Comments on: BBC caves to executives, scraps climate change series. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:27:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Publicus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-2/#comment-4061892 Publicus Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:49:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4061892 Not their job to save the planet? Then, they can join the rest of us and senselessly DIE on it. Avoidable, except that the human race is too stupid to survive. Not their job to save the planet? Then, they can join the rest of us and senselessly DIE on it. Avoidable, except that the human race is too stupid to survive.

]]> By: Geopolitics and Beer http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-2/#comment-4060930 Geopolitics and Beer Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:48:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060930 Have any of you actually read the BBC story? It's scrapping the project because it sees a problem with Ricky Gervais blabbing on about a serious subject that he's not qualified to talk about. A documentary (which is what Brits actually WANT) on climate change is still a possibility and would not be refused by the BBC. Quite frankly I agree with BBC on this one. I'm sick of the "celebritization" of global warming. Have any of you actually read the BBC story? It’s scrapping the project because it sees a problem with Ricky Gervais blabbing on about a serious subject that he’s not qualified to talk about. A documentary (which is what Brits actually WANT) on climate change is still a possibility and would not be refused by the BBC.

Quite frankly I agree with BBC on this one. I’m sick of the “celebritization” of global warming.

]]> By: Bodhittsatva http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-2/#comment-4060929 Bodhittsatva Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:46:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060929 Only 38% of published scientists agree with the IPCC conclusions. About the same percentage of folks who approve of George Bush as President. Comment by muckdog Huh, and how many of them are left handed? Only 38% of published scientists agree with the IPCC conclusions.

About the same percentage of folks who approve of George Bush as President.

Comment by muckdog

Huh, and how many of them are left handed?

]]> By: Bodhittsatva http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060928 Bodhittsatva Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:45:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060928 Is it ANY corporation’s “job” to save the planet? I thought it was making money for shareholders? Comment by Jake D. — September 5, 2007 @ 5:54 pm WOW! imagine the return for the SHAREHOLDERS of the COMPANY who makes this their task. Is it ANY corporation’s “job” to save the planet? I thought it was making money for shareholders?

Comment by Jake D. — September 5, 2007 @ 5:54 pm

WOW! imagine the return for the SHAREHOLDERS of the COMPANY who makes this their task.

]]> By: Bernard Quatermass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060921 Bernard Quatermass Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:36:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060921 "ridiculous hyperbole used to frighten them" aka those pesky "facts" “ridiculous hyperbole used to frighten them”

aka those pesky “facts”

]]> By: Toliver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060768 Toliver Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:31:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060768 This is why corporations should have a minimum amount of political power and must be regulated by the state. Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper --------------------- What an authoritarian you are Colonel. One reason people are being turned off to the possible consequences to AGW is the ridiculous hyperbole used to frighten them that have been exhibited on this very sh-tty thread. This is why corporations should have a minimum amount of political power and must be regulated by the state.

Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper

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What an authoritarian you are Colonel.

One reason people are being turned off to the possible consequences to AGW is the ridiculous hyperbole used to frighten them that have been exhibited on this very sh-tty thread.

]]> By: jotro http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060664 jotro Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:25:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060664 Tchau Tchau

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060564 toasterhead Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:38:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060564 <i>Only 38% of published scientists agree with the IPCC conclusions. About the same percentage of folks who approve of George Bush as President. Comment by muckdog — September 5, 2007 @ 10:44 pm</i> HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! AH ha ha ha ha ha! See what I'm talking about? That British humour - it's just so subtle. I totally imagined your post as read by Terry Jones dressed up as an old lady and it was HILARIOUS! It was all "onny fir'y eiyt puh-cen' of publisht sointists agree wif da OI PEE SEE SSE conclusions" Very droll. Very droll. Only 38% of published scientists agree with the IPCC conclusions.

About the same percentage of folks who approve of George Bush as President.

