NY Post uses gay stereotypes to cover Craig.
By on Aug 30th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
NY Post uses gay stereotypes to cover Craig.
As part of its coverage of Sen. Larry Craig’s (R-ID) arrest for “lewd conduct” in an airport bathroom, the tabloid-y New York Post posted a sidebar questionnaire on its website today asking “are you a gay Senator?” The questions are filled with gay stereotypes like “do you sing showtunes in the car between political events?” and “did you quit the ‘Singing Senators’ because the bow ties didn’t match the seersucker suits?”
As New York magazine’s Daily Intelligencer blog points out, the Post has a history of homophobia, using “archaic adjectives like ’swishy’ and ‘limp-wristed’ to describe gay subjects” and featuring a cartoonist who draws homosexual characters “with exaggerated lips and eyelashes, and one leg kicked flamboyantly upward.”
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Honestly, I know a few gay guys who would find this completely funny. I am sorry the NYT chooses to use stereotypes, but c’mon this is funny.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pmSorry NY post my bad.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:03 pmNY Post, not Times. Isn’t that the Murdoch rag?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pmI would like to see the media cover what a hypocrite Craig is…maybe look at his voting record instead of using this scandal to do what they always do – slam all gays. There is a difference of being gay and being a pervert… the Grand Old Perverts must know that by now.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:10 pmNY Post? Isn’t that some kind of supermarket tabloid?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:11 pmCool.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pm” I DO NOT sing show tunes in the car between political events!”
“The NY Post is engaged in a witch hunt against me!”
“The stress of their assault is making me want to strip naked and run through the halls of Congress!!”
August 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pmI’m gay and I think it’s hilarious. I’m not that familiar with the NY Post or any of their supposed homophobic past. But I thought their sidebar questionnaire was humorous, well-written, and appropriate, given the subject. Seems much more anti-Republican-hypocrisy than anti-gay.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:12 pmWhat about:
Do you promote family values and make it the central issue in your political re-election campaigns and do you oppose gay rights legislation at every single opportunity?
That might be a surer sign for Republicans in the closet.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:13 pmIn todays America Muslims and Gays can’t be made fun of of!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:13 pmOnly Hispanics, Italians, Catholics Rednecks, Evangelicals and Real Jews can be insulted and made fun of!
Hillary is a man therefore its impossible to have had a lesbian affair with him. Ever see those legs or wonder why he wears thos Mao suits all the time?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:14 pmI’m pretty sensitive to stereotypes, but each of these questions appears to be aimed specifically at Craig, as he fits each of them.
The questionnaire seems more a parody of Craig than a gay slur.
Craig’s nickname at his fraternity WAS Mother Craig, for example.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pmJeez, what the Post said iss no worse than any episode of Will and Grace. Lighten up.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pmI’m sorry, but I thought this one was funny.
Reminds me of the “exploring one’s masculinity” self-help tape in In and Out. ^_^
August 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pmIn todays America Muslims and Gays can’t be made fun of of!
You must not live in the same America I am in. Disrespecting gays and Muslis is the status qou here.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:15 pmNY Post? Isn’t that some kind of supermarket tabloid?
Comment by Dan — August 30, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
You mean, like Katie Couric’s presentation of the once-acclaimed CBS Evening News?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pmThe Left needs a sence of humor.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pmOh I forgot only Muslims and Gays can’t be mocked!
Sorry!
LOL, good humor! Relax a bit and enjoy the non-PC humor while you can, it will be gone soon enough the way the country is moving now.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:16 pm“… can be insulted and made fun of!”
Comment by J-Hova
…and a fake God…..
August 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pmComment by TripMaster Trollin’ — August 30, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
Hey TT, we’re still waiting for your answers back on the “on the road” thread.
Chop-chop.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pmOh, I forgot…
^_^
August 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pmcan be insulted and made fun of!
Comment by J-Hova — August 30, 2007
and fake Latinos.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pmSpudge_Boy,
August 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pmMuslims and Gays are protected in American socity.
They are portrayed as good in movies and in the news.
Hispanics, Italians, Rednecks, Evangleicals, Catholic, and Real Jews are allowed to be insulted and mocked
Ill give some of you straight-faced sensitive types something to flame me over:
What do you call an infant being raised by a homosexual couple?
A Gaby.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:18 pmThe questionnaire seems more a parody of Craig than a gay slur.
Craig’s nickname at his fraternity WAS Mother Craig, for example.
Comment by troqua
I got that whoever created the list did their homework on Craig.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:20 pmQuestion: did he really sing show tunes?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 30, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
Yo, Monkey. Even your questions are irrelevant and insufficient.
You have nothing new to offer. I made my points, so your nutty lefty academia questions are, again, irrelevant.
Chop-chop your banana into small pieces, because you’re too much of a nim-wit to hold it all at once.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:21 pmtroqua,
August 30th, 2007 at 3:21 pmYou so unLatino falso?
Expique como hablo Espanol y entiendo Portuguese y Italiano?
Tu eres un Anglo-Barbaro salvaje.
Tu sabes nada de la Cultura Latina.
To no me conosca y te pongo en tu sitio maldito rasista!
being a resident of the castro, i find this somewhat amusing as well….
the use of the word ’stereotype’ is, in itself, getting pretty tiring. how else are we supposed to make sense of a Type of person, or group of people? through demonstrable actions, behaviors, appearances, etc.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:21 pmWhat do you call an infant being raised by Republicans?
HeYYYYYOOOoooooooooOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOoooo
August 30th, 2007 at 3:22 pm#22 – “and fake Latinos.” Comment by troqua — August 30, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
Careful, Troqua! Mc Puta will cry that you’re responsible for him being a failure, rather than taking responsibility for his own actions!
Typical neo-con behavior: blaming others for their own actions (or lack thereof).
August 30th, 2007 at 3:22 pmYou so unLatino falso?
Expique como hablo Espanol y entiendo Portuguese y Italiano?
Tu eres un Anglo-Barbaro salvaje.
Tu sabes nada de la Cultura Latina.
To no me conosca y te pongo en tu sitio maldito rasista!
