Craig resigns, effective Sept. 30.
By on Sep 1st, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Craig resigns, effective Sept. 30.
AP reports:
Idaho Sen. Larry Craig resigned Saturday over a men’s room sex sting, bowing to pressure from fellow Republicans worried about a scandal dimming their election prospects.
“I apologize for what I have caused,” Craig said.
Craig’s resignation completed a stunning downfall that began Monday with the disclosure that he had pleaded guilty to a reduced charge following his arrest during a sex sting in a Minneapolis airport men’s room.
UPDATE: CNN’s Dana Bash reports that Craig continues to insist that he is innocent of the charges and will be “fighting it like hell.”
Might as well, as the hypocrisy is unbelievable!
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 09/ senator-larry-craig-toe-taps-out-of.html#links
September 1st, 2007 at 12:53 pmWhat a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:54 pmCan I pick up some used toilet paper from the floor of YOUR stall?
September 1st, 2007 at 12:55 pmGood riddance to more bad rubbish.
I must admit I do feel sorry for his family. To have their entire lives implode in 6 days must be staggering.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:56 pmmaybe now we can get back to talking about Gonzales.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:56 pmWhat pathetic self-loathing hypocrisy that forced the Grand
September 1st, 2007 at 12:57 pmold Closet Party to sacrifice one of their own.
What a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.
If receiving a blowjob from a consenting woman is worthy of impeachment then soliciting blowjobs in a men’s washroom surely must be cause for stepping down. Witch hunts is what America is all about. Governing what goes on in people’s sex lives is the norm.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:59 pmIt’s been fun watching the repugs squirm as another of them is humiliated - even as there seems to be another scandal brewing in Florida, only this one involves deaths.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:02 pmBut really, let’s get down to real news; the stuff that affects all of us now and into the future.
The Bush crime family is still operational - and there is no moss growing under their feet - let’s keep our eye on them and their activity.
Grand Old Pervert party: Now that’s pathetic.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:02 pmAs long as I get my taxpayer’s pension and health insurance. I’m a happy camper.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:03 pmThe ‘08 senate election in Idaho will be quite entertaining to watch. It will be like the presidential election, in that the prospective republican candidates will be running away from their predecessors’ records. They also will have a hard time making the case that they’ll act differently than Craig, who used the same “family-values” rhetoric they’ll all be using.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:04 pmHey, hey, hey, another one bites the dust. Sing it! And another one bites, and another one bites, another one bites the dust, Hey, hey, hey, another one bites the dust.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:04 pmVitter should go, too.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:05 pmThe only thing Craig “regrets” is being cast from the closet he helped the GOP make for self-hating liers and hypocrites like him. And you thought the GOP had nothing to offer America in 2006 . . .
September 1st, 2007 at 1:05 pmWhat a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.
Comment by Angry Adam — September 1, 2007
Keep in mind it was the GOP that abandoned him.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:07 pmAs Dennis Miller said, Larry Craig should’ve said “I thought two taps of the right foot meant ‘pass the sports page.’”
September 1st, 2007 at 1:10 pmMany years ago (1983), I had occasion to use a restroom stall at a mountain campground on a weekday in spring with, apparently, not a soul in sight. Lo and behold a couple minutes later, a man sat down in the adjacent stall and began to strike up what I even regarded at the time to be a suspiciously law-enforcement-motivated conversation. I was deeply resentful, and departred the facility just as soon as was possible. Unless the senator is guilty, I would think he would have done the same.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:11 pmWhat a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.
Comment by Angry Adam — September 1, 2007
Call it what you want, but he PLEADED GUILTY to a crime invilving lewd behavior in a restroom. Had he maintained his innocence things would have been alot different. I am all for innocent until proven guilty. I defend OJ to this day over that, but guess what, he ADMITTED GUILT and was found GUILTY.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:11 pmLarry Craig announced today that his seat is now wide open for the taking.
As he told the police officer in that tape: “I’m a wide kind of guy”.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pmYou reap what you sow.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:14 pmHaving spent several years in the Pacific Northwest, including Idaho, I can attest to the fact that the ducks in Idaho share the same ducknesses as ducks in other parts of the country; ergo: they quack. Girlie-boy Craig has not denied his actions but continues to claim they were “misinterpreted” but does not offer an alternate interpretation. Maybe he should quit quacking and just go back to his stall.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:16 pmMaybe if the g.o.p. stayed out of the sex lives of Americans and went back to a belief in “the right to left alone”, progressives wouldn’t be jumping all over them.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:16 pmWell, I think the legal case against him was pretty weak, but glad to see another Republican hypocrite go. Personally, I find airport restrooms to be disgusting enough without someone trying hit on you in a toilet stall. Talk about pathetic.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:21 pmFarewell, Men’s Room Casanova.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:22 pmSen Craig fails to understand the legal system.
He pled guilty. He’s not innocent. It’s too late to fight like hell, unless he can get his guilty plea overturned. It’s a misdemeanor, for f*ck’s sake!
He’s already lost everything because of the choices he’s made. Time to fade to black, Senator.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:24 pmCraig continues to insist that he is innocent of the charges and will be “fighting it like hell.â€
Er, uh,
Sen.Mr. Craig, you already pled guilty.What charges are you going to fight, and where?
September 1st, 2007 at 1:25 pm“What a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.
Comment by Angry Adam”
So Angry Adam, are you angry with your Rethug party? Because it was the Rethugs that asked for his resignation not the Democrats.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:26 pmPleads guilty then claims innocence. Resigns then says he’ll fight like hell. I think that option has lapsed,
September 1st, 2007 at 1:28 pmSen. Craig (R-eallynotgay).
