Couric Admits Her Rosy Report From Iraq Is Based On ‘What The U.S. Military Wants Me To See’
Couric Admits Her Rosy Report From Iraq Is Based On ‘What The U.S. Military Wants Me To See’
CBS News anchor Katie Couric is currently reporting from Iraq. Today she spoke to Bob Schieffer on CBS’s Face the Nation and largely reiterated Gen. Petraeus’s talking points on Iraq.
She said that Petraeus believes there “really is a trend” of success on the security situation in Iraq and believes President Bush’s escalation “needs to continue.” She also recounted “signs of life that seem to be normal” at a market she visited, but then conceded that the positive aspects of her report are based on “what the U.S. military wants” her to see:
Well, I was surprised, you know, after I went to eastern Baghdad, I was taken to the Allawi market, which is near Haifa, which was the scene of that very bloody gun battle back in January. And, you know, this market seems to be thriving. And there were a lot of people out and about. A lot of family-owned businesses and vegetable stalls.
And so, you do see signs of life that seem to be normal. Of course, that’s what the U.S. military wants me to see, so you have to keep that in mind as well. But I think there are definitely areas where the situation is improving.
Watch it:
Rep. Ellen Tauscher (D-CA), who recently returned from Iraq and spoke with ThinkProgress, also admitted that it’s “very, very easy to be influenced, from their [the military’s] point of view, that things are better.” “I will tell you that when you get in the Green Zone, there is a physiological phenomenon I think called Green Zone fog,” said Tauscher. “It’s death by powerpoint. … It’s always that their argument is winning.”
Nonpartisan government reports dispute the Bush administration’s rosy claims of success. A leaked draft of an upcoming Government Accountability Office (GAO) analysis contradicts “the Bush administration’s conclusion in July that sectarian violence was decreasing as a result” of the surge. It concludes, “The average number of daily attacks against civilians remained about the same over the last six months; 25 in February versus 26 in July.”
Transcript:
SCHIEFFER: Did you get the sense that he [Gen. Petraeus] is going to tell the president that he believes these extra troops, the so-called surge, is working and that we have to leave it in place for a while?
COURIC: I definitely got that impression. I mean, I think he concedes there’s certainly areas of Iraq that are really difficult and are true trouble spots. Al Qaida in the north, Shiite militias in the south of Baghdad still a lot of insurgency and still a lot of sectarian violence even in Baghdad.
But I believe he thinks that these are not just pockets of success, what I mentioned about Fallujah and Ramadi, but it really is a trend. And he told me he thought the trend was definitely going up rather than down. And to continue the progress he believes that’s being made here so far that the surge must continue and U.S. — a full U.S. presence should be here.
But he did talk about geometry on the battlefield, Bob, and about possibly drawing down some troops. But he thinks that certainly in these areas where the surge was needed, that it needs to continue.
SCHIEFFER: So he says there is the possibility that some troops may be drawn down. Katie, what are your impressions after being there on the scene? We’ve all followed this for years from afar but once you’re there, anything surprise you in particular?
COURIC: Well, I was surprised, you know, after I went to eastern Baghdad, I was taken to the Allawi market, which is near Haifa, which was the scene of that very bloody gun battle back in January. And, you know, this market seems to be thriving. And there were a lot of people out and about. A lot of family-owned businesses and vegetable stalls.
And so, you do see signs of life that seem to be normal. Of course, that’s what the U.S. military wants me to see, so you have to keep that in mind as well. But I think there are definitely areas where the situation is improving.
But everyone agrees, Bob, that if these people, the people of Iraq, do not get basic services like electricity, like running water, it will be impossible to win their hearts and minds and have them fully support the national unity government or anything that’s going on here.
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In other words, she has just admitted her “rosy report” is a lie and that it is based on propaganda - and this passes as news in the MSM?
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmCouric :: Journalism
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 pmBee :: Windshield
Maybe she is trying to overshadow her mini-me, Dana Perino, because she is jealous that Dana got the Chief WH feces tossing job and not her.
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 pmKatie, you’re making Walter Cronkite sooooo proud right now.
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September 2nd, 2007 at 12:38 pmAnother possibility is that she sees the end coming at CBS and is auditioning for the Faux Entertainment channel, showing that she can suck the WH teat as well as any of those other hacks.
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 pmYes, too bad Katie and the other visiting dignitaries don’t speak the local language. If they could, they’d get a chance to better gage the real time experiences of the common Iraqi people. Instead, we are fed images that comport to our TV prejudice - if we see it on TV, it must be true. Even her description of the market place is two-deminsional, merely a collage of people watching with no real time cultural engagement.
Who knows, maybe to help process the pain the U.S. occupation has caused them they are making rude and malicious jokes about their American visitors. Who knows, maybe the vendors in the marketplace are traders by day, and sectarian murderers at night.
I applaud Katie C. for being there, but I don’t think her reporting will offer us any more enlightenment as to why this president decided to go into Iraq in the first place and then begin the process of nation-building when he had proffessed for so long that he didn’t believe in nation-building.
I hope Katie can be as open as she can. By openly stating she only is being given the images supplied by the Bush team, she is on the right path of journalism. Let’s hope she can maintain this journalistic endeavor to bring us a better sampling of the carnage in Iraq so we can better weigh and measure the bullshit coming from this WH. -Kevo
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 pmDid she buy a ‘rug’ in the market like senators Liberman,Graham and McCain, when she went browsing?!
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:46 pmWell, since it is going so good another basis for bringing our men and women home NOW !
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 pmAt least Couric is aware that she’s not seeing everything. After all, since we know that civilian deaths have doubled since last year, those incidents of violence must be taking place somewhere. That “somewhere” is not a place the U.S. military wants to show visiting reporters and dignitaries or even acknowledge to exist.
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 pmWhat. A. Twit.
