Comments on: Petraeus to acknowledge low troop morale. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:46:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: vet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-2/#comment-4052133 vet Sat, 01 Sep 2007 11:15:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4052133 Has anyone here actually been deployed before? Has anyone here actually been deployed before?

]]> By: Frank Burns http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-2/#comment-4050655 Frank Burns Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:36:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050655 I have no doubt that if Petraeus tells Bush that the troops are being pushed beyond their limit his eyes will widen and he'll say, "WHAT? Why didn't someone tell me?? !! The troops well-being is my #1 concern! NOTHING matters more than taking care of our troops!! The US military deserve nothing short of my unconditional respect and concern!! As someone who admittedly did everything I could to avoid serving in war as these brave men and women are doing, I defer to those with experience and will ALWAYS listen to those military advisers with experiance, not any selfish, jingoistic, childish desires on my part! The 2 most important things to me are the saftey of the troops and the safety of the Amercan people!" And just about that time hell should be officially frozen over. I have no doubt that if Petraeus tells Bush that the troops are being pushed beyond their limit his eyes will widen and he’ll say, “WHAT? Why didn’t someone tell me?? !! The troops well-being is my #1 concern! NOTHING matters more than taking care of our troops!! The US military deserve nothing short of my unconditional respect and concern!! As someone who admittedly did everything I could to avoid serving in war as these brave men and women are doing, I defer to those with experience and will ALWAYS listen to those military advisers with experiance, not any selfish, jingoistic, childish desires on my part! The 2 most important things to me are the saftey of the troops and the safety of the Amercan people!”

And just about that time hell should be officially frozen over.

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050419 upside00 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:41:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050419 Notice how we lost the trolls on this thread after the first few posts. Guess thier morale is too low to participate. Notice how we lost the trolls on this thread after the first few posts.

Guess thier morale is too low to participate.

]]> By: cage free brown http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050416 cage free brown Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:41:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050416 oh yeah? well, I double dog dare Petraeus to say that on a message board!!! I know a few dozen trolls with a lot of time on their hands who can set him straight! who does he think he is???? oh yeah? well, I double dog dare Petraeus to say that on a message board!!! I know a few dozen trolls with a lot of time on their hands who can set him straight! who does he think he is????

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050306 toasterhead Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:18:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050306 <i>It’s a damn shame these troops got sent into this occupation by the president they have, instead of some rational, sane person. Comment by RUCerious — August 31, 2007 @ 12:53 pm</i> You go to war with the Commander-in-Chief you have, not the one you'd like to have. It’s a damn shame these troops got sent into this occupation by the president they have, instead of some rational, sane person.

Comment by RUCerious — August 31, 2007 @ 12:53 pm

You go to war with the Commander-in-Chief you have, not the one you’d like to have.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050222 RUCerious Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:53:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050222 It's a damn shame these troops got sent into this occupation by the president they have, instead of some rational, sane person. It’s a damn shame these troops got sent into this occupation by the president they have, instead of some rational, sane person.

]]> By: RUCerious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050218 RUCerious Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:52:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050218 The tour extensions will increase until morale improves!! The tour extensions will increase until morale improves!!

]]> By: dlet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050199 dlet Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:47:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050199 Bush is all for Americans who have 3 jobs and 3 tours of duty in a war zone...It's uniquely American. Bush is all for Americans who have 3 jobs and 3 tours of duty in a war zone…It’s uniquely American.

]]> By: dlet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050192 dlet Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:45:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050192 First who would believe Petraeus would forward such a comment to the president and second who would believe that the meaning of the comment would actually sink into the brain of Bush and cause a positive response? First who would believe Petraeus would forward such a comment to the president and second who would believe that the meaning of the comment would actually sink into the brain of Bush and cause a positive response?

]]> By: Stupid Jake http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050092 Stupid Jake Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:06:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050092 That's right Jake, those darn libs are to blame. It could not possibly be they 3 or 4 tours of duty there. It could not possibly be that they figured out that the war was all about control of oil. It could not possibly be that they are starting to think that this was an illegal war. Naw, it has nothing to do with that at all. It's those darn libs. That’s right Jake, those darn libs are to blame. It could not possibly be they 3 or 4 tours of duty there. It could not possibly be that they figured out that the war was all about control of oil. It could not possibly be that they are starting to think that this was an illegal war. Naw, it has nothing to do with that at all. It’s those darn libs.

]]> By: troqua http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050085 troqua Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:04:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050085 missmolly, W is not psychologically capable of empathy or concern. I'm sure he'll talk about how "we appreciate your sacrifice" and "it's hard work." If he addresses it at all. missmolly, W is not psychologically capable of empathy or concern. I’m sure he’ll talk about how “we appreciate your sacrifice” and “it’s hard work.” If he addresses it at all.

]]> By: missmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050081 missmolly Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:01:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050081 I'm glad that Durbin is concerned about troop morale. At least SOMEBODY is. The first question is -- did Petraeus mean what he said? He probably did (most generals do care about the morale of the men and women under them), and most likely will convey his concerns to Bush. The second question is -- will Bush attach any concern to the low morale of the troops? Not really. If his reaction is anything other than "la la la I can't hear you", it will be to make a speech blaming the low morale of the troops on those calling for withdrawal from Iraq. I’m glad that Durbin is concerned about troop morale. At least SOMEBODY is.

