Bush makes surprise visit to Iraq.
Bush makes surprise visit to Iraq.
“President Bush made a surprise visit to Iraq on Monday, using the war zone as a backdrop to argue his case that the buildup of U.S. troops is helping stabilizing the nation.” On his way to the APEC summit in Australia, Bush made a detour to Iraq, landing at an air base in a remote part of Anbar province. Accompanied by security aides Condoleezza Rice, Robert Gates, and Stephen Hadley, Bush’s visit came just hours after British forces completed their pullout from Basra. “Residents of Basra cheered the withdrawal.”
UPDATE: “The president stopped at a small building where a Marine Cobra pilot briefed him about the positives and negatives of current troop rotations. He told the president that troops were not getting enough time at home and did not have enough time for training. ‘Morale?’ asked Bush. ‘How’s morale?’ ‘Very high sir,’ the pilot, Capt. Lee Hemming, said.” ”There are some people who might try to deride this trip as a photo opportunity,” White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino said. ”We wholeheartedly disagree.”
Clearly, this is a last resort tactic on Bush’s part. He’s hoping that his visit will spin more positive propaganda regarding the “progress”(hah!) in Iraq. Nothing he does these days matters one iota to the american people. He’s become a cipher.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:02 amThe White House also showed how much they cared about our city when he this press release was issued
Thank you. Good afternoon. On Monday, President Bush will leave Washington and travel to Sidney, Australia, to attend the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation leaders meeting
…
But it will be the first time that he will have the opportunity to enjoy the hospitality of Sidney-siders
The embarrassing misspelling of Sydney was quickly corrected when Australian Reporters pointed it out, but Not everywhere got the memo.
Good Grief!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:02 amHi Badger!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:04 amDid you see the huge “wall” they have to built because of the level of hatred for Bush in Sydney?
As an american I find that utterly embarrassing that there is so much hatred for the leader of our country; of course, he’s earned it quite handily both internationally and nationally.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:04 amWhat moron is writing Bush’s press releases these days? Obviously, it’s one of his teenage proteges who have less sense than brains.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:05 amhttp://www.villagevoice.com/ news/ 0735,hentoff,77643,6.html
Off topic but news that Bush’s ‘war crimes’ will not go unnoticed. Evidently, the international war crimes tribunal is setting the stage for a Nuremberg-esque trial of Bush & Co.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:09 amGood morning veritas..yeah I saw pictures of the Wall. It will probably cost John Howard his reelection…..that and the Iraq war.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:09 amJust picking up a $5 rug for Jenna’s baby shower…er, “engagement present.”
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:10 amBut will Maliki visit him ????????? in the remote airbase
Sawt al-Iraq reports in Arabic that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has pledged not to allow Iraq to become a base for regional or international powers to settle scores. (This announcement seems to me to be an attempt to forewarn the Bush administration that it may not use Iraq as a base for an attack on Iran).
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 amOK him and what army? Which army gonna fight this fight that noone gives a crap about?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 amI believe that after her recent performance at a pageant, Miss Teen South Carolina has all the qualities George W. Bush needs in a new spokesperson. Such as her compassion for The Iraq.
-GSD
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:12 amWOOO HOOO!! Yippee ki-a, M F . . .
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:13 amTobey, that definately means Nouri Al Maliki is through. He will be removed one way or another.
I predict a helicopter crash.
-GSD
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:13 amUK prof. credits Iran’s N-activities
A British professor stressed that Iran’s nuclear program is perfectly lawful and in accordance with international rules and measures.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 amThe president’s brief visit to Iraq suggests just how large the White House’s latest marketing campaign will be. He will now be able to offer his own personal “eye witness†accounts of progress there. But from a psychological perspective, the warmongering ahead will likely continue to focus on the American public’s core concerns about issues of vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. I examine how the Bush administration has employed this strategy in brief online video entitled “Resisting the Drums of War.†It’s available for viewing HERE.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 amBritish forces have completed their withdrawal from the southern city of Basra and handed over their city center base to the Iraqi army.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 amSilence, over time, becomes “complicity”. Most of Congress now is also complicit in the allowance of war crimes by this administration. Certainly the Republican Congress which preceeded this one is! As for the people whose voices have been effectively squelched by the Patriot Act, only time will reflect how much “culpability” the rest of the world will hold american citizens to in all of this. Certainly, we’ve all been outraged by the people who sat back while Hitler committed his crimes….not that much different from that which we are permitted by our silence right now….and have been for 6 long years.
History will certainly judge the Republican party harshly for “enabling” this behavior and may also judge this generation of americans in the same vein - lest we wake up and begin to do something about it.
Certainly our Congressmen need a huge boot in the arss right now to awaken them and/or removal from office for their continued complicity in the destruction of not only our constitution but international law regarding war crimes. This will come back to haunt the members of Congress over the past 6 years as they each will be held accountable for their vote to enable the torture and violation of international law as well. I believe we will also see the day when this entire administration will be placed on trial, ala Nuremberg style, and convicted. This will be a sad day in american history - a travesty actually - but the larger travesty is that we’ve all sat lazily back and knowingly permitted it.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:15 amI predict a helicopter crash.
-GSD
and I predict a car crash in a Paris under pass
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:15 amIf this isn’t a sell job. Republicans think everything is marketable, even war.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:16 amThe Deserter is finally in a war zone
The Chimp might as well stayed in Crawford as worthless as he is.