Comment by muckdog — September 5, 2007 @ 10:44 pm

HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! AH ha ha ha ha ha! See what I’m talking about? That British humour – it’s just so subtle. I totally imagined your post as read by Terry Jones dressed up as an old lady and it was HILARIOUS! It was all “onny fir’y eiyt puh-cen’ of publisht sointists agree wif da OI PEE SEE SSE conclusions”

Very droll. Very droll.

]]> By: muckdog http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060459 muckdog Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:44:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060459 Since man-made global warming is a fraud, this makes complete sense. Only 38% of published scientists agree with the IPCC conclusions. About the same percentage of folks who approve of George Bush as President. Since man-made global warming is a fraud, this makes complete sense.

Only 38% of published scientists agree with the IPCC conclusions.

About the same percentage of folks who approve of George Bush as President.

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060419 toasterhead Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:23:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060419 Is this the same BBC that aired the mockumentary "The Great Global Warming Swindle?" Ha! That was a funny show. I love that dry British humor! Oh, sorry - humour. Is this the same BBC that aired the mockumentary “The Great Global Warming Swindle?” Ha! That was a funny show. I love that dry British humor!

Oh, sorry – humour.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060398 MapleStreet Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:03:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060398 "“not the corporation’s job to save the planet.” So judging by negative programs, their job is to destroy the planet ? Like Descarte's wager - neutrality is impossible. ““not the corporation’s job to save the planet.”

So judging by negative programs, their job is to destroy the planet ?

Like Descarte’s wager – neutrality is impossible.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060353 katy Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:01:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060353 <em>"...I’m against global warming..."</em> funny... just, too cute... ... “…I’m against global warming…”

funny… just, too cute…
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]]> By: Sharon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060345 Sharon Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:46:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060345 No planet, no life, no share holder's..Even dumbass bird's know enough not to crap in the own nest forever with out cleaning it up...Corporations are owned and operated by human's, if those human's continue bad practices for profit only soon there will be no one left......War's and greed will create more of the same, only sane thinking can fix this clusterf***.... No planet, no life, no share holder’s..Even dumbass bird’s know enough not to crap in the own nest forever with out cleaning it up…Corporations are owned and operated by human’s, if those human’s continue bad practices for profit only soon there will be no one left……War’s and greed will create more of the same, only sane thinking can fix this clusterf***….

]]> By: pbg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060343 pbg Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:42:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060343 The BBC is a state-owned corporation: so 'shareholder value' is an interesting concept. And according to its charter, it's to be "free from both political and commercial influence and answers only to its viewers and listeners". Sounds to me like the charter isn't exactly being upheld. The BBC is a state-owned corporation: so ’shareholder value’ is an interesting concept.
And according to its charter, it’s to be “free from both political and commercial influence and answers only to its viewers and listeners”.

Sounds to me like the charter isn’t exactly being upheld.

]]> By: Anonymous Ryan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060335 Anonymous Ryan Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:30:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060335 Let's be fair, is there anyone out there who doesn't know about global warming or at least doesn't have a position. Yeah I'm against global warming but how much more can I take? It's everywhere. It's like the Paris Hilton of activist movements. Let’s be fair, is there anyone out there who doesn’t know about global warming or at least doesn’t have a position.

Yeah I’m against global warming but how much more can I take? It’s everywhere. It’s like the Paris Hilton of activist movements.

]]> By: Andrew Crawford http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060328 Andrew Crawford Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:23:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060328 How ill-informed so many of you are. The BBC is not setting out to make money for its shareholders; it doesn't have any and is not a profit-making entity. There was a lot of criticism about the BBC showing the "Live Earth" concert because there was a LOT of one-sided politics and oversimplistic science which came along with it. The BBC has a legal obligation to be politically impartial. That's why they have decided not to go ahead with this - it's simply too political. How ill-informed so many of you are. The BBC is not setting out to make money for its shareholders; it doesn’t have any and is not a profit-making entity. There was a lot of criticism about the BBC showing the “Live Earth” concert because there was a LOT of one-sided politics and oversimplistic science which came along with it. The BBC has a legal obligation to be politically impartial. That’s why they have decided not to go ahead with this – it’s simply too political.

