High school student criticizes McCain on gay marriage.
By on Sep 4th, 2007 at 3:40 pm
High school student criticizes McCain on gay marriage.
This morning, a high school student challenged Sen. John McCain about his age, causing McCain to jokingly refer to the student as “a little jerk.” The troubles for McCain didn’t end there. Another student pressed him with regards to his stance on gay marriage. Here’s the exchange:
Student: “Do you support civil unions or gay marriage?”
McCain: “I do not. I think that they impinge on the status and the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman.”
Student: “So you believe in taking away someone’s rights because you believe it’s wrong?”
McCain: “I wouldn’t put that interpretation on my position, but I understand yours.” [...]
Student: “I came here looking to see a leader. I don’t.”
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Republicans lose the game show “Are you smarter than a high school student”
September 4th, 2007 at 3:42 pmMcCain: “You know what I see? A little jerk! Whydontcha go jerk off you jerking jerkmeister! Hey, jerk! The jerk store called–they’re all out of YOU!”
September 4th, 2007 at 3:44 pm————
amazing how brainwashed by feminism/socialism/communism today’s youth are. disrespectful too. that’s what happens when you remove the father from though. you destroyed the family, remember?
can’t wait to see the disastrous results of all this brainwashing.
what’s next? a student making fun of McCain based on the global warming myth?
yawn – do feminists/socialists/progressives/communists use anything other than propaganda?
just curious
September 4th, 2007 at 3:45 pm————
He shoots! He scores!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:45 pmStudent: “I came here looking to see a leader. I don’t.â€
Game.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:47 pmSet.
Match.
American Senators have no power to rule on “sanctity”. The student doesn’t see a leader, I can’t even see an American.
Anyway, there’s no sacrament of marriage until 1215, so this is all bullshit.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:48 pm.
“Is there any reason why TP never criticizes Democrats on the gay marriage issue or any issue for that matter?”
Comment by Brassmask
Because Dems aren’t closeted self-hating freaks, like the dysfunctional republicans.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:48 pmStudent: “I came here looking to see a leader. I don’t.â€
Now that is the funniest thing I have read all morning.
Must suck to McCain right now, lmao.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:48 pmStudent: “I came here looking to see a leader. I don’t.â€
NO you did not you little flamer, you came here to be a condescending mouth piece for your Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging, granola eating, homo-loving hippie parents.
If McCain had a pair here would be his response to THIS little jerk…
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Is this kid one of the group that gave W a letter asking him to stop torturing in the name of America? I have hope for the future.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“Is there any reason why TP never criticizes Democrats on the gay marriage issue or any issue for that matter?
Comment by Brassmask”
Which issue would you like to see them criticized for? And on what basis?
You’re certainly not going to see republic party talking points used as a basis for criticizing democratic candidates. If that’s what you’re wondering.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:49 pm“I came here looking to see a leader. I don’t.â€
Next candidate please!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:49 pmComment by Brassmask — September 4, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Uh probably because it is a partisan website, devoted to democratic ideas. You could ask why doesn’t Redstate ever criticize any republican, unless they are caught in a gay sex scandal.
OT, Looks like McCain is done if he is getting owned by high school kids. Not that he was ever that much of a contender this year.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:50 pmComment by Billy Hill
Rachel’s off her meds again…
September 4th, 2007 at 3:50 pmAnd that, my firends, is why Chimpy NEVER takes questions from a crowd that has not been hand-selected for Chimp-friendly positions.
He may be stupid, but he ain’t dumb…
September 4th, 2007 at 3:50 pmYes, Billy Hill. I think that would have been so much better it McCain had flipped off a high school student. It would have shown that McCain, like you, just can’t stand how irrelevant your pathetic little superstitions are any more.
Feeling … left behind?
September 4th, 2007 at 3:51 pm.
After the student said that McCain replied with:
“I understand. I thank you,” McCain said. “That’s what America is all about.”
September 4th, 2007 at 3:51 pmHe gets flamed, and that’s good? That’s not immature. ::rolls eyes::
That said, he’s a moron. The idea of him getting to control the little red button that makes the world go “boom” scares the heck out of me.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:52 pmIf InVain had a pair of Birkenstocks, maybe he wouldn’t be so cranky.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:53 pmBetter circulation could also help his mental functions.
Comment by Billy Hill
Yeah McCain could have flipped off a High School student and promptly killed his election campaign and any future election chances for that matter.
