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		<title>By: rockyroad</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/white-house-e-mail-mystery-deepens/comment-page-2/#comment-4053726</link>
		<dc:creator>rockyroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Identity of the e-hail hosting site according to an excerpt from:

&quot;Network Hosting Attorney Scandal E-Mails Also Hosted Ohio&#039;s 2004 Election Results&quot;

By Steven Rosenfeld and Bob Fitrakis, Free Press
Posted on April 23, 2007, Printed on April 23, 2007

The company:  SMARTech Corp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Identity of the e-hail hosting site according to an excerpt from:</p>
<p>&#8220;Network Hosting Attorney Scandal E-Mails Also Hosted Ohio&#8217;s 2004 Election Results&#8221;</p>
<p>By Steven Rosenfeld and Bob Fitrakis, Free Press<br />
Posted on April 23, 2007, Printed on April 23, 2007</p>
<p>The company:  SMARTech Corp<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4053726', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rockyroad</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/white-house-e-mail-mystery-deepens/comment-page-2/#comment-4053699</link>
		<dc:creator>rockyroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#61  Good post . . . a couple of issues:

First, 

&quot;Yesterday morning, the RNC provided Waxman a list of 37 (out of 50) of the people with RNC emails. 

[]

Okayâ€“they didnâ€™t mention Karl by name. But if youâ€™re going to focus on just â€œseveralâ€ peopleâ€™s data, youâ€™d think Karl would be at the top of that several, wouldnâ€™t you?&quot;

With this bunch, you&#039;d be nieve to assume that &quot;Karl would be at the top of that several . . .&quot;  Where have you been for the past six years.  Of course you could safely assume that Karl ain&#039;t one of the chosen 37.

Second, with regard to Hatch Act violations, this comment:

&quot;Honestly, I suspect this subpoena is designed to bunge up the RNC works, because thereâ€™s no way theyâ€™ll completely comply with the subpoena (theyâ€™re not going to admit to all the ways Rove has used the RNC servers to talk about using government resources to establish a one-party state).&quot;

