Comments on: Tucker: I assaulted a man who ‘bothered’ me in a bathroom. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:50:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: CD http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4048465 CD Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:29:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4048465 It's sad to see how many people can't figure out that Tucker was victimized because they disagree with him politicaly. It’s sad to see how many people can’t figure out that Tucker was victimized because they disagree with him politicaly.

]]> By: Parrotlover77 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4047665 Parrotlover77 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:45:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4047665 I haven't travelled a whole lot, I admit, but I've been around some and I've <strong>never</strong> run into a public bathroom rapant with men trying to solicite sex from me (or anybody else for that matter). Why does this all just sound like some kind of projection thing that only repressed log cabin republicans run into, because, well, they are gay (or bi) and don't want to admit it? I haven’t travelled a whole lot, I admit, but I’ve been around some and I’ve never run into a public bathroom rapant with men trying to solicite sex from me (or anybody else for that matter). Why does this all just sound like some kind of projection thing that only repressed log cabin republicans run into, because, well, they are gay (or bi) and don’t want to admit it?

]]> By: c currey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4047607 c currey Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:27:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4047607 Tucker Carlson is full of bull IMO. I have been on the Earth 55 years and have never been sexually approached in any public bathroom. Hell, men hardly even talk in bathrooms. During high school the men's bathrooms were where boys fought and settled grievances, mostly over girls and not a place to get sex. Tucker Carlson is so full of it, it stinks. What he finds 'common' in men's room is more likely in his own creepy mind than reality. Most likely gay bathroom sex is confined to [re]publican closeted bisexuals, e.g. the [re]publican Senator from Idaho (Tucker Carlson?) et. al. Tucker Carlson is full of bull IMO. I have been on the Earth 55 years and have never been sexually approached in any public bathroom. Hell, men hardly even talk in bathrooms. During high school the men’s bathrooms were where boys fought and settled grievances, mostly over girls and not a place to get sex.

Tucker Carlson is so full of it, it stinks. What he finds ‘common’ in men’s room is more likely in his own creepy mind than reality. Most likely gay bathroom sex is confined to [re]publican closeted bisexuals, e.g. the [re]publican Senator from Idaho (Tucker Carlson?) et. al.

]]> By: Sandiegodan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4047493 Sandiegodan Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:54:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4047493 Who is that Tough Tucker "went back with" to beat the man up? Tucker should produce this "person" so the event can be investigated and corroborated. Perhaps the victim will come forward. Who is that Tough Tucker “went back with” to beat the man up? Tucker should produce this “person” so the event can be investigated and corroborated. Perhaps the victim will come forward.

]]> By: Thomas Mc http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4047459 Thomas Mc Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:43:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4047459 Give it up, Tucker. Nobody has EVER considered the possibility that you might be straight. And all this macho posturing only reinforces it. Repeat after Larry Craig, "I am not gay." Give it up, Tucker. Nobody has EVER considered the possibility that you might be straight. And all this macho posturing only reinforces it. Repeat after Larry Craig, “I am not gay.”

]]> By: Jamesb http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4047372 Jamesb Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:11:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4047372 to # 142, First off, it isn't clear exactly what age we're discussing here. You can say 12th grade, but “high school” in most states can constitute anyone in 9th through 12th grade, so while you can theorize that we're discussing a legal-adult-aged high school senior, we could also just as easily be discussing a 14 year old boy. Does it make a difference if we're talking about an 18 year old man as opposed to a 14 year old boy? Is it more acceptable to accost one versus the other? Second, in the update above it is explicitly stated that they went back and held the man until authorities arrived. This is appropriate behavior no matter how overly macho it is characterized in the retelling. Finally, we live in a civil society only as long as people respect the mutual civility we extend to one another. Once that compact is broken, all bets are off. Our laws exist only to remedy wrongs that have already occurred, so while you can believe that the legal system offers protection from vigilante justice, it doesn't. All it offers you is a possible recourse after the fact. Realizing that someone can still punch you in the face when you do something inappropriate to them is a much stronger social deterrent then any threat of legal recourse and if that fear of retaliation reminds people to act civil towards one another, it’s a good thing for everyone. to # 142,

First off, it isn’t clear exactly what age we’re discussing here. You can say 12th grade, but “high school” in most states can constitute anyone in 9th through 12th grade, so while you can theorize that we’re discussing a legal-adult-aged high school senior, we could also just as easily be discussing a 14 year old boy. Does it make a difference if we’re talking about an 18 year old man as opposed to a 14 year old boy? Is it more acceptable to accost one versus the other?

