Undercutting Bush’s claims of success in Anbar.
Undercutting Bush’s claims of success in Anbar.
Today, President Bush held the Anbar province up as an example of his escalation’s success and justification for why the troop buildup should not be cut short:
In Anbar you’re seeing firsthand the dramatic differences that can come when the Iraqis are more secure. … You see Sunnis who once fought side by side with al-Qaida against coalition troops now fighting side by side with coalition troops against al-Qaida.
But as the AP points out, “In truth, the progress in Anbar was initiated by the Iraqis themselves, a point Gates himself made, saying the Sunni tribes decided to fight and retake control from al-Qaida many months before Bush decided to send an extra 4,000 Marines to Anbar as part of his troop buildup.”
UPDATE: “Though Mr. Bush never left the confines of the air base on his six-hour visit, he declared: ‘I have come here today to see with our own eyes the remarkable changes that are taking place in Anbar Province.’”
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But But, it was the suRge, Dammit! Everybody knows that Dubya is a military genius.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:33 pmThe progress in Anbar claim has been debunked so often that it hardly qualifies as propaganda except to the really unwashed.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:34 pmHey Bob
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September 3rd, 2007 at 6:38 pmHey Bob
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Comment by Bob
Well hi there Bob.
HeyoooooooooOOOOOOOooooo to you too.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:40 pmLook’s like mr. pee’s meth rant has started.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:43 pmThe definition of “success” has been redifined again, and nobody noticed, not even TP.
Since when does Anbar Province define the success of the mission in Iraq?
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:48 pmIf you mean a side deal that underminds the central soveign government then yeah we are successful in interfering and undermining democracy.
Spin on water carriers. There is no quorom, THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:52 pmYou see Sunnis who once fought side by side with al-Qaida against coalition troops now fighting side by side with coalition troops against al-Qaida.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:53 pmLoyal Reformed Terrorists…
The surge is kicking ass.
Comment by Blair — September 3, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
versus
But as the AP points out, “In truth, the progress in Anbar was initiated by the Iraqis themselves, a point Gates himself made, saying the Sunni tribes decided to fight and retake control from al-Qaida many months before Bush decided to send an extra 4,000 Marines to Anbar as part of his troop buildup.â€
Somebody is either as dumb as a Dubya or just being a total Cheney.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:53 pmBut as the AP points out, “In truth, the progress in Anbar was initiated by the Iraqis themselves,
good ol Associated Propaganda once again undercutting our troops and our country, they should be locked up!
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:58 pmPolice chief- Lockerbie evidence was faked : A FORMER Scottish police chief has given lawyers a signed statement claiming that key evidence in the Lockerbie bombing trial was fabricated. The retired officer – of assistant chief constable rank or higher – has testified that the CIA planted the tiny fragment of circuit board crucial in convicting a Libyan for the 1989 mass murder of 270 people. http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1855852005
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:01 pmBUCK FUSH!
Comment by GoTFreeDUMB?DUMBASS? — September 3, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
nice spelling there genius, it’s actually spelt
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:02 pmCLINTON DID IT, EXCEPT WHEN HE COULD HAVE PREVENTED 9/11
Boy, the Left is in full panic mode these days. They see the military situation in Iraq changing dramatically for the better and the concomitant polls showing increased American public optimism about the war and the thought that America might actually succeed in Iraq fills them with dismay.
But at least this posting shows that TP and its devotees are FINALLY admitting that we are fighting Al Qaeda over there. For the longest time, they have been denying that.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:03 pmThe progtarded zombies (who refuse to have an independent thought in their head, choosing instead to subserviently parrot the BS the AP and TP feed them) are in need of severe education and disabusing. For one, ANYTHING the AP fabricates in its totally slanted opinion pieces disguised as news is not credible; this is because the AP, like TP, is rooting for a US loss and a win for terrorists. Secondly, all the progtards here who seriously believed the TP spin of “undercutting” Bush’s claim of success in Anbar SHOULD’VE READ THE LINKED ARTICLE. In it, Gates is quoted as saying “that it was the presence of the additional U.S. forces – the Marines that came in – that helped cement the gains they felt they had made but were at risk.” So, pathologically deceptive Toilet Paper hate-site is mortified again for doctoring the true conception of Gates’ meaning via their omission to mention this Gates quote! Without the US military, Iraqis in Anbar wouldn’t have had the morale to take on Al-Qaeda.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:04 pm> Police chief- Lockerbie evidence was faked
Yeah. Amazing, huh? So Robert vFisk was right all along – it wasn’t the Lybians at all, but most probably a retaliation of the PFLP-GC for the downing of an Iranian Airbus by Robocruiser, aka. USS Vincennes. Punk ship.
But admitting that would have made for a huffy Iran, blowing chances for Gulf War I.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:06 pmFor the longest time, they have been denying that.
There is hope for peace here in the world, as long as the extreme left stop trying to divide us here at home all the time.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:06 pmDoes anyone really give a flying f*ck what the smirking chimp-in-chief says?
The sycophat wh*res would believe anything he says, and the other 70% have been come to understand that anything that oozes out of his mouth is a lie.
The worst pResident, the most evil man we will ever see. Truly a disugsting puke.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:06 pmComment by chingebush — September 3, 2007 @ 7:06 pm
yah but at least for a Christian nation like the US he is a better fit as leader than previous president.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:08 pmExley …We have been fighting Al Qaeda over there, after the looting started . AFTER.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:09 pmThey constitute a small percentage of the insurgency…and their main victums have been Iraqis…Shiites in particular. Majority Shiites in particular. That’s why the al QAnbar sunni’s want them gone.
Love this guy. He’s been to iraq like how many times now, two or three. Never has there been a president of the US who has traveled in a war torn country to see and boost the morale of the troops. He even suggested a troop drawdown.
Take that you violence prone, military hatin’ libs!
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:11 pm#19 … Nice catch. A blatantly dishonest and misleading posting by TP. They don’t expect anyone to read the actual article. Instead, they distort (and let’s face it, lie about) what the article actully says and then hope nobody notices….Nice job catching them in their dishonesty.
“We have seen the fruit of that effort become more apparent in the last few months,” Gates said. In their meeting with Bush here, the local Sunni sheiks were explicit, however, he added, “that it was the presence of the additional U.S. forces – the Marines that came in – that helped cement the gains they felt they had made but were at risk.”
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:12 pmRobert Burns himself busts TP’s twisted version of what was happening in Anbar as recently as April. The tribal Sunnis were “cooperating” while the US forces were clearing AQ extremists and holding secured areas well before surge reinforcements arrived.
Robert Burns reports April 9, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/09/AR2007040900775.html
“The new cooperation has enabled U.S. forces in recent months to clear extremist elements from even the most violent areas, including Ramadi, and to put more Iraqi forces on the streets, Conway was told. Cooperation by the sheiks also has quickly created a Sunni police force in areas where none existed before.”
TP marginalize the pre-surge 25,000 Marines that were engaging and killing AQ terrorists with the help of the Anbar Sunnis, claims Marines weren’t there. This is just another viscious TP smear against the US military. Yet they say they support the troops. Lying about the efforts of our military is stange way to show you support.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:15 pmBadger,
I understand what you are saying, but Al Qaeda is by far the perpetrators of the deadliest attacks against Iraqi civilains (just as they perpetrated the deadliest attack on U.S. citizens ever nearly six years ago)…So, of course, it is great that the Sunnis have finally realized the deal with the devil they made when they allied themselves with Al Qaeda….But as the AP article reports (and TP dishonestly omitted) those Sunnis also say the successes they have had against Al Qaeda can only be sustained with the help of the U.S.
That is not an argument for a Harry Reid-like surrender. It is an argument to continue the effort to destroy Al Qaeda in Iraq.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:18 pmExley..the truth is that the el Anbar Shieks, who had been attacking american troops for years, wanted to make a deal…and Gen. Petraeus was smart enough to take it. The tragedy , is the four years before a general with some common sense and not ideology took control.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:20 pmThe success against al Qaeda in al Anbar will not translate well to other parts of Iraq…like Basra and Kirkuk…that’s a problem.
#22,
Well-said, Steed.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:20 pm> “The new cooperation has enabled U.S. forces in recent months to clear
> extremist elements from even the most violent areas, including Ramadi,
> and to put more Iraqi forces on the streets, Conway was told. Cooperation
> by the sheiks also has quickly created a Sunni police force in areas where
> none existed before.â€
That’s because “extremist elements” and “police forces” are clearly separate
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmand both agree to wear clothes with differing colors. Honest.
#20 What a history Retard.
Never has there been a president of the US who has traveled in a war torn country to see and boost the morale of the troops.
Comment by redneck, redstate
As if FDR didn’t visit with the troops in Europe or president Johnson in Vietnam???
What an assclown. Spin away water carrier. There is no quorom and no government.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmHow sad it must be to be Mr. Pee. He has no friends so he spends all day blogging. And then his favorite pastime is antagonizing and irritating others.
Very, very sad.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmUndercutting Bush’s claims of success in Anbar.
Not at all true, TP, Gates said the exact opposite. As the plan has always been to have the Iraqis step up for themselves with the help of U.S. forces, Gates says (from the very same article that you quote):
Nice try, TP.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:22 pm.
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Comment by Bob — September 3, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
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Comment by Bob — September 3, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
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September 3rd, 2007 at 7:23 pm“The success against al Qaeda in al Anbar will not translate well to other parts of Iraq…like Basra and Kirkuk…that’s a problem.”
Comment by Badger — September 3, 2007 @ 7:20 pm
Badger,
Why would you say that? Anbar province was considered one of the most difficult and “unwinnable” areas in Iraq. We know see that is not true. To paraphrase a certain song, if we can make it there, we can make it anywhere in Iraq — including Basra and Kirkuk.
And I join with you in wishing we had empoyed the successful tactics of today much, much earlier. But again, that is not an argument for surrendering just as we are finally getting the counterinsurgency strategy and tactics right over there.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:25 pmLeave it to Bush to use someone else’s success and try to make it his own.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:25 pmYea right everything is going swell. Meanwhile, the Iraqi deaths continue to go up and there still is no political reconciliation in sight. The Righties just can’t give it up. They just want to save face when the facts point to a surge failure. The surge has not and will not bring the success The Chimp-in-Chief said it would. Please open your eyes.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:26 pmWe know see that is not true. To paraphrase a certain song, if we can make it there, we can make it anywhere in Iraq — including Basra and Kirkuk.
Comment by Exley — September 3, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
I think the whole point is that WE didn’t make it there. The Iraqis made it happen for themselves. Then we sent more troops in.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:27 pm18),20) and 22) Mommy and daddy’s attempt at home-schooling didn’t include any history or geography of the middle east, I see. Before you go calling on sites where you don’t understand the topic, it’s wise to read and observe because you are blissfully stupid.
This whole “field trip” for Chimpy was carefully planned 6 weeks ago and it was designated to coincide with Betrayus’ report that will be delivered to El Chimpo when he gets back from Austraila. I don’t buy a word that he is saying. I haven’t listened to him since Katrina hit and he ignored it.
The site you can visit to check about the plans for his trip and interview with Katie Couric is http://www.TVNEWSER.com.
But if I were the 3 stooges that I referenced above, why don’t you all run over to Pat Robertson’s or Michelle Malkin’s “Hot Air” and post your little ignorant snarky comments.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:28 pmWhy would you say that? Anbar province was considered one of the most difficult and “unwinnable†areas in Iraq. We know see that is not true. To paraphrase a certain song, if we can make it there, we can make it anywhere in Iraq — including Basra and Kirkuk.
Comment by Exley — September 3, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
Exley, Anbar is not a microcosm of Iraq. The area is almost entirely Sunni Arab now, with virtually all of the Shi’a and Kurds having fled. It’s tribal, and one of the major tribes broke with Al’qaedi in Iraq (which is not Al’qaedi, incidentally) and began fighting on the side of the US because they were fed up with the fundamentalists.
In other words, there are no ethnic conflicts to speak of in the region and the success is not so much a success of the US military effort as a failure of Al’qaedi in Iraq’s effort.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:36 pmComment by sconset — September 3, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
its that we’re right your wrong mentality of the left thats made such a mess of things domestically, there is NO middle ground with you extremists and it’s destroying our country!
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:36 pmah but at least for a Christian nation like the US he is a better fit as leader than previous president.
Comment by Jugger
Yeah, bush has all the morals of Ted haggert alright. Aren’t you late for your date in the men’s room jughead?
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:38 pm#34 dlet,
“The Iraqis made it happen for themselves. Then we sent more troops in.”
Well, that’s not exactly 100% correct, dlet. As Steed points out, back in April, Burns was reporting that the Sunni Iraqis disgust with Al Qaeda’s savagery was causing them to cooperate more and more with the U.S. military, even as the surge was just beginning.
But regardless, the Iraqis turning against Al Qaeda is a good thing. The ultimate goal is to have the Iraqis do their own fighting. That has always been the goal. So, having Sunnis turning against Al Qaeda is an encouraging development towards achievement of one of our keys goals.
But, as today’s AP story makes clear, while the Sunni Iraqis may be turning against Al Qaeda, they cannot as yet sustain their gains against the terrorists without U.S. military support.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:39 pmits that we’re right your wrong mentality of the left thats made such a mess of things domestically, there is NO middle ground with you extremists and it’s destroying our country!
Comment by Jugger
Care to make an actual point or are you just going to continue to scream at the mirror?
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:40 pmI just love how all these Bush CULTISTS support his war, but REFUSE to serve in it…..
You a$$es are nothing but chicken$hits that would run faster than Forest Gump, and don’t have the BALLS to actually support your stance in the physical form…….
You PU$$IES are nothing but COWARDS and you deserve to be standing right next to Bush when he is finally tried for his war crimes and shot.
I’m so tires of YOU lying Republicans!!!!! You a$$es can’t do anything with STEALING, LYING, OR CHEATING!!!! That is a FACT!!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:40 pmAren’t you late for your date in the men’s room jughead?
Comment by Bobwurst — September 3, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
Again, you illustrate my point of the lefts intolerance to different approaches or opinions, except instead of just “we’re right, you’re wrong” mentality you’ve included the left’s penchant for juvenile name calling, why? because you have nothing better to add to the discussion…pathetic really.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:40 pmIn other words, there are no ethnic conflicts to speak of in the region and the success is not so much a success of the US military effort as a failure of Al’qaedi in Iraq’s effort.
Comment by gummitch — September 3, 2007 @ 7:36 pm
Once that ethnic cleansing is finished, there’s not much to fight about anymore, is there?
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:41 pmWell, that’s not exactly 100% correct, dlet.
It might not be 100% correct…but either is this statement.
if we can make it there, we can make it anywhere in Iraq — including Basra and Kirkuk.
Just sayin…
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:41 pm“You a$$es can’t do anything with STEALING, LYING, OR CHEATING!!!! That is a FACT!!!!
Comment by RemoveBush — September 3, 2007 @ 7:40 pm”
TYPO……
Should read……
You a$$ses can’t do anything without …..
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:43 pm“The ultimate goal is to have the Iraqis do their own fighting. That has always been the goal.
Exley”
Actualy the original goal was to stop Saddam from attacking us with his WMD. It was only after that lie was exposed that bush decided to create a democracy out of the mess he made.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:43 pmComment by RemoveBush — September 3, 2007 @ 7:40 pm
wow, the juvenile name calling meter just blew past the red line with that comment…bravo good sir, bravo.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:44 pm“The ultimate goal is to have the Iraqis do their own fighting. That has always been the goal.
Exleyâ€
Then why did we invade in the first place?
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:45 pmLet’s get serious already or get out.
If this war is worth it, we should do it right. Not lean on an unlucky minority who happen to be in the military now. This is not what soldiers sign up for. In addition to the nearly 4000 US soldiers dead and counting (let’s stop hiding the coffins already), lack of proper medical facilities and treatment for the wounded, unaddressed combat stress, suicide problems, and lack of proper gear and equipment, the downtime off also is being squeezed to a bare minimum to enable the government to send our soldiers off for redeployment before they’ve had adequate rest. Our military is so desperate that people in their 40s and 50s have been called up for Guard Duty, multiple times no less. The situation is so bad that military recruiters have to resort to mercenary bonuses and still miss the numbers – some people are fighting for money, not for our country. The whole situation is so messed up. So rarely has so much been asked of so few.
So if we are serious about this war, we should do now what we should have done from the getgo. Fight it with enough troops. The original plan was for half a million. Going from 130,000 to a 180,000 surge just isn’t going to turn this thing. And it will needlessly break our soldiers’ backs in the process.
Get enough troops in there with a clear plan they can execute. Or get out. Stop pussyfooting around with our military. I don’t care whether it’s foreign countries who we should have got to go along with us in the first place (though it seems unlikely they will step into this situation now that our Fox Republican government has cheerled us into the current mess), or whether it’s a draft. Let’s do this thing the straight and honest way if it’s really worth doing. Maybe we need a permanent base there as the President really wants, even though he denied this for the longest time. Whatever the reason. Let the President lay it out.
Or let’s get out. Every day we stay more people die and we just delay the inevitable chaos when we leave anyway. Get the other countries in the Middle East to the table. Give them the timetable for our withdrawal. And let them start to work it out.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:46 pm“Again, you illustrate my point of the lefts intolerance to different approaches or opinions, except instead of just “we’re right, you’re wrong†mentality you’ve included the left’s penchant for juvenile name calling, why? because you have nothing better to add to the discussion…pathetic really.
Comment by Jugger”
And you Illlustrate my point that right wing koolaid drinkers don’t have any facts. You’ve posted nothing of substance on this entire thread. You’ve been rude condesending and insulting. When that comes back at you, you snivil and cry. try responding with a rational thought out comment you pompus babooon.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:47 pmGummitch,
I agree with you that Anbar is not a microcasm of Iraq. Its predominantly Sunni orientation mades it one of the most difficult areas to secure and an area most likely to provide safe haven to Al Qaeda, which is as you know a Sunni group.
Basra and Kirkuk, with their large Shiitte and Kurdish populations (respectively) make it far less likely that Al Qaeda can operate with impunity there and far more likely the local populace will cooperate with U.S. and Iraqi national government forces against Sunni-dominated Al Qaeda.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:48 pmJugger you are an ignoramous. You know nothing about Iraq or the Middle East. In fact you know as much as your hero Chimpy and that is why we are in this god awful mess.
As to my reasoning skills, one thing I am not (and this separates me by a wide margin from the Repukes) is a black or white situation person. I call it as I see it.
And what I have seen for the last 6 years are lies, lies and more damnable lies. I don’t live in a world of “group think” like you and your little friends do. I have worked on the Hill and my background is foreign affairs–so let’s say I have a bit of an advantage that you don’t–I studied and learned it and I kept an open mind (which you sadly lack).
I know why the trolls are on this site today!—It’s a national holiday and they didn’t get their daily dose of stupidity and hate from Limpballs and the great republican “thinker” “Little Seannie Hannity.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:48 pm“wow, the juvenile name calling meter just blew past the red line with that comment…bravo good sir, bravo.
Comment by Jugger — September 3, 2007 @ 7:44 pm”
There is a difference between “juvenile name calling” and FACTS…….
I could list hours worth of links that show all of the LIES, STEALING, and CHEATING the Republicans have done…….
How is CALLING A RAT a rat being “juvenile”?????
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:49 pmjugger,
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:51 pmlooks like substance is coolaid drinker, and you hurt my feelings because i’m stupid, based on bobwurst’s excelent post. if you have a point, ill call u a name, thats it.
Ignore jughead. he got one to many swirlies from the tough guys in the AV club and he suffered bain dramage.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:51 pmComment by RemoveBush — September 3, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
lol, there are more civilized yet scathing ways to get your point across, in fact trying to describe something or someone without using profanity but still getting your point across can have more impact than a tirade laced with four letter words…but me thinks this may be beyond your intelligence.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:52 pmWhy would you say that?
Comment by Exley — September 3, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
For the same reason that Blindsided Bush in Iraq….ethnic hostility.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:53 pmBasra is Shiite. They are friendly to Iran, support Sharia law, wanted the Brittish out of their country, and want America out of their country.
Kirkuk is oil rich, and the Kurds and the Sunnis both think they own it. The solution is a job for Solomon.
And once the Sunni Shieks kick the al Qaeda foreigners out of Iraq, will they want America out next.? Blowback is a b*tch.
Our enemy is Al Qaeda..that’s why it was such an enormous mistake to attack secular Iraq.
Jugger you are an ignoramous. … Chimpy … Repukes … trolls … Limpballs…
Comment by sconset — September 3, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
Well argued, doucher!
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 pmLeave it to Bush to use someone else’s success and try to make it his own.
Comment by dlet — September 3, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
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I think the whole point is that WE didn’t make it there. The Iraqis made it happen for themselves. Then we sent more troops in.
Comment by dlet — September 3, 2007 @ 7:27 pm
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that’s the way i understood this story also…
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 pm…
But regardless, the Iraqis turning against Al Qaeda is a good thing. The ultimate goal is to have the Iraqis do their own fighting. That has always been the goal. So, having Sunnis turning against Al Qaeda is an encouraging development towards achievement of one of our keys goals.
But, as today’s AP story makes clear, while the Sunni Iraqis may be turning against Al Qaeda, they cannot as yet sustain their gains against the terrorists without U.S. military support.
Comment by Exley — September 3, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Please be accurate. Al Qaeda is not in Iraq. The terrorists calling themselves “Al Qaeda in Iraq” are only loosely affiliated with OBL.
But to suggest that the goal has always been to have the Iraqis do their own fighting is absurd. Who were they supposed to be fighting, Exley? They were supposed to be greeting our troops with flowers, and cheerfully accepting whichever benign despot we imposed on them.
What do you think will happen if the tribes currently aligned with the US see our troops there for years? Do you seriously think they’re going to accept that?
It’s taken all this time to get to a stage where, maybe, the least populated, least-fractional province in Iraq has tilted toward a military success IF US troops stay there indefinitely. How can you spin this as a success for all of Iraq, or any real step toward ending the occupation?
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:55 pmWhat’s up, umbra?!
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:55 pm“lol, there are more civilized yet scathing ways to get your point across, in fact trying to describe something or someone without using profanity but still getting your point across can have more impact than a tirade laced with four letter words…but me thinks this may be beyond your intelligence.
Comment by Jugger — September 3, 2007 @ 7:52 pm”
What ever…….
I have had it up to my eyes with the Republicans crap!!!!!
You GUTLESS wonders want to send people do die for YOU, but YOU refuse to take a stand for something you support!!!!!
If YOU support this Illegal war, the SIGN on the dotted line and do it on the front lines rather than behind a keyboard.
Most of you GOD DAMN Republican CHICHENHAWKS have not ever served, yet you sit back and act like you know more than those that have!!!!
Almost EVERY single one of you are PU$$IES!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:57 pmInteresting to see TP’s boards totally overrun by the wingnut trollosphere…makes them pretty useless.
Why has there never been some form of community policing implemented? It has been used successfully on many blogs and other forums.
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:59 pmAVGVSTVS: I think the little men under your bed are talking to you again. Why don’t you just log out. You are uneducable.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:00 pmBasra and Kirkuk, with their large Shiitte and Kurdish populations (respectively) make it far less likely that Al Qaeda can operate with impunity there and far more likely the local populace will cooperate with U.S. and Iraqi national government forces against Sunni-dominated Al Qaeda.
Comment by Exley — September 3, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
This is where your obsession with the notion of “Al Qaeda” screws up your understanding of Iraq. Al Qaeda in Iraq is a small, if vicious, minority of the insurgency, and their resistance to the American occupation is only a small part of the conflict in the region.
According to the latest stories coming from this administration, the people attacking US troops, for example, are using Iranian-manufactured weapons. Either this is not true, or the people using them are Shi’a, not Sunni. And the conflict between Sunni and Shi’a is what is going to be the issue outside of Anbar and Kurdistan.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:00 pmComment by Styve — September 3, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
You moonbats need to hear some facts sometimes, if you have a problem, GET OUT!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:03 pm#
“The ultimate goal is to have the Iraqis do their own fighting. That has always been the goal.
Exleyâ€
Then why did we invade in the first place?
Comment by dlet — September 3, 2007 @ 7:45 pm
{cue Jeopardy music}
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:04 pmWhy has there never been some form of community policing implemented? It has been used successfully on many blogs and other forums.
Comment by Styve — September 3, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
Click on my name, Styve….
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:05 pm“You moonbats need to hear some facts sometimes, if you have a problem, GET OUT!!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:03 pm”
I would actually LOVE to hear a Republican actually tell the truth or site FACTS!!!!!
The problem is though……. That will NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!
FACTS is something that the Republicans know NOTHING about Mr. PEE……..
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pmIf Bush loves Iraq so much they can have him and all the GOP. They will fit right in.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmGood one, dlet :)
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmGET OUT!!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Yells the man with no vowels in his name.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pmتلقّى مرØبا ØŒ جيّدة أن بعض [سمبثسرس] هنا
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:09 pmThanks for your support, we will never win without you.
