In two separate segments yesterday, Fox News attacked CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric for reporting from the ground in Iraq, calling it “a desperate move” and asking if it was a “ratings ploy or legitimate journalism.”
On Your World With Neil Cavuto, guest host Dagen McDowell featured Janice Crouse of Concerned Women for America, who characterized Couric’s trip as “a clear act of desperation” by a single mother whose “priorities [are] so determined by her ambition rather than her children’s welfare.” Crouse pointedly accused Couric of being a bad mother for going to cover Iraq:
I would say the same thing if this were a man journalist going out there, a male anchor, because when you look at the choice she’s making, she’s saying my ratings are more important than my children. That’s the bottom line.“
Later in the afternoon, The Big Story With John Gibson hosted New York Post columnist Linda Stasi, who called Couric’s trip “a desperate move” to gain “some sort of credibility.” “You know and I know that she doesn’t have to be there for the report,” said Stasi. Watch it:
During the Your World segment, law professor Susan Estrich came to the CBS anchor’s defense, noting that Couric is “a journalist” and that the war in Iraq is “a really important story” that hasn’t been covered “with the intensity it” deserves:
She’s a journalist. This is a war. It’s a really important story. It’s not like she’s going to camp out at Paris Hilton’s house. I mean the press has been criticized for not covering Iraq with the intensity it should. And really, that’s her decision.
In fact, Fox News is one of the biggest culprits of “not covering Iraq with the intensity it should.” As a recent Project for Excellence in Journalism study showed, the network consistently covers the war in Iraq roughly half as much as its rivals.
Fox has attacked journalists for covering Iraq too much. In February, John Gibson accused CNN’s Anderson Cooper of “news-guy snobbery” for his complaints that the death of Anna Nicole Smith was saturating the news when “there’s a war on.” Fox’s Bill O’Reilly has claimed “CNN and MSNBC are actually helping the terrorists by reporting” often on Iraq.
Good. Couric’s gonna have a chance to use those claws on Fox. She’s a big enough bee otch to go after them.
August 30th, 2007 at 1:55 pmKatie is cute in camo’s.
August 30th, 2007 at 1:55 pmAnother Fock Snooze Chauvanista Piggy Moment
August 30th, 2007 at 1:56 pmLeave to MSN/CBS to send a woman into a war zone.
August 30th, 2007 at 1:57 pmSignal mom….Isn’t Katie a widow????
August 30th, 2007 at 1:58 pmYes, it’s a desperate move on Couric’s part–but that doesn’t make it wrong. Go for it Katie. Maybe you’ll discover your missing credibility over there. Not too likely, however. I hear that they’re selling gravitas 5 for a dollar over in the market…
August 30th, 2007 at 1:59 pm“Fox News Bashes…Katie Couric”
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Actually, it was two different guests on Fox News, not a Fox anchor or host.
There is a difference.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:00 pmDoes that apply to the female soldiers with children as well? What’s the difference? Just wondering.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:00 pmRemaining S. Korean hostages freed
Taliban militants kidnapped 23 as they traveled to Kandahar on July 19
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TP SHAME ON YOU!
August 30th, 2007 at 2:00 pmNOT ONE NEWS STORY WHILE THIS WAS GOING ON!
So how does Fox feel about all those single military moms (and dads) serving in Iraq? Are they too bad parents?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:00 pmToo funny, a cable news network telling one of the big three networks how to do their job. And they think CBS runs a little dog and pony show and the Anchors get to decide by themselve what they’re going to do on the job. Dumbasses.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:00 pmUpdated: 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
August 30th, 2007 at 2:02 pmJANDA, Afghanistan - Taliban militants released the final three of 21 South Koreans they had been holding on Thursday, bringing to an end a six-week hostage drama, witnesses said.
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HERE IS SOME REAL NEWS!
Bob, why are you insulting all of the women service members currently in the war zone in Iraq? Are you saying women are incapable? Care to say that to the face of a female soldier?
It can be arranged. She’d have you eating liquids from a straw for 6 months.
Leave it to Bob to remind the world how ignorant bob is.
Thanks Bob.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:02 pmThey say Katie’s a bad mother for going to Iraq to “report” on the war. What does that say about all the mothers who are over there fighting the war, that they aren’t concerned about their children. Way to support the troops.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:03 pmWait a minute. I thought Iraq was “just like a market in Indiana” and everything was going great! I am sure Fox News told me that!
August 30th, 2007 at 2:03 pmI hope someone thinks to ask Crouse and Stasi what their opinion is of the parents who are in Iraq fighting the war! Good lord, what a bunch of idiots.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:04 pmJingo sez:
Are you denying that Dagen McDowell guest-hosted for Neil Cavuto?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:04 pmMr Pee/Bob, get back on your Ritalin. You have enough trouble making sense when you ARE on topic.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:05 pmHellinabucket sez:
I’d pay good money to see that show…
August 30th, 2007 at 2:05 pmHERE IS SOME REAL NEWS!
Comment by Bob — August 30, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
I can see you’re confused, constantly, but this IS NOT A NEWS SITE. It’s a blog. You go to news sites on line if you want ALL the news. And when you get a job here you can decide what stories to cover. Of course, all posters will be goine.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:05 pmShe is a JOURNALIST. Before she ever did “Today” she was a journalist in DC and she was very good at what she did.
