U.S. Military Censors ThinkProgress
U.S. Military Censors ThinkProgress
ThinkProgress is now banned from the U.S. military network in Baghdad.
Recently, an avid ThinkProgress reader — a U.S. soldier serving his second tour in Iraq — wrote to us and said that he can no longer access ThinkProgress.org. The error message he received:
The ban began sometime shortly after Aug. 22, when Ret. Maj. Gen. John Batiste was our guest blogger on ThinkProgress. He posted an op-ed that was strongly critical of the President’s policies and advocated a “responsible and deliberate redeployment from Iraq.” Previously, both the Wall Street Journal and Washington Times had rejected the piece. An excerpt:
It is disappointing that so many elected representatives of my [Republican] party continue to blindly support the administration rather than doing what is in the best interests of our country. Traditionally, my party has maintained a conservative view on questions regarding our Armed Forces. For example, we commit our military only when absolutely necessary. […]
The only way to stabilize Iraq and allow our military to rearm and refit for the long fight ahead is to begin a responsible and deliberate redeployment from Iraq and replace the troops with far less expensive and much more effective resources–those of diplomacy and the critical work of political reconciliation and economic recovery. In other words, when it comes to Iraq, it’s time for conservatives to once again be conservative.
Not surprisingly, both the National Review and Fox News are still accessible.
Must have somthing to do with that low moral.
August 31st, 2007 at 2:56 pmWelcome to the Chinese Internet.
August 31st, 2007 at 2:57 pmwho wants to bet free republic doesn’t have any problem reaching the troops?
August 31st, 2007 at 2:58 pmUnamerican and facist. Simply a disgrace. Why should we believe any poll taken to show opinions in the military when they are not subject to the same information as ordinary American citizens?
August 31st, 2007 at 2:58 pmWar is Peace. Slavery is Freedom. After 911 Bush said that the terrorists hate us for our freedom. Apparently, the only way to win is for Bush to take away our freedoms so that the terrorists cannont hate us for them any longer. Seig Heil Bush!!!
W = America’s new swastika
August 31st, 2007 at 2:59 pmIt could certainly be argued that ThinkProgress gives comfort and encouragement to America’s enemies.
August 31st, 2007 at 2:59 pmCan’t let the troops seek the truth or think for themselves.
You’re right, Ringo. This is the kind of thing that adds to that low morale. Treating the troops like they’re stupid. But I’m sure you support that.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:00 pm“who wants to bet free republic doesn’t have any problem reaching the troops?
Comment by CD — August 31, 2007 @ 2:58 pm”
Or RedState????
August 31st, 2007 at 3:00 pmMust have somthing to do with that low moral.
Comment by Ringo — August 31, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
You’ve got that right!! Lots of evidence of low morals and propaganda these days!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:00 pmTP is bad for the morale of soldiers in the field. Never reporting ANY military achievements, TP’s agenda is opposing this President and military policy, distorts the ENTIRE picture. Politics is a “power game” - and TP does it very well. But according TP, our military is just marching backwards with NO accomplishments - - but “You Support the Troops”, right????
August 31st, 2007 at 3:00 pmCan’t let the troops seek the truth or think for themselves.
Comment by troqua
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TP is pure Leftist propaganda.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:01 pmSo much for freedom of speech for our military.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:02 pmWe should all watch what we say on this website. One day in the not to distant future we will wake up in the middle of the night by stormtroopers and be led off to “re-education camps” for our unacceptable views. Think it can’t happen?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:02 pmOr RedState????
Comment by RemoveBush — August 31, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
or any number of rightwing nut sites.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:02 pmOh no the mighty virus is here to lecture us about military matters.
I’m thinking that if I was stuck in the middle of a disastrous conflict that I might actually LIKE to hear about efforts to get me out! But that’s just me.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:03 pmBut according TP, our military is just marching backwards with NO accomplishments - - but “You Support the Troopsâ€, right????
Comment by mighty aphrodite
PLease list all the accomplishments associated with specific goals stated by the President.
I think they are doing a good job just to function over there. They are not meant to do what they are being asked to do…whatever that is…
August 31st, 2007 at 3:03 pmMr. Bush, why do you hate the troops?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:03 pmSo much for freedom of speech for our military.
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 31, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Aren’t they over there DEFENDING OUR FREEDOMS? That’s what they keep telling us anyway.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:04 pmIt would be interesting to know who is making the censoring decision. Where is it coming from? I mean Pace is talking about bringing troops back, Gate’s is kept out of the inner circle. Who is in charge?
Could it be mad dog Cheney?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:04 pmIt could certainly be argued that ThinkProgress gives comfort and encouragement to America’s enemies.
Comment by Ringo — August 31, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Our Soldiers are not the enemy, Ringo!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:05 pmBTW - Some hard-Right sites have also been blocked. And Military bloggers have to have their posts reviewed.
This is all normal in a war zone, only in the past it was letters, magazines and radio broadcasts that were censored.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:06 pmI sell Blue Coat technology. You can set filters on anything you want. Any organization has the right to censor what their members read. Especially if they are not paying for it. You can block under categories like Hate Web Sites, Gambling, etc. I think Think Progress would fall under the Wacko Websites by Left-Wing Conspiracist Nutjobs. It’s a very small category.
Think Progress censors news like Hillary Clinton’s shady connections with Norman Hsu. Not word one on the website after 3 full days. Kind of callling the tea pot black here aren’t we?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:06 pmGo to the source dlet Google, think, etc. Do not allow someone to think for you.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:06 pm“It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.”
Voltaire
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:06 pmGEORGE ORWELL
Comment by Ringo — August 31, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
fixed this for you:
It could certainly be argued that ThinkProgress gives comfort and encouragement to America’s Soldiers.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:07 pmTP is pure Leftist propaganda.