It&#039;s been my experience that when the DoJ, FCC, FTC or other agency investigate, the subjects of those investigations do not have the luxury of non- or partial compliance.  They are legally obligated to completely comply.  It&#039;s not negotiable.  The companies, their officers and attorneys would get hammered if they said, &quot;Too hard, too complicated, too expensive, can&#039;t do it.&quot;  If they added, &quot;Suck an egg&quot;, one can only imagine the consequences.  Is the RNC an extra-special, dainty, dainty entity that operates in that elite stratosphere above the rest of America and so subject only to Paris Hilton style law enforcement. If so, suck an egg, we can slam that final nail into the coffin of democracy, sealing Bush&#039;s legacy from the bright light of truth for eternity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#61  Good post . . . a couple of issues:</p>
<p>First, </p>
<p>&#8220;Yesterday morning, the RNC provided Waxman a list of 37 (out of 50) of the people with RNC emails. </p>
<p>[]</p>
<p>Okayâ€“they didnâ€™t mention Karl by name. But if youâ€™re going to focus on just â€œseveralâ€ peopleâ€™s data, youâ€™d think Karl would be at the top of that several, wouldnâ€™t you?&#8221;</p>
<p>With this bunch, you&#8217;d be nieve to assume that &#8220;Karl would be at the top of that several . . .&#8221;  Where have you been for the past six years.  Of course you could safely assume that Karl ain&#8217;t one of the chosen 37.</p>
<p>Second, with regard to Hatch Act violations, this comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;Honestly, I suspect this subpoena is designed to bunge up the RNC works, because thereâ€™s no way theyâ€™ll completely comply with the subpoena (theyâ€™re not going to admit to all the ways Rove has used the RNC servers to talk about using government resources to establish a one-party state).&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been my experience that when the DoJ, FCC, FTC or other agency investigate, the subjects of those investigations do not have the luxury of non- or partial compliance.  They are legally obligated to completely comply.  It&#8217;s not negotiable.  The companies, their officers and attorneys would get hammered if they said, &#8220;Too hard, too complicated, too expensive, can&#8217;t do it.&#8221;  If they added, &#8220;Suck an egg&#8221;, one can only imagine the consequences.  Is the RNC an extra-special, dainty, dainty entity that operates in that elite stratosphere above the rest of America and so subject only to Paris Hilton style law enforcement. If so, suck an egg, we can slam that final nail into the coffin of democracy, sealing Bush&#8217;s legacy from the bright light of truth for eternity.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4053699', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Look</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/white-house-e-mail-mystery-deepens/comment-page-2/#comment-4053123</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Look</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Judiciary, the third branch of government, must exercise the limits of its constraints and actively participate in these times of the Executive branch&#039;s callous disregard of the law and the impotent Democratic majority against the maneuvers of a Republican complicit legislative branch. The letter of the law should function beyond the political maneuvers of any party. Can one claim what was once expressed with American pride after Watergate, that the system worked; that no one is beyond the law? The solutions for this impasse are obvious; the answer is not with the legislative branch. It is time for legal consequences to advance. Sufficient energy and time has been patiently afforded. It is time for Democratic and Republican  &quot;statesman&quot; to stand up for a true American value entrusted to the legislative branch; that of oversight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Judiciary, the third branch of government, must exercise the limits of its constraints and actively participate in these times of the Executive branch&#8217;s callous disregard of the law and the impotent Democratic majority against the maneuvers of a Republican complicit legislative branch. The letter of the law should function beyond the political maneuvers of any party. Can one claim what was once expressed with American pride after Watergate, that the system worked; that no one is beyond the law? The solutions for this impasse are obvious; the answer is not with the legislative branch. It is time for legal consequences to advance. Sufficient energy and time has been patiently afforded. It is time for Democratic and Republican  &#8220;statesman&#8221; to stand up for a true American value entrusted to the legislative branch; that of oversight.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4053123', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Messiah Overload</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/white-house-e-mail-mystery-deepens/comment-page-2/#comment-4052168</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Messiah Overload</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trolls? any defense of this one? wait... ACT was fined 750 G..thats it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trolls? any defense of this one? wait&#8230; ACT was fined 750 G..thats it!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4052168', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bush's Anus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bush's Anus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;How come most of the stuff on TP is almost NEVER covered or if it is, distorted and downplayed, in the New York Times?

Comment by Shirley â€” August 31, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
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Iâ€™ll take this one.

Shirley, my Judaiophobic amiga, TP is propaganda site. No respectable publication would blatantly distort facts like TP.

Comment by AVGVSTVS&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;So, show us an EXAMPLE of &quot;propaganda&quot; on Think Progress.

On the other hand, Fox &quot;news&quot;, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O&#039;Reilly, Glen Beck, etc. are BLATANT PROPAGANDA.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How come most of the stuff on TP is almost NEVER covered or if it is, distorted and downplayed, in the New York Times?</p>
<p>Comment by Shirley â€” August 31, 2007 @ 10:57 pm<br />
â€”â€”â€”-</p>
<p>Iâ€™ll take this one.</p>
<p>Shirley, my Judaiophobic amiga, TP is propaganda site. No respectable publication would blatantly distort facts like TP.</p>
<p>Comment by AVGVSTVS</em></p>
<p><strong>So, show us an EXAMPLE of &#8220;propaganda&#8221; on Think Progress.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Fox &#8220;news&#8221;, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Glen Beck, etc. are BLATANT PROPAGANDA.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4052114', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AVGVSTVS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AVGVSTVS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come most of the stuff on TP is almost NEVER covered or if it is, distorted and downplayed, in the New York Times?

Comment by Shirley â€” August 31, 2007 @ 10:57 pm
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I&#039;ll take this one.