Why are there no complaints about Martha Radditz of ABC who as been a single mother until recently? Martha has been countless times and wrote a book within the last year about her experiences.
This is so typical of Fox/Newscorp, create a phony story where there is none, and then toss in their hypocrisy.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:06 pmWhy does Fock Snooze and their ‘guests’ hate the female troops??
August 30th, 2007 at 2:06 pmwho is she up against at faux? that person must be pissed because she is whomping them in the ratings.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:06 pmFox Noise’s sexism is matched only by its racism. And they always find the black and female Toms to say just what the white man wants to hear. If a man in Couric’s position went to Iraq, it would have gotten no notice whatsoever by Fox.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:07 pmmore ‘Fair & Balanced’ Faux news reporting
August 30th, 2007 at 2:07 pmAugust 29, 2007
Hillary: Sending Katie Couric to Iraq ‘Too Little, Too Late’
Al-Qaeda News
(2007-08-29) — Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, today said that the decision by CBS to send Evening News anchor Katie Couric to Baghdad, Iraq, was a “desperate move†that she called “too little, too late.â€
“When what you’re doing isn’t working, you need to cut your losses and pull out,†said Sen. Clinton, noting that, “Almost a year into the Couric anchorage, CBS News has failed to unite any substantial group of viewers and the evening news landscape remains a hopeless quagmire of sectarian fighting.â€
CBS producer Rick Kaplan, however, said that sending a widowed, single mother of two young children into a war zone would “demonstrate that we mean business.â€
Mr. Kaplan called on Sen. Clinton to “allow the Couric surge plan time to work, rather than advocating a defeatist strategy of cut-and-run.â€
August 30th, 2007 at 2:08 pmSignal mom….Isn’t Katie a widow????
Comment by Tinfoil
Yes, Her husband Jay Monahan died in 1998, they had 2 daughters together.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:08 pmFaux Snewz at its worst.
Fox News just doesn’t a non-Fox reporter out there where they might say something bad about the war on the nightly news. After all, the current standard for credibility is actually being in Iraq, reporting from the ground.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:08 pmThey are doing their best to manufacture controversy so they don’t have to talk about Craig.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:09 pmFNC headlines:
1. We luv Preznit Bush!!! **waves flag**
2. Teh surj is AWESOME!!!**waves flag**
3. We luv Preznit Bush sum mor!!! **waves flag**
4. (sotto voce) It’s too dangerous for Couric to go to Baghdad.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:09 pmLooks like Bob cut and ran again.
TPM, I’d like to see it as well.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:09 pmAre you denying that Dagen McDowell guest-hosted for Neil Cavuto?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
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Dagen McDowell didn’t make the comments, her guest Janice Crouse did….and Dagen also had Susan Estrich on in the same segment to give offer an opposing view.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:10 pmHang on for just a damn minute. I thought everything in Iraq was peachy keen. Why does anybody care that Katie is going since she will be there for Disney Middle East opening day? I am confused are the trolls saying that it is dangerous to be in Iraq? I thought it was like a flea market in Indiana?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:13 pmI am confused are the trolls saying that it is dangerous to be in Iraq? I thought it was like a flea market in Indiana?
Comment by Spudge_Boy
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Yes, you are confused….I agree with that.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:14 pmDesperate career move? Arguably so, especially as she’s not a journalist in the sense of say Christiane Amanpour, of the 20.20 or 60-minutes crews or say everyone from the BBC or half the Washpo staff or LA- Times or NYT pr the Times-Picayune or Mclatchy etc, etc.
However…
“I would say the same thing if this were a man journalist going out there, a male anchor, because when you look at the choice she’s making, she’s saying my ratings are more important than my children. That’s the bottom line.“
Really? Well you ‘ve had plenty of opportunites to say so Dagen McDowell, but have you ever done so? In the past 5 years?
And if you simply haven;t had the chance, why don;t you list all the bad parents now? Mike Woodruff for one. How about George Bush? John McCain? Weren’t they desperately looking for “ratings” too?
FOX is so transperent. The most important war to them is not the one in Iraq ( now that its not working out as well as they hoped) but the domestic ratings war. Bill O’ may still be at the top of the heap, but the rest of them and ( their doppelgangers of style and content at CNN, MSNBC) are losing viewers and share.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:15 pmJingo sez:
I see. So the “news” story was: “Katie Couric: Bad Mother?”.
Yeah…real “fair and balanced” there, chief.
Just the sort of prejudgmental garbage I’d expect from On Your World with Neil Cavuto…nice to see that Dagen is upholding the Cavuto and FOX standard of journalistic non-integrity.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:16 pmRingo would know the particulars on Fox.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:17 pmJingo sez:
Can’t really address his question, can you?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:17 pmCan’t really address his question, can you?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 30, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
None of the rightards can. It’s always Run Away, Run away, like their coward-in-chief Boosh on 9/11.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:18 pmUN detects Iraqi chemical weapons in New York
Yeah, here we finally got something desperate!
August 30th, 2007 at 2:18 pmFOX should be shut down for deliberately lying about party affiliation of politicians they don’t like.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:19 pmFOX should be shut down for deliberately lying about party affiliation of politicians they don’t like.