Picking up random pieces of toilet paper from a public bathroom floor. That still slays me. Lamest.excuse.ever.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:29 pmAnother RepubliKKKan bites the dust, but there has to be a motive in why Larry Craig wants to stay till the end of the month. He should just resign , pack his stuff (that’s things from his office ;)) and leave. There has to be a motive for him wanting to stay till Sept 30.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:29 pmSo disgusted and tired about hearing of these Gross Old Perverts…. They sure have come out of the woodwork during this administration. How will the history books report this to our children?
September 1st, 2007 at 1:30 pmI think Larry meant to say “I’m going to fight IN hell”.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:31 pm“Picking up random pieces of toilet paper from a public bathroom floor. That still slays me. Lamest.excuse.ever.”
Especially considering the fact that he didn’t flush before leaving the stall.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:31 pmSo disgusted and tired about hearing of these Gross Old Perverts…. They sure have come out of the woodwork during this administration. How will the history books report this to our children?
Comment by had enough — September 1, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
it’s so gross and disgusting, we’ll have to hire Ken Starr to write it up.
This thread is about perverts, right?
September 1st, 2007 at 1:32 pmSen Craig fails to understand the legal system.
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
Isn’t is amazing coming from a man who was a lawmaker?
If he was hoping to avoid scrutiny, pleading guilty wasn’t the way to go. It’s almost as if he didn’t know court records are made public. And now he vows to “fight it like hell” after pleading guilty.
Simply amazing.
I have the feeling this is all smoke and mirrors for his Republican base, who will believe his claim of “entrapment”.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:34 pmTest
September 1st, 2007 at 1:35 pmComment by muckdog — September 1, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
You folks really need to stop masturbating every time a US soldier dies in Iraq.
The surge is working.
Comment by muckdog — August 8, 2007 @ 2:23 am
Hey *SSHOLE, got a question for you!
The above are indeed YOUR WORDS. Since you FANTASIZE ENDLESSLY that you’re some kind of extra-manly man, please own your own words and answer my question, *SSHOLE.
Suppose one of your mother’s friends just lost her son in Iraq, and this woman and your mother were crying over the news. Would you make
that comment to your mother and her friend?
It is a yes or no question, *SSHOLE
September 1st, 2007 at 1:36 pmNow, repeat after me:
David Vitter, David Vitter, David Vitter…
All GOP “family values” hypocrites need to go.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:38 pmWhat a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.
Comment by Angry Adam — September 1, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
Honorable man?
Bwahahahahahahahahaha
Just what part of “plead guilty” do you not understand, Einstein?
September 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pmwhat a pathetic troll….
David Vitter, David Vitter, David Vitter…
All GOP “family values†hypocrites need to go.
Comment by Webster
That isn’t going to happen for two reasons. 1) He committed his crime with a woman and not a man and 2) The governor of his state is not a Republican.
Some troll earlier accused the Democrats of “situational ethics”. Well how about the “situational ethics” of your beloved party?
September 1st, 2007 at 1:45 pmHe kept saying, “I’m not gay.” Did anyone ask him, “Okay, then, Senator. Are you bi-sexual?”
September 1st, 2007 at 1:45 pmI expected Sen. Larry Craig to deny cruising restrooms for sex even as he resigned from the Senate. He will never admit to his compulsive sexual behavior. Those who engage in potty sex are degenerates.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:49 pmWhat a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.
Comment by Angry Adam — September 1, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
Hey Adam, you forgot to mention Clinton!
September 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pmMR. Craig is ” a BAD BOY, a NAUGHTY BOY.” I’d even go so far as to call him “A NASTY, BAD, NAUGHTY BOY.”
:)
September 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pmI heard a commentator on TV say that the bathroom in question was far from the passenger waiting area for Craig’s flight, which had several restrooms near it. Why did Larry Craig walk all the way across the airport to a restroom located in the Mall shop area of the airport when he had restrooms that were closer to him?
September 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pm#2….Angry Adam wrote:
[ what a pathetic witch- hunt that led to resignation of an honorable man who served his country well]
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Three things:
1.Why DID he accept the ‘guilty plea’,he is not a minor or retart.
2. Why did Craig conceal all of this from everybody,including his own wife ,by his own words.
3. He had over 3 months to fight the charge, since June ,if he was innocent…but he chose not to.
Can’t you see that Mr. Adam…describing Craig as an ‘honorable man’.?
Mr. Angry Adam:
You did not tell us why Craig is’ honorable’ man to you? if he chose this muddy path himself by his own actions ,disrespecting the people of Idaho who elected him?
September 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pm“Okay, then, Senator. Are you bi-sexual?â€
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — September 1, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Actually, he might have been factually correct, Wayne, if he meant “gay” as in, “happy”. Craig certainly isn’t having a good time these days, so it is accurate for him to say, he’s not feelin’ too “gay” right now.
**smirk**… BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… whew… that’s kinda tirn’, but it’s just so much fun to do!! :-D!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
September 1st, 2007 at 1:51 pmLarry Craig’s parting statement featured that classic Republican denial of culpability, the Unpology.
Announcing his September 30th resignation, the Idaho GOP Senator artfully avoided accepting accountability for his men’s room escapades. Instead, he offered the appearance of apology only for their aftermath:
“I apologize for what I have caused. For any public official at this moment in time to be standing with Larry Craig is in itself a humbling experience. I have little control over what people choose to believe.”
Craig’s evasion is just the latest example of the Republican art of the unpology. Facing recriminations for ethical failings, racist behavior, sexist statements or outright criminality, this new generation of Republican wrong-doers delivers the facade of apology by uttering obligatory words of remorse devoid of actual regret, contrition - or even an admission of guilt.
For more details, see:
September 1st, 2007 at 1:52 pm“The Unpology of Larry Craig.”
I think that if he’d have stayed, it would have better.
He would have had to avoid even the appearance of hypocrisy in anything he said or did.