Shirley, my Judaiophobic amiga, TP is propaganda site. No respectable publication would blatantly distort facts like TP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come most of the stuff on TP is almost NEVER covered or if it is, distorted and downplayed, in the New York Times?</p>
<p>Comment by Shirley â€” August 31, 2007 @ 10:57 pm<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take this one.</p>
<p>Shirley, my Judaiophobic amiga, TP is propaganda site. No respectable publication would blatantly distort facts like TP.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4052112', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Headybrew.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Headybrew.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This little story is in jeopardy of slipping under the radar and being forgotten. But this is really important. If this information is lost, then &lt;strong&gt;history will never know&lt;/strong&gt; what insight we could have had into this &lt;strong&gt;unusually evil&lt;/strong&gt; president and his administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This little story is in jeopardy of slipping under the radar and being forgotten. But this is really important. If this information is lost, then <strong>history will never know</strong> what insight we could have had into this <strong>unusually evil</strong> president and his administration.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051945', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this handwringing over these lost emails.  I work for the Federal Government; and, I am willing to bed if a search warrant were served and all White House offices were searched (RNC and homes, too), you will find paper copies of many--if not most of those missing emails.  Paperless offices do not exist in the Fed. Govt.  Every one I know prints a copy of all important emails in case the system crashes.  No one really wants to find these emails or they would be much more resourceful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this handwringing over these lost emails.  I work for the Federal Government; and, I am willing to bed if a search warrant were served and all White House offices were searched (RNC and homes, too), you will find paper copies of many&#8211;if not most of those missing emails.  Paperless offices do not exist in the Fed. Govt.  Every one I know prints a copy of all important emails in case the system crashes.  No one really wants to find these emails or they would be much more resourceful.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051936', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/white-house-e-mail-mystery-deepens/comment-page-2/#comment-4051854</link>
		<dc:creator>curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 03:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So our duly elected members of Congress can&#039;t have access to White House e-mails due to &quot;sensitive security concerns&quot;, but this same information can be turned over to an unidentified private corporation?  

That is as reprehensible as the matter of turning over the storage and counting of our votes to private corporations (who are oftentimes also generous campaign contributors), with no opportunity to review their actions, since it involves &quot;proprietary information.&quot;  

Isn&#039;t privatization wonderful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So our duly elected members of Congress can&#8217;t have access to White House e-mails due to &#8220;sensitive security concerns&#8221;, but this same information can be turned over to an unidentified private corporation?  </p>
<p>That is as reprehensible as the matter of turning over the storage and counting of our votes to private corporations (who are oftentimes also generous campaign contributors), with no opportunity to review their actions, since it involves &#8220;proprietary information.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t privatization wonderful?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051854', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shirley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/31/white-house-e-mail-mystery-deepens/comment-page-2/#comment-4051809</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 02:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come most of the stuff on TP is almost NEVER covered or if it is, distorted and downplayed, in the New York Times?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come most of the stuff on TP is almost NEVER covered or if it is, distorted and downplayed, in the New York Times?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051809', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Figuring out the identity of this company should be pretty easy.

This was a private company, so they had to be paid.   The White House budget records should narrow down the possibilities to a very short list of companies. 

Congress would then need only subpoena all companies who:

&lt;strong&gt;A.&lt;/strong&gt; Have been paid for services under the White House budget.
And
&lt;strong&gt;B.&lt;/strong&gt; Have the technical competency to provide secure e-mail retentions services.

If the press reports of some months ago were accurate, not many companies would have the technical competency to provide those services to the White House .  Those press reports suggested that the White House e-mail retention system was completely separated from the actual e-mail servers.   The White House retention system reportedly monitored all e-mail traffic and retained both incoming and outgoing messages.  It was unclear if the system also retained webmail (Hotmail Gmail), but such systems do exist.