Comment by Guido, OBGYN, Lover — August 30, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
Fox should be blown up for contributing to treason.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:20 pmWTF??? What planet is Fox reporting from these days??
URanus?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:21 pmHeck, I thought things were getting better and it was safe over there! I mean you can get 5 rugs for $5!
August 30th, 2007 at 2:23 pm“The samples were in weapons inspectors’ files dating back to the 1990s, but the substance is not believed to pose any immediate danger, U.N. officials said Thursday.”
So, I take it these are samples of the VX nerve gas we sold to Saddam? Every drug dealer gives samples.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:23 pmronjazz sez:
I disagree. FOX employees should be given a fair trial, and then placed in front of a firing squad.
I will continue to advocate legal methods of redressing our grievances as long as the option exists…but only as long as the option exists. If we are denied legal means of redress, it’s not difficult to figure out what means remain for us.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:24 pmI will continue to advocate legal methods of redressing our grievances as long as the option exists…but only as long as the option exists. If we are denied legal means of redress, it’s not difficult to figure out what means remain for us.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 30, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
I’ll bet that in the myriad “signing statements” by the Thief-In-Chief there is one that states blowing up a news outlet for treason is now legal.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:26 pmI’ve got nothing against Couric, but let’s face it: she’s a bingo caller, and a pretty good one, NOT a journalist as that term is commonly understood. Why Americans insist on calling their over-paid newsreaders ‘journalists’ is beyond me.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:27 pmFox should be blown up for contributing to treason.
Comment by ronjazz
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Are you serious?….or are you just using overblown hyperbole to sound radical?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:28 pmI didn’t really like Katie Couric much until this happened. Now I like her a lot better.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:32 pmFox News Bashes ‘Desperate,’ ‘Ambitious,’ ‘Single Mother’ Katie Couric For Traveling To Iraq
Whats the problem? I thought Iraq was all peaceful and quiet since the surge.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:33 pmronjazz sez:
Well, there is NSPD 51…
Add to this the fact that someone seems to think that the stock market is going to crash for some reason before September 21st, and you’ve got the makings of an “October Surprise” to end all October Surprises.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:33 pmSTFU Fox Snooze! Jesus you people are whiney little drama queens.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:33 pmFaux manipulates emotions, nothing more. They’re trolls.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pmI disagree. FOX employees should be given a fair trial, and then placed in front of a firing squad.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
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Which would be typical of how Leftist governments have treated dissenting viewpoints for the past 90, from from Lenin to Castro (and every other Marxist tyrant in between)….Even the Left’s latest poster boy, Hugo Chavez, has shut down all opposing news outlets in his country.
It’s no wonder you advocate such tactics.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:34 pmWell, excuuuuuuuse me, but what would Fox Schmooze know about “legitimate journalism”?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:35 pmHey, Jingo,
Spudge_Boy is still waiting for you to answer his earlier question.
Which is it? War-torn hell-hole, or Mall of America - Iraqi Branch?
(Hint: you can’t have it both ways…no matter how badly you might want it…)
August 30th, 2007 at 2:35 pmWell, we all know what this will lead to, more pandering to the fascist right by the cowering cowards at CBS. Katie will have as next weeks “freedom of speech” guests - Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter, Hannity and O’Reilly. This they will surmise will make up for being bad, bad liberals.
Beverely Lahaye, who started CWA, and her husband Tim both shill for Sun Myung Moon.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pmJingo sez:
So you don’t think FOX employees should be given a fair trial?
Do tell…
August 30th, 2007 at 2:36 pmHey, Jingo,
Spudge_Boy is still waiting for you to answer his earlier question.
Which is it? War-torn hell-hole, or Mall of America - Iraqi Branch?
(Hint: you can’t have it both ways…no matter how badly you might want it…)
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
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It’s a freaking war you mouth-breathing moron.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:37 pmYeah, Ringo…dont forget Wolfowitz buddy Suharto.
Millions of Indonesian killed.
Care to compare how many Castro and Chavez have killed combined with, say…Texas?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:38 pmWhy Americans insist on calling their over-paid newsreaders ‘journalists’ is beyond me.
I would agree with that so long as asshats like Cavuto, Gibson, Hannity, Limpballs, Beck and O’Reilly are also not called journalists or commentators. Let’s also call them what they are — opinionated, gingoistic, arrogant, ignorant gasbags.
As far as current and former legitimate news anchors are concerned, many of them do have journalistic credentials . . . Tom Brokow and Bob Woodruff, for example.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pmWhat they said is an opinion, not a fact. It’s an opinion I actually agree with (She is just desperate for ratings)… but they said it WAY WAY wrong.
I’m not excusing that in any way, I’m just saying Fox News in this case has an actually ok opinion with a crappy crappy reasoning.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:40 pmLeave Couric alone. She just wants to buy some of those cheap McCain rugs that are all the rage.
Besides, how can she get injured? Slipping on chocolates? Perhaps she’s allergic to all of those flowers that will be thrown at her feet.
-GSD
August 30th, 2007 at 2:42 pmCare to compare how many Castro and Chavez have killed combined with, say…Texas?
Comment by Juan C
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Castro and his henchman, Che, executed thousands of political rivals, ordinary citizens whos dared oppose Communism…and he also imprisoned thousands of homosexuals, Catholics and human-rights activists.