Comment by Ringo — August 31, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Why do you think the troops are not able to make their own choices? This seriously doesn’t trouble you in the least?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:07 pm“It could certainly be argued that ThinkProgress gives comfort and encouragement to America’s enemies.
Comment by Ringo “
Oh come on Ringo. Do you really think that “america’s enemies” read TP? And if they did, they would be laughing their asses off about what this site has become, pretty much nothing but inane posting by moronic trolls and people who I believe to be intelligent playing with the trolls.
If I was an alien and I logged on to this site, I would immediately decide not to bother with this planet because there is no reason to contact a planet full of 12 year olds. Because that’s pretty much how most people on this blog act, like a 12 year old.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:07 pmSeems like the logical move when ramping up for an invasion. Isolate the soldier, feed him what you want to feed him and prepare him to attack Iran.
The military does have the right to limit information into it’s ranks. I disagree with the radical right here but I see the rationale. I remember hearing a DI say “we (soldier’s) will give up our freedoms so others may keep theirs.” A soldier is govt. property so what did anyone expect from this administration. They are the injured beast trapped in a corner. This is when they are the most dangerous.
It’s also why I will fight harder to end this conflict, expose this administration for the butchers that they are
August 31st, 2007 at 3:08 pmMargaret - If you were in the middle of a military conflict - IT would be disastrous. But TP highlights ONLY negative news from Iraq……hardly “fair and balanced”……
August 31st, 2007 at 3:08 pmIt’s rather interesting to think that these soldiers are fighting and dying for democracy in Iraq… while the country that is sending them overseas to fight and die is denying them one of the pillars of a free society.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Bush
August 31st, 2007 at 3:08 pmWe should all watch what we say on this website. One day in the not to distant future we will wake up in the middle of the night by stormtroopers and be led off to “re-education camps†for our unacceptable views. Think it can’t happen?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:09 pm#15 - Margaret I totally agree, troops need to know that many of us are doing what we can to get them home.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:09 pmThe problem is, defense contractors need our military over there to protect the civilian workers. Why do you think we have so many bases built over there. Only marching in the streets will get our people back.
Ringo - National Review and Fox News is pure right-wing propaganda. Our troops deserve to hear ALL sides of the argument going on here, and judge for themselves. Frankly, they are in the best position to know the truth of how successful their efforts are over there, and WE need to hear more of their unfiltered comments. If the military is shutting down access to political/activist blogs and websites, what the hell are THEY so afraid of? And I’d like to know who, exactly, ordered this type of access shutdown.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:09 pmTP is as american as every other website in this country. TP has a right to voice it’s opinions and it’s valued by many as a place where voices other than the preapproved right can speak.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:09 pmBush-
August 31st, 2007 at 3:10 pmWe’re censoring information over there so we can distort information over here.
Please pray for the troops.
Besides, after reading and responding to emails, how much time does one have in a ‘war’ zone to surf the net???
August 31st, 2007 at 3:10 pmCongratulations TP.
Now you know what it feels like to be banned.
Maybe you’ll think about that next time you get ready to ban me again?
:D
August 31st, 2007 at 3:10 pmAnd meanwhile, each U.S. Marine was given a packet with a prayer book and tear-off pledge sheet to pledge their religious allegiance and asked to “Pray to George Bush”.
http://www.abc.net.au/ news/ stories/ 2003/ 03/ 30/ 819685.htm
August 31st, 2007 at 3:11 pmComment by Ned — August 31, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
At least we’ll all get to meet each other face to face.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:11 pm“I think they are doing a good job just to function over there. They are not meant to do what they are being asked to do…whatever that is…
Comment by dlet “
That’s the biggest problem affecting the morale of our troops today. They have no idea why they are in Iraq. They have no idea who the enemy really is. All they can do is concentrate on living from one day to the next. How would you like to wake up every morning not knowing if it would be your last, and not know why you are doing this.
And, please don’t tell me that they are over there fighting “terrorists”. A large majority of who they are fighting are insurgents, people who want us out of their country.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:11 pmMighty Aphrodite:
I agree with everything you said about Think Communist except this statement. This website is not even a ripple in the ocean. It has very little effect. George Soros is wasting his money here thank God.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:11 pmSo, m.a., if we all chipped in and sent you to Iraq——you would feel you were being “supported”?
There is no American military solution to this fiasco. How much evidence do you need?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:11 pmJingo sez (emphasis mine):
Jingo speaks the truest words of the day…pity it was unintentional.
They’ll revoke your troll license for certain for this, Jingo… ^_^
August 31st, 2007 at 3:11 pmThey did the same in ‘Nam, opening packages from home & snooping.
They didn’t want to ‘politicize’ the troops fighting a political war.
Hey W, getting kind of lonely up there by yourself?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:12 pmExcellent choice. This will help the military better defeat the enemy, rather than having a monkey on its back claiming they can do no right.
You’ve earned this, TP, never reporting the good that our troops are doing there. In effect, you have been bashing the troops.
Have some cheese with your whine.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:12 pm“NO accomplishments - - but “You Support the Troopsâ€, right????
Comment by mighty aphrodite”
3 of 18 goals were met.
Gonzo gone
Rove gone
Warner gone.
At least 3 accomplishemtns were met….not bad for one week.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:13 pmYou can’t tell me that these 3 leaving doesn’t Support the Troops!!!!!!!!
Let’s see. The GAO report shows that the Iraqi government has failed ot meet benchmarks designed by the Bush administration. Violence is up in Iraq. Our troops are doing the best to keep themselves alive and keep Iraqi civilians alive. However, they are not trained for an insurgency/civil war.
It is possible to support the troops, to urge that they have adequate arms and armor, the best medical care and benefits, and still oppose a war based on either shoddy or cherrypicked intelligence. One can support the troops by portraying what is accurately happening and ask for a change in policy. Indeed, it seems thatthere are people who believe that supporting the troops is to support the policies of the administration without question. I failed to see the Republicans doing so in the wars in the Balkans when William Jefferson Clinton was president. Indeed, despite ethnic cleansing, rape, and murder, the cry from many on the Right was “No war for Monica.” So, are people who are opposed to this war supposed to be silent and support censorship.
