chief?
August 29th, 2007 at 7:49 pmHe must know Larry Craig.
In Bushworld, there have been “successes”. A lot of his supporters made a lot of money off this war on terrorism, and because of Bush’s tax cuts…they get to keep most of it. Incompetence, fraud, and outright thievery have been swept under the rug….no oversite…no threat of legal action. And the government, which had been running balanced budgets, is now crippled by mushrooming debt and cynicism. Dieing on the vine is the concept.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:50 pmThe Dems will try to undo this….I’m not surprised that Bush will oppose their efforts. Confrontation to maintain his “gains” is his plan… all the way to Paraguay…and screw the legacy.
That’s exactly the approach his dad took in his last year.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:50 pmApparently soliciting prostitutes is OK with the Republican Party if you are a Senator from a state with a Democratic Governor. Sen. Diaper Dave Vitter gets a pass because Gov. Blanco would appoint his replacement.
In Idaho, Wide-Stance Larry Craig is called on to quit because his Governor is a Republican and can replace him with another Restroom Republican.
Remember, it is about the Party First.
-GSD
August 29th, 2007 at 7:52 pm“The rats are jumping off the ship” Bush is as cold as ICE. If Laura could leave him-too!
August 29th, 2007 at 7:52 pmShe bailed on the upcoming trip to Australia .
A leopard does’t change it’s spots, He’ll never have ‘roids, he’s a perfect as*hole!…
NOTHING REPORTED ON TP REGARDING CLINTON RETURNING DONATIONS BACK TO NORMAN HSU WHO IS A FUGITIVE OF THE LAW. COULD YOU IMAGINE IF THIS WAS A REPUBLICAN? YOUR HYPOCRISY IS SHAMELESS. WHO IS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL HERE? OH, YEAH, GEORGE SOROS IS IN CHARGE.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:53 pmHillary Clinton Campaign Donates Fugitive Contributor’s Money to Charity
Let me get this straight. Clinton receives money from a fugitive. Finds out and then donates the money to charity? Good catch Clinton. You can bet that a con would have kept the money. Thanks for the heads up.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:57 pmStay on topic knobcheese. Bush. Confrontation.
Open thread comes in at about 7am. Try to focus. Oh and I think you’ve drooled on your nice, brown shirt.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
August 29th, 2007 at 8:01 pm“I’m a divider-NOT a uniter.”- George W. Bush
Hillary Clinton Campaign Donates Fugitive Contributor’s Money to Charity Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
Wow, a politician doing the right thing, and donating questionable money to charity!!! That is news!! An honest politician is so rare, that you wingnuts actually think it’s a BAD THING!!!
That explains why CONSERVATISMISDEAD, thanks to your party of closet cases, pedophiles, purchasers of prostitutes and adulterers!!!
August 29th, 2007 at 8:03 pm#
GSD, Poles matter, flawless. Can anyone name exactly what President Bush could actually claim as a success during his tenure? I’d love to hear some suggestions because I just can’t think of any.
Comment by the fly-man — August 29, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
He seems to have pissed off pert near 70 some percent of the nation.
most likely more, if you add up all the one time or anothers.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:04 pmGood catch Clinton. You can bet that a con would have kept the money. Thanks for the heads up. Comment by yikes — August 29, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
Yeah, like the several GOP candidates that kept their Abramoff stained money! The GOP is the party of do as I say, not as I do in the bathroom stalls!
August 29th, 2007 at 8:09 pm“I’m a divider-NOT a uniter.â€- George W. Bush
Comment by Uncle Ho — August 29, 2007 @ 8:01 pm
Well to be fair, he did unite the Iraqis in hating us!
August 29th, 2007 at 8:09 pmEver notice how boldface is the hallmark of a weak mind and weaker points?
See Mr. Pee and the OOOooooOOO comments…..
August 29th, 2007 at 8:10 pmBob: “Dow Jones Industrial Average 13,289.29 up
Sorry no bad news TPers
Economy humming along….. :)”
I guess Bob’s got his head so far up Bush’s ass that he didn’t notice the market dropped 700 points in the last 2 weeks, even with a phony shot of $250 billion from the FED.
And Bob, average wages are lower today than they were in 2001, so no, many of us are not going shopping.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:10 pmFly-man: Baseball has been spared a commissioner who might have allowed ‘America’s game’ to rival the Tour De France in steroid and substance abuse.
Oh wait, scratch that.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:11 pmTHE POINT IS YOUR IDIOT WEBSITE MISSED THE ENTIRE EPISODE. DON”T THINK THIS IS OVER. IT”S ONLY BEGUN.
HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 29th, 2007 at 8:16 pmRingoDingo; Touche’
August 29th, 2007 at 8:18 pmJack Ripper………..don’t you just love being negative and finding a dark lining in every silver cloud? I bet your military buddies are so glad you retired.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:18 pm#
THE POINT IS YOUR IDIOT WEBSITE MISSED THE ENTIRE EPISODE. DONâ€T THINK THIS IS OVER. ITâ€S ONLY BEGUN.
HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
such a BOLD statement…
August 29th, 2007 at 8:19 pmAnd Bob, average wages are lower today than they were in 2001, so no, many of us are not going shopping.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 29, 2007 @ 8:10 pm
Fortunately, there’s virtually NO real poverty in America. And we should assume Clintons illegal campaign donations that she sent to charity should alleviate much of that.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:19 pmPost#103:
Ask not at whom the chimp flings poo….
