Moyers Responds To Wallace’s Baseless Slander: Repeated Requests To Rove Went Unanswered
Moyers Responds To Wallace’s Baseless Slander: Repeated Requests To Rove Went Unanswered
On Aug. 17, PBS’s Bill Moyers criticized Karl Rove for cynically invoking Christianity for political purposes while telling others that he is an agnostic. Moyers called Rove “a skeptic, a secular manipulator.”
Two days later, Rove appeared on Fox News Sunday and took on Moyers’s criticism. “I’m a Christian. I go to church. I’m an Episcopalian,” responded Rove. “You know, Mr. Moyers ought to do a little bit better research before he does another drive-by slander.”
Then on Aug. 26, Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace criticized Moyers, stating that he needs to do “reporting 101“:
If you want to find out about someone’s religious beliefs, a good first step might be to ask him. … Of course, you never called Rove. That’s reporting 101, but it would have gotten in the way of a tasty story line about a non-believer flimflamming the Christian right. I guess, Bill, reporting is easier when you don’t worry about the facts.
Watch it:
But on Thursday, Rick Byrne, Director of Communications for Bill Moyers Journal, wrote that the show repeatedly tried to contact Rove. It never received a response:
For the record, Bill Moyers did ask Karl Rove to come on BILL MOYERS JOURNAL, by fax and by mail. These requests were made before Chris Wallace responded on-air on Fox News Sunday to Bill Moyers’ letter, and we still haven’t heard from Karl Rove.
Wallace should have spoken to Moyers and asked him if he tried to contact Rove, before baselessly accusing him of sloppy journalism. “That’s reporting 101.”
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The problem is, moyers is a journalist, wallace is a noefacist stenographer.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:31 amthat’s supposed to be neofacist.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:31 amaaahh..
September 1st, 2007 at 10:39 amInteresting phrasing, “These requests were made before Chris Wallace responded on-air on Fox News Sunday”. Were they made before the Moyers segment was filmed? It would make a difference.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:40 amChris Wallace and Faux News are a joke. I’d laugh if it all weren’t so tragic - I mean how many people have seen Bill Moyers repsonse compared to those that saw Wallace’s hit job on him.
Mike Wallace can’t be proud of the work his son does.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:45 amDemocrats are the party of retreat and defeat.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:48 amcome on, Wallace is just a no-talent, no-lip little jerk off, calling him an actual news journalist is like calling Snoopy a World War I flying ace.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:49 amEpiscopalian? Is that the religion of fruits and nuts? Funny Rove picked the one which is most digestable.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:50 amLemme guess…Chris Wallace called Karl Rove to ask if Bill Moyers had called…and Karl Rove lied.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:50 amThis looks like a press tizzy fight over stupid things. Rove can claim all kinds of nonsense, but his mean actions denote he is not real Christian.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:54 amI’m sorry, but I don’t buy Amanda’s post, as much as I would like to. What Rick Byrne said is that Moyers had repeatedly tried to get Rove on the program; he never says that Moyers asked Rove a specific question about his piety. In fact, it appears that Moyers didn’t ask Rove any questions at all, because Rove wouldn’t come on the show (which is a given, really; Rove’s not going on television with anyone who won’t lob softballs to him).
September 1st, 2007 at 10:55 amI see we have a namejacker in this thread.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:55 amI look forward to the day when names like Karl Rove, Dick Cheney & GWB are all spoken in the past tense. A quick death would be too kind for the three of them.
September 1st, 2007 at 10:58 am“…like Karl Rove, Dick Cheney & GWB…”
Put ‘em on a C-130 doing supply runs into Bagdhad… community service so to speak.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:01 amHo-hum story. We already know what FOX News is. It’s been blocked from my cable for years so I can’t even accidentally surf to it. It’s time for people like Moyers and Olbermann to stop reacting to their drivel. It’s what they want. It gives seeming legitimacy to their viewers.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:05 am“bobwurst
Translation: Bob, worst American.”
One of the evils of homeschooling your kids is they gain no socialization skills.
Like “evil namejacker.”
September 1st, 2007 at 11:11 amSeeing as Think Progress didn’t see fit to give us an open thread of any sort today, I’ll just post this here:
Two Years ago today, we were in day 3 of shock. Finally, the National Guard starts bringing in needed manpower and materials, but in direct contrast to the show, other people who were coming in to help, such as a California rescue team and the Red Cross are denied access to the city due to ‘military’ and ’safety’ concerns. This set the show for a display that we’d never expected to see — men and women, children and elderly, begging for help, for food, and for rescue on American TV. This would begin the process of burning New Orleans into the national consciousness. Had this happened 1 year earlier, our history might have been greatly different, but timing is everything, and for 3 years, we’ve seen similar images of disinterest in people’s plights.
Images of those days will stay on forever. New Orleans residents, camped out in the Superdome in Louisiana heat, begging for food and water as the weakest of them began to secumb to the weather. People with guns turning away New Orleans evacuees from suburbs. The Red Cross and other emergency relief organizations turned away by the National guard. These images will forever define our country as a nation of people, in this case, a nation of jerks who don’t care for our fellow men. This is the topic for today.
Last night, I was talking to a friend who blurted out the ‘New Orleans people just need to stop asking for money and do things for themselves’ line. Before I start on my rant, let me explain something about this friend. He’s a good person, not one to let his fellow people suffer. Part of what made him utter this is the old-fashioned Southern Gentleman view that hard work can make anything happen. After he realized that money is required to make things happen in today’s world, he softened his stance, though he still believes that people need to, in his words, “come together.” Alas, if it were that simple. However, he’s been hammered with the idea that it’s the people of New Orleans’ fault that recovery hasn’t happened, and even he, a decent person of modest means himself, gave into the propaganda.
