Comments on: Lawmakers Who Were Almost Shot Down Declare ‘Significant Progress’ In Iraq

By: Maxim

Maxim — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:14:59 +0000

I wanna a cigar like he has )

By: destardi

destardi — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:33:39 +0000

Um, what is it with the oral fixation of phallic symbols? that’s a BIG cigar!

By: ScooterblowsBush

ScooterblowsBush — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:51:29 +0000

Oh I love it when a republicon tries so desperatly to muddy the waters when arguing. Why is anyone dignifying such a silly disengenous creyton like this anyway?

By: video conferencing

video conferencing — Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:36:56 +0000

I want that, too. I want us to be that society as well. At the time, we were fighting two countries led by people with fascist ideologies who were trying to establish regional and eventually global empires.

By: Lynne Kringlerl

Lynne Kringlerl — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:53:43 +0000

We started with 100,000-120,000 American troops.

We trained 350,000 Iraqi troops.

We pay 120,000+ mercenaries. (not with the original US forces)

We have added at least 20,000 American troops.

That is a ’surge’ of at least, 490,000 new troops.

The total number, fighting for the Iraqi government…appx. 610,000 with 28,000+ more planned, making a total of 638,000.

By all accounts, Iraq is worse off than ever.

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Please tell us what is working about this surge?

More and more officers are coming out saying, IT IS NOT WORKING!!! Those are not liberals or Democrats, most are life long conservative Repubs.

70% of Iraqis want us out, the majority of the Iraqi Parliment want us out, 70% of our troops want us out, almost 70% of the American people want us out.

Now, as for sucess. More troops dying than any months since nov. 204. 127 last month, 20 confirmed and 12 uncomfirmed already for this month.

Almost 2000 Iraqis last month. 276 already this month. Turkey is ready to invade Kirkuk, in N. Iraq. One provence has tripled in attacks and it’s commander is asking for more troops. Bagdad is out of control in 3/4 ths of it’s city. The ‘green zone’ is being attacked so many times that the people have to wear vests and helmets all of the time, the parliment was hit last week, 1 1/2 million are homeless in Iraq, 2 million are refugees and 1-3/4 million are dead. They still don’t have sewer, electricity, potable water, adequate medical aid or decent infrastructure.

Torture and death squads continue.

However, good news!! The largest, most expensive and most fortified embassy in the world will be complete Sept 2007, in bagdad, complete with swimming pools, electricity, water supply, sewer system, tennis , volleyball, and basketball courts, 16,000square foot embassador’s quarters, 9,000 sq ft aide’s quarters, and it’s the USA’s. Can you imagine how happy that makes all of those Iraqis?

So wake up, stop believing people that are putting out propaganda to keep the war going or people that have never been out to Falujah or unescorted in Baghdad.

It doesn’t take a mental giant to figure it out…..they lied then…they are lying now. They need that carbon law that gives 80% of the Iraqi oil to the US oil corps.
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HOW CAN THE ‘SURGE’ BE WORKING?

This is a list of only US deaths in Iraq. As you can see, it doesn’t add up to the reduction of US deaths that is being touted by the leaders and their media.

March April May June July August
07 81 104 126 101 79 81
06 31 76 69 61 43 65
05 35 52 80 78 54 85
04 52 135 80 42 54 66
03 65 74 37 30 48 35

Another thing that jumped out at me is this:
Wounded and medical evacuations As reported by the DoD as of 6/30/2007

Wounded – Medical Air Transport Required 5,798 150 1,931 70 —7,949

Diseases/Other Medical – Medical Air Transport Required 17,532 620 1,302 911—– 20,365

17,532 is Army. On ground in Iraq. The next highest is the marines with 1,302.

Why are there so many disease air evacs?
Why mostly on ground, in Iraq, troops?

Water borne disease? Food poisoning? Depleted uranium? Vaccinations?

By: Don Thieme

Don Thieme — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:08:55 +0000

We need to do a better job of training those Iraqis so they do not miss.