His successor won’t have those same concerns.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:53 pmWatching the hypocrisy of the “Family Values” gang has been amusing, but watching Pubbies cannabalize their own has been fall down hilarious!
After all the Mau-Mauing over homosexual agendas and all things “homoerotic” to see Pubbies make Missionary Stew out of a twit like Craig is just plain comedy!
September 1st, 2007 at 1:58 pmHe resigned two days ago? The closet. The secrecy. The republicans.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:01 pmAnother Pubiclicun down the intertubes…
September 1st, 2007 at 2:04 pmAs easy as it would be to gloat, this is obviously a repeating pattern. It’s so unsafe for these guys to be openly gay that they’re forced to sink to levels of bathroom sex, and solicitations by email…
Of course, taking a seethingly homophobic political stance does not help his case any, so I’ll gloat a tiny bit.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:05 pmAngry Adam wrote, ‘What a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.’
Yeah, I have to jump in here. Republicans scream that democrats are using ‘political theater’ and now doing ‘witch hunts’. But what EXACTLY were the republicans doing to Clinton if not political theater and witch hunts???
My god republicans are hypocrites. And yes, this smacks of even more hypocrisy given that Vitter hasn’t been called to resign for his prostitution fetish.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:06 pmI - da - ho (new name for Larry Craig) is gone. Good riddance.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pmHomosexuals are God’s creation. Being gay is not the sin. Being a sanctimonious hypocritical moral reighwinger is a sin. There is a special place in hell for the GOP.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:12 pmSo he’ll be needin a month to get his ‘affairs’ in order??
September 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pmPicking up random pieces of toilet paper from a public bathroom floor. That still slays me. Lamest.excuse.ever.
Comment by troqua — September 1, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
LOL That is lame and gross. I loved Olbermann’s ‘reenactment’ based on the police records. LOL
September 1st, 2007 at 2:20 pmDude, do yourself, YOUR WIFE, and the world a favor, and come out of the closet. You won’t have to worry about getting it on in the public toilet/ getting busted, and you will probably find lots of Log Cabin Republi-SCUM masochists and closeted GOP dudes , and even lots of tasty little College Republicans you can mentor.
Democrats don’t have to resign, they come out and live normal lives. You don’t hear of them having tearoom ‘action’.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:26 pmWHICH is more healthy?
Sen Craig fails to understand the legal system.
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
He also failed to understand that even if he had pled not guilty, this event in the bathroom would have eventually been revealed to the public anyway.
As to why he is not leaving until the end of Sept., is it possible that he is hoping to “fight the charges” and try to clear himself before that time, allowing him to, um, change his mind about leaving?
One more thing…as for the people who are complaining that the cops would be better off out on the streets solving “real crimes” instead of hanging out in restrooms looking for sexual predators, I for one am glad there is one less weirdo on the loose. Suppose it had been a 16 year old boy in the stall next to the Senator, instead of an undercover cop?
September 1st, 2007 at 2:26 pmHe also failed to understand that even if he had pled not guilty, this event in the bathroom would have eventually been revealed to the public anyway.
true, but he would have alot more people defending him as “Innocent until proven guilty” Even some on the left. Granted not on this site, but in many other places.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:30 pmWhat a pathetic witch-hunt that led to the resignation of an honorable man who served his country well.
Comment by Angry Adam — September 1, 2007 @ 12:54 pm
Republicans are expert at pathetic witch-hunts.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:33 pmI think Craig should have donned a diaper and refused to go.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:35 pmIt worked for Vitter.
People who cruise in glass bathrooms shouldn’t troll thrones.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:36 pmThere’s no doubt in my mind his wife knows, has known, he is gay. He married her, a staffer, back in the early 80s, right after he pre-emptively denied he was involved in the page-drug scandal that rocked the House. He then adopted her children (the news media fails to point that out), and presto-chango- instant family. They never had any children from their union.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:36 pmComment by troqua — September 1, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
Yes, anyman that marries a woman with kids and then has no more with her must be gay.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:38 pmGranted not on this site, but in many other places.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 2:30 pm
Wrong, dumbass. This site is just as soft on the not-proven-guilty repukes as any other liberal site. That’s the way we are, fair and balanced. Try it sometime.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:39 pmOh no….Craig, Gonzo, Snow, Rove, Rummy, What he hell am I going to do…I need someone to HATE….I am a Democrat and thats what we do….we cause problems and point to others, we belittle Repugs with hate and condesention, we do that here on daily basis for recreation and it makes us feel good/superior. I think I will go lay down and think about this one for a while.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:39 pmes, anyman that marries a woman with kids and then has no more with her must be gay.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
any politician that marries a staffer to deflect charges of homosexuality sounds pretty desperate to me.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:40 pmYou’re all missing the point. Craig was thrown under the bus by his colleagues because his replacement will be appointed by a republican governor. This was a despicable political move by the rest of the GOP.
Vitter would have to get caught pants-down on video tape before they’d do the same to him.
That’s the hypocrisy in this story.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:41 pmComment by ronjazz — September 1, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Ok, Ron, since you are so fair and balanced and like the constitution so much (Believing in Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law). Is Bush a criminal? Cheney? Rove? If so what crimes have they been proven guilty of in a court of law?
September 1st, 2007 at 2:42 pmComment by Carlester — September 1, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Oh no, all my heroes are getting fired or arrested, retiring and running away, shirking their responsibilites and leaving my poor president all by his lonesome, what to do, what to do? Oh, I’ll blame the Democrats for the corruption and treason of my leaders! That’ll work, then I’ll go to TP and show them all how smart and responsible I am! What a plan! I’ll show them all about personal Responsibility!
September 1st, 2007 at 2:44 pmCarlester is left with only this…………………
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ypa75axdK6o
September 1st, 2007 at 2:48 pmany politician that marries a staffer to deflect charges of homosexuality sounds pretty desperate to me.