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 pmThe fact that Couric is willing to openly admit that what she saw was what they wanted her to see is a major event. How many other journalists have been willing to make that statement (Answer: NONE). Basically, she called out the military on their lies. Whether you like Couric or not, that’s a gutsy thing to do.
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:58 pmKatie Couric is just another partisan from the msm.
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:59 pmKatie, you’re such a whore!
September 2nd, 2007 at 12:59 pmFox News attacked CBS rival and single mother Katie Couric for her trip to Iraq. But while Neil Cavuto, John Gibson and the gang at Fox grew hysterical about Couric leaving her children alone, they remained silent about 26 year old Michelle Ring and other single mothers fighting - and dying - for the United States in Iraq.
For the details, see:
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:02 pm“Fox News Attacks Couric Trip While Single Mother Soldiers Die in Iraq.”
This http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ypa75axdK6o
posted last night on TP is what I believe.
We illegally invaded/slaughtered an innocent country, kept it a living hell for 4 years as we did not allow the Iraqi people rebuild as they wanted and now it is polite conversation of how we are going to continue this living hell while our treasury is being robbed…
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 pmUmm… it goes without saying that journalists escorted by the military will only see the things that they are shown.
Only Proglibs find this “newsworthy.”
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 pmOnly Proglibs find this “newsworthy.â€
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 2, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
And only idiot trolls think that their judgment on what is “newsworthy” is, um, comment worthy. No one gives a sh!t what you think, Mr Pee.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:07 pmAs a former military public affairs officer I can GUARANTEE you that journalists see and hear what the military want them to see. I’m not saying our military is lying, it’s just a super positive spin. Go to that same market like the locals do, day after day, without armed guards, to see what its really like. McCain lost my vote when he pulled that PR stunt trip into Bagdad with all the armor, escorts, etc. then tried to convince us how safe the place is.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pmWow!
Now I know why Zooey has been light on posting here.
Great job, keep it up.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pmI read ThinkProgress for informed discussion of events. What need is there to call her a whore or a twit, or any other name? She may not be a Murrow in the field of reporting, but she actually traveled to Iraq, which is important for journalists to do. As others have commented, she admitted that she was seeing only what the military was allowing her to see and it is important that people who see her reports know that. She is highlighting Iraq in the news, unlike Fox which seems to be burying it. Good for her and for her full disclosure.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:12 pmThe Pentagon pays top dollar for its smoke and mirrors. Thank you, thank you very much.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:15 pm#16- at the risk of wasting time responding to a silly troll, here goes-
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:19 pmdid you shower before waking up to Mom’s cereal and loving embrace after spending last night crouching in the urinal of the local truck-stop mens’ room, getting blissfully whizzed on all night by those big, burly trucker mens’es?
Mommy likes you clean before ya’ll make love and then she drives you from the trailer park to the li-berry to “post”- and get figuratively whizzed on by the posters, here.
PS- remember, the posessive is-’ “your” and not “you’re”. Wouldn’t want you to skip the first clue that you and all of the other CONTURD trolls are illiterate.
Comment by Not Canadian — September 2, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
Thanks!! It’s a group effort, check us out anytime. :)
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:23 pmThink about the fact that these people are afraid everyday to go to the market and suddenly they find out that there is going to be a high level visit. That is the day I would want to go to the market, wouldn’t you?
So I am sure that when these visitor’s show up, people that haven’t gone to the market in weeks suddenly show up buy two weeks worth of goods to last until the next heavily guarded visitor shows up.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:27 pmHuh?
Pointing to Fallujah and Ramadi to suggest the surge is working is disingenuous, don’t ya think Katie? The surge was to secure Baghdad. Both of the former were pre-surge battles.
I’m sure the market that she points to as “normal” probably looked just that right up until it blew up in January. A snapshot in time doesn’t exactly give the full picture, but it sure helps if your goal is to simply catapult the propaganda.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmI read ThinkProgress for informed discussion of events. What need is there to call her a whore or a twit, or any other name? She may not be a Murrow in the field of reporting, but she actually traveled to Iraq, which is important for journalists to do. As others have commented, she admitted that she was seeing only what the military was allowing her to see and it is important that people who see her reports know that. She is highlighting Iraq in the news, unlike Fox which seems to be burying it. Good for her and for her full disclosure.
Comment by Nik — September 2, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
I agree that there’s no need to slander her, but if you had to sum up her report in a single sentence, what would it be? “The surge is working” or “I can’t truly give an accurate report on the surge because the military will only let me see what it wants me to see”? It seems to me that the latter was merely a footnote in her otherwise glowing report.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:32 pmIf you were her, what would you report to the American public/ taxpayers?
Unfortunately, MSM reporters are lazy. For years, they got away with reporting whatever the Generals, or administration said and just assumed their credentials were to be unquestionable.
Newsflash… We are now questioning their credentials.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:34 pmI’m with Nik @ #20! If you wish to make unintelligible, snarking comments, go to another thread. Name calling only diminishes this small d exercise. Please try to keep your posts substantive, as I too look to these threads to get a plurality of thought and idea, not to score points by denigrating others who are not around to defend themselves. -Kevo
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:34 pmRomney senior, who was an honest man, said that when you go to Vietnam they brainwash you. This time he was going to find out what really is going on. This got him labeled as the “brainwashed candidate” and helped do in his candidacy.
In Iraq it’s deja vu all over again. The same kind of brainwashing that helped keep that war going much longer than it should is working again.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:37 pmComment by AVGVSTVS — September 2, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
And only idiot trolls think that their judgment on what is “newsworthy†is, um, comment worthy. No one gives a sh!t what you think, Mr Pee.
Comment by gummitch — September 2, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
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Wow. You just sat there waiting for me to make a comment, didn’t you?
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:39 pmAnother Bush war whore… “We’ve come a long ways…” Unfortunately, some of these corporate media “liberated women” are backsliding into supporting oi-nazi fascist imperial neo-colonial aggression by the Bush gangsters against the Iraqi people.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmUmm… it goes without saying that journalists escorted by the military will only see the things that they are shown.
