Comments on: Russert: Conservatives ‘Just Want Senator Craig To Exit, To Leave’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:37:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Chris http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4052128 Chris Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:28:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4052128 The backdrop of the incident is unclear. Is this airport's rest room a gay meeting place or known to be a gay meeting place? And if the allegations were true, how would the Senator have established that the person in the stall next to him could possibly have been gay, unless he first met him on the way in or at the sink? Would he be making sexual advances to someone whom he hasn't even seen? It could have been a 90 year old man in the next stall or a child. If this was the potential type of random encounter, there could be a high risk for any number of diseases. What would be interesting is if the Senator was a blood donor. Then whether the Senator is gay or not, the tactics used on him seem to point to an invasion of privacy. The Idaho Statesmen, interviewed over 300 people on his history all from the point of view of his sexuality. I would like to see this newspaper reporter have someone interview 300 people who knew him looking for so called folly. This type of looking in on people's behavior in a bathroom or stalking people has Orwellian implications if anyone has read 1984 where people were looked in on by Big Brother. Whatever this case goes into, it really goes into the area of invasion of privacy and that is the greater crime here or the giant issue here. With the availability of minute cameras, is someone's visit or anyone's visit to a stall in a bathroom videotaped? Or are there these small devices looking up women's dresses from the sidewalk? In fact Senator Craig may have had homosexual liason's. Does this mean that all of the sudden he shouldn't work? Should every homosexual just go home and never work again? It does seem regardless that a Senator can't have a double life in terms of sexuality. It had long been said that homosexuality is something that can't come out if you want to make it big in politics. As to whether if Graig is and was a homosexual and did vote against gay marriage it doesn't follow that a politician that is homosexual automatically has to champion factions of gay rights. Political views can differ from personal views. If I smoke pot, that doesn't mean I have to be an advocate for pot. Another aspect of this is the large degree of homosexual material available on the Web, and there must be a lot of users of this material for the amount that is out there. It is like the drug problem, when Kilo's of cocaine are coming into a county, you know there are users and buyers in greater numbers. In general, this country is the in the core of hypocrisy when it ocmes to letting the steam out of the pot of sexuality. The backdrop of the incident is unclear. Is this airport’s rest room a gay meeting place or known to be a gay meeting place? And if the allegations were true, how would the Senator have established that the person in the stall next to him could possibly have been gay, unless he first met him on the way in or at the sink? Would he be making sexual advances to someone whom he hasn’t even seen? It could have been a 90 year old man in the next stall or a child.
If this was the potential type of random encounter, there could be a high risk for any number of diseases. What would be interesting is if the Senator was a blood donor.
Then whether the Senator is gay or not, the tactics used on him seem to point to an invasion of privacy. The Idaho Statesmen, interviewed over 300 people on his history all from the point of view of his sexuality. I would like to see this newspaper reporter have someone interview 300 people who knew him looking for so called folly.
This type of looking in on people’s behavior in a bathroom or stalking people has Orwellian implications if anyone has read 1984 where people were looked in on by Big Brother. Whatever this case goes into, it really goes into the area of invasion of privacy and that is the greater crime here or the giant issue here. With the availability of minute cameras, is someone’s visit or anyone’s visit to a stall in a bathroom videotaped? Or are there these small devices looking up women’s dresses from the sidewalk?
In fact Senator Craig may have had homosexual liason’s. Does this mean that all of the sudden he shouldn’t work? Should every homosexual just go home and never work again?
It does seem regardless that a Senator can’t have a double life in terms of sexuality. It had long been said that homosexuality is something that can’t come out if you want to make it big in politics.
As to whether if Graig is and was a homosexual and did vote against gay marriage it doesn’t follow that a politician that is homosexual automatically has to champion factions of gay rights. Political views can differ from personal views. If I smoke pot, that doesn’t mean I have to be an advocate for pot.
Another aspect of this is the large degree of homosexual material available on the Web, and there must be a lot of users of this material for the amount that is out there. It is like the drug problem, when Kilo’s of cocaine are coming into a county, you know there are users and buyers in greater numbers. In general, this country is the in the core of hypocrisy when it ocmes to letting the steam out of the pot of sexuality.