Comment by brandy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
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Get that bullshit chicken scratch outta here!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:11 pmIs AVGVSTVS Arabic for Chickenshit?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:12 pmYou moonbats need to hear some facts sometimes, if you have a problem, GET OUT!!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
You’ve got facts? After all these months, you have facts? Where have you been hiding them all this time?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 pmlooks as if there are a lot of us here, live with it.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 pmComment by brandy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:09 pm
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Comment by brandy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:14 pm†††††††††††††††††††††††††††â€
I’m meting! I’m meeelllttting!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 pmAVGVSTVS if it wasn’t for that “bullshit chicken scratch” arabic translations keeping the ancient greek and Roman knowlege and writings safe during the “Dark Ages”, you wouldn’t even know about Augustus.
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September 3rd, 2007 at 8:17 pmComment by Badger — September 3, 2007 @ 8:17 pm
Suetonius wrote in Latin.
Nice try.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:18 pmlooks as if there are a lot of us here, live with it.
Comment by brandy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
he doesn’t know about Augustus, or anyone else. he’s a Community College dropout, and a social reject. that’s why he’s here 20 hours a day, licking his turds and throwing them around.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 pmNew GOP slogan: Theocracy isn’t free….not only is it an excuse to rob the US treasury its a chance to impose their views on others….In Iraq it’s Shia…here in what’s left of the USA they want some sect of Christian theocracy….Why does the GOP hate our Freedom?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 pmشكرا جزيÙ
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Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:13 pm
Chicken tracks and chickenshit.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:20 pmjb agrees with everything i say
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:21 pmWhy does the GOP hate our Freedom?
Comment by jb — September 3, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
That’s easy, they hate Americans, won’t defend us (9/11), and they have no respect for human life. They won’t be truly happy until they surpass th eAmerican military death toll of Viet Nam. America cannot win immoral, illegal wars, especially when led by chickenhawks and deserters.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pmComment by brandy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:19 pm
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pm††††††††††â€
Get lost, barbarian!!!
Badger,
“And once the Sunni Shieks (NOTE: with U.S. military assistance) kick the al Qaeda foreigners out of Iraq, will they want America out next?”
I would certainly expect so….The good thing is the once Al Qaeda is out of Iraq, the U.S. will be out too. So it behooves both of us to work together to get Al Qaeda out ASAP.
“Our enemy is Al Qaeda..that’s why it was such an enormous mistake to attack secular Iraq.”
We agree that our enemy is Al Qaeda. And it may indeed have been a mistake to invade Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. But the fact is that Al Qaeda followed us there and are there now. And we need to fight them and defeat them in Iraq as much as we need to do the same in Afghanistan/Pakistan.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pmشكرا جزيÙ
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pmwell said jesus, socal liberal
jb = IslamoStalinist
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pmHey peebrain, having a little meltdown. What’s the matter? Just realize nobody likes neoturds.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:23 pmGet lost, barbarian!!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
Always best to take one’s own advice.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:23 pmOh look, the Libtrolls are coming out!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:25 pmOnly the GOP wants the US government to bidding of its corporate masters…the very definition of fascism.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:26 pmترك, نسى, هجر, تخلى, ساÙر, مضى, ذهب, غادرالعراق, بÙد العراق
we will win
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:26 pmOh look, the Libtrolls are coming out!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Some of us have been out longer than you’ve been alive.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:26 pmOh look, the Libtrolls are coming out!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Scary, huh?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:26 pmAVGVSTVS=Islamist buttboy
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:27 pmAugustus = Neofascism. And he’s proud of it, traitor.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:27 pmComment by brandy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:26 pm
You’re a little b!tch, you inhuman savage!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:27 pmIf a neoturd like peebrain gets lost in the forest and nobody gives a shit, is he really lost? Hopefully.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:28 pmYou’re a little b!tch, you inhuman savage!
Comment by AVGVSTVS, Islamist Buttboy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:27 pm
Now, now, you’re Melting, MMMEEELLLTTTIINNGG!!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:29 pmBrandy, don’t listen to Augustus, nobody does.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:29 pmI’m only posting in Arabic from now on.
൬ഡെി ൨൮ ഢ൪
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:30 pmجماعة من الناس, الناس, الشعب, أمة, قوم, أبناء, أشخاص, أهالي, سكان, مواطنين, أنسباء, أسرة, عامة الناس, بشرية العراق, بÙد العراقبالضرورة
This is why americ a will loose, we will win with their help
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:31 pmالإعصار Ùيليكس عشرات الآلا٠من سكان الكار
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:31 pmCHENEY/TANCREDO 2008!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:31 pmDEATH TO ISLAMOSTALINISM!!!
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!
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Is AVGVSTVS Arabic for Chickenshit?
Comment by jb — September 3, 2007 @ 8:12 pm
This guy’s a chickenshit in every language. When are you signing up auggiedoggie? Sign up or shut up, coward.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:31 pm“You’re a little b!tch, you inhuman savage!
Comment by AVGVSTVS”
Hey jughead, where are your pleas for decorum now. I know how profanities give you the vapors, when you recover and are able to leave the fainting couch, I trust you will give avgvstvs a severe tongue lashing, in the men’s room perhaps?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:32 pmذلك ذريعة للبقاء ÙÙŠ السلطة
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:32 pmComment by brandy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
Fuk you, shiteater.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:33 pmEggy,
This is decompensation. :-)
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:33 pmWhat is an IslamoStalinist….sort of like a ChristoPolPot only a different flavor? No I’m neither of those.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pmذلك ذريعة للبقاء ÙÙŠ السلطة
Comment by Egreggious — September 3, 2007 @ 8:32 pm
If your posting to Peebrain, you should really post in German, right Nazi Boy August.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pmSuetonius wrote in Latin.
True…but a lot of his works were lost. I think the one’s that have survived could easily have been saved by Islamic scholars who valued knowlege. That’s my point.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pmIf things are that great, in Anbar and before that in Falluja, and before that in Tel Afar,and in Baghdad we were told is peaceful and quiet…then what are we doing in Iraq?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:35 pmIf things are that great, in Anbar and before that in Falluja, and before that in Tel Afar,and in Baghdad we were told is peaceful and quiet…then what are we doing in Iraq?
Comment by tarazan — September 3, 2007 @ 8:35 pm
It’s a great vacation spot.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:35 pmIm tired of these pedophilic slobovian libturdanites messing up the pristine TP threads; its time to clean house and oust the libonian retardigians
Comment by Grab On—Theyre Real and Bouncy — September 3, 2007 @ 8:36 pm
Cool!! How are you gonna do it?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:37 pmCHENEY/TANCREDO 2008!!!
DEATH TO ISLAMOSTALINISM!!!
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!
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Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
Even for a schizoid like you peebrain, this is over the edge. Take your meds before you wind up in restraints.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:38 pmComment by Badger — September 3, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
The Persians (who were not Islamic at the time) began saving ancient works. Islam rejected most of it, so any Persians who preserved those texts were doing so despite Islam. You’re not going to rewrite history today.
Nice try.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:38 pm.
راء العراقي نوري المالكي أن يقر مجلس النواب تعديل
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:38 pmPedophiles?
Is Foley here again trolling for innocent young trolls?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:39 pmSuch wise and loyal americans here, hope all your social security checks arrived on time, tell the family’s down the street who’s sons and daughter’s are serving their country to go f*uck themselves. Glad to see your so wise and caring.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:40 pmYou’re not going to rewrite history today.
Nice try.
.
Comment by †— September 3, 2007 @ 8:38 pm
that, clearly, is your job, meathead.
nice try, though.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:40 pmللصواريخ على بلدة سديروت التي سقط بها سبعة صواريخ
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:40 pmاليوم. وقال إيهود أولمرت إن جيشه تلقى
تعليمات بالقضاء على كل “المتورطين” ÙÙŠ إطلاقها.
Hey Zooey, look, they think they’re in charge. How many posts do you think Auggiedoggie got on his site today, 2?
Comment by shane — September 3, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
I doubt it — he’s always HERE.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:41 pm…..tell the family’s down the street who’s sons and daughter’s are serving their country to go f*uck themselves.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
Nah, that’s your job.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 pmYea imagine that umbrat.
People refusing to fall in line and goosestep to the band.
Whats this country coming too?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 pmSuch wise and loyal americans here, hope all your social security checks arrived on time, tell the family’s down the street who’s sons and daughter’s are serving their country to go f*uck themselves. Glad to see your so wise and caring.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
nice of you and yours to send them to their deaths for Georgie’s oil profits, oh wise one. Speaking of go f*ck yourself, rightard.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 pmNo the trolls are here waiting for Senator Craig to give up on the men’s room.
Comment by shane — September 3, 2007 @ 8:41 pm
Trolls have a naturally wide stance…..if you get my drift….
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:43 pmronjazz, bartlebee, zooey
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:44 pmyou already have, between your little no wit, braindamaged rants. and besides i really hope your ss came in, looks like you need your meds.
Grab On—Theyre Real and Bouncy sez:
Are you sure you want to go there?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:44 pmTrolls have a naturally wide stance…..if you get my drift….
Comment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
they like the GOP giving it to them from behind.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:44 pmThose texts were translated back and forth into Greek Latin Hebrew Arabic ( Not Islamic) persian or whatever….probably not English. To dismiss arabic as an important language for preserving ancient culture and knowlege is a stretch.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:45 pm#
Such wise and loyal americans here, hope all your social security checks arrived on time, tell the family’s down the street who’s sons and daughter’s are serving their country to go f*uck themselves. Glad to see your so wise and caring.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:40 pm
#
Bush and GOP already have done that many times over.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:45 pmronjazz, bartlebee, zooey
you already have, between your little no wit, braindamaged rants. and besides i really hope your ss came in, looks like you need your meds.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
Project much, umbrella?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:46 pmIraq is such a rousing success of a country, that in order to visit it, the President has to be snuck in under the tightest of all possible security.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:46 pmBoy, the Left is in full panic mode these days. They see the military situation in Iraq changing dramatically for the better and the concomitant polls showing increased American public optimism about the war and the thought that America might actually succeed in Iraq fills them with dismay.
But at least this posting shows that TP and its devotees are FINALLY admitting that we are fighting Al Qaeda over there. For the longest time, they have been denying that.
Comment by Exley —
Such a load of crap… America is not buying the lies…and if you truly believe what you said in your post – shows what a loser you really are.
Maybe you can give me a definition of what PROGRESS in Iraq would be. You can’t as there is no moral righteous definition.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:46 pmyou already have, between your little no wit, braindamaged rants. and besides i really hope your ss came in, looks like you need your meds.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
wow, we’ll never recover from that intellectual broadside!
Hey, try enlisting, maybe the Army can get rid of that yellow stripe you wear.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:46 pmTrip! Fantastic!
(and, for good measure, The Light!)
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 pmYou might want to ask a troop, not your brain dead mother
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 pmyou already have, between your little no wit, braindamaged rants. and besides i really hope your ss came in, looks like you need your meds.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
hey thats funny stuff.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 pmi get my check every month from the va, already enlisted, been there and done that
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:48 pmMy social security however umbrat, is your mom.
As long as her gums hold out.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:48 pmIraq is such a success W should just stay and cut some brush or maybe golf.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:48 pmYou might want to ask a troop, not your brain dead mother
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
Seriously, Sen Frist said she was ok.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:48 pmYou might want to ask a troop, not your brain dead mother
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
Join up, I’ll ask you. And thanks for sinking to the usual frustrated troll level. You have nothing. At least I know my mother.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:49 pmyeah zooey he told me that too about your mother, no help for the brain dead
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:50 pmi get my check every month from the va, already enlisted, been there and done that
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
They must be relieved that someone as stupid as you is gone.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:50 pmRemember John Belushi, when he would do those occasional “editorials” on Weekend Update, and at the end he would start spazzing out and frothing at the mouth? Augutless’s posts remind me of that.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:50 pmyeah, they were, only retired with 29 years in, if i stayed anther, id had to take more money
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:51 pmyeah zooey he told me that too about your mother, no help for the brain dead
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
Frist? You’re absolutely right, no help for him at all.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pmWhere was Dumbya’s “Mission Accomplished” sign??
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pmEgreggious sez:
Thanks, although I can’t really take credit. The Repukes seem to be trying to sabotage themselves at every opportunity….that’s some pretty powerful self-loathing they’ve got going on… ^_^
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pmThey must be relieved that someone as stupid as you is gone.
Comment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
way to support the troops, as usual. whats next, going to start calling vets baby killers?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pmyeah zooey he told me that too about your mother, no help for the brain dead
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:50 pm
And still she’s more useful than you’ll ever be. Mom’s amazing!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:53 pmnew meaning to the word shane, what contribution to mankind have you ever done?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:53 pmMom’s amazing!
Comment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
Yes, yes she was.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:53 pmthats what all they guys say zooey, glad to hear she’s going strong
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:54 pmyeah, they were, only retired with 29 years in, if i stayed anther, id had to take more money
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
Almost made Corporal, hey?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:54 pmHi Wayne! How’s Jane? Send my regards. You know it’s bad when posters begin posting in foreign script. Good god – has this site degenerated.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:54 pmway to support the troops, as usual. whats next, going to start calling vets baby killers?
Comment by Jugger — September 3, 2007 @ 8:52 pm
umbrella is too stupid to be a troop, dingleberry.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:54 pmBush’s phony photo ops in Iraq are giving aid and comfort to the enemy (people of Iraq)because these antics are so lame and desperate.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 pmI never saw “stance†used in reference to mouths before.
Comment by shane — September 3, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
you havent seen her moms yet!
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 pmHi Zooey! Looks like you guys are having way too much fun here tonight demoralizing the worthless trolls.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 pmJust because they used the word undercutting in the title didn’t mean you all had to race to the bottom
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 pmarent dingleberry hanging from dogs a$$es?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:56 pmyeah, they were, only retired with 29 years in, if i stayed anther, id had to take more money
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:51 pm
They wouldn’t let you stay for the 30, huh? That’s pretty telling.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:56 pmThese staged photos were a total mockery of the lives lost for this illegal, amoral war. Bush looks like a total bufoon and he’s fooling absolutely no one with this charade of making a “photo op” out of the travesty whose blood is on this fool’s hands.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:57 pmWell, it’s clear that our rightard contingent has nothing but mother-hating on their minds. Not at all surprising, since thay don’t have a clue about who their fathers were or their whereabouts.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:57 pmHi Zooey! Looks like you guys are having way too much fun here tonight demoralizing the worthless trolls.
Comment by veritas — September 3, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
At least its better than demoralizing the troops which is your usual schtick.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:58 pmzooey wipe your moms mouth, better than ss, right hon,
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:58 pmComment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
Hi Zooey. Off topic but what’s up with the fires out there?
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:58 pmSo, Bush being able to land at a US Air Base and give a talk there while 10,000 US troops make sure no Iraqi comes within 10 1/2 miles of him——is proof of how wonderful things are going in Iraq?
The old Soviet Union would have been proud of such a propaganda stunt.
WTF? He didn’t even bring them a plastic turkey this time.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:58 pmIt’s a full media blitz by the right on this surge bullshit. As usual, the repugs figure if they say it enough they create their own reality. I sincerely hope the American public has figured this out.
For the first time in a long time we see talking heads like Wolf Blitzer calling some of these liars out when they spew their talking points.
The visit by chimpy in eyerack was nothing but a photo op…no less than “mission accomplished”. The video today with some of the younger troops around the humvee was telling…even for the green zone…the troops were in full combat gear opposed to their CINC…who was dressed like johnny fu(king cash. What a delusional prick…this prez is.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:59 pmarent dingleberry hanging from dogs a$$es?
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:56 pm
not if you get there first.
September 3rd, 2007 at 8:59 pmHi Zooey! Looks like you guys are having way too much fun here tonight demoralizing the worthless trolls.
Comment by veritas — September 3, 2007 @ 8:55 pm
They’re actually pretty pitiful tonight. Their leader, Pee Brain, ran away crying.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:00 pmtoo bad, jesus, i know u’d miss it
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:00 pmumbra sez:
Wal-mart habitually manufactures reasons to fire people before they can accrue enough time to merit cos-of-living raises. They also hire many employees at part-time, and keep them under 40 hours a week, so they don’t have to pay for their insurance.
Looks like the military is following the same playbook in regards to umbra (assuming, of course, that his claim of service rendered is on the level).
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:00 pmtoo bad, jesus, i know u’d miss it
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:00 pm
you and jugger can fight over them.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:01 pmAt least its better than demoralizing the troops which is your usual schtick.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:02 pmumbra cheers each troop’s death as if something were being accomplished. I don’t care for him.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:03 pmjesus, we’d be sorry to see them missing from between your teeth, and besides, its apprent you enjoy the taste.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:03 pmHi Zooey. Off topic but what’s up with the fires out there?
Comment by dbadass — September 3, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
We’re burning up!! It’s summer time. Dry as a bone. Thank goodness the harvest got in with very few combine fires.
BTW, click my name….
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:03 pmAt least its better than demoralizing the troops which is your usual schtick.
Comment by Jugger — September 3, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
Beats dismembering them which is your usual schtick.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:03 pmWTF? He didn’t even bring them a plastic turkey this time.
Comment by Keith — September 3, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
He brought his plastic Condi doll. :D
Click my name, Keith.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:04 pmZooey has a blog. Is it a censoring blog like TP or are bartlebee’s welcome there?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:06 pmComment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Truly a brilliant retort. How did you get to be such an expert on shit-eating? It is probably a great skill to have if one is to worship the Bush crime family.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:06 pmHey Zooey. CNN’s Dana Bash is still stuck in Boise. I think she’s about to crack. Heard someone call Craig “Idaholier than thou”.
I’ll have to start visiting your site.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:06 pmYou are welcome, Bart. :)
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:06 pmYeah, Zooey, your site looks good.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:07 pm:D
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:07 pm“Idaholier than thouâ€.
That’s funny, I call him assholierthanthou! :D
I’ll have to start visiting your site.
Comment by Keith — September 3, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Please do, it’s a joint effort. :)
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:08 pm“At least its better than demoralizing the troops which is your usual schtick.
Comment by Jugger — September 3, 2007 @ 8:58 pm”
Like YOU would have any knowledge of what “demoralizes” the troops????
Lies from COMMANDERS and the Commander-in-Chief is what “demoralizes” the troops……..
I don’t expect a CHICKENHAWK like you to know anything abou this though…….
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:08 pmreporter: Where are you from?
Larry Craig: Idaho
reporter: I know you’re the ho, where are you from?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:08 pmso shane, its ok for u brain dead sh** for brains to call peoples, mothers names, i appreciate that, by the way dumb fk, 29 years, MI, vietnam, grenada, desert storm, and numerous other lil things you wouldnt even know about.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:08 pmHe only said that shane cause he knew no one here would stoop to his level.
He must have overlooked me.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:09 pmYeah, Zooey, your site looks good.
Comment by Keith — September 3, 2007 @ 9:07 pm
It’s a bunch of us doing it. You’ll find familiar names there.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:09 pmby the way dumb fk, 29 years, MI, vietnam, grenada, desert storm, and numerous other lil things you wouldnt even know about.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
You read about all those conflicts ay?
Pretty impressive.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:10 pmFor such a young guy.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:10 pmreporter: I know you’re the ho, where are you from?
Comment by ronjazz — September 3, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Never heard that one before!
*groan*
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:10 pmit’s a joint effort. :)
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:10 pmComment by Zooey
It’s more enjoyable with a joint?
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Why only 29 years? Who did you piss off?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:11 pmYou might want to ask a troop, not your brain dead mother
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 8:47 pm
You started that crap, old man, and you were destroyed because of it. that’s why nobody believes a word of your claims of service. The real vets on this site are very easy to discern. You aren’t one. Jake.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:12 pmIt’s more enjoyable with a joint?
Comment by Keith — September 3, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
Isn’t everything? Heh.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:12 pmBush..
“One of the things they kept talking about was Iran. And they know full well that Iraqi nationalism trumps the Iranian influence, but they also know that a united Iran — Iraq is necessary to deal with Iran. ”
Yes, Mr President who only watches Fox News, but the magority of Iraq is Shiite and friendly with Iran, as is is president and Nuri Maliki. He talks like Americans are idiots.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:12 pmNever heard that one before!
*groan*
Comment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 9:10 pm
I just made it up. ’tis a groaner, for sure.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:13 pmWhy only 29 years? Who did you piss off?
Comment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 9:11 pm
29 years is how old he is Zooey. Since he’s been playing with his GI Joes that long he counts that as combat experience.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:13 pmIsn’t everything? Heh.
Comment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 9:12 pm
That explains a lot re your vacuous skull.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 pmronjazz, looks like im the only one here, rest of u pulled kp and were kicked out for non performance
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 pmI just made it up. ’tis a groaner, for sure.
Comment by ronjazz — September 3, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
You must be channeling my dad….. :D
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:15 pmBTW, click my name….
Comment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Yeah been there, done that. Pretty sweet so far but I’m afraid the Jane Goodall in me might make me uncomfortable amongst you folks. The ecology of fire is poorly understood by most and probably even fewer here in NE.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:15 pmcheers
dbadass,
You’re welcome anytime. :)
Fire — the great destroyer, and the great renewer of life.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:16 pmJugger sez:
And your excuse would be?
(Yes, I know, I really shouldn’t be feeding the trolls…but the signal-to-noise ratio has hit about zero on this thread…)
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:17 pmIf I pull your finger shane will you crack an umbra?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:17 pmThose texts were translated back and forth into Greek Latin Hebrew Arabic ( Not Islamic) persian or whatever….probably not English. To dismiss arabic as an important language for preserving ancient culture and knowlege is a stretch.
Comment by Badger — September 3, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
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It would be, if that’s what I had done. But it isn’t.
You said “Islamic scholars” not Arabic scholars, and as most of those writings were pagan, if an Islamic shithead saw it, it would have most likely been destroyed. That is why it had to be done with out the knowledge of shiteating Muslim leaders. Stop making excuses for Muslim.
Nice try.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:18 pm.
Those texts were translated back and forth into Greek Latin Hebrew Arabic ( Not Islamic) persian or whatever….probably not English. To dismiss arabic as an important language for preserving ancient culture and knowlege is a stretch.
Comment by Badger — September 3, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
———-
It would be, if that’s what I had done. But it isn’t.
You said “Islamic scholars†not Arabic scholars, and as most of those writings were pagan, if an Islamic shithead saw it, it would have most likely been destroyed. That is why it had to be done with out the knowledge of shiteating Muslim leaders. Stop making excuses for Muslim.
Nice try.
.
Comment by †— September 3, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:18 pmso shane, its ok for u brain dead sh** for brains to call peoples, mothers names…..
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Hey assw*pe, you started trashing my mother — not the other way around.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:19 pmOk who cracked an AVGVSTVS?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 pmumbra…. isn’t that like one of those little robotic vacum cleaners?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 pmAnd your excuse would be?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 3, 2007 @ 9:17 pm
OMG, thats it, your powers of intellect have defeated me, lol.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:21 pmyou might want to look it up, bartlebut, but then again, you wouldnt understand it
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:22 pmHey assw*pe, you started trashing my mother — not the other way around.
Comment by Zooey — September 3, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
you brought her in to it in the first place, she is then fair game…you would not make a good lawyer thats for sure.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:22 pmyou brought her in to it in the first place, she is then fair game…you would not make a good lawyer thats for sure.
Comment by Jugger — September 3, 2007 @ 9:22 pm
Can you read?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:24 pmshane is a realy smart individual, his comments are piercing, and highly intelligent, for a 4 year retard. careful dont hurt is feelings
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:24 pmYea these trolls are about as much fun as watching paint dry.
I kinda liked the roomba crack but these guys are just limpdicks.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 pm†sez:
I’m curious,  if these Arabic scholars weren’t Muslim, exactly what were they?
(Also, did that post really merit being posted twice? Show a little control…)
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 pmah well, time to move on….look TP’ers there’s a shiny quarter over there!
After all thats how easily you’re distracted from the actual post itself and any meaningful discussion regarding it, gawd wake up, look back at the comments, you’re so bent out of shape and led astray it’s a joke, and easy too.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 pmHey, umbrella — 29 years — wut up?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 pmWasn’t the shrug for the baghdad area
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 pmMinor point.Just wondering.
This guy has sooo much cred.Reeks of truth.
That’s why they have turned the pr over to the heavy hitters with unlimited funds.
The pentagon is the pr front for the war industry.Always hes been.They just wear different suits.
Without war they have no income or profit.
The civilians in business suits are having a very hard time repeating the same shifting lies and getting the desired results.
They have shifted the focus to men dressed like people think army men are dressed.This is the only chance they had left to sell more time/money/profit for this non-war.
If you remember all the pr adds for medical treatments and products with the actors dressed in white coats pretending to be doctors?Remember”trust us,we’re experts?
Yah,that’s the ticket.
At this point they still have a hard time finding someone who has cred without being attached to any part of the mess.
shane, im curious, since you were castrated, have you ever seen anything you like?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 pmfor a 4 year retard. careful dont hurt is feelings
Comment by roomba — September 3, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
What is a “4 year retard”?
