Bush’s surge escalated ethnic cleansing.
By on Sep 3rd, 2007 at 3:02 pm
Bush’s surge escalated ethnic cleansing.
Shiites have cleared the western half of Baghdad of thousands of Sunnis, who once dominated the area. “The surge of U.S. troops — meant in part to halt the sectarian cleansing of the Iraqi capital — has hardly stemmed the problem.” Rafiq Tschannen, chief of the Iraq mission for the International Organization for Migration, “says that the fighting that accompanied the influx of U.S. troops actually ‘has increased the IDPs to some extent.’”
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Worst President ever.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmWell, LA DI DA!
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmHistory will show American troops occupied Iraq while genocide took place under their noses. It’s arrogant for Americans to assume a mindless 160,000 troops can prevent the slaughter and turmoil in Iraq.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:18 pmLet’s play “how to spin Bush’s surge escalated ethnic cleansing”. As sad as that is, you know the White House is going to tell us we’re not looking hard enough for the diamond in the rough.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmBush hates anyone between him and “his” oil.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmDON’T F*CK WITH A DRY DRUNK.
You present this as a negative, but you have to remember that to Bush supporters, ethnic cleansing is not a bad thing. They’ve already done it in New Orleans, and the immigration policies are just a poorly masked effort at more ethnic cleansing in the US.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:24 pmMaybe we should tell Dumbya that for the rest of his term, it’s “opposite day”, then, everything he does would actually turn out good, for a change.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:25 pmLet’s not forget the reason we are in Iraq people. WMD’s! Pretty soon we can start calling these IDPs.. WMD’s and our invasion won’t be in vane!
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:26 pmWooooooooo!
Imagine the horror that would take place if the U.S. weren’t there…
Those Iraqis should be thanking their lucky stars that America is protecting them!
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmThis Toilet-Paper hate-site is so virulent towards the US military, as based on its misuse of anti-US soldier “news” sources like MSNBC and its plan to disguise its hatred of the troops by blaming Bush. What TP did incorrectly, to begin with, is reference MSNBC for ANYTHING related to Iraq. TP must guiltily know that MSNBC is so anti-US soldiers that it employed military slanderer William Arkin who derogated US troops as mercenaries! How dare Toilet Paper abuse MSNBC as a source when MSNBC has been exposed time and time again for spreading hateful propaganda against the military. Secondly, TP misconceives the MSNBC article since Bush’s surge is meant to stop only civilian attacks, which the article ADMITS are down. Bush or the US military can’t well be held accountable for the uncivilized, beastly Shiites and Sunnis continuing to ethnically cleanse each other, can they? Of course not!
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:28 pmImagine the horror that would take place if the U.S. weren’t there…
Those Iraqis should be thanking their lucky stars that America is protecting them!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Yeah, they’d have electricity, AC, there would no car bombs at markets and outside schools, they would have a dictator, oh wait that’s what bush has in store for them as soon as his coup happens.
And we’ve have 160,000 more troops in Afghanistan looking for the guy who attacked us on 9-11.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:32 pmBush or the US military can’t well be held accountable for the uncivilized, beastly Shiites and Sunnis continuing to ethnically cleanse each other, can they? Of course not!
Comment by USmilitarycursedbyUSprogressives
Were you born stupid son, or have you been huffing paint?
OUR PRESENCE HAS CREATED A STITUATION WHEREBY ETHNIC CLEANSING CAN TAKE PLACE.
THAT’S HOW IT’S BUSH’S FAULT, MORON.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:38 pmBush or the US military can’t well be held accountable for the uncivilized, beastly Shiites and Sunnis continuing to ethnically cleanse each other, can they? Of course not!
Comment by USmilitarycursedbyUSprogressives — September 3, 2007
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That’s exactly right, and nobody does blame Bush for those attacks except the lunatic, kook-fringe Leftists on TP.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:43 pmIf it weren’t so pathetic, it would almost be funny to listen to all GDumbya’s rhetoric about needing to stay in Iraq to prevent ethnic cleansing, terrorist bombings, etc.
If GDumbya had spent half as much time thinking through the consequences of his dirty little invasion of Iraq as he has spent yapping about the supposed consequences of a withdrawal, we could have been spared this long national nightmare.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:44 pmYeah, it’s too bad George Bush dismantled the Iraqi police and the entire security infrastructure of Iraq when we invaded. Bush’s Iraq policies of completely undoing the civil order and the military and police hierarchy in Iraq have DIRECTLY led to this climate of civil war and ethnic strife.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:44 pmp.s. — and all the supposed consequences of a U.S. withdrawal are, in fact, direct consequences of GDumbya’s invasion in the first place
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:45 pmIt will be interesting to see, how things will proceed in Basra, now that the British troops are leaving. What if, dear USmilitarycursedbyUSprogressives there will be peace? Willyou finally admit that the US troops can be brought home?
The people in Basra are actually celebrating the British redeployment.
We’ll see.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:45 pmWillyou finally admit that the US troops can be brought home?
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Comment by doro — September 3, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
Foolish lefty.
http://djkonservo.wordpress.com/2007/09/02/madhi-army-stand-down/
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:48 pmGood post, doro. That’s exactly what I was thinking this morning. Early reports would indicate that there have been no reprisals or violence.
Of course, if GDumbya keeps pressing his surge “strategery”, the dissendent could well be pushed into Basra and start acting up.
Iraq is like a half-filled balloon. GDumbya squeezes it in one place and it bulges out somewhere else.