August 29th, 2007 at 8:20 pmHey stupid. Maybe if you hold your breath until you turn blue a liberal website will make up phony accusations about a Democrat. Try it!
Then, try to hold your breath until you turn blue to make a conservative website make phony accusations about a republican.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:20 pmHillary Clinton Campaign Donates Fugitive Contributor’s Money to Charity Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
Thats a great story! Of course the big ten Republican owned media aint gonna go for that!
Your a parody troll, yes?
August 29th, 2007 at 8:22 pmFortunately, there’s virtually NO real poverty in America.
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
You are SO “F-in” full of SH*T!!!
August 29th, 2007 at 8:23 pmHey stupid. Maybe if you hold your breath until you turn blue a liberal website will make up phony accusations about a Democrat. Try it!
Then, try to hold your breath until you turn blue to make a conservative website make phony accusations about a republican.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 29, 2007 @ 8:20 pm
I don’t know what that means, but you need to take a breath.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:23 pmComment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
Yet it spends all its time here.
This is a rather old political trick, send someone a donation and hope they don’t notice who its from. Then when they cash it scream bloody murder!!
August 29th, 2007 at 8:25 pmPortrait of a clueless, absurd Bush cultist:
r: “Fortunately, there’s virtually NO real poverty in America.”
How could anyone with half a brain make such a statement unless they are an ugly, inhuman sociopath?
August 29th, 2007 at 8:26 pmYou are SO “F-in†full of SH*T!!!
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — August 29, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
Oh, your data is too convincing. I stand corrected.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:26 pmHow could anyone with half a brain make such a statement unless they are an ugly, inhuman sociopath?
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 29, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
Oh, your data is too convincing. I stand corrected.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:27 pmIs Tired Colon Jack Zipper from S. Carolina? He’s beginning to sound like that Miss Teen USA. Uh, er…..maybe is you hold your breath…..er…your stupid..uh….where was I educated anyway?
August 29th, 2007 at 8:28 pmFortunately, there’s virtually NO real poverty in America
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
Give me a break! Besides , Bush’s problem is with the working poor…those paycheck to paycheck folks who hope they don’t lose their jobs, or get sick, or have car trouble.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:30 pmThese hardworking people are the backbone of this country….and many are one setback away from disaster. they are the independent voters, buying $3 Gas, who think the country is on the wrong track, and have turned on Bush and his incompetent presidency.
Oh, your data is too convincing. I stand corrected.
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
I’m going to break my own “No Profanity” rule here.
F- you, you smarmy little A**wipe. Show us “data” that proves YOUR point, you worthless, gutless, little pr*ck.
What did Mark Twain once say about “statistics”???
There are 3 kinds of lies… lies, damned lies, and statistics.
So before you trot out any “baked” numbers that “prove” your point, stop, think, and decide… do you REALLY have a point to make, or are you just a POS???
August 29th, 2007 at 8:33 pmBadger: People that live paycheck to paycheck are idiots and deserve what their choices brought them. These people come from every financial status from rich to poor.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:33 pmIs Tired Colon Jack Zipper from S. Carolina? He’s beginning to sound like that Miss Teen USA. Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Another gay remark, from the homophobic conservatard – how ironic!
Uh, er…..maybe is you hold your breath…..er…your stupid..uh….where was I educated anyway?
Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Where you educated? Sorry, but there’s no evidence that you ever were!
August 29th, 2007 at 8:34 pm#117
Congratulations on finding your CAPSLOCK key. Best of luck pulling your head out of your arsehole.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:35 pmComment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 8:28 pm
Speaking of Teenie brains, why is it that you constantly whimper and pout about liberalism…if its dead?
Kinda like blowing bubbles, for fun, 100 feet under water with no scuba gear on.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:37 pmBadger: People that live paycheck to paycheck are idiots and deserve what their choices brought them. These people come from every financial status from rich to poor.
Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 8:33 pm
Ah, the elitism of those lucky enough to inherit money and opportunities! Sorry JUNIOR, but your dad shouldn’t have banged the dumb blonde cousin, unfortunately he produced a retarded child.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:38 pmPeople that live paycheck to paycheck are idiots and deserve what their choices brought them…
Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 29, 2007 @ 8:33 pm
Wow! Why don’t you try to get the Republicans to put THAT in their campaign adds.
Obviously , you don’t know too many people who have been visited by job loss, serious illness….or sadly….war injuries.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:39 pmLiberalism is dead!
Oh I know, its like Jorge Botch, if you keep repeating the fib long enough eventually you’ll think its truth!
Catapulting your own projectionism, how quaint!
Now, about that welfare queen state of Iraq…..I dont hear you bemoaning that.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:41 pm“Let me get this straight. Clinton receives money from a fugitive. Finds out and then donates the money to charity? Good catch Clinton. You can bet that a con would have kept the money. Thanks for the heads up.
Comment by yikes”
This is the trolls latest talking point. Somehow Hillary should have known about this guy’s legal troubles. I guess they think she is psychic. Or, does she need to do a background check on every contributor or someone who wants to raise money for her?