I suspect the list of companies who offer this service &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; have White House level security clearances is VERY short. . Congress could easily serve each of the companies who meet the above criteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Figuring out the identity of this company should be pretty easy.</p>
<p>This was a private company, so they had to be paid.   The White House budget records should narrow down the possibilities to a very short list of companies. </p>
<p>Congress would then need only subpoena all companies who:</p>
<p><strong>A.</strong> Have been paid for services under the White House budget.<br />
And<br />
<strong>B.</strong> Have the technical competency to provide secure e-mail retentions services.</p>
<p>If the press reports of some months ago were accurate, not many companies would have the technical competency to provide those services to the White House .  Those press reports suggested that the White House e-mail retention system was completely separated from the actual e-mail servers.   The White House retention system reportedly monitored all e-mail traffic and retained both incoming and outgoing messages.  It was unclear if the system also retained webmail (Hotmail Gmail), but such systems do exist.</p>
<p>I suspect the list of companies who offer this service <strong>and</strong> have White House level security clearances is VERY short. . Congress could easily serve each of the companies who meet the above criteria.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051679', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JIM D</title>
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		<dc:creator>JIM D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deception, lies, secrets, favoritism and incompetence........the hallmark of the worst presidency in history. Please, someone put them all in jail!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deception, lies, secrets, favoritism and incompetence&#8230;&#8230;..the hallmark of the worst presidency in history. Please, someone put them all in jail!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051574', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Styve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Styve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found it!

http://www.firedoglake.com/index.php?s=stroz+friedberg



&lt;strong&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Ahhh Subpoena Power. Or, Why Is Henry (Mostly) Smiling
By emptywheel on Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 04:30 pm
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;



[...]
The three areas of progress are:

RNC Emails

Yesterday morning, the RNC provided Waxman a list of 37 (out of 50) of the people with RNC emails. It also admitted that they had 25 million KB of email data for the 37 individuals in question (that&#039;s a lot of emails). And finally, they revealed that they had engaged a computer forensics firm to scan Karl Rove&#039;s hard drive.

    These efforts include retaining a leading, nationally-known computer forensics firm, Stroz Friedberg, LLC, to provide advice and technical support. Over the last several days, Stroz Friedberg imaged several RNC-owned computers and blackberries that are currently being used by White House employees.

Okayâ€“they didn&#039;t mention Karl by name. But if you&#039;re going to focus on just &quot;several&quot; people&#039;s data, you&#039;d think Karl would be at the top of that several, wouldn&#039;t you?

Of course, all of this was an attempt to avoid having to turn over the shady emails that Waxman doesn&#039;t yet know aboutâ€“but Waxman didn&#039;t buy it. So they still subpoenaed the RNC for basic information on the RNC email use.

    As a result, I am asking the Committee to approve this subpoena. It asks the RNC to provide answers to basic questions about the use of RNC e-mail accounts by White House officials, such as a list of which officials uses these accounts and how many e-mails they sent and received. The deadline is two weeks.

    It also asks the head of the RNC, Mike Duncan, to appear before the Committee in two
    weeks to testify about these matters, Depending on the kind of response the Committee receives
    from the RNC in the interim, I will consult with the members about whether the Committee will
    need to proceed with this hearing.

I like that last bitâ€“subpoenaing Mike Duncan to appear before the committee. I imagine that&#039;ll persuade Mr. Duncan to be a little more forthcoming with information about those emails. 

Hatch Act Violations

Meanwhile, in what I assume was a similar attempt to forestall a subpoena (and probably a response to Jeffrey Smith&#039;s reporting), the White House admitted it had held &quot;informational briefings about the political landscape&quot; at 20 government agencies. Big surpriseâ€“those agencies include several that have been accused of unfairly helping Republicans or hurting Democrats in their duties, such as DHS/FEMA&#039;s preferential treatment of Mississippi at the expense of Democratically governed Lousiana after Katrina. You think maybe there&#039;s a connection between Rove, asking agency heads to consider how they can help get Republicans elected, and agency policies that help get Republicans elected? Nahhh.

Once again, though, Waxman did not get distracted by shiny objects; after all, he had asked more generally about emails referring to the use of government resources to get Republicans elected. So the RNC got a second subpoena, this time looking for more information on potential Hatch Act violations.

    As a result, I am asking the Committee to approve this subpoena. The subpoena asks the
    RNC to provide the e-mails described above. It also asks for several previously requested
    documents, including policies and procedures regarding the use of the RNC e-mail accounts, and
    communications from federal entities regarding the preservation, storage, or destruction of emails.