I wonder how many of our young troops got killed or mained with Doofus’s worthless stop over?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:16 amHi Badger - yes, the Aussies are outraged that their lifestyle has been compromised by his appearance there and the level of security necessary for the safety of perhaps the most repulsive individual on planet earth.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:16 amI think that Dumbo needs to don some camos and finally complete his military record right now.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:17 amBush touched down a thousand miles from Baghdad
Look at this map where Bush landed
http://www.iraqslogger.com/ images_full_column/ googlemap2.jpg
the media are trying to mislead you into thinking he went to baghdad
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:18 am#19 Bush going to Iraq is definitely pulling out all stops since this is the last place on earth he’d desire to be. You KNOW they’re desperate with this transparent tactic.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:18 amLede story from CNN.com:
“The White House said the base was chosen because of the “remarkable turnaround” in the province. Bush has hailed Anbar — a Sunni province west of Baghdad — as a success, citing the U.S. military’s alliance with tribal leaders in fighting al Qaeda in Iraq . . . In 2003, Bush made a surprise visit to U.S. forces in Iraq on Thanksgiving.”
GO BUSH!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:19 amTobey: Thanks for the link. Of course, this whuss wouldn’t go into Baghdad. What a joke if they think they will really pull this charade off. Why didn’t he just “stage it” in some studio in LA, for cripes sake?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:19 amHe’ll send our children there to their doom and destruction - yet he doesn’t have the balls to land there himself. What a whimp.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 amWhat if a coup attempts to remove Malaki, the ELECTED head of the Govt., and he appeals to neighboring Iran for help.??
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 amWe might see a preview of things to come in Basra soon, as rival Shiite militias fight it out for control of Iraq’s second largest city.
It is also interesting that when it comes to LABOR issues, and in this case Labor Day, the President runs for cover in Iraq. To be propped up by the pawns he has created through the Pentagon.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 amBEST PRESIDENT EVER!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:21 amSELECTIVE STAGING is precisely what Bush’s trip is. Sorry Dumbo - the people are onto you - big time. The people are buying none of this hard sell campaign so his trip is totally in vain.
Bush’s Iraq Visit = HUGE PIMP JOB ON THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:21 amI see that our little worm-troll has added a very appropriate “D” to his moniker - “D” for ddddddddddddouchebag perhaps?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:22 amBehind the scenes, says Gulf News, the Bush administration is putting pressure on PM Nuri al-Maliki to cancel the proposed visit of Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad to Baghdad. The Bahraini newspaper’s Iraq sources told it that the Iraqi government is split on the visit. If you attend closely to the subsequent comments, you can clearly see that the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council of Abdul Aziz al-Hakim favors the visit (SIIC is also Bush’s best friend in Iraq), and the Sunni Arab bloc, the Iraqi Accord Front, has the most severe reservations.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:22 am“Bush made a detour to Iraq, landing at an air base in a remote part of Anbar province.”
So presumably he’s going to point to the progress in the unhabited regions of Iraq. Genius.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:23 amAnyone else NOT on the “Ignore List” for obvious personal attacks and/or refusing to answer my questions?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:23 amYou know it’s “troll detritus” when there’s nothing more than cheerleading - nothing of substance CAN be added to the post since there’s nothing of substance which any Repuke can speak about these days.
Wonder which Repuke will be this weeks’ news? I think it’s the one who left threatening messages to residents who wrote something unflattering about him taking money from the gaming industry….he left two threatening messages and will probably be the next “Repulsive Repuke” scandal.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:25 amA US ally emerging to take helm of Iraq’s largest Shi’ite party
http://www.boston.com/ news/ world/ middleeast/ articles/ 2007/ 09/ 02/ a_us_ally_emerging_to_take_helm_of_iraqs_largest_shiite_party/
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:25 amJAKE D
BEST PRESIDENT EVER?????
FOR WHAT>?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:25 amCNN is reporting that Bush WILL meet with the Iraqi Prime Minister.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 amBush has hailed Anbar — a Sunni province west of Baghdad — as a success, citing the U.S. military’s alliance with tribal leaders in fighting al Qaeda in Iraq
Jake..these are the same tribal leaders who were fighting US last year. Just sayin…
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 amHaving failed Katrina victums with his neck craning out Airforce !, I can see him choosing his Mission Accomplished flight suit for this mission.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 amHeck of a job, bushie.
THIS IS IT! http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_6781394
Here’s this week’s latest Repulsive Repuke scandal! Doug Lamborn from Colorado would be the next one booted.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:28 amhawk:
I detailed that already on another thread: http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 09/ 01/ rove-bush-leader/ #comments
Long story short, history will be the judge but if there’s ever democracy in the Middle East, it will be credited to Bush — also, appointing Roberts / Alito to the Supreme Court, by itself, raises Bush above every Democratic President in history ; )
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:28 amTwo questions: (1) Does this count as combat experience for little dick? (2) When little dick is out of the country, is Dick the acting President?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:29 amJake D
CNN is reporting that Bush WILL meet with the Iraqi Prime Minister.
http://edition.cnn.com/
where on CNN is that then , Bush will hardly fly over Ramadi or Falluja to see Maliki and I doubt Maliki will visit him……… look how far apert they are Bush could not find a place closer to Jordon to land
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:31 amhttp://www.iraqslogger.com/ images_full_column/ googlemap2.jpg
“Anyone else NOT on the “Ignore List†for obvious personal attacks and/or refusing to answer my questions?
Comment by Jake D.”
1- you haven’t asked any questions yet you moron.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:31 am2-you can’t respond to me because I’m on your ignore list.
3-”For the record,” you are on everyone else’s ignore list.
