Comments on: Petraeus: WH won’t write my September report. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:27:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: The Sweet Sphincter of the Saviour Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4049564 The Sweet Sphincter of the Saviour Chocolate Jesus Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:13:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4049564 Toliver a number of people have replied to you silly yammering at #2, whats your response? Toliver a number of people have replied to you silly yammering at #2, whats your response?

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4049427 ucsbclassics53 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:57:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4049427 and not just steal a Super Bowl party for the troops, but TO CHARGE US TAXPAYERS FOR IT. Y'all are so against social programs when it comes to your taxes, but when it comes to funding the war, you give your money without knowing where it goes to, WE ALL DO. It's like you're giving your hard-earned money to any huckster that comes along, in fact it's like sending money via Western Union to those in Eastern Europe pulling off the Romanian laptop scam on ebay. We'll never see that money, and we'll never be able to get it back...remember the billions we lost in Iraq? and not just steal a Super Bowl party for the troops, but TO CHARGE US TAXPAYERS FOR IT. Y’all are so against social programs when it comes to your taxes, but when it comes to funding the war, you give your money without knowing where it goes to, WE ALL DO. It’s like you’re giving your hard-earned money to any huckster that comes along, in fact it’s like sending money via Western Union to those in Eastern Europe pulling off the Romanian laptop scam on ebay. We’ll never see that money, and we’ll never be able to get it back…remember the billions we lost in Iraq?

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4049403 ucsbclassics53 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:51:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4049403 I find it ironic that Toliver supports an administration that was SLOW AS MOLASSES in getting the troops body armor and cared more about enriching its corporate cronies than doing the right thing... that cared more about allowing Halliburton and KBR to charge the Halliburton tax, to feed our troops <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americasdebate.com%2Fforums%2Fsimple%2Findex.php%2Ft6953.html&ei=053XRqT7J47KgQOzu7W5CQ&usg=AFQjCNGQupo6ahmfLBIu0-VEbRlp3rW1vA&sig2=O-B_5O8Hq96gOBbpHp3Ucw" rel="nofollow">rotten meat</a>, to steal a Super Bowl Party meant for the troops, to charge us taxpayers <a href="http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/waxman_120904.html" rel="nofollow">$45 </a>for a 12-pack of soda... that wanted to CUT VA Funding, that did nothing to admonish the military when it was "diagnosing" PTSD as conduct disorder (blame the troops for their symptoms because to them it's all in their personality)... this is supporting the troops Toliver style... whereas we want the troops out of a civil war we have no business intervening in, Toliver wants our troops to be in harm's way because his god cannot stand to be wrong on this issue... poor idolater...pontificate about how we don't support the troops when we support the whistleblowers who charge Halliburton is poisoning our troops and feeding them food that even you don't deserve to eat, when we support getting rid of the war profiteers, etc. You aren't supporting the troops, you're supporting the Bush Administration and the war profiteers and the chickenhawks. Don't kid yourself. You were never for the troops, you were for them being used as pawns in the game of politics... I find it ironic that Toliver supports an administration that was SLOW AS MOLASSES in getting the troops body armor and cared more about enriching its corporate cronies than doing the right thing…

that cared more about allowing Halliburton and KBR to charge the Halliburton tax, to feed our troops rotten meat, to steal a Super Bowl Party meant for the troops, to charge us taxpayers $45 for a 12-pack of soda…

that wanted to CUT VA Funding, that did nothing to admonish the military when it was “diagnosing” PTSD as conduct disorder (blame the troops for their symptoms because to them it’s all in their personality)…

this is supporting the troops Toliver style…

whereas we want the troops out of a civil war we have no business intervening in, Toliver wants our troops to be in harm’s way because his god cannot stand to be wrong on this issue…

poor idolater…pontificate about how we don’t support the troops when we support the whistleblowers who charge Halliburton is poisoning our troops and feeding them food that even you don’t deserve to eat, when we support getting rid of the war profiteers, etc. You aren’t supporting the troops, you’re supporting the Bush Administration and the war profiteers and the chickenhawks. Don’t kid yourself. You were never for the troops, you were for them being used as pawns in the game of politics…