How about all the Republicans who take gobs of money from the pornography industry? Shouldn’t that be a top story?
August 29th, 2007 at 8:43 pmWay off topic. Turtle blogs tonight from a bar in Newark.
Fox is on. The Factor is interviewing Ted Nugent ‘Rock Star’. Graphic shows a map of Texas and an arrow pointing to ‘Waco’…
Oh, its cheap but its made my night….
August 29th, 2007 at 8:44 pm“Fortunately, there’s virtually NO real poverty in America
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 8:19 pm”
There is a very large population of people in this country who are poor. I would like to see someone challenge all of the Republicans (and r can join in) to live on a minimum wage paycheck for one month. I’ll be really liberal with them. It can be just them, no children involved (like all the single women who are trying to raise children on minimum wage).
You know r, karma’s a bitch and you better watch out. Your job may go to India one day and you may find yourself poor. Hopefully it will happen, because it’s what you deserve.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:47 pmBadger: or falls ill, maxes out on health insurance (if they have any), spends everything to survive and ends up bankrupt…..
August 29th, 2007 at 8:49 pmFox is on. The Factor is interviewing Ted Nugent ‘Rock Star’. Graphic shows a map of Texas and an arrow pointing to ‘Waco’…
Oh, its cheap but its made my night….
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 29, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
Is it true that the Nuge, sh*t and p*ssed itself for weeks to get out
of honorably serving its country?
That there takes balls.
Balls, Nuge.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:49 pmWhat a mental image.
Liberalisisdead sinking slowly down thru the cold murky waters off the bow of the good ship lollipop, its bimbo blonde hair swriling about as its last breath merrily passes thru pursed lip forming umbrella bubbles, enthralled, never thinking to follow them.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:51 pmre 131
August 29th, 2007 at 8:51 pmnugent is a draft dodger, just like cheney, wolfie, kristol, orielly, limbaugh, gingrich, etc. At least he isn’t AWOL like bush.
“Badger: People that live paycheck to paycheck are idiots and deserve what their choices brought them. ”
Yeah, that kind of statement is going to get votes for your party.
Keep talking man.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:52 pm“Fortunately, there’s virtually NO real poverty in America
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 8:19 pmâ€
There is a very large population of people in this country who are poor. I would like to see someone challenge all of the Republicans (and r can join in) to live on a minimum wage paycheck for one month. I’ll be really liberal with them. It can be just them, no children involved (like all the single women who are trying to raise children on minimum wage).
You know r, karma’s a bitch and you better watch out. Your job may go to India one day and you may find yourself poor. Hopefully it will happen, because it’s what you deserve.
Comment by bilbogaggins — August 29, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
Yes indeed. Check out the book Nickle and Dimed by Barbara Ehrenreich. She does exactly that and be damned if was very difficult.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:53 pmFox is on. The Factor is interviewing Ted Nugent ‘Rock Star’. Graphic shows a map of Texas and an arrow pointing to ‘Waco’…
Ah yes, the Branch Davidians. Wacko ,Tejas, not all that far from Crawford.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:53 pmnugent is a draft dodger, just like cheney, wolfie, kristol, orielly, limbaugh, gingrich, etc. At least he isn’t AWOL like bush.
Comment by bobwurst — August 29, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Right. It’s how he got out of it that really puts thing into perspective for me.
sh*tting and p*ssing itself then, sh*tting and p*ssing itself now.
what a piece of work… that wacky Nuge.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:54 pm#73 That has to be the scariest book I’ve ever read. Even moreso than It, and that kept me awake for days.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:55 pmGive me a break! those paycheck to paycheck folks who hope they don’t lose their jobs, or get sick, or have car trouble.
These hardworking people are the backbone of this country….and many are one setback away from disaster. they are the independent voters, buying $3 Gas, who think the country is on the wrong track, and have turned on Bush and his incompetent presidency.
Comment by Badger — August 29, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Ok.
hope they don’t lose their jobs, or get sick, or have car trouble.
Me too. I bet you too.
Bush and his incompetent presidency.
The government definition of poverty rate has been 11.3 percent to 15.1 percent of the population over the past 20 years).
Blame Bush, it’s easier than taking responsibility.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:55 pm“more so”…although I could claim a new word with “moreso”.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:56 pmBobwurst: come on now, at least be honest.
Yes, some of the masterminds behind the first WTC bombing were caught and imprisoned. However, the next events on the Clinton-terrorism fighting timeline aren’t so friendly. We could discuss the shamefull retreat from Somali on which Osama Bin Laden commented “they planned for a long struggle, but the U.S. rushed out in shame.”
We could discuss how we knew where Bin Laden was about ten times during the Clinton administration. We could talk about the canceled operation in May 1998 that would have snagged Bin Laden at his Tarnak Farms compound in Afghanistan. Or the Tomahawk missile fired at the Sudanese asprin factory. Or the 48 hours notice that the administration gave to local leaders before missiles were fired at training camps in Afganistan, which *shocker* didn’t get our target because they *somehow* found out. Or the time in December of 1998 when we could have taken out Bin Laden in Kandahar, but Clinton cancelled it, worried about colateral damage. Or the plan to use an HC 130 gunship against bin Laden’s headquarters, later shelved due to “an unwillingness to take risks and a lack of vision and understanding” according to Lt General William Boykin. Or in May 1999 when “three opportunities were missed in 36 hours” when Bin Laden was known to be in Kandahar for five days, but Clinton was too worried about collateral damage. Or we could discuss Janet Reno’s new legal barriers that prevented the CIA from sharing intelligence with the FBI before 9/11. Also, there’s the pesky estimate of the 10,000 to 20,000 terrorists that were trained in bin Laden’s camps in the years before 9/11.