Comment by J-Hova — August 30, 2007
Congratulations on your mastery of Babel Fish.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:23 pmThe NY Post isn’t better than toilet paper.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:23 pmMc Puta will cry that you’re responsible for him being a failure,
So why do I make $65,000 a year an an Information Security Analyst in the Latin American division for my bank?
Explain fake soldier?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:23 pmI have a great sense of humor. This does have some elements of humor. It is very funny to see how the republicans eat their own. It’s also funny to see the hypocrisy in vilifying Craig while Vitter’s actions are put back into the closet.
The truth of the matter is Craig pled guilty. Not whether he’s gay or not. That’s another sadly funny point. It’s the right that is making this story stay in the news.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:23 pmtroqua,
August 30th, 2007 at 3:24 pmYou’re lucky this is the blogospher you little White Anglo piece of Shit!
The Left needs a sence of humor.
Oh I forgot only Muslims and Gays can’t be mocked!
Sorry!
Comment by J-Hova —
The left has a very keen sense of humor…you can hear it from: Randi Rhodes, Ray Taliaferro, Bernie Ward, Thom Hartman, Mike Malloy, Rachael Madaw, Sam Seder, Jon Elliot….
August 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pmLook folks, this is just stupid.
Craig is guilty of only two things: Public disturbance, and being a HUGE target for ridicule.
Ethics investgations are stupid. Gay rights activists jumping all over anyone who is or isn’t the correct flavor of PC is stupid. Hannity’s drunken macho frat boy stories are stupid. You, TP, have been caught being stupid also.
This is a source for humor. The man is getting his proper judgement, in a majorly-homophobic court of public opinion. He’s earned himself the John Rockeresque punching bag award and gets to take it from all sides.
Everything else is in your imagination. Relax, have a soda, and put down the clicker.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pmTripMaster Trollin’ sez:
Translation: “I’m not up to answering them, as that would require some independent thought on my part, which makes my head hurt.”
Message received, TT…loud and clear.
Tell me this: if I’m so ‘irrelevant’, why do you feel it necessary to troll the board with a derivative of my name? Hmm?
And by the way, if you’re gonna do the monkey smiley, do it right.
^_^
(I know…that darned attention to detail again…)
August 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pmWhile gays are typically very willing to laugh at their own stereotypes, one has to admit the NY Posts behavior is a quite inappropriate.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pm#24 – Actually, as a gay veteran, I’m not that sensitive over people making silly jokes. I think your joke wasn’t too bad at all!
How about this one:
Q: What’s the difference between a ’straight’ guy and a ‘curious bi-sexual’ guy?
A: About a six-pack of beer.
As someone who’s had to push drunk ’straight’ guys away when they wanted to ‘play’, it’s rather funny. Sad, but funny!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pm“…this is the blogospher…”
Hope you don’t mind, fake God dude, but I’m going to snag your typo and make some use out of it.. cool?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:27 pmhad enough ,
August 30th, 2007 at 3:27 pmNo they don’t.
If you make fun of Gays and Muslims they go crazy!
#35 – Comment by had enough — August 30, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
Don’t forget Ed Schultz! He’s great!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:27 pmDemocrat Soldier,
August 30th, 2007 at 3:28 pmYou’re no Vetran you phoney!
C’mon TP, have a little fun. From Leno:
“Sen. Craig is married. Apparently he told his wife, don’t worry about having dinner ready to me. I’m going to wolf down a hot dog at the airport.”
August 30th, 2007 at 3:29 pmDemocrat Soldier sez:
Heh heh…been there myself, DS. Ah, college…
I found that trying to explain why what they’re proposing would look like a very bad idea in the morning doesn’t seem to work…best bet is to smile, excuse yourself for a moment, and remove yourself physically from the situation.
Of course, when it happens in your own room, following that advice can be inconvenient… ^_^
August 30th, 2007 at 3:33 pm#43 – “You’re no Vetran you phoney!” Comment by Felipe II Hapsburgo — August 30, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Served honorably from 1984-1990
Basic Training at Ft. Leonardwood, Missouri: Bravo company, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Brigade.
AIT at Ft. Benjamin Harris, Indianapolis, Indiana: MOS – 74D.
Spent my four years with the Comand and Control Support Agency at the Pentagon, MF741C.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:33 pmDid his frat brothers really call him “Mother”?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:33 pmFalse News in print has stooped to a new low.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:33 pmQuestion: did he really sing show tunes?
Comment by Raven — August 30, 2007
Gospel and patriotic songs, with high kicks. :P
August 30th, 2007 at 3:35 pm“Can I get someone here to write a report for me?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:35 pmIt’s due in a couple of weeks, and I don’t know what to say…
I can get you all the beer and pizza you want, guns are a little harder to come by, but I’ll see what I can do…..”
Democrat Soldier,
You’re no Vetran you phoney!
Comment by Felipe II Hapsburgo — August 30, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Priceless!
Can’t even spell V E T E R A N, and goes under the moniker of some obscure european royalty, and calls one of us a phony.
Laughable, but pathetic.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:36 pmThis is the New York MAGAZINE, not the New York POST … or is there something I don’t know, are they the same thing?
This doesn’t absolve the New York Post from still being a joke.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:36 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — August 30, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
M’kay, Monkey. We all know you to be the monkey who tries a little too hard.
Translation of the Monkey’s words: Chimp. Chimp. Chimp.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:36 pmNY Post used historical facts at least 3 of the 6 questions listed above. It’s a shot at Craig but Craig put himself in that position.
Stopped myself from writing “position” jokes. I’m sure this whole Thing will just blow over.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:36 pmYes they called him Mother Craig.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
#46 – Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 30, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Never had anyone try it in my room at the baracks! It was always outside after many drinks had been downed, and away from everyone else. it usually began with “Well, I’ve never tried anything like this, but. . . .”
Generally, my response was “Sorry, dude, I’m not in the mood.” The next few days, they generally avoided me. I guess they realized how it all sounded and didn’t want me to “rub it in their face” so to speak. I never did anything like that. I figured they were just being really drunk.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:37 pm“Gospel and patriotic songs, with high kicks. :P”
That would explain the limo with the tinted windows…… :)
August 30th, 2007 at 3:37 pmthe Gross Old Perverts must know that by now.
Comment by had enough
There fixed it for ya, hehe.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:38 pmNo they don’t.