The propaganda is simple. The only one who will look into doing anything for you is you. Don’t look for help from others as that is against the American Way. Last time I checked, the American Way was to strive for the dream while still providing what you can to others. Churches emphasize that part of your duties on Earth is to give your time, money, and effort as much as you can to help those less fortunate than you. The Iraq War could be viewed in such a light, and in fact, the Conservatives try to paint it in that light, but the reality is that even when trying to help someone on the surface, the true goal of the current crop of conservatives is to suck money out of others around them to make their lives better. My friend sent me an article from USA Today that struck an uneasy chord. Several contractors hired for debris removal have gotten really fat over the work in Hurricane Katrina. For every dollar paid to the people who actually did the work, 5 to 6 dollars were kept by the contracting company (Katrina Promises). That’s a painful 80%+ overhead, for a job that isn’t completed to this day.
The people of New Orleans have been let down left and right. Money intended for hurricane reconstruction has flowed to the Mississippi coast, but New Orleans has only seen a trickle (according to one estimate I read, 90% of the reconstruction funds went to Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida). Favored contractors have been awarded no-bid contracts while local companies and workers are left high and dry. People are left to their own devices while conservatives crow about how they should have been prepared.
This ties into yesterday’s article about insurance. Again, it’s all about greed. Why care about the other guys, they could have done something to make themselves better. Is this the result of conservatism’s message? Is conservatism all about _me_? From what I’ve seen the last two years, it seems to be so. But this article must stay about Katrina. Today, Two Years Later, the water marks of the Storm of the Century remain. People continue to get fat on government pork while those who are most affected by the storm are left high and dry to fend for themselves, and the rest of us seem just peachy with saying that the storm’s aftermath was the fault of the City and State it touched, not the rest of us living in our comfortable homes away from the Gulf Coast.
The Me Generation has seen its message from God. Unlike Robertson, I won’t claim that God struck down New Orleans because of their sins. He struck down New Orleans and the rest of the gulf coast to remind us that greed _is_ a Deadly Sin. We all should see the lesson that this disaster put out.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:16 amJeremy in Denver | 09.01.07 - 11:17 am | #
“One of the evils of homeschooling your kids is they gain no socialization skills.”
And are often shut down in the basement for long periods of time.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:16 amThere’s also the fact that Rove is lying about his religious affiliations. He’s no more religious than Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hannity. Too them, Christianity is a badge of political identity, nothing more.
If you polled the Republican political leadership and they were honest, which they are not, you would find relatively few actual believers, i.e., truly beleive the Christian dogma that Christ is the son of God, was immaculately conceived, etc. It is as Moyers says, Christianity is a very convenient way to manipulate voters.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:17 am#5
How would you know how Mike Wallace feels about his son?
Presuming Moyers did contact Rove in a timely fashion and afford him an opportunity to respond, Rove’s alleged lack of response doesn’t justify Moyers blatantly gossiping about the man.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:22 amDon’t mean to pester, but what was the timing of the request to Rove? PBS says they asked before Wallace’s report… but did they ask before they filmed the piece? If they did, good. If not, then it looks like they did a hit piece on Rove and then either asked him to respond or got wind of Wallace’s criticism and were trying damage control.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:26 amMoyers will be in trouble if Rove comes out and agrees to be interviewed by turdhead billyboy now wont he?
September 1st, 2007 at 11:27 amUK General: Interlectually bankrupt
September 1st, 2007 at 11:30 ami can see your point, gummitch, about that specific detail…
but the subject is the fact that “Repeated Requests…Went Unanswered”
… i suppose byrne/moyers could have asked the question along with those requests, but the important fact is, they got no answers…
i was curious as to the length of time this has taken… guess it gets better legs if the shows themselves carry the responses…
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hey p, do you know what “on-air” means?
September 1st, 2007 at 11:35 amkinda the same difference as “filmed”…
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At the heart of this issue, as I see it, is that fact that prominent public servants of this administration only grant interviews to favored journalists and news organizations who “cooperate” with their tight control of information never imagining that they might have an obligation, as public servants, to the public at large.
It’s their practice of exclusivity of access that shows their deep disdain of the democratic process so clearly.
September 1st, 2007 at 11:52 amWhether Moyers attempted to contact Rove or not, I don’t see what difference it would make. Of course Rove would never admit that he used the religious right for political purposes and that he himself is not a religious man. To Rove, twisting the truth to his purposes is a basic component of his personality and it’s what he’s been doing his entire professional life. Rove might tell the truth under oath but don’t ever expect a truthful answer about anything from the guy otherwise.
A better source than Rove himself is a percipient witness to Rove’s behavior. David Kuo’s book “Tempting Faith” documents the hypocrisy of those in the Bush Administration and how they used the religious right. In the book, Kuo documents how Rove called Evangelicals “the nuts” and how in private he treated faith-based matters with disdain while publicly pretending to support them. Kuo served as Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives for several years before getting fed up with these guys.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:01 pmMike, an arrogant, second rate intellect.
Toady of the neocon thugs. Who cares what he thinks. Just another sock puppet propagandist for the White House.
Mike is no journalist. Just another Tony Snow White dwarf.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:08 pmThere are two apparently independent sources that claim Rove is an unbeliever - Christopher Hitchens and Rove biographer Wayne Slater.
Rove in response has stated that he is an Episcopalian.
I think we ought to research the possibility that it was the Episcopal Church that is spreading the story that Karl is an agnostic.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:10 pmDon’t mean to pester, but what was the timing of the request to Rove? PBS says they asked before Wallace’s report… but did they ask before they filmed the piece? If they did, good. If not, then it looks like they did a hit piece on Rove and then either asked him to respond or got wind of Wallace’s criticism and were trying damage control.
Comment by Phaedrus — September 1, 2007 @ 11:26 am
If only Phaedrus could have been equally scrutinizing the FOX reports of Bush/Cheney WMDs (mushroom cloud) in Iraq in 2002. Or skeptical of the Bush defense of Valerie Plame’s outing in 2003.
“I don’t mean to pester”, but why aren’t you questioning the timing of Rove’s whining? There MAY be more here than meets the eye, but you need to look in the mirror to find answers.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:14 pm“bobwurst
Translation: Bob, worst American.