It is not unlike Afghanistan in this regard except it’s beginning to look like GDumbya has given up on squeezing that particular balloon . . . highest ever poppy seed production this year and a resurgent Taliban that have virtually taken back control over everything but Kabul.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:51 pmComment by AWGWSTWS — September 3, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
In the short time I have been participating in the discourse here, I have had the sordid distaste to read a post by an acclaimed GOPr within which he called some members of the elite 82nd Airborne “Rogue soldiers” for exercising their right in registering dissent about the course of the war in Iraq. Not once have I heard a Progressive offered anything but glowing approbation for the sacrifices our troops make on a daily basis.
And your point was?
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:51 pmhttp://rawstory.com/news/afp/Bush_says_fewer_troops_needed_to_ma_09032007.html
But Bush says we now need less troops!!
Bush says we can wiithdraw troops!
Foolish Mr P. Righty.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:53 pmThat’s exactly right, and nobody does blame Bush for those attacks except the lunatic, kook-fringe Leftists on TP.
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Oh please, Cheney new that Iraq would become a quagmire if we went into Iraq, and so Did Bush Sr and Scowcroft. But old Oedipus just wouldn’t listen.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:56 pmComment by applebeePebblebee — September 3, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
Well, now that you mention the 82nd Airborne….
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/006bzlfl.asp
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:58 pm
And your point was?
Comment by applebeePebblebee
Its bewteen his scrawny little righty shoulders. Oddly that pointy space holds more nothingness than the universe.
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:58 pmComment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
I only have the color of foolish to paint you with.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:00 pmWeaklystainedturd
What a crock of crap that fascist circular that is. Right off the Fox Murdoch propaganda press
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:01 pmThanks tom. You’re right Karsai is the mayor of Kabul and that’s about it. I really grieve for all the lives lost because of your President’s foolishness.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:01 pmWhat a crock of crap that fascist circular that is. Right off the Fox Murdoch propaganda press
Comment by BORe Ink — September 3, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
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I see your NYT, and raise you WeeklyStandard…
Read the article, Mr. Open-mind!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:02 pmComment by AWGWSTWS — September 3, 2007 @ 3:58 pm
Seven “other” soldiers, “of their own accord” _forwarded_ a rebuttal to the NYT?
No wonder the NYT refused to publish. As if we can expect our Press to actually start showing some responsisbility giving their performance lately!
Bravo NYT for seeing through the “special rebuttal arrangement”!
Encore!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:03 pmBravo NYT for seeing through the “special rebuttal arrangementâ€!
Encore!
Comment by applebeePebblebee — September 3, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
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Wow. You’ve finished your kool-aid and now you’ve asked for more!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:04 pmNPR has been reporting about this ethnic cleansing in Baghdad neighborhoods for a month now. Masked gunmen forcing Sunni families out of their homes, and replacing them with Shiite families.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:06 pmAll this is happening under the watchfull eyes of the Iraqi police and army. The Sunni cabinet members have quit the government, and this injustice probably has a lot to do with their leaving.
Read the article, Mr. Open-mind!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Lemme see what Mr P cop out can I use.
Truth is subjective and only when a large majority agree with that opinion does it become true.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:06 pmworsening ethnic cleansing would be perfectly consistent with bush effing-up everything he is involved with.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:07 pm.
Read the article, Mr. Open-mind!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
My mind is open, your the one that cant stop with the parroting of idiot pundits. Lefty this, libtard that, Islamo this, Islamostalinist that, on and on and on under many monikers, on a daily basis.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:14 pmComment by BORe Ink — September 3, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
RSS feed for comments on this post.
I’ll be interested in the rebuttal to this keen observation
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:15 pm#9
If TP could have access to critical war info they would use it against the US without hesitation.
This is a 24/7 Traitor blog site.
TP attracts every imaginable full blown nutter from conspiracy 9/11 freaks to alien space invaders.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmA stupid, right wing moron on this thread claimed that Iraqi civilian deaths have gone down during the surge. In fact, the deaths have DOUBLED during the surge. Visit this link for proof…
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003631296
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:18 pmworsening ethnic cleansing would be perfectly consistent with bush effing-up everything he is involved with.
Comment by pluege
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Kinda like Bill Klinton did with the 800,000 murdered Rwandan, without lifting a finger.
TP attracts every imaginable full blown nutter from conspiracy 9/11 freaks to alien space invaders.
Comment by Bob — September 3, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Hey everyone, let’s welcome Bob!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:20 pmhttp://rawstory.com/ news/ afp/ Bush_says_fewer_troops_needed_to_ma_09032007.html
But Bush says we now need less troops!!
Bush says we can wiithdraw troops!
Comment by BORe Ink — September 3, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
those who don’t read that link might not get the caveat:
he says we can withdraw troops
IF things keep going as well as they have been…
what a tease…
i can’t believe he actually brought that up…
well, yes, i can…
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:23 pm…
TP attracts every imaginable full blown nutter from conspiracy 9/11 freaks to alien space invaders.
Comment by Bob — September 3, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
So tell me, Bob, how does it feel to know that 70% of voters pretty much agree with the majority of posters here about Bush?
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:25 pmIf TP could have access to critical war info they would use it against the US without hesitation.
This is a 24/7 Traitor blog site.
TP attracts every imaginable full blown nutter from conspiracy 9/11 freaks to alien space invaders.
Comment by Bob — September 3, 2007
Then WHAT are YOU doing on a “traitor blog site”??
And YES, your presence DEFINITELY is from the rightwing nutjobs…
And yes, YOU are a TRAITOR to the USA. Just like MURDERER Bush.