If you make fun of Gays and Muslims they go crazy!
Comment by Felipe II
So, in your mind one has to be prejudiced towards gays and Muslims, make jokes concerning this in order to have a sense of humor?
Very weird.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:38 pmDemoKKK-Rat Veteranarian,
“Served honorably from 1984-1990
Basic Training at Ft. Leonardwood, Missouri: Bravo company, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Brigade.
AIT at Ft. Benjamin Harris, Indianapolis, Indiana: MOS – 74D.
Spent my four years with the Comand and Control Support Agency at the Pentagon, MF741C.”
Yeah right you liar!
You google that you fake fraud!
You’re a Muslim loving Commie!
I’m gonna look up your info.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:39 pmI have connections phoney fake!
Spudge_Boy,
Muslims and Gays are protected in American socity.
They are portrayed as good in movies and in the news.
Hispanics, Italians, Rednecks, Evangleicals, Catholic, and Real Jews are allowed to be insulted and mocked
Comment by J-Hova — August 30, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
It doesn’t matter if you address the same exact comment directly to me. It doesn’t mean it is any less a bullsh!t statement by a bigotted racist a$$hole.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:39 pmGay people suck!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:40 pmTripMaster Trollin’ sez:
Not that I try all that hard, but I’d rather try too hard than not hard enough, as seems to be *your* modus operandi.
By the way, in addition to all the questions you ran away from on the “on the road” thread, you also haven’t answered the question I put to you in this thread. I’ll repost it to save you wear and tear on your scroll wheel:
Tell me this: if I’m so ‘irrelevant’, why do you feel it necessary to troll the board with a derivative of my name? Hmm?
Inquiring minds want to know.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:40 pmtroqua,
You’re lucky this is the blogospher you little White Anglo piece of Shit!
Comment by J-Hova — August 30, 2007
Now now. Temper, temper. I find online threats to be amusing, but let me assure you, this grandma could squash you like a cucaracha, chico. Now, go play with your Mr. Pee Pee and let the adults chat.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:41 pmJ-hova aka Joker you are sooooo stupid and racist that it really amazes me that they don’t ban your new name as soon as you post. You should read what you post, you are an idiot, ok let’s all get that straight, YOU ARE A RACIST IDIOT.
Please people ignore that IDIOT…he does this crap of hijacking threads with his racist crap all the time. Just don’t respond to him, you can laugh at his posts, just don’t respond to them.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:41 pmCmon,,,, when the post has a laugh about the GAY lifestyle,,, it shows they are more or less accepting….
The fact that they would not do such a thing regarding PEDOPHILES (another group pining for rights) shows where they truely have BIGOTRY pointed.
Accepting HOMOSEXUALS and not PEDOPHILES,,,, who do they think they are…..
August 30th, 2007 at 3:42 pmignore Felipe II Hapsburgo/j-hove/latinking/whatever. it will hijack this thread like it did the gonzo thread eairler today. It will call you a racist, a phoney, etc. it will make stupid claims about how lefties are enslaving the latin race, it will say anything to derail the thread. don’t let it happen here and elsewhere. just ignore it.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:42 pmBuck Fush,
August 30th, 2007 at 3:42 pmYou’re racist against Latins you jerk.
You hate Latins that don’t bow to your unclean Barbaric Anglo-Saxon kind!
Gays are Pedophiles!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:43 pmthe Gross Old Perverts must know that by now.
Comment by had enough
There fixed it for ya, hehe.
Comment by Buck Fush
Thanks… the best phrase yet.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:43 pmSorry you ass wipe Joker…I am native american and my son in law is hispanic….you are the racist fu(k, jerk.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:44 pmPLEASE,,,, this paper showing the funny side is accepting the GAY lifestyle….. just a laugh ehhh.
The fact they would not do this on a PEDOPHILE (another group pining for rights) shows where they have thier true BIGOTRY.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:45 pm“it will make stupid claims about how lefties are enslaving the latin race”
The Leftists are racist.
Look at how Hispanics in NY and LA are 2nd class citizens.
look at how they brainwashed Italians into thinking their Anglos!
It’s the truth and it bothers you I expose it!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:45 pmignore it buck, ignore it.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:46 pmI am native american
We kicked you Azteca and Incan brothers asses!
Ha ha ha ha!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:46 pmtest
August 30th, 2007 at 3:47 pmWhy are Gays Pedophiles?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:47 pm#69 – “unclean Barbaric Anglo-Saxon kind!” Comment by J-Hova — August 30, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
Mc Puta is a racist! He’s proven it with his racist words!
Mc Puta is a racist!
Mc Puta is a racist!!!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:47 pm“Why are Gays Pedophiles?
Comment by Kyle”
because meese is a troll?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:48 pmI expose it!
Comment by J-Hova — August 30, 2007
and it’s still just little teeny pee-pee. Sorry.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“Ha ha ha ha!”
Comment by J-Hova
with your germs…
August 30th, 2007 at 3:49 pmOh great, now he’s native American, which is also Latino, yanno.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:49 pmYou’re right Bobwurst, I forgot my own advice there…Cherokee by the way.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:49 pmI see many of you want to IGNORE comments in this you don’t like….
Your getting pretty good at it…..
You also ignore the process of society being made to recognize RIGHTS…. it’s OK that JUDGES make that decision for HOMOSEXUALS…. yep,,,
Then be prepared for the next RIGHTS TRAIN of PEDOPHILES,,,,, consent or the definition of adult is no more difficult for JUDGES to change for PEDOPHILES than sodomy, marriage, and adoption is currently for HOMOSEXUALS…
IGNORE THAT PLEASE
August 30th, 2007 at 3:51 pmDemocrat Soldier and all you other Stalinist Muslim love traitors.
I’m out.
LATIN POWER!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:51 pmOne God, One empire!
Corazon del RAY!
Almighty Latin Kings and queens Nations 4 Ever!
Why is the Republican party the party of the pedophile?
Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
August 30th, 2007 at 3:51 pmThey are Gay Pedophiles like all Fags!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:52 pmWhy are Gays Pedophiles?