Comment by ronjazz — September 1, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
I’m not doubting he is, I’m saying the reasons posted aren’t proof of it. Second what “Crystal Ball” is telling you that is why he married his staffer? It obviously couldn’t be because they loved each other. So instead you make up your own reasons and start calling them facts. Getting others to follow along.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:50 pmOk, Ron, since you are so fair and balanced and like the constitution so much (Believing in Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law). Is Bush a criminal? Cheney? Rove? If so what crimes have they been proven guilty of in a court of law?
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
well, Bush and Cheney have several DUI convictions between them, but don’t let that sway you in your fellatio of them. As for the rest of it, I’m perfectly happy to see tehm get fair trials at the Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity, all three of them. Cheney is expecially suspect in the shooting of his lawyer buddy, as several laws were broken and ignored in that case, because of political pull and corruption. I certainly understand if you don’t want your paper tigers brought to justice; you have a lot invested in your pride and hubris, but the record is clear, and mutiple crimes have been committed by Bush, cheney and Rove. Bringing them to justice is all the more difficult by their wanton disregard of the Constitution and destruction of the DOJ, but we’ll get them. In the meantime, you’re perfectly free to consider them innocent until proven guilty. The fact that you have no moral center or patriotism should bother you more than me but, of course, it won’t, because you actually have no moral center or patriotism.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:50 pmtrue, but he would have alot more people defending him as “Innocent until proven guilty†Even some on the left. Granted not on this site, but in many other places.Comment by Tundra
And what makes you say that Tundra. Still smarting from admitting that you would drop a nuclear bomb on an innocent country just because YOUR President told you to?
You seem to forget that it is the Republicans who were calling for his resignation, not the Democrats. I expect that the Democrats would have supported “innocent until proven guilty” if he had not plead guilty, way more than the Republicans would have. It’s obvious that it was the “gay” implications of this situation that bothered the Republicans, otherwise they would be bothered about Vitter and his “ethics”.
I have not read one post on TP that would indicate the progressives here would have gone after him if he had not plead guilty. It was the homophobic trolls here who became borderline hysterical about him, not the progressives. Actually, the only thing the progressives on this site have gone after him is for his blatant hypocracy.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:54 pmIt’s nice of you to bring up the Constitution, tundra, since the crimes of Bush, Cheney and Rove have made it all but useless. These are not common criminals; these are international terrorists who have highjacked a country and its Department Of justice specifically to avoid being convicted of their crimes. They will get their due; international terrorists have a large target on them, and they will stand in the dock at the Hague, and be led away in chains to their cells to await their deaths. You’ll see.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:54 pmKeep the personal attacks flowing, I lose sleep over them honestly! I suppose it makes you feel good, that’s nice though as long as I can help.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:56 pmAnybody who’d tell a cop that he was just picking up the toilet paper off the floor of the cop’s stall deserves any and all scorn that can be heaped on them.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:57 pmIs Bush a criminal? Cheney? Rove? If so what crimes have they been proven guilty of in a court of law?
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
The Bush administration’s lack of interest in recovering stolen funds is one of the great scandals of the war. The White House has failed to litigate a single case against a contractor under the False Claims Act and has not sued anybody for breach of contract.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:57 pmMy question is …what crimes have they turned a blind eye to..especially when it concerns their political supporters.
I’m not doubting he is, I’m saying the reasons posted aren’t proof of it. Second what “Crystal Ball†is telling you that is why he married his staffer? It obviously couldn’t be because they loved each other. So instead you make up your own reasons and start calling them facts. Getting others to follow along.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Are you following along? smart boy. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, and has been accused of being a pervert for 25 years, it probably is a duck. Next you’ll be claiming that Anna Nicole Smith married the codger for sex.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:57 pmOk, Ron, since you are so fair and balanced and like the constitution so much (Believing in Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law). Is Bush a criminal? Cheney? Rove? If so what crimes have they been proven guilty of in a court of law?
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
So Bush can admit to breaking the law (i.e. warrantless wiretapping), but until a court confirms his guilt, he is innocent?
Remember…several Republican Congressmen who are lawyers agreed that the law was broken, as did the ABA.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:58 pmYes, anyman that marries a woman with kids and then has no more with her must be gay.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
Is that what I said? It’s just part of the “package” so to speak. Makes sense in hindsight.
Tapping one’s feet on the public bathroom floor doesn’t mean he’s gay either - but the ENTIRE pattern of behavior, including the tape and his plea does.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:59 pm“Ok, Ron, since you are so fair and balanced and like the constitution so much (Believing in Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law). Is Bush a criminal? Cheney? Rove? If so what crimes have they been proven guilty of in a court of law?
Comment by Tundra”
No, Tundra, they have not been proven guilty in a court of law. They have been proven guilty by implication by their hiding behind Executive Privilege and ignoring Subpoenas to avoid investigators finding out the true extent of their crimes.
Answer this question, please Tundra. If they have not committed any crimes and have done nothing wrong, then why are they obstructing every investigation by either claiming Executive Privilege or ignoring lawful Subpoenas? If they have nothing to hide, why are they unwilling to have a full investigation and letting the chips fall where they may.
BTW, you claim to be a veteran. What do you think about the Bush Administration refusing to allow investigators access to Pat Tillman’s records? Do you care that there is a possibility that Pat Tillman was murdered? Or does your fealty towards the “Commander and Chief” overrun a need to find out the truth in the death of Pat Tillman?
September 1st, 2007 at 2:59 pmhave not read one post on TP that would indicate the progressives here would have gone after him if he had not plead guilty.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 1, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
Would you like me to link several other Republican sex scandals that haven’t been decided yet for ya?