Comment by The Evil Namejacker — September 1, 2007 @ 11:07 am”
Coming from the likes of you that is a badge of honor.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:15 pmCut me a break. How can you believe a word rover says? Is there anyone in USA who has done more damage to this country in terms of honesty, decency and truth than rove? A distinguished journalist like Moyers on one hand and a slime bucket of lies like rove on the other? Geez. karl go away, just go away.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:17 pmAccountability and FUX News? Wow…..couldn’t imagine those two words in the same sentence. I knew it was a fantasy….
September 1st, 2007 at 12:18 pmMan in the Middle -
It’s not gossip if Rove pushed for legislation based on faith and engineered campaigns based on winning the religious right. Both of which he did.
These questions, especially in the light of Craig, go to the heart of the hypocrisy of telling others how they should live, or in the case of faith based initiatives, how the government should spend our money.
But really, everyone knows that this whole moral values, Christianity bit is just an act by politicians on both sides. I probably don’t need to explain to you that politician do things that they don’t believe in order to win elections. I’m a little surprised that that Moyers pointing out the obvious is a shock to you.
Sincerely,
September 1st, 2007 at 12:21 pmBecause Karl Rove wouldn’t come on Moyer’s show, Moyers thought it was OK to lie and call him an atheist?
September 1st, 2007 at 12:31 pmMrs. Terkel,
September 1st, 2007 at 12:35 pmWould you please come on my radio program and discuss some concerns I have about allegations that you sacrifice infants to the Owl God Molech? If you do not accept my invitation I will assume that you in fact DO sacrifice children and I will post it all over the internet.
If you are still wondering if Rove is spiritually attuned or just tuned in to spiritual interests, read “Tempting Faith” by David Kuo. Pages 254-256 should be enlightening to all trolls. A big Thank You to Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver (post #30).
And if living in the public eye should prevent you from being scrutinized anymore than you declare yourself, why do WE here on the comments use fake names? Don’t feel too sorry for Rove, trolls; he’s personally created what has become of his reputation.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:36 pmWould you please come on my radio program and discuss some concerns I have about allegations that you sacrifice infants to the Owl God Molech? If you do not accept my invitation I will assume that you in fact DO sacrifice children and I will post it all over the internet.
Comment by mandolin — September 1, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
Well, it looks like you’re as craven a liar as Wallace, whose only use, by the way, is as Bill Clinton’s punching bag. Do you remember how Clinton destroyed that little punk? Moyers had several sources detailing Rove’s atheistic leanings, uncluding Rove’s own actions, which are in no way relective of a Christian upbringing or philosophy. So stop you’re pitiful whining and take your lumps. You idiots allowed this fat, blubbering atheist Nazi to take your party over and turn it into the biggest enemy America has faced since WW2, now suck it up and live with it, instead of trying to pass the blame off on someone else. Why can’t rightard Republicans accept any personal reponsibility for theri actions? Did you all stop emotionally and mentally developing at age 4?
September 1st, 2007 at 12:40 pmBecause Karl Rove wouldn’t come on Moyer’s show, Moyers thought it was OK to lie and call him an atheist?
Comment by mandolin — September 1, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
He didn’t call him an atheist, he called him a self-proclaimed agnostic and a hypocrite. This was based on statements made by Rove to others and based on his behavior while working for Bush.
Like yourself, Chris Wallace distorted reality for a political agenda.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:41 pmI still have not had a response from Mrs. Terkel. I think it is safe to go ahead with the story. Anonymous sources tell that AManda steals infants from the county hospital and takes them to the woods and sacrifices them to the dreaded Owl God. This story was further collaborated by the fact that she would not come on my radio show and discuss such allegations.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:43 pmBecause Karl Rove wouldn’t come on Moyer’s show, Moyers thought it was OK to lie and call him an atheist?
Comment by mandolin — September 1, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
Well, as I have already said, your own lies take any credilibilty you might have had away. Rove did not refuse to come on Moyer’s show; he refused to make any response whatsoever. In journalism, that means that Rove had no argument, so it is the truth. Moyers reported the truth, and you can’t take the truth. Nothing new for your morally bereft and corrupt party, but your crying and whining about it doesn’t change anything.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:45 pmI still have not had a response from Mrs. Terkel. I think it is safe to go ahead with the story. Anonymous sources tell that AManda steals infants from the county hospital and takes them to the woods and sacrifices them to the dreaded Owl God. This story was further collaborated by the fact that she would not come on my radio show and discuss such allegations.
Comment by mandolin — September 1, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
You don’t have a radio show. You can’t figure out how to turn a radio on. You look like an idiot with this childish palyground whining, and nobody cares what you think or say. If you want some credibility, ENLIST!
September 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pmThis just in. Amanda not only sacrifices babies, she eats them too. Disturbing reports indeed.And where is Mrs. Terkel you may ask? No one knows. She has refused to respond to such terrible charges. Further proof that are indeed facts.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:49 pm“If you want some credibility, ENLIST!”
Comment by ronjazz
Why does ronjazz hate the troops?
There’s a soldier in the field somewhere in Iraq who owes his life to the fact that mandolin strums his facist banjo at home.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:50 pmthat are indeed facts.
Comment by mandolin — September 1, 2007 @ 12:49 pm
My 4-year old niece has more sense than you.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:51 pmDemocrats are the party of retreat and defeat.
Comment by bilbobaggins
If you are going to name jack, please come up with something original. Sheesh…that was pathetic.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:51 pmMrs. Terkel,
September 1st, 2007 at 12:51 pmWhere were you the night Jon Benet Ramsey went missing? Please contact us lest we assume you are responsible for her disappearance.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 1, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
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Hey, just read anything from the rightards in the last few days. They know they’re done, they’re just playing out the string until elementary school starts up again.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:53 pm“In journalism, that means that Rove had no argument, so it is the truth.”
ronjazz
Only to hippies that fried their brains on LSD in the 70’s. Moyers may well fit into that group.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:55 pmWhere were you the night Jon Benet Ramsey went missing? Please contact us lest we assume you are responsible for her disappearance.
Comment by mandolin — September 1, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
and where should she contact you? should she drop by the abandoned car your mother left you to live in? Or should she check the airport men’s room, where you’re trying to earn quarters off Republican perverts? Let us know, as we want to make sure justice is done.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:55 pm“Presuming Moyers did contact Rove in a timely fashion and afford him an opportunity to respond, Rove’s alleged lack of response doesn’t justify Moyers blatantly gossiping about the man.