Comment by Kyle — August 30, 2007 @ 3:47 pm
For the same reason Republicans are.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:52 pmOnly Hispanics, Italians, Catholics Rednecks, Evangelicals and Real Jews can be insulted and made fun of!
Comment by J-Hova — August 30, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Actually, wingnuts and rightards of all persuasions a gair game, since they vote against their own interests and are obviously out of touch with mainstream Americans.
August 30th, 2007 at 3:53 pmdim wit,
August 30th, 2007 at 3:53 pmSo only Republican are pedophiles or Just Gay Republicans?
“Almighty Latin queens”
Looks like the racist Mc Puta is gayer than Sen. Craig!
Tap, tap, tap. Is that paper on the floor? No? I guess it’s the racist Mc Puta giving the ’signal’ that he’s ready for action!
August 30th, 2007 at 3:54 pmRonjazz,
August 30th, 2007 at 3:54 pmare a gay Pedophile?
Hey demo soldier,,,,
Those REPUBLICAN dudes are PEDOPHILES for the same reason Barney FRANK wants GAY MARRIAGE,,,,
A JUDGE either told them this is a right,, or for PEDOPHILES and the REPUBLICs they jumped the gun a little early,,,, Judges won’t make that legal for a few years yet,,,, probably 30 based on the progress of GAY rights.
Gotta love the Judges abilities ehhhh
August 30th, 2007 at 3:57 pmdim wit,
So only Republican are pedophiles or Just Gay Republicans?
Comment by Kyle — August 30, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
I am not a Republican. I cannot answer if all of you are pedophiles are not.
BTW, what is a Just Gay Republican?
August 30th, 2007 at 3:58 pmDon’t know about you,,,, but I just really get excited about the RIGHTS of pedophiles, incests, polygamists, necrophillias, bestials, etc,,,, all following the path of gay rights and JUDGES making it happen,,,,
And you thought the Gay Pride Parade was cool…..
HAHHH,,, the NECROPHILIA/BESTIAL Pride Parade will put the one’s you see today,,,, TOO SHAME
August 30th, 2007 at 4:02 pmRonjazz,
are a gay Pedophile?
Comment by ronjazz is a Fag — August 30, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
I are? You is one stupid shit-for-brains, that’s all you’ve proven.
I can’t wait until school starts again, send these clowns back for their third try at fourth grade. Wingnuts, the bane of American progress.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:03 pm#94 – “PEDOPHILES and the REPUBLICs they jumped the gun a little early” Comment by scooter — August 30, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
Naw, I’m sure there willl be a cure for pedophiles well before they find a cure for Republicanism. Mostly it’s because there are some deluded people that think being a Republican is an ‘acceptable lifestyle’.
Nobody thinks being a pedophile is acceptable. Except maybe closeted Republicans.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:03 pmYet another week or two of turning off the news when the kiddos enter the room because every other report is about gay behavior. Ah, the joys of living in a liberal society! ;)
August 30th, 2007 at 4:04 pmNobody thinks being a pedophile is acceptable. Except maybe closeted Republicans.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — August 30, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Scooter seems very happy with it. I see he fits the category.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:04 pmI’m amazed. Are there really people out there who truly believe that being gay is just a step on some mandatory path to necrophilia or bestiality? How sadly ignorant.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:05 pmComment by Wayne A. Schneider — August 30, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
All are deviant. ;)
August 30th, 2007 at 4:07 pmYet another week or two of turning off the news when the kiddos enter the room because every other report is about gay behavior. Ah, the joys of living in a liberal society! ;)
Comment by upright left — August 30, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
just block FOX, it’s the Republicans who are doing the gay and pedophile dances. Dems don’t hide their homosexuality, and don’t do kids. Get with the libs, and your kids will be safer. And less ignorant than you.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:07 pm#96 – Comment by scooter — August 30, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Ahh! I see! You really ARE a Republican! Only Republicans think of bestiality when they think of gay people. It must be because of their perverted thought processes and their obsession with having sex with animals.
By the way, the majority of pedophiles are heterosexual. If you were truly worried about pedophiles, you would know that. Since you don’t, it proves you’re just swigging the kool-aide.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:07 pmit proves you’re just swigging the kool-aide.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — August 30, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Scooter is projecting, since he’s a gay goat-lover, he thinks everybody is.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:09 pmComment by ronjazz — August 30, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Oh, ronnie, I didn’t realize that it mattered what party the deviant belongs to when it comes to screwing up kids. I’d like to see the evidence all child molestors are Republicans, too. See, I always thought sleaze is sleaze no matter the ideology. ;)
August 30th, 2007 at 4:13 pmBy the way, the majority of pedophiles are heterosexual. If you were truly worried about pedophiles, you would know that. Since you don’t, it proves you’re just swigging the kool-aide.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — August 30, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
It’s not heterosexuals moms have to worry about when sending their boys into public restrooms. ;)
August 30th, 2007 at 4:14 pmQuestion # 7
Does your Mom have to take you with her into the ladies restroom?
August 30th, 2007 at 4:17 pmDem soldier,,,,
If i am a pedophile and I want to practise my sexuality,,, are you OK with it if a JUDGE tells you it’s OK…
If a JUDGE says SCOOTER has rights and the age of CONSENT is now 10….
Would ya be KAPICH?
If not how is that different than the process of GAY rights?
August 30th, 2007 at 4:29 pmYeah right you liar!
You google that you fake fraud!
You’re a Muslim loving Commie!
I’m gonna look up your info.
I have connections phoney fake!
Comment by Felipe II Hapsburgo — August 30, 2007 @ 3:39 pm
See how our little toy troll, mr. p is SOOO jealous of anyone that has served that he can’t stand it. Has to throw a tantrum and check his shorts to see where his balls are supposed to be.
How sad his life must be!
August 30th, 2007 at 4:30 pmronnie,,, if i love goats,,,, what do you care? I’m born that way. I’m not hurting others,,,, don’t tell me the goat does not give CONSENT,,,, I can eat the dumb thing can’t I? What consent does the goat give to being eaten?
August 30th, 2007 at 4:32 pmEveryone,,,, should hope that Judges give everyone thier RIGHTS sooner rather than later….
I’m talkin,,,,, pedophiles, bestials, incests, polygamists, necrophilias, etc….