The first question is — did Petraeus mean what he said? He probably did (most generals do care about the morale of the men and women under them), and most likely will convey his concerns to Bush.

The second question is — will Bush attach any concern to the low morale of the troops? Not really. If his reaction is anything other than “la la la I can’t hear you”, it will be to make a speech blaming the low morale of the troops on those calling for withdrawal from Iraq.

]]> By: DanCaveman http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050069 DanCaveman Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:57:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050069 <blockquote>Meanwhile, Blackwater mercenaries are raking in $100,000 a year through government contracts. That might affect morale a bit, too. Comment by troqua — August 31, 2007 @ 11:45 am</blockquote> Actually, some are making $30,000 or so a month - tax free. At least that is what they had offered one of the SGTs I served with back in 2004 - 2005. With a cost-plus contract, why not. They make more money the more money they spend.

Meanwhile, Blackwater mercenaries are raking in $100,000 a year through government contracts.

That might affect morale a bit, too.

Comment by troqua — August 31, 2007 @ 11:45 am

Actually, some are making $30,000 or so a month – tax free. At least that is what they had offered one of the SGTs I served with back in 2004 – 2005.

With a cost-plus contract, why not. They make more money the more money they spend.

]]> By: VerbalKint http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050065 VerbalKint Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:55:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050065 Private security pay is more like $200K per year. Often there are several layers of subcontracts involved, with everyone taking a cut. The actual cost to field one private security guard is ca. $1 million, about five times as much as fielding a regular soldier. Private security pay is more like $200K per year. Often there are several layers of subcontracts involved, with everyone taking a cut. The actual cost to field one private security guard is ca. $1 million, about five times as much as fielding a regular soldier.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050063 Tobey Tall Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:54:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050063 we must never forget the tragic events of 912 we must never forget the tragic events of 912

]]> By: hacker bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050062 hacker bob Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:53:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050062 <em>“I expect the general to acknowledge to the president what I said about troop morale and the readiness of the troops to continue this battle at this level,” said Durbin. “He said as much over dinner.”</em> Sure sounds like Bush is writing that report, don't it? “I expect the general to acknowledge to the president what I said about troop morale and the readiness of the troops to continue this battle at this level,” said Durbin. “He said as much over dinner.”

Sure sounds like Bush is writing that report, don’t it?

]]> By: VerbalKint http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050061 VerbalKint Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:53:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050061 <em>Of course, the New York Times, Think Progress, and all DEFEATOCRATS have nothing to do with lower morale, right? Comment by Jake D. — August 31, 2007 @ 11:13 am</em> This koolaid drinker stuff isn't selling anymore. Of course, the New York Times, Think Progress, and all DEFEATOCRATS have nothing to do with lower morale, right?
Comment by Jake D. — August 31, 2007 @ 11:13 am

This koolaid drinker stuff isn’t selling anymore.

]]> By: NCBlueneck http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050057 NCBlueneck Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:52:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050057 Let's not forget where Blackwater is getting the money to pay their merc's $100,00 per year!!! Let’s not forget where Blackwater is getting the money to pay their merc’s $100,00 per year!!!

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050056 Tobey Tall Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:51:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050056 HAVE THE NEOCONS GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PRANK CALLS Comment by Tobey Tall — August 31, 2007 @ 11:38 am # Better question: If these calls were the real deal, with terrorist backing, would our current response be adequate? All these years later, and we still have no real standards for how we handle domestic terrorism. Better answer has there ever been another Muslim terror attack - No - what better way to piss hundreds and thoudsands of shoppers off , than neocons making fear mongering prank calls to justify staying in Iraq HAVE THE NEOCONS GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PRANK CALLS

Comment by Tobey Tall — August 31, 2007 @ 11:38 am
#

Better question:

If these calls were the real deal, with terrorist backing, would our current response be adequate? All these years later, and we still have no real standards for how we handle domestic terrorism.

Better answer

has there ever been another Muslim terror attack – No – what better way to piss hundreds and thoudsands of shoppers off , than neocons making fear mongering prank calls to justify staying in Iraq

]]> By: Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/comment-page-1/#comment-4050053 Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:50:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/petraeus-to-acknowledge-low-troop-morale/#comment-4050053 Yeah, the fact the troops are being used as traffic cops, security guards, and human shields to keep the various sides in a civil war from killing each other is something they probably delight in. In addition, they are allowed to "summer" among palm trees, sand, and 115 degree temperature and it's more like a nice vacation. And of course they have the closeted Republican Party that promises them that when they die, they will go to a nice garden of eden where they can drink coca cola all day and be serviced by 76 nude virgins all of which look just like George W. Bush. Yeah, the fact the troops are being used as traffic cops, security guards, and human shields to keep the various sides in a civil war from killing each other is something they probably delight in. In addition, they are allowed to “summer” among palm trees, sand, and 115 degree temperature and it’s more like a nice vacation.

And of course they have the closeted Republican Party that promises them that when they die, they will go to a nice garden of eden where they can drink coca cola all day and be serviced by 76 nude virgins all of which look just like George W. Bush.

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