Only Proglibs find this “newsworthy.â€
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 2, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
No, “Augustus”. The problem, so far, is that it has been going without being said that the journalists, Members of Congress, and other official visitors have only seen what the military wants them to see. And they have been coming back from these highly-chaperoned visits with nothing but glowing testimonials to the “progress” being made. If liberals (I assume that your derogatory term refers just to us) are the only ones who find this admission “newsworthy”, it’s because conservatives do not undestand what the nature and purpose of journalism is supposed to be about. Journalism is about finding out the objective truth, not simply reporting what each side has to say and letting uninformed viewers decide who is telling the truth. Often times, one of the two sides is lying, and viewers (and readers) have no way to know which side is lying without someone pointing out the objective truth.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:46 pmAt least she isn’t as clueless as Brian Baird.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pmFor everyone who’s condemning Katie as a neocon apologist, remember, she didn’t have to add the part about her only seeing what the military wants her to see at all.
And for everyone who’s condemning Katie for not placing more stress on her seeing only what the military wanted her to see, remember that if she had placed any more emphasis on that fact, we might not have heard her report at all.
I’m not trying to defend Katie here, but remember, our media is controlled by this administration. We were lucky to hear this much dissent.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pmI think it would be usefull to watch Ms. Couric’s reporting, and then disect what was said, and how it was said. I’m sure the blogs will be up to the task.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pmThe evening news is 30 minutes long…ten of it commercials. To get to the heart of the matter in few words and pictures is difficult…perhaps impossible. under these circumstances, a false impression is easy leave. We’ll see how carefull Ms. Couric is with her words.
I think it would be usefull to watch Ms. Couric’s reporting, and then disect what was said, and how it was said.
Comment by Badger — September 2, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
I think it would be usefull to watch Ms. Couric’s reporting, and then bore my brain out with an auger bit.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmWow. You just sat there waiting for me to make a comment, didn’t you?
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 2, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
Yeah, because it’s all about you, Mr Pee.
What a maroon.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmwhat else could be expected from a woman who gave a three hour hate monger the first free speech segment on her show?
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmWestmoreland painted a prettier picture than reality as well…the difference, he wasn’t doing it because the administration required it. He got fired because, as bad as Johnson was, he was seeking the truth on the ground. The crime family hates reality and wants a general who can fanticize just like they do. Petraeus is not as honorable as they would have you believe. He is not smarter than those who were fired for telling the administration something they do not want to hear, he is just a little more dishonest when it comes to seeking notoriety. I don’t trust any lying general.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmBartlebee….Millions of American’s shape their political opinions from watching the evening news. Do you really think a Critical look at what and how theydo what they do is a waste of time?
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmWhen are these idiots going to learn that anecdotes aren’t evidence? The actual statistics don’t back up the claims that there’s progress being made. That you can walk into a street market wearing body armor in a heavily armed group doesn’t mean anything.
I can’t even comprehend a world where this is accepted logic.
Imagine you’ve got cancer that’s spread to 90% of your body. But your doctor tells you progress is being made because it hasn’t reached your pinky toe.
You get into a car accident that requires serious repairs. You come back into the shop 2 weeks later to find your car is still wrecked. But the mechanic says he’s made progress because he’s put air in the tires.
If you transposed the so called “progress” being made in Iraq into a situation most people had to deal with in their everyday life, 100% of them would be screaming in anger over the lies and incompetence.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pmI think it would be usefull to watch Ms. Couric’s reporting, and then bore my brain out with an auger bit.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 2, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
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Go for it!
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pmNo Badger.
I just think that listening to Katie “Navy Seals are Cool” Couric for more than 3 minutes requires an immediate cranial evacuation.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmBeating oneself about the head and shoulders with a heavy, blunt opject can sometimes work in less extreme cases of Couric-exposure.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmThe general is carrying water for Dubya and the crime family. We need people who are honest like those that the crime family fired.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmWell, DUH!!
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 pmOf course, technically speaking, just the act of listening to Katie “Navy Seals are Cool†Couric for more than 3 minutes, constitutes a complete cranial evacuation.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmNow you know why they call her “the scoop”.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmAt first, as I watched the video of the scenes in the market, I was struck by how it looked like the only “customers” the street vendors had were American soldiers.
As for this “progress” argument for allowing the carnage to continue, it’s a false one. “Progress” means the accomplishments of the benchmarks in total, not just some steps along the way. They were supposed to form a government and work to solve the problems. They have formed a government, but seem unable to work out how to solve their problems, and may never do so! If a benchmark requires that A, B, and C be accomplished, and “A” and “B” are easily done, that does not translate into “progress”. Especially if “C” is something that would never happen in another seven hundred years of infighting. The goal is the completion of the benchmarks, not just the interim steps to get there.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:06 pmThe evening news is 30 minutes long…ten of it commercials. To get to the heart of the matter in few words and pictures is difficult…perhaps impossible. under these circumstances, a false impression is easy leave. We’ll see how carefull Ms. Couric is with her words.
Comment by Badger
With no disrespect to anyone here; the absolute last place one should get their news or information is from the likes of the Evening News - or any other MSM outlet. It’s just that simple. Corporate ownership has not allowed an opposing viewpoint to establish itself. That is why the Daily Show and Olberman are becoming popular - they at least attempt to get at the truth and provide perspective.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:08 pmThere is progress Wayne.
If you’re an insurgent.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmOf course if you’re a neocon bootlicker, like AVGVSTVS, then you can listen to Couric without requiring a cranial evacuation, since theres nothing in their craniums to evacuate.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 pmI applaud the fact that Katie Couric is mentioning her awareness that she isn’t seeing everything. But her comments go no further than that. Hopefully, she will be aggressively (and on her own) seeking individuals to interview in Iraq from the government and the civil society in general who can give her the full spectrum of the situation and not just those who are provided to her. If anyone watches TV from Europe, like the English BBC or French TV5, they will see news reports of almost daily, massive demonstrations in Baghdad against the continuing U.S. presence. And they will see the rampant violence that continues to plaque that poor country.