In Texas they execute murderers.
Are you capable of seeing a difference?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:43 pmRingo:
We good. You bad.
Right, Ringo.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:44 pmJaun C,
You are a moral retard.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:45 pmBTW, Ringo I want all your drivel (thousands of political rivals executed) supported by a link. Thank you.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pmYou are a moral retard.
Comment by Ringo
Uh, cornered again.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:46 pmIm off. Thermofluids class to teach.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pmYou are a moral retard.
Comment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Wingnut projection, what we can always count on…
August 30th, 2007 at 2:47 pmYou are a moral retard.
Comment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Wingnut projection and self loathing, what we can always count on…
August 30th, 2007 at 2:48 pmBUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT HERE IS THAT KATIE COURIC HAS MORE BALLS THAN ALL OF OUR TROLLS COMBINED.
You would think that our trolls like balls, since they talk about Clinton’s so much.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:48 pmWell isn’t this a very “desparate” and “ambitious” example of Fox News trying to distract from the fact that they don’t report on Iraq…
August 30th, 2007 at 2:48 pmIn Texas they execute murderers.
Are you capable of seeing a difference?
Comment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
That may be true, but they also execute innocent people - so what again is the difference?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pmIt’s a freaking war you mouth-breathing moron.
Comment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Then stop defending the fu*king right wingers that keep saying everything is peachy knuckle dragger.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:49 pmI hate Katie. I hope she gets blown to pieces.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:51 pmJingo sez:
Actually, no, it isn’t…Congress has yet to declare war, and even if they were inclined to, I can’t see them issuing a Declaration of War against “Terror”.
In fact, it’s not a “war” at all…a “war” requires at least two armies. This is an occupation of a foreign land, and unlike wars, you can’t “win” occupations.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:52 pm“I hate Katie. I hope she gets blown to pieces.”
I thought it was supposed to be the liberals that were the party of hate?
Boy, the trolls are confusing everything today.
August 30th, 2007 at 2:52 pmSpudge_Boy sez:
Walked right into that one, didn’t he? ^_^
August 30th, 2007 at 2:53 pmWhy is Fox making a big deal about Katie going to Iraq? I thought everything over there was made safe by the surge?!
August 30th, 2007 at 2:55 pmJaun C,
Read this book, if you dare: http://www.amazon.com/ Black-Book-Communism-Crimes-Repression/ dp/ 0674076087/ ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/ 102-5992094-6230547?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1188499634&sr=8-1
Here’s a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Human_rights_in_Cuba#Political_persecution
Why do always defend Castro and other tyrants of the Left?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:56 pmThat may be true, but they also execute innocent people - so what again is the difference?
Comment by RingoDingo
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Example please.
Link?
August 30th, 2007 at 2:57 pm“You are a moral retard.”
Comment by Ringo
I guess yesterday’s “TP, let’s be nice to trolls” blather didn’t take, eh
August 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pmWingo?
WNeil Cavuto, John Gibson and the gang at Fox grew hysterical about Couric leaving her children alone, they remained silent about 26 year old Michelle Ring and other single mothers fighting for the United States in Iraq.
For the details, see:
August 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pm“Fox News Attacks Couric Trip While Single Mother Soldiers Die in Iraq.”
the moment the subject changes to ‘journalism’, the program ends.
shocker!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pm———-
Just another selfish, idiotic, Feminist American Woman.
Living her life trying to imitate men.
Par for the course. Does any other type of woman exist in America today?
Nothing to see here folks.
Move along.
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August 30th, 2007 at 3:06 pmFunny, Couric is a fluffer for the white house anyway. I remember her saying on the today show before on interview with Bush about his “gut wrenching decision to go to war”. So know when she does what they don’t have the balls to do, she is a terrible person.
Whatever.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pmI guess yesterday’s “TP, let’s be nice to trolls†blather didn’t take, eh
Wingo?
Comment by Raven
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I guess not, considering that you were attacking me yesterday for owning a dog.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pmwhat does “mouth breathing” mean?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:09 pmDamn, dumb just knows no end.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pmThe US should leave Iraq so the Muslims kill each other!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pmFock Snooze Outraged at Single Women having Intercourse Outside Marriage!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pmFock Snooze Outraged at Single Women having Intercourse Outside Marriage!
Comment by RUCerious — August 30, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
I think they are just outraged about anyone having intercourse, might explain a lot of their behavior.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pmFOX news accusing someone of being an unprofessional journalist is really funny.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pmwhat does “mouth breathing†mean?
Comment by DRxJ
Someone who is too lazy or mentally challenged to close their mouth and breath through their nose like a civilized human.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:27 pmNow, why would this assignment be any different than any other assignment? Couric has been gone for weeks on end for other overseas assignments, such as the Olympics when she worked for NBC.
What Fox is not really saying is that Iraq is different because she faces the possiblity of being killed. Of course, if they admitted that, then they’d have to admit that Iraq is the clusterf**k that it is.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:31 pmWell, someone besides the Daily Show should do it.
By the way did these guys volunteer to go in her place?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:32 pmI watched the CBS Evening News and Entertainment Tonight last night — a full-hour of tabloid recaps. Yay!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:33 pmThe US should leave Iraq so the Muslims kill each other!