Are you trying to say that he’s been a retard for 4 years?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:28 pmJugger sez:
I accept your admission of defeat. Leave us now.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:28 pmHey Jug,
When are YOU going to make an on-topic comment?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:28 pmDamn, first thing tomorrow I’m going to have the peer assistance group gather you all together for some mediation. Before you know it you’ll all be enjoying some lame assed ropes course together. Stand up and just fall back away from your keyboards
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:29 pmChange the channel dbadass. Its a boring monday and we’re cracking a few jokes. Deal with it.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:31 pmNever left the airbase for the entire visit?
Now THERES confidence that the surge is working!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:32 pmtoo bad, people who too afraid to come out of their house dont get very far do they
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:32 pmtoo bad, people who too afraid to come out of their house dont get very far do they
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:32 pm
I hope your former elementary school is taking steps to recoup your grammar teachers salary.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:34 pmShe failed you.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:35 pmI’m not even sure if that was a sentence.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:36 pmAm very thankful that no more children will be left behind
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:40 pmJugger,
I was joking about the other meaning of joint. Our president is the one who sounds like he has done too many drugs in his life. That’s the reason he had to stop taking the flight physical–at the exact time they began including the drug test. That’s the reason he stopped showing up. That’s the reason it is desertion during wartime.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmBush and all those who support him should be proud of Anbar as the people have been given money for their support. Yes jobs and money are what Bush gave to get this done. No jobs in the US but many jobs offered by the White House to those in Iraq. As our stock market falls and millions lose their homes/jobs/pensions while taxpayers money goes to Iraq for homes/jobs/pay offs. Now all Bush has to do is as Congress for more money to do the same in every town in Iraq then the mission will be completed.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmBush will buy the heart and soul of the Iraq people with money from the US Treasury.
it wasnt bartlebut, but its so easy to get your stupd lil brain off any subject and direct you to start your little “name calling”
shane is so stupid he doesnt even know what the tread was about.
zoey, get you mom off the street
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmHuh. If I recall correctly, the surge was all about Bagdad. The surge would have had no impact on Anbar. Why hasn’t anyone called Bush out on this one?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:41 pmOh wow, now i’v seen some stupid comments, but….. now i know who’s not going out of their houses
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:45 pmHave any vets here read Stan Goff’s stuff? I heard him lecture once in NC. He sounds like he really knows what he is talking about.
http://stangoff.com/
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:47 pmnow i’v seen some stupid comments, but…
Comment by Dumbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:45 pm
I know you’ve made some.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 pmI’m curious,  if these Arabic scholars weren’t Muslim, exactly what were they?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 3, 2007 @ 9:26 pm
————-
They were pagan, of course, as Islam didn’t start ruining the Middle East until the 7th century AD.
Nice try.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 pmzoey, get you mom off the street
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:41 pm
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HEyOOOOOOOOOOOOO0000000000000OOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO000000000000000000000OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:49 pmI know you’ve made some.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Only if your an idiot, oh you anwered that already, sorry
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:50 pmHe’s pretty much right about the timeperiod. The Chrisitians of course were busy torturing people and burning them alive for centuries by then.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:51 pmW is afraid to go to Baghdad. His plane might get shot at. The surge would be in his shorts.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:52 pmOnly if your an idiot, oh you anwered that already, sorry
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
I think you meant to say, “only if you’re an idiot.
:|
It helps when you’re calling someone an idiot to not look like one.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:53 pmThats my “anwer to you.
:P
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:54 pmThey were pagan, of course, as Islam didn’t start ruining the Middle East until the 7th century AD.
Nice try.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
Your grasp of history is as weak as your grasp of religion. What, pray tell, is a “pagan”?
The Persian, Byzantine and ISLAMIC cultures preserved the work of the Greeks and Romans through the dark period in European history. It was the Christians who destroyed Classic writing, fool, not Islamic scholars. During the 12th century, hundreds of years later, Europeans began to study those texts that had been preserved by the Muslims.
Either you are astonishingly ignorant of history (which has been obvious) or you’re simply trying to rewrite history, much like your looney friend The Joker.
And you would do well to read some history of the Golden Age of Islam, Mr Pee. Assuming, of course, it exists in Cliff Note form.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:56 pmThats my “anwer to you.
:P
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Hmmmmmmm, point taken.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:58 pmHey just doing my part of the illiterate of America shane.
We must help them.
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:59 pmshane, dont show your ignorance any more, go back to your barbie doll dress up’s,
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:00 pmGreat.
Now I’m the troll-trainer.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:00 pmRotten work if you can’t avoid it.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:01 pmbartlebut, closed parens
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:01 pmwasn’t any
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:01 pmMr. Effluent, sir?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:02 pmSorry sir, I know you’re still groggy from the flight enhancers you took before leaving Anbar, but we’re home now.
Home, sir.
No, sorry sir, not Paraguay. You’ll have to wait it out here in Washington a little longer.
Yes sir, sorry sir, you do have to return to the White House.
I know it’s empty without Karl and Tony and that other fellow, the reporter who had the pajama parties.
Just a another year or so, you can do it sir.
There there now, sir, of course, of course, you know you’ve always got a shoulder to cry on with me sir.
What’s that sound?
The crinkling sound in my sport coat?
Oh, that… it’s just a garbage bag from the kitchen, sir.
bartlebut, closed parens
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
You meant “bartlebutt”.
Not but.
Butt.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:02 pmThey were pagan, of course, as Islam didn’t start ruining the Middle East until the 7th century AD.
Nice try.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
Which year was it that Scientology really started to take a toll on the US? And those Quakers, they are dangerous I tell you. My mom’s one. You have to keep a close eye on those religous types otherwise before you know it they’ll be trying to force their own craziness upon someone else’s craziness
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 pmComment by gummitch — September 3, 2007 @ 9:56 pm
Lefty,
Badger was talking about AVGVSTVS, who’s life was recorded by Suetonius (among others) well before the 7th century AD.
And, Ummm… you know, lefty, those works had to be preserved BEFORE the rise of Islam…
Do I really need to explain this?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 pmHey Umbra, do you go to public school, or private school like Michael?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 pmComment by WH Chief of Staph
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:04 pmgag, waffle house waitresss humor
Yet in other parts of the media they are mimicking Bushs words that we dont need more troops to secure Iraq and could reduce troop levels.
Flip Flop!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:05 pmpaps
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:05 pmi went to clinton high and then to u of michigan
By the way, what is a “parens”?
Were you wanting to say “parentheses” but just afraid you’d fumble it?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:05 pmJughead is just another rightwing christofacist sodomite hypocrite. ignore it.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:06 pmi went to clinton high and then to u of michigan
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
Great. Nice job.
There goes their federal funding.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:06 pmDo I really need to explain this?
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Please, the dead sea scrolls did just fine in a cave.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:06 pmur choice troll licker
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:06 pmur choice troll licker
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:06 pm
Have you considered a Speak-n-Spell?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:07 pmAnd yes. That was an example of when you wanted to use “your”.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:08 pmWere you wanting to say “parentheses†but just afraid you’d fumble it?
Comment by TROLL TRAINER — September 3, 2007
Actually, strumpet, it would be “type” instead of say.
Now go take of your (R)Vitter trainers, your stinking up the place, “strumpet”.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 pmi went to clinton high and then to u of michigan
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:05 pm
Who was your English teacher?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 pmso sorry, i wont even begin on your stupidity
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 pm“waffle house waitresss humor”
Comment by umbra
How did you learn of our little nickname for the presidential mansion?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:10 pmhmmmmm, I’ll bet it was that pajama party fellow, he was always coming and going through the kitchen entrance…
Who was your English teacher?
Comment by paps meer — September 3, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
Sister Mary Elephant? Please say yes. Young man….
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmNow go take of your (R)Vitter trainers, your stinking up the place, “strumpetâ€.
Comment by BORe Ink — September 3, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
You mean take off you’re (R)Vitter trainers, you’re stinking up the place…?
Is that what you were trying to say to me?
And no, the use of the word “say” was fine in that example, Wordsmith.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmAnd, Ummm… you know, lefty, those works had to be preserved BEFORE the rise of Islam…
Do I really need to explain this?
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
You might be able to think it through to its logical conclusion. Or not. Who do you suppose preserved it between the 7th and 12th centuries? The Persians (excuse me, “the pagans”) certainly didn’t turn it over to the Vatican, did they?
Face it, this is all your attempt to delegitimize Islam, by denying it any cultural achievements at all, much like did in all that blathering awhile back about Jerusalem, or the dopey “history” on your blog about Salamis.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmComment by WH Chief of Staph
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmno it twas (yes i said twas) you lil elf, TROLL TRAINER who trained the elfs
Progs are excellent under-cutters and cut and runners. Congrats at being good…. at something.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 pmso sorry, i wont even begin on your stupidity
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
That’s you’re stupidity to you, ma’am!
Now about this English teacher: do you feel they did a good job teaching you critical thinking skills?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:13 pmHere’s but one more example of that time-tested strategy — find a parade, walk in front of it, and call it leadership.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:14 pmWow. MA.
Theres someone I haven’t seen in ages.
:\
Hmmm, or have I?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:14 pmwell, cunt smeer, i think she did an admiral job, she did say u should be proud of your country
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:15 pmComment by gummitch — September 3, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Something that isn’t, was never, and never will be legitimate, can not be delegitimized.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:16 pmso sorry, i wont even begin on your stupidity
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:09 pm
Not at least until you get started on your own, huh?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:16 pmwell, cunt smeer, i think she did an admiral job, she did say u should be proud of your country
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
That’s funny; my English teacher only did a captain job. You’re lucky!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:17 pmTROLL TRAINER
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:17 pmgive me an example, lets see if its legit
Something that isn’t, was never, and never will be legitimate, can not be delegitimized.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Yes, I know. Muslimshiteaters. Like all bigots, you’re willfully ignorant.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:18 pmlove it, word games, admiral, captan, great points
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:21 pmSomething that isn’t, was never, and never will be legitimate, can not be delegitimized.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 10:16 pm
Considering you said this in reference to Islam, that has got to be one of the single most ignorant things you’ve posted here yet.
You really don’t like using facts in your arguments, do you? You just take your xenophobic ramblings as absolute truth, don’t you? No wonder you can never convince anyone (except your alternate personalities) that your arguments have merit.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:21 pmwell, cunt smeer, i think she did an admiral job, she did say u should be proud of your country
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:15 pm
This is killer stuff! I hang around here just for these moments. Cunt Smeer! I can’t wait to drop this at the social setting least appropriate.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:22 pmTROLL TRAINER
give me an example, lets see if its legit
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
I already gave you several.
But if you’re that hard up, just pick from among your last 50 posts.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:22 pmso your islamic?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 pmProgs are excellent under-cutters and cut and runners. Congrats at being good…. at something.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 3, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
That’s because we’re so used to under-cutting your incompetence… OH wait, that’s humor, you wouldn’t get HUMOR, being retarded and deranged…
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 pmlove it, word games, admiral, captan, great points
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
What? I’m serious! It’s rare, the student whose teacher does an admiral job! And it obviously is reflected in the intelligence of her students.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 pmspelling is your example?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 pmNo spelling was your example.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:24 pmumbra sez:
so their islamic what?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:24 pmRove advised Bush against picking Cheney.
Rove is squirming.
Mr P. When you and Bob go HeyooOOoOooOoOOOoOOoooo to another the first thing that popped into my mind was NO FLIRTING!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:25 pmTripMaster Monkey
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:25 pmyeah, whats your point
So Mighty Aphrodite, tell me what Bush Sr did in Iraq?
Was that a cut or a run?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:26 pmyes it was, he didn’t want to scare you
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:28 pmso your islamic?
Comment by Dumbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:23 pm
ooops. There you go again.
You meant to say; “so you’re Islamic?
I urge you to try the Speak-n-Spell.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 pmTripMaster Monkey
yeah, whats your point
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:25 pm
I can’t speak for TripMaster, but my point is you, Umbra. Exactly. Hey, weren’t you worried that by going to college, you’d start voting for Democrats?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 pmTROLL TRAINER
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:30 pmsorry if ur so stupid, i try and speak to the lower people
no
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 pmSo Mighty Aphrodite, tell me what Bush Sr did in Iraq?
Was that a cut or a run?
Comment by Ichthus — September 3, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Haven’t you heard? When the saran wrapped lunatics like aphrodite complain about liberals, they don’t need facts to prove their lunacy, but any republicans that behave in the way they PROJECT dems to behave, it’s just the ‘exception’ in their eyes. Poor little f*cker is just so st*pid she can’t face reality.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:32 pmno
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Why not? Karl Rove would be worried. And may I say, you illustrate his point beautifully.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:32 pmcunt smear, your point exactly. you really dont understand being out of appalacial do you
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:34 pmsorry if ur so stupid, i try and speak to the lower people
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Can others see these “lower people”, or just you?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 pmleft something in there for the spell checker
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 pmyour making your mark troll
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:36 pmleft something in there for the spell checker
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
It goes without saying.
So answer my question.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 pmyou really dont understand being out of appalacial do you
Comment by Dumbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
What the hell is “being out of appalacial”?
:|
You mean they’re from the appalacian mountains?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 pmWow!
Looks like some of these lefties have a severe case of Islamophilia!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 pmover your intelligence level? sorry
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 pmleft something in there for the spell checker
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
You mean “from” the spell checker?
You left something in there “from the spellchecker”?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 pmWow!
Looks like some of these lefties have a severe case of Islamophilia!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
What do you got Tourette’s or something?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 pmumbra sez:
My point is that you don’t seem to know the difference between “your” and “you’re”. What was the name of that college?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 pmsorry, copy and paste to your spell checker, you might get it, oh, you might want to run roget
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 pmWow!
Looks like some of these lefties have a severe case of Islamophilia!!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
You must have time-traveled to when Ronnie RayGun called the taliban and Osama his favorite FREEDUMB FIGHTERS!! Just like you, the NEW GENERATION of FREE-DUMB fighters!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 pmYou left something in there “from the spellchecker�
Comment by TROLL TRAINER
“from” “for” WTF difference does it make. It only depends on how you want it to be understood by the reader. Both are acceptable. I heard of spell-check morons but this is pathetic. You must have trained Mr. Pee.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:42 pmWell one things for sure. The TROLL TRAINER has done his job.
He’s already gotten one troll reduced to using a spell checker.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:42 pmLOL MIR
MA is probably using Mr P’s subjective/objective projectionism truth
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:42 pmmichigan (um) university of michigan
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:42 pmYou mean “from†the spell checker?
You left something in there “from the spellchecker�
Comment by TROLL TRAINER — September 3, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
Well, when you’re a mentally retarded republican rube, ‘from’ really does need to be in the spell-checker!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:43 pm“As people do better, they start voting like Republicans – unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.”—Karl Rove
Umbra, I sincerely hope you didn’t finish college; I mean, if you did, wouldn’t you feel pretty conflicted?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:44 pmmichaelIsRetarded
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:45 pmyes you are, there is a really good school, in ann arbor, they can show u how to go away quietly
“from†“for†WTF difference does it make.
Comment by dlet — September 3, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
“For” the spell checker would imply you were providing input to the spell checker.
“From” the spell checker would indicate you were pasting something that you’ve already run a spell check on.
So the difference there skippy, is the two mean two completely different things.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:45 pmIf GANG killings go down in NEW ORLEANS can we give any of the CREDIT to RAY NAGIN’s latest plan?
You know the one where he says “can’t we all just get along”
Or should we just chalk it up to a LULL in the DRUG TRADE?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:45 pmMr P got all worked up because Dean spoke to a crowd of Muslims about freedom while subjectively forgetting about the Iraq Freedom Operation.
It was quite funny.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:45 pmTroll Trainer…I was catching up on some of the posts and they seem to have degenerated into “spell check” “proper vocab” h…e….double hockey sticks. Didn’t mean to single you out. Just hate that type of nonsense on a blog. Trolls seem to use it to derail….thought you was a troll…my mistake.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 pmBush:
“I have come here today to see with OUR own eyes”
Is Bush trying to say “I am legion”?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 pmcunt smear, sorry, i did, master at georgetown
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 pmBush did not choose Cheney for VP. Bush chose Cheney to pick the VP and he chose himself. They were both residing in Texas, which is unconstitutional, so Cheney just used a Wyoming address.
BTW, isn’t it strange that someone who idolizes ancient Greeks puts someone down for being a “pagan”?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 pmHey Scooter we will chalk it up to Diaper Man (R) Vitter.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 pmUmbra, I sincerely hope you didn’t finish college; I mean, if you did, wouldn’t you feel pretty conflicted?
Comment by paps meer — September 3, 2007 @ 10:44 pm
Karl did a good job of identifying ‘rich-and-stupid’, versus ‘rich-and-intelligent’ – Republicans vs. Democrats. What he forgot to mention as this doesn’t just depend on income. It’s ’stupid’ vs. ’smart’.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 pmcunt smear, sorry, i did, master at georgetown
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
In what? I have to know…
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:47 pmTroll Trainer…I was catching up on some of the posts and they seem to have degenerated into “spell check†“proper vocab†h…e….double hockey sticks. Didn’t mean to single you out. Just hate that type of nonsense on a blog. Trolls seem to use it to derail….thought you was a troll…my mistake.
Comment by dlet — September 3, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
Well, I am a Troll Trainer so its an easy mistake to make.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:47 pmmichaelIsRetarded
yes you are, there is a really good school, in ann arbor, they can show u how to go away quietly
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
Ah, I always love how republicans give themselves the BEST ADVICE for why their TROLLING is so stupid, and how they should just GO AWAY… Yet as Rove pointed out, they’re too STUPID to know how STUPID they are…
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:48 pmWhen George talks about OUR eyes hes talking about a device in his ear, on the other end was his brain “Rove”
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 pmumbra sez:
Unless U of M has seriously relaxed their admissions criteria, I doubt that very much.
So…you have already served for 29 years, you receive a check from the VA, and you attend U of M?
Gee, umbra…when you lie, you don’t do it halfway, do you?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 pmSO all you libs have been complaining that the Iraqis were never going to take charge and now that they have you somehow try and make this a BAD thing!!
Any idea how to spell “V-I-C-T-O-R-Y” and success????
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 pmSo the difference there skippy, is the two mean two completely different things.
Comment by TROLL TRAINER
If you had an automatic spell-checker then the “from” would indicate that you saw it was wrong and you didn’t care and if you said “for” it could mean that it was intended for the reader’s spell checker to alert the incorrect spelling. Again it depends on how you want the reader to read it. Both are correct.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 pmBTW, isn’t it strange that someone who idolizes ancient Greeks puts someone down for being a “pagan�
Comment by Keith — September 3, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
Almost as funny as someone that claims to be a ‘Christian’, doesn’t recognize that a deified ’son’, a ‘devil’, a ‘mother’ that hears prayers and ‘angels’ and ‘demons’ are a pantheon of different PAGAN gods… Ah the irony!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:49 pmone of these days we are going to be able to convince the TERRORISTS in NEW ORLEANS to stop killing each other and concentrate on the NEEDS of thier community..
(if you believe the previous statement,,, then I have some wonderful swampland in FLORIDA to sell YOU)
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:50 pmsorry, i did, master at georgetown
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
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Well, as long as no one saw you and you cleaned it up when you were through, then it shouldn’t matter now.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:50 pmYes MIR, Rove surely made fools of Bush-Bots. Why even Rove knows the media is not liberal, he said so.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:50 pmTripMaster Monkey
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 pmu of stupidy, congrats TripMaster Monkey for the only failure in the program, but im sure you did well at the stupididy u.
“So Mighty Aphrodite, tell me what Bush Sr did in Iraq?
Was that a cut or a run?”
Comment by Ichthus
Ick – Let me confuse you with the facts….In order to get the Islamic states onboard, they had to risk offending their most fervent, extemist “Koranimals”. (Many members of various royal families are scared to death of being ousted by these radicals. Most petro customer-countries would rather deal with the Saudi Royal Family rather than the Taliban.) ) The Muslim royals walk a tightrope to hang onto power by balancing the interests of the most wacked imans and their best customers. The agreement of the coalition NOT to go to Baghdad was designed to balance various interests. Of course, I don’t expect you to have much appreciation for the history lesson I just gave you – revising history is a leftard specialty…….
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 pmSO all you libs have been complaining that the Iraqis were never going to take charge and now that they have you somehow try and make this a BAD thing!! Comment by Mike — September 3, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
If by ‘taking-charge’ you mean ‘propaganda’, that’s not victory.
Any idea how to spell “V-I-C-T-O-R-Y†and success????
Comment by Mike — September 3, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
Yeah, letting a foreign country run its own government? DUH. you’re a real idiot.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:52 pm‘I have come here today to see with our own eyes the remarkable changes that are taking place in Anbar Province.’â€
another brilliant statement from our president…
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:52 pmHey scooter why would anyone take your “cute” word for that?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:52 pmIf you had an automatic spell-checker then the “from†would indicate that you saw it was wrong and you didn’t care and if you said “for†it could mean that it was intended for the reader’s spell checker to alert the incorrect spelling. Again it depends on how you want the reader to read it. Both are correct.
Comment by dlet — September 3, 2007 @ 10:49 pm
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Thats the biggest load of horseshit that I’ve ever read.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:52 pmmichaelIsRetarded
Ok, one name that really fits
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:53 pmThats the biggest load of horseshit that I’ve ever read.
Comment by TROLL TRAINER
Yeah. I thought so too. But I was just killing space. Don’t really care about it one way or the other.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:54 pmWell, MA, I see you gave your opinion of what transpired.
Meanwhile Wolfowitz was having a hissy fit that Sr. didn’t go into Baghdad. And then those PNAC folks also misunderstood your revisionist imagination, imagine that, and wrote mean letters!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:55 pmmichaelIsRetarded
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:55 pmwill be back in a minute, had to go pee off the back porch
Hey Scooter we will chalk it up to Diaper Man (R) Vitter.
Comment by Ichthus
I don’t think so,,,, I’d be willing to wager even an ADULTERER like VITTER would be willing to CEDE the CRAPHOLE that is NEW ORLEANS,,, back to FRANCE.
Even one as demented as himself is aware that NO PROGRESS has taken place there in the last 50 years and we should get out NOW!
Heck,,,,, following NEW ORLEANS example we still have 40 years of PROGRESS in IRAQ to go. (before we give up)
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:55 pmumbra, I’ve encountered bad liars here at TP, but you’ve hit a new low. Why not just claim you’re the Prime Minister of Norway, while you’re at it?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:55 pmHANG BUSH!
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:55 pmWhat he was saying was he had pasted something into the browser….’FROM‘ his spell checker.
He said “FOR” his spell checker.
And he never would have admitted he was reduced to using one, (by your’s truly) if he hadn’t made the mistake in the first place.
It means he misspelled the word “FROM” and the spell checker didn’t know what the f he was talking about, so it offered him a few options. He chose the first one, which was “for”, and thus we had his gobbledygook.
There’s not two sides to that. Thats just how it happened. Move beyond it.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:55 pmMichaelisretarded,
Even Christmas is a pagan ritual.
Didn’t Ford “cut and run” from Vietnam based on the withdrawal timeline that Kissinger and Nixon negotiated with the enemy?
Didn’t Reagan “cut and run” from Lebanon?
Should the British have “cut and run” from America? Should the Nazis have “cut and run” from occupied France?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 pmUmbra, what did you master in?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:57 pmLOL MA, Texas oil men have been paying the Taliban, long ago, to protect them thar pipelines.
And as far as the Islamic states being onboard Gates and Rices latest trip to Saudi didn’t result in any promises to help secure Iraq even with a 20bn arms package.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:58 pmcunt smear, history
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 pmAnd for the record, typo’s are not a big deal, and I make them all the time. Though not so obviously and consistently illiterate as his, but we all make typo’s. I was just having fun with him. Yanking his chain.
And quite effectively apparently, as he admitted I reduced him to using a typo.
Thanks for taking all the fun out of it.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 pmumbra what did you master in -Paps Meer
Baiting.
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 pmI suggest we get the IRAQ lawmakers and send them on a field trip to NEW ORLEANS….
To see such a CRAP HOLE in this country might WAKE them up and get them to fix thier own. (if they make it out alive)
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:00 pmIchthus
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:00 pmif you had a car, you’d knw that was a stupid statement
by the way, your name is stupid
scooter
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:01 pmwake up, i take care of my own, you want someone to take care of u?
See? I just made one. Typo was a typo. That should have read, “spell checker”.
Must have had typo’s on the brain.
And for the record? I don’t use a spell checker. Too cumbersome and slow.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:01 pmGuess you haven’t been to Oklahoma City or Detroit lately scooter.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:01 pmTROLL TRAINER
ha, ha..
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 pmBaiting.
Comment by Ichthus — September 3, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
And “How to create an Idiocracy without really trying”, 101.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:02 pmNew Orleans was a lot better under President Clinton.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:03 pmAww, I made umbra mad and he called me a 1st grade bad word.
Fact is, umbra, I have two cars.
Got projectionism?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 pmWhat is a more sinister idiology to overcome in a community…?
TRIBALISM in IRAQ
or
LIBERALISM in NEW ORLEANS..
Both are clearly leading the people in the respective areas on a path of hopelessness..
But I think in one of the situations the people are actually trying to make things better…
IT’s not NEW ORLEANS either…
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 pmIchthus
only thing they got, dont take it all away from them.