It’s funny you mention Kyoto, which was voted down 95-0 in the senate. I guess Bush wasn’t the only one who saw it was a terrible idea?
Nice of you to ask, 3.2 million manufacturing jobs have been lost since 2000 either to new technology that renders them obsolete, or to workers in other countries. However, over ten million jobs have been created since then, and unemployment is well into what is considered full employement, at 4.4%.
I’m also glad you asked about the economy now compared to 2000. Unemployment is virtually the same; exports are higher; imports are higher, which means consumption is higher; personal income is up (even when adjusted for inflation), and purchasing power is up; homeownership is up; the trade deficit is just slightly higher, but that doesn’t really factor into economic quality. We could go on and on here.
Yes, how about the deficit? Clinton was blessed with a windfall thanks to the tech boom; Bush had to deal with the tail end of the boom (ie the bursting of the bubble), and a major domestic terrorist tragedy that compounded the already receinding economy. We could have worried about not having a deficit, and allowed the economy to falter even more; but instead, taxes were cut and we created a deficit, but as Bush predicted, the economy has since experienced growth every single year, and the deficit is on track to be eliminated, “tax cuts for the rich” and all.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:56 pm“Badger: People that live paycheck to paycheck are idiots and deserve what their choices brought them. â€
Well when I was a kid Burger King and other fast food joints were just part time high school jobs for pocket change, to fill up the GTO for a night of drag racing down Buckner Blvd.
Today thats many families full time job, their main source of income. Paycheck to paycheck is not a choice one makes, today its survival. Most of the jobs created today are in the service industry.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:58 pmIf Bush were more conciliatory he would lopping-off heads in the rose garden.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:03 pmHaving the capability of human insight and recognition of failures and errors is definitely NOT within the purview of a sociopath. Expect nothing but more of the same; he is not capable of a human epiphany.
As for his reputation with his own people, however, he’s a total “lameduck” and “lamebrain”. What a legacy.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:03 pmBlame Bush, it’s easier than taking responsibility.
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
Naw, the real problem is disparity, the middle class is being crushed by cheap labor and it sure didn’t help the sub-prime bubble bursting.
Marxist capitalism is self-defeating and rather un-patriotic.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:03 pm“Blame Bush, it’s easier than taking responsibility.
Comment by r”
Yeah, pretend that everyone’s complaints are just whining, it’s easier that taking responsiblilty for your vote.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:05 pmTed Nugent is of the same failure-ilk as Georgie Porgie. He never made it and never will….He was a flop from the outset and continues to be one, acting like a buffoon and making comments that reduce his personal to human rubble.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:05 pmRet. Col. Jack Ripper: you mean the stock market lost 700 points after gaining nearly 12,000 points since 1980, and over 5700 points under Bush since 2002?? EVERYBODY PANIC!
Did you know it gained 247 points just today? Did you know your point is worthless?
August 29th, 2007 at 9:07 pmWell, when I was a kid Burger King was where we dragged for girls after filling up the Econoline at the gas station where I worked…
August 29th, 2007 at 9:07 pmThere is a very large population of people in this country who are poor. I would like to see someone challenge all of the Republicans (and r can join in) to live on a minimum wage paycheck for one month. I’ll be really liberal with them. It can be just them, no children involved (like all the single women who are trying to raise children on minimum wage).
You know r, karma’s a bitch and you better watch out. Your job may go to India one day and you may find yourself poor. Hopefully it will happen, because it’s what you deserve.
Comment by bilbogaggins — August 29, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
Actually, that’s my point. Minimum wage is not a good definition of poor or poverty. I lived on min wage for a long time. But it’s not poverty.
About half a percent of America is really poor.
The government definition of poverty includes persons with:
• Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.
• Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
• Eighty-nine percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:10 pmYeah, pretend that everyone’s complaints are just whining, it’s easier that taking responsiblilty for your vote.
Comment by bobwurst — August 29, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
Um, I do take responsibility for my vote. I’m proud of my vote. I’m conservative and I voted that way. I assume you feel the same way for your vote.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:15 pmTed Nugent is of the same failure-ilk as Georgie Porgie. He never made it and never will….He was a flop from the outset and continues to be one, acting like a buffoon and making comments that reduce his personal to human rubble.
Comment by veritas — August 29, 2007 @ 9:05 pm
Well, he comes to the city i’ll be living in every once in a while. With his
bows and arrows, talking a good game. I think I’m going to ask him about it.
Especially about his pants.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:16 pmOh TP is censoring again.
Oh the bars are throwing out again – Mr P*ssant is here….
August 29th, 2007 at 9:21 pmHmm poverty up since 2000 – like riding those Clinton years, eh, ‘r’?