Comment by J-Hova — August 30, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
They already are. Hence the term sectarian violence, which is a synonym for civil war. Now your all up to speed and don’t have to act like an idiot anymore.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:36 pmComment by TripMaster Trollin’ — August 30, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Still waiting, TT…
August 30th, 2007 at 3:36 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — August 30, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
I made my statements, my observations.
Stop talking, you have no real questions to ask.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:41 pmBest way to protect your home is to have a large dog (or two) in the yard and a ‘beware of dog’ sign on your fence.
Comment by Ringo
It’s also a good way to let others know you are a fearful and cravenly coward who will thinks only of guarding his posessions!
Don’t fear, we’ll not come near.
Comment by Raven — August 29, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
It’s also a good way to let others know you are a fearful and cravenly coward who will thinks only of guarding his posessions!
Comment by Raven
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Huh?
Comment by Ringo — August 29, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
Sorry you (still) don’t get it…
(sic ‘em, Bingo…)
August 30th, 2007 at 3:42 pmTripMaster Trollin’ sez:
Then why do you continually make reference to me?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:43 pmCome on now folks, we’re talking FOX news here, they wouldn’t recognize a journalist from a gator wrestler.
Nothing funnier than Gibson of all people, a simpering bed-wetter who’s scared of his own shadow, commenting on the journalistic work of others.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:44 pmWhat’s the big deal? It’s no less safe than a market in Indiana, right? She’ll be home by dinner in one piece. Just ask Bob Woodruff. It’s perfectly safe. For commentators on Fox to criticize journalism or parenting is absolutely hilarious.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:45 pmI’m still trying too hard to look smart. Bear with me, fellow lefties.
Do you offer any leftist academic quotes to offer proof that you just posted in response to my naturally obtuse and parametrically retarded rambling with the obfuscation of theatrically nomadic constant ^_^ [bold] [italic] penmanship and novalistic die-versity loving America KKKarl BushCo criminal cabal koo-koo-koo-koo-doo-doo-cha-cha-cha?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:46 pmAre the Fox talking heads saying that, in fact, “it is soooooo dangerous to be in Iraq that anyone with a children/children should not even set foot in that country!”(?) Come on guys - if the “surge” is working so well - e.g., McCain can shop in the street - the congressman from Indiana says it’s like any weekend outdoor fair in Indy in the summer - etc., etc., - then why can’t American television anchors hang out there for a bit without being called “bad parents”? FOX - you can’t have it both ways.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:46 pmComment by TripMaster Munkey — August 30, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Every time you post using a derivative of my name, you validate me.
Do continue… ^_^
August 30th, 2007 at 3:48 pmMark sez:
Exactly…I tried telling Jingo this quite a few posts up.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:49 pmPredictably, he failed to understand.
wow! did FOX news just admit that things are dangerous in Iraq?
August 30th, 2007 at 4:04 pmwhat about all the GOOD NEWS????
Note that Fox does not object to the thousands of single mothers in the military who have had their tours extended from 12 to 15 months.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:09 pmwow! did FOX news just admit that things are dangerous in Iraq?
what about all the GOOD NEWS????
Comment by cage free brown
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You people are completely crazy.
No conservatives are saying - or have ever said - that Iraq is not a dangerous place.
You crackpots seem to believe every out-of-context quote or mis-represented headline that is spoonfed to you here at TP.
Lemmings, the lot of you.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:13 pm“Just another selfish, idiotic, Feminist American Woman.
Living her life trying to imitate men.
Par for the course. Does any other type of woman exist in America today?”
I guess you would rather all women wear Burkas and stay in the kitchen unless they leave with a male to escort them?
“Nothing to see here folks.
Move along.”
That part is true… I should have heeded the advice.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:19 pmHey, if the surge is working so well and things are so stabilized over there, why are those who are constantly singing that song so worried about Miss Katie’s safety?
August 30th, 2007 at 4:21 pmMyabe she just wanted to buy a few of those rugs we heard about
August 30th, 2007 at 4:21 pmChe was Chavez’ henchman? Either your are showing you have no concept the time lines of history nor understanding of the word henchman.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:23 pm“No conservatives are saying - or have ever said - that Iraq is not a dangerous place.”
Then exactly what goes on at those Indiana Farmer’s markets? I kinda want to go check them out, but I guess I shouldn’t since I also have a kid.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:23 pmChe was Chavez’ henchman? Either your are showing you have no concept the time lines of history nor understanding of the word henchman.
Comment by Mark
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Che was Castro’s henchman….Which is exactly what I said.
I’m sure that Chavez has his own henchmen.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:25 pm“Single mom with two children”?
August 30th, 2007 at 4:25 pmPerhaps “Widow with two children” may be more accurate.
I’n sure if Couric would cover Iraq while wearing pasties, a thong and stripper shoes, Pervert Cavuto would have her on as a guest on his “business” show.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:26 pmI see more desperation from Faux News if they have to resort to bashing people from competing networks.