But I condemn the fact that Couric is going to Iraq now. Why now? I see this as part of next week’s coming public relations “surge” ahead of the Petraeus report and Katie Couric and the corporate media are part of that PR surge.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:16 pmFox news took care of that for them a long time ago.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:16 pmFor example…and slightly off topic..I recently read an analysis of the Mark Foley incident. The everning news reporter made the solemn sounding comment that ” the republican’s lost support in the 2006 election because of what Mark Foley did. Actually, the republicans lost support because of what the Republicans did…by covering up Foley’s long record that THEY were aware of.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:17 pmI think any time we can discover and point out such simplistic inaccuracies is a good thing.
There is progress Wayne.
If you’re an insurgent.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 2, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
That depends on what the goals of the insurgents are. If it’s the departure of American troops, then they have not made progress. We’re still there, and if Bush has his way, we always will be.
As for the goal of the actual terrorists, if it’s world domination, then they can’t report any meaningful progress either. But if the goal is to bring down our country by fometing dissent from within, they might think they’re making progress, but that’s because they don’t understand our culture and society. I believe that they view us through the prism of their own culture and wonder why we allow so many of the thigns we allow.
On a side note, making the Middle East safe and secure just so we could get at the oil would not be the priority it is now if we had listened 30 ot 40 years ago and tried to wean our nation off of such a dependence on oil. Jimmy carter had solar panels put up on the roof of the White House. One of Reagan’s first orders was to take them down (and, symbolically, continue our dependence on foreign oil)
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:17 pmOf course if you’re a neocon bootlicker, like AVGVSTVS, then you can listen to Couric without requiring a cranial evacuation, since theres nothing in their craniums to evacuate.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 2, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
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I put the TV on mute if I see Couric. But I don’t watch much TV.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:20 pmI predict that down the road, almost all of the newscasters of today who did not step up, speak out and report truth to power, will be replaced.
Once the secrets and crimes of the Bush administration are called to account for, and Bush’s cronies are in jail, and the facts are all laid out, the talking head reporters who did the administrations bidding and shyed away from the obvious corruption in going to Iraq, spying on Americans, the Haliburton rip off and profitteering, etc, will be ridiculed and even despised for their inability to do their jobs, and report truth, and not the lies of power.
Katie Couric will be lucky if they let her report the weather in Pocatello once the truth comes out. As well the rest of them.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:21 pmCBS is so much better since it shucked those Pesky Dan’s (Schorr & Rather). No more of that pesky investigative reporting!
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:21 pm“For everyone who’s condemning Katie as a neocon apologist, remember, she didn’t have to add the part about her only seeing what the military wants her to see at all.”
O.K. she’s less bad than the FOX “reporters,” but she’s still bad. What can you expect from a “reporter” who put Limpy on as a guest commentator on her first show.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:21 pmBut I condemn the fact that Couric is going to Iraq now. Why now? I see this as part of next week’s coming public relations “surge†ahead of the Petraeus report and Katie Couric and the corporate media are part of that PR surge.
Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver
Agreed. Its all show and tell. Nothing of substance. We are getting manipulated and very few seem to notice. Everything this administration does - with a complicit MSM - is designed and built to deceive. After all this time of all these pundits being wrong, why on earth do we still allow them into our homes? I was sick and tired of being lied to at the beginning, but it still keeps on trucking. Why? I don’t know. Maybe Americans like being lied to, sigh…
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:21 pmI put the TV on mute if I see Couric. But I don’t watch much TV.
Comment by AUCRUSTUS — September 2, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
I’m sorry.
You must have confused me with someone that gives a shit what you do.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:22 pmTom said:
“With no disrespect to anyone here; the absolute last place one should get their news or information is from the likes of the Evening News - or any other MSM outlet. It’s just that simple. Corporate ownership has not allowed an opposing viewpoint to establish itself. That is why the Daily Show and Olberman are becoming popular - they at least attempt to get at the truth and provide perspective.”
I agree completely, Tom. But what I don’t understand is why the corporate goal of returning the most value to their shareholders allows people like Glenn Beck and Tucker Carlson to keep their shows, despite dismal ratings. In fact, Newsweek, Time, and the Washington Post can’t sign up former Bush speechwriters and neocons fast enough as columnists.
Are they just ignorant of what the population would rather watch/read, or do corporate profits take a back seat to political gamesmanship?
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:23 pmKatie,,,,, don’t you know that to listen to the people THERE in IRAQ and repeat the ROSY predictions is wrong….
What you should be doing is repeating the PESSIMIST predictions of REID and PELOSI….
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:23 pmThese 2 are the obvious EXPERTS on the situation.
Petite body frame and even more petite credibility
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:26 pmWhat you should be doing is repeating the PESSIMIST predictions of REID and PELOSI….
Comment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
Yea, it sure is “pessism” to accurately describe what is going on..
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:26 pm“Are they just ignorant of what the population would rather watch/read, or do corporate profits take a back seat to political gamesmanship?”
Keeping the Republicans in power is great for corporate profits. Keeping low rated right wing talking heads on the air is an investment in keeping the Republicans in power.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmAre they just ignorant of what the population would rather watch/read, or do corporate profits take a back seat to political gamesmanship?
Comment by wmholt
Excellent question. The shareholders must be getting some return - or they would be out of business. I dunno. For guys like Murdoch - who has tons of money - maybe financial losses are secondary to getting their philosophy out into the mainstream. Sort of like when a new product comes out, and they give it a way for free to generate a market.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmKeeping low rated right wing talking heads on the air is an investment in keeping the Republicans in power.