Also, reporting good news and bad news reflects reality. Thomas Jefferson said that democracy can only work for an informed citizenry. Yet we seem to have people who do not wish the troops to be informed, making me wonder if they agree with Thomas Jefferson’s statement. To censor speech is usually a sign that someone is afraid of a message. I am one American who choses not to live in fear, nor do I with to see others silenced by those who fear free speech and informed citizens.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:14 pm# 28 - Do you really believe our military are so dumb they can’t find lying conservative sites? Why like the Young Republican website manned by all those war loving young people who have “other priorities” but sure want others to bleed for them.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:15 pmNice. TP=DP…
August 31st, 2007 at 3:15 pm“But TP highlights ONLY negative news from Iraq……hardly “fair and balancedâ€â€¦â€¦
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:08 pm”
This IS NOT Fox News, where they MAKE UP the news…….
You may not like the TRUTH, but at least they are providing the TRUTH as best they can………
You keep hiding under the covers with your hands over your ears yelling “LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA”
August 31st, 2007 at 3:16 pmThey didn’t want to ‘politicize’ the troops fighting a political war.
Comment by Zimzone
No sh*t!
F*cking wingnuts know nothing but playing politics with everything, while claiming they’re anti-government.
george W. bush and his supporters = H Y P O C R I T E S .
August 31st, 2007 at 3:16 pmComment by Liberalismisdead — August 31, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Good point. The troops in the field probably don’t believe this to be groundbreaking. Thinkprogress.org thinks too much of its presence on the web, but in reality it doesn’t hold a candle to the viewership of militarycorruption.com (NOT a loony-lefty website, may I add).
August 31st, 2007 at 3:16 pmCT_V1 sez:
Oh, yes…either that, or it will drive even more soldiers to suicide, because they believe (thanks to the government-controlled flow of information), that they are being abandoned to die for a country whose citizens don’t give a shit about them.
Real nice, CT. Compassionate conservatism at its very best.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:16 pmNed, you’ve posted twice now a “warning” about watching what we say on this website. If you want to live in fear, knock yourself out. The reason we are in so much trouble in this country right now is because the fear card has been played endlessly since 911, and too many people have bought into it. I’m not one of them.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:17 pmGot proof of that? Which ones?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:17 pmIs anyone sure they can reach Right Wing Blogs like Redstate, or is it a bunch of assumptions based on zero fact?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:17 pmI heard TP has called Jane Fonda, Rosie O’Donnell and Sean Penn to strategize different ways to indoctrinate the sleeping populace since they’ve been banned from the view of the military. I heard George Soros is hopping mad and is now giving money directly to N. Korea and Iran. He needs more people to launder his money since Norman Hsu and the Paw families scheme has been uncovered.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:17 pm“I think Think Progress would fall under the Wacko Websites by Left-Wing Conspiracist Nutjobs. It’s a very small category.”
So what. I think Faux News falls into the catagory of Neo-Facist Right-Wing Propaganda Nutjobs. Why support only one side?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:18 pmI’m always amazed at how easily the righties embrace such utterly un-American policies. We see who the true enemies of the American way of life are. Those who would applaud censorship of reading materials for the very people who are supposedly fighting to protect freedom of thought and discourse disgust me.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:18 pmMaybe the military looked at all the excuses being given for not signing up by conservative trolls on these message threads while urging our troops to keep dying in a hellhole that they thought THAT was bad for troop morale.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:19 pmAll right wingers here who are supporting the censoring of TP should at least take note and offer a word of thanks that they aren’t censored here.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:19 pmWouldn’t want the military to learn the truth about how badly they are being used.
Oh, wait, they already know. Too late.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:19 pmct-v1 sounds like someone is forcing our soldiers to read TP. They aren’t, it’s called “freedom”.
liberalismisdead sounds like he thinks he knows more about Iraq than Maj. Gen. John Batiste.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:20 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — August 31, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Ever come to grips that your posts say a whole lot of nothing?
Do yourself a favor and don’t address me. It’s not American of me to associate with leftist, communist, and posturing scum of the highest degree. Other posters, they’re fine compared to you.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:20 pmYou tell ‘em, Auntie Mighty Aphrodite!
Them soldiers participating in Our Glorious Leader’s Great and Noble Cause shouldn’t be reading progressive blogs. They should be out there KILLING! KILL! KILL KILL KILL!!
‘Cause you and the rest of the Stateside Battalion just don’t have the time to do it.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:20 pmThe greatest accomplishment would be Bush and Cheney leaving, today. Do the election this year, before the electronic machines can be rigged.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:20 pmWhat if they access the site through an anonymous IP site? Like Anonymouse?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:21 pm“Margaret - If you were in the middle of a military conflict - IT would be disastrous. But TP highlights ONLY negative news from Iraq……hardly “fair and balancedâ€â€¦â€¦
Comment by mighty aphrodite”
The using your rationale, the military should block Faux Noise from the military because they report only faux “positive news” from Iraq…..hardly “fair and balanced”.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:22 pmSounds like the military is very, very afraid of websites that have a problem with the chymp. Very sad. Perhaps a sister site can be set up to shadow…??? ThankProfess???
August 31st, 2007 at 3:22 pm“I heard TP has called Jane Fonda, Rosie O’Donnell and Sean Penn to strategize different ways to indoctrinate the sleeping populace since they’ve been banned from the view of the military. I heard George Soros is hopping mad and is now giving money directly to N. Korea and Iran. He needs more people to launder his money since Norman Hsu and the Paw families scheme has been uncovered.”