Oh wait he would have been different, you wouldn’t have convicted him like that priest et al.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:59 pmSo Bush can admit to breaking the law (i.e. warrantless wiretapping), but until a court confirms his guilt, he is innocent?
Um yeah it’s kind of how it works.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:00 pmOh no….Craig, Gonzo, Snow, Rove, Rummy, What he hell am I going to do…I need someone to HATE….I am a Democrat and thats what we do….we cause problems and point to others, we belittle Repugs with hate and condesention, we do that here on daily basis for recreation and it makes us feel good/superior. I think I will go lay down and think about this one for a while.
Comment by Carlester
There, I fixed it for you.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:02 pmAnswer this question, please Tundra. If they have not committed any crimes and have done nothing wrong, then why are they obstructing every investigation by either claiming Executive Privilege or ignoring lawful Subpoenas? If they have nothing to hide, why are they unwilling to have a full investigation and letting the chips fall where they may.
Sure, I’ll try and answer it. Because the burden of proof isn’t on them to prove they are innocent. It’s kind of a constitution thing. If you had 3,000 lawsuits open a day naming you, I am pretty sure you would make them Subponea you. Perhaps you would quit working to answer questions all day from lawyers about every topic from promoting the color green to national defense issues.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:04 pm“Oh wait he would have been different, you wouldn’t have convicted him like that priest et al.
Comment by Tundra “
No Tundra, what we would like is for you to link to any post on this site or other progressive sites where progressives went after a Republican for their sexual orientation or sexual acts, and not because their actions show them to be hypocrites. I haven’t read any, so you should enlighten us by links.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:04 pmKeep the personal attacks flowing, I lose sleep over them honestly! I suppose it makes you feel good, that’s nice though as long as I can help.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
I’m just trying to speak in rightard, so you’ll understand clearly. Personal attacks ahve been the ammunition of the GOP since Atwater filthied the process. Eventually, we get sick of it, and fight fire with fire. Until the Atwar-Rove tactics of dividing loyal Americans into fighting camps came along, reasonable, even heated disagreements took place all the time over policy issues and honest differences, with strong stances, but very little personal invective. Now, that has been ended, and not by the Left. So, yes, you’re going to get a faceful of personal invective, because your side has changed the rules. Too bad for you, talk to your leadership about behaving like loyal Americans again, instead of treating the majority in this country like traitors. Only then will we be able to reason over our differences. we are sick of being lied to every day; we are sick of a deserter making jokes about WMDs, we are sick of a 5-deferment chickenhawk Veep enriching himself and his friends while enslaving National Guard mothers and fathers in the battle for cheap oil. we’re not taking it any more. You can join us in cleaning out the sewer, or you can be the targets of our rage.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:05 pm#88 - Tundra, you are pathetic. It was OK for the Republicans to have a special prosecutor (approved by Clinton, BTW) to investigate Clinton’s blow job and any other thing he may have done in his life, to the tune of fifty million dollars, but it is not OK for the Democrats to have a special prosecutor to investigate the crimes of the Bush Crime Family.
You truly are a Republican troll and your critical thinking skills are on the par with the lowest of the trolls on this site.
If this was a Democratic President who was obstructing justice, you would be screaming bloody murder like all the other hypocritical Republicans would be.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:07 pmIt’s kind of a constitution thing.
Comment by Tundra
Please point out where that is in the Constitution, that if the representatives of the People request documents so that they can fulfill the obligation of oversight for the People, the Executive can ignore them because there are just too many and they are too busy.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:07 pmBTW, you claim to be a veteran.
Yeah I am
What do you think about the Bush Administration refusing to allow investigators access to Pat Tillman’s records?
There is a whole lot publically available now.
Do you care that there is a possibility that Pat Tillman was murdered?
I suppose they can keep digging if they want to keep hunting till they find the answer they decided it was before starting.
Or does your fealty towards the “Commander and Chief†overrun a need to find out the truth in the death of Pat Tillman?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:08 pmPat Tillman needs to be respected and put to rest. I have read over 400 pages of documents related to that mission (All publically available) He was highly respected by his teams and a true rolemodel to the people he commanded.
And, Tundra, let’s not forget Cheney shooting a man in the face and then refusing to let the local police question him until the next morning. Tell us, why do you think he did this? Because he is the VP and fu*k everyone else?
What about the administration using RNC e-mail accounts to conduct official government business when the law requires them to use official e-mail systems which are to then be properly archived?
How about Cheney refusing to allow the National Archives to conduct oversight of the storing and handling of classified information, which I believe is also required by law?
How about Bush personally blocking an investigation by the Justice Department wanting to look into the behavior of lawyers regarding deliberations of the legalities regarding warrantless wiretapping?
Are you willing to say “so what?” to these incidents simply because the pussy Democrats and Republicans in Congress won’t do their jobs? Or because no court has yet to review any of these cases?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:08 pmUm yeah it’s kind of how it works.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
uh, no it doesn’t. Innocence is not the issue, guilt is. Everybody knows, and many have admitted, he is not innocent. Getting him found guilty will mean that the process has to work, if he has broken the process, that makes him not guilty, yet, but certainly not innocent. Read some law.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:09 pmKeep the personal attacks flowing, I lose sleep over them honestly! I suppose it makes you feel good, that’s nice though as long as I can help.
Comment by Tundra
What “personal attacks”? Like pointing out that you admitted you would willingly kill millions of innocent people just because your President told you to do it? If you take that personally, then perhaps you should take a look at yourself in the mirror.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:09 pmTells us, Tundra, what it is that you think that Bush is trying to hide by invoking Executive Privilege regarding the investigations into the Pat Tillman death? If he or members of his administration have done nothing illegal, why is he hiding behind EP?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:10 pm#88 - Tundra, you are pathetic. It was OK for the Republicans to have a special prosecutor (approved by Clinton, BTW) to investigate Clinton’s blow job and any other thing he may have done in his life, to the tune of fifty million dollars, but it is not OK for the Democrats to have a special prosecutor to investigate the crimes of the Bush Crime Family.