If YOU do not REPENT, then YOU will be ETERNALLY DAMNED also.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:25 pmWeaklystainedturd
What a crock of crap that fascist circular that is. Right off the Fox Murdoch propaganda press
Comment by BORe Ink
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Weakly Stained Turd
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:26 pmIs that what happens as a result of repeated turd polishing?
Thanks badass glad to join you TP guys here:)
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:26 pmIf YOU do not REPENT, then YOU will be ETERNALLY DAMNED also.
Comment by NRA Gunnutes
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Is this your sis ANN?
Repent of what?
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:28 pmHowdy, Bob!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:28 pmBush will have NO choice but to reduce the number of troops in Iraq by April, because the Military has NOt met it’s recruitment goals.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:30 pmHis task will be to come up with a “story” to make it look like this was his plan all along. Unless the wheels come off the whole situation by then.
How do you do it AVGVSTVS?
HeyooooOOOoo!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:33 pmHi badger, keep up the good work. AVGVSTVS is being ridiculous again tonight, so I’m off.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:34 pmBush is responsible for more Iraqi deaths than Saddam.
Bush’s director of National Intelligence, Mike McConnell, said “Saddam had killed 300,000 of his own countrymen.â€
According to the British military, Bush killed 650,000 Iraqi civilians.
Conclusion: Bush is a bigger tyrant than Saddam.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:38 pmAVGVSTVS is being ridiculous again tonight, so I’m off.
Comment by doro — September 3, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
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Why don’t you want to hear the truth?
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:39 pmWhat is it that you fox people are looking for. Everything that comes out of the wh now is proven to be false,you can’t deny it and fox sings their praises how the hell can you continue watch and tell us how wrong we are,I can’t believe the vietnam generation gave birth to you it’s impossible.It sucks.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:39 pmHEyOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooOOOOooOoOoOo! Bob!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:39 pmAccording to the British military, Bush killed 650,000 Iraqi civilians.
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Comment by corsair — September 3, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
Wrong. According to the article:
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:41 pm
AVGVSTVS:
Here’s an archive of the Independent article…
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032707P.shtml
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:42 pmWhen are the reptards going to finally wake up and realize that there is no way you can “win” an occupation. We are occupying Iraq and by our occupation, we are getting in the way of Iraq finding solutions to their problems on their own. No country wants another company to come in, take over and tell them what to do. We certainly would not react well if someone did that to us. Just imagine China coming over here telling us that they now own us (they pretty much do own us considering how much money we have “borrowed” from them for this insane war). Then they start telling us how to run this country. Would we sit idly by and say “yes sir”? I doubt it.
The fact is that Bush has lost. The Iraqi’s are not going to give him their oil revenues. Since that is why Bush invaded in the first place, it is time for him to admit defeat and leave.
Every death of an American soldier lies squarely on the shoulders of the Bush Crime Family and every member of Congress who continues to vote to keep us there. May god have mercy on their souls.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:42 pmDepopulation has been the goal from the outset, just the way Israel wants it. All of the strategies the US military is following are dictated by Israel. They teach every technique they have been employing for years in the occupied territories. Only no, the “territory” has grown much larger, just as the Zionists wished:
“We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel… Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours.” Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces – Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
On 04 September 2001 a demonstration was held in Jerusalem to support of the Idea of the State Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates. It was organised by the movement Bead Artzein (”For the Homeland”), headed by rabbi and historian Avrom Shmulevic from Hebron. According to Shmulevic, “We shall have no peace as long as the whole territory of the Land of Israel will not return under Jewish control…. A stable peace will come only then, when Israel will return to itself all its historical lands, and will thus control both the Suez and the Ormudz channel…. We must remember that Iraqi oil fields too are located on the Jewish land.”
What is “Eretz Israel?
THIS is Eretz Israel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
“We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.” Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:45 pm“Imagine the horror that would take place if the U.S. weren’t there…
Those Iraqis should be thanking their lucky stars that America is protecting them!
Comment by AVGVSTVS “
Yes, and this is a horror we created. We need to leave and get out of their way. We need to broker some kind of an international force to replace some troops to help keep the peace. And we need to give them some of the billions we were spending on having our military occupying their country to the Iraqi’s so that they can rebuild their infrastructure and create jobs for Iraqi’s, not for foreign slave labor.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:45 pmHEyoooooooooOOOOOOOooooo.
ace is here with the JOOOoooooo software.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:46 pmColor me shocked: The New York Times declined to publish it.
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Why should the New York Times publish their propagandized version. They already print the propaganda that comes out of the Bush Crime Family on a daily basis. There is no need to print any more propaganda. I was actually quite shocked that the New York Times even printed the article by those brave men in the 82nd.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:47 pmThat’s exactly right, and nobody does blame Bush for those attacks except the lunatic, kook-fringe Leftists on TP.
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Yes, the 70% of Americans who are the lunatic, kook-fringe Leftists.
Wow, we are doing well progressives, aren’t we. Our country is now 70% lunatic, kook-fringe Leftists!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:50 pmSo much for efficaciousness.
Happy Labor Day, courtesy of the ten Republican assclowns in this 65th Edition. On the spit this week: Larry Craig (9); Ted Nugent (7); Ted Haggard (4); Homeland Security (3) and George W. Bush (1) grabs the top honors again for being such a multi-tasking scumbag. All this and much, much more.
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September 3rd, 2007 at 4:52 pm.
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ace is here with the JOOOoooooo software.
Comment by Bob — September 3, 2007 @ 4:46 pm
“Mr. P” in one of his many Megaphone disguises.
Isn’t it handy to utilize software that allows you to pose as ten different people in rapid succession, with different IP addresses generate for each new persona?