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/poverty05/pov05hi.html
After 4 years of consecutive increases, the poverty rate stabilized at 12.6 percent in 2005—higher than the most recent low of 11.3 percent in 2000 and lower than the rate in 1959 (22.4 percent), the first year for which poverty estimates are available.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind, r.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:23 pmNaw, the real problem is disparity, the middle class is being crushed by cheap labor and it sure didn’t help the sub-prime bubble bursting.
Marxist capitalism is self-defeating and rather un-patriotic.Comment by Joe ScarredBurro — August 29, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
So we should eliminate cheap labor? How is that going to help the poor laborers?
August 29th, 2007 at 9:23 pmmm poverty up since 2000 – like riding those Clinton years, eh, ‘r’?
http://www.census.gov/ hhes/ www/ poverty/ poverty05/ pov05hi.html
After 4 years of consecutive increases, the poverty rate stabilized at 12.6 percent in 2005—higher than the most recent low of 11.3 percent in 2000 and lower than the rate in 1959 (22.4 percent), the first year for which poverty estimates are available.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 29, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
Don’t be cheeky, unless you just want to be a ___. You agree, government defined poverty is 11 to 15 percent over 20 years.
And it was worse in 1959!
So you agree, Badger is wrong in his: Bush and his incompetent presidency.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:33 pmComment by Badger — August 29, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Huh? Be coherent please if you can.
Let’s see – you say poverty has declined over 20 years. I point out that the low over the last 9-10 years was after 8 years of President Clinton…. meaning Chimpy McCodpiece has turned around the chart and it’s heading up again “We’re number #1 – USA, USA!”.
You’ve been pantsed – try another blog.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:38 pmMr P is answering himself – Senator Craig might have a word for that….
August 29th, 2007 at 9:42 pmNaw, the real problem is disparity, the middle class is being crushed by cheap labor and Marxist capitalism is self-defeating and rather un-patriotic.Comment by Joe
ScarredBurro — August 29, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
United States government, strongly influenced by corporations (see Mussolini on fascism for a discussion here), have exported manufacturing jobs (along with the protections of ordinary people and along with environmental and safety precautions – re the latest Chinese lead paint problems).
Faced with strong popular support for labor laws and environmental responsibility, corporate America has simply exported the problems elsewhere.
The world’s economy is currently seeking ‘bottom’ in where to stash the pollution and the slavery so Americans can get their f***ing Happy Meals.
Thanks Tom Friedman, Margaret Thatcher, George HW Bush, Clinton, Al Gore and Chimpy McFlightSuit.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — August 29, 2007 @ 9:29 pm
Ok, how do you guys reconcile this?
August 29th, 2007 at 9:42 pmDon’t be cheeky, unless you just want to be a ___. You agree, government defined poverty is 11 to 15 percent over 20 years
The population is now 300 million r. 10% of that is 30 million,
15% is 35 million, 20% 40 million. What was the population 20 years ago? Percentages can be misleading, yes it may have stayed at 15-20% but the population rose accordingly.
Thats alot of people.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:44 pm“Minimum wage is not a good definition of poor or poverty.” – r
And having a television is not a good definition of ‘not poor’.
“I lived on min wage for a long time. But it’s not poverty.”
The definition of poverty in the US is $9800 for one person, and $20,000 for a family of four. At current Federal minimum wage, one full-time worker would be just over poverty level, and two full-time workers would be just over for the family of four.
You “lived” on minimum wage for a long time – I’m guessing you were young, healthy, and unencumbered with dependents and responsibilities, with a low threshold for quality of life expectations, in a low cost part of the country.
Most people earning minimum wage are probably not “in poverty” because those jobs usually go to students living at home or young people maybe sharing a flat and who can risk doing without such niceties as health insurance or a car.
Ted Kazinski was happy as a clam living off of grubs in his Montana shack, so sure, it’s possible to live well on poverty income, so long as you have a flexible definition of “well”.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:44 pm“About half a percent of America is really poor.
The government definition of poverty includes persons with:
• Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.
• Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
• Eighty-nine percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.”
Comment by r
All either purchased at pawn shops, or rental places like RentaCenter, where they buy on time, and pay over twice the retail price. What’s your point? That there are people who desire a little self-esteem, and buy used stuff to make themselves feel a little less poor? Your “stats” don’t say where the stuff was purchased. That tells me your understanding of (and care for) the poor is thimble-deep, or you’d have reasoned this out yourself.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:45 pmOk, how do you guys reconcile this?
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 9:42 pm
How about you telling us your position, r. If you can write a sentence?
August 29th, 2007 at 9:46 pmTPers…
Come out and pla-yeah!!
Comment by Mr. President — August 29, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
And deprive you of the joy of playing with yourself? No we couldn’t. Close your eyes and think of….. a stall in Minny-StP Airport, one ‘Family Values/Pro Life’ Suit, grey hair, about 60…mmmm yum huh?
August 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pmAnd, “R,” you haven’t spent any appreciable time in the poor category, or you’d have purchsed such used items yourself.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pmCome out and pla-yeah!!
Comment by Mr. President — August 29, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Hey Look Its ISA IEW.
Find your light soul yet Mr P?
Nope, you haven’t. Still too much bias in the old ticker eh?
August 29th, 2007 at 9:50 pm#
TPers…
Come out and pla-yeah!!