Please feel free to point out anywhere that I said it was OK? Please point out anywhere I ever said I disliked Clinton over anything other than NAFTA?
Oh wait you can’t, That’s right you project and put words in other peoples mouths because you lack the ability to see things on a case by case basis.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:10 pmI’m not sure someone who doesn’t understand what the separation date on their DD214 is for really served in the military. But I do see we have some problems with logic and critical thinking here, so anything’s possible.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:11 pmPat Tillman needs to be respected and put to rest. I have read over 400 pages of documents related to that mission (All publically available) He was highly respected by his teams and a true rolemodel to the people he commanded.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
and he is dead, by friendly fire. and his diaries and personal belongings were destroyed, against all military law and custom. you are a brainwashed fool, and were never in service.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:11 pmUm yeah it’s kind of how it works.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
And so you are willing to give Bush a free ride.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:12 pmUm yeah it’s kind of how it works.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
So while Bush admits to breaking the law, you will continue to say that he hasn’t broken it.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:13 pm“Sure, I’ll try and answer it. Because the burden of proof isn’t on them to prove they are innocent. It’s kind of a constitution thing. If you had 3,000 lawsuits open a day naming you, I am pretty sure you would make them Subponea you. Perhaps you would quit working to answer questions all day from lawyers about every topic from promoting the color green to national defense issues.
Comment by Tundra “
This is true, the burden of proof is on the prosecutors. But, how are they ever going to find out the proof when Bush obstructs them every time they try to get information. So your situational ethics say that a person has done nothing wrong and can be considered innocent if that person can be successful in covering up their crimes and obstructing the investigators from finding out the truth.
Tundra, I award you the title of the “Situational Ethics Queen”.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:14 pmRespect for tillman would certainly include answereing his families many questions about the process whereby the military hid the cause of death and then destroyed all the evidence. Lying to and ignoring a dead soldier’s family is not showing respect for the man; just the opposite. it is showing they dont care about Tillman or his family, or about America.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:14 pm“Do you care that there is a possibility that Pat Tillman was murdered?
I suppose they can keep digging if they want to keep hunting till they find the answer they decided it was before starting.”
Well, then explain to us why, when the coroner asked for a criminal investigation due to the fact that he was shot three times in the forehead from a short distance (execution style), the military refused to conduct an investigation.
Also, please explain to us why they burned his uniform and his diary at the scene?
Inquiring minds need to know.
You are a disgrace to the military in that you are willing to bend to the propaganda you are fed by your government. I am very happy that you are no longer in the military. I would not want to know that someone I loved was in the same unit as you are. With your fealty to your Commander in Chief, you would have been the one to execute Pat Tillman if your unit commander had told you to do so.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:18 pmI still cannot, for the life of me, understand how EP applies to the Tillman records. Unless it would show that the WH knew all along that it was friendly fire, or there was a coverup, and they still went out with the lie about his death. But even Bush couldn’t be that unfeeling and unsympathetic toward a soldier’s family, could he?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:19 pmWith your fealty to your Commander and Chief…
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 1, 2007
Had to fix that for you, bilbo. Apparently that’s how some in the “military” refer to him these days.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:21 pm“Oh wait you can’t, That’s right you project and put words in other peoples mouths because you lack the ability to see things on a case by case basis.
Comment by Tundra “
Like you would see anything on a “case by case basis” if your Commander in Chief told you to murder millions of innocent people. You wouldn’t think “Gee, is this really the right and moral thing to do”? You would just follow your orders instead of looking at things on a “case by base” basis?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:22 pmAnd so you are willing to give Bush a free ride.
Nope, I think they should investigate each and every thing (Specifically the wiretapping and other things that they did against our personal liberties) But I’m not calling him guilty till they follow the rule of law and provide the evidence, and convict.
I’m not the judge/jury.
If people don’t like the powers he has, the constitution allows us to change them as it’s a living document. We gave him the powers to stop investigations then get mad when he does. We authorized him to “Use any means he felt was necessary to fight terrorism” then get mad when he does what we told him he could do.
I’m not saying I like the guy, I’m saying don’t give your kid a lollipop then complain when they take a lick.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:22 pmComment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
Tillman’s diary and uniform were both burned after he had been killed.
Justify that.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:23 pmAs per usual the post degenerates into a name calling poop fest between 2,3,or 4 individuals. Always.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:24 pmAs per usual the post degenerates into a name calling poop fest between 2,3,or 4 individuals. Always.
Comment by PigeonPoop — September 1, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
what’s your point, idiot? and who invited you anyway?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:26 pm“Nope, I think they should investigate each and every thing (Specifically the wiretapping and other things that they did against our personal liberties) But I’m not calling him guilty till they follow the rule of law and provide the evidence, and convict.
I’m not the judge/jury”Tundra
So, Tundra, how are they going to be able to investigate anything he has done when he hides behind EP and tells his minions to ignore subpoenas? You see nothing wrong with Bush obstructing the investigation into his part in these crimes? You said But I’m not calling him guilty till they follow the rule of law and provide the evidence, and convict. How about Bush following the rule of law and honoring subpoenas and providing the documents that he has been asked for? It’s ok for Bush not to follow the rule of law but the people investigating him have to follow the rule of law.
There’s your situational ethics again. Queen of Situational Ethics Tundra.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:26 pmWe authorized him to “Use any means he felt was necessary to fight terrorism†then get mad when he does what we told him he could do.
I’m not saying I like the guy, I’m saying don’t give your kid a lollipop then complain when they take a lick.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
No…we gave him the authority to use military force to fight terrorism.
Wiretapping does not qualify.