Comment by Man in the Middle”
Now that is just about the funniest thing I have read in a very long while. Moyers is gossiping about Rove because he said that Rove is a political hypocrite. The king of gossip and slander, Karl Rove, can’t be “gossiped” about. What blatant hypocracy that is.
If Chris Wallace really was interested in finding out the truth of Rove’s supposed religious commitment, he should have asked Rove to list the churches he has been affiliated with for the last 6 years. My bet is on the fact that Rove couldn’t do that, thereby proving that Rove is not a religious person and Moyers being right.
September 1st, 2007 at 12:58 pmOnly to hippies that fried their brains on LSD in the 70’s. Moyers may well fit into that group.
Comment by mandolin — September 1, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
Really? the most trusted and respected newsman in America was a hippy? Let me bet you your abandoned car-house that you haven’t a shred of evidence for that psychotic vision. and someday, when your meth shakes wear off, study a little about journalism. You obviously don’t even know the meaning of the word. ENLIST, coward!
September 1st, 2007 at 12:58 pmBy the way, mondolin, your boyfriend Craig has resigned, hounded out of office by Bill Moyers, I bet.
Moyers is a patriot. craig is a republican. There’s a big difference.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:00 pm” response doesn’t justify Moyers blatantly gossiping about the man.
Comment by Man in the Middleâ€
So Man, are you equally outraged at the gossiping about Democrats that goes on daily on Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh’s shows? Do any of those three “journalists” call their victims before they gossip about them? I think not.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:04 pmOne of the evils of public school indoctrination is your kids gain no moral skills.
Like “barfly.â€
Comment by anon
September 1st, 2007 at 1:04 pm————————————————-
Libs have a sliding scale for all morals. They can change them (situational ethics). What was immoral in the past is a virtue today.
Rove is not a Christian.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:07 pmHe has never stoned a homo or adulterer.
Ask a true Christian. They stoned people all the time it’s in the bible.
Fox News journalism — I believe that is an oxymoron.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:09 pmWallace threw his own father under the bus, which reveals his character. He is not a journalist, he is a shill for Fox.
Do these trolls even realize what a bunch of fools they are? They are attacking Moyers because he supposedly didn’t contact Rove for his side of the story, and yet they are supporters of the part of fear and smear.
Are they outraged that their right wing talking heads slander Democrats on a daily basis without contacting those Democrats for their side of the story?
You will never see Democrats responding with the kind of outrage that Faux is showing when they are slandered. Why? Because they know that the people who watch Faux Noise wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the face and they know that anyone with an ounce of intelligence will question those right wing talking heads as to their truthfulness.
Just like I won’t defend myself when a name jacker posts something using my moniker. I won’t dignify their childishness other than to ask them to come up with something better than “party of defeat” when they name jack my name. Come up with something original for gods sake. Make name jacking my moniker worth while.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:11 pmBecause Karl Rove wouldn’t come on Moyer’s show, Moyers thought it was OK to lie and call him an atheist?
Comment by mandolin
And you know that this is a lie how? Just because Rove says so?
Are you equally outraged at all the lies your right wing talking heads tell about Democrats on a daily basis? If not, you are the king of all hypocrites.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pmDemocrats are the party of retreat and defeat. - Comment by bilbobaggins
Hi… I’ Bilbobaggins - I don’t have the brains to actually engage in an intelligent conversation - that’s why I squawk the party line slogans that I have learned.
This journalism stuff is over my head. That stuff that TMP does, like actually checking facts rather than just repeating them, posting links to source documents, examining the facets of an issue, doing research and then giving an issue context - WAY OVER MY HEAD!
I am a good idiot parrot - Just like Fox news I understand that truth is what Fox says and a lie is what anybody else says.
I would open a dictionary and look up the word truth but I can’t remember the alphabet and all those notions just confuse my limited intellect.
I prefer to hang out and insult people cause it gives me a feeling of superiority… squawk - Cut and Run - see aren’t I great.
I would go over to the right wing blogs and give my thoughts there but they censor comments from Bill Moyers and anyway, like I said, I just can’t get my brain to make an intelligent argument.
So I am going to stay a stupid jerk ’cause showing respect to others by offering something that I actually came up with is too much work - so I hope you all enjoy my stupidity - all my party parrot buddies do. Cut and run.. liberal, liberal… party of defeat…. squak! squak…
September 1st, 2007 at 1:14 pmBill Moyers is a leech.
He has enriched himself at the public feed trough.
Greedy hypocrit Moyers.
He is a Chritian too doing the Lord’s work.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:16 pm“Libs have a sliding scale for all morals. They can change them (situational ethics). What was immoral in the past is a virtue today.”
Comment by Bob
And cons have squandered any claims to moral superiority, with their support for a bogus war of choice. They have also surrendered the “fiscal” mantle to liberals, as well as the right to be considered “religious.” They are either opportunistic rapists, or easily-frightened frightened sheep.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:16 pm“Bill Moyers is a leech.
He has enriched himself at the public feed trough.
Greedy hypocrit Moyers.
Comment by Bob “
There, I fixed it for you. But my favorite was:
He is a Chritian too doing the Lord’s work.
If he is a Christian (proper spelling) doing the Lord’s work, a lot of truly religious people out there will be sorely disappointed that their god would sanction the king of mean-spirited ugliness and hatred that came from Karl Rove. If I was a Christian and thought that my god sanctioned George Bush or Karl Rove, I would immediately become an Atheist.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:22 pm“king of mean-spirited ugliness and hatred”
Typo, should have been “kind”. But in its own weird way it makes sense with the typo.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:23 pmBill Moyers knows more about journalism than that Faux Noise asswipe, Chrissy Wallace. Chris should never badger a man who has more experience and intellect than him. Chris has disgraced his father and his family name by appearing on Faux Noise and as well as making a unnecessary mockery on real journalism.
