Comments on: Sen. Warner retires. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:20:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Robt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4052030 Robt Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:08:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4052030 Warner goes at a time he thinks is god for him. Not good for America. It was good when he was in the majority and didn't ahave to actually work or ask questions or even answer hard questions of accountability for the use of the military. For Warner it isn't as much fun in the minority now. It's not so easy acting out the fantasy of superiority simply because his trusted elected position and happened to have majority powers that he allowed to be used by Bush and his Administration. Warner only recently started to imply some amount of independent dignity. What did the Administration black mail Warner with. Is Warner a Larry Craig in disguise? Warner goes at a time he thinks is god for him. Not good for America. It was good when he was in the majority and didn’t ahave to actually work or ask questions or even answer hard questions of accountability for the use of the military.

For Warner it isn’t as much fun in the minority now. It’s not so easy acting out the fantasy of superiority simply because his trusted elected position and happened to have majority powers that he allowed to be used by Bush and his Administration.

Warner only recently started to imply some amount of independent dignity. What did the Administration black mail Warner with. Is Warner a Larry Craig in disguise?

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051895 big papa Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:00:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051895 by leaving political life on a HIGH and NOBLE NOTE. Comment by Shirley #70 ...SHIIT! ...Warner sold his soul (if he ever had one)... ...like ALL of the Repulsivescum and Bluedog conned'selfserving retards! ...he's leaving DISGRACED, disgusTING, and disheveled... ...he's LOST any gravitas he ever had... ... acting as a tool for the murderous, thieving, TREASONOUS criminal Bushite junta... by leaving political life on a HIGH and NOBLE NOTE.

Comment by Shirley #70

…SHIIT!

…Warner sold his soul (if he ever had one)…

…like ALL of the Repulsivescum and Bluedog conned’selfserving retards!

…he’s leaving DISGRACED, disgusTING, and disheveled…

…he’s LOST any gravitas he ever had…

… acting as a tool for the murderous, thieving, TREASONOUS criminal Bushite junta…

]]> By: Shirley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051824 Shirley Sat, 01 Sep 2007 03:06:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051824 WARNER NEEDED NO "SOFT SPOT" TO BE SQUEEZED BY SOME EVIL CONSPIRATORS. The man is a war hero and KNOWS WHAT WAR IS and he also knows that his American boys are dying for a lie and the man is displaying FINALLY some true integrity by leaving political life on a HIGH and NOBLE NOTE. WARNER NEEDED NO “SOFT SPOT” TO BE SQUEEZED BY SOME EVIL CONSPIRATORS. The man is a war hero and KNOWS WHAT WAR IS and he also knows that his American boys are dying for a lie and the man is displaying FINALLY some true integrity by leaving political life on a HIGH and NOBLE NOTE.

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051405 theswan Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:15:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051405 He used to be respected many years ago. Getting old must be tough. He used to be respected many years ago.

Getting old must be tough.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051343 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:47:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051343 But he should have stood stronger on the torture issue. But he should have stood stronger on the torture issue.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051287 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:28:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051287 Oh ok. Well understand no one else was talking so I assumed you were directing that towards me and my comments. As for what I think about Warner, he's been my Senator for years. I don't agree with everything he's done but he's a decent man at heart, something painfully visably lacking in the Bush administration. His conscience is getting to him over the thousands of troops coming home with no arms, legs or in a body bag, and he's decided his conscience is greater than some misguided party loyalty. His conscience is getting to him, and having a conscience is a good thing. Oh ok. Well understand no one else was talking so I assumed you were directing that towards me and my comments.

As for what I think about Warner, he’s been my Senator for years. I don’t agree with everything he’s done but he’s a decent man at heart, something painfully visably lacking in the Bush administration.

His conscience is getting to him over the thousands of troops coming home with no arms, legs or in a body bag, and he’s decided his conscience is greater than some misguided party loyalty.

His conscience is getting to him, and having a conscience is a good thing.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051266 Badger Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:22:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051266 Please point to the place where I questioned his integrity. Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 5:18 pm I didn't...but other posters did. It's just my opinion from watching him on TV. If you share it....great! Please point to the place where I questioned his integrity.

Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 5:18 pm

I didn’t…but other posters did. It’s just my opinion from watching him on TV. If you share it….great!