The reason,,,,, just think of the Parades with these folks,,,,,, I’ll pay $ to see that stuff……
August 30th, 2007 at 4:35 pmIf not how is that different than the process of GAY rights?
Comment by scooter — August 30, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
The right to privacy in your bedroom? Sorry the operative term is “consenting adults” a child at 10 is not an adult. A pretty simple statement do you agree? Saying that by allowing gay men to have rights will lead to the same for pedophiles et al is a slippery slope argument.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:35 pmHow sad his life must be!
Comment by upside00 — August 30, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Sad and pathetic.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:38 pmI even gave him my Svc # to google, or look up, or do whatever with.
No reply.
See {http://www.larrycraigslist.org/}.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:39 pmI gotta agree with Krazny. Most gay people can laugh at themselves just like the rest of us. Rednecks make fun of themselves (Jeff Foxworthy\Larry the Cable Guy, etc) and most Jews laugh at Jewish sterotypes presented in a comical format (can anyone say SPACEBALLS?). What about Queer eye for the straight guy? What about Will and Grace? Lets face it. There are things we all can find harmlessly funny in all races, stereotypes, etc.
Its the spirit its delivered in that can hurt someone or amuse them. And I don’t see anything too mean in this list. Just some typical gay humor describing a persona that is demonstrated by many gay men all over. Like I said. We’ve all seen Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:41 pmFox is running a story on their website that is headlined: “Pressure Mounts on Larry Craig to Resign”
Maybe Larry ought to call Lindsey Graham to relieve that pressure. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:42 pmIts like the Don Imus controversy. Thats a perfect example of taking something the wrong way. Imus was trying to compliment the girls physical prowess, but his words were taken wrong. Those girls on the basketball team are now suing him, and for what? He didn’t mean anything by it, and even if he did are they that much of a loser that if someone calls them a name they can’t just shrug it off? Its shameful, and its ugly to get worked up over something that was never intended to insult, hurt or disrespect you, and its petty to get worked up over a silly name that someone calls you even if they did mean something by it. We’ve got to get past this spoiled, persnickety self entitled society where everyone is ready to sue or silence someone over a few jokes. These were meant to be jokes, and anyone thats ever turned on a TV knows that the jokes did represent at least a large portion of the outed gay community. Its just not something to get upset about, and I doubt too many gay people are worked up about it.
August 30th, 2007 at 4:49 pm“Pressure Mounts on Larry Craig to Resignâ€
“Pressure on, Resigned to Mount Larry Craig”
August 30th, 2007 at 4:50 pmLarry Craig quote:
“I believe exonerating President Clinton with a vote for acquittal does create a threat to our nation. In short, I am convinced that the nation is at risk today–not because of the possibility of the president’s removal through the impeachment process, but because of the damage he has caused to the Executive office of the President, and the damage that continues to be done by his remaining in office.”
August 30th, 2007 at 4:53 pmI’m gay, and I’m not offended, for the simple fact that I know far too many gay men who fit the profile of that so-called “vicious” stereotype.
And speaking of stereotypes — scooter, what’s up with the references to goats, pedophiles and necrophiliacs?
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
August 30th, 2007 at 4:57 pmThere really should be a sense of humor about this. I pity the senator. He has had to live a lie for his entire life. That is tragic. His senate career is over no doubt.
I hope that he can celebrate in the long run.
Now, here is my sense of humor. I don’t think it’s unkind. I call it If Larry made a music video.
http://www.massachusettsobserver.com/larryvid.htm
August 30th, 2007 at 5:08 pmHaving sex with some scumbag woman in a bathroom stall is sick enough, but what he was doing? What a sick world we live in. This guy has no business in government nor do…..wait a minute, didn’t Barnie Franks run a gay prostetution ring out of his townhouse many years ago – and he is still a prominant member of Congress? Ah…he should go to – get rid of all the perverts.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:14 pmComment by John Sacks :
didn’t Barnie Franks run a gay prostetution ring out of his townhouse many years ago –
The answer to your question is No, he did not. Assuming, of course, you’re referring to Barney Frank. I have no idea who Barney Franks is.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:19 pmHaving sex with some scumbag woman in a bathroom stall is sick enough, but what he was doing? What a sick world we live in. This guy has no business in government nor do…..wait a minute, didn’t Barnie Franks run a gay prostetution ring out of his townhouse many years ago – and he is still a prominant member of Congress? Ah…he should go to – get rid of all the perverts.
Comment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
The TP staff is definitely off-duty today; it looks like old trollhome week here. We even have uber-troll John Sacks back.
No, John, Barnie Franks did not run a gay prostitution ring out of his townhouse. So it’s not only utterly irrelevant, it’s not true. But feel free to trot that one out every few months in the vain hope that everyone else here has advanced Alzheimer’s and cannot remember idiot comments long refuted.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:20 pmSacks could have it confused with the male prostitution ring in Bush’s White House. I’ve seen the pictures and websites.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:28 pmThe TP staff is definitely off-duty today; it looks like old trollhome week here. Comment by gummitch — August 30, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Unfortunately the staff here seems to prefer trolls over legitimate posters…
August 30th, 2007 at 5:41 pmThe TP staff is definitely off-duty today; it looks like old trollhome week here. Comment by gummitch — August 30, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Unfortunately the staff here seems to prefer trolls over legitimate posters…
Comment by RingoDingo — August 30, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
From what Faiz has told me, they only have someone monitoring the comments during business hours, and things get particularly out of control in the evenings and late at night — especially since some of our trolls have nothing else to do but post comments 18 hours a day. I think the staff at TP is committed to an exchange of ideas, so they’re hesitant to really shut trolls down as sites like Crooks and Liars manage to do. And, frankly, I don’t think they’re very good at administration; there’s always some excuse about the need for a high-tech solution that’s never instituted.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:48 pmhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/frank.htm
August 30th, 2007 at 5:53 pmSo it was an apartment not a townhouse, my mistake.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:54 pmSo it was an apartment not a townhouse, my mistake.