TROLL TRAINER
suks dont it
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 pm“Though Mr. Bush never left the confines of the air base on his six-hour visit, he declared: ‘I have come here today to see with our own eyes the remarkable changes that are taking place in Anbar Province.’â€
You can replace Anbar Province with New Orleans and you will have Georgie’s legacy.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:05 pmIchthus , pinto’s dont count
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:06 pmcunt smear, history
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
And, as a qualified historian, are you among the 19% who rate Bush’s presidency as a success?
http://hnn.us/articles/5019.html
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:06 pmI would say outsourcing jobs to communist countries scooter.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:07 pmscooter
wake up, i take care of my own, you want someone to take care of u?
Comment by umbra
Umbra,,,, i bet YOU do take care of your own,,,,
Why are we still taking care of NEW ORLEANS…. ?
Like IRAQ there is no PROGRESS,,, in the past, now, or in the future,,,
Let’s get out of both.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:08 pmIchthus
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 pmso unemployment at 4.3 dont count. Oh, sorry, you did what?
pintos dont count -umba
Got baseless imagination and a vega? Project your woes unto somebody else, be like umba.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 pmMr P got all worked up because Dean spoke to a crowd of Muslims about freedom while subjectively forgetting about the Iraq Freedom Operation.
It was quite funny.
Comment by Ichthus — September 3, 2007 @ 10:45 pm
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What? You mean this.
There’s nothing funny about Dems lying to Muslims and using them as pawns.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 pmsuks dont it
Comment by Dumbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:04 pm
suks2bU
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:10 pmscoote, guess what? I dont live under sea level
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:10 pmpeople fall off the unemployment rolls after 6 mos to a year umbra.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:11 pmGuess you haven’t been to Oklahoma City or Detroit lately scooter.
Comment by Ichthus
What do you mean,,,, compared to NEW ORLEANS these are BETTER places to live? WHAT
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:11 pmwow, imagative people, the vega guy got my interest, rode to work in one of those once, he’s still driviging one. had an aluminum engine if i remember
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:12 pmscoote, guess what? I dont live under sea level
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
You live under a rock.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:12 pmso whats ur point
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:13 pmHow did he lie to them Mr P?
Bush promised the Iraqis many things Mr P…guess he lied eh?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 pmWhat? You mean this.
Comment by AVGVSTVS
DO you mean that Dean telling Muslim Americans to speak up and be heard is anti-American? So now helping Americans is anti-American…..nice logic.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 pmTROLL TRAINER
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 pmso?
whats your point.
scoote, guess what? I dont live under sea level
Comment by umbra
Good,,,,, USE PHILADELPHIA (another crap hole) as your example of a location that is showing NO PROGRESS. (little tougher for us to get out of that location however)
Lots of CRAP HOLES here that have NO PROGRESS,,, why concentrate on just the failure of IRAQ and not LIBTARD run cities?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:16 pmGoogle! scooter Google! Use that brain AND your ‘puter
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:16 pmFeds are not the answer!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmwow, imagative people, the vega guy got my interest, rode to work in one of those once,
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
You claimed you fought in Viet Nam earlier tonight, and you’ve only riden in a Vega once? Everybody had Vega’s in the 70’s. Vegas and Pintos were the most popular small car out there on the American market. Everyone was driving them.
The way you just said that tells me you did not live through Viet Nam. Not as a young man anyway. And certainly not as a GI.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmHow did he lie to them Mr P?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmIf you could read, you would know. I guess that thoroughly discredits your prior statement about me getting “all worked up.”
so whats ur point
Comment by Dumbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
Your points on the top of your head.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmyou have to have some responsibility
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:18 pmYeh, ironically Mr P wants to free Iraqis and give them democracy, over there, which according to Hoekstra they dont want. But MR P gets all excited about Muslims taking part of Democracy in America, over here.
Can you spell H_Y_P_O_C_R_I_T_E Mr P?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:19 pmI read the article yesterday Mr P. If you cant point out the lie then dont.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmDoes the fact that LIBTARD run cities have not shown PROGRESS in the last 50 years, desensitize us to it?
Is the astronomical death rates in NEW ORLEANS and PHILADELPHIA (going on for a long time) easier to ignore because they have been going on so long?
Is IRAQ failure something NEW that we have not seen in our own country for the last 50 years?
We can’t focus on the failure of our cities and the LIBTARD policies behind it,,, that would not be PC…
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:20 pmyou have to have some responsibility
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:18 pm
Ah, the IRONY coming from the party of irresponsible wingnut hypocrits!!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 pmIt was pointed out to you yesterday scooter that poverty is higher in red states. Remember?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 pmTROLL TRAINER
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 pmyour so stupid and so droll, im 60 and you have to be at least 80. I dont want to be mean, but your really, really stupid. If you need meds, tell me.
If we were able to put the cities of BAGHDAD and NEW ORLEANS right next to each other as neighbors,,,,
which one would corrupt the other worse?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmAh, the wingnuts conflating their own REPUBLICAN neglect and policies that have attacked cities in favor of suburban oriented policies blaming dems, while ignoring it’s their same inept values that run Iraq. Poor scooter, is as dumb as a bag of sh!t.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmComment by Ichthus — September 3, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
So are suicides, executions and divorce.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmTO: “michaelisretarded”:
Of course your name alone says it all! But I suggest the retarded one actually READ the top paragraphs and maybe possibly he would understand.
Part of “VICTORY” is enabling a country to hold their own elections. “SUCCESS” is what’s going on now! I realize that these two big words are enemy words for libs because once we succeed and troops start coming home….you guys are out in ‘08!!!
Doesn’t look good for the left nut crowd, does it retard!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:23 pmscooter how many people die of car crashes every year? Is GM or Ford or Chrysler run out of business?
Heart attacks? Should we outlaw Mcdonalds?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmmichaelIsRetarded
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmah the irony, show me?
If we were able to put the cities of BAGHDAD and NEW ORLEANS right next to each other as neighbors,,,,
which one would corrupt the other worse?
Comment by scooter — September 3, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
The fact you have to ASK that question, demonstrates the lack of comprehension of crazy wingnuts. You’re a LOOONNNNNEEEE!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmMan, these Libs are practically braindead!
Too many drugs I guess!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:24 pmmichaelisretarded is retarded
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 pmIt was pointed out to you yesterday scooter that poverty is higher in red states. Remember?
Comment by Ichthus — September 3, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
Yeah, reality isn’t GOP friendly.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 pmMan, these Libs are practically braindead!
Too many drugs I guess!
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 11:24 pm
Coming from a METH addled redneck wingnut who murdered his ex-girlfriend because she found it he was gay – that makes you more than ‘practically’ braindead! You’re brain damaged, shiavo!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:26 pmmichaelisretarded is retarded
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
More projection from the wingnut murdering closet retard… BORING!!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:26 pmmichaelIsRetarded
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmhow stupid was your question 458, if they still vote them in?
LOL
Ice blocks global warming trip
British yachtsman Adrian Flanagan is trying to prove global warming by sailing along the Northern Sea route, which sailors have pursued for centuries.
He’s run into the same problem that sailors have run into for centuries: Ice. The Herald Sun in Australia reported:
Adrian Flanagan is discussing with Russian authorities the possibility of using a nuclear-powered icebreaker to lift his boat out of the water and carry it round the most icebound stretch of Russia’s Northern Sea Route.
“Basically it just means we’re putting plan B into operation so if the worst comes to the worst and there isn’t a break in the weather, we’ve got a plan,†Louise Flanagan, his manager and ex-wife said from Britain.
The 46-year-old entered the eastern end of the treacherous sea route that stretches from Asia to Europe across northern Russia in late July.
He had hoped that his 11m reinforced yacht would be able to get all the way to Europe due to lighter ice conditions observed in recent years, thought to be a result of global warming.
It gets better. While he is waiting for the ice to melt, old Adrian is running into polar bears, who apparently 1.) are not nearing extinction and 2.) can swim. This may come as a shock to devout followers of the New York Times.
I blame the Prius drivers. Get an SUV, keep the planet nice and toasty. But just to be safe, has Al Gore visited the Arctic recently?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmParis Hilton is a Republican Mr P. And certainly drives, drugged, like one.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmTROLL TRAINER
your so stupid and so droll, im 60 and you have to be at least 80. I dont want to be mean, but your really, really stupid. If you need meds, tell me.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
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How many times do I have to tell you?
It’s “you’re so stupid”… stupid.
You’re. Not your.
You’re.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 pmLOL MIR
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmIt was pointed out to you yesterday scooter that poverty is higher in red states. Remember?
Comment by Ichthus
OK,,, does that make NEW ORLEANS less of a CRAP HOLE? Should we not concentrate on the LACK of PROGRESS in our own country because RED STATES have higher poverty?
If RED STATES have higher poverty does that make it OK to give LIBTARD policies a pass in the cities? Are not the cities where poverty is acute?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmHey Frank. Bozo.
The Global Warming thread is elsewhere.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmmichaelIsRetarded
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmwas that a threat?
michaelIsRetarded is on drugs
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:28 pmmichaelIsRetarded what are you blabbering about?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmtroll droll, let me say i dont care if its ‘re
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmAnd by the way Dumbra.
The only thing about you thats 60, is your IQ.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 pmI get this thread…moonbats want America to lose because they hate Bush…yawn……
This is just too funny.
Ice blocks global warming trip
British yachtsman Adrian Flanagan is trying to prove global warming by sailing along the Northern Sea route, which sailors have pursued for centuries.
He’s run into the same problem that sailors have run into for centuries: Ice. The Herald Sun in Australia reported:
Adrian Flanagan is discussing with Russian authorities the possibility of using a nuclear-powered icebreaker to lift his boat out of the water and carry it round the most icebound stretch of Russia’s Northern Sea Route.
“Basically it just means we’re putting plan B into operation so if the worst comes to the worst and there isn’t a break in the weather, we’ve got a plan,†Louise Flanagan, his manager and ex-wife said from Britain.
The 46-year-old entered the eastern end of the treacherous sea route that stretches from Asia to Europe across northern Russia in late July.
He had hoped that his 11m reinforced yacht would be able to get all the way to Europe due to lighter ice conditions observed in recent years, thought to be a result of global warming.
It gets better. While he is waiting for the ice to melt, old Adrian is running into polar bears, who apparently 1.) are not nearing extinction and 2.) can swim. This may come as a shock to devout followers of the New York Times.
I blame the Prius drivers. Get an SUV, keep the planet nice and toasty. But just to be safe, has Al Gore visited the Arctic recently?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 pmTROLL TRAINER
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 pmlot higher than yours isnt it
scooter how many people die of car crashes every year? Is GM or Ford or Chrysler run out of business?
Heart attacks? Should we outlaw Mcdonalds?
Comment by Ichthus — September
If they commit murder on purpose (like large #’s of folks in NEW ORLEANS and IRAQ, and the corresponding corruption) THEN yes….
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 pmHave you been to New Orleans sooter? Until you do your not subjecting your senses to it. Mr P says so.
So nanner neener boob boob
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 pmumbra sez:
Why, umbra? Do you feel threatened?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 pmtroll droll, let me say i dont care if its ‘re
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:29 pm
Thats because you didn’t know it was ‘re.
A 60 year old man would not make that mistake. An illiterate teen, would.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 pmyour so stupid and so droll, im 60 and you have to be at least 80. I dont want to be mean, but your really, really stupid. If you need meds, tell me.
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
Once again you’re intelligence is an example for all of us. I think Karl would be proud of you’re achievements!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 pmLOL
Ice blocks global warming trip
British yachtsman Adrian Flanagan is trying to prove global warming by sailing along the Northern Sea route, which sailors have pursued for centuries.
He’s run into the same problem that sailors have run into for centuries: Ice. The Herald Sun in Australia reported:
Adrian Flanagan is discussing with Russian authorities the possibility of using a nuclear-powered icebreaker to lift his boat out of the water and carry it round the most icebound stretch of Russia’s Northern Sea Route.
“Basically it just means we’re putting plan B into operation so if the worst comes to the worst and there isn’t a break in the weather, we’ve got a plan,†Louise Flanagan, his manager and ex-wife said from Britain.
The 46-year-old entered the eastern end of the treacherous sea route that stretches from Asia to Europe across northern Russia in late July.
He had hoped that his 11m reinforced yacht would be able to get all the way to Europe due to lighter ice conditions observed in recent years, thought to be a result of global warming.
It gets better. While he is waiting for the ice to melt, old Adrian is running into polar bears, who apparently 1.) are not nearing extinction and 2.) can swim. This may come as a shock to devout followers of the New York Times.
I blame the Prius drivers. Get an SUV, keep the planet nice and toasty. But just to be safe, has Al Gore visited the Arctic recently?
Comment by Frank J — September 3, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
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Hilarious!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 pmMICHAEL,,,
For you when it comes to crap holes,, NEW ORLEANS, IRAQ,,,,, PROGRESS is relative right?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 pmActually Frank J Bush said we can now reduce troop levels. Since he saw it with our eyes.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 pmFrank J, that tripe wasn’t worth posting once, let alone twice. Exercise some self-control.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 pmTripMaster Monkey
poor poor poor, just a question
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 pmComment by Frank J — September 3, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
Yeah, I don’t see what all the fuss is about. I mean, it was down to 68 here last night. Global warming my a$$!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:35 pmHave you been to New Orleans sooter? Until you do your not subjecting your senses to it. Mr P says so.
So nanner neener boob boob
Comment by Ichthus
Don’t think i’d like to go to NEW ORLEANS, PHILADELPHIA, or IRAQ….. although you can clearly go to these places in locations where the AUTHORITIES say it’s OK.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:35 pmMitch McConnell will be back in the Senate this week. Last Tuesday night, as part of the Iraq Summer campaign, 800 people met in Louisville to demand that McConnell vote to end this god-awful War.
At the end of the meeting, 300+ people marched one mile, in 90+ degree heat, to McConnell’s house. It was breathtaking and historic to see so many people on a Tuesday night chanting for Mitch to End the War. Folks, if this is happening in Kentucky, Bush’s War is over.
So no wonder our boy George made another “surprise” visit to Iraq for a photo-op complete with our troops as a prop in nice earth tones. Very well choreographed, Rove. Is anyone out there so stupid to fall for another Bush stunt? We can hope Americans are finally waking up.
Meanwhile, help us Ditch Mitch in 2008.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:35 pmoh your suprised that the “troops” cheered bush?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:36 pmIn other words, when we begin to draw down troops from Iraq, it will be from a position of strength and success, not from a position of fear and failure. To do otherwise would embolden our enemies and make it more likely that they would attack us at home.
PRESIDENT George W. Bush
Keep up the great work, President Bush!!!
You fellow countrymen and women owe you a debt of gratitude!!!
Thanks!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:36 pmI’m with you AVGVSTVS!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:38 pmoh your suprised that the “troops†cheered bush?
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
OK, Umbra, seriously: what’s your level of education? Seriously? Don’t lie this time!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:38 pmWas RAY NAGIN’s claim to keep the city of NEW ORLEANS CHOCOLATE progress?
Heck even MALIKI in IRAQ has not come out and said the city of BAGHDAD is for SHIITE’s and not SUNNI’s.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:39 pmumbra sez:
???
That makes no sense at all, dolt.
Next time, instead of typing one-handed while using the other hand to keep the huffing rag clamped tightly to your face, just wait until you have both hands free. The added speed is not worth the rambling idiocy.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:39 pmoh your suprised that the “troops†cheered bush?
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
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You’re a bad pupil.
And no. I’m not surprised that the “troops” cheered Bush. The ones they let into the press briefings are all handpicked for just that purpose.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:39 pmIn other words, when we begin to draw down troops from Iraq, it will be from a position of strength and success, not from a position of fear and failure.
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Keep yourself in denial. It doesn’t matter when we leave. Our enemies will use our withdrawal as propaganda no matter when it happens.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:39 pmWhy scooter, I’m only giving you the subjective wisdom that Mr President of trolls wants you to have.
I can go into really bad neighborhoods right here in Red State Texas.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmI’m with you AVGVSTVS!!!
Comment by Mike — September 3, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
America is with us too, except for the kook-fringe moonbats here at TP and other anti-American hate-sites.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:40 pmpaps meer
you gotta ge kidding?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:41 pmyou gotta ge kidding?
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:41 pm
No child left behind! Eh, Umbra?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:42 pmI should not be so hard on NEW ORLEANS…..
They do have some PROGRESS,,,, look at the SAINTS.
Now thats progress.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:42 pmComment by paps meer — September 3, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
What’s your problem, jerk?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:42 pmi left an area for TROLL TRAINER, i will find him tonight
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmVery funny tonight. Scooter is on his racist rant, AVGVSTVS is making up outrageous lies that have no basis in fact, umbra is either p or pretending to be p, Mike hasn’t seen any honest news out or Iraq since 1971, or he would know that a free election there means Sharia law, and Bushco wont allow it; and they’re all melting down at once. Face it, you’re all failures, like your GOP traitors, and all cowards, over here posting away instead of walking point in Anbar. Scream at the top of your typing fingers, kids, Iraq is lost, and there’s nothing you will do about it. It’s lost because of your cowardice and Bush’s laziness, and Rice’s incompetence, and rumsfeld’s insaity. it’s lost because Cheney followed the directives of PNAC, a group of admitted, proud liars who think they are Lex Luthor taking over the world, making it safe for fat, old white morons. The right has broken America, especially its military, but also its reputation and effectiveness. All the lies about new Orleans and Philadelphia demonstrate how much you hate Americans, people who have done nothing to you, people who have been screwed for generations by the rich, greedy Gross Old Pervert party. Reading through this thread is evidence that the right wing has gone completely bonkers, and should be marginalized and neutered, before they destroy America completely. They are no different from the Nazis, just not as smart of courageous.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmAVGVSTVS sez;
You mean that pesky 74% of the nation’s population?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmscooter Malaki speant his exile in Syria and still holds alot of ill will toward the Sunnis. He has not been effective. Why even Bush has attended meetings where the talk on the hill is that even with space [Security] he would not be effective.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 pmronjazz does meth with “michaelisRetarded”
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:44 pmYou mean that pesky 74% of the nation’s population?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 3, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
That ain’t you, twoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooofer.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmSounds like semantics. Dems want to define success as completion, whereas Reps want to define success as progress towards completion.
Give that Al-Sadr has called a cease-fire against coalition forces, and Sunni insurgents are being routed, things seem to be looking up.
Germany, Japan and Korea took many years to stabilize and develop – Iraq will be no different.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmAVGVSTVS sez:
His problem is that umbra claims to have received a master’s degree, but cannot type a cogent sentence. His problem is that umbra is quite clearly a liar.
What’s your problem?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmWhy scooter, I’m only giving you the subjective wisdom that Mr President of trolls wants you to have.
I can go into really bad neighborhoods right here in Red State Texas.
Comment by Ichthus
You most certainly can….. of course they are the cities with LIBTARD policies. You just ignore this little fact and keep reminding yourself that RED STATES are bad.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 pmThat ain’t you, twoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooofer.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
Says mr. 26%, HEHE, what a dumb ass!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmAVGVSTVS
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmwasnt what it was last week, oh ten weeks ago, i got it
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — September 3, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
Don’t be fooled by Sadr’s claim, he is still a lying murderous Arab.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:46 pmMr P the only thing that chnaged in that speech is Bush is now admitting that he is gonna reduce troops.
It used to be were fighting them over there so we dont have to fight them ove here.
The it was if we leave they will follow us home,
Now, its they wont follow us home if we leave with our heads held high.
You cant LOSE a freeom operation. If the Iraqis wont stand up they wont stand up. We will leave as we came. Americans, Proud ones.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:48 pmAVGVSTVS
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:48 pmtrue islamic
AVGVSTVS sez:
Yup…by all means, continue to refer to me by that ridiculous pejorative term…the more ‘o’s, the better. Just don’t actually try to engage me on any discussion of substance…things generally don’t go well for you when you try to sit at the adults’ table.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmtrue islamic
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
huh?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmAgreed “AVG…”!!
Libs have tried to brainwash people into thinking that there was a “referendum” in November about the Iraq war but I hate to break the news to the left nut libs….it didn’t happen!!! Only in their left minds!
Basically the American people believe in conservative values. Sites like this one and the other far, far left Soros orgs are NOT indicative of the true feelings of the American people.
WHat the lib media does (or tries to do) is to come up with their own “pools” that “supposedly” reflect the nation’s viewpoint but the truth is it DOES NOT because the polls are set up to prove whatever the lib pollsters want them to prove and then the lib media takes this and uses it as if it’s the real pulse of the people when it’s not even close. I know this first hand as I used to work for a fairly large polling group and I could tell you stories that would shock even far left libs!!!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmComment by paps meer — September 3, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
What’s your problem, jerk?
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 3, 2007 @ 11:42 pm
My problem is someone claiming credibility they clearly don’t have.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:49 pmComment by Ichthus — September 3, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
He is going to reduce troops, when the job is done.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmRON,,,, good to have you back,,,
It’s always nice to have somebody IGNORE the 50 years of assistance that the cities run by LIBTARDS have been receiving…
Whats so bad about giving IRAQ just a few years?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmGermany, Japan and Korea took many years to stabilize and develop – Iraq will be no different.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — September 3, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
Lies, Hendler, you Nazi prick. lies, damned lies. You either are really and ignorant shit or a liar of amazing proportions. Germany and Japan took a few months to stabilize, with little resistance or shooting at American GIs. You’re a fool if you think there is any comparison between the leadership of a great patriot like FDR and the bumbling, murderous screwups of Bush and his company of loyalists morons.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmi left an area for TROLL TRAINER, i will find him tonight
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
Left an area for TROLL TRAINER? Will find him tonight?
Hmm. Are you trying to threaten me in some way? If so, you’ll need to write a little better than that.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:50 pmpaps meer is gonna cry….
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:51 pmso stupid he cant breathe
Don’t be fooled by Sadr’s claim, he is still a lying murderous Arab. -Mr P
He may be murderous, justas the Sunnis were, but he is a nationalist Iraq first and not intent on letting Iran fill the vacuum. If he stnadsup great, if not, then ciao.
Currently the N Irish are having talks with the Sunni and Shiia representatives.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:51 pmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6977190.stm
We will leave as we came. Americans, Proud ones.
Comment by Ichthus — September 3, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
And defeated, Proud of our inability to get it right. typical rightard, lie to yourself as well as others.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmTROLL TRAINER
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmno threat, im an old man, are you afaraid
Comment by Mike — September 3, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
That’s why no one really listens to these wackos! I have never heard or read anything as crazy, and, let’s face it, traitorous as the comments and posts that are on these nutroots websites!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmIt is absolutely impossible that someone mastered in history at Georgetown if they do not know the difference between “there” and “their”. Absolutely impossible.
And look at a graph of the unemployment rate going from Carter-Reagan-GHWB-Clinton-GWB. You will see that Clinton did far better than W or Poppy and Carter did better than Reagan.
As long as records have been kept (87 years), whenever we have gone from Republican president to Democratic, the job growth rate has improved. Everytime we have gone from Democratic president to Republican, it has worsened.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 pmno threat, im an old man, are you afaraid
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
I would put it no higher than amused.
And the only thing old about you is your underwear.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:53 pmmike their is no lib media, the big ten are all Republican owned.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:54 pmJeebus, thats pundit mythology.
kieth, your logic sucks and you know it
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:54 pmTROLL TRAINER ok, you cant suck on it anymore
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 pmtrue islamic
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Umbra, do you mean al-Sadr is a true islamic?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 pmI’m not “afaraid” of you.
:D
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 pmDid you all know that the cities (majority black) are suffering because BUSH hates BLACK people.
Did you also know that the ASIANS are more successful than WHITEY because BUSH loves ASIANS more than WHITES. (how ironic a minority succeeding better than the oppressors who are suppossed to be holding them down)
That evil bush…… damn him
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 pmBut I am “afaraid” you can’t spell worth a shit, for a man claiming to be 60.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:56 pmNo one can be that dumb, can you ICHTHUS?????
NYT; LAT; Bost GLOBE; WAPO. Want more!
Suggestion: go back to first grade and learn spelling and then pay attention in school!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmTROLL TRAINER
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmyou threatened me,
You think Im a righty ronjazz?
Bwahaha.
Mr P I guess Bush is a traitor cause, as you posted, he says we can reduce troops? I guess Warner is a traitor, and Hoekstra is a traitor?
You guys and this liberal media myth crap crack me up.
The media is centristm, it is combative, it creates controversy, it is corporatae and for profit!
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmBasically the American people believe in conservative values. Sites like this one and the other far, far left Soros orgs are NOT indicative of the true feelings of the American people.
WHat the lib media does (or tries to do) is to come up with their own “pools†that “supposedly†reflect the nation’s viewpoint but the truth is it DOES NOT because the polls are set up to prove whatever the lib pollsters want them to prove and then the lib media takes this and uses it as if it’s the real pulse of the people when it’s not even close. I know this first hand as I used to work for a fairly large polling group and I could tell you stories that would shock even far left libs!!!
You’re a liar, and a bad one. this country was founded as a liberal democratic republic. Founded by liberals under liberal principles, revolting against king george, a conservative, rightwing dictator. American people are lazy and stupid if they believe in conservative values, because conservatives don’t live by those values, they just sell them to the poor, stupid American that scares easily. Republican voters have lower IQs that liberal voters, and on top of that, republicans have stolen 3 of the last four elections, so your point is a lie, and a cheap one at that.