Had Mr. Wallace appeared on Jon Stewart or The Colbert Report, he would have been laughed in and out of the studio for his clueless perceptions of reality, especially if he thinks Mr. Colbert is a republican.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pmmandolin -
You really think you nailed someone with straw man argument don’t you? You should probably hit up a critical thinking class down at Your Home Town CC before putting fingers to keys.
Sincerely,
September 1st, 2007 at 1:45 pmNoam Chomsky is often called anti-American because of his continuous criticism of our Foreign Policy. His critics like to point out the even more outrageous abuses of other countries, and ask why he doesn’t spend time on those. His response is that he loves America, of course, and it pains him when the country he loves acts in such a manner.
The issue here is similar. We need to question and challenge our (progressive) sources. It is this constant testing that gives progressives confidence in them. If Bill Moyers did a piece on Rove’s religion without inviting him to input or response, that was bad. That appears to be what happened. The funny answer given by the Moyers rep leads me to believe that they contacted Rove AFTER the piece was finished. I’m not a journalist, but that seems to be problematic.
PS the whole owl god thing is a red herring. It doesn’t appear the Bill Moyers was dis-ing religion, but Rove’s hypocracy.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pmLibs have a sliding scale for all morals. They can change them (situational ethics). What was immoral in the past is a virtue today.
Comment by Bob
Such as David Vitter, Diaper/Dildo prostitute client, and Larry Craig, the Lavatory Gay Sex guy??
The ones who accused Clinton of being immoral and a “bad, nasty boy”?
And PEDOPHILE Mark Foley???
These HYPOCRITES are the ULTIMATE “sliding scale” in “morals”.
September 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pmIf Bill Moyers did a piece on Rove’s religion without inviting him to input or response, that was bad. That appears to be what happened. The funny answer given by the Moyers rep leads me to believe that they contacted Rove AFTER the piece was finished. I’m not a journalist, but that seems to be problematic.
PS the whole owl god thing is a red herring. It doesn’t appear the Bill Moyers was dis-ing religion, but Rove’s hypocracy.
Comment by Phaedrus
The BIG word is “if”. IF Moyers didn’t call Rove BEFORE doing his piece, then you are right—bad!
However, IF Moyers didn’t contact Rove BEFORE doing his piece, wouldn’t Rove’s people be POINTING THIS OUT? One would think so.
The “if” and “appears to be” are the HALLMARKS of Rove, Rush, O’Dildo, etc.
RUMOR and INNUENDO.
So, until we know the “if” part, the “appears to be” is only INNUENDO.
I’m sure Moyers’ group could be contacted for their response, and unlike Rove, I’m sure they could respond, thus eliminating the “if”…
September 1st, 2007 at 2:03 pm“The problem is, moyers is a journalist, wallace is a noefacist stenographer.
Comment by bobwurst — September 1, 2007″
No, the problem is you liberals distorting the truth! Why does Rove have to appear on Moyer’s show? Moyers is as far left as anyone can go so why would Rove want to give him any credibility?
September 1st, 2007 at 2:06 pm“I’m sure they could respond, thus eliminating the “ifâ€â€¦
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
As I said in an earlier post, why should they? Moyer is a propagandist liberal and doesn’t deserve a response!
September 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pm“These HYPOCRITES are the ULTIMATE “sliding scale†in “moralsâ€.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
bill clinton
September 1st, 2007 at 2:10 pm“he refused to make any response whatsoever. In journalism, that means that Rove had no argument, so it is the truth.
Comment by ronjazz — September 1, 2007″
The truth? Maybe liberal journalism interprets no argument as the truth! How about no argument because Moyers is a third rate journalist?
September 1st, 2007 at 2:17 pmDoesn’t matter- the “we fount the WMD’s in Eye-Rack” crowd has heard it oncet and it is gospel- after all it was from foKKKs (fair and balanced) “news”. So like any good urban legend its’ out there, and their tiny, weak little minds have already slammed shut like a cheap little mousetrap.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:21 pmBesides, the foKKKs “news” crowd doesn’t want anything that might not validate their preconceived worldview, much less anything that may make them ( perish the THOUGHT!), think.
Just who was Mikes Journalism prof? Rove? And gave him an “a” for party loyalty.
September 1st, 2007 at 2:24 pmmichael -
Attacking PBS as liberal is tired. The entire country views PBS as the most fair and unbiased news source.
So when you don’t form a valid argument on the story, but choose to attack the messenger. You portray yourself as out of touch with the rest of America. Fringe.
Now I don’t know where you get your fringe view point on this, but if you post from a source that America views as a valid news organization, including Fox. I would be happy to have a debate with you. But if you’re just here to make yourself sound ignorant, well then, mission accomplished.
Sincerely,
September 1st, 2007 at 2:51 pmAs I said in an earlier post, why should they? Moyer is a propagandist liberal and doesn’t deserve a response!
Comment by michael
Moyers is a JOURNALIST, uses FACTS, and has CREDIBILITY.
Rove is a TRAITOR, PROPAGANDIST. and has NO CREDIBILITY.
Just like TRAITOR Bush…
September 1st, 2007 at 3:05 pm“These HYPOCRITES are the ULTIMATE “sliding scale†in “moralsâ€.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
bill clinton
Comment by michael
David Vitter, Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Tom Delay, “Jeff Gannon”, etc…
See, Clinton didn’t question THEIR morals, although they had NONE.
No, but THEY called Clinton “immoral”.
Again, HYPOCRITE AWARD goes to those Rapeublicans, plus TRAITORS Rove, Bush, Libby, Cheney, etc…
September 1st, 2007 at 3:12 pmTo mollify some, “it appears” that Moyers didn’t contact Rove or offer him the opportunity for rebuttal before he aired his piece. That is bad. We don’t need Rove, etc., to clear this up, Moyers group could do it just fine.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:17 pmTo mollify some, “it appears†that Moyers didn’t contact Rove or offer him the opportunity for rebuttal before he aired his piece. That is bad. We don’t need Rove, etc., to clear this up, Moyers group could do it just fine.
Comment by Phaedrus
I agree. Moyers’ office should be contacted. And I believe that you will find that he DID attempt to contact Rove BEFORE he wrote the article.
IF that is the case, then ROVE is the LIAR.