]]> By: Steve Real http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4049104 Steve Real Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:47:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4049104 Senator Craig is a politikal liability. The longer he stays to be the clown in this growing politikal circus, the more Republican party will suffer. This public feeding frenzy has just begun. What does he think he’s doing out there? Have some decency Senator Craig and resign. The show is over Larry. get your stuff and go! Senator Craig is a politikal liability.

The longer he stays to be the clown
in this growing politikal circus,
the more Republican party will suffer.

This public feeding frenzy has just begun.
What does he think
he’s doing out there?

Have some decency Senator Craig
and resign.

The show is over Larry.
get your stuff and go!

]]> By: Probus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4046937 Probus Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:12:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4046937 Hypocrisy and corruption go hand in hand with the GOP these days. It's too late for the GOP to try to fix the political fallout from Craig's guilty plea. Craig will be the Mark Foley of the 2008 elections. Hypocrisy and corruption go hand in hand with the GOP these days. It’s too late for the GOP to try to fix the political fallout from Craig’s guilty plea. Craig will be the Mark Foley of the 2008 elections.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4046915 Lora Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:54:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4046915 Sh…t, you people have kept Ted Kennedy in the Senate despite his drowing(SIC) of his girlfriend in the 1970s. so, what’s your point? Comment by why Yet a new moniker, I see, valiantthehater, etc. But your poor spelling and syntax, run-on sentences, etc. give you away, as usual. First of all, since I'm not and have never been registered to vote in Massachusetts, I haven't kept Ted Kennedy in the Senate. Secondly, since you are so concerned about fatal car accidents that occurred in the 1960s (not 1970s--a fact you could have easily looked up), please tell us what you think about Laura Welch Bush running through a stop sign and killing her classmate (and maybe ex-boyfriend). Finally, both George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have DUI arrest records, but that obviously doesn't bother you they way it does for Patrick Kennedy, who was quick to seek help, unlike your unheroic heroes. Sh…t, you people have kept Ted Kennedy in the Senate despite his
drowing(SIC) of his girlfriend in the 1970s. so, what’s your point?
Comment by why

Yet a new moniker, I see, valiantthehater, etc. But your poor spelling and syntax, run-on sentences, etc. give you away, as usual.
First of all, since I’m not and have never been registered to vote in Massachusetts, I haven’t kept Ted Kennedy in the Senate. Secondly, since you are so concerned about fatal car accidents that occurred in the 1960s (not 1970s–a fact you could have easily looked up), please tell us what you think about Laura Welch Bush running through a stop sign and killing her classmate (and maybe ex-boyfriend).
Finally, both George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have DUI arrest records, but that obviously doesn’t bother you they way it does for Patrick Kennedy, who was quick to seek help, unlike your unheroic heroes.

]]> By: Dave http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4046599 Dave Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:03:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4046599 Haha, basically, being Republican means admitting you're a closeted homosexual. I love it. Good luck at the next GOP convention in the bathroom, kids! Haha, basically, being Republican means admitting you’re a closeted homosexual.

I love it. Good luck at the next GOP convention in the bathroom, kids!

]]> By: Bruno Hauptmann http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4046345 Bruno Hauptmann Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:44:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4046345 No no, he ain't getting away that easy. We ain't even begun the roasting yet. No no, he ain’t getting away that easy. We ain’t even begun the roasting yet.

]]> By: Tired Of Fighting http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4046110 Tired Of Fighting Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:15:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4046110 Until Timmeh can sit onstage with Karl Rove and interview him, then he should not be allowed to speak. Until Timmeh can sit onstage with Karl Rove and interview him, then he should not be allowed to speak.

]]> By: EvilGOPbastards http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045992 EvilGOPbastards Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:39:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045992 Thank goodness it wasn't Vitter the Shitter in the next stall! Things could have got really, really messy! And what's that about Rove and Gannon/Guckert/HotMilitaryStud having a "friendship" that "dates" back to high school? Thank goodness it wasn’t Vitter the Shitter in the next stall!