Comment by CaptainVideo
I think the Captain correctly answered your question wmholt.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 pmI say we let KATIE go to NEW ORLEANS and have our GREAT mayor RAY NAGIN show her all the wonderful things in HIS city and all the PROGRESS going on there….
He will have to make sure and not take her to the DANGEROUS parts of his city. Just the places HE PICKS.
After all RAY would not want to HURT the sensiblities of a lovely (non-chocolate) journalist…
Now that is some propaganda we can all get behind.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:28 pm“I predict that down the road, almost all of the newscasters of today who did not step up, speak out and report truth to power, will be replaced.”
Not as long as virtually all the broadcast media is controlled by a small number of corporate conglomorates. These people will be touted as the experts on the next controversial thing the Republicans want to do, like attack Iran.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:30 pmWondering if Katie will change her tune on her return. She has a family to think of: and being left to wander the streets of Iraq looking for the real story, might not encourage her safe return.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:31 pm“We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime”
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=78188
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:32 pmSend DAN RATHER instead,,,,
He can slip some $ to a few terrorists ahead of time and then get LIVE coverage of the terrible situation going on…
Of course Dan would not consider it faked as it would support his prearranged conclusion
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:32 pmCaptainVideo sez:
Don’t misunderstand…I’m not holding up Katie as a model of journalistic integrity…she’s a card-carrying administration water-carrier. But with that comment, she managed to punch a small hole in one of her buckets…a hole that was large enough to be noticed, but not so large as to warrant pulling her report entirely.
It’s a feeble gesture, but it’s still better than nothing at all.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:33 pmOK Little lady let’s assume there is a progress. How long it will last? How long these level of troops will stay there to keep up these progress? Are we rich enough to keep the burden? Who will govern Iraq? You do not ask these questions, do you? All you want to know is what these general-politicos want to tell you
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:34 pm“We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtimeâ€
Comment by NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL — September 2, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
If we do, then China and Russia will be hitting us back.
Big time.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:34 pmDon’t misunderstand…I’m not holding up Katie as a model of journalistic integrity…
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 2, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
I’d be willing to hold Katie up with my mustache, but thats as far as I’d go.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:36 pmwhy is IRAQ such a bad place but NEW ORLEANS under LIBTARD control “just needs more $”…
% the deaths are equal…. and NEW ORLEANS has been sucking $ from us for over a hundred years,,,, IRAQ just 4.
Ray Nagin says NEW ORLEANS is for CHOCOLATES,,
MALIKI did not say BAGHDAD is for SANDIES (not yet)
I suggest we withdraw out of NEW ORLEANS immediattly (over 100 years of help is enough) and then we only have 96 years in IRAQ to go…
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:38 pmI’d be willing to hold Katie up with my mustache, but thats as far as I’d go.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Good one Bart - LOL…
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 pm> Umm… it goes without saying that journalists
> escorted by the military only see what their shown…
right.. the surge is working so well, yet still there is NOWHERE in non-kurdish iraq that doesnt require a few fully army military sightseeing helicopters as an escort.
it also goes without saying that saddam had nothing to do with 9-11 (even chimpy admitted this), and that we found no viable, recently made WMD in Iraq,,yet there are almost half of the population who beleive both these falsities… so just because something “goes without saying” doesnt mean its obvious to people like you..
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 pm“Of course Dan would not consider it faked as it would support his prearranged conclusion”
O.K. Rather fell for a Karl Rove dirty trick and believed that the fake memo Rove or his minions had sent out in the hope that some reporter would fall for it, use it, and thereby would be discredited. He got lazy and careless and failed to see that this was an obvious fake. Rather was old enough to remember that typewriters, with only very rare exceptions, did not use proportional spacing. The proportional spacing should have raised all kinds of flags if Rather had been paying attention. Another victiom of Karl Rove dirty tricks.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 pmUh, New Orleans is part of the United States nimrod.
Iraq is not.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:40 pm“why is IRAQ such a bad place but NEW ORLEANS under LIBTARD control “just needs more $”
New Orleans is part of the United States and therefore the responsibility of the U.S. government.
Iraq is on the other side of the world and the U.S. has no business being there.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:41 pmKatie is a coward,,,, this is a puff piece
Visiting IRAQ and not NEW ORLEANS…
Anybody that wants to see the REAL action would know where to go.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:42 pmCouric is a Main Stream Media Call Girl. A highly paid whore with a gift for talking out of both sides of her mouth without moving her lips. I hope she gets what she deserves in the end for selling out America. But what the heck, she’s just getting in line. Everyone in a position of power these days is seeing how much they can amass before the golden goose of democracy is pronounced dead.
Ironically, the end game will be the same for everyone; an ugly struggle for survival. The only difference will be those who at the moment are the”Haves” will be the last people standing and their fate will be the more protracted. So be it, we all make choices.
petulantgemini
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:43 pmIts amazing we have to point out to the mook that New Orleans is part of the United States.
:|
Our schools are failing.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:43 pm>I suggest we withdraw out of NEW ORLEANS immediattly
>Comment by scooter
Uhm, I have one question about what you said.. how can a country withdraw from itself?
other than that, what are you trying to say? Are you trying to say that Iraq is in some way similar to New Orleans?
Or are you saying something signifigantly less retarded that I’m not understanding?
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:44 pm“Send DAN RATHER instead,,,,
He can slip some $ to a few terrorists ahead of time and then get LIVE coverage of the terrible situation going on…”
Comment by scooter —
Hey, it worked (at least for a while) for me. I armed terrorists, and today conservatives cry crocodile tears for all the dead that I’m responsible for.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:45 pmI suggest we send scooter to New Orleans, and they can use his mouth for a ballast pump.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 pmI suggest we send scooter to New Orleans, and they can use his mouth for a ballast pump.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
He was a good mouthpiece for Cheney!
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:48 pm> I suggest we send scooter to New Orleans,
F#ck that, send me to New Orleans. We can take up a collection to send this D1psh1t to Iraq while we’re at it…
pass around the plate ladies….