Second, in the update above it is explicitly stated that they went back and held the man until authorities arrived. This is appropriate behavior no matter how overly macho it is characterized in the retelling.

Finally, we live in a civil society only as long as people respect the mutual civility we extend to one another. Once that compact is broken, all bets are off. Our laws exist only to remedy wrongs that have already occurred, so while you can believe that the legal system offers protection from vigilante justice, it doesn’t. All it offers you is a possible recourse after the fact.

Realizing that someone can still punch you in the face when you do something inappropriate to them is a much stronger social deterrent then any threat of legal recourse and if that fear of retaliation reminds people to act civil towards one another, it’s a good thing for everyone.

]]> By: JefferyK http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4047371 JefferyK Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:11:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4047371 Going back to assault someone, 25 minutes later? Hmm. Going back to assault someone, 25 minutes later? Hmm.

]]> By: JSAer24 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4047219 JSAer24 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:14:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4047219 To #139 For me, at least, it's not endorsing the behavior that happened in the bathroom that is in question here. NO PERSON should assault another person either sexually or violently. It is the response that is in question. As I stated before it is odd that he (as a 12th grader) would not tell a person of authority, so that his attacker could be punished under our system of laws, but grab a friend (guess he could not rustle up a good mob) and GO BACK with the intention to take the law into their own hands and beat this guy. It is scary that the right both condone vigilante behavior and are against gun control...Welcome to the Wild, Wild, West. To #139

For me, at least, it’s not endorsing the behavior that happened in the bathroom that is in question here. NO PERSON should assault another person either sexually or violently. It is the response that is in question. As I stated before it is odd that he (as a 12th grader) would not tell a person of authority, so that his attacker could be punished under our system of laws, but grab a friend (guess he could not rustle up a good mob) and GO BACK with the intention to take the law into their own hands and beat this guy. It is scary that the right both condone vigilante behavior and are against gun control…Welcome to the Wild, Wild, West.

]]> By: LividLib http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4047037 LividLib Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:10:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4047037 relax, tuck! the guy was just a recruiter for Young Republicans relax, tuck!
the guy was just a recruiter for Young Republicans

]]> By: Dr. S http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046971 Dr. S Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:09:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046971 Se llama "damage control." Se llama “damage control.”

]]> By: J2 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046948 J2 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:50:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046948 Sorry, but I don't get it... Are we saying that it's alright for gay men to proposition straight men in a restroom, and then physically touch them? If a woman was accosted by a man wanting sex from her, and he physically touched her, this board would cheer for her if she slapped him unconscious, but a man is supposed to take such physical advances with what .... a smile and thank you? I'm frankly appauled by the idea that those who populate this board, with whom I mostly ideologically agree, would support and promote this kind of behavior. Anonymous bathroom sex is nothing for the gay community to be proud of, folks. It's crude, and in a case like Carlson's, it constitutes blatant sexual harassment. Sorry, but I don’t get it… Are we saying that it’s alright for gay men to proposition straight men in a restroom, and then physically touch them? If a woman was accosted by a man wanting sex from her, and he physically touched her, this board would cheer for her if she slapped him unconscious, but a man is supposed to take such physical advances with what …. a smile and thank you? I’m frankly appauled by the idea that those who populate this board, with whom I mostly ideologically agree, would support and promote this kind of behavior. Anonymous bathroom sex is nothing for the gay community to be proud of, folks. It’s crude, and in a case like Carlson’s, it constitutes blatant sexual harassment.

]]> By: James B http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046939 James B Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:37:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046939 Good for Tucker. People only feel comfortable assaulting others when there is no threat of a violent response. If this were a supposed case where a woman was assaulted by a man in a restroom and kicked him in the nuts in response, we'd all be cheering her. Sometimes a good ass whooping does solve a few minor problems. Good for Tucker. People only feel comfortable assaulting others when there is no threat of a violent response. If this were a supposed case where a woman was assaulted by a man in a restroom and kicked him in the nuts in response, we’d all be cheering her. Sometimes a good ass whooping does solve a few minor problems.