“During the war we had the opportunity to do some very nice things with the megaphone community,” he revealed at the conference. Among them, he claimed, was a role in getting an admission from Reuters that a photograph of damage to Beirut had been doctored by a Lebanese photographer to increase the amount of smoke in the picture. This was first spotted by American blogger Charles Johnson, who has won an award for “promoting Israel and Zionism”.
To check out the power of the megaphone, I logged onto a website called GIYUS (Give Israel Your United Support) last Wednesday afternoon. More than 25,000 registered users of http://www.giyus.org have downloaded the megaphone software, which enables them to receive alerts asking them to get active online.
It did not take long for an alert to come through. A Foreign Office minister, Kim Howells, had issued a press statement condemning that day’s Palestinian rocket attack which killed an elderly Israeli and wounded other civilians. GIYUS wanted site users to “show your appreciation of the UK’s response”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0%2C%2C329636899-103552%2C00.html
Bob = Mr P. = Israeli Operative
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:53 pmRepent of what?
Comment by Bob — September 3, 2007
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:54 pmSupporting the MURDEROUS ACTS of TRAITOR Bush the coxucker PUNK.
Bob = Mr P. = Israeli Operative
Comment by ace — September 3, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Cool!
Hey Bob, it looks like we are working for Israel now!
We got promotions!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:56 pmDoesn’t this indirectly make George Bush the new Saddam Hussein? He watches it happen. He started this war. He has blood on his hands.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:58 pmand the kicks keep gettin’ harder to find…
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:59 pmA stupid, right wing moron on this thread claimed that Iraqi civilian deaths have gone down during the surge. In fact, the deaths have DOUBLED during the surge. Visit this link for proof…
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ eandp/ news/ article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003631296
Comment by corsair
They can’t and won’t visit that website. It is not on their RNC approved list of websites like the weekly standard and other right wing shill msm. Or, if they were to go there, they would say that it is all lefty propaganda.
Their projection is stunning.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:59 pmBob = Mr P. = Israeli Operative
Comment by ace — September 3, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Nice work, ace. You just gave Mr Pee an orgasm.
This is a guy who never leaves his mom’s basement and you just declared him a Mossad agent. You’re delusional.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:00 pmOpen your eyes people. Of course Bush wants this ethnic cleansing to take place. It’s part of the New World Order strategy to reduce the world’s population for the power elite’s own greedy financial gain.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:01 pmSpeaking of financial gain, while I was spending my one year tour of duty in lovely Iraq, I could only think of one reason as to why we are there….oil….big duh, right? Think about it. THe first excuse was “the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 are there.” Not true. Afghanistan,Syria or Saudia Arabia? Maybe. (This is if you don’t believe that 9/11 was an inside job). Then it was the whole WMD thing. Another lie. Then the excuse was to get rid of Saddam and his government. Taken care of. And now it is to make sure that the Iraqis can get their own government started. That’s happened as well. So where does that leave us? Occupying a nation with some of the richest oil fields in the world is where. Add to this the fact that the govenment is is considering building an oil pipeline from the Middle East to Europe and have ships transport the oil to the U.S.
And of course we have to have somebody there to protect this “commodity” .
Another less obvious reason for our occupation of Iraq is this whole Iran issue. We’ll have to stay tuned for that one although not for too long as this issue will be coming to a head sooner than we like.
Why don’t you want to hear the truth?
Comment by AVGVSTVS
He does want to hear the truth. He doesn’t want to hear the right wing’s version of truth. You wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you on the head like a two-by-four.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:01 pmThis Toilet-Paper hate-site is so virulent towards the US military, as based on its misuse of anti-US soldier “news†sources like MSNBC and its plan to disguise its hatred of the troops by blaming Bush. What TP did incorrectly, to begin with, is reference MSNBC for ANYTHING related to Iraq. TP must guiltily know that MSNBC is so anti-US soldiers that it employed military slanderer William Arkin who derogated US troops as mercenaries! How dare Toilet Paper abuse MSNBC as a source when MSNBC has been exposed time and time again for spreading hateful propaganda against the military. Secondly, TP misconceives the MSNBC article since Bush’s surge is meant to stop only civilian attacks, which the article ADMITS are down. Bush or the US military can’t well be held accountable for the uncivilized, beastly Shiites and Sunnis continuing to ethnically cleanse each other, can they? Of course not!
Comment by USmilitarycursedbyUSprogressives — September 3, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
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Yep.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:02 pmUSmilitarycursedbyUSprogressives:
Ok, Mr. Troll. Here is your challenge. Post links to people on this site in any way blaming the soldiers on the ground for the mess that is Iraq. I dare you.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:06 pmYep.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Nope.
Iraqi civilian deaths DOUBLED during the Bush surge. See link for proof…
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003631296
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:09 pmI dare you.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/02/boustany-iraq/#comment-4053965
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:12 pmDubya Administration = Thugs of a Crime Family = Clueless
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:12 pmThe Progressives are the ones who SUPPORT the military, and the Rapeublic Neocons HATE them.
We KNEW that TRAITOR Bush was LYING about Iraq and letting Bin Laden, the 9/11 Saudi mastermind, go.
We didn’t want the US soldiers to go to an ILLEGAL WAR of AGGRESSION based on Bush’s LIES.
WAR CRIMINAL Bush is a TRAITOR to the USA, as are his supporters.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:13 pmChristopher Bollyn NAILS IT:
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/3305
Arnon Milchan – Mossad’s Man In The Middle
Is this who ran the entire “News” disinformation program in real time on 9/11?