And show me where the Constitution allows Bush to block investigations, and explain in great detail how that overrides the checks and balances established in the same document.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:27 pmIf people don’t like the powers he has, the constitution allows us to change them as it’s a living document. We gave him the powers to stop investigations then get mad when he does. We authorized him to “Use any means he felt was necessary to fight terrorism†then get mad when he does what we told him he could do.Tundra
You are wrong on both points. No where in the constitution does it give the President the powers to stop investigations. And we (meaning Congress) did not authorize him to “Use any means he felt was necessary to fight terrorism”. Here is what it said:
He immediately ignored the first part of the resolution by claiming that Saddam had kicked out the weapons inspectors even though you could see them on the ground in Iraq on the television the night he said this. Then it said he could “defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq”
Both Bush and you choose to interpret that as blanket approval to go after “terrorists” anywhere in the world. It turns out that Iraq was not a threat posed to the United States so the Iraq occupation should have stopped the day that we finally knew that Bush’s reasons for invading Iraq were all lies.
Again, your situational ethics, Tundra Queen of Situational Ethics.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:32 pmI wasn’t aware an invitation was required. My bad.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:33 pmWhy is Larrry not answering my messages I have been leaving on the notgaytearoombuddies.cum ??? I want to hook up tomorrow. I need it bad…. I am just crushed. He was such a flirt, and his hand signals at our stall dates were so imaginative and artistic.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:34 pmI’m going to miss him.
We authorized him to “Use any means he felt was necessary to fight terrorism†then get mad when he does what we told him he could do.
Comment by Tundra — September 1, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
Besides…giving him the means to fight terrorism, whether those “means” involve military activity or not, does not automatically give him the right to break laws.
Bush admitted to breaking the law in regards to warrantless wiretapping. Maybe you disagree, but that to me is as much as an admission of guilt.
If someone walks into your home and you witness him shooting and killing a member of your family, are you going to turn to the murderer (sorry…”alleged” murderer) and tell him that you don’t believe he shot your family member until a court of law proves it?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:38 pmWhat’s the matter Tundra, cat got your tongue. Or have you left the building because you have been proven to be a Situational Ethics Queen?
Why don’t you answer the questions people have asked you? Don’t have any answers? Well maybe you should put on your thinking cap and figure out why.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:40 pmWasn’t Senator Craig the counter tenor in that now defunct Senate barbershop quartet? Sounds gay to me. Also, rumor has it that he was planning on starting a Senate tap dancing group along with LIndsey Graham and Karl Rove. Perhaps he was simply recruiting members while cruising through MSP airport.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:41 pmHe immediately ignored the first part of the resolution by claiming that Saddam had kicked out the weapons inspectors even though you could see them on the ground in Iraq on the television the night he said this.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 1, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
If I may elaborate on your fine post, it was Bush himself who withdrew the weapons inspectors from Iraq (before their search for WMDs was complete, I might add) so that we could invade.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:43 pmWell, folks, it’s been fun, but I’ve got to go mow the yard. Be back later.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:44 pmISNT this whole discussion way off TOPIC??? I thought this item involved SEnator Craig…..not Geneva, Iraq or Mother Teresa. Some message discipline or I will have to get nasty. Very nasty.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:47 pm“I apologize for what I have caused,†Craig said.
Good. Now get the help you need from the Church!
September 1st, 2007 at 4:10 pmGood. Now get the help you need from the Church!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 1, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
But there are so many to choose from. I fI was he I’d avoid all of the one’s with phallic steeples
September 1st, 2007 at 4:29 pmso long hypocrite.
September 1st, 2007 at 4:45 pmHe’ll only be replaced with an even worse far right extremist a$$hole.
September 1st, 2007 at 5:08 pmEx Senator Craig will have time to think about what he said about Bill Clinton so many years ago, as will Vitter. Many people talk a good talk about who is a sinner but behind the vial is the truth. Many more Republicans are just like Craig but aren’t man enough to step forward. They to will lie until the cows come home but God knows. Craig excuse that he has a family is old school. Many people used the front of having a family to make people think they weren’t gay. Look at Tucker Carlson as he knows , we know but he pushes the family in our face. People should just be who ever they are and others should respect them for it. Didn’t Strom Thurmond teach us anything. As a man during the time of racism he fell in love with a black girl. He covered up that secret until his death. But he never stop taking care of the child made from love right to the end. The two faces of Strom Thurmond. Now Craig will have to decide if he will come out and be proud of who he is or will he continue to lie even when everyone knows the truth.
September 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pmfirst sign of an innocent man: he pleads guilty. Dumbs$$ Repub (sorry, that’s redundant)
September 1st, 2007 at 5:24 pmThe lessons people should learn now from all of this that they cannot , and should not trust these ‘family values’ politiicians wrapping themselves with virtues,and using these so called ‘Family Vlues’ schemes to help themselves winning political seats,and hold on to the seats they are occupying.
September 1st, 2007 at 6:04 pmThe acts of Senator Craig reflects all of this,specially when he attacked Clinton,and also on his voting record pretending to be the protector of values.
The acts of Senator Craig cannot be defended.
People should learn that when it comes to values & virtues not to put their trust in one basket, but rather examine facts by not surrendering full trust to one party or a group.
CNN’s Dana Bash reports that Craig continues to insist that he is innocent of the charges and will be “fighting it like hell.â€
Except he already pleaded guilty to the charges….
September 1st, 2007 at 6:47 pmHey Larry, Call me!! XOXOXO
September 1st, 2007 at 6:49 pmHe F’d up, too bad for him, it was the hypocracy that did him in, oh, and that guilty plea.
September 1st, 2007 at 7:24 pmHypocracy didn’t do Sen. Craig in, it was his using a public restroom to solicit sex. If he had gone to a night club, or any other “social” environment, in which sexual advances are expected, then there wouldn’t be any problem. Instead, he did something inappropriate for the location, and did it to a cop.