Honestly, I suspect this subpoena is designed to bunge up the RNC works, because there&#039;s no way they&#039;ll completely comply with the subpoena (they&#039;re not going to admit to all the ways Rove has used the RNC servers to talk about using government resources to establish a one-party state). But this subpoena will be something we can refer back to when we get new revelations of how BushCo used the RNC server to serve Rove&#039;s ends.

MZM&#039;s Contracts 

The most interestingâ€“and least reportedâ€“development relates to Waxman&#039;s attempt to get the White House to turn over information on MZM&#039;s contract with the White House. MZM, you&#039;ll recall, was one of Mitchell Wade&#039;s companies for which he was bribing Duke Cunningham in exchange for government contracts. It&#039;s very first federal contract provided services of some kind to OVPâ€“though those services have been variously referrred to as a furniture contract, service to scan mail for anthrax contamination, or (most recently), a service to scan email for threats (huh. we&#039;re talking about email again). The contract is interesting for two reasons (in addition to the confusion about the services rendered). First, it pretty transparently paid for Duke Cunningham&#039;s boat, the Dukestir. And second, MZM went on to provide key services tied to spying on Americans. 

There were two developments on this front yesterday. First, in response to Waxman&#039;s subpoena threat, the White House turned over to Waxman two hundred pages of documentation on the original MZM contract. And perhaps more interesting, the Department of Defense announced it was discontinuing a program associated with MZM&#039;s spying contract (hat tip Laura Rozen).

    Less than two weeks after being sworn in as undersecretary of defense for intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr. is moving to end the controversial Talon electronic data program, which collected and circulated unverified reports about people and organizations that allegedly threaten Defense Department facilities.

    [snip]

    Talon â€” which stands for Threat and Local Observation Notices â€” is operated under the direction of the Counterintelligence Field Activity, which was established in September 2002 by then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul D. Wolfowitz. CIFA was originally charged with coordinating policy and overseeing the domestic counterintelligence activities of Pentagon agencies and the armed forces.

    The agency&#039;s size and budget are classified, but congressional sources have said that CIFA had spent more than $1 billion through last October. One counterintelligence official at that time estimated that CIFA had 400 full-time employees and 800 to 900 contractors working for it.

    Last August, CIFA Director David A. Burtt II and his top deputy, Joseph Hefferon, resigned in the wake of a scandal involving CIFA contracts that went to MZM Inc., a company run by Mitchell J. Wade. Wade pleaded guilty in February 2006 to conspiring to bribe then-Rep. Randy &quot;Duke&quot; Cunningham (R-Calif). [my emphasis]

You see, in my more speculative moments, I have wondered whether MZM&#039;s domestic spying contracts were the most urgent reason for Carol Lam&#039;s firing. How curious then, that just as the White House turns over documentation on the original MZM contracting, Defense announces it will end the more egregious domestic spying program?