Comment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
Did you even read what you posted? Frank’s ROOMMATE was running a prostitution ring and when Frank learned what was happening, he kicked the guy out. So, no, again, for the 100th time, FRANK was not running a prostitution ring out of a townhouse, an apartment, a condo or a Chevrolet.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:57 pmPoint is that you guys love this Barnie Franks (or he likes franks) or whatever. This scumbag should have been kicked out a long time ago – as should the Idaho Senator.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:57 pmSo it was an apartment not a townhouse, my mistake.
Comment by John Sacks —
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August 30th, 2007 at 5:58 pmI guess the ability to read is not a prerequisite for posting.
Frank’s roomate – which means Frank’s townhouse. Frank had no knowledge of the bathouse style antics going on under his roof right? right.
August 30th, 2007 at 5:58 pmPerverts are perverts are perverts. All the same, all should be out of public office. Including that dude who was caught with $90K in his freezer – he is still hanging around protected by his leadership right?
August 30th, 2007 at 6:00 pmFrank’s roomate – which means Frank’s townhouse. Frank had no knowledge of the bathouse style antics going on under his roof right? right.
Comment by John Sacks
August 30th, 2007 at 6:00 pm*******
That’s correct, he did not. I guess you have trouble with both history and reading.
No, I just don’t buy his “I did not have sex with that man” story.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:01 pm10. Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation.
9. Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990.
8. Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.
7. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.
6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.
5. Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.
4. Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.
3. Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.
2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.
1. Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:02 pmHere is some history for you – a history of sexual misconduct and sweeping it under the rug. At least the GOP wants this guy out.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:06 pmTed Kennedy testified in defense of his nephew because he was FALSELY accussed of rape by a golddigger who had consensual sex and then got mad when he couldn’t remember her name afterwards.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:10 pmera, era, era, hic. Oh yea, forgot to mention the biggest of them all, the source of the little blue dress and “I did not have sex with that woman” – old slick willie himself the biggest hero for you guys. What a laugh.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:12 pmThe people in Barney Frank’s district seem to want him IN, because he is always easily re-elected. Let’s see what happens if Craig runs in 2008. Hint: he won’t run.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:12 pmThere are plenty of corrupt districts that vote idiots into office – does the name Marion Barry mean anything to you? Oh yea, New Orleans is another great example of that. I guess you get what you pay for.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:13 pmClinton’s approval rating at the height of impeachment was 65%. Bush’s today is 29%. This is not a matter of opinion or spin—this is a fact.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:14 pmI don’t like Marion Barry or Ray Nagin. But it was lack of federal spending on infrastructure that was responsible for the destruction of New Orleans and the Minneapolis bridge.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:17 pmGiven that Congress’s approval rating led by Pelosi and Reed is at an all time low (16% I believe at this point) I don’t really know what your point is other than you believe that the overwhelming majority of people in this country would approve of a President getting head in the Oval office of the People’s house by a girl not much older than his daughter who happens to work for him and he is a married man. Ok. To each is own I guess.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:18 pmyou know i think it is actually pretty funny. i don’t feel it is really mean spirited. it is harmless fun.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:21 pmI don’t know about the bow tie issue, but every other point in the N Y Post chart is based upon anecodotal evidence involving Larry Craig. The college nickname and tendency to warble show tunes were mentioned in several articles in the Idaho Stateman.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:21 pmCongress’ low approval rating comes from progressives like me who disapprove of them not doing what they were elected to do. The low rating is proof that the American people are to the left of Congress—-not to the right of congress.
71% of Americans (including 42% of Republicans) want all troops out of Iraq by April ‘08.
65% want universal, single-payer, government-run healthcare.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:23 pmWhoever this “john sacks” guy is, (and what a freudian name that is…) he sounds just like Larry Craid, Ted Haggert, and Mark Foley sounded, right before they got outed. just sayin…
August 30th, 2007 at 6:23 pmjohn sucks, is it all right for Fred Thompson to marry someone younger than his daughter? I mean inside your narrow mind.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:25 pmCongress’ low approval rating comes from progressives like me who disapprove of them not doing what they were elected to do. The low rating is proof that the American people are to the left of Congress—-not to the right of congress.
Now that is funny. The same thing is said about Bush – that a big chunk of is low approval rating is from conservatives (amnesty, borders, not being forcefull enough in the war, etc.) and that most Americans are actually further to the right. Which is it?
August 30th, 2007 at 6:27 pmJohn: someone who pays for sex
Sacks: multiple scrotums.
is john sacks someone who pays to have sex with multiple scrotums?
August 30th, 2007 at 6:27 pmI was wondering how long it would be before the personal attacks. You guys didn’t let me know. hehehe.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:28 pmWell if you’d say something worth responding to, you’d get a decent reply, as it is, you act just like those other repressed republicans who secertly want to cradle someones sack in their tender hands. you pervert.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:29 pmThat should be john sacks. Simple mistake. Like when Dick Armey said “Barney Fag”.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:30 pmjohn sucks, is it all right for Fred Thompson to marry someone younger than his daughter? I mean inside your narrow mind.
Are you serious about this question? Fred Thompson is another hollywood type and although he is a lawyer and was a Senator, the guy has no executive experience. It is shallow for conservatives to like this guy just becasue he speaks well. Na, I don’t really care for the fella – like his acting though. Remember that scene in “No Way Out” where he was the CIA director making a comment about the assistant to the Secretary of Defense – in that rough Tenessee drawl – “You don’t have to worry about him, he’s a homosexual”. I laughed my ass off.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:31 pmWhich is it?
Comment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Possible for both to be true. But what I said about getting out of Iraq and universal healthcare still stands.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:31 pmJohn: bathroom
Sacks: Gop variant word for sex
John Sex = bathroom sex
August 30th, 2007 at 6:32 pm“like his acting though. Remember that scene in “No Way Out†where he was the CIA director making a comment about the assistant to the Secretary of Defense – in that rough Tenessee drawl – “You don’t have to worry about him, he’s a homosexualâ€. I laughed my ass off.
Comment by John Sacks ”
I rest my case.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:33 pmSo called Universal Health care has worked well in Canada hasn’t it? Do you really think that a government that can’t manage VA hospitals, can’t legislate any laws worth a damn, can’t process passports anymore – can really take care of a medical system of that size? Give me a break — never happen.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:33 pmComment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
Well, we agree on Fred Thompson. The personal attacks result from giving very unreasonable arguments.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:33 pm“So called Universal Health care has worked well in Canada hasn’t it? Do you really think that a government that can’t manage VA hospitals, can’t legislate any laws worth a damn, can’t process passports anymore – can really take care of a medical system of that size? Give me a break — never happen.