Shakey-Jake will be collecting contributions from his paypal account…such a hip 75 year old dude…
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:48 pmNew Orleans is a LIBTARD run cesspool,,,,
The predictions on this city are much ROSIER than they should be (people want to see the bright side). To claim they just need $ is a RUSE as bad as that in IRAQ.
FUNNY THING,,,, using rosy predictions in CRAP HOLES we want to see do well.
It is however a part of the US…. But should’nt be.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:49 pmWe should pull out now. (
NEW ORLEANS is a crap hole no better than IRAQ and we should CEDE it back to FRANCE…..
Let the pessimism rule…. (you do know FRANCE once owned it)
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmNew Orleans is a LIBTARD run cesspool,,,,
Comment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
ahh back w/ the silly little cheap shots eh, squeak?
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:52 pmWhat is the difference between NEW ORLEANS and BAGHDAD?
A. the weather
B. chocolate vs. sandy
c. nothing (NEW ORLEANS is however considered part of the US,,, unfortunatly)
ANSWER,,,, all of the above… and CEDE the city back to FRANCE
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:55 pm“New Orleans is a LIBTARD run cesspool,,,,”
Unlike Miami, the main ‘CON drug-smuggler/illegal alien port of entry…
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:56 pmCheap shots with NEW ORLEANS….. HMMMMM
Oh i get it,,,,, IRAQ’s are not cheap shots,,,,, but NEW ORLEANS are …… YEAHHHH
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmHEY barfly,,,
When was the last time MIAMI voted in a CONSERVATIVE in anything…?
YEP
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:59 pm#
Cheap shots with NEW ORLEANS….. HMMMMM
Oh i get it,,,,, IRAQ’s are not cheap shots,,,,, but NEW ORLEANS are …… YEAHHHH
Comment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
no, you still don’t get it.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmJeezuz. Between the two of them, Couric and Tauscher possess the intellect of a hamster.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:01 pmB. chocolate vs. sandy
Comment by cooter — September 2, 2007 @ 2:55 pm
And there you have it folks.
Behold the inbred racist dirtbag, in all its dirtbag glory.
THIS is the character of the right wing scum that trolls the liberal blogs.
Racist, nazi scum.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmI must admit that RAY NAGIN has much fewer security guards than MALIKI,,,,
RAY freaked out when he could not get his own POLICE to protect him from his city.. but has lately gotten much better about this….
HEY thats progress RIGHT….
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmComment by CaptainVideo:
“…O.K. Rather fell for a Karl Rove dirty trick and believed that the fake memo Rove or his minions had sent out in the hope that some reporter would fall for it, use it, and thereby would be discredited. …”
________________
And the right wingers who trash Dan Rather seem to selectively forget what Lt. Colonel Killian’s own secretary said. Marian Carr Knox looked at the Killiam Memos given to Dan Rather and said they were not genuine and not the memos she typed. BUT, she said that they contained exactly the same information on George Bush that she remembers typing regarding George Bush’s preferential treatment in the Guard. She also stated that Lt. Col. Killian was very upset with George Bush when he refused to obey an order to present himself for a physical examination.
http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2004/ 09/ 15/ 60II/ main643768.shtml
And the order permanently suspending George Bush from flying is a real document. No one has tried to debunk this official Texas Air National Guard document that suspended George Bush from flying.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:05 pmhttp://www.glcq.com/docs/(72-09-05)flight_status_order.pdf
George Bush disobeyed a direct order in a time of war.
Progress will be when we’re pissing on your headstone, scooter.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:05 pmReally good propaganda makes no apologies. The big lie and all that. Why? Bcause people tend to believe what they want to believe. Most Americans are stupid hicks. Stupid hicks want to believe eye-rack is a noble adventure. Katy Couric needs to watch more Fox News. On Fox, they make no apologies. They just come right out and say it: “Listen you stupid hicks, eye-rack is a brilliant example of American moral justice. Believe it you stupid hicks.”
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:07 pmALP I get it…
we rip on IRAQ as a hell hole (which it is) because this hurts REPUBLICANS.
we don’t rip on NEW ORLEANS as a hell hole (which it is) because this hurts DEMOCRATS.
funny thing,,, both sides say they just need $ and time.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:07 pmYeah i get it….
I like the way they keep saying the surge is working and they need to continue it. sheesh, if it really worked, they could say the surge worked and now we have to get the troops out of there. Nope it hasnt worked so they need to keep the troops there to continue to try and get it to work.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 pmSo much for dog and pony shows, what the administration needs is a good traveling circus.
And while the insurgents are all busy eating cotton-candy, and applauding the exploding clown-cars, we can slip our troops in, and get the whole bunch in one fell swoop.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:15 pmI should not compare the IRAQ’S to NEW ORLEANS….
It is really mean to the IRAQ’S as they have only had 4 years and APPEAR to actually want to succeed.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:16 pmKatie is soo cute and perky in her little camos.
Any cute and perky news in a war zone?
Katie is to news as Dan “fake but accurate” Rather is to truth.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:19 pmBarfly,,,, can we also send the circus act to NEW ORLEANS. Or should we just give up there,,, too.?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:19 pmDoes anyone understand the new troll’s Iraq-vs-New-Orleans babble?
I sense it’s trying to communicate something, I am just not quite sure what it’s trying to say. Assuming, of course, there is actually a message that is worth understanding.