Things could have got really, really messy!

And what’s that about Rove and Gannon/Guckert/HotMilitaryStud having a “friendship” that “dates” back to high school?

]]> By: Chris L http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045739 Chris L Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:37:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045739 How many women did Clinton score while in the WH? anyone? Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 2:14 pm # George W. Bush, Republican president, accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of raping Margie Schoedinger, who was later suicided. Accused by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999. Neil Bush, brother or G. W. Bush, in a March 2003 divorce deposition, admitted repeatedly having sex with strange women who just showed up at his room while on an Asian business trip. (Overshadowing the sex scandal; the business scandal--see link.) How many women did Clinton score while in the WH? anyone?

Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
#

George W. Bush, Republican president, accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of raping Margie Schoedinger, who was later suicided. Accused by Tammy Phillips, a former stripper quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000 saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999.

Neil Bush, brother or G. W. Bush, in a March 2003 divorce deposition, admitted repeatedly having sex with strange women who just showed up at his room while on an Asian business trip. (Overshadowing the sex scandal; the business scandal–see link.)

]]> By: I.J. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045612 I.J. Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:06:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045612 I.J. you have carefully selected stories that TP posts. Use Google much? Huh? Never been here until today. And I didn't reference any stories in my post. I'm not sure what you are referring to. Sorry to bust your conspiracy theory. Next time, try focusing on the message. I.J. you have carefully selected stories that TP posts.

Use Google much?

Huh? Never been here until today. And I didn’t reference any stories in my post. I’m not sure what you are referring to. Sorry to bust your conspiracy theory.

Next time, try focusing on the message.

]]> By: Hank Essay http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045560 Hank Essay Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:53:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045560 Would that be a front door exit or a back door exit? Just wondering. Would that be a front door exit or a back door exit?

Just wondering.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045556 Bob Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:53:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045556 I.J. you have carefully selected stories that TP posts. Use Google much? I.J. you have carefully selected stories that TP posts.

Use Google much?

]]> By: Krazny http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045555 Krazny Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:52:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045555 Don't forget that all three scandals involving Kennedy, Franks, and Clinton were held up as ways not to be. Don’t forget that all three scandals involving Kennedy, Franks, and Clinton were held up as ways not to be.

]]> By: I.J. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045533 I.J. Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:46:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045533 Oh, as an aside to the whole values thing. You notice that you have to resort to Clinton, Barney Franks and Kennedy, whose scandals happened DECADES apart? Yet the distance between Republican sex scandals are best measured with a stopwatch. Oh, as an aside to the whole values thing. You notice that you have to resort to Clinton, Barney Franks and Kennedy, whose scandals happened DECADES apart?
Yet the distance between Republican sex scandals are best measured with a stopwatch.

]]> By: I.J. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045474 I.J. Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:33:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045474 See? Look at the posts since I posted. It's the same tired excuses. The same lame misproven claims. Equating the fact that we don't tar and feather people for who they sleep with to not having values. It's always those same four broken excuses. They can't help themselves...and that's why they'll eternally be "surpised" and "shocked" when people everyone knew was doing this kind of stuff get caught. Where were your family values when we decided to start torturing POWs? Where were your family values when you bombed abortion clinics? Where were your family values when you betrayed the country's national security and outed a CIA agent? Where were your family values when you swept Mark Foley's known behaviour under the carpet? And you don't expect us to believe you didn't know about Craig, do you? He's been accused of this stuff since 1982 and the guy he met with at the Union Station bathroom a couple years back, that you claimed just didn't happen, was a Republican insider who went unnamed. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Philistines. Don't point out the splinter in my eye when you have a log in yours. These sinners have a better chance of getting into my father's kingdom than you do? Does ANY of that sound familiar? Try reading the bible, as opposed to hitting people in the head with it, and this will happen to you a lot less. See? Look at the posts since I posted. It’s the same tired excuses.
The same lame misproven claims.
Equating the fact that we don’t tar and feather people for who they sleep with to not having values.
It’s always those same four broken excuses. They can’t help themselves…and that’s why they’ll eternally be “surpised” and “shocked” when people everyone knew was doing this kind of stuff get caught.
Where were your family values when we decided to start torturing POWs?
Where were your family values when you bombed abortion clinics?
Where were your family values when you betrayed the country’s national security and outed a CIA agent?
Where were your family values when you swept Mark Foley’s known behaviour under the carpet?
And you don’t expect us to believe you didn’t know about Craig, do you? He’s been accused of this stuff since 1982 and the guy he met with at the Union Station bathroom a couple years back, that you claimed just didn’t happen, was a Republican insider who went unnamed.
Don’t throw stones in glass houses. Philistines. Don’t point out the splinter in my eye when you have a log in yours. These sinners have a better chance of getting into my father’s kingdom than you do? Does ANY of that sound familiar?
Try reading the bible, as opposed to hitting people in the head with it, and this will happen to you a lot less.