Dumba$$
September 4th, 2007 at 3:54 pmYes, Billy Hill. I think that would have been so much better it McCain had flipped off a high school student.
Comment by Grand Moff Texan — September 4, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
At this point in McCains campaigne it sure couldn t hurt…….buy, buy Johnny………
September 4th, 2007 at 3:54 pmLOL #2 Jerk-store! Ha!!
September 4th, 2007 at 3:55 pmIt’s hard, hard, I tellya, to try and get the rabid foamers of the Rethuglican party to vote fer ya…. “Pottage”….
Cheers,
September 4th, 2007 at 3:57 pmThis kid’s Parents should be soo damn proud!
I see a leader. But it’s not McCain, its the kid.
September 4th, 2007 at 3:59 pm#
“Is there any reason why TP never criticizes Democrats on the gay marriage issue or any issue for that matter?
Comment by Brassmask — September 4, 2007 @ 3:46 pm”
I cant find “Hate Gays” in the Democratic party platform. Seriously, its not in there.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:01 pmHomophobic superstition is now an open joke. Good. So are the people who promote it. This is a generation that’s ready to flush what’s left of the Republican party. Preying on ignorance and superstition is finally going to have consequences, hallelujah!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pm.
McCain sucks!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:04 pmI see a leader. But it’s not McCain, its the kid.
Comment by Maddie
Amen.
McCain has spent the last 7 years becoming the good little toadie, figuring, like bob dole before him, that if he just went along with his party it would be “his turn”. And in the process he flushed any credibility he had as an alternative voice for the country.
These public events of his might actually get more popular, but only as potential YouTube moments…
September 4th, 2007 at 4:04 pmGrand Moff Texan ,
September 4th, 2007 at 4:05 pmCongratulations.
Your Leftist school system and media has brainwashed the youth into thinking Gay Marriage or Gay sex is normal.
What next, to accept Sharia law,
If you think Gay sex is normal why wasn’t the anus constructed for sex?
McCain shoulda whipped out his side-arm and shot the punk, like a real man, dammit! I guess them Cong got to ‘im. Must be in a jar in Hanoi right now.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:05 pmIs there any reason why TP never criticizes Democrats on the gay marriage issue or any issue for that matter?
Comment by Brassmask — September 4, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Because they at least support full civil unions with equal legal rights in every way, something you anti-equality bigots don’t support!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:06 pmMcCain ois against Gay marriage so he sucks!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:06 pmIf McCain had a pair here would be his response to THIS little jerk…
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Comment by Billy Hill — September 4, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Anyone else find it hilarious that the homophobic wingnut thinks of ‘f*ck-you’ when talking about gay rights? What’s wrong Craig, still fighting those gay sex urges by using the public restroom to hide your desires?
September 4th, 2007 at 4:07 pm#
Grand Moff Texan ,
Congratulations.
Your Leftist school system and media has brainwashed the youth into thinking Gay Marriage or Gay sex is normal.
What next, to accept Sharia law,
If you think Gay sex is normal why wasn’t the anus constructed for sex?
Comment by Victor — September 4, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Not only do repug idiots have short penises but they have short memories.
Since when is slamming your schlong into a womans mouth normal? yet…I bet you never turned down a blowjob?
September 4th, 2007 at 4:08 pmI perfer Gay sex myself.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:08 pmI like getting it rammed up my ass!
Let’s see if we can pick a President that represents all the people this time. The way things are going backward alot more prejudice will be allowed. All people are created equal, that meaning has been lost in the past 7 years. McCain is so far behind that he will say what ever the GOP wants in hope of getting George W. Bush’s base. It’s nice to see the hard questions being asked and reporters don’t do that but they get paid.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:09 pmI would like to see more criticism of Democrats views on gay rights. It would help differentiate Kucinich from the rest.
Although, I doubt that’s the outcome Brassmask is after…
September 4th, 2007 at 4:10 pmComment by Billy Hill:
If McCain had a pair here would be his response to THIS little jerk
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You mean something like that which George W. Bush did to the TV camera during his Governor’s campaign in Texas and what he’s continued doing to America? (actual vidcap of Bush flipping the bird)
http://www.seancoon.org/wp-content/postimages/bush_middle_finger.jpg
September 4th, 2007 at 4:12 pmsucks how i get censored but the guy talking abt getting rammed in teh ass is still there.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:12 pmscratch that my comment is back – silly me
September 4th, 2007 at 4:13 pmUncle Bob….it was a gesture as a reply to a statment…not duplicitous or pretentious… stop swearing…. I’m not Larry…… I’m Billy and I am not homophobic…I AM gay…now what do you have to say………….BIG GUY?