On topic, I thought it obvious that reporters in Iraq only get to see what the military want them to see. I guess it isn’t for a lot of people. I wonder if FauxNews will again try to demean Couric.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmDid CBS need to put the woman in peril for her to tell us something we’ve known all along. Why not just let Fox send their people over to ship the crap back to us. Hell if something bad happens to them they will be doing the job that their management and editors want them to do then there will be no big loss.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmAnd some on this thread make very effective administration clowns.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmIt seems to me, squeak. you’re trying to blame the “LIBTARDS” for both?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:24 pm# 69
Ouch that would be very interesting.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmIf clowning is your goal, that is.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmHey scooter- we note how you’re covering for your butt bud Bush, who actually is responsible for the flooding of New Orleans, (he cut the ACOE budget to less than one fourth, stopped work on the canal side levees so he could cover tax breaks for his rich buddies) and who wants $200 Billion for Iraq (which he has to borrow from the Commies), but still continues to ignore New Orleans. Only failures cover for failures.
tell us, who is paying you to troll here?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmSo i’m racist for repeating what the mayor of NEW ORLEANS said his own city should stay,,,, “chocolate”
The president of IRAQ MALIKI,,,, deserves an apology from me as he has not said his city BAGHDAD should stay “sandy”
I apologize.
I said this to widen YOUR eyes to CRAP HOLE situations HERE…. and how OPTIMISM (when it has no reason) is currently being used by LIBTARDS to help NEW ORLEANS come back. (come back to a bigger crap hole than it currently is)…
LIBTARDS do this,,, to try and protect the LIB politicians there….
So,,, crap hole A,,, BAD crap hole B,,, GOOD
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmKatie is to news as Dan “fake but accurate†Rather is to truth.
Comment by Bob
That would be “Ronald Reagan is to patriotism what George Bush is to truth.”
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:27 pmHey those are some good ideas.
How about from now on, whenever the administration gives a press conference, lets have them pull up in one of those little cars, and they’ll all be stuffed in there, and come piling out, with their big floppy feet and their red rubber noses, and stumble up to the podium, honking their buggyhorns.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:27 pmweekend@cbsnews.com
evening@cbsnews.com
couricandco@cbs.com
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:30 pm“So,,, crap hole A,,, BAD crap hole B,,, GOOD”
Comment by scooter
Crap hole A, wastes 2 bil. a week. Crap hole B, no dead servicemen put there for lies.
A has car bombs and many poor. B has many poor.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:32 pmKatie seen any cute IEDs?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmI agree barfly.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmGregor samsa
IRAQ is a worthless crap hole,,,, so is NEW ORLEANS
They both have been this way for over a hundred years.
Both also claim they just need $ and time.
NOW,,, knowing this
In IRAQ it’s useless to try and help them set up a GOVT.
In NEW ORLEANS DITTO!
LIBTARDS rip on the BUSH administration for trying in IRAQ.
They say there is no hope and PROGRESS cannot be made.
LIBTARDS however think NEW ORLEANS can somehow be saved (as long as a LIBTARD is running the show).
Thus progress in NEW ORLEANS,,, with $ time whatever,,,
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmand failure in IRAQ with the same.
Surely Ms. Couric noted the troops stationed with arms ready at intervals of about six feet. It is hard to imagine that this is the norm.
CVould it be just another Mccain style photo-op?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmThrow money at it like Dems do to failed public schools:)
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:36 pm“… and come piling out, with their big floppy feet and their red rubber noses, and stumble up to the podium, honking their buggyhorns.”
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Soaked in blood, dragging each other around in high-stress positions, with a charming group of trained attack-dogs chasing them, and adding to the hilarity…
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:37 pmalp,,,
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmI don’t BLAME libtards for both,,, I blame libtards for belittling PROGRESS in IRAQ and then (thinking) NEW ORLEANS PROGRESS is REAL.
It is ALL just polite conversation… keep the masses content while We the People and the rights of others are trashed.
Proof Bush Sr. is for New World Order:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CWBTL33MpA
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmNew Orleans is run by corrupt Dems has been for decades.
Everyone knows that:)even Dems.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmProtect Katie at all cost, She is a mommy.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmComment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Iraq = A foreign country, not the US
New Orleans = City in Louisiana, a state of the US. Not a foreign country.
I hope that clarifies the situation for you.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pm“Throw money at it like Dems do to failed public schools:)”
Comment by Bob —
And how are those faith-based programs working for improving education? Any successes?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmhow OPTIMISM (when it has no reason) is currently being used by LIBTARDS to help NEW ORLEANS come back. (come back to a bigger crap hole than it currently is)…
Comment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
So here you’re saying that a US City, New Orleans, a major US city of half a million people that is host to numerous arts and cultural festivals, home of Tulane University one of the most respected colleges in the world, a city that has the largest busiest port system in the WORLD, not to mention a 5 and a half billion dollar toursism industry, is just a throwaway?
Amazing.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmI know that.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:41 pmDoes anyone now wonder why these morons bankrupt the country both economically and morally in just 7 short years?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:41 pm100% successful from lib brainwashing:)
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:41 pmBarfly,,,
We have a lot more $ and YEARS to go in IRAQ failure if we ever want to get it up to NEW ORLEANS standards.
As for the DEATHS…. I guess your only concerned with GI’s and not GANG BANGERs,,, (good),,,
You also need to ignore PHILADELPHIA and TRENTON.
As for the CAR bombs,,,, Your right about that,,, the IRAQ’S appear much more intelligent then NEW ORLEANS
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:43 pmAmazing.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 2, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Also, last time I checked, New Orleans wasn’t asking the US federal government to leave them alone. Quite the contrary.
Iraqis have been overwhelmingly in favor of a withdrawal of US troops.
Not to mention Iraq is (or it’s supposed to be) a sovereign nation.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 pmFARTLEBEE
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 pmrelax man everything is fine Your morals are still where you left them.
Please hand on to them as we do not need them at this time - thanks.
IRAQ is a worthless crap hole,,,, so is NEW ORLEANS
Comment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Listen to the pig.
A famous American city world renown for its arts and quisine, home to a world class world famous univsersity, home to the worlds largest and busiest seaport, home to a 5 and half BILLION dollar tourist industry, is to a a right winger, a “worthless peice of crap”.
This is going to make next November so much easier.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 pm“I don’t BLAME libtards for both,,, I blame libtards for belittling PROGRESS in IRAQ and then (thinking) NEW ORLEANS PROGRESS is REAL.”