This actually works out for Republicans, because Sen. Craig was vulnerable in the next election, and was expected to not run, to allow a better candidate to win. Now, that candidate is sworn in as Senator, and has an automatic boost for the upcoming election.
September 1st, 2007 at 7:39 pmHow can you plead guilty… and then claim you’re innocent?
Can someone explain this to me?!
September 1st, 2007 at 7:45 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — September 1, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Nope. Craig is my Senator, and it was the hypocrisy that did him in.
Do you have a link showing that Craig was not intending to run in 08? I’d sure love to see it!
And what’s your definition of “better?” I already think Risch is “better” than Craig. Does that make you nervous?
September 1st, 2007 at 7:57 pmHow can you plead guilty… and then claim you’re innocent?
Can someone explain this to me?!
Comment by jake3988 — September 1, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
If the Judge was in the least bit competent in doing his job, he wouldn’t have accepted a guilty plea from someone who seemed unsure. Craig can appeal, but it wouldn’t be worth it. He’s not going to re-gain any footing by pursuing the issue.
September 1st, 2007 at 7:59 pmSTOP Spatial Profiling!
September 1st, 2007 at 9:00 pmMake war and you get rewarded.
Have sex and you get punished.
There’s something not quite right about that.
September 1st, 2007 at 9:29 pmLarry Craig is/was a U.S. Senator…
…with better than 30 years of experience in the public domain…
…the fact that he’s a dumb a*s hypocritical conned’selfserving Repulsivescum inbred…
…has been his undoing…
…NOBODY (except for a sexual deviant)…
…STARES at someone through a bathroom stall door…
…or runs his/her hands along the bottom of a filthy bathroom stall divider…
…or picks up TOILET PAPER off the public restroom floor!
September 1st, 2007 at 9:55 pmlook - i’ve seen this situation before on an epeisode of seinfeld - maybe he was out of toilet paper and the cop didn’t “have a sqaure to spare”
September 1st, 2007 at 10:08 pmComment by ipod — September 1, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
“Not a square? Not a ply?” ^_^
September 1st, 2007 at 10:13 pmCraig was NOT waving his hand under the stall for toilet paper, but until this event happened if I was taking a crap in a public restroom stall and a hand appeared, then I would have handed the person a wad of toilet paper and probably been surprised when the guy yelled: “Give me your rod cupcake” > lol.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:46 pmComment by Jason M. Hendler — September 1, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
And you’re an idiot, which we already knew. Of course it was hypocrisy…that being an anti-gay Republican who solicits sex from the same gender.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:27 pmhttp://www.rockymountainnews.com/ drmn/ local/ article/ 0,1299,DRMN_15_5684041,00.html
September 1st, 2007 at 11:44 pmmaybe craig has done society a favour - by pleading guilty to something he didn’t do (lol),he has inadvertently thrown the shady world of neocon alternative sexual practices into turmoil - now conservative perverts all over the country will be desperatly trying to come up with new hand signals and morse-code foot taps (since the bathroom cop has blown the lid on the common ones used) to reach out to one another and confusion will reign and it will be a sexual deviant babel - just imagine,one guy stamping his feet and waving his hands frantically in the hope of an invitation ‘next door’ may be misinterpreted as an invitation to play ‘rock,paper, scissors
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 amThis actually works out for Republicans, because Sen. Craig was vulnerable in the next election, and was expected to not run, to allow a better candidate to win. Now, that candidate is sworn in as Senator, and has an automatic boost for the upcoming election.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — September 1, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
This is stupider than the usual Nazi crap you post, Hendler. if Craig was leaving, why was he fighting so hard, and why is he “continuing to fight”? You’re just plain lying now, and trying not to cry. Give it up, go get some tissues. i hear the men’s room floor has some available, if larry hasn’t already grabbed them.
You’re really pathetic.
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:34 amAnybody check Faux Newz? Have they described Craig as a Dem yet?
September 2nd, 2007 at 8:52 am#148 - on the contrary - i’ve seen a fixed noise hannity interview with tom delay and they are making him out to be a tragic victim of circumstance and blaiming the msm - no surprises there i guess
September 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 amI”M NOT GAY! I’M NOT GAY! You guys don’t understand. How could I hit on a cop in the bathroom, when I’M NOT GAY! Just because I peeked into his stall first, snapped my fingers, then when into the stall, tapped his foot with mine, and rubbed my left hand under the stall, doesn’t mean I’M GAY! Are those the actions of a Gay man or not. I mean I’M NOY GAY! How many times do I have to tell you guys the same thing. OK, my actions make me look gay, but I’m not GAY! How many times to I have to spell it out. G A Y, I’m not G A Y. I just like men, but that doesn’t mean I’m GAY. After all I’m from Idaho. How many gay do you know from Idaho except me? What I meant to say was, I’M NOT GAY!
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pm#150…….not that there’s anything wrong with it
September 2nd, 2007 at 6:39 pmMaybe he isn’t gay . . . http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/ asheesh_siddique/ 2007/ 08/ one_or_the_other.html
September 2nd, 2007 at 8:42 pmActually, the fall of Craig reminds me of a Republican gay Salem witch hunt.
I did not like anything the Mr. Craig stood for, but the visciousness of the anti-gay crowd is stupifying.
and ……no I am not gay, just liberal.
September 3rd, 2007 at 2:00 amSen. Craig you are busted, as you have done in the past, a untold number of times, you thought you would get a little man juice on your chin, before you went home. The only question Sen. Craig is, do you spit or swallow? You are a nasty, nasty man, would you suck a man’s dick while he was shitting? I think you would, freak . You prove that freaks not only come out at night.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:26 am