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:13 pmComment by corsair — September 3, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
You forgot this part:
“This year’s U.S. troop buildup has succeeded in bringing violence in Baghdad down from peak levels”
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:15 pm#
Comment by corsair — September 3, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
You forgot this part:
“This year’s U.S. troop buildup has succeeded in bringing violence in Baghdad down from peak levelsâ€
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
As soon as the last Arab is killed, it will be real quiet.
1. “There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy.” Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001
2. “The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more”…. Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time – August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
3. ” [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs.” Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, “Begin and the Beasts”. New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
4. “The Palestinians” would be crushed like grasshoppers … heads smashed against the boulders and walls.” ” Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
5. “When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle.” Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
6. “How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to.” Golda Maier, March 8, 1969.
7. “There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed.” Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969
8. “The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war.” Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha’aretz, 19 March 1972.
9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): “If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti – Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
10. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : “We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return.” Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. “The old will die and the young will forget.”
11. “We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.” Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.
12. “Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” – Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI’s cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)
13. “We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel… Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours.” Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces – Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:18 pmBush supporters don’t seem to mind ethnic cleansing – they would “cleanse” America of dissenters, non-Christians, and anyone who doesn’t fit into the “Stepford” molds they prefer.
BTW, Bush is meeting with militia members in Anbar Province – weren’t our troops FIGHTING those members of the militia a few weeks ago?
Bush declares anyone he doesn’t like as an “enemy” and deprives them of the privilege of speaking to him — but in order to garner any vestige of support for his misbegotten war in Iraq, he meets with the enemy on the ground.
Is it any wonder that we can’t make any real headway in Iraq — who is the enemy of the week?.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:18 pmMaliki was once “in” and now he’s “out.”
Chalabi was “in” then “out” then “in” again.
Isn’t this how Orwell told us things were in “1984″?
Bush or the US military can’t well be held accountable for the uncivilized, beastly Shiites and Sunnis continuing to ethnically cleanse each other, can they? Of course not!
Comment by USmilitarycursedbyUSprogressive
Bush most certainly can be held accountable. He chose to invade a soverigen nation. he chose to ignore the warnings of general schienski who said that we would win the war, but would need 250,00 to 300,000 soldiers to win the peace (add up the troops on the ground plus the “contracters” and you have 225,000 or so, and things are still out of control), he chose to ignore 1994 dick cheney, who said invading Iraq would be a quagmire, he ignored the state dept contigency plans to govern post war Iraq, and so on. bush is a war criminal, and you are a fool. and you are a coward.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:18 pmI dare you.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:19 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/02/boustany-iraq/#comment-4053965
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
Wow, violence in Baghdad is down from “peak” levels, eh? Is that the best kernel of optimism you got?
WASHINGTON – The Bush administration routinely has underreported the level of violence in Iraq in order to disguise its policy failings, the Iraq Study Group report said Wednesday.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1207-05.htm
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:19 pmBy the way, the summer time always shows a decline from peak levels. People commit fewer acts of violence when it’s 110 degrees outside.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:21 pm“This year’s U.S. troop buildup has succeeded in bringing violence in Baghdad down from peak levelsâ€
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
Baghdad /= Iraq
Pay attention, Mr Pee. The troop buildup in *BAGHDAD* lowered the violence in *BAGHDAD*. So all the people who had been blowing people up in *BAGHDAD* have moved out into the countryside and continued to kill civilians.
That’s in the second half of the very sentence you quoted. Either you can’t read that many words at one time without dozing off, or you’re completely dishonest, even with yourself.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:22 pmComment by AVGVSTVS
From a colunm by Glenn Greenwald: [. . .] Psychology Professor Bob Altemeyer, in his book The Authoritarians (.pdf), has provided the definitive account of the psychological impulses driving right-wing followers:
A high [right-wing authoritarian] can have all sorts of illogical, self-contradictory and widely refuted ideas rattling around in various boxes in his brain, and never notice it. . . .
Research reveals that authoritarian followers drive through life under the influence of impaired thinking a lot more than most people do, exhibiting sloppy reasoning, highly compartmentalized beliefs, double standards, hypocrisy, self-blindness, a profound ethnocentrism, and — to top it all off — a ferocious dogmatism that makes it unlikely anyone could ever change their minds with evidence or logic.
That describes “P” to a “T.”
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:22 pmI dare you.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:23 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/02/boustany-iraq/#comment-4053965
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
In reading above posts, I see a lot of people have the same impression of Bush&Co. Bush is not opposed to ethnic cleansing – as long as the cleansing is of his liking.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:23 pmI dare you.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 09/ 02/ boustany-iraq/ #comment-4053965
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
That’s not an example of TPers blaming the troops for Bush’s defeat in Iraq.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:24 pm14. “We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return” David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar’s Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
15. “We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai.” David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.
16. “We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.” Israel Koenig, “The Koenig Memorandum”
17. “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.
18. “We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out!’” Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
19. Rabin’s description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. “We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters” Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion’s special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From “The Arabs in Israel” by Sabri Jiryas.
20. “There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. [I] tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:…the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish…with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary.” Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency’s Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.
21. “Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours… Everything we don’t grab will go to them.” Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
22. “It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.” Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.
23. “Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment… Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly.” Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
24. “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” — Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]
25. “We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.” (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).
26. “We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not…You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world.” (Chaim Weizmann, Published in “Judische Rundschau,” No. 4, 1920)
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:25 pmComment by AVGVSTVS —
That post could be you for all we know, P.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:26 pmPost links to people on this site in any way blaming the soldiers on the ground for the mess that is Iraq. I dare you.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/02/boustany-iraq/#comment-4053965
bilbo,
YOU LOSE!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:26 pmTP attracts every imaginable full blown nutter from conspiracy 9/11 freaks to alien space invaders.