]]> By: Arn Gunnutes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045463 Arn Gunnutes Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:32:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045463 <em>How many women did Clinton score while in the WH? anyone? Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007</em> <strong>Gee, do you think we could find out WHY "Jeff Gannon" stayed over 80 times at the White House, and didn't sign out. Given the FACT that he was a GAY PROSTITUTE begs the question as to WHO was using his services... Likely Bush... Also, with HYPOCRITES like David "Diaper and Dildo" Vitter, Larry "Lavatory Solicitation" Craig, and PEDOPHILE Mark Foley (all R's), Clinton's consensual affair with an ADULT FEMALE seems pretty NORMAL...</strong> How many women did Clinton score while in the WH? anyone?

Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007

Gee, do you think we could find out WHY “Jeff Gannon” stayed over 80 times at the White House, and didn’t sign out.

Given the FACT that he was a GAY PROSTITUTE begs the question as to WHO was using his services… Likely Bush…

Also, with HYPOCRITES like David “Diaper and Dildo” Vitter, Larry “Lavatory Solicitation” Craig, and PEDOPHILE Mark Foley (all R’s),

Clinton’s consensual affair with an ADULT FEMALE seems pretty NORMAL…

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045428 Bob Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:23:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045428 Right kraz:) Right kraz:)

]]> By: Krazny http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045405 Krazny Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:16:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045405 <em>How many women did Clinton score while in the WH? anyone? Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 2:14 pm</em> Here is what the wingtards are really pissed off about. Clinton scoring with chicks. It reminds them of their lonely desperate high school days, when their best girl, was their right hand. How many women did Clinton score while in the WH? anyone?

Comment by Bob — August 29, 2007 @ 2:14 pm

Here is what the wingtards are really pissed off about. Clinton scoring with chicks. It reminds them of their lonely desperate high school days, when their best girl, was their right hand.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045396 Bob Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:14:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045396 Bubba Clinton says (vows) publicly in front of wedding party guests, I promise to love and honor, cherish and "value" Hillary. Then commits adultery on multiple ocassions to show how much he “values” Hillary his loving and commited wifey poo. Family “values” WTF? Hypocrisy maybe? not according to a Libtardal brain How many women did Clinton score while in the WH? anyone? Bubba Clinton says (vows) publicly in front of wedding party guests,
I promise to love and honor, cherish and “value” Hillary.

Then commits adultery on multiple ocassions to show how much he “values” Hillary his loving and commited wifey poo.

Family “values” WTF?

Hypocrisy maybe? not according to a Libtardal brain

How many women did Clinton score while in the WH? anyone?

]]> By: Raven http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/comment-page-5/#comment-4045377 Raven Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:09:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/russert-craig/#comment-4045377 "Not to mention what is in that “man-sized safe” in Darth’s office! Now THAT is creepy!" Comment by upside00 Sniper rifles and rocket launchers are somewhat bulky, and have long barrels.... “Not to mention what is in that “man-sized safe” in Darth’s office! Now THAT is creepy!”

Comment by upside00

Sniper rifles and rocket launchers are somewhat bulky, and have long barrels….

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