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048761 upside00 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:01:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048761 No worries, Col. Jack. I was against that war too. Joined VVAW and threw my ribbons over the WH wall and marched to shut down DC and felt I helped stop that immoral war. I always tell a soldier now when I travel, "thanks for your service". Not showing my support of this illegal occupation, but to show my respect for their service. No worries, Col. Jack. I was against that war too. Joined VVAW and threw my ribbons over the WH wall and marched to shut down DC and felt I helped stop that immoral war. I always tell a soldier now when I travel, “thanks for your service”. Not showing my support of this illegal occupation, but to show my respect for their service.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048741 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:56:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048741 I'm very sorry to hear that, upside. That's just wrong, wrong, wrong. I’m very sorry to hear that, upside. That’s just wrong, wrong, wrong.

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048709 upside00 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:45:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048709 <em>Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 30, 2007 @ 6:27 pm</em> Col. Jack, with all due respect, I was both spit on and had red paint thrown on me after I returned. The paint happened at SEATAC airport after leaving Ft. Lewis on may way home and the spitting happened on my college campus when I was registering for classes and came out of the GI Bill offices. Maybe isolated, but it did happen to some of us. Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — August 30, 2007 @ 6:27 pm

Col. Jack, with all due respect, I was both spit on and had red paint thrown on me after I returned. The paint happened at SEATAC airport after leaving Ft. Lewis on may way home and the spitting happened on my college campus when I was registering for classes and came out of the GI Bill offices. Maybe isolated, but it did happen to some of us.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048641 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:27:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048641 There is no documented incident of protestors spitting on returning Viet Nam vets. Maybe it happened, but there is no proof other than anecdotal stories of this ever occurring. Since it's all anecdotal, let me say that I knew lots of people who protested against the war in Viet Nam, some of them violently, and I never met anyone who would even consider spitting on a vet. There is no documented incident of protestors spitting on returning Viet Nam vets. Maybe it happened, but there is no proof other than anecdotal stories of this ever occurring. Since it’s all anecdotal, let me say that I knew lots of people who protested against the war in Viet Nam, some of them violently, and I never met anyone who would even consider spitting on a vet.

]]> By: Ret. Col. Jack Ripper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048618 Ret. Col. Jack Ripper Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:21:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048618 Toliver: "Your dem congress requires the administration to prepare and submit the F’n report." So then maybe you can explain why Bush keeps saying Petreaus will make the report and Bush will follow the General's recommendation. Is Bush lying to the American people, then? You guys always seem to want it both ways. Toliver: “Your dem congress requires the administration to prepare and submit the F’n report.”

So then maybe you can explain why Bush keeps saying Petreaus will make the report and Bush will follow the General’s recommendation. Is Bush lying to the American people, then?

You guys always seem to want it both ways.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048508 bilbobaggins Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:43:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048508 <em>"The problem the left has is that they dont believe Pet will say what they want to hear, so the full court press is on before the first word is uttered."</em> No, the problem is that we don't think that Petraus will tell the truth. He has become another one of Bush's yes men. He has seen quite clearly what happens to Generals who disagree with Bush. And for some reason he thinks that holding on to his job is more important than being honest with the American people. So, he'll tell the press what Bush wants him to say. I believe the troops whose boots are or have been on the ground, and I believe the retired generals (who still talk to the generals presently serving) who are now free to tell the truth. “The problem the left has is that they dont believe Pet will say what they want to hear, so the full court press is on before the first word is uttered.”

No, the problem is that we don’t think that Petraus will tell the truth. He has become another one of Bush’s yes men. He has seen quite clearly what happens to Generals who disagree with Bush. And for some reason he thinks that holding on to his job is more important than being honest with the American people. So, he’ll tell the press what Bush wants him to say.