Either provide some links to these accusations or admit you’re a lying sack or jesusshit.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:22 pmliberalismisdead sounds like he thinks he knows more about Iraq than Maj. Gen. John Batiste.
Comment by Keith — August 31, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
liberismisdead doesn’t even know the most rudimentary history, military or otherwise.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:23 pm“Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 31, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Ever come to grips that your posts say a whole lot of nothing?
Do yourself a favor and don’t address me. It’s not American of me to associate with leftist, communist, and posturing scum of the highest degree. Other posters, they’re fine compared to you.
Comment by CT_V1″
Keep it up TripMaster, you’ve struck a nerve!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:24 pmAccording to the graphic provided by TP, it says the category “Political/Activist Groups; Blogs/Newsgroups” are being blocked. That should cover the wingnut blog sites as well. The trolls can get all snarky about TP being leftist propaganda, but it appears the filter affects all blog sites, so we can’t take it personally or assume a bias on the part of the military.
It’s a pity though — it means that we won’t get to hear the POV of the soldiers fighting over there.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:25 pmYou know if the soliders were not reading TP, then no one would have noticed the ban.
So for those of you cheering on this ban, keep in mind, you’re cheering on the taking away of the soldiers right to read what they choose to read.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:25 pmWelcome to fascist America - where 160,000 Citizens! dont have a right to view news as it is reported.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:26 pmHas anyone noticed that since the first two incidents of fragging, we haven’t heard of any other issues of the troops killing their commanding officers? There were a couple officers killed at that first one. years ago now. The military has effectively imprisoned our soldiers in a world they can’t escape, and prevents them from communicating to the world over here. They write all that does get here. Correspondents are now, …. well, Michael Ware? Are there any more?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:26 pmsounds unlike our old country
I wonder if any of these same spineless gutter tripes (aka Trolls) could point out factually inaccurate information provided on this website.
Anyone of you nameless pissants care to show some evidence? Or are you comfortable with spreading fear without fact?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:26 pmPoll of our troops in Iraq February 2006 showed 72% thought all troops should be out by Feb. 2007. Nearly 90% had the false belief that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075
August 31st, 2007 at 3:26 pmTo those who are anti-TP,
Has TP ever posted anything that was not true? There may be isolated incidents. Or do you just not like the FACTS that are being brought into the light by TP?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:26 pmThe timing is a bit suspect considering that it was just a week ago that Ret. Maj. Gen. John Batiste’s post appeared here.
And might virus you’re right about one thing - it would be disastrous if I was in a military conflict. But only disastrous for me because I’m sure I’d get killed in no time. No stomach for violence at all.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:27 pm“It’s not American of me to associate with leftist, communist, and posturing scum of the highest degree. Other posters, they’re fine compared to you.
Comment by CT_V1 — August 31, 2007 @ 3:20 pm”
YOU are CLEARLY not a TRUE American……..
I remember something like “….. Justice for all”, and “United States”……
Not Republican justice, and Republican states!!!
Even though I find you to be the enemy against the Constitution, sadly you are still an American for the moment……
That is the problem with you Right Wing NUTS!!!!! YOU think this country is YOURS and ONLY YOURS!!!!!!!
Sorry chump, but this VET says OTHERWISE!!!!!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:27 pmthe taking away of the soldiers right to read what they choose to read.
EXACTLY!
Bush looks down on EVERYONE, treats the troops like checkers, and will take away their basic rights faster tha-
August 31st, 2007 at 3:27 pmThinkprogress.org logic: Without our cutesy presence on any base and in any war, the, um, U.S. definitely definitely definitely loses.
Thinkprogress.org has a fine staff of political drama-queens.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:27 pmCT_V1 sez:
That’s your opinion. Given the opinions of most other people here, it would appear that your opinion is wrong. Come to grips with that.
Oh dear…am I on your ‘ignore list’ now?
You listen to me, you sniveling little toady. If you don’t want me to address you, you’re free to leave. But if you insist on posting your jingoistic bullshit here, I’m going to slap you down every day of the week. Count on it.
Clearly, you and I have a very different opinion of what is and what is not American, you goosestepping slime.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:29 pmLOL the Pentagon is scared of TP and the posts on the threads now.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:29 pmWingnuts are “loss-fixated” because they are so good at failing.
HECKUVA JOB, LOSERS!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:29 pmGo away CT_V1, we’re all unamerican here, by your standard. Which means we’re real Americans, not neofacist chickenhawk cowards.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:29 pmThey are desperate, and it won’t work.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:29 pmI wonder if posts that mysteriously vanish are deleted by the Pentagon?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:30 pmComment by Bobwurst — August 31, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
Sure, given the fact that you leftists shouldn’t reside in this patriotic country, it’ll strike anyone’s nerve that people like yourself live here.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:30 pm#40 - Liberalismisdead - Leftards subscribe to the illusion that stateless enemies can be reasoned with. TP’s delusions of importance overlook the fact that terror cells are alive and well in the US and the rest of the West - and progs contribute to the safe haven of our enemies.
When I last heard from my brother on July 27th, (he is an active duty Navy aviator) he was pleased with the efforts of the surge. Increased Iraqi intelligence has been beneficial for planners of the surge….not that you would know it from reading TP…..
Keep up the good fight!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:31 pmComment by CT_V1 — August 31, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
I think YOU are a drama queen
August 31st, 2007 at 3:31 pmwhat an honor to be called a Political/Activists - Our work is paying off then
I wonder what reaction i will get tommoro with my “troops Out” teashirt
August 31st, 2007 at 3:31 pmComment by Bobwurst — August 31, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
Sure, given the fact that you leftists shouldn’t reside in this patriotic country, it’ll strike anyone’s nerve that people like yourself live here.