September 4th, 2007 at 4:16 pmComment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — September 4, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
More like this Beaver…………..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ypa75axdK6o
September 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pmthe kid’s onto something….there is absolutely no sign of an honorable leader anywhere in the current political arena. The kid sees a huckster like Hillary Clinton and non-visionaries like John McCain and scratches his head.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pmIf you think Gay sex is normal why wasn’t the anus constructed for sex?
Comment by Victor
Isn’t this a question better posed to larry craig or mark foley, or ted haggert, or bob allen?
on a related topic, if wearing diapers isn’t normal how come they make depends? Ask vitter, mcain and thompson.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:22 pm“The assembled students murmured…”
Looks as if even his fellow students realized that the kid was a snot-nosed punk who managed to not only embarass himself but his classmates.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:23 pm“The assembled students murmured…â€
This is simply the usual response of frightened herd animals…..
September 4th, 2007 at 4:26 pmComment by Victor — September 4, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
I understand yours is, Victor. George Bush has been using it for years.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:27 pmThere is no rational basis for homophobia, which is why homophobes are so completely stupid. Check out this guy:
Your Leftist school system and media has brainwashed the youth into thinking Gay Marriage or Gay sex is normal.
OK, I’m not sure where “normal” came from, but I’m pretty sure the homophobe doesn’t either. But the really funny part comes next:
What next, to accept Sharia law,
Isn’t that rich! Who knew that Islamic extremists were so accepting of homosexuality?
No, in reality, the American religious right and the Islamists are two peas in the pod. Same superstitions, same ignorance, same hatred. Now you know how ignorant you’d have to be to still be a homophobe in this day and age.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, it’s time for the punchline!
If you think Gay sex is normal why wasn’t the anus constructed for sex?
If you think the anus wasn’t constructed for sex, bend over and I’ll show you the error of your ways! You won’t believe what you’ve been missing!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:28 pm.
Looks as if even his fellow students realized that the kid was a snot-nosed punk who managed to not only embarass himself but his classmates.
Comment by Exley
Yeah, what a punk…a punky punking punk! McCain sure showed that punk! Him and his snot-nose! I wonder if that punk feels lucky? McCain’ll show him–he was in the ‘Nam, and he ate little punk shits like him for breakfast!
September 4th, 2007 at 4:29 pmLooks as if even his fellow students realized that the kid was a snot-nosed punk who managed to not only embarass himself but his classmates.
Comment by Exley
Quit asking, Exley! I’ve told you a thousand times, I do not want you to perform oral sex on me.
Geeze, what is it with these guys?
September 4th, 2007 at 4:30 pm.
If you think Gay sex is normal why wasn’t the anus constructed for sex?
If you think the anus wasn’t constructed for sex, bend over and I’ll show you the error of your ways! You won’t believe what you’ve been missing!
.
Comment by Grand Moff Texan — September 4, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
LOL Thanks for the laugh GMT
September 4th, 2007 at 4:31 pmLooks as if even his fellow students realized that the kid was a snot-nosed punk who managed to not only embarass himself but his classmates.
Comment by Exley — September 4, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
So I guess if the ‘kid’ was an ‘adult’ you would call him a traitor and an enabler of the enemy! Get a kleenex Exley, your node id rudding.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:33 pmTypical Republican morning with a hangover:
“Why do all the fags keep s*cking my d*ck?”
September 4th, 2007 at 4:35 pmGet a kleenex Exley, your node id rudding.
Aw, he’s just jealous of Victor.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:37 pm.
Grand Moff Texan ,
Congratulations.
Your Leftist school system and media has brainwashed the youth into thinking Gay Marriage or Gay sex is normal.
What next, to accept Sharia law,
If you think Gay sex is normal why wasn’t the anus constructed for sex?
Comment by Victor — September 4, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Um, …..
nevermind…
TOO EASY….
;)
September 4th, 2007 at 4:39 pmUncle Bob….it was a gesture as a reply to a statment…not duplicitous or pretentious… stop swearing…. I’m not Larry…… I’m Billy and I am not homophobic…I AM gay…now what do you have to say………….BIG GUY?