Nice try. I’m not an idiotic rightard that will buy that crap, go see AVGVSTVS or scooter, they’re brain-dead and racist enough to believe your lies.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 pmSo they didn’t have schools back when you were a kid or something?
Or did it take you 60 years to get this dumb?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 pmyou threatened me,
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
And where was that?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 pmI get this thread…moonbats want America to lose because they hate Bush…yawn……
Comment by Frank J — September 3, 2007 @ 11:31 pm
You have it wrong, Spanky, the progressives hate Bush because he is mentally challenged just like his apologists. Dubya is a thug and his administrtion is a crime family and his thirty percent base are idiots. To away, you are a troll with nothing to add. Go enlist, hero.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:59 pmTROLL TRAINER
September 4th, 2007 at 12:00 amlets get it on
I don’t think recommending purchasing a Speak-n-Spell constitutes a threat skippy.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:00 amill come to you
September 4th, 2007 at 12:00 ampaps meer is gonna cry….
so stupid he cant breathe
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Umbra, I’m just having a problem understanding how someone with a master’s degree could be at your literacy level. Either:
1) You’re lying
September 4th, 2007 at 12:00 amOR
2) You were REALLY good at sports
Lies, Hendler, you Nazi prick. lies, damned lies. You either are really and ignorant shit or a liar of amazing proportions. Germany and Japan took a few months to stabilize, with little resistance or shooting at American GIs. You’re a fool if you think there is any comparison between the leadership of a great patriot like FDR and the bumbling, murderous screwups of Bush and his company of loyalists morons.
Comment by ronjazz
RON,,,, in WW2,,, when we were not held hostage to LIBTARD war rules, we bombed DRESDEN and killed 80,000 civilians in 1 night. (the threat of mass extinction of ALL GERMANS led them to believe that shooting at GI’s was not such a good idea)
In IRAQ,,,, a MURDER of 1 IRAQI is front page news and used to undermine the war effort…
September 4th, 2007 at 12:01 amNew LIBTARD war rules mean FDR was a SAINT, BUSH is the DEVIL….
give me directions, ill be there
September 4th, 2007 at 12:01 amTROLL TRAINER
lets get it on
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Sorry, I don’t swing that way.
But you might try Larry Craig. I’d start with the Boise airport mens room.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:01 amgive me directions, ill be there
September 4th, 2007 at 12:01 amLies, Hendler, you Nazi prick. lies, damned lies. You either are really and ignorant shit or a liar of amazing proportions. Germany and Japan took a few months to stabilize, with little resistance or shooting at American GIs. You’re a fool if you think there is any comparison between the leadership of a great patriot like FDR and the bumbling, murderous screwups of Bush and his company of loyalists morons.
Comment by ronjazz
RON,,,, in WW2,,, when we were not held hostage to LIBTARD war rules, we bombed DRESDEN and killed 80,000 civilians in 1 night. (the threat of mass extinction of ALL GERMANS led them to believe that shooting at GI’s was not such a good idea)
In IRAQ,,,, a MURDER of 1 IRAQI is front page news and used to undermine the war effort…
September 4th, 2007 at 12:01 amNew LIBTARD war rules mean FDR was a SAINT, BUSH is the DEVIL….
kieth, your logic sucks and you know it
Comment by umbra — September 3, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
You mean when you said how well W has done with employment and I said there is a mountain of evidence against that? Clinton created 22 million jobs, the greatest economic expansion in US history, going from recrod deficits to record surpluses. W has created 5 million low-wage jobs and took us from record surpluses to record deficits.
Tell what I have said that is not true?
Someone with a masters in history from Georgetown could spell “you’re” or “Keith”.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:02 amSuggestion: go back to first grade and learn spelling and then pay attention in school!
Comment by Mike
http://www.thenation.com/special/bigten.html
Big Corporations
Yeh? Well learn to read instead of listening to pundits, mike.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:02 amTROLL TRAINER is a fag
September 4th, 2007 at 12:02 amgive me directions, ill be there
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Sure.
2700 Martin Luther King Jr. Avenue, SE
September 4th, 2007 at 12:04 amWashington, DC.
TROLL TRAINER
September 4th, 2007 at 12:04 amtalk to me, i will be there
scooter, google operation polo step.
The Republican plan was a badly planned one from the get go.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:04 amronjazz:
My suggestion is that you study your history lesson tonight and do some reading because you have absolutely no idea what you even said although you have, withour knowing it of course, given a pretty damned good description of libs and lib values and THEIR con job by keeping minorities always being minorities because if they would ever rise above this it’s proven that they all turn conservative.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:04 amTROLL TRAINER is a fag
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:02 am
I’m a cigarette?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:04 amyou think im stupid, give me your address
September 4th, 2007 at 12:05 amright
September 4th, 2007 at 12:05 amNobody wants America to lose more than those that support the LOSER Bush, architect of the 9/11 failure, leader of a cabal of thieves and liars that make the Politburo look clean and righteous. Bush has been in the Saudi’s back pocket for decades, as his granpa was in Hitler’s. The Bush family is the leading family of traitors in America, and will replace Benedict Arnold as the #1 American traitors. The tiny handful of Bush supporters that are left are the dregs of society, the losers and suckers that Bush manipulated and scared into sucking his flaccid little dick while on their knees, and then thanked him. Look at the lunatics representing the right here, obviously socially rejected, and intellectually challenged. The capper, of course, is how cowardly they all are, refusing to back their hero or the troops they claim to care so much about. Their days are numbered, their time in the majority nearly over, and when it is, we will rebuild this country and make it a proud and free nation again, and even these undeserving scum rightards will benefit.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:06 amGeneral Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker tell me if the kind of success we are now seeing continues, it is possible to maintain the same level of security with fewer American forces,” Bush said.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:07 amonjazz
September 4th, 2007 at 12:07 amstupid!
you think im stupid, give me your address
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:05 am
:|
I gave you an address. Don’t like it? Give me your address mouth. Post your address, here on the internet, for a complete stranger and the thousands of other complete strangers that will view it.
I dare you.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:07 am2700 Martin Luther King Jr. Avenue, SE
Washington, DC.
Be there or be square.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:08 amIchthus :
Ah, the NATION as your source!! Want me to use FOX NEWS as mine???
Hey dummy, I don’t need any web site to prove my point. So will YOU please give me the Top 10 U.S. newspapers and their leanings, ok. Go!!
September 4th, 2007 at 12:08 amHey umbra, you trying to be a woman like Ann Coulter and make baseless personal attacks?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:08 amComment by Ichthus — September 3, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Your comment doesn’t make any sense. Please rephrase, and, if you can, cite the comment of mine of which you are referring.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:09 amumbra, tell me what I said that was false.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:09 am18 valley river ave
andrews nc, 28907
really love to see you, by the way a med center is close by
September 4th, 2007 at 12:09 amdon’t anybody mention the fact that ASIANS as a RACE are successful compared to BLACKS.
Thus race based LIBTARD run GOVT. programs for BLACKS and not ASIANS…..
If you acknowledge the above, and the LIBTARD policies that keep BLACKS in poverty and voting 80% FOR the libtards then……
CONGRATULATIONS,,, you can be a racist too….
September 4th, 2007 at 12:09 amronjazz = meth-head
September 4th, 2007 at 12:09 amplease give me the Top 10 U.S. newspapers and their leanings, ok. Go!! Comment by Mike
I dont read them. Your the one thats claiming ‘liberal media” this and that. Its hyperbole.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:10 amronjazz:
It is so damned boring reading your lib talking points! Hey, I have an idea pal. Why don’t YOU come up with something ORIGINAL that actually has some credence behind it??????
September 4th, 2007 at 12:11 amAugustus,
you are the one who goes without sleep and sounds like a methfreak.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:12 amronjazz = meth-head
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Is that you Ann Coulter?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:12 amIchthus:
What then DO you read scholar boy?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:12 amscooter are you back on your Blacks Vs ‘cute’ Asian diatribe again?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:13 amRon,,,
your a racist for wanting to pull our troops out of helping another RACE….
YOU RACIST! (don’t you know they are a minority)
September 4th, 2007 at 12:14 amProgressives hate the NYT, WashPost, LAT, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. for helping the White House lie and cheerlead us into this war. Anti-war voices were not allowed in the mainstream media. They were reporting dubious, single-source intel as facts.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:15 am18 valley river ave
andrews nc, 28907
really love to see you, by the way a med center is close by
Comment by Dumbo — September 4, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Nice try Magellan. Unfortunately according to mapquest, nothing is close by, because the address doesn’t exist.
:O
September 4th, 2007 at 12:15 amIchthus
September 4th, 2007 at 12:15 amyou really dont want to meet ann, your so stupid, she’d kill you
Keith
What are you on?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:16 amTROLL TRAINERl not a prob, let me know
September 4th, 2007 at 12:17 amyour a racist for wanting to pull our troops out of helping another RACE….
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:14 am
If you think we went there to help them or if you think that we are helping them———then you are living in cuckooland.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:18 amscooter is just as unhinged as The Joker was and his inability to write coherent sentences is very similar to The Joker.
There must be something about late nights that brings out the truly psychotic trolls — of course, Mr Pee is here 18 hours a day because he has no life and has that great DSL account of his mom’s to access, but night time is definitely lunatic troll time at TP.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:18 amIchthus: What then DO you read scholar boy?
Comment by Mike
I read alot. But I read a little of everything IE: I dont pick what I read because of its political leanings. All that does is muddle up the picture.
I also dont watch TV.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:18 amscooter are you back on your Blacks Vs ‘cute’ Asian diatribe again?
Comment by Ichthus
I came up with CUTE to help YOU out….
In order to believe YOUR LIBTARD race based crap you need discrimination to be involved.
ASIANS being more successful than all other RACES leaves your discrimination idea in the dumps….
UNLESS,,,,, DRUM ROLL,,,, ASIANS do well because they are CUTE and society does not want to discriminate against CUTE people.
So ,,,, there is still discrimination against BLACKS AND we know how ASIANS do well…
USE IT…. it’s all ya got
September 4th, 2007 at 12:18 amyou want a email?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:18 amYour comment doesn’t make any sense. Please rephrase, and, if you can, cite the comment of mine of which you are referring.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 12:09 am
You requiring others to ‘cite’ – RIGHTEOUSLY IRONIC AND FUNNY – Mr. Pee’s on himself!
September 4th, 2007 at 12:19 amKeith
What are you on?
Comment by Mike — September 4, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Tell what I said that you think is false and why.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:19 amAnyone with a masters from Georgetown would know that it’s “an email”.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:20 amyou really dont want to meet ann, your so stupid, she’d kill you
Comment by umbra
How? By resorting to elementary tactics and calling me a pork meatball? She throws nothing but insults from what I have read of her works.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:20 amI came up with CUTE to help YOU out…. Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:18 am
We can see you’re using Sen. Craig’s dating dictionary!
In order to believe YOUR LIBTARD race based crap you need discrimination to be involved. Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Ah, another wingnut trying to explain away their fascist, neonazi racism…
ASIANS being more successful than all other RACES leaves your discrimination idea in the dumps…. Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Is that why Asia has more people in poverty than any other continent?
UNLESS,,,,, DRUM ROLL,,,, ASIANS do well because they are CUTE and society does not want to discriminate against CUTE people. Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Ah, another stupid comment, from a stupid wingnut.
So ,,,, there is still discrimination against BLACKS AND we know how ASIANS do well…
USE IT…. it’s all ya got
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Asians are discriminated against lots in the US, if you don’t believe it, ask some – you ignorant idiot.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:21 amMy suggestion is that you study your history lesson tonight and do some reading because you have absolutely no idea what you even said although you have, withour knowing it of course, given a pretty damned good description of libs and lib values and THEIR con job by keeping minorities always being minorities because if they would ever rise above this it’s proven that they all turn conservative.
Comment by Mike — September 4, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Any facts to back that up, or just more of your wishful thinking? look, Mike, I understand you’re afraid of minorities, your party has always scapegoated the poor and downtrodden, creating monsters where families are just trying to get by, but your racism is no excuse for lying to me or yourself. Liberals moved millions out of the abject poverty and virtual slavery of the rightwing pigs of the Industrial Revolution, liberals gave women the vote, liberals freed children from working in killing conditions for 12 hours a a day, liberals won WW2, liberals founded America, for pete’s sake. Sure, some minorities turn conservative if they end up making a lot of money, because some people don’t have the strength of character to remember their roots, and some people are swayed by material gain, and distorted by fear, but they are weak people of low character. Republicans have always played on the fears and weaknesses of people, that’s why they have always been against public education and affirmative action. Republicans hate paying their bills, Republicans hate paying to use the services and infrastructure America provides to all. Republicans are people without moral centers, and are missing compassion and kindness. They are broken humans, lacking in human and Christian qualities, at least modern Republicans are, but I think it’s always been that way. Liberals aren’t perfect, but they are so far ahead of conservatives because the KNOW they aren’t perfect, and work on improving themselves and their fellow citizens conditions. So your characterization of the problems of cities and liberals are just propaganda and lies, and all the fact and figures prove it. And the idea that the media is liberal is laughable on its face. The liberal media has been gone for over 30 years now, much to America’s detriment. If there were a liberal media, Bush wuld have been impeached and convicted and tossed out on his ass after his 9/11 failure.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:21 amyou want a email?
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Do you mean do I want “an email”?
Why?
I already have nude photos of your mom.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:22 amAnd I’m not interested in new ones.
My eyes are still bleeding from the last batch.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:23 ami never called you names, you have my address, i would like to meet the stupi person who thinks he has the right’s to take up time about his thoughts. some stupid people here
September 4th, 2007 at 12:23 amBARTLEBEE your so stupid
September 4th, 2007 at 12:25 amSo ,,,, there is still discrimination against BLACKS AND we know how ASIANS do well…
I suppose your following the code word ‘liberal’ that Limbaugh uses? That is poor, black and on welfare?
Your theory of ‘Cute’ needs alot of work. Many mexican girls are ‘cute’ and they still suffer about the same amount as poverty as blacks do.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:25 amsome stupid people here
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:23 am
You’re proof of that.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:25 amscooter
Who do you think you are to judge if one race is superior to another….You still have not answered my question from yesterday: What would progress in Iraq be?
You are for this so called war, but you will not sign up to fight and you do not even know what PROGRESS would be for this massacre/invasion/occupation you call war.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:26 amSo why don’t you admit you are very, very stupid, so stupid you have no right to make judgments and apologize to the Black community.
ronjazz yeah, your right. duh
September 4th, 2007 at 12:26 amIt’s “you’re so stupid” not “your so stupid”!
Learning is not your strong point.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:27 amMichael,,,,
ASIANS have so much discrimination against them that they are more successful than the WHITES that are supposed to be doing all the discrimination.
Deal with the fact that ASIANS as a RACE in this COUNTRY do exceedingly well. (i hope you can as the NAACP is having fits about it)
Apparently,,,, some of the BLACKS on the plantation are moving into the masters quarters in unbelievable %’s.
These BLACKS turn out to be ASIANS,,,,,
Now retard,,,, tell me how ASIANS are now different than BLACKS as a RACE in this country. LOVE TO HEAR IT…. (can you hear the laughter MICHAEL)
September 4th, 2007 at 12:27 am“you’re right” not “your right” in the context in which you used it.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:28 amKeith “duh”
September 4th, 2007 at 12:28 am“…this country was founded as a liberal democratic republic. Founded by liberals under liberal principles, revolting against king george, a conservative, rightwing dictator....”
Comment by Ronjazz
Ron – Like the vast majority of Leftards, you confuse Classical Liberalism with Contemporary Liberals/Progressives. Nice try! Contemporary progressives try to claim the Founders philosophy when they would never have had the guts to fight the fight…..no, those folks took off and ran to Canada. Contemporary conservatives wish to conserve and preserve the freedom of the Founders. The evidence of this is the hatred modern leftards have for original construction of the Constitution (1st and 2nd Amendments.) Only in “finding” rights never enumerated can leftards stomach the Constitution.
Let’s look at the facts. You refer to King George as a “…a conservative, rightwing dictator.” No.…he was a member of a familial monarchy. The “liberals” you refer to were angry about taxes and no representation in Parliament. The Classical Liberals who founded this great country believed we were endowed by Our Creater with unalienable rights of freedom and responsibility. They believed in tariffs and no income tax. (Tariffs does NOT mean redistributing wealth.)
And….when it’s not convenient to love our country, leftards bash the Founders when a healthy dose of guilt is called for. I’ve never understood the revisionist appeal of judging 18th century people with contemporary values.
Leftists are attracted top the Left for several reasons:
1.) If wealthy, libtards wallow in their collective guilt – not enough to give more to charity, but enough to assuage their “angst”.
2.) If poor, leftards ENVY everybody who has more than themselves.
3.) Attainment of power – - THAT is the bottom line.
Please refer to yourself as a Classical Liberal ….maybe some true classical liberalism will rub off on you….
September 4th, 2007 at 12:28 amyour a racist for wanting to pull our troops out of helping another RACE….
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:14 am
I posted the link that Bush said we could reduce troops and keep the same level of security, did you not see that? Are you calling the CIC a racist?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:28 amhttp://rawstory.com/news/afp/Bush_says_fewer_troops_needed_to_ma_09032007.html
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Bush_says_fewer_troops_needed_to_ma_09032007.html
So ,,,, there is still discrimination against BLACKS AND we know how ASIANS do well…
I suppose your following the code word ‘liberal’ that Limbaugh uses? That is poor, black and on welfare?
Your theory of ‘Cute’ needs alot of work. Many mexican girls are ‘cute’ and they still suffer about the same amount as poverty as blacks do.
Comment by Ichthus
USING the example of ANY successful minority that is SUPPOSED to suffer discrimination,, but is more successful than all others is sufficient…ASIANS,,,
They are in the MASTERS house according to the NAACP
September 4th, 2007 at 12:30 amHmmm, lets link to the demo bs, as well?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:30 amBARTLEBEE your so stupid
Comment by Dumbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:25 am
I’m not the one claiming to be 60 who can’t form simple contractions.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:30 amContemporary progressives try to claim the Founders philosophy when they would never have had the guts to fight the fight…..no,
They were fighting the fight MA on Washingtons side, it was the Tories {as in conservatoires} that rooted for King George.
Please get your facts straight.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:31 amronjazz yeah, your right. duh
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:26 am
Well, umbra, you certainly are grammatically challenged. i don’t know if that reflects stupidity or mental laziness, but either way, it puts you at a disadvantage. The occasional typo befalls everyone, but you consistently screw up the simplest constructions and spellings. This is a characteristic of many rightwingers, especially the lower ranks, the ones that the fatcats use and abuse with their fear-mongering and propaganda. You guys are dumb enough to fall for it, and vote against your own self-interests, and against what’s best for your country and countrymen. it’s too bad, you could have much beter lives if you would free yourselves from the subservience to very rich, very greedy men that don’t care a whit about you, or the troops they so gleefully send to their deaths in the sand.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:32 amyour choice, would really love to meet you, let me know, ill be there
September 4th, 2007 at 12:32 amIt’s “you’re so stupid†not “your so stupidâ€!
Learning is not your strong point.
Comment by Keith — September 4, 2007 @ 12:27 am
You can say that again. I just gave up on him.
Its going to take an entire team of linguists to get this turkey talking like a 3rd grader.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:32 amContemporary conservatives wish to conserve and preserve the freedom of the Founders.
Comment by m.a.
You mean like doing away with the entire Bill of Rights.
If it were not for liberals, you would not even have the right to vote.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:32 amscooter
Who do you think you are to judge if one race is superior to another….You still have not answered my question from yesterday: What would progress in Iraq be?
You are for this so called war, but you will not sign up to fight and you do not even know what PROGRESS would be for this massacre/invasion/occupation you call war.
So why don’t you admit you are very, very stupid, so stupid you have no right to make judgments and apologize to the Black community.
Comment by had enough
SURE BUDDY,,,,
September 4th, 2007 at 12:33 amignore why ASIANS are where they are and BLACKS are where they are….. this keeps the NAACP in power and LIBTARDS getting the votes…
WHY is not race based crap admitting that ONE race is INFERRIOR to the other?
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007
Google the ’sex slave trade’ and you will see many cute Asians being abused.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:33 amronjazz, sorry if you are such a mommys boy.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:33 amronjazz, sorry if you are such a mommys boy.
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:33 am
Yea. Too bad its your mom.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:34 amAnd so MA, was it not the progressives that put an end to child labor?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:34 amBARTLEBEE sorry, but its the only thing you know, gotta keep doing it. your so stupid i cant beleve it.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:35 amAnd today, MA, we have many conservatives behind this Federalist, leadership principle, executibe theory.
You do realize from where this theory comes?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:36 amok you can pick ur mom up now
September 4th, 2007 at 12:36 amits the only thing you know, gotta keep doing it. your so stupid i cant beleve it.
Comment by Dumbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:35 am
To an idiot I imagine literacy must appear stupid.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:36 amComment by scooter — September 4, 2007
Google the ’sex slave trade’ and you will see many cute Asians being abused.
Comment by Ichthus
What does this have to do with the fact that ASIANS are successful and BLACKS are not in THIS COUNTRY?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:36 amIn WWII we did not round up Americans of German and Italian descent and put them in concentration camps. But we did the Japanese.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:37 amBARTLEBEE, no name, no fame, no dick, no cunt, yeah thats your
September 4th, 2007 at 12:38 amWhat does this have to do with the fact that ASIANS are successful and BLACKS are not in THIS COUNTRY?
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:36 am
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Who’s gonna break it to Michael Jordan?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:38 amPlease refer to yourself as a Classical Liberal ….maybe some true classical liberalism will rub off on you….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:28 am
You have shown me nothing factual, only your misguided and perverse opinions. You know nothing of history or politics, that’s supremely clear. Your reasons given for lefties being attracted to liberalism are the purest, textbook projection, especially the 3rd one, about power. This proves that you know nothing about liberals, or Americans, for that matter. If I thought you possessed any sense or ability to reason, i would point out with many examples the error of your ways. I have found, however, that with ignorance as deep and wide as yours, it is a complete waste of time, as you are ineducable. I must say, however, that your screed doesn’t disappoint; you hit all the talking points.
Nice try.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:39 amwimp wimp wimp, keith
September 4th, 2007 at 12:39 ammichael retard,,,,
still waiting to hear about how ASIANS are just as UNSUCCESSFUL and needy of the RACE based crap as BLACKS….
OR from anybody else who is a brainwashed LIBTARD.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:39 amBARTLEBEE, no name, no fame, no dick, no cunt, yeah thats your
Comment by Gumby — September 4, 2007 @ 12:38 am
Doing word association now are we?
:|
You realize I’m not a licensed psychotherpist, right?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:40 amWho’s gonna break it to Michael Jordan?
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I’d have said Oprah.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:40 amsicko… all you do is what? names names
September 4th, 2007 at 12:41 amWhat does this have to do with the fact that ASIANS are successful and BLACKS are not in THIS COUNTRY?
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:36 am
Many Blacks are extremely successful, and many Asians are not. You, however, are always and forever a failure, in every way, on every day.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:41 am3.) Attainment of power – - THAT is the bottom line.
…
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:28 am
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Yup, and you can see liars at TP and other anti-American sites writing anything and everything to acquire that power.
Luckily, most people don’t buy in to this Leftist garbage.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:41 amumbra,
Why do you call me a wimp? Because I said it is impossible for you to have mastered at Georgetown?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:42 amnothing, you drove it to this, noone was talking about this
September 4th, 2007 at 12:42 amI’d have said Oprah.
Comment by Keith — September 4, 2007 @ 12:40 am
Or any one of a million other people.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:42 amWho’s gonna break it to Michael Jordan?
Comment by BARTLEBEE
YEP,,, BLACKS as a race are successful because we have MICHAEL JORDAN….
PLEASE ,,, pass on this information to your LIBTARD brethren and the RACE based crap they support…
September 4th, 2007 at 12:42 amThey still seem to think the BLACKS need help.
OR from anybody else who is a brainwashed LIBTARD.
Would you spit out your point, whatever it is your trying to make, without the the ad-hominem BS?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:43 amPlease refer to yourself as a Classical Liberal ….maybe some true classical liberalism will rub off on you….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:28 am
Ironic coming from a religious wingnut that supports an administration of corrupt, overspending, military complex lapdog, religious freaks! That’s as unrepublican as you can get, yet here you are HAG, spreading those VALUES VOTERS sh!t that’s rubbed off from all of the NeoNazi, Racist, Homophobic religious zealot wackos that hijaked the GOP decades ago…
September 4th, 2007 at 12:43 amIcky – Why do you love the Founders when it suits you? I’ve heard more Leftards than I care to recall utilize rear view mirror thinking re: the Founders (w/ 21st Century values) for being wealthy slave owners, mysogynists, racists….Who can believe Our Creator endowed us with rights?? Such morons! And the right to bear arms and pracrtice a religion if we choose??