Yes, Katie travels. It’s part of her job. If she had said “Oh, I can’t go to Iraq to do a story there because I’m a single mother” (and it’s not like she CHOSE to be a single mother; her husband died) — FN would have bashed her for that, probably by telling her she shouldn’t be in this line of work if she can’t carry her own weight, regardless of her family life.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:30 pmPretty much correct about the validation
And that’s the most anguishing part for those pathetic trolls, they have to use the same name, or recognizable derivative, of someone they so despise to make their easily-debunked points
These type of trolls are the equivalent of tribute bands and singers, you know, the kind who couldn’t succeed on their own merits/material, so they have to live someone else’s life and career to provide for themselves materially, Las Vegas-style, Fat, Caped Elvis impersonators immediately leap to mind here
Guess that’s why simple-minded trolls bleat, blather & screech their nonsense, they actually hope & believe their efforts will be rewarded by those they defend so vociferously
As if this Administration, its political enablers, lunatic neocon cheerleaders and media lackeys would ever let common troll rabble into their rarefied, gated society, not when the troll rabble are so easy to lead around by the nose
Excellent job getting under some loser troll’s skin to the extent you did TMM
August 30th, 2007 at 4:33 pmJust another selfish, idiotic, Feminist American Woman.
Living her life trying to imitate men.
Par for the course. Does any other type of woman exist in America today?
Comment by blanko — August 30, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
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Ah yes — another believer that humans are divided into two groups, women and people. And when women attempt to live like people, they are accused of trying to be men.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:34 pmComment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
The actual point of this thread is that Fox Entertainment, who has NO reporters in Iraq, is throwing stones at a network that IS sending someone over there, no matter who it might be.
If they would get some factual information from any source but the emails of BushCo, maybe they could figure out how the real world is seen by the 70% of the country.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:37 pmPar for the course. Does any other type of woman exist in America today?
Comment by blanko — August 30, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
Let’s hope not? I dig power chicks. Those mousy ones probably don’t even fight back when you beat them because of those dry porkchops.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:37 pmFox…is throwing stones at a network that IS sending someone over there, no matter who it might be.
Comment by upside00
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As I said before (see #7 & 31), it was guests on Fox that made these comments, not a news anchor. And they also had Susan Estrich on in the same segment to refute the comments and offer another opinion.
BTW - I’m think Katie should go to Iraq.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:42 pmPardon my typo.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:43 pm“Che was Castro’s henchman….Which is exactly what I said.”
Comment by Ringo
wrongo bongo, Bingo.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:46 pmChe left Castro when Fidel began to cozy up to the Soviets.
wow! did FOX news just admit that things are dangerous in Iraq?
what about all the GOOD NEWS????
Comment by cage free brown
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You people are completely crazy.
No conservatives are saying - or have ever said - that Iraq is not a dangerous place.
You crackpots seem to believe every out-of-context quote or mis-represented headline that is spoonfed to you here at TP.
Lemmings, the lot of you.
Comment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
Dude … come to the light … didn’t McCain say Baghdad was a great and safe place to shop and the other dingle berry equated the outdoor markets to Indiana in the summertime? Uh … aren’t McCain and the other douche bag …. conservatives?
Me thinks your pot is cracking …
August 30th, 2007 at 4:49 pmComment by KnowYourRights — August 30, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
Clash fan?
August 30th, 2007 at 4:51 pmChe left Castro when Fidel began to cozy up to the Soviets.
Comment by Raven
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Che personally carried out numerous executions for Fidel after Castro seized power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Human_rights_in_Cuba#Political_persecution
Buy this book and read it: http://www.amazon.com/ Black-Book-Communism-Crimes-Repression/ dp/ 0674076087/ ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/ 102-5992094-6230547?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1188499634&sr=8-1
August 30th, 2007 at 4:52 pmAhh, the waft of dingleberries which permeates the summer outdoor markets of Indiana…..
August 30th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by dbadass — August 30, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
You would be ABSOLUTELY correct!
August 30th, 2007 at 4:54 pmChe and executions in Cuba:
He was appointed commander of the La Cabaña Fortress prison, and during his five-month tenure in that post (January 2 through June 12, 1959),[28] he oversaw the trial and execution of many people, among whom were former Batista regime officials and members of the “Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities” (a unit of the secret police known by its Spanish acronym BRAC). José Vilasuso, an attorney who worked under Guevara at La Cabaña preparing indictments, said that these were lawless proceedings where “the facts were judged without any consideration to general juridical principles” and the findings were pre-determined by Guevara.[29][30] It is estimated that between 156 and 550 people were executed on Guevara’s extra-judicial orders during this time.[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara#Cuba
August 30th, 2007 at 4:56 pm…and the squeal of the matronly farmers wife as she cries
August 30th, 2007 at 4:56 pmBingo!
Raven,
Please seek help.
I mean it.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:57 pm“…former Batista regime officials and members of the “Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities†(a unit of the secret police known by its Spanish acronym BRAC).”
say no more
August 30th, 2007 at 4:58 pmPlease seek help.
I mean it.
Comment by Ringo
I had a long conversation with a shrink once, at the request of my soon to be ex-wife.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:00 pmThe upshot was that I did not need any “help”, as the doctor glanced out to the lobby…
Comment by KnowYourRights — August 30, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
Philadelphia 1983(?) Burning Spear opened. One of the best nights of my life!