Comment by Billy Hill — September 4, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
If you are gay, then I’m Wally the Wonder Beaver…
September 4th, 2007 at 4:40 pmMuslims are 1% f the American population and these Bush Cultists live in fear of an invading swarm of them taking over the local alderman spots and chopping off the penii of adulterers.
When did the GOP become a pack of girlscouts?
-GSD
September 4th, 2007 at 4:45 pm“If you think Gay sex is normal why wasn’t the anus constructed for sex?”
Ever get a bj Victor? If you sexually frustrated religious freaks would just loosen up and realize there’s more to life than spilling your seed in your one and only wife in the dark, this place would be better off.
You know don’t you that Jebus sees you whacking off in the shower?
September 4th, 2007 at 4:45 pmYour Leftist school system and media has brainwashed the youth into thinking Gay Marriage or Gay sex is normal. — Victor
In other words, The youth are growing up NOT BIGGOTED, like you are and you don’t like it…………..
September 4th, 2007 at 4:49 pmTalk about gay on the brain!
Why do you think Victor felt the need to capitalize “Gay?”
September 4th, 2007 at 4:51 pmIt is sad to see what McCain has become.
September 4th, 2007 at 4:59 pmQuestion presupposes a situation which does not exist. That is, that homosexuals have a right to enter into a relationship called “marriage.†Seems to me by implication there is the suggestion homosexuals want to marry. This belief, that homosexuals want to marry, seems to be strongest among some imaginative heterosexuals.
Same-same gender couples do not have the right to be “married.â€
The relationship called marriage only exists between a man and a woman.
The relationship called perversion exists between a same-same gender couple.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:02 pmbitblt,
You know don’t you, that Jesus walked on the wild side? He said that he enjoyed both experiences, but he preferred it straight.
He damn sure didn’t condemn it like you uptight freaks.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:05 pmComment by bitblt
The student’s question also covered civil unions for same-sex couples, which do exist and are legal, and which mccain also disagreed with–hence the student’s comment about taking away rights.
But nice attempt at misdirection. Oh–I’m sorry, was that just poor reading comprehension on your part?
September 4th, 2007 at 5:06 pmThe Senator lumped them together in one answer. I lumped them together in one comment.
Either way…
The relationship called perversion exists between a same-same gender couple.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:14 pmI think the “snot nosed kid” should have asked McCain, “Which of your THREE marriages’ status and sanctity do you think would be MOST impinged by gay marriage?”
September 4th, 2007 at 5:16 pmWrong again dumbf*ck.
Perversion is sending kids to die for your egotistical war. Perversion is lying to the country to drag us into a useless war so you will be remembered as something more than a loser. We all know how that perversion turned out.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:18 pmhe relationship called perversion exists between a same-same gender couple.
Comment by bitblt — September 4, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
Only in the minds of perverts like you. You are a perversion of freedom, and a piss-poor excuse for an American. I’m very glad that young people are not wearing the same tired, perverse, bigoted, ignorant attitudes that moronic wingnuts like bitbit still flog as if it were the 14th century in mesopotamia. You make the Muslims look very moderate.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:19 pmComment by bitblt — September 4, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Yeah, that’s right!Stupid gays. Just like those Indian-er, Native Americans.I mean come on! Haven’t they ever heard of Manifest Destiny. It was in the Book the CHURCH wrote after all! How could they not agree?
*snark on*
September 4th, 2007 at 5:20 pmhe relationship called perversion exists between a same-same gender couple.
Comment by bitblt — September 4, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
exACTLY!!! Finally, someone who agrees with me that it was ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING to think about KArl Rove, Bush, and Jeff Gannon having ALL THOSE SLOPPY, SEX FILLED NIGHTS together. What was it, like 300 TIMES or something?
NAS-TAY I tells ya, NAS-TAAAAY…
*just threw up in mouth a little…*
September 4th, 2007 at 5:22 pm“The Senator lumped them together in one answer. I lumped them together in one comment.
Comment by bitblt”
Well, your comment started out with an inaccurate statement:
‘Question presupposes a situation which does not exist. That is, that homosexuals have a right to enter into a relationship called “marriage.†‘
The kid’s point was that if mccain considers same-sex civil unions to be illegal “marriages”, and wants to eliminate them, he would be taking rights away from people that already have them.