White House imploding?? Certainly looks like it since they all know they’re going next….three down/three to go.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2007/ 09/ 02/ white-house-wracked-with-_n_62872.html
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:31 am#43 - In your dreams, moron! ahahahahahah! I think you mean the polar opposite. That’s okay - your dislexic and we all know it. Such good comedy for a monday morning though Jake D. Comic relief is something we all can count on that fool for.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:33 amJAKE D
I see you have learned how to “SPIN” and spew out misinfomation like a die-heart repub.
congrads–you-all are a dying breed.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:34 amBobwurst: Don’t waste your breath. This infantile imbecile doesn’t have anything noteworthy to say. He posts here under about a hundred different names but his inimitable “style” of discourse is obvious to us all. He erroneously believes that he’s fooling people; conversely, the people all feel very sorry for him with his profound degree of mental illness and recognize that he has an airhead full of nonsense, blather, and typical troll drivel.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:35 amYou asked the question, hawk. I answered. I am also a registered Independent, but a patriotic American first.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:36 amHawk: You said it all - The reptards as well as their spineless sycophantic trolls HAVE BECOME extinct - they are so mentally compromised that they don’t have the insight to realize that they’re actually “gone” right now.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 amFor the record, I have only posted here under ONE name. Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you though ; )
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 amLong story short, history will be the judge but if there’s ever democracy in the Middle East, it will be credited to Bush — also, appointing Roberts / Alito to the Supreme Court, by itself, raises Bush above every Democratic President in history ; )
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 9:28 am
Only in his ability to destrpy the Republican party will he be above any Dem president. he will be thanked by generations of Americans for finally, in his greed and incompetence, exposing the GOP as the antiAmericam, closet-dwelling, traitor-ridden crime cabal we on the Left always knew it was. that will be his greatest, nay, his only, accomplishment of a positive nature for the history books. this country will be returned to its liberal ways if it is to survive, if Bush hasn’t already raped and pillaged beyong repair. Bush has failed at everything a president should be and do, and will be remembered as a stain on the Constitution; Bill Clinton, even now, has the respect of the historians for doing the job right. Bush will never have that, never.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:40 amPoof! Like magic - the Reputards in Congress, one by one, will be brought down by their own criminal behavior. Any individual left still supporting the Party of Criminals will find that they’ve become totally irrelevant to the new policical landscape of this country. This is why the trolls here are beginning to look so disassociated from reality with nothing credible to spin any longer. Their “heroes” like Rove, Rummy, and Gonzo have screwed them by leaving the sinking ship. It can’t feel too warm and fuzzy to realize that anyone with a brain left in their head is jumping ship and leaving Dodge. The trolls, however, are pretty far down the food chain as well as the brainchain so it will take them some time to realize that they’ve become totally eclipsed.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:40 amFor anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” there’s a newer, resolute-Bush thread: http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 09/ 03/ bushs-hope-for-successor-stay-longer-in-iraq/ #comments
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:40 amJake D(ouchbag) IS Jake IS Mr. Pee as well as all of the other monikers he chooses in his schizophrenic and psychotic breaks with reality.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:41 amI guess this morontroll actually thinks that any of us will investigate the threads he alludes to?? Ewwwwww…I wouldn’t touch anything this slimeball says with a ten foot poll. No one cares what he has to say here in the first place but to presume that anyone would believe that he has anything at all to say by furnishing his links is the epitome of egomania.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:42 amTo a Repub;
Being “PATRIOTIC’ is buying a “bumper sticker”
ENLIST!!!!!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:43 amHooray, the US has negotiated with Al Anbar terrorists(Now we call them tribal shiekhs) and has rewarded them with money and weapons!
Hooray to General Petraeus for setting the table for more blowback!
-GSD
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:43 am#15,
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:43 amOf course, I agree entirely with your comments, and, I would add that so many of us have countered the Bush Adm. claims, assertions and actions, but to little or no avail. The beat goes on - and as we protest, we stand by watching them, and our leaders on both sides, continue these doomed policies.
Long story short, history will be the judge but if there’s ever democracy in the Middle East, it will be credited to Bush — also, appointing Roberts / Alito to the Supreme Court, by itself, raises Bush above every Democratic President in history ; ) -Jason Hendler
Big IF their Jason. If there is ever democracy in Iraq. Bush plans on dumping his 6 month war, turned into a 5 year quagmire in the next Presidents lap. Ergo he couldn’t possibly be credited with Democracy in Iraq.
Nominating a couple of federalists to the supreme court isn’t worthy of a mention.
What about Afghanistan? What about Kim Jong building a nuke? What aboout the deficit? What happened to smaller govt?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:44 amBreaking News:
George W. Bush arrested in Iraq for toe-tapping and hand swiping under a stall in Al Anbar province.
-GSD
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:44 amLet’s get back to Bush and his Magical Mystery Tour to Iraq, shall we?
Why is he going NOW? Answer: Do the math! He’s finally achieving the level of “transparency” to which he referred early in his presidency - although I don’t believe he was spinning it this way. He’s become a transparent fool.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:44 amA resolute-Bush thread! The same Bush that deserted his unit during the Viet Nam war?The same Buish that ran away on 9/11? The same Bush that allowed 9/11 to happen? What’s he resolute about, being the world’s bigest loser, or being the world’s most hated retard?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! resolute, the cowboy afraid of horses. That’s too funny, thanks for the laughs, Jake P. You poor thing, stuck with that idiot Bush.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:44 amGSD: Good one! Nothing wrong with your synaptic activity this morn!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:44 amMorning, Marie! Good to see you. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Did you hear though about the 911 strike and protest? It’s nationwide and gathering great steam. Go to http://www.911strike.com and check it out.
The people are waking up and protesting everything Bush.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:46 amhawk:
As I told you, I am not a “REPUB”. I am an Army vet, though. How about you?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:46 amFor the record: Three down and three to go! Now there’s a congressional investigation into CondiCandi. Once she goes down, then impeachment of Cheney and Bush will be a foregone conclusion (it probably is right now).