Next week we’ll be treated to leftards who love the Founders…..oh wait….Ronjazz and ickthus have treated us to that exercise —- alot earlier than usual…
When did I KNOW liberalism was a mental disease – - after 9/11. Listening to leftard Profs and college students blame America for those attacks was unconscienable. Listening to Leftards defend our enemies is sickening.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:43 amThey still seem to think the BLACKS need help.
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Actually, I don’t know a single Black that needs as much help as you do. You’re all f*cked up. You don’t deserve to live in America.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:44 am3.) Attainment of power – - THAT is the bottom line.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:28 am
That’s IRONIC coming from the wingnut GOP that could only focus on ATTAINING power but had NO PLAN to govern!
Your projection is as expected, lunatic anorexic girl!
September 4th, 2007 at 12:44 amMany Blacks are extremely successful, and many Asians are not. You, however, are always and forever a failure, in every way, on every day.
Comment by ronjazz
And i’m sure we can use your comments to do away with RACE BASED crap for BLACKS.
OHHHHH thats right LIBTARD policy is not to be questioned…
Does your statement above now make YOU TOO a racist?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:44 amWhat he said, proves a couple of things. The first and most obvious, is that he’s ignorant. The second, is that he is a racist, and since he singled out black Americans, that means he is most likely, a neo-nazi, and judging from his ridiculous command of the english language, a skinhead.
This guy is sub-human. On that you can rest assured.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:45 ammighty aphrodite, your right
September 4th, 2007 at 12:45 amname calling, stupid
September 4th, 2007 at 12:45 amSub, sub human.
A real bottomfeeder.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:46 amListening to Leftards defend our enemies is sickening.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:43 am
The Iraqis were not our enemies before we invaded and occupied.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:46 amBARTLEBEE, its all he knows
September 4th, 2007 at 12:47 amAnd all you know is nothing.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:47 amRon – Thanks for not addressing the differnces between Classical Liberalism and Contemporary Liberals. Your tortured “logic” and lunacy in referring to King George as a right-wing dictator make for very tedious reading.
I do hope you and your union comrades had a wonderful Labour Day….
September 4th, 2007 at 12:47 amOHHHHH thats right LIBTARD policy is not to be questioned…
The policy for the last decade plus has been in Republican hands, why hasnt the policy you constantly whine about changed?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:47 amOR from anybody else who is a brainwashed LIBTARD.
Would you spit out your point, whatever it is your trying to make, without the the ad-hominem BS?
Comment by Ichthus
OCTHUS,,, if the fact that ASIANS (a minority) are successful and BLACKS (a minority) are not…
Does not make the point. Then there is nothing non-adhominem BS can do to make the POINT clearer to YOU.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:48 amYou don’t need to know anything. You’ve got Bushy to pump it into that empty melon on your shoulders.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:48 am“your” is third person plural possessive.
“you’re” is the contraction for “you are”.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:48 amThe Iraqis were not our enemies before we invaded and occupied.
Comment by Keith
wow, keith so indepth, so well thouth out, so sutpid!
September 4th, 2007 at 12:48 amIcky – Why do you love the Founders when it suits you? I’ve heard more Leftards than I care to recall utilize rear view mirror thinking re: the Founders (w/ 21st Century values) for being wealthy slave owners, mysogynists, racists….Who can believe Our Creator endowed us with rights?? Such morons! And the right to bear arms and pracrtice a religion if we choose?? Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Ironic coming from the wingnut that hates the founding fathers anti-religious statements!
Next week we’ll be treated to leftards who love the Founders…..oh wait….Ronjazz and ickthus have treated us to that exercise —- alot earlier than usual… Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Sounds like more of your federalist myths you tell yourselves, crazy wingnut.
When did I KNOW liberalism was a mental disease – - after 9/11. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:43 am
The better question is when you figured out YOU had a mental disease – oh WAIT, you’re too busy fantasizing about how to mutilate arabs to realize what a fundie freak you are!
Listening to leftard Profs and college students blame America for those attacks was unconscienable. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Google BLOWBACK sometime, mossad girl.
Listening to Leftards defend our enemies is sickening.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:43 am
You referring to when Ronnie RayGUn called Osama a freedom fighter? Or when Rumsfeld shook hands with his good friend saddam? Or when Cheney sat on television and said that Saddam wasn’t a ‘threat’ and invasion would be destabalizing to Iraq and the reason? I always find it difficult to keep up with which wingnuts are your FRIENDS today, versus yesterday. You’re so fickle, and such flip-floopeerrs.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:49 amdont cry, dont hide, this is america, even if your stupid, we will protet you
September 4th, 2007 at 12:50 amLabour Day….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:47 am
In the US MA, its spelled “Labor Day”.
Once again MA confirms my suspicions, that she is not only not an attorney here in the US, but she is most likely not even a US citizen.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:50 amWhen did I KNOW liberalism was a mental disease – - after 9/11. Listening to leftard Profs and college students blame America for those attacks was unconscienable. Listening to Leftards defend our enemies is sickening.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:43 am
Well, it’s too bad that the responsibility for those attacks has to be shared by your side. They would never have been successful under a Dem president. and America must bear some responsibility for fomenting such hatred that 19 people would give up their own lives to make a horrible statement. You conveniently forget how well it worked: Bush immediately surrendered and capitulated to Bin Laden, icnluding ferrying his family out of the country when nobody else was allowed to fly, followed by pulling the troops out of Saudi Arabia. So yes, liberals understand that America shares in that catastrophe, and we fully regret that it happened, and that many innocent people died. But we also remember that George Bush went on vacation in spite of clear warning, and that he gave up the chase for Bin Laden, and that he left the people of NYC in the lurch, promising finding and help that he never delivered, and even allowing his EPA chief to lie about conditions so tht even more people would die as a result of that massive failure on his part. What part of that don’t you understand?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:50 amOn Sunday, the New York Times detailed Bush biographer Robert Draper’s stunning portrait of the President asleep at the switch as the disastrous May 2003 decision to dissolve the Iraqi army moved forward. Now, Tuesday’s New York Times suggests that Coalition Provisional Authority viceroy L. Paul Bremer indeed told Bush that he planned to disband Saddam’s military and that the President casually – and unquestioningly – went along for the ride.
For the details, see:
September 4th, 2007 at 12:50 am“Bremer Letters Show Bush OK’d Disbanding Iraqi Army.”
I do hope you and your union comrades had a wonderful Labour Day….
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Ya know MA, the deifnition you use for liberal i dont know.
Please elaborate on your Limbaugh-esque description.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:51 amRon – Thanks for not addressing the differnces between Classical Liberalism and Contemporary Liberals. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Ah, another strawman from the HAG with the SAGGIEST *SS.
Your tortured “logic†and lunacy in referring to King George as a right-wing dictator make for very tedious reading. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Ah, but it pales to all of your islamic ‘dictator’ loving, doesn’t it wingnut?
I do hope you and your union comrades had a wonderful Labour Day….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Spoken like a USEFUL IDIOT nazi girl. Whatever Adolphia.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:51 amthis is america, even if your stupid, we will protet you
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:50 am
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You capitalize America there Pat Henry, and we don’t need you to “protet” us.
We’ll ‘protet’ ourselves.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:51 amBARTLEBEE can only run spell check, dont worry, she’s a fool
September 4th, 2007 at 12:52 amWhat he said, proves a couple of things. The first and most obvious, is that he’s ignorant. The second, is that he is a racist, and since he singled out black Americans, that means he is most likely, a neo-nazi, and judging from his ridiculous command of the english language, a skinhead.
This guy is sub-human. On that you can rest assured.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
WRONG AGAIN,,,
Blacks are the example because YOUR friends the LIBTARDS make RACE BASED crap for them. (you obviously know this)
Does the fact that RACE BASED crap is for BLACKS and not ASIANS make you a RACIST for supporting it?
ARE you now subhuman?
Talk to the admissions officers in CALIFORNIA about how they turn qualified ASIANS away,,, because they already have to many…. (they already filled up the quota)
September 4th, 2007 at 12:53 amI guess the NAACP retards who determine how much of each RACE should be in school determine the numbers.
ronjazz, poor little f*cking stupid aphrodite keeps thinking we’re blaming AMERICA, when all we blame are the f*cking losers in the administration that were too incompetent to do their jobs while producing so much worldwide blowback that we HAVE to be diligent!
She’s such a poor little f*cking fool, she doesn’t believe we bear ANY blowback responsibility for our worldwide military activities. Blowback happens, as do blowjobs like the one that Mighty Hag gives in mens rooms for $20.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:53 amBARTLEBEE right, im a cunt, i give up
September 4th, 2007 at 12:54 amListening to Leftards defend our enemies is sickening.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Yet you want to free them and rebuild their country with our troops and your tax dollars?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:54 amIs m.a. Canadian? British Tory? Or an Aussie?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:54 amBARTLEBEE can only run spell check,
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Bartlebee doesn’t need a spell check to spell protect.
Or any of the other 3rd grade words you repeatedly spell incorrectly.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:55 amBut as the AP points out, “In truth, the progress in Anbar was initiated by the Iraqis themselves, a point Gates himself made, saying the Sunni tribes decided to fight and retake control from al-Qaida many months before Bush decided to send an extra 4,000 Marines to Anbar as part of his troop buildup.â€
Somebody is either as dumb as a Dubya or just being a total Cheney.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — September 3, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
however, he (Gates)added, “that it was the presence of the additional U.S. forces – the Marines that came in – that helped cement the gains they felt they had made but were at risk.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6894080,00.html
TP must have inadvertently left this out. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 12:55 amBARTLEBEE right, im a cunt, i give up
Comment by Cuntra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:54 am
Now you’re learning.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:56 amBlacks are the example because YOUR friends the LIBTARDS make RACE BASED crap for them. (you obviously know this)
Republicans wanted amnesty for the illegal aliens.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:56 amoh, only thing she knows, sorry. but u might want to check that sentace
September 4th, 2007 at 12:57 amhey RETARD MICHAEL,,,
still waiting for your answer as to why ASIANS are successful and BLACKS are comparitively not.
stick with ronjazz,,, he runs away better than most.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:57 amKing George as a right-wing dictator make for very tedious reading.
I do hope you and your union comrades had a wonderful Labour Day….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Your inability to handle two concepts at a time is the mark of a true wingnut. And, my comrades and I did enjoy a very beautiful Labor Day weekend, made all the more beautiful by the fact that you and your kind will be out of power and relegated to the political wilderness in just another little while. Your illness is terminal, I see, since you are still on the commie kick. Don’t forget, you lost the Viet Nam thingy, and all those commies took over the world ,and turned America into…a trading partner. But you can still find the bogeyman under your bed, and piss your panties while George Bush sits on his ass, trying to read a children’s book instead of leading the country.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:57 amhowever, he (Gates)added, “that it was the presence of the additional U.S. forces – the Marines that came in – that helped cement the gains they felt they had made but were at risk.â€
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ worldlatest/ story/ 0,,-6894080,00.html
TP must have inadvertently left this out. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 12:55 am
And by GAINS, you referring to the GAINS in DEATHS?
You wingnuts would spin the black death as a benefit for mankind. You’re a f*ck!
September 4th, 2007 at 12:57 amYeah, i;d like that answer too.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:58 amBlacks are the example because YOUR friends the LIBTARDS make RACE BASED crap for them. (you obviously know this)
Republicans wanted amnesty for the illegal aliens.
Comment by Ichthus
HMMMM…. AND this has what to do with RACE crap for BLACKS…?
September 4th, 2007 at 12:59 amListening to leftard Profs and college students blame America for those attacks was unconscienable.
Where is the beef? [proof]
September 4th, 2007 at 12:59 amYeah, i;d like that answer too.
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 12:58 am
You mean an answer to your own statement?
You racist goosestepping puss.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:00 ammichaelIsRetarded
September 4th, 2007 at 1:00 amyes you are, go away
Umbra – Thanks!! (*blush*)
The sad aspect of liberalism – it is designed to make the leftard feel superior because supposedly they CARE more. They are generous with other people’s money because they’re cheap – except on themselves….then the most committed elitists emerge.
They hate morality because that puts a limit on personal aberrational behaviour. They celebrate hypocrites like Larry Craig, because to lower the bar makes them look less hedonistic.
The saddest part of leftardism is the false caring bought by poor and inner city people. If liberalism were soooo great – I would expect the Dem control of all major US cities to result in utopia. They need to keep people poor “victims” writhing with discontent. They do not encourage education – they make excuses for drop outs. The do not encourage minority marriage – they want to “nanny” the family.
I am a recovering leftard – we were easy to spot as our arms are much longer due to excessively patting ourselves on the back for “caring” more. Now, I favour a helping hand – not providing a social hammock.
Keep fighting the good fight….
September 4th, 2007 at 1:00 amUndercutting Bush’s claims of success in Anbar.
Not at all true, TP, Gates said the exact opposite. As the plan has always been to have the Iraqis step up for themselves with the help of U.S. forces, Gates says (from the very same article that you quote):
Nice try, TP.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:01 amyeah, a non rasiciast question,
September 4th, 2007 at 1:01 amYeah, i;d like that answer too.
Comment by umbra
They can’t answer the question and still walk away from the computer with thier BALLS intact.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:02 amDon’t expect one,,,,
HMMMM…. AND this has what to do with RACE crap for BLACKS…?
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:59 am
Why don’t you explain what all the RACE CRAP is that Blacks are getting? Set it out in detail, as you seem to be quite obsessed with it, so you should have a nice list to show us. Then maybe we’ll see the error of our ways.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:02 amhey RETARD MICHAEL,,,
still waiting for your answer as to why ASIANS are successful and BLACKS are comparitively not.
stick with ronjazz,,, he runs away better than most.
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 12:57 am
Because of poor schools, institutional prejudice, and entire culture that portrays and beats down young blacks that they can’t and shouldn’t go to school – much like yourself. Then we have the fact that most asians that have recently immigrated came from families where parents were often educated in their own country – education often begats education.
A similar example is that the most educated and wealthiest ethnic group in England are Nigerians – because the wealthiest and most educated people from that country go to England.
I know you want a ’simple’ answer, because you’re a ’simple-minded-racist-bigot’, but I suggest you go read some sociology research on the topic – f*cking prick.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:02 amHMMMM…. AND this has what to do with RACE crap for BLACKS…?
Hispanics are a race, right? So whats the difference? What about those illegal asians that come in thru Canada, they would get amnesty too right?
And why hasn’t the GOP, changed the race based stuff your talking about??
September 4th, 2007 at 1:03 amI am a recovering leftard – we were easy to spot as our arms are much longer due to excessively patting ourselves on the back for “caring†more. Now, I favour a helping hand – not providing a social hammock.
Keep fighting the good fight….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:00 am
See folks. Observe. MA once again spells favor, “favour”, which is the British spelling.
I’m guessing Canada. BC.
Oh and MA? I’m a recovering Republican. And you can tell them not by the length of their arms these days, but from the red armbands on their brown shirts.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:03 amA hint for the Libs:
Preferential Treatment (affirmative action) = racism
September 4th, 2007 at 1:04 amscooter,
It was not liberals who kept Blacks in slavery for decades, and afterwards kept them in the worst jobs, education, hospitals, and neighborhhoods. They were treated as inferior in every way imaginable, including different restrooms, waterfountains, and seats on buses. In the 1960’s they were shot if they dared to register to vote or eat at the same lunchcounter. Today they have their votes taken away in many innovative ways. Their problem today is not the result of liberal policies. It is the result of right-wing policies.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:04 amA hint for the inbreds.
This thread = Iraq and the Surge
The racism threads are a elsewhere.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:06 amYou mean an answer to your own statement?
You racist goosestepping puss.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Just what about successful ASIANS and comparitively unsuccessful BLACKS is untrue here?
And why do you support RACE BASED CRAP for BLACKS and not ASIANS if your stupid enough to believe they are the same?
Save those other 2 retards BARTLEBEE please
September 4th, 2007 at 1:06 amThe Republicans gained control of the house and senate in 1995 scooter, and they didnt change what you talk about, in 11 years!!
WHY????
September 4th, 2007 at 1:06 amEveryone,
September 4th, 2007 at 1:06 amThis has nothing to do about race! Evem thought you u wo
likeit to. its not. sorry
Its about the progress thats not being made in Iraq, and the lies you guys keep telling, like the trained seals that you are, to convince people there is.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:07 amJust what about successful ASIANS and comparitively unsuccessful BLACKS is untrue here?
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 1:06 am
Just the entire sentence you inbred half baked skinhead freak.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:08 amAnd this thread is not about racism, so go find a thread that is.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:08 amBARTLEBEE go to sleep, your a fool, no relevence. gnight stupid
September 4th, 2007 at 1:08 amAnd why do you support RACE BASED CRAP for BLACKS and not ASIANS if your stupid enough to believe they are the same?
You never asked me what I did and did not support scooter, you ASSUMED you knew.
You have been sitting here repeating somebody elses talking points, while ignoring the fact that the GOP did nothing about it for 11 years!
You only have your own party to blame.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:08 amComment by BARTLEBEE — September 4, 2007 @ 1:07 am
TP has been exposed as liars several times already. In case you missed it, here it is again:
—————————-
Undercutting Bush’s claims of success in Anbar.
Not at all true, TP, Gates said the exact opposite. As the plan has always been to have the Iraqis step up for themselves with the help of U.S. forces, Gates says (from the very same article that you quote):
Nice try, TP.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:10 amBARTLEBEE dont cry
September 4th, 2007 at 1:10 amIts going so well in Iraq, that the President visiting our new democratic ally, had to fly in in a web of secrecy, under the heaviest possible security known to man.
Its going so well, that he flew all the way to a foreign land, and couldn’t leave the airport.
To an inbred brainwashed republican, thats progress.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:10 amUmbra – Thanks!! (*blush*)
The sad aspect of liberalism – it is designed to make the leftard feel superior because supposedly they CARE more. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Says the f*cking old hateful witch that uses ‘religion’ and her ‘religious-charity’ to make her feel ’superior’ because she supposedly CARES MORE! Your projection is pathetic – you f*cking little b***h!
They are generous with other people’s money because they’re cheap – except on themselves….then the most committed elitists emerge. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:00 am
That would be ironic if f*cking cretins like you weren’t involved so often in wallstreet scams, and halliburton graft at the benefit of OTHERS PEOPLE’S MONEY. And when you’re sick of being THE MOST COMMITTED ELITIST, you might consider COMMITTING yourself to the appropriate medical establishment.
They hate morality because that puts a limit on personal aberrational behaviour. They celebrate hypocrites like Larry Craig, because to lower the bar makes them look less hedonistic.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Actually we celebrate HONESTY, we PITY hypocrites like you. And WHY? Because only you don’t realize that we SEE what a HYPOCRITE and FOOL LOSER you are.
The saddest part of leftardism is the false caring bought by poor and inner city people. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Whereas the saddest part of CONTURDISM like you push is the FALSE CARING about MORALITY while you spread you sh*t hate everywhere couched in some TWISTED sense of morality.
If liberalism were soooo great – I would expect the Dem control of all major US cities to result in utopia. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Most major cities have experience with both Dem and Repuke control, and most are fully under Dem control – and WHY? Because you f*ckers can’t GOVERN a sewage treatment plant! While cities are utopia, they are far better than the meth addled trailer park YOU COME FROM!
They need to keep people poor “victims†writhing with discontent. They do not encourage education – they make excuses for drop outs. The do not encourage minority marriage – they want to “nanny†the family. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Ah, IRONIC, coming from the GOP preying on the POOR “VICTIM-CHRISTIANS” that are always WRITHING DISCONTENT!!! LIke YOU!!!
I am a recovering leftard – we were easy to spot as our arms are much longer due to excessively patting ourselves on the back for “caring†more. Now, I favour a helping hand – not providing a social hammock.
Keep fighting the good fight….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:00 am
Oh poor st*pid c*nt – you DEBUNKED that LIE about you being a recovering liberal about the same time you starting telling sick jokes about your own DEAD CHILD that doesn’t exist!!
You’re a sick c*nt!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:10 amBecause of poor schools, institutional prejudice, and entire culture that portrays and beats down young blacks that they can’t and shouldn’t go to school – much like yourself. Then we have the fact that most asians that have recently immigrated came from families where parents were often educated in their own country – education often begats education.
A similar example is that the most educated and wealthiest ethnic group in England are Nigerians – because the wealthiest and most educated people from that country go to England.
I know you want a ’simple’ answer, because you’re a ’simple-minded-racist-bigot’, but I suggest you go read some sociology research on the topic – f*cking prick.
Comment by michaelIsRetarded
OHHH,,, THATS it…..HAHAHAHA
Anybody that wants to know,,,, its a mixture of culture, discrimination, and countries where they came from…
HAHAHAHA
September 4th, 2007 at 1:11 amBARTLEBEE you have my address, would love to see you, kiss kiss
September 4th, 2007 at 1:11 am“hey hate morality because that puts a limit on personal aberrational behaviour. They celebrate hypocrites like Larry Craig, because to lower the bar makes them look less hedonistic.”
Liberals threw Larry under the GOP bus? liberals are more hedonistic than conservatives? You are seriously brain-damaged, and you haven’t a scintilla of proof in any of your statements. They are the result of lying to yourself, and blaming others for your failures in life. Hypocrisy is the wingnuts defining characteristic, along with making shit up that you can’t prove or back up. liberals arent interested in feeling superior, they are superior, and don’t have to justify their feelings. You know that, and can’t deal with it. They are superior by reason of the fact that they are constantly trying to improve themselves and the conditions of their neighbors in the human family. Repigs are only into improving their bank accounts and material possessions, because they are inherently worthless as people, and must gain their status by buying it. it may be possible to feel sorry for people who are so empty and live such meaningless, miserable lives, but they take out their rage on the poor and innocent, so they get no pity from me. You, like so many of the wingnuts that waste time here, are in need of seriousm deep therapy to face up to your failures in life and your need to blame everybody else. Take some personal responsibility, for a change.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:11 amIcky – Columbia University, Wellesley, Brown, NYU, Yale, etc. etc. etc. all had protest after 9/11…..Campus Progress (the little sibling of Think Progress) is an excellent source I suggest you utilize….
September 4th, 2007 at 1:12 amplease see me
September 4th, 2007 at 1:12 amEveryone, This has nothing to do about race! Evem thought you u wo
likeit to. its not. sorry Comment by umbra
I never said it was, it is kinda funny watching scooter yammer on about whatever hes yammering about …
September 4th, 2007 at 1:12 amComment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 1:10 am
Dude, lay off the meth.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:12 amYou never asked me what I did and did not support scooter, you ASSUMED you knew.
You have been sitting here repeating somebody elses talking points, while ignoring the fact that the GOP did nothing about it for 11 years!
You only have your own party to blame.
Comment by Ichthus
Good to hear some of you LIBTARDS are coming around,,, now go and tell your friends…..
September 4th, 2007 at 1:12 amA hint for the Libs:
Preferential Treatment (affirmative action) = racism
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 1:04 am
Then by your definition, the preferential treatment that Shrub got while avoiding Vietnam is racism! I just love what a simpleton little fool you are!!! Poor Mr. Pee wet his pant again!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:12 amOne million Iraqis dead. Four million made refugees. Second-worst failed state in the world. One in eight Iraqi children die before age of five. It will cost US taxpayers over $2 Trillion. 3,740 American troops killed. 30,000 wounded. It has made us less safe by opening up Iraq to the terrorists who were previously kept out by Saddam (according to 16 intelligence agencies of the US. Every reason for the invasion was a lie.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:12 amBARTLEBEE you have my address, would love to see you, kiss kiss
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:11 am
No I don’t.
Like the little girl you are, you wimped out, and posted an address that doesn’t exist.
But feel free to post an actual address. You know, one thats actually recorded on maps and stuff, and we’ll see what we can do for you.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:13 amBARTLEBEE u want my work number, ill give it to u
September 4th, 2007 at 1:13 amIcky – Columbia University, Wellesley, Brown, NYU, Yale, etc. etc. etc. all had protest after 9/11…..Campus Progress (the little sibling of Think Progress) is an excellent source I suggest you utilize….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:12 am
Why don’t you go with your fellow YOUNG REPUBLICANS and ENLIST you FRAUD!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:13 amBARTLEBEE u want my work number, ill give it to u
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:13 am
I’m still waiting for a legitimate address.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:14 amDude, lay off the meth.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 1:12 am
I can see you’re at a family reunion again, or was that just you rambling to yourself in the mirror again – redneck murderer?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:14 amEveryone, This has nothing to do about race! Evem thought you u wo
likeit to. its not. sorry Comment by umbra
I never said it was, it is kinda funny watching scooter yammer on about whatever hes yammering about …
Comment by Ichthus
sure dude,,,,, neither do RACE based programs,,,,
AFFIRMITIVE ACTION has NOTHING to do with RACE..
that HAS to put you up there with RETARD michael.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:14 amComment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 1:12 am
Use “the googles,” you poor lefty. Search for “Preferential Treatment” “Affirmative action.”
You suffer from severe mental libtardation, seek help at your local Church.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:15 amsure dude,,,,, neither do RACE based programs,,,,
AFFIRMITIVE ACTION has NOTHING to do with RACE.. Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 1:14 am
Yeah, SURE, and in your book your RACISM has nothing to do with RACE!!!! Crazy lunatic!
that HAS to put you up there with RETARD michael.