Comment by John Sacks ”
Once we get a democrat back in the oval office that wants to govern, government will work, again.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:35 pm15.7% of the population is currently uninsured. I have no problem in coming up with a system to help them – but to destroy the health care of 84% of the population to help 15.7% is typical of a large government mentality. Absolutely ridiculous.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:36 pmBig government never worked. It didn’t work when the DNC railroaded the country in the 70’s and 80’s and it didn’t work when the fake conservatives tried it in the 2000’s.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:37 pmIt is still a fact that 65% of Americans want what every other developed country in the world has: universal, single-payer government-run healthcare. The rest of the developed work is a lot more satisfied with their healthcare than Americans. And it is far, far cheaper. And there is noone without healthcare.
Medicare works very well and the administrative costs are 2% instead of the private sector”s 15-25%.
Consumer Reports said we would save $250 billion each and every year administratively-alone by switching to what every other developed country has. And it would save 18,000 lives every year.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:38 pmQuestion? Why destroy what is working for 84% of the population to help 16%? Why not just help the 16% – it will be a hell of a lot cheaper and will take a lot less government to do it. Just doesn’t make sense. The only reason to do such a thing is a typical socialist control of the population – and we all know what happens to economic systems when you play that game.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:40 pmCraig: I tend to spread my legs
August 30th, 2007 at 6:41 pmThe problems with Walter Reed occurred with privatization and the resulting cutback in staff.
With universal healthcare, veterans do not have to travel 200 miles to a VA hospital. They can go to any hospital they choose. That is what it is like in the rest of the developed world. I know. I lived in Britain for twelve years. Their system is far superior to ours and there are quite a few countries that are better than Britain.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:42 pmWith employment rates of 96%, an economy that keeps growing – let’s keep it in the private sector and try to move some of the uninsured into jobs where they get health care or can now afford it. I am for keeping jobs here and getting rid of illegals – I would rather pay more for stuff made by Americans than pay higher taxes.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:44 pmReagan increased the size of government. Clinton decreased it. GWBush increased it. Check an almanac.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:44 pmAgain, why destroy a system that is working for 84% of the popuplation? Why build such a sick large government to help 16% of the population – it makes absolutely no sense. You can’t not agree that helping 16% makes more sense than breaking a system that works for 84%.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:45 pmNotice how Republicans never do anything to prevent the increase in illegals. It is just rhetoric. Illegals mean low wages which is what Republicans adore.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:46 pmClinton decreased government only because a true conservate GOP Congress was in power. The GOP lost its way in the 90’s under Bush. BTW, most of the great so called financial gains in the 90’s were smoke and mirrors tied to the RTC liquidation effort and the dot bomb era.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:47 pmComment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 6:45 pm
Uhhhh, because it saves us $250 BILLION each and every single year at the same time that it covers everyone??? Is that a good enough reason for you?
August 30th, 2007 at 6:47 pmNotice how Republicans never do anything to prevent the increase in illegals. It is just rhetoric. Illegals mean low wages which is what Republicans adore.
You are right about the Bush republicans on this. The liberals want the illegals for the votes and yes they do vote in many of our cities regardless of their status.
I personally want to kick them out, close the borders and totally and truely reform the immigration policy in this country.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:48 pm#173=spin, spin, and more spin. I have heard all these talking points a thousand times. Anything good that happens under a Democrat is due to the Republicans and anything bad that happens under Republicans is due to the Democrats.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:49 pmThe last thing in the world an illegal would do is attempt to vote. That is bullShit. You didn’t say why nothing was done about illegals the twelve years of Reagan/Bush.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:52 pmGiven that Congress controls spending in this country and the GOP was in control for most of Clinton’s term, I have to disagree with you. This is not spin, it is just a fact of life.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:53 pmThe last thing in the world an illegal would do is attempt to vote. That is bullShit. You didn’t say why nothing was done about illegals the twelve years of Reagan/Bush.
You would be surprised then. BTW, there are areas of the country (Maryland for one) that want and in some case allow illegals to vote on local issues.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:54 pmOh yea, I think that the entire government, both parties, have failed the citizens of this land miserably on immigration policy.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:55 pmYou are right about the Bush republicans on this. The liberals want the illegals for the votes and yes they do vote in many of our cities regardless of their status. Comment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
That’s anecdotal propaganda. This has repeatedly been investigate, and found not to be either widespread, common or significant. Just like your whole wingnut ‘healthcare’ lies.
I personally want to kick them out, close the borders and totally and truely reform the immigration policy in this country. Comment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
I’m sure the natives that were here when your ancestors came, murdered, and stole their lands felt the same way. I always love the “I’ve got mine – screw you” attitudes of wingnuts.
Hey wingnut, you do realize that those ‘illegals’ are mostly of native american blood – meaning they have more of a right to this land, that Israel does to theirs. Why don’t you learn to have a rational and consistent argument instead of falling back on bigotry, xenophobia and race baiting? Oh wait, that’s right, you wingnuts never would get elected if you did that!
August 30th, 2007 at 6:57 pmOh yea, I think that the entire government, both parties, have failed the citizens of this land miserably on immigration policy.
Comment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 6:55 pm
No one fails this country like the republicans! You’re in a league of incompetence all by yourselves!
August 30th, 2007 at 6:57 pmIt is still a fact that 65% of Americans want what every other developed country in the world has: universal, single-payer government-run healthcare. The rest of the developed work is a lot more satisfied with their healthcare than Americans. And it is far, far cheaper. And there is noone without healthcare.
Medicare works very well and the administrative costs are 2% instead of the private sectorâ€s 15-25%.
Consumer Reports said we would save $250 billion each and every year administratively-alone by switching to what every other developed country has. And it would save 18,000 lives every year.
Comment by Keith — August 30, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
Not much of a reader are you, eh?
You haven’t read up on the French papers trashing their healthcare system, eh?
while they say that yes, everyone in France is covered, the years long lines to get medical procedures done and the government interfering in ones private medical life.