Three down/Three to Go - Good riddance to Gonzo, Rove, and Rummy (architects of torture and war)…..now it’s time to remove Condi, Cheney and Bush (leaders of the torture brigade).
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 amFor the record: “[Bush] plans to eat dinner with U.S. troops and to meet face-to-face with top military commanders, the U.S. ambassador, Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and provincial tribal leaders.” http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ POLITICS/ 09/ 03/ bush.iraq/ index.html
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 am“Yippee ki-a, M F . . .
Comment by Jake D.”
How appropo of Jake, convicted plaigarist of a real veteran’s bio, to choose a cheesy line from a macho preeening movie whose star is a right wing chickenhawk who pretendt to be tough.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:49 amToo bad Nancy Pelosi took impeachment OFF THE TABLE!!! LOL
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:49 amWith the international war crimes tribunal becoming activated, thanks to the Red Cross findings today, I think the wheels of impeachment are moving. In fact, this scathing report deals with the “complicity factor” which congress will face if they fail to bring these criminals to justice. They, too, may be held accountable by this tribunal.
Go to Post #6 for the link - it’s happening and not a moment too soon!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:50 amhttp://www.villagevoice.com/ news/ 0735,hentoff,77643,6.html
Check this out! This is signifcant news and is probably the reason for the implosion at the white house.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:52 amAfterward, Bush was to meet with Sunni tribal leaders whose cooperation has made Anbar Province, a former al-Qaeda stronghold, significantly safer during the past year.
what no Maliki visit Jade D(unce) is a liar
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:52 am>Jake..these are the same tribal leaders who
>were fighting US last year. Just sayin…
right.. I truly have no doubt we are bribing these chieftans with multimillion dollar payoffs and massive weapon shipments. I wonder how long the goodwill will last. It still doesnt make the Sunnis any more friendly to the central government.
This all is sure a spectacle, i must say…its morbidly fascinating to watch such a massive, desparate attempt to market a world altering strategic fiasco.
I bet you anything this trip wasnt planned until Warner dropped his bombshell a week or so ago. I’m sure what he said sent shockwaves through the republican establishment and make them desparate for some sort of distraction.
I am so glad the Government Accountability Office, one of the last bastions of ACCOUNTABILITY in this government, leaked the miserable benchmark report card before the “we know where the weapons are” crew had a chance to doctor it..
These idiots are just desparately trying to buy time (with our tax dollars) until they can hand this off to a democratic president. Iraq is going to choose to ally itself with Iran and theres going to be nothing we can do about it, because it will be their democratic choice.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:53 amThese trials will make Nuremberg look like a dress rehearsal!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:53 amAnyone interested might want to check out the New Yorker article by Jane Mayer on “The Black Sites” - a lengthy article on the secret and illegal prisons (with information from a leaked ICRC report). The Red Cross is aware of them and the methods used there, but if they tell the world what they know, they will not be allowed to minister in those countries again.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:53 amOur country is guilty of war crimes, and if we don’t speak out against it, we are complicit.
“As I told you, I am not a “REPUBâ€. I am an Army vet, though. How about you?
Comment by Jake D. ”
You’re a Liar Jake. This was proved last Veteran’s Day. You are not a Vet. You are a lying chickenhawk coward., just like bush.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:53 amFor the record, I never resort to personal attacks. If CNN is wrong about Maliki, that’s certainly not my fault.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:54 amJake
Three years -ACTIVE ARMY
VEITNUM-ERA
Served while your hero was going to the “DENTIST” in ALABAMA.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:55 am>For the record,
So Jake, what year did you pass the bar exam? What was a passing score, and state did you take it in? How many digits are in your bar #? Is there some reason you never answer this question when someone asks it? Your a lawyer AND a soldier, right Jake?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:58 amGood for you, hawk. I served during the Korean War.
Anyone else NOT on the “Ignore List†for resorting to personal attacks when I don’t and/or refusing to answer my questions to them when I answered all of their questions to me? If not, I will see everyone else at the newer, resolute-Bush thread: http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 09/ 03/ bushs-hope-for-successor-stay-longer-in-iraq/ #comments
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:58 amAnd a good morning back at you, veritas.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:58 amI am sinking into despair as I watch our hapless Democrats and criminal Republicans continue these deranged policies in our name.
I like to come here to commiserate with others of like mind to my own, but I just don’t see anyone making much progress.
When the trolls take over here, I get too frustrated to read through their garbage, so I let them talk to themselves.
You are a lying chickenhawk coward., just like bush.
And Clinton, dont forget Clinton.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:59 amas a success, citing the U.S. military’s alliance with tribal leaders in fighting al Qaeda in Iraq . . . GO BUSH!!! Comment by Jake D.
Jake, this ‘war’ as you wackos call this regime change operation, was about removing the oppressive Sunni [Saddam] regime from power.
Now 4 years later Bush is now supporting….cmon I know you know the answer. Sunnis!
This ‘war’, this freedom operation for peopleoppressed under Sunni Saddam, is a circle Jerk, an excercise in futility. Remove the Sunnis and then replace them with Sunnis. The Sunnis aren’t interested in Democracy btw.
http://www.freep.com/ apps/ pbcs.dll/ article?AID=/ 20070825/ NEWS06/ 708250330/ -1/ RSS07
President George W. Bush should forget about forging a democracy in Iraq and focus on stabilizing the country and combating Islamic extremists, Michigan’s top congressional Republican on foreign intelligence said Friday.