Comment by Bob — September 3, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
which are you, Boob?
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:26 pmgive it up, p… and quit acting like a 2yr old while you at it…
that is NOT an example of “people on this site in any way blaming the soldiers on the ground for the mess that is Iraq.”
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:27 pm…
“bilbo,
YOU LOSE!!!”
Actually, no. That post could be you.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:28 pmUh, Bob…
You’d actually have to be “nuts” not to recognize the Conspiracy.
The Conspiracy Theorists have been proven correct.
We were lied into a war (occupation) of choice as a direct response to a false flag attack. The majority of Americans now see it for what it is.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:29 pmComment by katy — September 3, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
WRONG!!!!!!! Wake up, you traitors!!!!!!!!
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/02/boustany-iraq/#comment-4053965
FROM THE COMMENT:
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:29 pm
That post could be you.
Comment by barfly — September 3, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
Or it could be you, but it wasn’t either of us. It was a TP, far-left, kook-fringe, traitorous, moonbat, like bilbobaggins!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:31 pmComment by mystery guest —
Prove it’s not you, clown.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:31 pm“Every conversation monitored under Bush’s warrantless domestic surveillance program is a missed opportunity to get someone who is talking with terrorists off the streets and behind bars.
Why? Because evidence obtained by Bush’s warrantless domestic spying program is probably not admissible in court. Convictions obtained with evidence from this program may be overturned.â€
STOP RIGHT THERE! THINK.
Clearly the Bush Administration knew that to be true. So what EVIDENCE do you have that Bush actually wants potential terrorists prosecuted? How many terrorists have been CONVICTED AND SENTENCED since 9/11?
Do the math folks. Think like a criminal. The clearest explanation is often right under your nose. False flag terrorism is a TACTIC of the Mossad and the CIA. The terrorists are merely doing the bidding of this administration and their surrogates. Any actual TRIAL with TV CAMERAS and EVIDENCE would blow their entire operation.
If they really want to arrest AND CONVICT terrorists, they would absolutely follow the letter of the law. They CHOSE not to. Coincidence? NOT!
What more do you need to know?
http://www.countercurrents.org/usa-hassan050405.htm
Let’s start out with a recap of some highly disturbing events in this country, as reported by a mainstream newspaper on the United States in August of 2005:
http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15114089&BRD=1672&PAG=461&dept_id=33380&rfi=6
Now can you help me out with a plausible explanation for this:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
And this official DEA report:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/deareportisraelispying.html
A counterintelligence investigation by the FBI concluded that at least two of them were in fact Mossad operatives, according to the former American official, who said he was regularly briefed on the investigation by two separate law enforcement officials.
“The assessment was that Urban Moving Systems was a front for the Mossad and operatives employed by it,” he said. “The conclusion of the FBI was that they were spying on local Arabs but that they could leave because they did not know anything about 9/11.”
However, he added, the bureau was “very irritated because it was a case of so-called unilateral espionage, meaning they didn’t know about it.”
Spokesmen for the FBI, the Justice Department and the Immigration and Naturalization Service refused to discuss the case. Israeli officials flatly dismissed the allegations as untrue.
However, the former American official said that after American authorities confronted Jerusalem on the issue at the end of last year, the Israeli government acknowledged the operation and apologized for not coordinating it with Washington.
The five men — Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Oded Ellner, Omer Marmari and Yaron Shmuel — were arrested eight hours after the attacks by the Bergen County, N.J., police while driving in an Urban Moving Systems van.
‘A Scary Situation’ Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients’ actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. “You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They’re speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on ‘em. One’s got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that’s a scary situation.”
While many have denied these events occurred, note these Mainstream Media accounts:
Since their arrest, plenty of speculation has swirled about the case, and what the five men were doing that morning. Eventually, The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.
Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities’ interest in the case was heightened when some of the men’s names were found in a search of a national intelligence database.
Israeli Intelligence Connection?
According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence. Cannistraro said there was speculation as to whether Urban Moving had been “set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists in the area, particularly in the New Jersey-New York area.”
According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:
“We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem.”
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:31 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 09/ 02/ boustany-iraq/ #comment-4053965
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
AVGUSTVS never could stomach the truth. Truth isn’t slander.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:31 pmTP attracts every right wing nutter from the WMD conspiracy theorists to the peddlers of a Saddam/Qaeda “relationship” to the nutballs that think al-Qaeda is the main force for violence in Iraq to the idiots who forgave Bush for surrendering to Osama bin Laden, who is still at large. But we “found the weapons of mass destruction,” right retards? Hannity says so! LMFAO!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:32 pmPost links to people on this site in any way blaming the soldiers on the ground for the mess that is Iraq. I dare you.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/02/boustany-iraq/#comment-4053965
FROM THE COMMENT:
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:32 pm
According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.
The men all underwent at least two polygraph tests each, the lawyer added. He said one of the Israelis took the test seven times, a very unusual total according to several polygraph experts interviewed by the Forward. All failed their tests.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/11/dancing-israelis-on-911.html
What did Ken Lay know and when did he know it?
When Lay was on the stand and under oath, wouldn’t it have been great fun to ask him all about his meetings with George Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney prior to 9/11?
Wouldn’t it be great to ask him if the faux California Energy Crisis which his company manufactured just prior to the 2000 elections was actually a scheme cooked up by he and Poppie Bush to compel Americans to install some oil experts in the White House? But what was to be Lay’s reward? After all, he was GW’s largest contributor and best friend of Poppie Bush. Poppie never planned on Enron going bust, and that’s when things started to fall apart.