It&#039;s just one of those coinkydinks that subpoena power seems to produce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found it!</p>
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<blockquote>Ahhh Subpoena Power. Or, Why Is Henry (Mostly) Smiling<br />
By emptywheel on Thu Apr 26, 2007 at 04:30 pm
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<p>[...]<br />
The three areas of progress are:</p>
<p>RNC Emails</p>
<p>Yesterday morning, the RNC provided Waxman a list of 37 (out of 50) of the people with RNC emails. It also admitted that they had 25 million KB of email data for the 37 individuals in question (that&#8217;s a lot of emails). And finally, they revealed that they had engaged a computer forensics firm to scan Karl Rove&#8217;s hard drive.</p>
<p>    These efforts include retaining a leading, nationally-known computer forensics firm, Stroz Friedberg, LLC, to provide advice and technical support. Over the last several days, Stroz Friedberg imaged several RNC-owned computers and blackberries that are currently being used by White House employees.</p>
<p>Okayâ€“they didn&#8217;t mention Karl by name. But if you&#8217;re going to focus on just &#8220;several&#8221; people&#8217;s data, you&#8217;d think Karl would be at the top of that several, wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Of course, all of this was an attempt to avoid having to turn over the shady emails that Waxman doesn&#8217;t yet know aboutâ€“but Waxman didn&#8217;t buy it. So they still subpoenaed the RNC for basic information on the RNC email use.</p>
<p>    As a result, I am asking the Committee to approve this subpoena. It asks the RNC to provide answers to basic questions about the use of RNC e-mail accounts by White House officials, such as a list of which officials uses these accounts and how many e-mails they sent and received. The deadline is two weeks.</p>
<p>    It also asks the head of the RNC, Mike Duncan, to appear before the Committee in two<br />
    weeks to testify about these matters, Depending on the kind of response the Committee receives<br />
    from the RNC in the interim, I will consult with the members about whether the Committee will<br />
    need to proceed with this hearing.</p>
<p>I like that last bitâ€“subpoenaing Mike Duncan to appear before the committee. I imagine that&#8217;ll persuade Mr. Duncan to be a little more forthcoming with information about those emails. </p>
<p>Hatch Act Violations</p>
<p>Meanwhile, in what I assume was a similar attempt to forestall a subpoena (and probably a response to Jeffrey Smith&#8217;s reporting), the White House admitted it had held &#8220;informational briefings about the political landscape&#8221; at 20 government agencies. Big surpriseâ€“those agencies include several that have been accused of unfairly helping Republicans or hurting Democrats in their duties, such as DHS/FEMA&#8217;s preferential treatment of Mississippi at the expense of Democratically governed Lousiana after Katrina. You think maybe there&#8217;s a connection between Rove, asking agency heads to consider how they can help get Republicans elected, and agency policies that help get Republicans elected? Nahhh.</p>
<p>Once again, though, Waxman did not get distracted by shiny objects; after all, he had asked more generally about emails referring to the use of government resources to get Republicans elected. So the RNC got a second subpoena, this time looking for more information on potential Hatch Act violations.</p>
<p>    As a result, I am asking the Committee to approve this subpoena. The subpoena asks the<br />
    RNC to provide the e-mails described above. It also asks for several previously requested<br />
    documents, including policies and procedures regarding the use of the RNC e-mail accounts, and<br />
    communications from federal entities regarding the preservation, storage, or destruction of emails.</p>
<p>Honestly, I suspect this subpoena is designed to bunge up the RNC works, because there&#8217;s no way they&#8217;ll completely comply with the subpoena (they&#8217;re not going to admit to all the ways Rove has used the RNC servers to talk about using government resources to establish a one-party state). But this subpoena will be something we can refer back to when we get new revelations of how BushCo used the RNC server to serve Rove&#8217;s ends.</p>
<p>MZM&#8217;s Contracts </p>
<p>The most interestingâ€“and least reportedâ€“development relates to Waxman&#8217;s attempt to get the White House to turn over information on MZM&#8217;s contract with the White House. MZM, you&#8217;ll recall, was one of Mitchell Wade&#8217;s companies for which he was bribing Duke Cunningham in exchange for government contracts. It&#8217;s very first federal contract provided services of some kind to OVPâ€“though those services have been variously referrred to as a furniture contract, service to scan mail for anthrax contamination, or (most recently), a service to scan email for threats (huh. we&#8217;re talking about email again). The contract is interesting for two reasons (in addition to the confusion about the services rendered). First, it pretty transparently paid for Duke Cunningham&#8217;s boat, the Dukestir. And second, MZM went on to provide key services tied to spying on Americans. </p>
<p>There were two developments on this front yesterday. First, in response to Waxman&#8217;s subpoena threat, the White House turned over to Waxman two hundred pages of documentation on the original MZM contract. And perhaps more interesting, the Department of Defense announced it was discontinuing a program associated with MZM&#8217;s spying contract (hat tip Laura Rozen).</p>
<p>    Less than two weeks after being sworn in as undersecretary of defense for intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr. is moving to end the controversial Talon electronic data program, which collected and circulated unverified reports about people and organizations that allegedly threaten Defense Department facilities.</p>
<p>    [snip]</p>
<p>    Talon â€” which stands for Threat and Local Observation Notices â€” is operated under the direction of the Counterintelligence Field Activity, which was established in September 2002 by then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul D. Wolfowitz. CIFA was originally charged with coordinating policy and overseeing the domestic counterintelligence activities of Pentagon agencies and the armed forces.</p>
<p>    The agency&#8217;s size and budget are classified, but congressional sources have said that CIFA had spent more than $1 billion through last October. One counterintelligence official at that time estimated that CIFA had 400 full-time employees and 800 to 900 contractors working for it.</p>
<p>    Last August, CIFA Director David A. Burtt II and his top deputy, Joseph Hefferon, resigned in the wake of a scandal involving CIFA contracts that went to MZM Inc., a company run by Mitchell J. Wade. Wade pleaded guilty in February 2006 to conspiring to bribe then-Rep. Randy &#8220;Duke&#8221; Cunningham (R-Calif). [my emphasis]</p>
<p>You see, in my more speculative moments, I have wondered whether MZM&#8217;s domestic spying contracts were the most urgent reason for Carol Lam&#8217;s firing. How curious then, that just as the White House turns over documentation on the original MZM contracting, Defense announces it will end the more egregious domestic spying program?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just one of those coinkydinks that subpoena power seems to produce.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051417', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Styve</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The company that the WH hired around the time that it was leaked that there were 5 million email on the RNC servers, presumably to facilitate the cover-up, was Stroz Friedberg (http://www.strozllc.com/).  I recall a lot of talk about a Tennessee company that housed the servers...hell, back in March?!