Comment by Mr. President — August 29, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
c’mon, p. there are better avenues out there for you to play out your
gang banging fantasies. Few things are as silly as a young republican
wonderbread boy playin’ the gangsta.
go back to your psp, p.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:51 pmTPers…
Come out and pla-yeah!!
Comment by Mr. President — August 29, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
Clink….
Clink…..
Clink…….
August 29th, 2007 at 9:52 pmSo we should eliminate cheap labor? How is that going to help the poor laborers?
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
How about eliminating the pigs at the trough of capitalistic welfare? the CEOs making 324 times what their workers make, but fighting to their last breath any raise in the minumum wage, or unionization? The boss paying $29,000 a year and cutting benefits and pension plans while taking home $10.2 million? As usual, you don’t have a clue as to the real world. You live off your parents and their welfare, while families scimp and go into debt for their lifetimes to try to get a little piece of what the pigs are selling them; shiny new TVs on easy credit, the American dream of bullshit materialism. an dy Ceo sho9uld be allowed to make as much as he can, as long as it’s no more than 20 times what the workers make. Anything else is robber baron theft of services, indentured servitude, and supremely unAmerican. It’s disgusting as well, and indefensible. Only rightards without soul would buy into this pathology.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:52 pmWow. Slow news day for TP.
Comment by Mr. President
Naw, on days like this we troll conservative blogs. We just do it so as not to be noticed like. Thats the secret of being a good troll, influence!
August 29th, 2007 at 9:53 pmThe Republicans are finally not playing the party line to protect their own. And on such a burning issue as . . . a harmless misdemeanor involving sex.
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/No_mercy_for_Craig_from_fellow_0829.html
Yes there is hypocrisy involved. But really. This the thing Republicans choose to jump ship on their own on??? What about the war. They still huddle around the Fox Republican leadership on the war, torture, secret spying and so many other issues that cost American LIVES, hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars, and our values and civil liberties. Where are their priorities? Why are they turning on this guy? Because Craig didn’t turn to them before blowing up this scandal. In other words, he screwed me so I’m screwing him. That’s how the Fox Republicans think. It’s all about them. Not about the good of America. So sad. So darn sad.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:53 pmSo, you caught the reference!
Comment by Mr. President — August 29, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
as did, r… and many others. you’re not the bright bulb you claim to be.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:54 pmgo find another forum, p. there are many out there that will suit your need
appropriately.
• Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions. – r
On average, there is one television per household in Mexico.
Ergo, Mexico is not poor.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:56 pm“Color?” - p
Of course.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:59 pm(unless it’s the result of 100% natural climate change, which, by the way, is 100% unaffected by anything that man has, is, or ever will do)
Comment by Mr. President — August 29, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
Why do you insist on displaying such ignorance and proving your lack of education? Is that your kick, making a jackass of yourself? Is that your ony attention-getting device? Do your parents hate you so much you must embarrass your whole family by this intellectual jerking off? Are you bound and determined to prove that rightards are approaching extinction because they are mentally unequipped to deal with life?
I say yes. And good riddance.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:59 pm“Why are they turning on this guy?”
It’s hard to believe none of his Senate buddies knew he was gay.
They just wanted to get past the next election, and he confirms for voters that the GOP is little more than a secular Vatican. That’s why.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pm• Eighty-nine percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
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GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!
Comment by Mr. President
With the current economy trend…yeah, you are gonna need it.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pmI took crap for that, ya know. Can you believe it?
Comment by Mr. President
People here maybe called liberals but they do know their religious stuff. (But dont take it personal) no matter what Ann sats about Godless people.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pmErgo, Mexico is not poor.
Comment by gorn by any other name
Great job.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:01 pm• Eighty-nine percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
All of which can be purchased at garage sales. Whats the point here?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:01 pmBack on topic, well close:
Barbara Bush on Hurricane Katrina victims: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbarbarabushunderprivileged.htm
“And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them.”
It doesn’t fall far from the tree sports fans. Imagine being brought up in a house like this…… you get what you vote for…. or perhaps what William Rehnquist voted twice for….
August 29th, 2007 at 10:03 pmSo we should eliminate cheap labor? How is that going to help the poor laborers?
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 9:23 pm
How about eliminating the pigs at the trough of capitalistic welfare? the CEOs making 324 times what their workers make, but fighting to their last breath any raise in the minumum wage, or unionization? The boss paying $29,000 a year and cutting benefits and pension plans while taking home $10.2 million? As usual, you don’t have a clue as to the real world. You live off your parents and their welfare, while families scimp and go into debt for their lifetimes to try to get a little piece of what the pigs are selling them; shiny new TVs on easy credit, the American dream of bullshit materialism. an dy Ceo sho9uld be allowed to make as much as he can, as long as it’s no more than 20 times what the workers make. Anything else is robber baron theft of services, indentured servitude, and supremely unAmerican. It’s disgusting as well, and indefensible. Only rightards without soul would buy into this pathology.
Comment by ronjazz — August 29, 2007 @ 9:52 pm
I didn’t read all that because ronjazz didn’t answer the question.
Later.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:03 pmGOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Shouldn’t you, Greek Historian, say,”Zeus King of Gods Bless the US of A?” =P
August 29th, 2007 at 10:04 pmComment by Juan C — August 29, 2007 @ 10:00 pm
Juan, regular posters are somewhere else? What do you know?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:05 pmI didn’t read all that because ronjazz didn’t answer the question.