This is what I dont’ get about Liberals.
They claim that we need more privacy and how dare the Bush administration get into people’s private life.
But these same Liberals have ZERO problem having the government get into their most private part of their life, their medical history.
explain.
August 30th, 2007 at 6:59 pm#178 Your theory does not fit the facts. Congress didn’t become more liberal going from Carter to Reagan. The increase in spending under Reagan was not on liberal spending. Democrats were in control under Clinton’s first budget which cut the deficit in half.
Congress didn’t become more liberal going from Clinton to GWBush. We have not had liberal spending the last six years. Your talking points just do not fit reality.
I swear, I have heard what you are saying a thousand times and it just does not add up.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:00 pmA little history lesson on the 90’s and Clinton’s so called surplus.
During the savings and loan debacle of the 80’s the government ended up with billions in assets of failed savings and loan banks. 100’s of billions of dollars.
During the 90’s the Resolution Trust Corporation sold off most of these assets and the dollars brought in inflated the “revenue” side of the US books making a surplus possible. Smoke and mirrors #1.
During the 90’s and the media blowout of the dot bomb business, mom and pop were sold a bill of goods to invest and invest and invest in these vaporware companies. The true villains, the banks of Wall Street, jumped around building wealth with no check and balance from the Clinton led government.
So with over 1 trillion$$ pumped into these companies, who quickly turned around and spent the money buidling their phony companies, the economy was artificially inflated – both with material goods (Cisco, Microsoft, etc.) and jobs (very tom dick and mary was a C level executive in the 90’s earning from this false wealth) – and of course they paid taxes – more fake money added to the US balance sheet – smoke and mirror #2.
Clinton basically did nothing – nothing to stop the banks, nothing to really help the economy. He just rode the wave of this bubble and you guys still buy that he somehow came close to balancing the budget. Not true.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:01 pmBTW, Regan’s spending was mostly military – basically he outspent the Russians and they collapsed under their own economic system. Given that we spend (and during Regan this was close) around 10% of our GNP on Military – and the Russians of that day (socialists as they were ) were spending upwards of 90% of their GNP on Military – we simply out spent them – and built better technology (private sector development tends to work that way).
August 30th, 2007 at 7:06 pmSo yes there was a build up (spending) during Regan but mostly on Military and defense technology.
BTW, we have had huge spending the last 6 years by so called conservatives – which means they are all bullshit artists. I give low ratings to the GOP for abandoning their conservative fiscal principles. Why do you think Bush’s rating is so low – and especially congress? It’s not just the liberals that are pissed.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:07 pmWere Reagan’s record deficits and GHWBush’s record deficits and GWBush’s record deficits smoke and mirrors,too? You are just spinning so you can say Clinton did nothing good and the Republicans did nothing wrong.
I have a graph of deficits/surpluses going from JFK to today and the difference is amazing.
First 200 years of USA, ending in 1981, equaled $0.9 trillion. After twelve years of Reagan and Bush, it equaled $4.1 trillion.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:08 pmBTW – check that graph against GNP/GDP and population. You will get interesting results. That is a spin graph. Yea, the deficit increased under just about every President in the past 150 years, deficit spending seems to be a way of life here. Look at the credit card debt and the sub prime mortgage market? It is ingrained in our culture.
And yet – we have one of the fast growing economies in history (in spite of a current housing/mortgage buble), we have employement rates of 96% – something just doesn’t add up does it.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:10 pmAs long as records have been kept (87 years) whenever we go from Republican to Democratic, the job growth rate improves, and whenever we go from Democratic to Republican, the job growth rate worsens.
And please don’t act like I am not capable of thinking of things I could easily think of forty years ago. It is an insult.
August 30th, 2007 at 7:27 pmAs for the framers, the constitution is fine and dandy, it makes it damn near impossible for the idiot masses to have a direct say in the goings on of the Nation.
Read Machiavelli’s The Discourses to see why!!!
Comment by Makarios/Ravin/MrPee — August 26, 2007 @ 1:45 am
August 30th, 2007 at 7:29 pmComment by John Sacks — August 30, 2007 @ 6:02 pm
It doesn’t strike you as odd that you had to go back at least to the 90s and mostly to the 70s in order to come up with a list of Democratic sex scandals? Do you even know that this is the 21st Century?
August 30th, 2007 at 7:52 pmQuestion #8
Do you sleep at night, wearing only your protective cup,
August 30th, 2007 at 9:09 pmwith a small curly haired black dog?
Listening to the audiotape ofCraig’s arrest i’m convinced…
…he was “spatially” profiled…
August 30th, 2007 at 9:10 pmSorry, kids, but this was funny!
August 30th, 2007 at 10:18 pmIt doesn’t strike you as odd that you had to go back at least to the 90s and mostly to the 70s in order to come up with a list of Democratic sex scandals?
Comment by gummitch — August 30, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
There have been so few dems there until this year. ;)
August 30th, 2007 at 11:14 pmDoes your Mom have to take you with her into the ladies restroom?
Comment by Raven — August 30, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
Avoided that one nicely. Well done! ;)
August 30th, 2007 at 11:31 pmThe top 68 Republicans Proud about their Republican Values:
68 – Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
67 – Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
66 – Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
65 – Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
64 – Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
63 – Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
62 – Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
61 – Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
60 – Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
59 – Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
58 – Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
57 – Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
56 – Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
55 – Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
54 – Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
53 – Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
52 – Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
51 – Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
50 – Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
49 – Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
48 – Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
47 – Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
46 – Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
45 – Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
44 – Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
43 – Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
42 – Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
41 – Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
40 – Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
39 – Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
38 – Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
37 – Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
36 – Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
35 – Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
34 – Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
33 – Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
32 – Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
31 – Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
30 – Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
29 – Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
28 – Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
27 – Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
26 – Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
25 – Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
24 – Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
23 – Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
23 – Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
22 – Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
21 – Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
20 – Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
19 – Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
18 – Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
17 – Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
16 – Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
15 – Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
14 – Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
13 – Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
12 – Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
11 – Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
10 – Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
9 – Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
8 – Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
7 – Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
6 – Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
5 – Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
4 – Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
3 – Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
2 – Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
1 – Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner’s report here and his full report here.
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August 31st, 2007 at 7:18 am“Well done! ;)”
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August 31st, 2007 at 12:14 pm