IF not, then it is Moyers.
Track records (journalist vs propagandist) suggest Moyers is correct.
We’ll see…
September 1st, 2007 at 3:24 pmi haven’t followed all the threads or the entire story. however, from what i have read, i believe that there is one point that has been missed.
if someone is a genuine christian, people should know. it should be obvious. their actions should speak for them.
if the people around rove say that he is not a christian, what does that say about the value he puts on his faith? while no one can judge the true state of one’s soul, actions are open for all to see. saying that you are a christian doesn’t make you a christian any more that saying that you are a car makes you a car.
September 1st, 2007 at 3:27 pmIf I was a real journalist like Moyers and I was called a “hack” by someone like Wallace and FOX news, I would not take it too seriously.
Kind of like being criticized for jay-walking by Al Capone….
September 1st, 2007 at 3:27 pm“Attacking PBS as liberal is tired. The entire country views PBS as the most fair and unbiased news source.
I would be happy to have a debate with you. But if you’re just here to make yourself sound ignorant, well then, mission accomplished.
Comment by ben — September 1, 2007″
The entire country? Ha ha ha ha ha! If Moyers is such a brilliant popular journalist, why is he not on a major network? PBS is NOT major! Debate me? I’m here, let’s get it on?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:39 pm“Rove is a TRAITOR, PROPAGANDIST. and has NO CREDIBILITY.
Just like TRAITOR Bush…
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007 ”
And if you could back up your rhetoric with facts some of us might be able to take you seriously! Until then I will assume you are just another uneducated public school liberal?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:41 pm“Again, HYPOCRITE AWARD goes to those Rapeublicans, plus TRAITORS Rove, Bush, Libby, Cheney, etc…
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
And again, the dunce award goes to you stupid public school liberals who continue to make ridiculous statements without backing them up with facts!
September 1st, 2007 at 3:44 pmNo sooner is Rove out of the White House when the liberal media are questioning his religious beliefs! What does a liberal know (or care) about religion? Didn’t you godless liberals learn anything from Ann Coulter’s book?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:46 pm“If I was a real journalist like Moyers and I was called a “hack†by someone like Wallace and FOX news, I would not take it too seriously.
Comment by sluggo — September 1, 2007″
Problem is, he’s not! Otherwise he wouldn’t be on useless PBS!
September 1st, 2007 at 3:48 pm“IF that is the case, then ROVE is the LIAR.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
Is that the type of logic they taught you in your public school journalism class?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:50 pm“saying that you are a christian doesn’t make you a christian any more that saying that you are a car makes you a car.
Comment by troep_post — September 1, 2007″
And your conclusion is?
September 1st, 2007 at 3:51 pmAnd if you could back up your rhetoric with facts some of us might be able to take you seriously! Until then I will assume you are just another uneducated public school liberal?
Comment by michael
1. The architect of the POLITICIZATION of the DOJ and ALL the rest of the government, as witnessed by Gonzo, Goodling, etc.
2. The PROPAGANDA master for Bush, including saying that the Democrats LOVE Al Queda. Actually, Bush and his Saudi MASTERS love Al Queda.
3. If he has NOTHING TO HIDE concerning the DOJ, missing emails (violation of the Hatch Act), etc., he needs to answer Congress’ SUBPOENA to TELL THE TRUTH. So far, he has NOT.
Many more FACTS, but enough to put this scumbag in jail, where he belongs.
September 1st, 2007 at 4:16 pm“Many more FACTS, but enough to put this scumbag in jail, where he belongs.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
You didn’t mention ONE fact in your post just wild liberal rhetoric!
September 1st, 2007 at 4:19 pm“saying that you are a christian doesn’t make you a christian any more that saying that you are a car makes you a car.
Comment by troep_post — September 1, 2007″
And your conclusion is?
Comment by michael
I AM a Christian, and follow the Word of Jesus, and also respect my fellow man, no matter WHAT religion they are, even atheist.
Rove and Bush have LIED us into war, and the BLOOD of a MILLION Iraqis and 4000 US soldiers is on THEIR HANDS.
Their ACTIONS show that they are NOT following the Word of Jesus.
ACTIONS (of LIES and Geoncide) speak louder than WORDS (of LIARS and MURDERERS Rove and Bush).
People who SAY they are “saved” by Jesus, but then LIE and MURDER their fellow man are NOT following His Word.
In the Bible, Jesus has said that he will tell their kind “depart from me. I KNOW YOU NOT”.
September 1st, 2007 at 4:22 pm“Many more FACTS, but enough to put this scumbag in jail, where he belongs.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
You didn’t mention ONE fact in your post just wild liberal rhetoric!
Comment by michael
Sorry, FACTS are FACTS are POSTED.
That YOU choose to DENY the FACTS tells all.
A TRAITOR to the USA, just like Bush, who puts PARTY above COUNTRY.
If you actually have any REAL POINTS, other than denying the TRUTH, tell us WHY (with FACTS) Moyers is NOT a REAL JOURNALIST,
and WHY Rove is NOT a PROPAGANDIST.
I’ll START:
1. Moyers has been a JOURNALIST for 50 years, has won MANY awards for JOURNALISM and uses FACTS for his stories.
2. Rove, the protege of Lee Atwater, MASTER PROPAGANDIST, got FIRED from Bush 41 campaign for his DIRTY TRICKS.
When Atwater was on his DEATH BED, dying of cancer, he RENOUNCED his EVIL DEEDS and asked Rove to promise to DO THE SAME.
Rove WOULD NOT. Therefore, he is the MASTER PROPAGANDIST of our time, and truly “Bush’s BRAIN”.
Got FACTS to support your points?
Or just rants and innuendos??
September 1st, 2007 at 4:28 pm“Rove and Bush have LIED us into war, and the BLOOD of a MILLION Iraqis and 4000 US soldiers is on THEIR HANDS.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
What lies did they concoct? Be specific? I don’t want the hear the tired old liberal crap that they lied about WMD. Because they didn’t! Everybody knew he had them. So tell us what they lied about? Blood of a million Iraqis? Where did you get that figure from? Where? Be specific?