Comment by CT_V1
Seig Heil! Isn’t it time for you to sodomize your mother’s corpse again?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:32 pmFighting for fascism at home and abroad… Your Bush crime family hard at work destroying freedom in the USA and The Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere…
August 31st, 2007 at 3:32 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
A survey of one. And the one is the brother of m.a.
Well, you certainly know more than Mr. Zogby and his company (sarcasm).
August 31st, 2007 at 3:32 pmwe must be all be on that pentagon database aswell -
if your on the database does that mean you dont get drafted
August 31st, 2007 at 3:32 pmRepublicans don’t want returning troops to be on guard when they use the bathrooms in airports.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:34 pmI retired from the military in 2000. Every facility I went into was tuned to FAUX news….and this was pre-chimpy.
These banned sites do not surprise me in the least. I bet you a dollar to a donut they can access redstate dot com.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:34 pmComment by CT_V1
Seig Heil! Isn’t it time for you to sodomize your mother’s corpse again?
Comment by Bobwurst
yes CT_V1 used to be a necrophiliac till some rotten C*nt split on him
August 31st, 2007 at 3:35 pmwe must be all be on that pentagon database as well -
Comment by Tobey Tall
And the cowardly trolls here too!
BE AFRAID!! BE VERY, VERY AFRAID!!!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:35 pmSure, given the fact that you leftists shouldn’t reside in this patriotic country,
Comment by CT_V1 — August 31, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
Who needs mighty virus’s U.S. “terror cells” when we can just fight amongst ourselves? At the rate we’re going, thanks to Bush and Rove and all of the other “uniters” we’ll just have our our little civil war here in the U.S.!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:35 pmComment by TripMaster Monkey — August 31, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
Perhaps, Mr. Monkey, you don’t know how to follow instructions…
You are effectively banned, barging in where you don’t belong. I’m not banned, so you are the actual outcast here. So yes, I’m perfectly within my right to ask you not to address me, as you are that outcast.
I really must have struck a nerve. Couldn’t have happened to a dumber monkey. Keep rambling like the anarchist, uninvited lefty you are.
Now run along, as TP instructed you to do long ago.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:36 pmI just wish Jeff Gannon Guckert the gay male escort which the Secret Service says entered the White House 196 times from 2004 to 2005 would give his opinion.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:36 pmMargaret - If you were in the middle of a military conflict - IT would be disastrous. But TP highlights ONLY negative news from Iraq……hardly “fair and balancedâ€â€¦â€¦
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
When exactly has TP ever purported to be “fair and balanced” , mighty hermaphrodite ?
And what in the hell makes you an expert on what is appropriate for those in the middle of a military conflict ?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:37 pmYou’re a descendent of Patton’s or MacArthur’s ?
Remember Bagdad Bob? So…..Rush replaces him-and has an equally firm grip on reality. Our very own Tokyo Rose. Imagine what the average American would do if some country arbitrarily decided to put little boots out of our misery. That might be the one thing to save his sorry excuse of a self for the histoy books. This county has been blown to hell, it is in a civil war and all the bullshit in the world will not put it together again. The Iraqi people must do this for themselves. If they are waiting on the wisdom of W or the diplomatic skills of Condi, or the courage of Chickenhawk in Chief Cheney-God help them. Trolls are so funny-our fundamental freedoms themselves set down by the founding fathers only belong to sheep. Honesty and open debate=treason. Can’t stand the heat, you don’t belong in the kitchen.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:37 pmI’m at school right now, but I’ll be back to kick some leftist ass soon!!!
Comment by Mr. President — August 31, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Maybe the short bus will be on time today.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:37 pmI’m at school right now, but I’ll be back to kick some leftist ass soon!!!
Comment by Mr. President
Yeah, Right!! /snark
August 31st, 2007 at 3:37 pmToo bad you chickened out showing at the boxing ring, Dr Dog, err Mr Pee-pants. bahahahahahaha
Keith quotes an 18 month old poll by Arab sympathizer James Zogby and expects anyone to be impressed…..nice try.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:38 pmNot one of the blowhard chickenhawks have even attempted to show there are any untrue subjects within TP.
Not one can show any evidence to even support their twisted side.
Thanks TP for continuing to push for the Truth.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:39 pmI guess the military doesn’t read the trolls who post here. Instead of banning TP, they should have requested the personal information on the trolls so they could be recruited to serve in the illegal war conducted ( I use that term loosely) by the administration they love so much.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:39 pmThere is success I tell you….lots of it…..somewhere…..here let me list all the success going on in Iraq…..( ) ( ) & ( ).
See just look at all that success.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:39 pmSome of the comments here are reminding me of quotes from two great writers.
That man is little to be envied whose patriotism would not gain force upon the plain of Marathon, or whose piety would not grow warmer among the ruins of Iona.
- Samuel Johnson, Journey to the Western Islands (1775), Inch Kenneth
Some claim a place in the list of patriots, by an acrimonious and unremitting opposition to the court. This mark is by no means infallible. Patriotism is not necessarily included in rebellion. A man may hate his king, yet not love his country. - Samuel Johnson, The Patriot (1774)
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, The Live of Samuel Johnson, April 7, 1775, p. 253.
“In Dr. Johnson’s famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer, I beg to submit that it is the first.â€â€”Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary, at entry for patriotism, The Collected Writings of Ambrose Bierce, p. 323
August 31st, 2007 at 3:39 pmGood Morning Vietnam!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:39 pmMilitary’s Information War Is Vast and Often Secretive
By JEFF GERTH
“The media center in Fayetteville, N.C., would be the envy of any global communications company …
“The center is not part of a news organization, but a military operation, and those writers and producers are soldiers. The 1,200-strong psychological operations unit based at Fort Bragg turns out what its officers call “truthful messages” to support the United States government’s objectives, though its commander acknowledges that those stories are one-sided and their American sponsorship is hidden.