“The U.S. effort to install a democracy in Iraq within three to five years was a flawed strategy with little chance of succeeding, U.S. Rep. Peter Hoekstra said Friday.â€
After meeting recently with Iraq’s Sunni Arab tribal leaders, Hoekstra said, he’s reversed his initial support for Bush’s stated goal of establishing a democracy in Iraq as justification for invading in 2003. “They’re not looking for a county commission to tell them what to do. They have a thousand years of experience of tribal culture that says, ‘This is how we deliver services, keep security and stability.’ “
Seems to me \/\/ is doing a pump n dump Jake. Notice the links I gave are freeper links and a Republican representative.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:59 amBwah. Jakes cup of wisdom is empty.
Impeachment is BACK ON THE TABLE! LOL!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:00 ambreak out the fake turkeys so the presidential turkey can serve it up to the troops
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:01 amVeritas, I see you already noted the New Yorker Article in #6, which I didn’t see before I posted my own reference to the same thing.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:01 amI hope people read it, and mostly, I hope our representatives take some action.
If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” has a link to Nancy Pelosi saying “impeachment is back on the table” please let me know. Thanks in advance.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:02 amGood Morning all, except the jake dildo….What a fake… All I can say is Thank’s for the link’s and great post’s…You guy’s and gal’s are the best for new’s and updates….I am not a bit suprised the looser is out stumping to push his failed lies as sucesses, wonder if the fool brought pom pom’s…Great new’s to come for peace justice I am sure, just wish it were faster…..Blessings to you all.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:04 amWhoa, now a republican is the voice of wisdom to the left, go figure.
Four seven years now repubs have been vilified as Bible-thumping hicks, but when one speaks out against the war, why he is a paragon of cogent appraisal about the war.
Dont bother mentioning guys like Baird or Lieberman, they have been co-opted by Cheney’s mind control device and are now traitorous scum. But Hoekstra…now THERE is a man of insight and obvious intelligence and all because he opposes the war.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:07 amLong story short, history will be the judge but if there’s ever democracy in the Middle East, it will be credited to Bush
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 9:28 am
AH ha ha ha ha ha ha!
You may be right. Bush could be credited with democracy in the Middle East, in much the same way that the 1906 San Francisco earthquake can be credited with bringing stronger building codes to California.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:13 amBush told Petraeus to add Bush’s visit to the report as ‘benchmark’…
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:16 amComment by Marie — September 3, 2007 @ 9:43 am
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September 3rd, 2007 at 10:26 am>Anyone else NOT on the “Ignore List†for obvious personal attacks and/or >refusing to answer my questions?
Why arent you answering mine?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:27 amOh boy, another photo op. And he will come away and say “look, things are great in Iraq. I was able to fly in (under heavy military cover, unannounced) and have my picture taken with hand picked soldiers. If that isn’t progress, I don’t know what is.
The man’s hubris knows no bounds.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:28 amDo you remember any of your professors names in law school jake? what year did you graduate from Standford Law?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:28 amBecause there IS a “Margaret” on the Ignore List — of course, you could be a different Margaret — so, if you certify that you have never resorted to personal attacks and/or refused to answer my questions, I would be glad to answer your question.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:30 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNrS_0b1s44
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 amDon’t waste your time margaret… Jake’s making it up as he goes along. Apparently being in the military and being a lawyer is a double dose of imaginary legitimacy that these trolls crave.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:32 am>so, if you certify that you have never resorted to personal attacks
>and/or refused to answer my questions,
> I would be glad to answer your question.
ok… I certify it…
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 am“In 2003, Bush made a surprise visit to U.S. forces in Iraq on Thanksgiving.â€
GO BUSH!!!
Comment by Jake D.”
Yeah, Bush made a surprise visit with a rubber Turkey. Way to go Bush! And the reason for the turn-around in Anbar province is that everyone has fled the city. It is virtually a ghost town at this point. Pretty easy to lower violence in a city with no people.
Keep on drinking that kool-aid Jake. It is rotting what is left of your brain.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 amso, if you certify that you have never resorted to personal attacks and/or refused to answer my questions, I would be glad to answer your question.
Comment by Jake D.
Another day of Jake’s intellectual fraud, otherwise known as “the list.”
What Jake doesn’t tell you is he answers those he has put on the list all the time, directly. It’s all a scam. He’s answered me many times, and I’m a charter member of the list. When you post something he disagrees with, and you’re on his list, he’ll answer you, and then claim he didn’t, to maintain the farce.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:36 amBush lands in the middle of thousands of square miles of desert to show how the surge is working and to promote turning the habitual regions of the country into peaceful democratic deserts to.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 amGood enough for me, Margaret (I also address other matters “for the record” just in case someone NOT on the “Ignore List” is intrested — I certainly would want to bother someone already on the “Ignore List”). I graduated, took, and passed the California bar exam in 1961. I don’t recall my exact score (I don’t think they even gave an exact score back then, just a congratulatory letter saying you passed, which was all I needed). There were five digits in my bar number (I’m retired, as you may recall). As for professor names, I do recall Herbert Packer and someone named Smith, but I don’t remember the first name. That was a long time ago. Are you a lawyer? If so, are you still practicing? Do you recall all of these details?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 amFor the record, I never resort to personal attacks. If CNN is wrong about Maliki, that’s certainly not my fault.
Comment by Jake D.
Jake the liar strikes again.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 amFor the record, I never resort to personal attacks. If CNN is wrong about Maliki, that’s certainly not my fault.
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 9:54 am
It’s a broken record, Jake. You regularly refer to the DEFEATOCRATS, which not only is a personal attack, but puts the lie to your claim to be independent.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:43 amComment by Jake D.
My last post says it all about Jake and his fake list. Anyone who believes this scam is naive.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:43 amHow many tests did you take to become a lawyer?