September 1st, 2007 at 4:30 pm“Rove and Bush have LIED us into war, and the BLOOD of a MILLION Iraqis and 4000 US soldiers is on THEIR HANDS.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
What lies did they concoct? Be specific? I don’t want the hear the tired old liberal crap that they lied about WMD. Because they didn’t! Everybody knew he had them. So tell us what they lied about? Blood of a million Iraqis? Where did you get that figure from? Where? Be specific?
Comment by michael — September 1, 2007
WMD’s WERE LIED about.
After they got rid of Saddam, they would LEAVE in 6 MONTHS.
Bush REFUSES to let Rove TESTIFY UNDER OATH.
Bush REFUSES to TESTIFY UNDER OATH TO THE 9/11 Commission.
Bush COMMUTES the sentence of CONVICTED FELON Scooter Libby, who was one of SEVEN people to expose our CIA WMD spy, thus sabotaging NATIONAL SECURITY.
Pollster Frank Luntz told the Bushies to START EVERY SPEECH about Iraq with the words 9/11, thus LINKING THEM.
MAJOR PROPAGANDA!
Again, a START, and YOU can look up MANY MORE if you WANTED to.
Your DENIALS say you DON’T.
Again, you are just another ENEMY of the USA like Bush, Rove, Libby, etc.
I hope a PATRIOTIC US Soldier FRAGS Rove for his LIES.
Have a nice life, TRAITOR. Unless YOU repent, YOU will be BURNING FOR ETERNITY for supporting these MURDERERS.
September 1st, 2007 at 4:38 pmMy real journalism money is on Moyers. To hell with Faux Noise.
September 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pm“WMD’s WERE LIED about.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
By who? Who admitted to lying? Who was convicted of lying about WMD? Who?
September 1st, 2007 at 4:45 pm“To hell with Faux Noise.
Comment by olevet69 — September 1, 2007″
Why do you feel that way?
September 1st, 2007 at 4:46 pmBy the way gunnutes, where did you get the 1,000,000 figure from? You didn’t answer me in your last post.
September 1st, 2007 at 4:47 pmBy who? Who admitted to lying? Who was convicted of lying about WMD? Who?
Comment by michael — September 1, 2007
No one YET convicted.
When a Democratic president gets in, this WILL change once we have INVESTIGATIONS of Iraq and also Bush’s ties to the Bin Ladens.
And the Downing Street memorandum revealed 2 years ago showed that they KNEW the WMD’s were NOT there, and that
The US was FIXING INTELLIGENCE around the LIE that there WERE.
The memo (minutes of the Intel Meeting) are first on the list. READ:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/840
So, the BRITISH (in a SECRET intelligence meeting) says Bush LIED…
After THAT, any more DEATH resulting was the DIRECT RESULT of the LIES of TRAITOR Bush and the PNAC.
YOU will certainly dismiss the British Intel Report as “leftist” or some other BS, but then again, YOU and Bush and Rove and Libby and Cheney, etc., are TRAITORS to the USA.
And Bush and Rove do NOT follow the Word of Jesus Christ.
If YOU support their actions of LIES and WAR of AGGRESSION,
YOU don’t either…
September 1st, 2007 at 4:55 pmBill Oreilly, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh are leeches. They have enriched themselves at the public feed trough.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 1, 2007″
The difference between Moyers and them is people are willing to sponsor them, Moyers has to rely on taxpayers!
September 1st, 2007 at 4:59 pm“No one YET convicted.
When a Democratic president gets in, this WILL change once we have INVESTIGATIONS of Iraq and also Bush’s ties to the Bin Ladens.
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Oh, where did you get the 1,000,000 figure from?
September 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pmHere’s the real body count, you liberal dunce!
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
September 1st, 2007 at 5:09 pmFor the record, Michael is now on my ignore list, a la jake.
Also for the record, for people who appreciate FACTS and JOURNALISTS like Bill Moyers:
http://www.counterpunch.org/ferner05112007.html
The article cites Johns Hopkins University as its main source, along with the U.N.
The TITLE of the Article is: “ONE MILLION DEAD, TWO MILLION WOUNDED, 3 MILLION DISPLACED”,
And don’t bother about the “weak U.N.” BS. If Bush had truly gone for the SECOND resolution with the U.N. concerning Iraq,
they would have TURNED HIM DOWN.
So was born the “Coalition of The ‘Willing’”.
A WAR of AGGRESSION.
An ILLEGAL and CRIMINAL WAR.
And the Bin Ladens FUNDED Bush’s failed oil businesses (which he STILL profited from by ILLEGAL insider trading).
And Osama is STILL FREE.
And we are in a QUAGMIRE caused by TRAITOR Bush and his PNAC WAR CRIMINALS.
By the way, it’s FUNNY how “michael” doesn’t dispute the link to the Downing Street Minutes of the British Intel.
Nor does he/she/it dispute the REST of the Bush LIES I have posted with any kind of FACTS.
September 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pm“If Bush had truly gone for the SECOND resolution with the U.N. concerning Iraq,
Comment by Arn Gunnutes — September 1, 2007″
Second? There were already 12! Read # 107 above for a true body count. And that is no Bush friendly website!
September 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pmIt’s a riot that they think they have made some sort of point by showing they tried to contact Rove. Isn’t the point really that they never actually SPOKE to him, and therefore made unsubstantiated claims? Duh.
September 1st, 2007 at 5:42 pmwow. there are some seriously unhinged liberals on this board.
September 1st, 2007 at 5:44 pm“Isn’t the point really that they never actually SPOKE to him, and therefore made unsubstantiated claims? Duh.
Comment by Paul — September 1, 2007″
They’re liberals! That’s standard practice for them.
September 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmArn, buddy, get a grip. No matter how bad Rove et al might be, that doesn’t make you a better person. Could be time for a review of Luke 27-38.
September 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmLuke 6:27-38, that is.
September 1st, 2007 at 5:48 pmIsn’t the point really that they never actually SPOKE to him, and therefore made unsubstantiated claims? Duh.
Comment by Paul
Did they? PROVE it!!
Links?? FACTS??
Or just YOUR speculation?