]]> By: Skiddlybop http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046932 Skiddlybop Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:54:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046932 Let's not forget, Little Tucker Carlson also laughed, repeatedly, at a little girl whose family dared to sue company over a a swimming-pool pump that almost killed her. http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Flh4H6M9yR4J:www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/15/182137/909+%22tucker+carlson%22+%2B+%22valerie+lakey%22+%2B+jacuzzi&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&ie=UTF-8 Let’s not forget, Little Tucker Carlson also laughed, repeatedly, at a little girl whose family dared to sue company over a a swimming-pool pump that almost killed her.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Flh4H6M9yR4J:www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/15/182137/909+%22tucker+carlson%22+%2B+%22valerie+lakey%22+%2B+jacuzzi&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&ie=UTF-8

]]> By: old hack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046922 old hack Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:16:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046922 being a person who frequently goes to the gayest city on earth I can attest for their being some pretty odd behavior in their some times. makes it hard to pee. being a person who frequently goes to the gayest city on earth I can attest for their being some pretty odd behavior in their some times. makes it hard to pee.

]]> By: G Whiz http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046909 G Whiz Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:56:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046909 Not buying it, Tucker. It's the gaydar thing...you've got gay. And Scarhead just had to bring up Clinton. This is exactly the issue the 'cons want us to focus on, while the Middle East comes to a boil. Not buying it, Tucker. It’s the gaydar thing…you’ve got gay.

And Scarhead just had to bring up Clinton.

This is exactly the issue the ‘cons want us to focus on, while the Middle East comes to a boil.

]]> By: Chris http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046825 Chris Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:32:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046825 gays can't keep their hands off of kids gays can’t keep their hands off of kids

]]> By: Bodhittsatva http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046779 Bodhittsatva Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:58:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046779 Was supposed to be bowtie Bravado man. Was supposed to be bowtie Bravado man.

]]> By: Bodhittsatva http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046777 Bodhittsatva Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:57:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046777 Hey fu(k you Bow-bravado man. The Left needs to embrace Craig, and show that a travesty of justice has been promulgated by overzealous police, who have entrapped him. DO NOT LET THIS STORY GO. The GOP wants him out to keep the scandals low (almost impossible to do, but with Rupert the windbag they are trying to buy every media outlet alive) but we need to crank up the volume over what happened in the bathroom. We also need to let him (Craig), and other “in the closet” GOPers know that we got their back. I hear the sound of squeaking closet doors all over Redstate USA. And remember, this gay GOP thing has been going on for years. http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm Comment by Bodhittsatva — August 29, 2007 @ 11:54 pm Hey fu(k you Bow-bravado man.
The Left needs to embrace Craig, and show that a travesty of justice has been promulgated by overzealous police, who have entrapped him. DO NOT LET THIS STORY GO. The GOP wants him out to keep the scandals low (almost impossible to do, but with Rupert the windbag they are trying to buy every media outlet alive) but we need to crank up the volume over what happened in the bathroom. We also need to let him (Craig), and other “in the closet” GOPers know that we got their back. I hear the sound of squeaking closet doors all over Redstate USA.

And remember, this gay GOP thing has been going on for years.
http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

Comment by Bodhittsatva — August 29, 2007 @ 11:54 pm

]]> By: JSAer24 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046772 JSAer24 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:49:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046772 I find it interesting that Tucker claims that he in NOT a homophobe, and yet after being assaulted in a public restroom by a man older than him he gets away and does not go to find the nearest policeman, he does not go to his parents, or any other authority figure nor is he just relieved he escaped...no, no, no...HE GOES BACK!...with the intention of taking the law into his own hands to ASSAULT the man with violence!!! Two wrongs DO NOT make a right. I find it interesting that Tucker claims that he in NOT a homophobe, and yet after being assaulted in a public restroom by a man older than him he gets away and does not go to find the nearest policeman, he does not go to his parents, or any other authority figure nor is he just relieved he escaped…no, no, no…HE GOES BACK!…with the intention of taking the law into his own hands to ASSAULT the man with violence!!!

Two wrongs DO NOT make a right.

]]> By: CD http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/comment-page-3/#comment-4046710 CD Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:07:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/29/tucker-i-assaulted-a-man-who-%e2%80%98bothered%e2%80%99-me-in-a-bathroom/#comment-4046710 No one here thinks it’s ok for a man to fondle kids in public bathroom right? No one here thinks it’s ok for a man to fondle kids in public bathroom right?

]]>