Comment by scooter
Now we’re descending to the absurd. Please, post a comment from this thread that corroborates this assertion, or apologize for trying to distract the thread with irrelevance. You won’t find anyone here stating what you’ve just claimed.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:45 pmAs for the CAR bombs,,,, Your right about that,,, the IRAQ’S appear much more intelligent then NEW ORLEANS
Comment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Yea. Those Tulane folks….. what dolts huh?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:46 pmWhat our right wing friend scooter, is of course trying to say, is the black are inferior to the whites.
Just in case anyones unclear.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:47 pmalp,,,
I don’t BLAME libtards for both,,, I blame libtards for belittling PROGRESS in IRAQ and then (thinking) NEW ORLEANS PROGRESS is REAL.
Comment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Belittling what Progress in Iraq? and celebrating(my word) what progress in N.O.?
I don’t see any true signs of progress in either location.
It’s already been pointed out to you why N.O. is different than Iraq.
Does the f*ckin’ word “homeland” ring a bell? probably not, oh well.
don’t stop believing, squeak. it seems to be your cornerstone.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmNew Orleans will come out ahead regardless of government aid because the people are independent and strong. Government is not their saviour like the Dems want.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:48 pmBARTLE
So your saying that the basket of civilization, the cradle of humanity, the country of IRAQ, with a proud history (more than we have here) and a huge PORT in BASRA,,, also has universities (debatable as to whether they are better or worse than TULANE), lots of JIHADI tourists from other countries is just a THROWAWAY?
Considering the way both of these locals are run by THIER leaders ,,,, YEP
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmI don’t BLAME libtards for both,,, I blame libtards for belittling PROGRESS in IRAQ
Comment by scooter
Just curious, I want to hear in your words what progress in Iraq is… I fear I already know the answer, but maybe if you post it, you will see how ugly it is.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pm“Does anyone now wonder why these morons bankrupt the country both economically and morally in just 7 short years?”
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Not with the circus-clown Right. The question really is what kept it all from imploding sooner, given the incompetence.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmWhat he means are US cities with large Black populations, are “worthless peices of crap”, the crap of course being a reference to the indigenous black population.
The Iraqi’s are a little higher on his list because they are not quite so black. They’re “sandy”, and therefore he doesn’t call them ni$$ers. They’re just them “sand-ni$$ers”, and therefore worth trying to save. After all, put a suit and tie on em, and we can make them look like a white man, with a suntan.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:50 pmWhat our right wing friend scooter, is of course trying to say, is the black are inferior to the whites.
Just in case anyones unclear.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:50 pm———————————————
a little rabble rouser aren’t u Bart the fart:)
I would like Katie to ask the Moslems she encounters what they would like to do about the Jew, Christian, Athiest, etc. problem.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmhey gregor
Crap holes in this country BY LAW must be seen to have progress,,,
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmCrap holes in another country we are trying to help BY YOUR LAW must be seen to have no progress
“Government is not their saviour like the Dems want.”
Comment by Bob
I really feel sorry for someone this politically myopic.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:52 pmSo your saying that the basket of civilization, the cradle of humanity, the country of IRAQ, with a proud history (more than we have here) and a huge PORT in BASRA,,, also has universities (debatable as to whether they are better or worse than TULANE), lots of JIHADI tourists from other countries is just a THROWAWAY?
Comment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
No asswipe.
You said New Orleans was a ‘worthless peice of crap’.
I corrected you.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:52 pmEconomy is humming along which is good news.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:52 pmIt will slow down at some point. Economy is cyclic by nature.
Not good or bad.
a little rabble rouser aren’t u Bart the fart:)
Comment by Bob — September 2, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
the rabble rousingist.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:53 pmComment by scooter — September 2, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
For your own sake, join your local AA.
That might work wonders on your ability to string two thoughts together, and your overall cognitive process.
As it is, you make very little sense.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:54 pmI’ll let the GENERAL there ON LOCATION tell us if HE believes there is PROGRESS,,,, anything i could tell you here either way would be crap,,,, (kinda like what a lot of you are spewing)
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:54 pm“So your saying that the basket of civilization, the cradle of humanity, the country of IRAQ, with a proud history (more than we have here) and a huge PORT in BASRA,,, also has universities (debatable as to whether they are better or worse than TULANE), lots of JIHADI tourists from other countries is just a THROWAWAY?
Considering the way both of these locals are run by THIER leaders ,,,, YEP”
Comment by scooter
Have you heard what happened to these universities after the invasion?
They were looted.
Was Tulane looted after the flooding?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:55 pm“Government is not their saviour like the Dems want.â€
Comment by Slob
And its not their tormenter, like the repugs want.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:55 pm“Economy is humming along which is good news.
It will slow down at some point. Economy is cyclic by nature.
Not good or bad.”
Comment by Bob
Bob’s pretty desperate to avoid talking about Iraq.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 pmas for my racist comments on CHOCOLATE and SANDY
Please help me get some VANILLA,,,, just tell me which vanilla (libtard run of course) city to include here…
PS,,, i’m not the one ripping the progress of the SANDIES now am I,,, Does that make you a RACIST?
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:57 pmWhat our right wing friend scooter, is of course trying to say, is the black are inferior to the whites.
Just in case anyones unclear.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I thought those ignorant moron unbearably stupid types faded with Archie Bunker… Guess that gene pool still thrives.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:59 pm“SANDIES”
Comment by scooter —
Red State translation: Sand N*ggers.
Next up: ragheads and Hajis.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmBankrupt is a hot buzz word for the Libtards. No such thing for US economy right now. Now morals yea L.A. CA is porno capital of the US followed by NY.
We abort innocent children 40+million so far. Yea there are moral problems here.
Hugh Hefner, Larry Flynnt and Jerry Springer are all big supporters of the Dem party. Libtards do no give their donations/money back.
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:00 pm