I believe the troops whose boots are or have been on the ground, and I believe the retired generals (who still talk to the generals presently serving) who are now free to tell the truth.

]]> By: hpg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048505 hpg Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:41:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048505 Test Test

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048502 bilbobaggins Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:40:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048502 <em>"3) Democracy in that part of the world 4) Stand up when blah blah. Comment by RUCerious "</em> I think they will skip #3. The last I read, Bush has given up on the idea of democracy in Iraq. “3) Democracy in that part of the world
4) Stand up when blah blah.
Comment by RUCerious “

I think they will skip #3. The last I read, Bush has given up on the idea of democracy in Iraq.

]]> By: LibStl http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048468 LibStl Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:30:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048468 I know that the White House is required to submit regular reports to congress concerning progress in Iraq, however, I believe this report is not one of those regular breifings, but is supposed to be an independent report by the General himself. I could be wrong. Comment by Chris L — August 30, 2007 @ 3:41 pm This was my understanding as well. In fact, I seem to recall the White House saying that the report coming out in September was the General's report. It's not the same report required by Congress. I know that the White House is required to submit regular reports to congress concerning progress in Iraq, however, I believe this report is not one of those regular breifings, but is supposed to be an independent report by the General himself. I could be wrong.

Comment by Chris L — August 30, 2007 @ 3:41 pm

This was my understanding as well. In fact, I seem to recall the White House saying that the report coming out in September was the General’s report. It’s not the same report required by Congress.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048463 dbadass Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:29:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048463 Comment by upside00 — August 30, 2007 @ 5:21 pm Point taken and respect for you and all of the rest like you. Comment by upside00 — August 30, 2007 @ 5:21 pm

Point taken and respect for you and all of the rest like you.

]]> By: bilbobaggins http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048456 bilbobaggins Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:27:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048456 Oh, I see. It didn't play well in Peoria that the White House was going to write the report so they told Betrayus to tell everyone that he is really going to write the report. Yeah, right. Like Bush is going to allow that to happen. They made a mistake by telling the world that they were writing the report, so they are rectifying that mistake by writing the report anyway, but telling Betrayus to say he wrote it. If anyone thinks that Betrayus is independent from Bush, you need you head examined. Betrayus would not still be in the position he is in if he was not a dedicated Bush yes man. Now, if Betrayus was an upright kind of guy and isn't in Bush's hip pocket, he will have the ability to be honest when he testifies in front of Congress. Buy I'm not going to hold my breath on that one. Oh, I see. It didn’t play well in Peoria that the White House was going to write the report so they told Betrayus to tell everyone that he is really going to write the report. Yeah, right. Like Bush is going to allow that to happen. They made a mistake by telling the world that they were writing the report, so they are rectifying that mistake by writing the report anyway, but telling Betrayus to say he wrote it. If anyone thinks that Betrayus is independent from Bush, you need you head examined. Betrayus would not still be in the position he is in if he was not a dedicated Bush yes man.

Now, if Betrayus was an upright kind of guy and isn’t in Bush’s hip pocket, he will have the ability to be honest when he testifies in front of Congress. Buy I’m not going to hold my breath on that one.

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048432 upside00 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:21:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048432 <em>Comment by dbadass — August 30, 2007 @ 4:59 pm</em> I am sensitive to the fact that in Vietnam, the troops were dissed for being in the war when most were DRAFTED! Now the troops are being dissed by the chickenhawks in BushCo because they are VOLUNTEERS and "asked" for it. We are ruining our military and the ability to recruit and keep good people in the services, which will haunt us for many years to come. When we are now paying up to a $40,000 bounty to just get enlistees, we have done something VERY WRONG!! Comment by dbadass — August 30, 2007 @ 4:59 pm

I am sensitive to the fact that in Vietnam, the troops were dissed for being in the war when most were DRAFTED! Now the troops are being dissed by the chickenhawks in BushCo because they are VOLUNTEERS and “asked” for it.