“We call our stuff information and the enemy’s propaganda,” said Col. Jack N. Summe, then the commander of the Fourth Psychological Operations Group, during a tour in June. Even in the Pentagon, “some public affairs professionals see us unfavorably,” and inaccurately, he said, as “lying, dirty tricksters.”
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2005/ 12/ 11/ politics/ 11propaganda.html?pagewa
August 31st, 2007 at 3:40 pmInstead of deleting lines coming off a telex machine they just block web sites.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:40 pmHey Bobwurst. Hate to ruin your idea that TP hasn’t censored. Trolls are always getting censored and have to reinvent new screen names.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:40 pmSure, given the fact that you leftists shouldn’t reside in this patriotic country,
Comment by CT_V1 — August 31, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
According to whom ?
Those that make up the most stupid minority to ever live here ?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:40 pmThe Chimpy Adoration Brigade ; where “patriotism” is those who believe unswervingly , the worst president in US history’s every English-mangling speech filled with lies……..
Comment by Mr. President — August 31, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Mr. President, good day!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see that in addition to your classes, you are taking on the development of two sites destined for world-wide viewing.
Keep at it, Mr. President. Now I’ll read your newest site!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:41 pmSo much for freedom of speech for our military.
Comment by bilbobaggins — August 31, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Freedom of speech is very limited for members of the military already, so why is this a surprize?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:41 pmTP’s delusions of importance overlook the fact that terror cells are alive and well in the US…
Comment by mighty aphrodite
But Auntie Mighty Aphrodite! I thought the soldiers were fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here!?
Oh, now I remember! You and the rest of the Stateside Battalion are fighting the IslamoFascistHomoCommieHippieLiberals here!
Go get ‘em, Auntie Mighty Aphrodite!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:41 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Haven’t seen this piece of sh!t traitor in a while.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:41 pmSure, given the fact that you leftists shouldn’t reside in this patriotic country,
Comment by CT_V1 — August 31, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
CT…you just quoted Hitler in the 30’s and McCarthey in the 50’s. Why do you repugs hate our freedoms so much you want to give them away?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:41 pm“Pray to George Bushâ€?/
Pray TO that bastard?
Chimpy thinks he;s God now
August 31st, 2007 at 3:41 pmOne way to look at the trolls, think how boring it would be if all 75% of Americans that want troops home were on this site. Got to have a few that would disagree just to disagree. Trolls love getting a rise out of anyone.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:42 pmApparently now TP doesn’t think censorship is such a good idea - after all these months of deleting posts and banning people for telling the truth.
What goes around, comes around.
FREE SPEECH IS NOT NEGOTIABLE
August 31st, 2007 at 3:42 pmAt what point is Think Progress and all the other banned sites going to either file a lawsuit against the Department of Defense, or is going to demand Congress take a look at this issue? Don’t you have an obligation to use your voice to allow our troops the same constitutional rights the rest of our citizens have?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:42 pmKeith quotes an 18 month old poll by Arab sympathizer James Zogby and expects anyone to be impressed…..nice try.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Yeah , it is much more prudent to believe the worst president in US history who is a habitual liar , and who has been claiming for over 4 years how things are going great in Iraq……
August 31st, 2007 at 3:43 pmComment by MCMetal — August 31, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Can you imagine what this country would be like if it was filled with just Bush-supporters?! Yikes! Sounds like the setting for a horror movie!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:43 pmComment by ace — August 31, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
nail.on.head
August 31st, 2007 at 3:43 pmFreedom of speech is very limited for members of the military already, so why is this a surprize?
Comment by hacker bob — August 31, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Yes, keep in mind that this is our all volunteer slave army.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:43 pmS Korea criticised for hostage deal
Taliban received $2m for the release of 19 hostages, Japanese newspaper claims.
what a nice and caring goverment - your worth nothing being American or British
August 31st, 2007 at 3:43 pmFrankly, I prefer the trolls hang out here. At least they’re off the streets and we’re all much safer.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:44 pmWhen I last heard from my brother on July 27th, (he is an active duty Navy aviator) he was pleased with the efforts of the surge. Increased Iraqi intelligence has been beneficial for planners of the surge….not that you would know it from reading TP…..
Keep up the good fight!
Comment by mighty aphromethamphetamine — August 31, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
that’s your proof of “positive news” in Iraq? A mythical communication from your mythical brother? All associated with your mythical life?
Dear hagette, although meth addicts do not suffer from hallucinations, it is common that they do have schizophrenic episodes. You, my dahlin’, are constant schizo.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:44 pmMay I recommend a trip to your states Mental Health Program.
Zyprexa may be in tall order for you.
It could certainly be argued that ThinkProgress gives comfort and encouragement to America’s enemies.
Comment by Ringo — August 31, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Not intelligently, it couldn’t.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:44 pmSay, any of you trolls seeking employment I heard there are several openings at George’s house. Doesn’t take a great resume either, just dollars or daddy’s connections.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:44 pm“At the rate we’re going, thanks to Bush and Rove and all of the other “uniters†we’ll just have our our little civil war here in the U.S.!”
Comment by margaret
And with the number of lily-livered pacifists in your “camp” what do you think the outcome would be??
Seriously, I have a proposal. Lets’ divide the country into Red and Blue. Lets allow people the opportunity to move to the region which best reflects their political and social philosophy. Let Blue States tax the hell out of themselves and Red Staters can go with a flat tax. We can be civil neighbours - I doubt we’ll ever be allies. We will defend our border and should you suffer an attack you can lob marshmallows - daisies in rifle barrels will be a nice post-modern touch…..
August 31st, 2007 at 3:45 pmKeep at it, Mr. President. Now I’ll read your newest site!
Comment by CT_V1 — August 31, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Simple pleasures for simple minds
August 31st, 2007 at 3:45 pmApparently now TP doesn’t think censorship is such a good idea - after all these months of deleting posts and banning people for telling the truth.
What goes around, comes around.