Wouldn’t if be nice to learn the details of how Lay and Cheney were divvying up the oil fields in Iraq on a big map, even before 9/11?
Wouldn’t it be enlightening to hear that Lay knew for a fact that 9/11 was going to happen as the pretext for the war plan which he clearly had knowledge of prior to 9/11?
Why would you sit around countless energy planning meetings dividing up the oil fields of Iraq in advance of 9/11 unless there were a plan in place to make it possible?
Such a plan would by necessity be a war plan, and this war plan was actually in place prior to 9/11.
Surely any good war plan requires at its core a starting point, a trigger if you will that provides a good “cover story” to implement it. Clearly you can’t just go around invading countries without a good reason…you need to be attacked first, then retaliate.
Was 9/11 simply part of the war plan?
Why wouldn’t it have been?
You can’t hit the “GO” button without a pretext.
9/11 was the pretext for the invasion of the Middle East – all by design.
CAN YOU SAY COVERUP?
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:32 pmAce, nobody’s going to read the book you uploaded. Keep it short. People will ignore annoyingly long posts. Boil it down into a few sentences, then give a link.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:33 pmPost links to people on this site in any way blaming the soldiers on the ground for the mess that is Iraq. I dare you.
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/02/boustany-iraq/#comment-4053965
FROM THE COMMENT:
WHERE ARE YOU, BILBO!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:33 pmShites and sunnis are starting to work together now. The surge has been a huge success. Harry Reid is going to compromise on the Iraq war because it is going so well. Bush would not be in Iraq if it were going poorly. The surge is working.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:34 pmGo home AVGVSTVS
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:35 pmYou are talking to yourself.
Fuk you, dildofaggins!
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:35 pmCorsair:
Rove and his ilk count on people like you insisting that all Americans are only capable of absorbing sound bites. Conspiracies this vast require voluminous documentation. Discouraging this information from being published does not serve to reveal the truth. Only connect all of the dots – in context, can.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:36 pmI predict Bush will declare victory around April and start the trek out of Iraq. We are going to hear all kinds of rosey descriptions of Iraq over the next 18 months. Bush is paying Sunnis not to attack our troops. Fine, that’s good. It means we can start the orderly withdrawal. Basra will be labeled a “success story” even while the Baghdad government has no authority there. Fine with me. Let’s declare victory anyway and LEAVE. We got into Iraq based on a lie. We will GET OUT of Iraq based on a lie.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:37 pmbarfly was too cowardly to serve in the military.
Comment by Dan Through — September 3, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
Like Cheney? Perle? Wolfowitz? Kristol? Bush? Rice? Fleischer? You?
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:38 pmFuk you, dildofaggins!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
I’m melting! I’m melting!
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 pmIt’s a chat board, ace, not a college seminar. If you think a lot of people are reading your books here, then by all means enjoy the delusion. If you can’t summarize your points in a few sentences, along with a link for more info, then I won’t read your stuff.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 pmMy Lai was a good start.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:40 pmComment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
I’m melting! I’m melting!
Comment by pee — September 3, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
Must be the climate warming thread
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:41 pmMy Lai was a good start.
Comment by pee — September 3, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
Good start at what?
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:44 pmjeez, corsair, he IS condensing it… obviously!
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:45 pmdon’t like it, step around it…
TP will probably delete it all too soon anyway…
if you were smart, you’d copy/paste what you can, now…
…
and, actually, it’s NOT a “chat” board…
there are those, this ain’t it…
although, i do admit there are times… late nights… slow days…
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:47 pmah well…
…
Fuk you, dildofaggins!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Now there’s the infantile P we’ve all come to know.
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:52 pmNow there’s the infantile P we’ve all come to know.
Comment by barfly — September 3, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Some things never change!
September 3rd, 2007 at 5:55 pmIn early 2003, a staffer was telling W about the Sunni-Shiite conflict. Bush looked confused and said “I thought they were all Muslim!”.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:00 pmIn early 2003, a staffer was telling W about the Sunni-Shiite conflict. Bush looked confused and said “I thought they were all Muslim!â€.
Comment by Keith — September 3, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
In fairness to the boy king most of our jingoistic zenophobic population suffers the same. Why talk about globalism when we can’t comphrehend the globe?
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:04 pmWAR .. how American’s learn geography ;)
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:10 pmLet’s never forget Bush Sr’s phrase on New World Order… here is proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CWBTL33MpA
And from the decider posted first by another TP poster:
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:12 pmhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=Ypa75axdK6o
…
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:28 pmwe’ve got the assemblies, the baptists, the catholics, the charismatics, the christs, the lds’, the episcopals, the fundies, the lutherans, the methodists, the pentocostals, the presbyterians, the rlds’, the uniteds…
and that’s just in MY little town…
…
History will show American troops occupied Iraq while genocide took place under their noses. It’s arrogant for Americans to assume a mindless 160,000 troops can prevent the slaughter and turmoil in Iraq.
Comment by corsair
Our military merely follows orders….
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:30 pmWe must get control of our country, We the People, to stop the insanity and ensure history will be written properly. And to stop the insanity, somehow we must over ride what the corporate mainstream media tells the masses….It is getting to be one slow creeping corporate take over.
The immature boy is at is again.
“Mommy, Mommy, he hurt my feelings. Wah!!! Wahh! Waaaah!!”
Poor, baby.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:32 pmFuk you, dildofaggins!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
What the hell is this? Does this warrant Jake’s ignore list?