We are ruining our military and the ability to recruit and keep good people in the services, which will haunt us for many years to come.

When we are now paying up to a $40,000 bounty to just get enlistees, we have done something VERY WRONG!!

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048375 dbadass Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:59:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048375 And yes, I do take it personally, and always will. Comment by upside00 — August 30, 2007 @ 4:14 pm The experiences you have had are unacceptable and should never have happened. Thankfully they are rare and occurred at a very unique time in our history. I hope you will not misinterpret my meaning at 55. In general I hope you would agree that no matter their ideology most Americans support their troops just not always the actions those folks are asked to be engaged in. And yes, I do take it personally, and always will.

Comment by upside00 — August 30, 2007 @ 4:14 pm

The experiences you have had are unacceptable and should never have happened. Thankfully they are rare and occurred at a very unique time in our history. I hope you will not misinterpret my meaning at 55. In general I hope you would agree that no matter their ideology most Americans support their troops just not always the actions those folks are asked to be engaged in.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048346 dbadass Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:49:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048346 Perhaps some of you cats will spit on him when he shows up up in DC? Come on, you know you want to. Comment by Toliver — August 30, 2007 @ 2:53 pm Spit on vets seems like flames on flags, many speak of them but few have actually witnessed either Perhaps some of you cats will spit on him when he shows up up in DC? Come on, you know you want to.

Comment by Toliver — August 30, 2007 @ 2:53 pm

Spit on vets seems like flames on flags, many speak of them but few have actually witnessed either

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048340 dbadass Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:47:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048340 RUCerious sez: Anybody got snakes? Herp numbers decrease with increasing latitude thus we've got few in NH. Of the ones we do have corn snake and eastern garter are the most common in my area. RUCerious sez:

Anybody got snakes?

Herp numbers decrease with increasing latitude thus we’ve got few in NH. Of the ones we do have corn snake and eastern garter are the most common in my area.

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048256 upside00 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:14:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048256 <em>Keep on smearing the military, it is something you’ve loved to do since Vietnam. Perhaps some of you cats will spit on him when he shows up up in DC? Come on, you know you want to. Comment by Toliver — August 30, 2007 @ 2:53 pm</em> Hey A$$Klown! I was wounded in combat in Vietnam and was spit on and also had red paint thrown on me so I know what that is like. I, unlike you, DO respect the military, just not it's Codpiece Commander Guy-in-Chief. And I don't respect you. using that lame excuse provided by the rover and kompany to try and divert the attention away from all the crap YOUR idiot savant has brought on our military, our justice system and our constitution. And yes, I do take it personally, and always will. Keep on smearing the military, it is something you’ve loved to do since Vietnam. Perhaps some of you cats will spit on him when he shows up up in DC? Come on, you know you want to.

Comment by Toliver — August 30, 2007 @ 2:53 pm

Hey A$$Klown! I was wounded in combat in Vietnam and was spit on and also had red paint thrown on me so I know what that is like. I, unlike you, DO respect the military, just not it’s Codpiece Commander Guy-in-Chief.

And I don’t respect you. using that lame excuse provided by the rover and kompany to try and divert the attention away from all the crap YOUR idiot savant has brought on our military, our justice system and our constitution.

And yes, I do take it personally, and always will.

]]> By: TripMaster Monkey http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/comment-page-2/#comment-4048219 TripMaster Monkey Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:58:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/30/petraeus-wh-wont-write-my-september-report/#comment-4048219 RUCerious sez: <blockquote><em>Anybody got snakes?</em></blockquote> Plenty of cottonmouths in my neck of the woods, unfortunately. I'll see if I can send one...I know I've got one of those big manilla envelopes around here somewhere... <b>^_^</b> RUCerious sez:

Anybody got snakes?

Plenty of cottonmouths in my neck of the woods, unfortunately.

I’ll see if I can send one…I know I’ve got one of those big manilla envelopes around here somewhere… ^_^

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