August 30th, 2007 at 5:01 pmsay no more
Comment by Raven
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Anti-Communists eh?….Well then they deserve to die, right?…
You’re sick.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:05 pmI had a long conversation with a shrink once, at the request of my soon to be ex-wife.…
Comment by Raven
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You’re a man?
August 30th, 2007 at 5:06 pmI had a long conversation with a shrink once, at the request of my soon to be ex-wife.
The upshot was that I did not need any “helpâ€, as the doctor glanced out to the lobby…
Comment by Raven — August 30, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Doppelganger?
August 30th, 2007 at 5:07 pmAnti-Communists eh?….Well then they deserve to die, right?…
You’re sick.
Comment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
Batista was a dictator and Batista’s “secret police” were thugs — nothing so noble as “anti-communists”.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:09 pmShe’s just going shopping in the markets around the green zone. She saw the Indiana Congressman, Lindsay “cupcake” Graham and John McCain getting some good buys on rugs and sun glasses. After all, it’s just like an Indiana street fair, isn’t it?? Opps, I forgot about the 100 troops required to protect them. Kate, better call John McCain and get some pointers on shopping in Iraq.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:14 pmCare to compare how many Castro and Chavez have killed combined with, say…Texas?
Comment by Juan C
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Juan C
The C stands for Counter(of deaths).
What total count do you have for your side Juan vs the other side?
Is it 2 billion to 1 billion? You guys win cause you killed less?
Pancho Villa killed how many? 17
General Jorge Rafael Videla - 10,000 to 20,000 civilians killed
Brazil lots of poverty in cities and the countryside
Pinochet took over the government in a swift military coup which killed the President. He rounded up Allende supporters in the Popular Unity coalition in the soccer stadium, tortured and killed them.
El Salvador - Farabundo Marti National Liberation Movement (FMLN)
Guatamala - Mano Blanco
Mexico one word - peons
Nicaragua - General Anastasio Samoza - He and his family used their power to amass a family fortune.
Manuel Noriega - enough said
Che Guevara - violent murderer
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Latin America - shining example of Marxist dogma gone wrong.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:15 pmBatista was a dictator and Batista’s “secret police†were thugs — nothing so noble as “anti-communistsâ€.
Comment by gummitch
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I assume that you feel the average Cuban is better off today under Castros thugs, yes?
And summory excutions are fine with you I presume?
August 30th, 2007 at 5:16 pmComment by KnowYourRights — August 30, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
Philadelphia 1983(?) Burning Spear opened. One of the best nights of my life!
Comment by dbadass — August 30, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
I’m sure it was … unfortunately, at that time, I was really into metal and didn’t learn to appreciate the Clash until a few years later. I’m sure it must have been one kick-ass show though!
August 30th, 2007 at 5:16 pmDoppelganger?
Comment by dbadass
His, or mine?
;)
August 30th, 2007 at 5:18 pmYou’re a man?
Comment by Ringo
Duh
August 30th, 2007 at 5:18 pmAnti-Communists eh?….Well then they deserve to die, right?…
You’re sick.
Comment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
I’d like to take this opportunity to ask all of you nutters here at ThinkProgress to be a little bit nicer as well.
Comment by Ringo — August 29, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
August 30th, 2007 at 5:21 pmDuh
Comment by Raven
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Sorry, for some reason I just assumed you were a woman.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:21 pmHis, or mine?
;)
Comment by Raven — August 30, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
I was thinking you/me. That hour with Dr. Marvin Monroe was so much of a waste of time and the fish connection. Just wanted to make sure you weren’t me.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:22 pmSorry, for some reason I just assumed you were a woman.
Comment by Ringo
Not to worry, I’m not offended.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:24 pmNope, not you, mine was Doctor MaryLynn Monroe.
(”So long, and thanks for all the fish!”)
August 30th, 2007 at 5:26 pmDon’t worry, Faux News, everything will be alright.
Katie’s governess and other servants will take care of the children.
Everything will be JUST FINE!
August 30th, 2007 at 5:29 pmLeave it to Fox..They can’t make up their mind..They keep telling us how much progress and how safe Iraq is… But it is not safe for Katie..Thats Fox for us
August 30th, 2007 at 5:43 pmAnti-Communists eh?….Well then they deserve to die, right?…
Comment by Ringo
Oh, and, not to nit-pick or anything,
but let’s know these “anti-communists” for who they really were,
and not simply by the catchy phrase we were spoon fed by our government back in those days of the air raid drill and crouching under our school desks.
They (”anti-communists”) were corporate sponsored and funded (United Fruit, Chiquita)
August 30th, 2007 at 5:46 pmand CIA directed paramilitaries.
The brutal oppressors of indigenous peoples whom they exploited, terrorized and murdered.
All in the name of propping up a US supported dictator,
and the Almighty Dollar.
And you can fill in the blank with the name of any one of a dozen Latin American countries where this happened,
and is STILL happening today.
I’d like to take this opportunity to ask all of you nutters here at ThinkProgress to be a little bit nicer as well.
Comment by Ringo — August 29, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
Next up Ringo tells us how to win friends and influence people. =P
August 30th, 2007 at 5:46 pmRingo?
Ringo?
Hey, don’t go away mad…….
August 30th, 2007 at 5:50 pmI assume that you feel the average Cuban is better off today under Castros thugs, yes?
And summory excutions are fine with you I presume?