Later. Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
The poverty level is set at around 17-19k R. 30-35 million people is alot. We outsourced so much labot to communist china they brought people OUT of poverty instead of putting them into poverty.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:06 pm“So we should eliminate cheap labor? How is that going to help the poor laborers?”
Comment by r
False choice. Try again, later. And try harder, for mercy’s sake.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:06 pmWhy? This is America.
Comment by Mr. President — August 29, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
No it isn’t. it was America, until your filth weakened and destroyed what was good about it. God has damned America, in the body of George Bush and his criminal, godless cabal.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:08 pmWhy? This is America. Comment by Mr. President
Ahh, theres the rub, we are secular are we not? Are there or are there not some 350 names for GOD? So when I say in God we trust, of which God do you speak?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:08 pmtest
Comment by Mr. President
Failed.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:08 pmYou are still a failure Pee
How does it feel?
Juan, regular posters are somewhere else? What do you know?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
As far as I know, they are not. At least not in the other place, but there is a plan that I havent been able to know very well.
Can you contact Zoo? She knows the details.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:09 pmIs it the Jewish name YHWH?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:09 pmToo bad the logic is against poor gorn!!!
Comment by Mr. President
I will let you know when I care about that.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:10 pmI didn’t read all that because ronjazz didn’t answer the question.
Later. Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Actually, I answered the question and proposed a solution. But you go run away, r-, like chimpy on 9/11. No wonder we can’t win a war, what with the cowards on the right shirking their duty.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:11 pmHow does it feel?
Comment by Wayne
Like a bad megalophysichia…
August 29th, 2007 at 10:12 pmComment by Mr. President — August 29, 2007 @ 10:10 pm
Actually Ronjazz is not too far off. Many Internationalists dont see America as a country with borders.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:12 pmThanks, p, I enjoy those awards, as they get you to show what an ignorant pussy coward you really are, and how stupid your poor miserable little life is. It’s a good show, as you set the VERY low standard for rightards in their caves everywhere, and most of the rightarded visitors here fight very hard to lower that bar even further. You usually are quite successful in getting right down into the slime of the gutters, though. It’s time for your 34th meltdown of the day, so go to it.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:15 pmTPers…
Come out and pla-yeah!!
Comment by Mr. President
The Warriors ( TPers ) would just kick your ass, wimp and then leave you for the Riffs to slaughter, Luther
August 29th, 2007 at 10:16 pmLOL
Comment by Juan C — August 29, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
Nope, I’m not in the know. I am a ‘Turtle-Incognito’.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:16 pmI know you all want there to be economic hardship in America. And several posters have indicated that “poor†people in Mexico are in a similar position as “poor†people in the US, but I guess we are talking about different definitions.
The current definition of “poor†in the US is = Middle class in the 70s, adjusted for inflation.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:16 pmJuan C = Mr. Pee?
Comment by Mr. President
Nah, I still have to suffer a great deal of personal frustration to be like you.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:18 pmMore like “Get-his-ass-kicked-in-Chief”
August 29th, 2007 at 10:18 pmAsk Shirls about that one! Comment by Mr. President
Mr P, I thought you wanted to play-yeah!
August 29th, 2007 at 10:19 pmThe current definition of “poor†in the US is = Middle class in the 70s, adjusted for inflation.
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 10:16 p
that’s one heck of a definition, r. What’s your current definition of the wealthy? I’d like to see that.. your definition that is.
I’ve seen the wealthy, defined or not.
r?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:19 pmTerry, stay there, please.
Waiting for info. Heh. (But is true…)
August 29th, 2007 at 10:20 pm“block what he considers profligate spending by the Democratic majority on appropriations bills”
If you want to see who does profligate spending and who doesn’t—-get a graph of spending Carter-Reagan-GHWB-Clinton-GWB. You will see that this “Democrats spend more” is all BS. In truth, the Republicans spend more and they do not spend it on Americans. They spend it on corporations and on death and destruction.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:21 pmComment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
All right, all you homeless vets and bankrupt-cos-I-got-no-health-insurance, McJob-and-raising-a-family posters let r know what you think?
Wot? No computer? No web access? WTF are you doing people? Jeez, come on, stop pushing that cart and type for god’s sake1
August 29th, 2007 at 10:21 pmThe current definition of “poor†in the US is = Middle class in the 70s, adjusted for inflation.
Comment by r — August 29, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
I’m glad there are no shelters, no soup kitchens, no families living in abandoned cars and warehouses, no welfare necessary, no homeless vets and no food stamp programs for Walmart employees. Aren’t we lucky that America is so perfect!
Dolt.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:21 pmI know you all want there to be economic hardship in America.
Why would that be? I don’t want economic hardship, the new age robber barons do. Poverty only increases crime.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:22 pmpoor†people in Mexico are in a similar position as “poor†people in the US, but I guess we are talking about different definitions.
Of course whats the value of a peso to a dollar?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:25 pmI’m outta dis beeeyaatch!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Promises, promises
August 29th, 2007 at 10:28 pmBut like the real pResident, you lie and will be back.