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:19:16 +0000

Heads-up sheeple! These politicians and the main-stream media are like magicians, we are being misdirected! The true terrorist threat lies at our southern border. As of Saturday, Sept. 1st, our border is open to allow Mexican truckers to haul anywhere in the U.S. Terrorist have already been caught trying to enter as Mexican illegals ! With 40′ semi trailers, imagine the WMD’s that can be hauled in and placed wherever chosen!

By: Rick Hudson

Rick Hudson — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:08:30 +0000

Unfortunately, for those of us actually familiar with the “incident,” the press reports are incorrect. The plane did not have RPGs or rockets fired at it; rather, the crew observed tracer rounds several thousand feet below the aircraft fired more than 1 nautical mile away. The “rockets” the Members saw were countermeasure flares. No rockets, no mortars, no RPGs (which, by the way, don’t have sufficient range to be fired at an aircraft flying at that altitude).

As for Congressional delegation time “locked in the Green Zone,” again … check your facts. There have been 38 delegations to Iraq this year, consisting of 140 Members of Congress and 139 Congressional staffers, for a total of 63 days in-country. 27 of those 38 delegations spent a majority of their time outside of Baghdad.

So before you all froth at the mouth and rant and rave and pontificate, please at least try to get ther facts before you spout.

By: williamf

williamf — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:12:18 +0000

Now they know the “surge” is working because….they’ve been shot at? Did it ever occur to them that the ordinance shot at them was a message that the insugency is still here and going strong? No, all they were interested in was their little war story. The more subtle point of this “incident” was lost on these three horsemen of the Apocalypse. Mel, just kick back and smoke your dog turd because you don’t have a clue. Blood is on your hands and you can’t see it.

By: Bush's Anus

Bush's Anus — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:23:49 +0000

Why yes, Clintonâ€™s cigar was inside of me.

Comment by Monica’s Vagina

Why yes, “Gannon”’s johnson was inside of ME…

By: curmudgeon

curmudgeon — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:13:51 +0000

Does this remind anyone of the knight in Monty Python & the Holy Grail, who was guarding the bridge, and even after losing all four limbs in a sword fight, kept challenging his opponent as if nothing had changed?

So was this another ten to fourteen hour stay in the most heavily fortified area of Iraq? Since Iraq is just slightly larger in land area than California, and has a slightly larger population than Texas, then perhaps an extended layover at LAX or DFW would be sufficient for the frustrated traveler to submit a definitive, detailed statement about the current conditions of that entire state.

Couldn’t they have just as well watched the same PowerPoint presentation at home and received the same information? And where is the video footage of these members of Congress venturing outside the bubble (aka The Green Zone)? The Wizard of Oz would have been proud.

By: BARTLEBEE

BARTLEBEE — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 03:12:39 +0000

Wow. The trolls are so out of ammunition on this one that they’re talking about Monica Lewinsky, in a thread about 3 senators almost getting shot down in Iraq.

That is an unquestionable confession of defeat.

By: Scooter'sNaive

Scooter'sNaive — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:49:01 +0000

Wow old talking point there, something about 4,000 deaths is way less than the previous wars. Love that talking point.

By: Monica's Vagina

Monica's Vagina — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:45:06 +0000

Why yes, Clinton’s cigar was inside of me.

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:16:42 +0000

Kool-aid forever!!!!!!

By: donkey

donkey — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:52:36 +0000

keep saying it ’till

it comes true

the surge is working

heh…

By: Mel Martinez

Mel Martinez — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:35:06 +0000

If you want an example of progress in Iraq, then consider this. Last time I visited Iraq, on the helicopter ride back the wind blew my ceeegar out.

This time, everytime the wind blew it out it got re-ignited by a passing incendiary round.

By: Mel Martinez

Mel Martinez — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:28:56 +0000

I see progress in the housing market too.

For Apartment complex owners.

By: Mel Martinez

Mel Martinez — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:24:16 +0000

There is much progress in Iraq. Of course, most of its been on the side of the insurgency but its still progress.

By: Mel Martinez

Mel Martinez — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:20:41 +0000

Yes, we saw significant progress.

On this trip, we encoutered less bullets flying past our heads, than on the last trip.