Comment by Ringo — August 30, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
Well, you know the old saw about “assume”, I hope. Because you just made a huge ass out of you.
Here’s a little lesson in logic, Ringo: “Batista was a dictator and his secret police were thugs” does not equal “Summary executions are fine.”
You really are a fool.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:59 pmLaura Logan has been there forever. What is the big deal? Couric is a celebrity. Logan is a journalist.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:02 pmI’d like to take this opportunity to ask all of you nutters here at ThinkProgress to be a little bit nicer as well.
Comment by Ringo — August 29, 2007 @ 12:16 pm
I don’t make friends with my enemies like Bush does. You are a traitor to this country and I will never be any nicer to you until you denounce your NeoCon masters. Until then, expect more of the same. Loser.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:23 pmJingo Fett,
Fox News is constantly giving platforms to “guests” who say the crap they want to say anyway. What’s the difference?
August 30th, 2007 at 6:35 pmJingo,
That’s not the way to get people to be nice. I wouldn’t walk into a country bar and shout “all you stupid rednecks should be nice to me”.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:36 pmRingo: “You people are completely crazy.
No conservatives are saying - or have ever said - that Iraq is not a dangerous place.”
Oh reeeaaaalllllllly???!!!!
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) told CNN that that President Bush’s escalation in Iraq is going so well, “General Petraeus goes out there almost every day in an unarmed humvee.†On Monday, he told radio host Bill Bennett that there “are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods, today.â€
August 30th, 2007 at 6:37 pmHmmmm..what about the single moms SERVING in Iraq?!
August 30th, 2007 at 6:39 pmI’m not surprised that the cowardly chickenhawks at Fox think it’s crazy for a journalist to go to Iraq, but what does Castro and Latin American communism got to do with this?
August 30th, 2007 at 6:40 pmAre the single mother soldiers who go the desperate too.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:41 pmJingo,
What about the Representative who took pictures somewhere in Europe, and said it was Baghdad?
August 30th, 2007 at 6:43 pmHello??? Ringo????
You called us crazy and said no conservative had ever said things were safe in Iraq. Your thoughts on McCain’s quotes above? Was McCain lying to the American people, then? He IS one or your guys’ presidential candidates. I would think that you would pay more attention to the things he has said.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:59 pmNeil Cavuto volunteered to go to Iraq to report from the Green Zone, but when he found out they didn’t have any bidets there he cancelled out.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:26 pmUSMC6002: “Laura Logan has been there forever.”
Lara Logan is simply nails! She is an awsome journalist. Brave, forthright, honest and no stupid smiling in the midst of a serious story. She’s what journalists used to be. I wish there were a lot more Lara Logan’s out there.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:32 pmCol. Jack,
Please try not to be a completely dishonest.
John McCain never said - even in your (most likely out of context) quote - that Iraq is a safe place.
There are some fairly less dangerous parts of Iraq. Christopher Hitchens took his son to Kurdistan this past Spring and traveled around freely. Michael J. Totten has also traveled in both southern Iraq and Kurdistan on his own
But everyone know that Iraq is dangerous, EVERYONE….And no one is pretending otherwise.
Try not to be stupid.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:34 pmWhat about the Representative who took pictures somewhere in Europe, and said it was Baghdad?
Comment by ForTruth
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Don’t know the story.
Got a link?
August 30th, 2007 at 7:35 pmI don’t make friends with my enemies like Bush does. You are a traitor to this country and I will never be any nicer to you until you denounce your NeoCon masters. Until then, expect more of the same. Loser.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
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Go screw yourself.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:37 pm“As a recent Project for Excellence in Journalism study showed, the network consistently covers the war in Iraq roughly half as much as its rivals.”
Matt, As this is a political blog, you might have covered the fact that in August the MSM has had 284 stories re: Dem Presidential cndidates and 175 on Republican candidates. Then again, noting the contempt the MSM has for Repubs, maybe we should thank them……
August 30th, 2007 at 8:02 pmWait…aren’t all the brainiacs at FOX Noise the ones telling the public that everything in Iraq is just lovely. The “surge” is working…violence is down..you can even walk around and go shopping. If that were true, then what difference does it make for Couric to go?
August 30th, 2007 at 8:09 pmWhat Fox said would make more sense if we were sending over single moms and single dads to fight in Iraq.
August 30th, 2007 at 8:40 pmThere are 150,000 other families that Fox should be more concerned about–the families of our troops. Is every soldier an irresponsible parent, son, or daughter for going to Iraq?
This goes to show that Fox only focuses on sensationalism, not journalism.
August 30th, 2007 at 8:59 pmDoes anyone take Fox seriously? Come on folks, its not news, its opinion.,
August 30th, 2007 at 9:03 pmHow many single mothers are serving in the U.S. military over in Iraq?
How many single mothers are working for private contractor security companies over in Iraq?
How many single mothers were employed at the CPA in Baghdad?
And how many single mothers are currently working for some U.S. agency in the Green Zone in Baghdad?
In other words, the attack dogs at Fixed Noise can always be depended upon to come up with further proof of how insane they really are.
Katie Couric is just doing her job as a journalist, which I know the Faux News people have a hard time grasping since all of them at Pox News are just partisan “talking points” political hacks instead of true journalists.