FREE SPEECH IS NOT NEGOTIABLE
Comment by ace — August 31, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
What the fu*k is wrong you you fu*king idiots.
THERE ISN’T ANYBODY DELETING ANYTHING AT THINK PROGRESS. IT IS A PIECE OF SOFTWARE YOU CAN’T SEEM TO FIGURE OUT. WHY IS IT THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY POSTS TELLING YOU TO GO FU*K YOURSELF MAKES IT THROUGH? BECAUSE I AM SMARTER THAN A STUPID PIECE OF SOFTWARE AND YOU AREN’T. MORONS.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:45 pmThink Progress censors news like Hillary Clinton’s shady connections with Norman Hsu. Not word one on the website after 3 full days. Kind of callling the tea pot black here aren’t we?
Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 31, 2007 @ 3:06 pm
see, you dumb shit, that news you just delivered? Not censored. You are an idiot.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:45 pmThinkprogress.org = the monkey on the back of the U.S. Military
August 31st, 2007 at 3:46 pmKeith quotes an 18 month old poll by Arab sympathizer James Zogby and expects anyone to be impressed…..nice try.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
John Zogby is the pollster. James Zogby is president of the Arab American Institute.
Don’t you people know anything?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:48 pmFeuding Iraqi Sunnis and Shiites meet at peace seminar in Finland
August 31st, 2007 at 3:48 pmRepresentatives of feuding Sunni and Shiite groups in Iraq were meeting at a seminar behind closed doors Friday to discuss ways of ending the bloodshed, conference organizers said.
Good
After months of banning me from responding to posters here that were using my Soldiers name as a moniker, disrespecting his service, his family, and his friends, I think that its just a case of Murphy’s Law.
Banning those that have things to say that are relevant to a conversation, but allowing those who spew nothing but hatred on this site to continue posting is what TP has been about for months now.
So I have no sympathy.
Lets see if this gets thru.
RIP
August 31st, 2007 at 3:48 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
And with the number of lily-livered pacifists in your “camp†what do you think the outcome would be??
Seriously, I have a proposal. Lets’ divide the country into Red and Blue. Lets allow people the opportunity to move to the region which best reflects their political and social philosophy. Let Blue States tax the hell out of themselves and Red Staters can go with a flat tax. We can be civil neighbours - I doubt we’ll ever be allies. We will defend our border and should you suffer an attack you can lob marshmallows - daisies in rifle barrels will be a nice post-modern touch…..
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
Where does an imbecile like yourself get the idea that those not insanely stupid like yourself that worship at the altar of the horseshit GOP , are “lily livered pacifists” ?
I got news for you , you ignorant skid mark ; there is no bigger bunch of pansies than the ones currently adorning the moniker “Repbulican”.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:48 pmThey are all chickenshit chickenhawks , and would get their asses kicked by a Girl Scout troop
Freedom of speech is very limited for members of the military already, so why is this a surprize?
Comment by hacker bob — August 31, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Yes, keep in mind that this is our all volunteer slave army.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
so true, once you sign up, Uncle Sam owns you, lock stock and barrel, you are then US Government Property.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:49 pmmighty virus you really should seek help.
I was alluding to how divided we are and you just jumped right in like the eager beaver you are. Who would you spew your battery acid at if you only lived with violent people like yourself?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:49 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
You quote your brother and expect us to be impressed.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:50 pmFudgepacker Boy is living in a dream world. Maybe because you support TP???? Ever consider that numbnuts? Once you get tagged here, you have to change your screen name because it prevents you from posting. I used to be under the name “Eric” but can’t anymore.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:50 pmThank you for correcting me, Troika! You will find that both John AND James very pro-Arab & Palestinian. (They are kind of like the male versions of Helen Thomas.)
August 31st, 2007 at 3:50 pmHey Hughjass………..TP censors it by not putting it as a story on this communist website. Are you really that stupid?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:51 pmNo wonder we can’t do anything about the civil war in Iraq when the Bush/surge/insanity supporters have no idea how to bring people together. In fact they eschew dipolomacy so basically we screwed.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:52 pm“THERE ISN’T ANYBODY DELETING ANYTHING AT THINK PROGRESS. IT IS A PIECE OF SOFTWARE YOU CAN’T SEEM TO FIGURE OUT. WHY IS IT THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY POSTS TELLING YOU TO GO FU*K YOURSELF MAKES IT THROUGH? BECAUSE I AM SMARTER THAN A STUPID PIECE OF SOFTWARE AND YOU AREN’T. MORONS.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — August 31, 2007 @ 3:45 pm”
Spudge, if the posts are NOT making it to the thread then what do you call it????
Who cares if it is a SOFTWARE or a PERSON sitting there??????
If the posts are being sifted through and purged based on certain criteria, by DEFINITION that is CENSORING!
CALM DOWN!!!!!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:53 pmCT_V1 sez:
Or, perhaps, I don’t “take instructions” from subhuman slime such as yourself.
Wrong, loser. My ban was rescinded as of yesterday. Pity that that inconvenient little fact obviates your entire post.
From the tone of the posts here, it’s plain to see which one of us is the ‘outcast’.
I’m not going anywhere. If you can’t handle me, I suggest you leave.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:53 pmAn old girlfriend serving in the Army in Iraq knows of the thinkprog anti-American defeatest (can’t repeat what she really calls you). I just gave her the good news. “Good riddance” is the quote…minus the expletives. You liberal democrats sure know how to piss off the military. Keep it up! They can do without your “support”.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:54 pmWe should all watch what we say on this website. One day in the not to distant future we will wake up in the middle of the night by stormtroopers and be led off to “re-education camps†for our unacceptable views. Think it can’t happen?
Comment by Ned — August 31, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
A little self-important, eh there, ned?
August 31st, 2007 at 3:54 pmmargaret, I said we’d be civil neighbours…..We would enjoy making jokes about you….all in good-natured fun.