Comment by scooter — September 4, 2007 @ 1:14 am
Michael IS a retard, I agree he is. That’s why I make fun of him, but nice that you agree that your fellow republican poster IS a RETARD. I’ll be sure to convey your evaluation of him.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:16 amTake some personal responsibility, for a change.
Comment by ronjazz — September 4, 2007 @ 1:11 am
You mean like improving our bank accounts so we can take care of our families and pay taxes to take care of the families of those who can’t or won’t. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:16 amIcky – Columbia University, Wellesley, Brown, NYU, Yale, etc. etc. etc. all had protest after 9/11…..Campus Progress (the little sibling of Think Progress) is an excellent source I suggest you utilize….
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Yale from where Bush came, no way!! Them Ivey League Bush Liberals!!! Really MA, so what? They probably said the same stuff after the first 9/11 attack during Clintons term. And as I recall the Republicans tried to blame Clinton for what happened during Bush’s term, they also, in effect, blamed Americans.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:16 amBARTLEBEE , wimp, you know the addresss exists, ill take you to lunch before, you want the phone number?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:16 amYou suffer from severe mental libtardation, seek help at your local Church.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 1:15 am
See, thats the problem with you inbreds.
Always seeking out a priest when you should be seeking out a psychiatrist.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:16 am“that it was the presence of the additional U.S. forces – the Marines that came in – that helped cement the gains they felt they had made but were at risk.â€
Nice try, TP.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 1:10 am
Those are the bought-and-paid-for lies of Gates, not the Iraqis.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:16 amYou LIBTARDS should stick to stuff your really good at like BUSH is EVIL,,, BUSH lied,,, BUSH made BLACK people unsuccessful but not ASIANS…
HAHAHAHA
September 4th, 2007 at 1:17 amBARTLEBEE , wimp, you know the addresss exists
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:16 am
According to Mapquest, google and Yahoo maps, it does not.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:17 amUse “the googles,†you poor lefty. Search for “Preferential Treatment†“Affirmative action.†Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 1:15 am
You mean like Harvard and Yale’s ‘Preferrential’ treatment to admit the wholy unqualified Bush horde?
You suffer from severe mental libtardation, seek help at your local Church. Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 1:15 am
Why, you plan on hanging out in the bathroom til I arrive? Sorry, but I wouldn’t advice you trying to feed your closet any more, especially since it’s the reason you murdered your ex-girlfriend.
That’s right folks, Mr. Pee MURDERED his ex-girlfriend. Just ask him, she’s dead… He admitted it on the blog.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:18 amill take you to lunch before, you want the phone number?
Comment by Funbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:16 am
I told you I don’t swing that way.
You should try Ken Melhman. I hear he’s looking.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:19 amthat HAS to put you up there with RETARD michael.
Comment by scooter
You didn’t answer the question, if its such a bad idea why did not the GOP change it? They surely could have.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:19 amBARTLEBEE funny, worked here. course if i was a stupid wimp, it wouldnt
September 4th, 2007 at 1:19 amgotta run,,,,
YOU libtards have made this evening MOST enjoyable.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:19 amTOODALOOO
BARTLEBEE funny, worked here. course if i was a stupid wimp, it wouldnt
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Great. Then put up a link mouth.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:20 amSee, thats the problem with you inbreds.
Always seeking out a priest when you should be seeking out a psychiatrist.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 4, 2007 @ 1:16 am
That’s because the psychiatrist tries to treat the self-loathing that causes the mentally ill homophobia Mr. Pee has… He can’t cope with his ‘curse’, like craig, or Aphrodite. That’s why she believes his ‘behavior’ is just ’sinful’ as opposed to ‘biological’. She and Coulter share the ‘confused’ sexuality issue with Mr. Pee. Poor things. There are more closets in a GOP meeting than at a home decor show!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:20 amAnd you are a stupid wimp.
Maybe thats my problem.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:20 amUse “the googles,†you poor lefty. Search for “Preferential Treatment†“Affirmative action.â€
You suffer from severe mental libtardation, seek help at your local Church.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 1:15 am
Only the rightwing moron sites will conflate those two phrases, and everybody knows rightwingers are incapable of telling or even recognizing the truth. That’s why they’re convenient, useful idiots for the likes of George Bush, a failed oilman who became a failed president. They’re made for each other.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:21 amYou LIBTARDS should stick to stuff your really good at like BUSH is EVIL,,, BUSH lied,,, BUSH made BLACK people unsuccessful but not ASIANS…HAHAHAHA Comment by scooter
Okay, Bush did nothing about affirnative action. Doesn’t that just piss you off?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:21 amWhy didn’t Bush go to Baghdad??
Aren’t the casualties TWICE that of last year???
Why didn’t Bush testify UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission?
Why did the Bush administration expose our WMD spy from the CIA, ruin her career, destroy the front company, and
sabotage NATIONAL SECURITY??
Why did they commit TREASON in a time of “WAR”?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:22 amYou LIBTARDS should stick to stuff your really good at like BUSH is EVIL,,, BUSH lied,,,
Comment by Idiotus — September 4, 2007 @ 1:21 am
He doesn’t need our help with any of that.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:22 amAlways seeking out a priest when you should be seeking out a psychiatrist.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 4, 2007 @ 1:16 am
A priest is more apt to give them what they really want!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:22 amThose are the bought-and-paid-for lies of Gates, not the Iraqis.
Comment by ronjazz — September 4, 2007 @ 1:16 am
Heh, heh. So the part of Gates statement that libs like is credible, but the part that you don’t is “bought and paid for lies.” You’re falling all over yourselves trying to spin everything so that nothing is good. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:22 amYou suffer from severe mental libtardation, seek help at your local Church.
Comment by AVGVSTVS
Yeh free handouts with a liberal faith based initiative thatll learn em!!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:23 amA priest is more apt to give them what they really want!
Comment by ronjazz — September 4, 2007 @ 1:22 am
Yea.
Some dick.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:23 amHeh, heh. So the part of Gates statement that libs like is credible, but the part that you don’t is “bought and paid for lies.†You’re falling all over yourselves trying to spin everything so that nothing is good. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 1:22 am
Hey, you f*ckers often tell half truths – and that SHOCKS you that we can tell the difference? Considering what a retarded inbred f*cker you are, no surprise.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:23 amJust ask him, she’s dead… He admitted it on the blog.
Comment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 1:18 am
Is that all you’ve got?
No wonder your votes don’t count!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:24 amRon – Sadly, you’re living proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.
“Liberals threw Larry under the GOP bus? liberals are more hedonistic than conservatives? You are seriously brain-damaged, and you haven’t a scintilla of proof in any of your statements.”
Leftards weren’t upset by Craigs immorality – they were upset that he was a hypocrite. Ron, conservatives give perverts the boot – you folks re-elect them……
“...and you haven’t a scintilla of proof in any of your statements.”
Barney Frank, Gerry Studds, William Jefferson – allll re-elected.
Thank you for telling us how superior leftards are….I doubt you would hear such kudos unless you keep deluding yourself.
****NOTE to Conservatives***** Arguing with MIR (aka: btruthful, Ryan Neat etc. can be hazardous to his health. To avoid exascerbating a rolling-on-the-floor foaming mouth episode, compassionate conservatives politely ignore this leftard – and we never point…..
September 4th, 2007 at 1:24 amBartlebee never served in the military. He is a coward. ,
Comment by BARTLEBEEISRETARDED — September 4, 2007 @ 1:21 am
Bartlebee is smart enough to know better than to join the military under Republicans, it’s sure death for oil profits. wingnuts, on the other hand, are chickenhawk cowards. There’s a big difference.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:25 amHey, you f*ckers often tell half truths – and that SHOCKS you that we can tell the difference? Considering what a retarded inbred f*cker you are, no surprise.
Comment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 1:23 am
Hit a nerve, eh retard? Calm down, bud. You’ll do better next time, I’m sure. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:25 amHe doesn’t need our help with any of that.
Comment by BARTLEBEE
Yeh even MA dissed Georges alma mater with those nutty professors at Yale. Speaking of nutty professors I wonder how that Leo- Strauss is working out for them?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:26 amWpw MA. How long did you work on that embarrassment?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:26 amBush is a COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA who will BURN for ETERNITY, as will the supporters of this MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:26 amHey, dont worry BARTLEBEE, i will find you. im 60 and in good health balding, and not stupid.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:27 amHeh, heh. So the part of Gates statement that libs like is credible, but the part that you don’t is “bought and paid for lies.†You’re falling all over yourselves trying to spin everything so that nothing is good. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 1:22 am
Hey, we’re not the ones responsible for the 20+ lies it took to get to this point. Gates is another liar, or Bush wouldn’t have hired him. Even you can see that. Bush fires truthtellers as fast as he can.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:27 amverizon will help, unkowning, i like it
September 4th, 2007 at 1:27 amComment by ronjazz — September 4, 2007 @ 1:27 am
Oddly enough, though, he only lies when he disagrees with you. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:29 amRon – Sadly, you’re living proof that liberalism is a mental disorder. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Sadly, you’re living proof that lunatic wingnuts think EVERYONE ELSE is crazy.
Leftards weren’t upset by Craigs immorality – they were upset that he was a hypocrite. Ron, conservatives give perverts the boot – you folks re-elect them…… Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Poor st*pid little b***h, can’t see that HYPOCRISY is IMMORAL, but that someone’s SEXUALITY is just their NATURE. She thinks that being GAY is being a pervert – more SELF LOATHING from the resident lesbian afraid to free her INNER COULTER!
Thank you for telling us how superior leftards are….I doubt you would hear such kudos unless you keep deluding yourself. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Says the DELUDED CONTARD that is busy DELUDING herself.
****NOTE to Conservatives***** Arguing with MIR (aka: btruthful, Ryan Neat etc. can be hazardous to his health. To avoid exascerbating a rolling-on-the-floor foaming mouth episode, compassionate conservatives politely ignore this leftard – and we never point….. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:24 am
You shouldn’t use BIG WORDS you can’t spell, maybe that’s why your MYSPACE page is so embarrassing! Well, what can you expect from a 24 year old girl that idolizes coulter and THINKS she’s an attorney! As for ‘compassionate conservative’ – yeah like THAT exists! You’re more likely to find a UNICORN, at which point I hear that the most comfortable and natural method of riding one is on his horn! As for a miserable loathing hateful c*nt like you being POLITE!!! BHAHAHAHA, now THAT’s A JOKE!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:29 amBush fires truthtellers as fast as he can.
Comment by ronjazz
Yup. Like the generals who told him to leave Iraq.
He FIRED them because he can’t stand the TRUTH that he is a FAILURE as a “commander-in-chief”, an AWOL coward little TRAITOR to the USA.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:30 amHit a nerve, eh retard? Calm down, bud. You’ll do better next time, I’m sure. ;) Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 1:25 am
Says the upset little f*cker that’s so NOT CALM he has to come to a liberal blog and WHINE that we didn’t quote EVERYTHING he agrees with! Just come down, Not-Bud. You’ll not do better next time, I’m sure. ;) But I’ll continue to make fun of your sad, pathetic little existence, even if you’re too braindead to distinguish ‘humor’ from ‘anger’. Poor sad little f*cker, you don’t even know the JOKE is on YOU!! HEHEHE
September 4th, 2007 at 1:31 ami love it when they go after misspelled words, shows what they know.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:31 amBARTLEBEE hey, you still there
September 4th, 2007 at 1:31 am*NOTE to Conservatives***** Arguing with MIR (aka: btruthful, Ryan Neat etc. can be hazardous to his health. To avoid exascerbating a rolling-on-the-floor foaming mouth episode, compassionate conservatives politely ignore this leftard – and we never point…..
Comment by mighty aphrodite
O’ come on MA, you really think words are gonna hurt us thick skinned folks? Really, the GOP needs to find a new methodology since Rove is gone. As for compassionate conservatism, that was a Rovian Ruse, so was moral majority and value voters. Most of that stuff Rove lifted from a book by Myron Magnet.
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September 4th, 2007 at 1:31 amHey, dont worry BARTLEBEE, i will find you. im 60 and in good health balding, and not stupid.
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:27 am
Cool. I’ve never kicked a 60 year old bald mans head in before.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:32 amBARTLEBEE ….loooking one too manyh “o”s
September 4th, 2007 at 1:32 amComment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 1:31 am
Retard, if ya get any more calm, bud, you’re gonna stroke out. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:33 amRon, conservatives give perverts the boot -MA
Come now MA, you know darn good and well that Hastert helped hide Foleys habits for years.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:33 amTROLL TRAINER
September 4th, 2007 at 1:33 ami like the thought, come on
i love it when they go after misspelled words, shows what they know.
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:31 am
Yea.
Like how to spell.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:34 ami like the thought, come on
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:33 am
I thought you were going to “find me”.
What happened Magellan? Compass broken?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:34 amTROLL TRAINER
September 4th, 2007 at 1:34 ami like the thought, come on
Thank you for telling us how superior leftards are….I doubt you would hear such kudos unless you keep deluding yourself.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Thanks for proving my point. Your party is full of perverts, and you hang onto them until they are finally expose, then toss them out. We, on the other hand, don’t care what somebody’s private behavior is, as long as they are consenting adults, and don’t scare the horses. Humans are humans, not gods, and we revel in humanity, while you slaughter innocent families because Saddam tried to whack Bush’s father, supposedly. Even after Saddam is long gone, you continue to slaughter families, wedding parties and cabdrivers, because you don’t value life. You are the perverts, we are just free men and women who want everyone to be free. You don’t want that, because you are afraid that if everybody is free, you won’t have the ability to slaughter thousands of humans wholesale so that your defense contractors can own 7 vacation homes. You are the true perverts, the haters of life, the enemies of American ideals. We just like to leave people be, and not kill them if they’re not threatening us. So, yes, we are far superior, and further along the evolutionary scale. It sucks to be you, but you’ll have to live with it.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:35 amYou’re repeating yourself umbra.
Can we call someone for you?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:35 amCome now MA, you know darn good and well that Hastert helped hide Foleys habits for years.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007
Correct. Hastert was probably sharing the “spoils”…
And Coulter needs to be womped upside the head.
Teach him some respect…
September 4th, 2007 at 1:37 amTROLL TRAINER
oh well, a few more pings. then again, i really like the way you insult americans.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:37 amA minute ago you claimed you were going to “find me”.
Since the little man with the big mouth named umbra is so intent on finding me, why would I need to come to you?
And if you really wanted me to come to you, then why not post a link to the mapquest page that shows that bullshit address you posted?
I know why.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:37 amRetard, if ya get any more calm, bud, you’re gonna stroke out. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 1:33 am
And if you get any more stupid, not-bud, you’re gonna turn into a mushroom…
September 4th, 2007 at 1:37 amoh well, a few more pings. then again, i really like the way you insult americans.
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:37 am
Oh you’re pinging me are you? Gee. Then what city am I in?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:38 amCome on big mouth.
If you’re pinging me then you should know right where I am.
But you don’t. Cause you’re not.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:38 amRon, conservatives give perverts the boot -MA
Come now MA, you know darn good and well that Hastert helped hide Foleys habits for years.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 1:33 am
Yeah, then we have his protection of Delay, and the rest of the investigation into Abramoff’s ties to Congress that he tried to stonewall…
The GOP is the party of corruption, and poor little ‘useful-idiot’ is willing to buy their ‘good-intention’, no matter how little the REAL party relates to her fantasy. That’s called ‘delusion’ in mental health circuits – you know the place that ISN’T a wingnut zealot church preying for THE RAPTURE!!!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:39 am“O’ come on MA, you really think words are gonna hurt us thick skinned folks?” Ickthus
Icky – you “thick skinned” folks are the same people who have instituted “speech codes” on University campuses. Progs started the censorship of political correctness. Yep, you folks are soooo thick skinned, everything decent offends you. But you are very good at celebrating the perverted and profane.
Value voters aren’t saints – they simply aspire to live up to higher standards. We recognize the intrinsic evil of abortion and the necessity to contribute to people less fortunate than ourselves.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:39 amTROLL TRAINER
September 4th, 2007 at 1:39 amwow, i cant believe how stupid you are, i didnt know you were retarded
Even after Saddam is long gone, you continue to slaughter families, wedding parties and cabdrivers, because you don’t value life.
Comment by ronjazz — September 4, 2007 @ 1:35 am
Libs continue supporting the troops. You left baby killer off the list, though, bud. It’s more effective if you list that separately from just “slaughter families.” ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:40 amYou’re the one making threats that we both know you’re not man enough to back up, and I’m the one laughing at them.
That makes you the retard, retard.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:41 amAnd if you get any more stupid, not-bud, you’re gonna turn into a mushroom…
Comment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 1:37 am
Wow, a stinging retort, there, bud. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:42 amBut feel free to post your actual physical address, or a mapquest link to that bogus address that you posted before, to try to make yourself feel tough.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:42 amValue voters aren’t saints – they simply aspire to live up to higher standards. We recognize the intrinsic evil of abortion and the necessity to contribute to people less fortunate than ourselves.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:39 am
that’s why under Bush abortions are way up, especially among Republican women. And the necessity of contributing to the less fortunate is why Republicans like to name ketchup as a vegetable and cut after-school and school lunch programs. Very nice.
Hypocrite.
Liar.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:42 amumbra, this isn’t like a MSN chat room, you dont see peoples ip numbers. And even if you did see the ip number it would only take to the ISP not the persons home. And besides that many ISPS use a proxy server and one IP can be assigned to many machines with different MAC numbers.
So you might end up beating up an old lady somewhere umbra.
Just saying…
September 4th, 2007 at 1:42 amI’ll be waiting right here, little girl.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:42 amGood night, leftards……It’s been fun….but not very challenging….
September 4th, 2007 at 1:44 amBetter listen to your friend Ichthus, before you hurt yourself.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:44 amBut you are very good at celebrating the perverted and profane.
Yup, we celebrate Mark Foley and George Bush.
Oh, wait…
That’s YOU!!!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:44 amTROLL TRAINER i’v already posted my addresss
September 4th, 2007 at 1:44 amRonny – Here’s a thought before I log off – If you can’t feed them….don’t breed them….And if you’re afraid you won”t know who your babies’ daddy is, take precautions…..
Tooodles………
September 4th, 2007 at 1:46 amLibs continue supporting the troops. You left baby killer off the list, though, bud. It’s more effective if you list that separately from just “slaughter families.†;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 1:40 am
Supporting the troops means bringing them home. that’s it. Anything else, if you’re not enlisting to help them, is cheap lip service, which is all you’ve got. Cheap, chickenhawk bwaak bwaak bwaak lip service. Of course, you haven’t denied any of the specific instances, have you? Because you can’t. Our own troops have been FOUND GUILTY of slaughtering families and taking out wedding parties. So don’t give me your cheap “baby killer” routine, it just shows how morally bereft you are. shame on you.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:47 amTROLL TRAINER i’v already posted my addresss
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:44 am
Wrong.
The address you posted does not exist.
If you think it does, then prove it.
Post a link to mapquest or yahoo maps or google, showing that address on a map. It doesn’t exist. You made it up.
Cause you are a puss. Just like your friends in here.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:47 amTROLL TRAINER could i get a discription? would love to have it.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:47 amGood night, leftards……It’s been fun….but not very challenging….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007
Yup, George W. Bush IS a COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR to the USA!!
Nite, nite!!
Don’t let “Jeff Gannon” leave marks, only IMPRESSIONS!!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:47 amGood night, leftards……It’s been fun….but not very challenging….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:44 am
Ah, poor thing. Thought is never challenging for a close minded rube! You’re too DUMB to even know what challenging is, just go DUH, and we’ll all know what you mean, ok, baby girl?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:48 amGood night, leftards……It’s been fun….but not very challenging….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:44 am
Thats because you didn’t do anything.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:48 amoh well, then you need to change search engines, i get mail there 6 days a week
September 4th, 2007 at 1:48 amValue voters aren’t saints – they simply aspire to live up to higher standards. We recognize the intrinsic evil of abortion and the necessity to contribute to people less fortunate than ourselves.
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Well you see Ma, your operating on your idea of what you THINK people at this site value by what SOMEONE on TV or RADIO said about a WORD. Coulter claims liberals are Godless which is ceetainly not true. What she is doing is FRAMING you to think a certain way.
So when you see someone say they are liberal you picture that in your mind. Just like all the trolls here come with all these pre-conceived notions about what a person is.
Even more oddly they think they KNOW what the person sitting behind a screen, just like them, IS or IS NOT and judges them by their FRAMING.
I find it very peculiar that some very intelligent people, cannot see thru that obvious error.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:49 amTROLL TRAINER could i get a discription? would love to have it.
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:47 am
Look. I told you I don’t swing that way.
I’m sure if you look hard (pun not intended) you could find someone in the republican inbred party that wants to let you polish his knob. But I don’t swing that way. (not that theres anything wrong with that).
And if you’re just to butt ugly that not even a fat old man wants to tap your nasty butt, then you can always try that service Bush’s spiritual advisor, Ted Haggard, used. I heard he was quite satisfied.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:50 amOur own troops have been FOUND GUILTY of slaughtering families and taking out wedding parties.
Comment by ronjazz — September 4, 2007 @ 1:47 am
So a few bad apples do spoil the whole bunch, then, and all our troops are murderers. Is that the official lib line now, bud?
September 4th, 2007 at 1:50 amGood night, leftards……It’s been fun….but not very challenging….
Comment by mighty aphrodite
Thats because we dont fall for the FRAMING game and parrot pundit prattle. Besides MA you admitted you just like to argue, and when I take away your false projection, so goes your fun.
Toodles!!
September 4th, 2007 at 1:51 amRonny – Here’s a thought before I log off – If you can’t feed them….don’t breed them….And if you’re afraid you wonâ€t know who your babies’ daddy is, take precautions…..
Tooodles………
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:46 am
What an Ironic statement coming from the anti-abortionist!!!! Especially in light of Jake D. talking about how if we hadn’t aborted so many that COULDN’T BE FED, we wouldn’t have illegals – how deliciously biting at your argument! Almost as fun as him believing slavery should be legal, and that you women should STFU and stay at home silent! I just LOVE those religious GOP men!!!
So your solution is that no one should have sex or they should abort their babies if they aren’t well off? Wow, how ‘elitist’ of you!!!! So much for your claim that LIBERALS held a morally superior attitude! Then again your moral superiority is neither moral nor superior, so I can see how you wouldn’t want to count your kind of selfish elitism that you JUSTIFY through your hatred. You never change, you st*Pid little dingbat.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:51 amk, this is embarassing, TROLL TRAINER’ in the restroom trying to suck everyone off.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:51 amoh well, then you need to change search engines, i get mail there 6 days a week
Comment by umbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:48 am
So put up a link wimpboy.
Put up a link if one exists.
I know you can’t, because one doesn’t.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:51 amSo a few bad apples do spoil the whole bunch, then, and all our troops are murderers. Is that the official lib line now, bud?
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 1:50 am
Oh, you poor little f*cker. When there’s a barrel of you GOPers, the barrel is ALWAYS spoiled – much your bratty little whINNEEEEE on here…
September 4th, 2007 at 1:52 amthe necessity to contribute to people less fortunate than ourselves.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:39 am
How come the % of “less fortunates” always increases under conservative rule and decreases under liberal rule?
Not only in the US, but across the world. There are very few “less fortunates” in Holland, for instance.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:52 amPoor little umbra. Wants everyone to think what a big man he is, calling bartlebee out so he can beat him up. But in reality?
He’s too scared to provide bartles with his real address (or too smart).
Because he’s all mouth. Just like the rest of the brownshirts.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:53 amBARTLEBEE oh wow, if you cant get it up, give me yours, ill come there, wimp
September 4th, 2007 at 1:53 amSo a few bad apples do spoil the whole bunch, then, and all our troops are murderers. Is that the official lib line now, bud?
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007
Nope, but SOME have been SHOWN to be MURDERERS.
And Bush is a TRAITOR to the USA, a LIAR, and a MASS MURDERER.
ILLEGAL WAR OF AGGRESSION.
And Osama is STILL FREE SIX YEARS LATER.
And the Bin Ladens FUNDED Bush’s failed oil ventures, in which HE still profited by ILLEGAL INSIDER TRADING.
70 YEARS of Bush Crime Family TREASON…
September 4th, 2007 at 1:54 amAh, the Mighty Aphrodite MOM of multiple school age children that’s up at 5 am and goes to bed at 11pm while working full time, being a ’super-mom’ and posting relentlessly on blogs! – yeah your ‘alias’ is real believable – anorexia girl! About as believable as you ever being a liberal, or a mother, especially one that tells dead baby jokes about her own supposedly deceased child. You’re one disturbed little chick! eat a tic tac – st*pid b****h.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:54 amBARTLEBEE oh wow, if you cant get it up, give me yours, ill come there, wimp
Comment by Funbra — September 4, 2007 @ 1:53 am
Thats it.
Squirm little man.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:54 amEven more oddly they think they KNOW what the person sitting behind a screen, just like them, IS or IS NOT and judges them by their FRAMING.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 1:49 am
Reading too much Lakoff. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:54 amCalling people out on the internet, is what a little chump like umbra does, when he can’t handle the format. Usually this is because his brain is just too small.