Your notions of “perversion” are moral and not legal. You’re entitled to have your opinions on same-gender relationships, but stop trying to force them on others in other communities where standards differ.
September 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pmSo Democrat of you. Attack the person and their attitude instead of attacking the argument.
What makes you think even you would want to live in the world you envision?
September 4th, 2007 at 5:25 pmHey, Billy Hill…this is what I have to say:
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“So Democrat of you. Attack the person and their attitude instead of attacking the argument.
Comment by variiski— September 4, 2007 @ 5:25 pm”
What “argument”? bitblt is making a blanket statement that same sex unions are “perversion”. There isn’t an “argument” there, just an opinion.
And I wouldn’t be arguing that it’s somehow a trait of democrats that they “attack the person instead of the argument”–there are too many republic party counter-examples that undermine your theory (karl rove, who torpedoed mccain’s 2000 campaign by spreading the rumor that mccain’s adopted child from Bangladesh was his illegitimate “black baby”, rove and scooter who conspired to out a CIA agent to punish the agent’s husband, etc., etc.)
September 4th, 2007 at 5:35 pmThe kid seems like a future leader to me.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:11 pmWhat makes you think even you would want to live in the world you envision?
Comment by variiski — September 4, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Well, first off, I’m not askeert of the homos. Secondly, I am an American, and that means freedom and equailty for all. ALL! You rightwing clowns have tried since the beginning of history to subjugate everyone not in your inner circle. Women, minorities, children, all have felt the perverse wrath of the materialistic neandertals who insist that their rights as “owners” supercede everybody else’s as humans and Americans. Well, that isn’t what the Constitution says or means, and since there is no gender-specific law against marriage in the Constitution, you have no right to prevent same-sex marriages. On top of that , you have absolutely no reason or compelling argument to prevent them. It is simply a matter of personal choice, equality, and freedom for ALL. anything less is profoundly unAmerican.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:15 pm“I am an American, and that means freedom and equailty for all. ALL!”
Ron – I’m sure you believe 5′3″ Asian women should be allowed in the NBA and that blind people should be allowed to commercially fly 767’s. Unfortunately, those folks are missing the “parts” to effectively perform. Gay people have the opportunity to marry members of the opposite sex – many choose not to. They do not have a right to re-write societal contracts…..in short, the puzzle pieces do not FIT.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:32 pmThat “kid” would make a more noble prez than McFlip-flop.
MA, shut your yap, stupid whore. You WISH you had a vagina that worked LIKE IT’S SUPPOSED TO, don’t ya?
September 4th, 2007 at 6:38 pmNot Canadian – You probably wish you had a change maker that worked….but the fact is not changed by your vulgarity – gay sex is abnormal.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:47 pmNot Canadian – You probably wish you had a change maker that worked….but the fact is not changed by your vulgarity – gay sex is abnormal. Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 6:47 pm
You probably wish your sex change worked, but fact is you’re still a hateful b!tch. Gay sex is completely ‘normal’, if by ‘normal’ you mean that it’s a naturally occurring event that’s widespread in NATURE. If you mean it’s against your ‘religious’ bigotry – that’s true – Hateful Bigot.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:55 pmIt’s why I work at a high school – nobody has a better BS detector when it comes to adults pretending.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:06 pm“So now the Left has high schoolers debating for them!!!
Man, you guys need to grow up!
Comment by GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR — September 4, 2007 @ 7:07 pm”
Dude…your candidate for the “Right” just got pwned by a high schooler “debating” for the Left.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:16 pmLOL!!!
So now the Left has high schoolers debating for them!!!
Man, you guys need to grow up!
Comment by GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR — September 4, 2007 @ 7:07 pm
That’s Ironic coming from you Mr. Pee!!! The high schooler debating for the GOP!!! Dum bass!
September 4th, 2007 at 7:17 pmLook at you libs defend a brainless high schooler. Take away rights? No right to take away…….they don’t have them dumbsh.. Now wipe your nose and start studying your history books. What a complete fool.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:35 pmLook at you libs defend a brainless high schooler. Take away rights? Comment by Liberalismisdead — September 4, 2007 @ 7:35 pm
We’re not defending you, brainless high schooler.
No right to take away…….they don’t have them dumbsh.. Now wipe your nose and start studying your history books. What a complete fool.