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:38 pmImagine the horror that would take place if the U.S. weren’t there…
Those Iraqis should be thanking their lucky stars that America is protecting them!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
You are so full of crap…
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:53 pmIt was one thing to do Shock and Awe… remember that – MSM entertained the masses on cable TV while the Bush thugs excitedly and gleefully presented this to the public….This slaughter, dropping of 4,000 bombs in 48 hours on Baghdad a population half under the age of 16, children…And they knew this mass murder was over lies.
When that was over, the people of Iraq begged Bush to allow them to rebuild their country… said they could do it pennies on the dollar. Anyone with a brain knows to bring peace and tranquility to a country is good paying jobs… That did not happen.. I wonder why.
All this looks like genocide to me.
Anyone with a brain knows to bring peace and tranquility to a country is good paying jobs… That did not happen.. I wonder why
Comment by had enough — September 3, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
To find out why…google “the great Iraq swindle”
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:58 pmAnother thing to remember, just like on the 60 Minutes report (repeat) tonight, is that our troops are probably killing many citizens when invading homes (thank you George Bush for blessing the Iraqi home) and then just blaming it on sectarian violence or the #1 boogyman, Al Quida.
Just a hunch.
Comment by mystery guest — September 2, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
Comment by AVGVSTVS
How about linking to anything posted by someone other than a “mystery guest”. Since the RNC has lately been sending posters to places like TP to post inflammatory posts, claiming to be progressives, so that they can point to those posts to say that liberal blogs are attacking the troops.
So, your challenge is to post a link to any regular poster on this site, not someone who anonymously posts once, who has ever attacked our troops and not the people who have sent them there and told them what to do.
And in case you didn’t notice, even the quote you linked to didn’t blame the troops, it blamed Bush.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 09/ 02/ boustany-iraq/ #comment-4053965
bilbo,
YOU LOSE!!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
No, you lose, unless you can link to a regular poster on TP. Linking to an anonymous once time poster, who could very well be you or any of the other trolls here, doesn’t cut it.
Link to a post where any regular poster on this site has blamed the troops for what is going on in Iraq.
No plants…no cheating.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:59 pmComment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
Okay, dickhead.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/03/bushs-surge-escalated-ethnic-cleansing/#comment-4055031
It’s arrogant for Americans to assume a mindless 160,000 troops can prevent the slaughter and turmoil in Iraq.
Comment by corsair — September 3, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
Oh, and by the way, you said:
You really are shithead, dildo.
Again…
Fuk you, dildofaggins!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:00 pmWHERE ARE YOU, BILBO!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Bilbo was working in the yard. Bilbo is back now so where are you. Why can’t you link to a post by someone who posts here regularly? Can’t find one, thought so.
You lose!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:03 pmAgain…
Fuk you, dildofaggins!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Same to you dick for brains. Again, the link you posted was not a link to anyone here blaming the troops. All it says is that American troops occupied Iraq. Now how do you suppose they got there? Did they decide to go themselves or were they sent by the Bush Crime Family?
You still lose dickhead. That post was not blaming the troops, it just stated that they were there. They have no choice since Bush is insisting that they stay there until either they are all killed or the military is so broken it couldn’t even protect us if we were threatened here at home.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pmComment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
Uh, no.
Look at the post above you, idiot.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pmComment by bilbogaggins — September 3, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
Fagboy,
You lose, you support traitors, and your Islamo-Stalinism is here for all to see!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmFagboy,
You lose, you support traitors, and your Islamo-Stalinism is here for all to see!!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
What is really here for all to see is your homophobia and your emotional instability. A scared little boy, hiding under the covers and screaming about the monsters under the bed — the mythical Islamo-stalinists.
Look out, Mr pee, the boogieman is here!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 pmLook out, Mr pee, the boogieman is here!
Comment by gummitch
Can we finally, totally, ignore this stupid p*ssy?
Please, quit responding to the 8th grade Beavis wannabe.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 pmBusho-fascism is on the rise.
-GSD
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:27 pmWhat is really here for all to see is your homophobia and your emotional instability. A scared little boy, hiding under the covers and screaming about the monsters under the bed — the mythical Islamo-stalinists.
Look out, Mr pee, the boogieman is here!
Comment by gummitch — September 3, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
He murdered his ex-girlfriend, of course he’s a scared little boy. He’s a self loathing murderer, how could he be anything otherwise…
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 pmFagboy,
You lose, you support traitors, and your Islamo-Stalinism is here for all to see!!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
Is that what your ex-girlfriend called you before you murderd her? Because islamo-stalinism isn’t what you’re fighting, wingnut, that’s what your buddy Saddam was fighting when Ronnie Raygun sold him and Iran those WMDs.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 pm>This Toilet-Paper hate-site is so virulent towards the US military
Shut up hermphrodite Meagan. Everyone knows who you are now, I notice you stopped using so many parenthensis in your rambling anonymous rants once I called you out on it… go do something more productive, like bake some more burnt brownies for the troops and create more horrid photoshop collages of you next to men and animals, 2 things which normally wont let you anywhere near them…
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:36 pmYes, I am the mystery guest who posted what Augustus quoted. Yes, I am a semi regular poster under another name. No, I’m not a right winger sent here to make this blog look bad. Yes, I am a liberal. Yes, there is plenty of evidence that our soldiers have committed wrong doing, and I’m sure they’ve done even more that we will never hear about. Do you really think the Pentagon would reveal that to you. Will the reporters tell you? No. Even they don’t know because they can’t even leave their hotel or the Green Zone.
But ultimately all this blood and carnage is on the hands of Satan’s own–G. W. Bush and his regime and his bootlickers.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:57 am