Again, I believe a JOURNALIST like Moyers as opposed to PROPAGANDA like Rove or Fox “news”.
Duh…
September 1st, 2007 at 6:25 pmArn, buddy, get a grip. No matter how bad Rove et al might be, that doesn’t make you a better person. Could be time for a review of Luke 27-38.
Comment by Man in the Middle
I don’t CLAIM to be “better” because I am a CHRISTIAN (I AM a Christian).
It’s these HYPOCRITES like Diaper/Dildo Vitter, and Larry “bad, nasty boy” Craig who use their “christianity” to demean and defame others
by their “holier than thou” BS. As well as PROPAGANDISTS like Karl Rove and George Bush and Fox “news”.
They have USED God and Jesus as their method to advance their POLITICAL AGENDA and the
GENOCIDE that they have committed.
And as such have KILLED IN THE NAME OF GOD, the EXACT thing that they accuse the “muzzies” of doing.
And Bush was FUNDED by the Bin Ladens and is an OIL WHORBAG for the Saudi FINANCIERS of Al Queda in Iraq.
And Osama is STILL FREE.
As far as Luke 6:27-38, about PRAYING FOR ONE’S enemies, is THAT what the “christians” who support MURDERERS like Bush do?
NOPE.
But I DO.
It doesn’t make me BETTER.
It DOES say that Bush and his MURDERERS do NOT follow the Word of God NOR Jesus Christ. And their supporters…
ONE MILLION IRAQIS and 4000 US Soldiers, DEAD for the LIES of Bush and his PNAC TRAITORS…
September 1st, 2007 at 6:36 pmThe above story states that Moyers’ requests to have Rove come on his show came before Chris Wallace’s statements, but that is NOT the point.
Did political hack Moyers ASK Rove about his religion prior to publishing his smear piece about Rove?
Considering that Moyers has been so slow to respond to Chris Wallace, I suspect that Moyers has been looking for a way to weasel out of admitting he failed Journalism 101 by not asking Rove about his religion prior to publishing his smear piece, and is now trying to state that Rove ignored Moyers after he published it, which is irrelevent.
September 1st, 2007 at 7:57 pm#
Democrats are the party of retreat and defeat.
Comment by bilbobaggins
If you are going to name jack, please come up with something original. Sheesh…that was pathetic.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 1, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
There ya go asswipe!
September 1st, 2007 at 8:07 pmwtf is an episcopalian? - is it a ‘type’ of chistian? - in the same way as sunnis and shiites are ‘types’ of muslims?…..and who really cares what rove is? - atheist,christian,episco-whatever,he’s gone now
September 1st, 2007 at 8:47 pmThe corrupt right wing fascist propagandist corporate media…
…sought to confuse the American people with their spin…
…about Liberal-Progressives wanting to “reinstitute a fairness doctrine”…
…in msm…
…where Liberal-progressives consistently fail in debunking this fraudulent conned’selserving strawman position…
…is in NOT hammering home the fact that it’s not a FAIRNESS DOCTRINE we need…
…it’s a TRUTH DOCTRINE…
…if the pundits LIE on the people’s airwaves…
…they should be PUNISHED!
…Fox has made al iving off KNOWINGLY LYING to the al Cracker, DUHMERIKKKAN inbred Bushite base…
…Fox should be DESTROYED!
…and its administration and staff PROSECUTED for TREASON, LIES, and SLANDER….
September 1st, 2007 at 8:56 pmDo you think Wallace’s dad is proud of him? I’ll bet hr cringes every time
September 1st, 2007 at 9:16 pmC.W. opens his mouth. They shoul’ve kept what got thrown away!
The difference between Moyers and them is people are willing to sponsor them, Moyers has to rely on taxpayers!
Comment by michael — September 1, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
Hey MICHAEL 105,
September 1st, 2007 at 9:28 pmObviously you haven’t checked your facts. Seen Mr. Coulters site recently? The only one advertising on Mr. Coulters site is Mr. Coulter, selling his books. I forget what the last delusional hate comment he made, but it was apparently bizarre enough for her sponsors to pull out of her web site and quit Mr. coulter. You can have your own opinion, (do us a favor and keep it to yourself) but you can’t make up your own facts.
Did political hack Moyers ASK Rove about his religion prior to publishing his smear piece about Rove?
Seems like he TRIED to contact Rove to verify such, but Rove was too CHICKEN(hawk) to reply.
So, Moyers asked people who knew Rove WELL.
What they told him, admittedly CREDIBLE SOURCES, is that Rove was NOT a really strong believer, pretty much an agnostic.
Moyers is a COMPETENT JOURNALIST with YEARS of AWARDS for being a TOP JOURNALIST.
Wallace has NONE…
Rove is a PROPAGANDIST, and so is Wallace and Fox “news”.
I believe the TRUE JOURNALIST, Bill Moyers, and American PATRIOT!!!
USA! USA! USA!
September 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pmBill Moyers worked in Lyndon Johnson’s press office; and Chris Wallace is chastising him for not knowing Reporting 101?
What the hell has Chris Wallace done that was any good? For that matter, what has Karl Rove, or George Bush done that were any good?
Anybody?
September 1st, 2007 at 11:28 pmBill Moyers worked in Lyndon Johnson’s press office; and Chris Wallace is chastising him for not knowing Reporting 101?
What the hell has Chris Wallace done that was any good? For that matter, what has Karl Rove, or George Bush done that were any good?
Anybody?
Comment by chowderhead — September 1, 2007
Nothing. Not a damn thing…
All lies and TREASON, all the time…
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 amRove is not a Christian.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:17 amHe has never stoned a homo or adulterer.
Ask a true Christian. They stoned people all the time it’s in the bible.
Wallace is a good source of comedy. His idiotic commentary is predictable satire. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that he is just one pigment of Rover’s imagination. There are many colors of his trickery. Wallace has the IQ of a rock in comparison. Bill Moyer has a conscience and a drive for the truth. What does Wallace have other than a brown nose and loud mouth.
September 2nd, 2007 at 9:57 amRove is a christian like he quit to spend more time with his family
September 4th, 2007 at 1:25 am