As long as records have been kept in the US (87 years) whenever a Dem president replaces a Repub, the job growth rate improves, poverty declines, and unemployment rate declines. Whenever a Repub replaces a Dem president, they worsen. Get an almanac and check it out.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:29 pmOkay r, I worked at a company where we helped people get free drugs thru programs offered by the Drug companies. Often these people would have about a home, retired, but could not keep uo with inflation. The drugs are so expensive they would not eat so they could afford the drugs, or they would take half what the doctor prescribed so they could eat. And thse people were not black, not hispanic, people who worked hard their whole life, older retirees, I even knew some of their kids from school, sadly. A 300 dollar a month eletcricity bill would zap these people, they never planned on utility rates that got that high. Some required 1500 dollars a month in drugs alone! And thats just one of them.
But like the real pResident, you lie and will be back.
Comment by Wayne — August 29, 2007 @ 10:28 pm
Mr P doesn’t like it when I he cant answer a question I ask him.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:33 pmr thinks that criticizing your govt´s job to give its citizens the kind of life THEY ARE PAYING FOR, equals to hating your country. Sad state of debate.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:35 pmGet an almanac and check it out.
Comment by Keith — August 29, 2007 @ 10:29
Thats why they have to make up catch phrases like compassionate conservative etc etc.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pmFrom Eisenhower to today, in every budget, the % of revenue that comes from corporations declines and the % that comes from people increases. The top personal tax rate has fallen from 90% to 35(?)%. The corporations are paying less, rich people are paying less, the poor can’t pay, so it comes from the middle class.
The last six years, median income has declined after inflation. The first time this has happened since the Great Depression (caused by twelve years of Republican rule). GWB’s first term resulted in the fewest jobs created since the Great Depression.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pmTerry…how are you in thermodynamics?
August 29th, 2007 at 10:41 pmGWB’s first term resulted in the fewest jobs created since the Great Depression. Comment by Keith — August 29, 2007 @ 10:36 pm
Thats why the trickle down theory of lower taxes creates jobs is BS, they knew it wouldn’t create jobs.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:42 pmFrom 1920-32 with Harding-Coolidge-Hoover they also called their economic policies “TRICLE-DOWN”. The people just got trickled on.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:45 pmComment by Juan C — August 29, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Er, are you asking me if I’m hot? I have a six-pack – right here in this hotel ice bucket….
August 29th, 2007 at 10:46 pmThe reverse of trickle down DOES work. When people at the bottom get money they immediately spend it at stores.
When the rich buy a BMW, or a Van Gogh, or just sit on their extra money, it does not help the economy.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:47 pmFrom 1920-32 with Harding-Coolidge-Hoover they also called their economic policies “TRICLE-DOWNâ€. The people just got trickled on
I worked as plumber for a while. Sh*t runs downhill was a common phrase.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:48 pmhehehehe.
Terry, just write me at finisci@hotmail.com and I will tell you how things are…well, the few things I know.
You have to validate your identity telling me about the player from Fuerte Apache. ;)
August 29th, 2007 at 10:52 pmComment by Juan C — August 29, 2007 @ 10:52 pm
thought that was a Paul Newman film? Or perhaps something to do with a Man U striker…..I don’t do Man U..
August 29th, 2007 at 10:59 pmWell, Man U is not doing Man U recently…
August 29th, 2007 at 11:07 pmMr P doesn’t like it when I he cant answer a question I ask him.
Comment by Joe ScarredBurro
He never wants to debate actual facts.
He just wants to just post troll droppings, like a monkey throwing feces. Really, very stupid stuff too. =P
For example:
August 29th, 2007 at 11:16 pmAsk him about his reasoning behind why he thinks Saudis are not muslum. Poof! he dissapears. LOL
Notice, r disappeared about the same time Pee left.
I also notice, the same would happen with Dr. Dog and quite a few other trolls.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:22 pmPlus mistakes in slipping telltale word patterns and Mr. Pee’s certain special brand of Stupidity. =D
There is also John Ford’s Fort Apache with John Wayne and Henry Fonda.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:23 pmActually, Saudi Arabia is 100% Muslim because it is against the law not to be.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:24 pmActually, Saudi Arabia is 100% Muslim because it is against the law not to be.
Comment by Keith
Correct.
August 29th, 2007 at 11:28 pmBut.
Not according to Mr. Pee.
lmao
Comment by Keith — August 29, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
Ah yes. That’s correct.
August 30th, 2007 at 12:20 amAntagonist in chief
August 30th, 2007 at 12:28 amAnti Christ in chief
Everything but a leader of the once most powerful nation on earth.
I guess I don’t need these Sleepwells anymore.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:48 amIn history books of the future, GWB’s name always has an asterisk next to it–because he wasn’t really President.
Then there’s this:
“In 1984 I watched George W. Bush enthusiastically and expertly perform a homosexual act on another man, one Victor Ashe.”
August 30th, 2007 at 7:32 amhttp://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/
http://www.lustfulutterances.com/
Irather like the idea of Bushiva and L’il Dick on the lam…
…surrounded by armed law enforcement agents and military…
…proclaiming,
“They’ll never take us alive Ma!”
…then receiving the Bonnie and Clyde treatment…
…AFTER their assets have been confiscated of course…
August 30th, 2007 at 9:15 pm