Comment by Liberalismisdead — September 4, 2007 @ 7:35 pm
Poor little dumbass doesn’t even know what rights he has! Another reflection of the republicans read less… Start studying, son, you sound retarded!
September 4th, 2007 at 7:56 pm“When the kids are united, they will never be divided”
Sham 69
It’s these kids which keep me teaching
September 4th, 2007 at 9:52 pmin order to become a p.o.w., you must surrender.
September 4th, 2007 at 10:12 pm“It’s these kids which keep me teaching”
Comment by dbadass
Another PROUD prog NEA/AFT member…….
September 4th, 2007 at 10:27 pmAnother PROUD prog NEA/AFT member…….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — September 4, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
two out of four isn’t too bad I suppose when your quessing
September 4th, 2007 at 10:34 pmI wish the Washington Post would hire that kid!
September 4th, 2007 at 10:53 pmMcCain: “I do not. I think that they impinge on the status and the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman.â€
Oh, Bull Sh*t. The status and sanctity of my heterosexual marriage is not in any way going to be impinged upon because of the fact that the couple down the street are homosexual and seek a civil union or gay marriage. And if the a*hole had been confronted with a “please explain that statement,” he wouldn’t be able to.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:01 pmLook at you libs defend a brainless high schooler. Take away rights? No right to take away…….they don’t have them dumbsh.. Now wipe your nose and start studying your history books. What a complete fool.
Comment by Liberalismisdead — September 4, 2007 @ 7:35 pm
They certainly won’t have any rights if idiots like you continue to be afraid of homosexuals and what their gay marriages or civil unions might do to your own marriage.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:03 pmWhile you can spin homosexuality as a normal life style, I doubt you know one heterosexual parent who, having their son or daughter prance out of the closet, leap for joy and start planning the commitment ceremony. Do they still love their child? Of course. Are they disappointed? You bet.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:50 pmI think Billy just needed another website to use that ‘totally sweet middle finger’ he found somewhere in the tubes of the world wide web.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:58 pmHa HA. So much for a conservative future. As the homophobic older generation dies off, the future looks brighter indeed. I say thank-you little progressive. The conservatives have already lost and they know it. They have lost the future and they are scared. I have read most of their post and they reak of fear; no plausible arguments only name calling and fear. Keep fighting the bad fight, you cannot win when the future is already against you. Ha HA!!
September 5th, 2007 at 12:30 amSince when did marriage or a civil union become a right under the US Constitution? What, are we going to cross the line between church and state and force churches to give marriage to gays? Silly, silly students that have no clue.
September 5th, 2007 at 1:36 amI take it you recently moved to the U.S., yes?
September 5th, 2007 at 4:12 amCan anyone who is opposed to civil unions help me out here….I got married outside a church, by a JOP, there was no mention of GOD in my ceremony, no prayer and no religious blessing..however, I was still required to go the the town gov. and apply for a LEGAL license so that my wife and I could have a say in the care and future of each other should one of us become incapacitated. You know simple little things like hospital visitiation rights, health insurance coverage, future of our “estate”, custody of any potential future grandchildren, etc….
I fail to see how religion should prevent me and my wife from enjoying these LEGAL rights as we were given these rights by the State when they granted us a license to get married. However, this is where those asked can help me.
1) Am I really married ? ( I mean there was no GOD involved)
2) If yes, and based on the above scenario (all 100% true) do you truly advocate witholding these same rights from your fellow Americans because of your personal/religious beliefs about homosexuality ??
September 5th, 2007 at 8:12 amComment by Sparhawk — September 5, 2007 @ 8:12 am
Good questions.
Another one for any heterosexual spouse here who opposes gay marriage: how does gay marriage affect or destroy your marriage to your significant other? Do you feel that your relationship with your husband or wife is threatened by gay marriages? How and why?
September 5th, 2007 at 9:10 amHey Billy Hill, put down that bottle of Jack Daniels, get off your sister and let’s talk about leadership.