I’m not a lawyer yet, but I will be soon.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:45 am“I certainly would want to bother someone already on the “Ignore List.â€
Then why did you answer me directly after putting me on your list? You’re a fraud.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 amwould = wouldn’t
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 amJust more PR from the administration with not one ounce of substance…they are phoney, thugs in a crime family. Not one of them has the guts to tell this drunken AWOL coward what a major screw up he is…they just nod their heads in approval as they go over the cliff. What a pathetic bunch of morons.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:47 amIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” thinks my correcting a typo is the same as directly addressing someone on the “Ignore List” let me know.
P.S. Margaret — again, I don’t recall how many different essay vs. multiple choice, but it was two days of testing.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:48 amIs your name really Jake D. ?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 am#93 BnF
Thanks for the link. I will add it to my “favorites.”
namaste
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 amP.P.S. Margaret — good luck on your career — after 45 years, I hope you remember more details than I can : )
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:50 amsomebody needs to go back to freeperville. jerk D.’s willful ignorance of the facts is stupifying.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:50 amJames Dort, but my friends call me Jake. What’s your name?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 am“If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†thinks my correcting a typo is the same as directly addressing someone on the “Ignore List†let me know.”
See? He’s a fraud. And he spoke to me directly, not simply “correcting a typo.”
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 am>What’s your name?
Margaret Hastings. And you were in what branch of the miltary?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 am“James Dort, but my friends call me Jake. What’s your name?
Comment by Jake D.”
He claims to be a James Dort who graduated from Stanford. Easy to steal someone’s identity on the internet.
Anyone here who lives in the San Diego area, look up James Dort in the phone book and call him and ask him if he posts on TP.
My bet is NOT.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 amArmy.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 amOk, I’ve attempted to warn others about Jake, so if they choose to consort with him, it’s their business.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:00 am“Anyone here who lives in the San Diego area, look up James Dort in the phone book and call him and ask him if he posts on TP.”
No such listing, in either residence or business pages.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 am> Anyone here who lives in the San Diego area,
> look up James Dort in the phone book and call him and ask him if he >posts on TP. My bet is NOT.
Someone go for it..
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/ search/ member_detail.aspx?x=32123
Phone Number (858) 274-5189
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 amFax Number Not Available
e-mail Not Available
> but it was two days of testing.
Two days? Hmmmm
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:06 amYep, that’s my bar # and phone #. I’m not afraid of you guys.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:10 am“I’m not afraid of you guys.”
Comment by Jake D.
Your “list” is an tacit acknowledgement that you ARE afraid of us guys.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:13 amIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” has a question as to why I won’t engage those who resort to personal attacks when I don’t and/or refuse to answer my questions when I answered all of their questions, please let me know.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:17 amyou only took had to take one test?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:17 amWe know the president disagrees Dana, he ALWAYS disagrees because in his demented mind he thinks he became king. He has no idea there are common folk out here who are the very reason for the government. It is not the government you think it is either. You are an appointee so you have your allegiances but…let me say this, your greater loyalty, as a public employee is to your country not your leader. If it’s not then you are a big part of this administration’s problems, it doesn’t listen, it’s secretive, it disrespects congress and thus the people, and it makes war not diplomacy. Not to mention that YOUR government spies on us with complete disregard for the fourth amendment, has found a “Christian” tolerance for torture, and has essentially replaced the rule of law with the rule of might. That’s what your part of and that’s what your grandchildren will know Ms. Perino. Worse yet you think everything is ok.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 amLet the (next round of) bullshitting begin!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 amNo, Margaret, there were many essay and multiple choice tests during those two days (I also know that it has expanded to three days now).
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 am“If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†has a question as to why I won’t engage those who resort to personal attacks when I don’t and/or refuse to answer my questions when I answered all of their questions, please let me know.”
But you have in the past. Your list is an intellectual fraud, perpetrated on new posters who don’t know better.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 amwilliamf:
Romans 13 allows the government to EXECUTE criminals — why don’t you think the lesser-included TORTURE is allowed?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 am>No, Margaret, there were many essay and multiple choice tests during >those two days
you seem to be forgetting something…oh well, whatever…
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 amwilliamf:
Caveat emptor, re: Jake’s remarks.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 amBush: “This here is not one o’ them thar photo-ops. It’s what you call a downhome, good-ole boy, god fearin’, pretzel chewin’ Death Monkey photo-op.”
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 amRomans 13 allows the government to EXECUTE criminals — why don’t you think the lesser-included TORTURE is allowed?
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Last I checked the laws of the US were passed by the legislature, not by the bible.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:26 amMargaret:
Not sure what you think I am forgetting, but that’s fine. My bar admission is obviously not the topic of this thread. Back to Iraq: does anyone (NOT on the “Ignore List”) know if Bush met with Prime Minister Maliki yet?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 amwilliamf:
Since you brought up a “Christian†tolerance for torture, I would think the Book of Romans was relevant. Let me know if you have any questions.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 amLast I checked the laws of the US were passed by the legislature,
not by the bible.
Comment by Krazny — September 3, 2007 @ 11:26 am
AMERICAN TALIBAN…
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 am…
> Not sure what you think I am forgetting.
That the Bar Exam isnt the only exam you have to take (other than your law school exams) for you to become a lawyer in the united states…
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:30 amIf everything is hunky dory in Iraq, why didn’t Bush invite all of Iraq to join him in another flightsuit fashion parade and go sashaying down the streets of Baghdad, instead of making a surprise visit to a remote base?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 amThe only reason our coward-in-chief went “down under” is to prop-up another conservative politicion in his losing election.
As a second thought,the chimp stop by a fly-over to visit our troops.
ALL-thats right,the hussie-in-chief stood by our “worst president-in-history” over IRAG.