]]> By: Brian Gordon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060309 Brian Gordon Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:09:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060309 <blockquote>Is it ANY corporation’s “job” to save the planet? I thought it was making money for shareholders?</blockquote> Agreed. And I hope the neocons keep reminding us of this fact. That will help enough people recognize that the rules around corporations must change: No corporation should be able to own another corporation; corporations are not equivalent to people; natural monopolies such as cable should be government-owned; maximum executive compensation tied to the minimum employee wage, etc, etc.

Is it ANY corporation’s “job” to save the planet? I thought it was making money for shareholders?

Agreed. And I hope the neocons keep reminding us of this fact. That will help enough people recognize that the rules around corporations must change: No corporation should be able to own another corporation; corporations are not equivalent to people; natural monopolies such as cable should be government-owned; maximum executive compensation tied to the minimum employee wage, etc, etc.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060308 The Republic of Stupidity Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:08:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060308 Reasonable stewardship is both intelligent pragmatic business practice as well a is a moral obligation Comment by dbadass — September 5, 2007 @ 7:46 pm Well, ya'd think so, woodenya? I've lived near not one, but TWO Superfund clena-up sites in this lifetime. It was infuriating to see what some people don't mind doing to their neighbors for an extra buck. Reasonable stewardship is both intelligent pragmatic business practice as well a is a moral obligation

Comment by dbadass — September 5, 2007 @ 7:46 pm

Well, ya’d think so, woodenya? I’ve lived near not one, but TWO Superfund clena-up sites in this lifetime. It was infuriating to see what some people don’t mind doing to their neighbors for an extra buck.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060288 dbadass Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:46:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060288 It doesn't matter if climate change is or is not an issue, whether the water is palatable or not, the soil poisoned or not, the fisheries depleted or not, and so it goes? As the parent of two very special little girls, I will trust that much of the cavalier attitudes expressed here are nothing more than the silly bravado so often spewed. Reasonable stewardship is both intelligent pragmatic business practice as well a is a moral obligation It doesn’t matter if climate change is or is not an issue, whether the water is palatable or not, the soil poisoned or not, the fisheries depleted or not, and so it goes? As the parent of two very special little girls, I will trust that much of the cavalier attitudes expressed here are nothing more than the silly bravado so often spewed. Reasonable stewardship is both intelligent pragmatic business practice as well a is a moral obligation

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4060281 gummitch Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:36:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bbc-caves-to-executives-scraps-climate-change-series/#comment-4060281 <em>Is it ANY corporation’s “job” to save the planet? I thought it was making money for shareholders? Comment by Jake D. I can’t believe I am saying this, but Jake is right. I wish there were more morals associated with corporations, but there are basically none, except for creating a return to their shareholders - even if it means the death of our planet. Comment by Tom — September 5, 2007 @ 6:13 pm</em> No, a responsible corporation understands that long-term goals are as critical as short-term returns. A corporation that thinks only in terms of this quarter's profits will not long stay in business. The corporation has to invest in infrastructure, research, etc. in order to make long-term successes. The classic example was Henry Ford, who realized he'd sell far more cars and make a lot more money if he paid his employees well enough for them to afford to buy one of the cars. If modern corporations don't do what they can to ensure the long-term health and viability of customers and potential customers, they're screwed. Is it ANY corporation’s “job” to save the planet? I thought it was making money for shareholders?

Comment by Jake D.

I can’t believe I am saying this, but Jake is right. I wish there were more morals associated with corporations, but there are basically none, except for creating a return to their shareholders – even if it means the death of our planet.

Comment by Tom — September 5, 2007 @ 6:13 pm

No, a responsible corporation understands that long-term goals are as critical as short-term returns. A corporation that thinks only in terms of this quarter’s profits will not long stay in business. The corporation has to invest in infrastructure, research, etc. in order to make long-term successes. The classic example was Henry Ford, who realized he’d sell far more cars and make a lot more money if he paid his employees well enough for them to afford to buy one of the cars. If modern corporations don’t do what they can to ensure the long-term health and viability of customers and potential customers, they’re screwed.

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