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051265 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:21:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051265 I made no assumptions good or bad about Warners character. I just said there is something to the TIMING of all this. And if ANY negative character judgements are assumed or implied in my posts, then it would be towards the Bush administration. Saying someones being pressured implies the pressure'er is the bad guy, not the pressure'ee. I made no assumptions good or bad about Warners character. I just said there is something to the TIMING of all this.

And if ANY negative character judgements are assumed or implied in my posts, then it would be towards the Bush administration. Saying someones being pressured implies the pressure’er is the bad guy, not the pressure’ee.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051256 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:18:32 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051256 <em>I am prepared to criticize his judgement but not his integrity. </em> Comment by Badger — August 31, 2007 @ 5:13 pm You say that like I questioned his integrity somewhere. Please point to the place where I questioned his integrity. I am prepared to criticize his judgement but not his integrity.

Comment by Badger — August 31, 2007 @ 5:13 pm

You say that like I questioned his integrity somewhere.

Please point to the place where I questioned his integrity.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051249 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:16:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051249 <em>#45 Take the tin foil off. Warner hasn’t raised any money since last year towards his re-election fund. </em> Comment by lestatdelc — August 31, 2007 @ 3:11 pm Thanks for the wiki info. And if I'm gonna take off my tin foil hat, then you need to take off your horse blinders, because you can't see the forest for the trees. Warners resignation is tied to his coming out against the war, and all I want to know is how. You can sit back and jerk off to your self important smuggery for all I care, but I see a connection, and I'd like to know more. #45 Take the tin foil off. Warner hasn’t raised any money since last year towards his re-election fund.

Comment by lestatdelc — August 31, 2007 @ 3:11 pm

Thanks for the wiki info.

And if I’m gonna take off my tin foil hat, then you need to take off your horse blinders, because you can’t see the forest for the trees.

Warners resignation is tied to his coming out against the war, and all I want to know is how. You can sit back and jerk off to your self important smuggery for all I care, but I see a connection, and I’d like to know more.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051231 Badger Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:13:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051231 Why else would he feel the need to resign from congress before stepping out against Bush? Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 4:28 pm Sorry...that "need to resign" part threw me. I agree with you that his comments last week are related to his announcement this week.... I am prepared to criticize his judgement but not his integrity. Why else would he feel the need to resign from congress before stepping out against Bush?

Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 4:28 pm

Sorry…that “need to resign” part threw me.
I agree with you that his comments last week are related to his announcement this week…. I am prepared to criticize his judgement but not his integrity.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051210 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:06:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051210 And THATS why I said <em>and the VERY NEXT WEEK, he annouces his permanent retirement from Congress. Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 2:55 pm </em> And THATS why I said

and the VERY NEXT WEEK, he annouces his permanent retirement from Congress.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 2:55 pm

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051196 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:03:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051196 <em>Sen Warner is NOT Resigning….he just announced he won’t seek reelection for the Senate. </em> Comment by Badger — August 31, 2007 @ 4:55 pm :| uhhh, we know this. And thats the same as resigning when you've held the seat since 1979. Thanks for the wiki info but I know all about Senator Warner, since he's MY Senator. Sen Warner is NOT Resigning….he just announced he won’t seek reelection for the Senate.

Comment by Badger — August 31, 2007 @ 4:55 pm

:|

uhhh, we know this.

And thats the same as resigning when you’ve held the seat since 1979. Thanks for the wiki info but I know all about Senator Warner, since he’s MY Senator.

]]> By: Badger http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051172 Badger Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:55:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051172 Sen Warner is NOT Resigning....he just announced he won't seek reelection for the Senate. He has been a Senator for almost 30 years, and is 80 years old. His party, (and the committee chairmanship that goes with it),is not likely to regain anything in 2008. Warner is a loyal republican...but he has always spoken out for the welfare of our military. That welfare has been systematically wrecked by the Bush administration. Tragic deaths in a pointless war effort trumps party loyalty for this senator. Sen Warner is NOT Resigning….he just announced he won’t seek reelection for the Senate. He has been a Senator for almost 30 years, and is 80 years old. His party, (and the committee chairmanship that goes with it),is not likely to regain anything in 2008.
Warner is a loyal republican…but he has always spoken out for the welfare of our military. That welfare has been systematically wrecked by the Bush administration. Tragic deaths in a pointless war effort trumps party loyalty for this senator.