I wonder how much that cost the American taxpayers?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 amAbe Lincoln once read for his law license — didn’t take a single exam — your point being?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 am“Since you brought up a “Christian†tolerance for torture, I would think the Book of Romans was relevant.”
And Jake was a lawyer? Any reasonably competent attorney would have a field day with Jake’s assertion. I think I now see what retired Jake: incompetance.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 amIf the progress were so substantial, why all the secrecy? Why not an unprotected stroll down Haifa Street in Baghdad to receive the thanks of a grateful Baghdad?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 amMargaret:
My bar number is posted above if you really are still doubting whether I was admitted in California.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:34 amRomans 13 allows the government to EXECUTE criminals — why don’t you think the lesser-included TORTURE is allowed?
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 11:22 am
I’m glad you brought that up, Jake. I’ve been waiting for the right time to advocate the re-introduction of slavery based on Bibliical verse. Do you think now would be good time?
“When you buy a Hebrew slave, six years shall he serve; and in the seventh shall he go out free, for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master has given him a wife, and she has borne him sons or daughters, the wife and the children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself. And if the slave shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: then his master shall bring him unto God, and he shall bring him to the door or unto the door-post, and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl, and he shall be his slave forever.â€
—Exodus 21:2-6.
I’ve already got a good awl—-whattaya say, Jake?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 amRomans 13 allows the government to EXECUTE criminals — why don’t you think the lesser-included TORTURE is allowed?
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 11:22 am
I sure do wish the government might consider this option with that jackass “I don’t need to pay taxes” idiot Brown up in NH. Why are this kooks always right of center? I quess they finally got the brush cleared and needed some other way to try to deflect attention
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 amnot by the bible.
Comment by Krazny — September 3, 2007 @ 11:26 am
Or by Romans…
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:40 amI have to look something up but I find it a little strange that you don’t know about the other exam you had to take to become a lawyer.
Maybe something has changed since 1962. I’m going to email someone and ask….
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:40 ampaps meer:
Good luck repealing the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments (about as much chance as prohibition of shellfish : )
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:41 ampaps meer:
Good luck repealing the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments (about as much chance as prohibition of shellfish : )
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 11:41 am
Jake, are you saying the Bible is outdated? Or should we repeal those amendments?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 amMargaret:
Are you referring to the MPRE? That was mandated after Watergate.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:44 amI have to look something up but I find it a little strange that you don’t know about the other exam you had to take to become a lawyer.
Maybe something has changed since 1962. I’m going to email someone and ask….
Comment by Margaret
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Margaret, are you referring to the California professional responsibility exam? I know that in 1983, it was entirely separate from the 3 days of essay and multiple choice and you had to pass it before being admitted.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:44 amWHICH ARE YOU FIRST, JAKE, AN AMERICAN OR A CHRISTIAN?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 am“Jake, are you saying the Bible is outdated? Or should we repeal those amendments?”
Comment by paps meer
He’s all over the road, weaving drunkenly from one ill-thought assertion to the next.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:46 am>Margaret, are you referring to the California
> professional responsibility exam?
Yeah exactly…..
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:47 amThe Bible is not oudated and never mandated slavery; ergo we should not repeal those amendments. Now, if you want to repeal the 19th Amendment . . .
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:47 amI’m a Christian first, obviously.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:48 am#
GO BUSH!!!
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 9:19 am
#
and don’t come back.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:48 am“The Bible is not oudated and never mandated slavery; ergo we should not repeal those amendments. Now, if you want to repeal the 19th Amendment . . .”
Comment by Jake D.
Apparently someone forgot how southern slave holders used scripture to justify their acts.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 amIf you guys want to discuss me, rather than the topic “Bush in Iraq” I understand. Quite a PR move he made right before the DEFEATOCRATS come back to D.C.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:51 amThe Bible is not oudated and never mandated slavery; ergo we should not repeal those amendments. Now, if you want to repeal the 19th Amendment . . .
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Yes, Jake! It even says so in the Bible:
“And a man will choose…any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman…Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die” Ecclesiasticus, 25:18, 19 & 33.
I say let’s take as much of the Bible literally as possible, eh, Jake?
And no, perhaps the Bible never mandated slavery, but it certainly provided justification for it.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 am“If you guys want to discuss me, rather than the topic “Bush in Iraq.â€
Nah. I just feel compelled to tell newbies that your list is a fraud.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 am>Are you referring to the MPRE? That was mandated after Watergate.
Interesting that you know this much about it now but didnt seem to have any clue what I was referring about “other tests” before I explicitly mentioned a 2nd exam.
You might be a lawyer, or you might be talking to a relative or something that is a lawyer.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 amOh well, I guess I don’t really care…..have a nice day…
Just one question about the picture: Why is Bush in front of a Shinto shrine?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 amAre you referring to the MPRE? That was mandated after Watergate.
-the joke
so, the california professional responsibility exam
would be the CPRE… a guess…
what state would “M” represent?
i thought that was curious…
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:53 am…
what state would “M†represent?
Make-believe?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 amHave a nice Labor Day, Margaret.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 amIf Bush really wants to show how much the surge is working, why not actually announce when he is going to Iraq?
He could taunt the insurgents and AQI with “and if they want a piece of me while I’m here, then BRING IT ON!”
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 amwhat state would “M†represent?
Make-believe?
Comment by barfly — September 3, 2007 @ 11:55 am
oh yea… that one…
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 pm…
Jake, did I just make your “ignore” list or something?
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 pm” Interesting that you know this much about it now but didnt seem to have any clue what I was referring to about “other tests†before I explicitly mentioned a 2nd exam.”
My guess is he’s plagarizing a relative. I just can’t see a 75 year old using LOL and having paypal accounts. PLus theres his whole war record cut n paste plagarized from some other veteran’s….