BTW, you might want to use a pumice stone on those dirty, dry cracked heels showing from your Birkenstocks….soap and a lotion are miraculous.
Tooodles………..
August 31st, 2007 at 3:55 pm#
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
You quote your brother and expect us to be impressed.
Comment by Keith — August 31, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
I don’t believe she has a brother. She’s been busted in so many lies, I’m
not sure why she bothers to post at all.
I do know that she is one freaky little thing. I saw the myspace page.
yikes.
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ace sez:
Amen, brother. Either speech is free for all, or it’s not really free at all.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:55 pmBush/Cheney = the 800 pound gorilla on the back of the U.S. Military.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:55 pm“Leftards subscribe to the illusion that stateless enemies can be reasoned with.”
And wingnuts believe stateless enemies can be dealt with by attacking states.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:55 pm#
An old girlfriend serving in the Army in Iraq knows of the thinkprog anti-American defeatest (can’t repeat what she really calls you). I just gave her the good news. “Good riddance†is the quote…minus the expletives. You liberal democrats sure know how to piss off the military. Keep it up! They can do without your “supportâ€.
Comment by steed — August 31, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
Liar.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:56 pmAnd meanwhile, each U.S. Marine was given a packet with a prayer book and tear-off pledge sheet to pledge their religious allegiance and asked to “Pray to George Bushâ€.
http://www.abc.net.au/ news/ stories/ 2003/ 03/ 30/ 819685.htm
Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — August 31, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Ha! This was one of the prayers they were supposed to say:
“Pray that the President and his advisers will seek God and his wisdom daily and not rely on their own understanding”.
Looks like that prayer fell on deaf ears.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:56 pmLOL the trolls have “other Priorities” much like Deadeye dick and Clueless George.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:56 pmTP should not be barred for troops after all its only news with viewpoints
what the pentagon should do is grey out any Submit button
or should run another site without ” post - I agree” so the soldiers can see that were trying to get them out just like the Military Covenant says
August 31st, 2007 at 3:56 pmHEY!!!!! Remove Bush is back. How many others on this loony website are going to come out of the closet and admit they think 9/11 was an inside job? Remove Bush at least had the courage to admit he believes that. Any others have the courage to go public? I know more than half believe it. This is a concentration of conspiracists who believe the government is inherently corrupt. This is the black helicopter crowd. Yikes.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:57 pmUpright left - not important at all actually. It was just a thought.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:57 pmComment by steed — August 31, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
Your “old girlfriend” sounds like she’s a real lady! I can see why you keep in touch with her.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:58 pmJust Wonderful!
Bush has said numerous times that freedom is God’s gift to mankind. Freedom of speech, freedom of press, and freedom to assemble are basic human rights, and guaranteed in our own Constitution.
We’re told our troops are fighting and dying in an attempt to provide freedom to an oppressed people, and yet our troops are denied the same freedom.
The Washington Post reports this morning that propoganda disparaging Democratic lawmakers is being distributed to our troops and Iraqi officials prior to those lawmakers visiting the green zone in Bhagdad.
When will Bush realize that it is this very same divisive partisan facist propagandist crap that has lost him America’s, Iraq’s, and the worlds support and only further contributes to the DISGRACE that will be his legacy?!!!
August 31st, 2007 at 3:59 pm“so true, once you sign up, Uncle Sam owns you, lock stock and barrel, you are then US Government Property.
Comment by Wayne — August 31, 2007 @ 3:49 pm”
To a large degree this is very true. However, the only thing BINDING them is a contract……
If that contract is BROKEN by either party, then the contract if VOID AND NULL……
So, even though they may “own you”, you did sign up by agreeing to serve and give your time and x-time, but the govt. also agreed to do certain things too……
As a Vet, I know just what it means to sign those pieces of papers but that does not mean that they “own” me…..
Trust me…… I was a major thorn in the side of my leadership because I knew what the law stated and knew just what they could and couldnot do to me…….
So your statement, though as I said is largely true, is not completely accurate.
August 31st, 2007 at 3:59 pmWow Don. Good research. We already discussed that earlier. I wish I could sell Blue Coat to the companies TP conspiracists on here work for so they could get their as*es fired from their jobs. But then they probably have government jobs where they can’t get fired.
August 31st, 2007 at 4:00 pm#
HEY!!!!! Remove Bush is back. How many others on this loony website are going to come out of the closet and admit they think 9/11 was an inside job? Remove Bush at least had the courage to admit he believes that. Any others have the courage to go public? I know more than half believe it. This is a concentration of conspiracists who believe the government is inherently corrupt. This is the black helicopter crowd. Yikes.
Comment by Liberalismisdead — August 31, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
typed up like a true strong man blowhard, captain courageous.
August 31st, 2007 at 4:01 pmComment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — August 31, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Where does it say that troops were asked to pray TO Bush?
August 31st, 2007 at 4:01 pmSeriously, I have a proposal. Lets’ divide the country into Red and Blue. Lets allow people the opportunity to move to the region which best reflects their political and social philosophy. Let Blue States tax the hell out of themselves and Red Staters can go with a flat tax. We can be civil neighbours - I doubt we’ll ever be allies. We will defend our border and should you suffer an attack you can lob marshmallows - daisies in rifle barrels will be a nice post-modern touch…..
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 31, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
Seriously, let’s do that. Then we’ll know where to find you, and we will come and get you, and you will do nothing, as you’ve done against the islamic “menace”. Don’t kid yourself, you’d get the shit kicked out of you in a matter of hours. You’ve proven your rank cowardice for the past 6 years, and your ignorance would not stand you in good stead. You wouldn’t last a day.
August 31st, 2007 at 4:01 pmEveryone knows that the facts have a liberal bias, and must be stopped - it’s the fair and balanced thing to do.
August 31st, 2007 at 4:02 pm