]]> By: KYJurisDoctor http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051157 KYJurisDoctor Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:48:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051157 Sad to see him go. The one that needs to go, Larry Craig, hasn't left yet! http://OsiSpeaks.com or http://OsiSpeaks.org Sad to see him go. The one that needs to go, Larry Craig, hasn’t left yet!

http://OsiSpeaks.com or http://OsiSpeaks.org

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051117 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:36:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051117 Senators have seemed afraid of Bush since right after 911. Something was said to them, or implied to them, or they know about something, that made most of them afraid to stand up to the Bush administration. Warner's conscience finally got the better of him, and he could no longer send our young men and women into the meatgrinder for the sole reason of maintaining the guilded image of a failing president. But something scared him enough to say, if I do this, then I need to leave, or after he said it, scared him enough to decide to leave rather than face it. Senators have seemed afraid of Bush since right after 911. Something was said to them, or implied to them, or they know about something, that made most of them afraid to stand up to the Bush administration. Warner’s conscience finally got the better of him, and he could no longer send our young men and women into the meatgrinder for the sole reason of maintaining the guilded image of a failing president.

But something scared him enough to say, if I do this, then I need to leave, or after he said it, scared him enough to decide to leave rather than face it.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051093 BARTLEBEE Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:28:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051093 <em>I saw it completely differently; I figured he knew he was leaving, so he was finally free to say what he said last week.</em> Comment by gummitch — August 31, 2007 @ 4:20 pm Thats another very distinct possiblity. I am not claiming that I know why he left, I just know its tied to his coming out against Bush last week. Its certainly possible that the decision to leave was made, and THEN his opposition to the war, but that still supports my statement that he's afraid of them for some reason. Why else would he feel the need to resign from congress before stepping out against Bush? I saw it completely differently; I figured he knew he was leaving, so he was finally free to say what he said last week.

Comment by gummitch — August 31, 2007 @ 4:20 pm

Thats another very distinct possiblity. I am not claiming that I know why he left, I just know its tied to his coming out against Bush last week. Its certainly possible that the decision to leave was made, and THEN his opposition to the war, but that still supports my statement that he’s afraid of them for some reason.

Why else would he feel the need to resign from congress before stepping out against Bush?

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4051061 gummitch Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:20:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4051061 <em>It doesn’t take a genius to figure out someone found a soft spot, and squeezed. Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 2:43 pm</em> I saw it completely differently; I figured he knew he was leaving, so he was finally free to say what he said last week. If he was planning on running for re-election, he'd have to continue to either toe the party line, or tipetoe around it and distance himself a little from Bush. Now he can be candid, because he has nothing to lose. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out someone found a soft spot, and squeezed.

Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 2:43 pm

I saw it completely differently; I figured he knew he was leaving, so he was finally free to say what he said last week. If he was planning on running for re-election, he’d have to continue to either toe the party line, or tipetoe around it and distance himself a little from Bush. Now he can be candid, because he has nothing to lose.

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4050979 upside00 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:02:56 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4050979 <em>No, theres something funny about this. Last week Warner shook the press by announcing his end of support for the continuation of the war in Iraq, and a week later he resigns permanently from congress? Someone squeezed him and squeezed him hard. Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 2:34 pm </em> I also think he planned this before but finally he grew a conscious about what he has been doing to the military and decided to go out with both guns blazing. He may the best thing to happen to the Dems over the next year and a half! No, theres something funny about this.

Last week Warner shook the press by announcing his end of support for the continuation of the war in Iraq, and a week later he resigns permanently from congress?

Someone squeezed him and squeezed him hard.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — August 31, 2007 @ 2:34 pm

I also think he planned this before but finally he grew a conscious about what he has been doing to the military and decided to go out with both guns blazing.

He may the best thing to happen to the Dems over the next year and a half!

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/comment-page-2/#comment-4050870 Jay Randal Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:35:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/sen-warner-retires/#comment-4050870 He did not want to be exposed giving BJs in restrooms like Craig > lol. He did not want to be exposed giving BJs in restrooms like Craig > lol.

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