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 pmOh well, I guess I don’t really care…..have a nice day…
Comment by Margaret — September 3, 2007 @ 11:52 am
Margaret, it takes time to Google when is trying to create a convincing online persona.
For example, you type “professional responsibility exam” as was referenced by you into Google, and it throws out” MPRE” and lo and behold the persona has a convincing acronym to throw out there.
Even better, click on the MPRE wiki, and there’s the reference to Watergate, lending even more seeming credence to the persona’s familiarity with the term.
Now who would really know, right off the top of their head, that the MPRE wasn’t around until after Watergate unless that person looked it up. Wouldn’t it make more sense to say, “It wasn’t required when I took the bar.” No, in order to bolster the fabrication, you add some random detail.
Kinda like criminals do when relating their alibis. They think the more detail they can offer makes them more convincing. Quite the opposite.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 pmOkay, so a quick translation of the update…
“Sir, we don’t know what the heck we are doing but we are very, very happy about it sir!”
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 pmComment by troqua — September 3, 2007 @ 12:04 pm
You are clearly a wise observer of human behavior and as the same I agree
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:08 pm>Now who would really know, right off the top of their head,
> that the MPRE wasn’t around until after
> Watergate unless that person looked it up.
> Wouldn’t it make more sense to say,
> “It wasn’t required when I took the bar.â€
Right…. I repeatedly asked about “other exams” and “other tests” and he seemed to not have a clue what I was talking about, then all of a sudden he knows what im talking about in vivid detail.. seemed fishy to me also…
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 pmI will never be convinced that Capt Hemming wasn’t ordered by his superiors to tell the president that morale is “very high, sir”. And I think that Capt Henning should have seriously weighed the ethics of telling his commander-in-chief a flat out lie like that, even if he was ordered to do so.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:14 pmHas Bush been able to convince anyone besides his “28%ers” to give a rip about Iraq? What a failure for a leader–send Americans overseas to die for his lies and can’t even rally half the nation to give a damn about his “war.”
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 pmComment by Wayne A. Schneider — September 3, 2007 @ 12:14 pm
The soldier boy for his soldiers pay
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:20 pmObeys the sergeant at arms whatever he says
The sergeant will for his sergeant’s pay
Obey the captain ’till his dying day
The captain will for his captain’s pay
Obey the general order of battle play
The generals bow to the government
Obey the charge you must not relent
What of the neighbors and the prophets in bars?
What are they saying in the public bazaar?
We are tired of the tune
You must not relent
At every stroke of the bell in the tower there goes
Another boy from another side
The bulletins that steady come in say those
Familiar words at the top of the hour
The jamming city increases its hum
And those terrible words continue to come
Through brass music of government hear those
Guns tattoo a roll on the drums
No-one mentions the neighboring war
No one knows what they’re fighting for
We are tired of the tune
You must not relent
As you now know, GDumbya has flown to Iraq; however, this isn’t the big secret.
His trip is the first step in launching the Pentagon’s three-day airstrike on Iran. Later today, GDumbya will don his flight-suit and cod-piece. Then he will climb into his fighter plane and lead the first bombing run on nu-ku-lar facilities in Iran.
Remember, you heard it hear first! You see, he has found a way to secure his legacy.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pmthe president will get an even less realistic view of Iraq than Congressmen have, considering all the protection they have to give him… it’s not possible for him to get a true picture there - it’s too dangerous for him… so, whatever he has to say must be taken with a ton of salt…
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:27 pmComment by jstrummerviadbadass — September 3, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
Thanks. It was sad to lose Joe so early.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:31 pmI think the real story here is Laura staying home. Now, normally I wouldn’t think anything if Bush went and Laura didn’t go. But its the REASON they gave for Laura not attending. They said she stayed home to tend to a “pinched nerve” in her neck.
We all get pinched nerves, and no one stays home from work, vacation, school or anything else over a pinched nerve.
I think Laura stayed home, cause she told her husband she was done selling his war.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:39 pmCodpiece Guy is about to speak to troops in Iraq. I keep looking at the faces of the troops in the crowd and I swear I almost lost it. So young.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:39 pmIF SECURITY IS SO GOOD THEN WHY THIS
The mission to shore up support for the war was shared with only a small circle of White House staffers and members of the media, who were told that if news of his trip leaked early, it would be scrapped.
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pmhttp://news.independent.co.uk/ world/ middle_east/ article2922293.ece
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:48 pmThe Bible is not oudated and never mandated slavery; ergo we should not repeal those amendments. Now, if you want to repeal the 19th Amendment . . .
Comment by Jake D. — September 3, 2007 @ 11:47 am
Sure it did, because it codified that slavery was valid, and that those that were slaves had to behave properly. Therefore if slavery was legal in the bible, who’s man to make it illegal - right wingnut?
As for your hatred of women and their equal rights, figures. You self loathing types prefer the company of other men in bathroom stalls. Poor thing! It’s not the fault of women that you’re in the closet!
September 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 pmComment by BARTLEBEE — September 3, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
What’s really crazy is that she suffered this pinched nerve back in the spring, and subsequently took a trip to Africa.
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 pmIf someone “Frags” the idiot can’t they just claim battlefield fatigue?
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 pmI think Laura stayed home, cause she told her husband she was done selling his war.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 3, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
OR she stayed home because they knew he was stopping in Iraq….and neither one really believes Iraq is safe.
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 pmi agree bartlebee…
and badger adds a logical point also…
…
btw - badger - you are in australia?
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 pmwhy was i thinking wisconsin? other than the obvious…
…
katy… your second guess is correct. If I were in Australia, I’d be a marsupial ;)