The kid was right…McCain is a wannabe, not a leader. A leader wouldn’t have gone all kisseeface with Bush after what Bush said about him,…
September 5th, 2007 at 11:44 pmPoliticians, like standup comedians , need to learn to think on their feet and maintain sense of humor and sense of the high ground. It’s not that hard to disarm a prickly questioner if you’re not defensive. It’s not hard to disarm, and even to get a hostile crowd on your side. Really. Interesting that the Republicans like the scripted/no questions allowed “photo ops” — they have gotten very bad at the quick witty comeback. It’s called “laziness” — They are — you know — PUBLIC officials. The public goes with the job. The idea that these gas-bag politicos should be listened to in worshipful silence makes no more sense than listening to a standup comic in worshipful silence. Really. What is wrong with this frickin country? Ever watch McCain, Rudy , Bush,and others of the thin-skinned tribe try to take a VAGUELY difficult question? You can just feel the “HOW DARE YOU???” flare behind their nostrils. The hostility with which they take any question no matter how respectful. The rest of the world leaders take a lot of heat at home, and rightly so. Watch old footage of Tony Blair taking questions. It’s great. I don’t agree with him much, but he was a master of the comeback remark. McCain could have taken some lessons…………..
September 6th, 2007 at 11:11 ami’m 17, i GO to concord high school and was present when this happened, about 15 feet away actually. granted, i dont agree with senator mccain and his policies either, but i thought the student was extremely rude and disrespectful, as did most of our staff and student body. it was, quite frankly, embarrassing to have him represent our school in this way. concord high has been a popular stop for presidential candidates in the new hampshire elections…we had 7 come last school year alone, and we were fortunate enough to have senator mccain with us just 3 days into this school year. we value these candidates’ visits and it’s definitely a source of pride for us. typically when we host candidates we have a session at the end of the presentation where students can ask any questions they may have, which of course was when this all occurred. usually the students’ questions are well-thought out and respectful, i can assure you this is the first time that anything like this happened. senator mccain was very polite and respectful to the student, saying “that’s what america is all about, you have the freedom to say that” etc. after the presentation is over, students have the opportunity to meet the candidate, shake hands and address any further questions or comments. mccain actually went to find the boy and extended his hand for a handshake saying “you did a good job up there, i respect your views” and the student refused and said “i’m NOT shaking your hand.” the kid had the right to express his views, yes, but he did so in a way that was uncalled for and would be considered rude to do to any person, presidential candidate or not.
our phones have been ringing off the hook, and our principal is getting hate mail asking what kind of school he’s running, etc. it’s doubtful that we’ll get any more candidates to visit, because administration is worried that kids will see the media attention this student got, and be eager to make more provocative and inappropriate statements. i can vote for the first time in next year’s election, so the visits were really valuable to me, as well as my classmates. i think it’s really sad that such a great opportunity has to be lost because of one person’s thoughtlessness.
September 6th, 2007 at 10:41 pmSince when, in what boasts to be a free democracy, did ‘not normal’ equate to ‘must be illegal’ and ‘can properly be the object of hypocritical dog whistle electioneering by closet gay GOP congressmen and their multiply-married colleagues, (eg McCain)’? How, among the hundreds of problems we need conscientious politicians to address, does what people do with their private lives that has no effect on others rate near the top of the list?
Julia, you’re talking as if the US is a place where differing views are openly and civilly shared, attended to, and considered. That is counter to this administration’s (and its party’s and its tame media’s) play book. So extreme and out of whack are defenders of an administration that deserves the most strident of criticism that civility itself has become the last refuge of the scoundrel (patriotism is still up there though – in spades – with McCain prominent).
When an unprecentedly secretive administration with untold lies and mistakes to its name admits to just one of them *and* honestly and rationally addresses how they happened and won’t be repeated, a start will be made to a return of civil democracy. But don’t hold your breath. Meanwhile, your well-meaning words might as well just be more GOP spin (and, this being the web and the GOP being the GOP, I can’t even be sure that they aren’t just that).
The only way not to play into the hands of this mob is to call them out for all that they are. Honestly held views backed by rational argument can be civilly debated; electoral hate-mongering can only be addressed the way your class mate did – both during the session and afterwards. The issue with McCain was not the wrongness of his position; it was the dishonest adoption for electoral purposes of a position that he knows is both wrong and destructive of the civil society that you wish to revive.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:51 pmi’d like to think my post was one of the more diplomatic and unaccusing in this discussion, and thought maybe, being from concord high, i would be met with a little bit of interest because im pretty sure i was the only one in here who was there. i didnt come here to discuss the issue of gay marriage and its legality, my intent was to point out that i personally thought the student was rude, it was an embarrassment to our school, and we very well may have lost a valuable experience that we’ve taken pride in for a long time.
September 7th, 2007 at 11:33 pm