Looking for the FDL threads where this was discussed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company that the WH hired around the time that it was leaked that there were 5 million email on the RNC servers, presumably to facilitate the cover-up, was Stroz Friedberg (<a href="http://www.strozllc.com/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.strozllc.com/)</a>.  I recall a lot of talk about a Tennessee company that housed the servers&#8230;hell, back in March?!</p>
<p>Looking for the FDL threads where this was discussed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051410', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Day &gt; well you would see dates for new info stored on the hard-drives, but nothing earlier so you could determine date of replacement. Democrats in Congress are probably not smart enough to figure this out or they really do not care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Day &gt; well you would see dates for new info stored on the hard-drives, but nothing earlier so you could determine date of replacement. Democrats in Congress are probably not smart enough to figure this out or they really do not care.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051363', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: leftcoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by JG â€” August 31, 2007 @ 5:45 pm
I&#039;m disappointed with Dems. They have the opportunity to demonstrate to America and the world that the rule of law exists within our government. They&#039;re blowing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by JG â€” August 31, 2007 @ 5:45 pm<br />
I&#8217;m disappointed with Dems. They have the opportunity to demonstrate to America and the world that the rule of law exists within our government. They&#8217;re blowing it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051350', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Randal: If those hard-drives were replaced. Is there a born on date or something? i.e can one tell if they were tampered with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Randal: If those hard-drives were replaced. Is there a born on date or something? i.e can one tell if they were tampered with?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051346', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<dc:creator>JG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It never ceases to amaze me how utterly lame this Administration&#039;s excuses are for not complying with the laws, rules and statutes! And it is truly disappointing to see the Democrats not doing more to stop them from getting away with it. I swear, it is like watching someone standing by holding the drug addict&#039;s arm steady so he can hit the vein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never ceases to amaze me how utterly lame this Administration&#8217;s excuses are for not complying with the laws, rules and statutes! And it is truly disappointing to see the Democrats not doing more to stop them from getting away with it. I swear, it is like watching someone standing by holding the drug addict&#8217;s arm steady so he can hit the vein.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051337', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: leftcoast</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftcoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the returning Congress going to do about Gonzo&#039;s order to not answer Freedom of Information Requests to the WH Office of Administration. Heretofore, they were most accomadating.
One more brick for the Keep of King George&#039;s kingdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the returning Congress going to do about Gonzo&#8217;s order to not answer Freedom of Information Requests to the WH Office of Administration. Heretofore, they were most accomadating.<br />
One more brick for the Keep of King George&#8217;s kingdom.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4051333', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush had the White House PC hard-drives replaced &gt; only way to destroy internal emails and such.</description>
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