I blame it on poor nutrition.
September 4th, 2007 at 1:56 amRonny – Here’s a thought before I log off – If you can’t feed them….don’t breed them….And if you’re afraid you wonâ€t know who your babies’ daddy is, take precautions….. Tooodles………
Comment by mighty aphrodite
LOL, Mighty Aphrodite, Valiant Venus, doesn’t realized how ‘framed’ they are. Just look at the amount of projection on every post, and she probably believes everything she said is absolutely undeniably true.
Its a rather new phenom “Media induced illness”
September 4th, 2007 at 1:57 amBARTLEBEE i agree im squirming {ping trace}
September 4th, 2007 at 1:57 amim shaking in my boots and worried about how a
lesbian could get as far as you
Comment by NRA Gunnutes — September 4, 2007 @ 1:54 am
Way to avoid the point! Lib mantra for the duration of the war: “We do support the troops, we do support the troops, we do supprt the troops.” There seem to be too many cracks in the wall lately. Don’t your guard down now. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 1:58 amReading too much Lakoff. ;)
Comment by upright left
Naw, I read about him years ago. The trolls still haven’t figured it out though. 8^D The trolls have taken their ignorance of that to a whole new level
September 4th, 2007 at 1:59 amPing trace? You’re referring to an ICMP traceroute? To who? Think Progress?
Or are you perchance, confessing on the internet in print, that you hacked TP’s servers and stole their database IP logs?
Please say its the latter.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:01 amYou understand this is not a peer to peer connection.
This is a client\server connection.
That means, in order to connect to another client, you need to first have access to the server.
:|
You’re none too bright, are you?
September 4th, 2007 at 2:03 ami agree im squirming {ping trace}
im shaking in my boots and worried about how a
lesbian could get as far as you
See Umbra here is another example, he thinks that all liberals are gay or lesbian.
Ya know umbra, by now you could have sent ten million pings.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:03 amsee your email
September 4th, 2007 at 2:03 amYa know umbra, by now you could have sent ten million pings.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 2:03 am
Considering ICMP groper packets are timed in miliseconds, thats a fairly reasonable calculation.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:04 amNaw, I read about him years ago. The trolls still haven’t figured it out though. 8^D The trolls have taken their ignorance of that to a whole new level
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 1:59 am
Apparently you’ve forgotten that, according to Lakoff, Republicans are masters at framing. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 2:05 amIf you can’t feed them….don’t breed them….
Tooodles………
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 1:46 am
Like the deadbeat dads Newt Gingrich and J.C. Watts? Those two are also conservative values preachers.
After having his wife sign divorce papers while in the recovery room from chemotherapy, Newt never paid support to her or their two daughters. They had to go begging the church for food and rent.
Watts fathered two children out-of-wedlock with two different women and never paid child support.
In the last poll that I saw, “values voters” preferred Democrats.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:05 amsee your email
Comment by verizon — September 4, 2007 @ 2:03 am
What email?
September 4th, 2007 at 2:05 amUmbra may be doing a traceroute to TPs server. If so all hes gonna get is the routers along the way.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:06 amWhen he shows up at TP headquarters, hopefully Faiz will have enough film in his camera to capture the intial citizens arrest and associated beating, his police arrest and the sentencing hearing.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:07 amApparently you’ve forgotten that, according to Lakoff, Republicans are masters at framing. ;) Comment by upright left
Perhaps some at Roves level, or Limbaugh, FOX etc.. but the trolls have no idea, I think, how they are being used.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:08 amIran must be attacked because Iran is arming the insurgency in Iraq.
China must be attacked because China is arming the Taleban in Afghanistan.
We are killing people everywhere but that’s ok because we’re just doing god’s work, right?
Oh, Happy Days are here again!!
Can the Rupture be too far behind?
(cue in appropriate church music…)
September 4th, 2007 at 2:09 amBARTLEBEE hey, see you next week, gnight
September 4th, 2007 at 2:10 amHmm. Seems umbra’s brain has sprung a leak.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:10 amLOL Troll Brainer.
I should help him by giving him my IP address. umbra kinda reminds me of Rachel with her ‘tacmark’ ™©® silliness.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:11 amComment by verizon
Umbra seems to think your on a Verizon account TBrainer
September 4th, 2007 at 2:12 amBARTLEBEE hey, see you next week, gnight
Comment by verizon — September 4, 2007 @ 2:10 am
I doubt that very seriously.
But thanks for recording your threats. It will make it much easier to explain why I had to bash your skull in with a cinder block like that.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:14 amPerhaps some at Roves level, or Limbaugh, FOX etc.. but the trolls have no idea, I think, how they are being used.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 2:08 am
More likely, they understand the language perfectly, and libs are trying to find a way to explain away their lack of power of the last few years without admitting that their policies were at fault. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 2:14 amPerhaps some at Roves level, or Limbaugh, FOX etc.. but the trolls have no idea, I think, how they are being used.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 2:08 am
I don’t watch or listen to any of those sources. Most of my info comes from TP, but when I read the article that is linked, it becomes apparent that TP is lying or twisting the facts.
TP made me a conservative.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:19 amPoor umbra. Too stupid to hang in a debate, so he resorts to threatening bloggers. This is a man meant to have his photo displayed prominently at US Post offices around the country.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:20 amTP made me a conservative.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 2:19 am
Wow.
Thats some trick for a blog.
In contrast Bush and guys like you, made me a liberal.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:21 amand libs are trying to find a way to explain away their lack of power of the last few years without admitting that their policies were at fault. ;) – UL
That and they couldnt get anything passed because of the RubberStamper GOP house and Congress. They were running around in circles, and now that they have taken congress and the house back they are unable to gell into a cohesive force.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:23 amThat and they couldnt get anything passed because of the RubberStamper GOP house and Congress. …
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 2:23 am
You mean, those big, bad Republicans still had all the power despite a Democrat majority!!!
Boo hoo hoo….
September 4th, 2007 at 2:25 amYea. A democratic majority of 1.
Wow. What an overwhelming majority.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:27 amI don’t watch or listen to any of those sources. Most of my info comes from TP, but when I read the article that is linked, it becomes apparent that TP is lying or twisting the facts.
TP made me a conservative.
Naw, your more like an independent, I think. Heck go to freerepublic if you want to see some twisting of facts.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:28 amYou mean, those big, bad Republicans still had all the power despite a Democrat majority!!! Boo hoo hoo….
I was speaking of the period from 1995 to 2006.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:30 amTP made me a conservative.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 2:19 am
Sorry, but if anyone made you THAT stupid, it was your inbred parents! Your poppa really shouldn’t have raped your sister that way to make your momma!
September 4th, 2007 at 2:32 amI was speaking of the period from 1995 to 2006.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 2:30 am
Mr. Pee is as dumb as a sack of rocks… He’s extree DUH tonight…
September 4th, 2007 at 2:33 amBig fat republicans is more like it.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:34 amWay to avoid the point! Lib mantra for the duration of the war: “We do support the troops, we do support the troops, we do supprt the troops.†There seem to be too many cracks in the wall lately. Don’t your guard down now. ;) Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 1:58 am
Cracks in the walls? Maybe you were referring to the Veterans hospitals? Or maybe you were referring to troop readiness? Or maybe troop morale? Or maybe you were referring to how now the MAJORITY of the troops are neither Republican nor in favor of Iraq?
Don’t let your guard down now. ;) Reality might smack that lard ridden ugly zitty inbred fat *ssed face of yours – CONTARD!
September 4th, 2007 at 2:35 amPoor umbra.
Guess he’ll just have to change handles now.
Alas. We knew him well.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:41 amMaybe you were referring to the Veterans hospitals? Or maybe you were referring to troop readiness? Or maybe troop morale? Or maybe you were referring to how now the MAJORITY of the troops are neither Republican nor in favor of Iraq?
Comment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 2:35 am
Nope, just referring to how libs are slipping in their facade of supporting the troops. You’ve done so well, until the last month or so, at keeping up the appearancce of not hating the military. Don’t lose it now, bud. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 2:42 amMaybe we should support upright by chipping in and sending him to Iraq.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:44 amMaybe we should support upright by chipping in and sending him to Iraq.
Comment by Keith — September 4, 2007 @ 2:44 am
Thanks for the offer, bud. I assure you my status with the military is exactly as it should be. This seems to be the pat lib comment to deflect attention from your slams against the military. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 2:47 amThanks for the offer, bud. I assure you my status with the military is exactly as it should be. This seems to be the pat lib comment to deflect attention from your slams against the military. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 2:47 am
You mean a cowardly republican bigmouth that won’t serve? ;) That would be consistent with your party bigmouths, that’s for sure, son!
September 4th, 2007 at 2:52 ambud. I assure you my status with the military is exactly as it should be.
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 2:47 am
Yea. Non existent.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:53 amNope, just referring to how libs are slipping in their facade of supporting the troops.
-UL
I dont buy that facade stuff your posting UL. The troops are being used for nation building, a Republican ideology, and thats what we shoudn’t be doing and the reason many dont support the Iraqi Freedom Operation but DO support the troops.
Even \/\/ said they shouldn’t be used for that. Notice you didn’t see the ‘libs’ [your framing] not objecting to going into Afghanistan.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:53 amNope, just referring to how libs are slipping in their facade of supporting the troops. You’ve done so well, until the last month or so, at keeping up the appearancce of not hating the military. Don’t lose it now, bud. ;) Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 2:42 am
Then it must really suck for you to see all of the polls that show the military personnel and their families disagree with you. Don’t lose it now, son! That keeping up appearances of pretending to support the troops while you send them off to die and be injured in a war of choice must make it hard for you to keep up the appearance you ‘care’, just because you SAY you care. Ok Son?
September 4th, 2007 at 2:54 amYou mean a cowardly republican bigmouth that won’t serve? ;) That would be consistent with your party bigmouths, that’s for sure, son!
Comment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 2:52 am
Sorry, retard, but the military has traditionally been conservative. Thus, the reason for the hatred by lefties, bud. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 2:54 amNotice you didn’t see the ‘libs’ [your framing] not objecting to going into Afghanistan.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 2:53 am
???
You mean objecting to going into Afghanistan?
September 4th, 2007 at 2:57 amUpright Left seems to be under the illusion that there are no Conservative Democrats.
Texas Democrats are usually more conservative then their Republican counterparts. This ‘Lib’ stuff to me means nothing Upright Left.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:58 amSorry, retard, but the military has traditionally been conservative. Thus, the reason for the hatred by lefties, bud. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 2:54 am
Yea? Whats the percentage of black Amwricans in the Military. Whats the percentage of black Americans that are republican?
Sure pal. You keep telling yoursel fthe military is conservative.
September 4th, 2007 at 2:59 amTexas Democrats are usually more conservative then their Republican counterparts. This ‘Lib’ stuff to me means nothing Upright Left.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 2:58 am
I know all about conservative Dems, bud. I was one until the Dem party was hijacked by ultra libs and moved so far left that conservative Dems became Independents or center Republicans. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 3:01 amYou mean objecting to going into Afghanistan?
Comment by BARTLEBEE
I mean many Democrats had no problems about going into Afghanistan. It was going into Iraq that I objected to.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:02 amI mean many Democrats had no problems about going into Afghanistan. It was going into Iraq that I objected to.
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 3:02 am
Ok. It was just the way you added the “not” to objecting that through me. I guess that was just a typo.
As for Afghanistan, I didn’t object or encourage it. I encouraged getting the people responsible for 911. And they told me they were in Afghanistan.
But then they told me, and everyone, exactly when and where they were going in. Months in advance.
Then when they got there and looked around, and said “where’s Osama?”, Osama was long gona.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:06 amI was one until the Dem party was hijacked by ultra libs and moved so far left that conservative Dems became Independents or center Republicans. ;)
What do you think the neo-cons are?
September 4th, 2007 at 3:06 amOk. It was just the way you added the “not†to objecting that through me. I guess that was just a typo.
Yet it looked weird in the sentence, I am tired and about ready to snooze. =|
September 4th, 2007 at 3:08 amThe kook-fringe, far-left, moonbats, ultra-libs, like the ones here at TP, will be gone soon. Their ideology is self-defeating!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:09 amSure pal. You keep telling yoursel fthe military is conservative.
Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 4, 2007 @ 2:59 am
You need to read a little, bartie. Not only is the military traditionally conservative, but black Americans are no longer content with the token support of the Dems. Black Americans are increasingly becoming a larger part of the middle class rather than being a permanent underclass beholden to the dems. And black Americans have traditionally been social conservatives, which is the area of concern that drove so many people to vote Republican in the last 20 years or so. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 3:11 amThe kook-fringe, far-left, moonbats, ultra-libs, like the ones here at TP, will be gone soon. Their ideology is self-defeating! Comment by AVGVSTVS
You keep saying that but I see more Kooks on the other side of the fence not to mention the culture of corruption the GOP became.
The evagelists, the Mcveigh types, are a little to happy about war and creating armageddon.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:14 amWhat do you think the neo-cons are?
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 3:06 am
Most folks on TP seem to use neo-con interchangeably with the extreme right, so the distinction means nothing here. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 3:15 amComment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 2:52 am
Sorry, retard, but the military has traditionally been conservative. Thus, the reason for the hatred by lefties, bud. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 2:54 am
Not true. That’s only been in the last 30 years or so, since vietnam. And traditions change, as has the military, BUD. Thus, the reason for the hatred of the righties by much of the military and their families. Do try to keep up, loser.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:15 amSending our troops into a no-win situation in a hellhole to kill and be killed, all based on lies is NOT “supporting” them.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:16 amMost folks on TP seem to use neo-con interchangeably with the extreme right, so the distinction means nothing here. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:15 am
Actually, that depends. NeoCons are only one aspect of extreme right, you wingnuts have SEVERAL. Don’t forget all of your religious bigots!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:16 amComment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 3:14 am
Yeah, but you guys will eventually turn on each other, or be forced into submission by people with more power.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:16 amhich is the area of concern that drove so many people to vote Republican in the last 20 years or so. ;) Comment by upright left
I don’t think scooter would agree with that =)
Most of the blacks I know think Bush is kinda racist, like that scooter guy.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:18 amBlack Americans are increasingly becoming a larger part of the middle class rather than being a permanent underclass beholden to the dems. And black Americans have traditionally been social conservatives, which is the area of concern that drove so many people to vote Republican in the last 20 years or so. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:11 am
Haven’t you heard? Most middle class vote DEM, and current demographics show a dramatic shift left that’s bigger than anything in several generations. Including within that black middle class Rove deluded you into thinking you’d own! And just so you know, blacks aren’t ‘beholden’ to Dems, they’re just smart enough to vote for the party that represents their interests along with the nation’s interest – something YOU wouldn’t understand. Since the only reason you vote republican is what you think you can BLEED from their policies – and that’s why you project your own pettiness on african americans.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:18 amComment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 3:15 am
C’mon, now retard. Ya can’t just rewrite history to fit your view of the world, bud. Well, actually you can, but then you’ll just continue to look foolish. Just trying to help ya out, bud. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 3:19 amYeah, but you guys will eventually turn on each other, or be forced into submission by people with more power.
Comment by AVGVSTVS — September 4, 2007 @ 3:16 am
You mean like the GOP has… Sure… Keep telling yourself fairy tales, sport.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:19 amC’mon, now retard. Ya can’t just rewrite history to fit your view of the world, bud. Well, actually you can, but then you’ll just continue to look foolish. Just trying to help ya out, bud. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:19 am
Says the f*cker that knows nothing about history! Ah the IRONY! You helping someone out – the blind leading the blind! Now that’s humor!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:20 amAmericans more liberal than at any time in a generation:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/03/3594/
September 4th, 2007 at 3:22 amPoor downright stupid, I’ll help you out, pitiful little b*llsh*t artist…
Yeah, HISTORICALLY CONSERVATIVE? BAHAHA, you’re an idiot, downright stupid!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:23 amYeah, but you guys will eventually turn on each other, or be forced into submission by people with more power. Comment by AVGVSTVS
Your projecting your opinion of what YOU think I am. And your wrong.
Most folks on TP seem to use neo-con with the extreme right.
No, the neo-cons are from the nutty proffessor club. Wolfowitz, Kristol, Kagan etc..the ‘Philosophers’ The eavangelists are what I consider the extremists those who turned Jesus into some God of war..
September 4th, 2007 at 3:24 am“The survey also found that 51 percent of Iowa Republicans want to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq within six months.”
September 4th, 2007 at 3:26 amThe eavangelists are what I consider the extremists those who turned Jesus into some God of war..
Comment by Ichthus — September 4, 2007 @ 3:24 am
Of which Mr. Pee is a member of… He also is under the delusion that his pantheon of ‘gods’ (jesus, mary, poppa, satan, demons, angels) isn’t paganism – I find that amusing!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:28 amLinK
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/giraldi.php?articleid=10760
Party’s flip from time to time.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:30 am“Haven’t you heard? Most middle class vote DEM, and current demographics show a dramatic shift left that’s bigger than anything in several generations.”
A few middle class folks apparently forgot they were supposed to vote dem when Reagan, Bush, and Bush were elected. The reason for the current shift is that people want the war to end, not a fundamental shift to lib causes.
“And just so you know, blacks aren’t ‘beholden’ to Dems”
I just told ya that, bud, try to keep up now.
“… they’re just smart enough to vote for the party that represents their interests along with the nation’s interest…”
See above regarding elections.
“- something YOU wouldn’t understand. Since the only reason you vote republican is what you think you can BLEED from their policies – and that’s why you project your own pettiness on african americans.”
Comment by michaelIsRetarded — September 4, 2007 @ 3:18 am
When I vote Republican, it’s because the Dems field candidates like Kerry-Heinz and all that entails.
I don’t project anything on African Americans. I give them credit for taking responsibility and being moral people. I don’t expect them to continue to support a party that espouses policies that conflict with their moral values. That would be you libs, bud. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 3:33 amQuinnipiac University Poll
“If the 2008 election for president were being held today, do you think you would vote for the Democratic candidate or the Republican candidate?”
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8/7-13/07
Democrat Republican
46% 34%
6/5-11/07
September 4th, 2007 at 3:34 amDemocrat 47%
Republican 32%
In this poll, generic Dem beats generic Republican 51% to 27%
Diageo/Hotline Poll conducted by Financial Dynamics. July 19-22, 2007. N=801 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.5.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:38 amIn this poll, generic Dem beats generic Republican 51% to 27%
Diageo/Hotline Poll conducted by Financial Dynamics. July 19-22, 2007. N=801 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.5.
Comment by Keith — September 4, 2007 @ 3:38 am
Because people want the war to end. ;)
September 4th, 2007 at 3:41 amWhen I vote Republican, it’s because the Dems field candidates like Kerry-Heinz and all that entails.
Bah, Kerry and Bush both hail from Yale and the same frat.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:42 amBecause people want the war to end. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:41 am
One among a countless stream of failures that the public is sick of… GOP incompetence knows no bounds, nor does your willingness to lie, look foolish, and have yourself constantly corrected as being an idiot. You can thank me later, BUD, for pointing out you were an ignorant liar, and knew no history.
A few middle class folks apparently forgot they were supposed to vote dem when Reagan, Bush, and Bush were elected. The reason for the current shift is that people want the war to end, not a fundamental shift to lib causes. Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:33 am
So you admit the shift, and call all of your fellow GOPers that claim there is no shift a LIAR? Works for me. As for WHY the shift, ah, simple minds can only find simple reasons. Sorry, BUD, but that’s one of MANY reasons.
I just told ya that, bud, try to keep up now. Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:33 am
Actually you contradicted yourself, I pointed it out, but you missed it, try to keep up now, downright stupid.
See above regarding elections. Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:33 am
See above regarding my corrections to your stupidity.
When I vote Republican, it’s because the Dems field candidates like Kerry-Heinz and all that entails. Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:33 am
Yeah, he’s so much worse than Cheerleader George!!! bhaaha, YOU’RE AN IDIOT!
I don’t project anything on African Americans. Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:33 am
But you did, I already established that.
I give them credit for taking responsibility and being moral people. Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:33 am
Which is why they vote Dem, unlike you, hypocrite.
I don’t expect them to continue to support a party that espouses policies that conflict with their moral values. That would be you libs, bud. ;) Comment by upright left — September 4, 2007 @ 3:33 am
You mean like caring for the poor, not using their young as cannon fodder, and working to make their communities stronger instead of only working to exploit their labor cheaply? I agree, that’s why they vote DEM, downright stupid!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:51 amHere is the thing:
This is good news. It doesn’t show that the occupation is working, it doesn’t make a case for the surge, and it doesn’t say anything one way or the other for the troops, but it is good news because…
It shows that the Iraqi’s in Anbar are starting to stand up. It means you have a potential ally, provided you give them credit where it is due, and it means that there is a chance for stability in Iraq provided America recognises it.
It is a change in the field of operations in America’s favour. Don’t stuff it up.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:58 amThe US wants to control that part of the world. The main reason is the oil. The Iraqis ain’t dumb and they do not like being someone’s colony. They do not like having their resources stolen. They do not like being turned into the second-worst failed state in the world with one million dead and four million refugees.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:07 amBeing able to land at a US air base with 10,000 troops making sure an Iraqi doesn’t come within 10.5 miles of Bush is not wonderful news.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:09 amKeith
The US right now wants out. What Anbar shows is that the Iraqis can sort themselves out and that they do not need America in order for them to do it.
It means that you can start declaring victory and leaving.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:09 amComment by Bruce Gorton — September 4, 2007 @ 3:58 am
Wrong! You should have read through some of the comments!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:23 am
September 4th, 2007 at 4:23 am
AVGVSTVS
Ah, so you are saying that it doesn’t mean Iraq is suddenly looking a wee bit less like Bush has set up a situation where the US is trapped in a lose-lose situation – either you lose by withdrawing and sparking a genocide, or you lose by staying and sparking your own economic collapse.
You know, less like a quagmire and more like something where you might actually stand a chance of winning because at last there are signs that the Iraqis are capable of standing up themselves.
My mistake, I thought you liked the chimp.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:29 amThose are Saddam’s boys…the “terrorists”… we cut a deal with.. make no mistake.. the dictator is dead but his supporters live on and the united states is now crowing about an alliance with the very people we went in to remove from power…because the Bad sunnis were opressing the NIce shias…
now, with the bush cabal claiming 70 percent of attacks against troops are coming from iranian backed shias, it seems the group we “liberated” aren’t as appreciative as we had hoped. So congratualtions Bush, your crowing about making an alliance with the same people your hero Reagan did 20 years ago, only now they arent strong enough to crush the same people we wanted them to opress 20 years ago…iranian influenced shias… so now, we’re basically back to Iraq the way it was 20 years ago, minus one dictator and about half a million additional iraqis, plus a destroyed and totally dysfuntional infrastructure to boot. oh.. and Iran has enormously more influence in the region now…
GO BUSH!!!!
September 4th, 2007 at 5:46 amWOW!!
Almost 10 continuous hours of total nonsense posted by DISGVSTVS.
Talk about not having a life.
Truly Pitiful.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:55 amChocolate Jesus
Iraq 20 years ago was better then it was looking 20 days ago – you do not want an endless civil war over Iraq’s oil fields.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:05 amChris in Paris asks where all the Rumsfeld critics were when the war started
September 4th, 2007 at 7:33 am“never left the confines of the air base” pretty much tells the story. This was a staged event strictly done as a Photo Op to sell the failed surge. (unless you call achieving 3 out of 18 objectives “success” – not in my book!) In any case, once again The Chimp outdid himself in stupidity. This photo op, coupled with the infamous Mission Accomplished photo op will become his legacy. A legacy of scripts for Comedy Central, that’s what his legacy will be.
What will John Stewart and all of the comedians do without Lil’ Bush to provide fodder for their shows?
September 4th, 2007 at 8:03 amOn How al-Anbar isn’t that Safe
and on How its “Calm” is Artificially Produced
Bush made a surprise visit to Al-Anbar Province on Monday, as part of his propaganda drive to get Americans to think we should stay in Iraq because “progress” is being made.
The debate over al-Anbar province is driven by the Bushies’ desire to find any ‘good news’ to grasp at. Indeed, from 2003 forward, their criterion for objective reporting on Iraq was that it gave the ‘good news.’ When there obviously wasn’t any good news, they started ignoring Iraq, as at Fox [Republican TV] Cable News.
Now the ‘good news’ appears (I swear to God) to be that you can “walk” in Iraq. That’s the good news. The 8 billion people in the world walk every day, in most of the world’s locales. Now it is an achievement to walk. That’s good news of the highest order. Only, if you are American in Fallujah you might need a company of Marines with you so that you can . . . walk. (See below).
Is al-Anbar Province really paradise, as Bush suggested?
Al-Anbar residents killed 20 US troops in July.
http://www.juancole.com
September 4th, 2007 at 8:39 am“‘I have come here today to see with our own eyes”….
September 4th, 2007 at 11:44 amwould that be the ROYAL “our”, as in “we sit on the toilet and contemplate our sour legacy”?
Bunch of slackjawed trolls still running their mouths?
Someone toss em a few ears of corn to root on.
September 4th, 2007 at 12:08 pm