Bush ‘Still Believed Saddam Possessed WMD’ In April 2006
Bush ‘Still Believed Saddam Possessed WMD’ In April 2006
In Oct. 2004, President Bush finally admitted that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction: “Iraq did not have the weapons that our intelligence believed were there.”
Yet according to former White House chief of staff Andy Card, this statement was just rhetoric. In his new book on Bush, Robert Draper writes that the President continued to privately insist through April 2006 that Saddam had possessed weapons of mass destruction:
Bush, for his part, was not disposed to second-guessing. Througout 2006, he read historical texts relating to Lincoln, Churchill, and Truman — three wartime leaders, the latter two of whom left office to something less than public acclaim. History would acquit him, too. Bush was confident of that, and of something else as well. Though it was not the sort of thing one could say publicly anymore, the president still believed that Saddam had possessed weapons of mass destruction. He repeated this conviction to Andy Card all the way up until Card’s departure in April 2006, almost exactly three years after the Coalition had begun its fruitless search for WMDs. [p. 388]
Bush’s belief is nothing more than a delusion. Between the U.S. invasion and April 2006, numerous government inspectors concluded, beyond a doubt, that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction. Evidently, none of these were conclusive enough to convince the President that he was wrong:
Despite evidence of Saddam’s continued ambition to acquire nuclear weapons, to date we have not uncovered evidence that Iraq undertook significant post-1998 steps to actually build nuclear weapons or produce fissile material. [Iraq Survey Group Interim Progress Report, 10/2/03]
“My summary view, based on what I’ve seen, is we’re very unlikely to find large stockpiles of weapons. … I don’t think they exist.” [Former U.N. inspector David Kay, 1/26/04]
“The ISG has not found evidence that Saddam possessed WMD stocks in 2003.” [Iraq Survey Group Report, 10/7/04]
As Albert Einstein once quipped, “If the facts don’t fit the theory, change the facts.”
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idiot.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:40 pmstill an idiot…bush.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:40 pmBush lied, people died.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:42 pmWow, Bush is as dumb as exley.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:42 pm.
Is Bush going to make money after he leaves office by standing in stockades so people can toss tomatoes at him for $5.00 a shot?
Because I can’t see anyone ponying up cash to listen to this nitwit blabber on.
-GSD
September 5th, 2007 at 2:42 pmf*cking moron.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:42 pmTalk about slow learner.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:43 pmOh, Bushie had no idea…YEAH RIGHT!
September 5th, 2007 at 2:43 pmhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/090507A.shtml
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September 5th, 2007 at 2:46 pmSee the thing is, when the facts change, making a decision to change course isn’t a bad thing.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:46 pmBush makes Einstein’s joke gospel to the GOP. GOP is joke of the world if it weren’t so deadly.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmPeople like to look back and say “if only Castro had made the majors with the Yankees, things would have been so different…” It’s the same with bush, If only he had accidently struck oil, just once, things could have been so different…
September 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmBush believed because his ego demanded it.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:49 pmOr maybe the bourbon/coke fog was overpowering.
Yes, well, George believes he’s the Decider, too…
September 5th, 2007 at 2:50 pmHe also believes in the Easter Bunny. He is stupid! Everyone knows that now. Not only is he stupid, but his information is filtered then filtered again. He chooses to receive advice and speak only to his trusted advisors because he can’t stand to be criticized.
Bush is truly the Worst President Ever
September 5th, 2007 at 2:51 pmSlow learner.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:51 pm#10 - did you drive the camels? no? stfu.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:51 pmHe did. He moved the WMDs to Syria. Dicks.
Comment by firehead — September 5, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
Funny how all those WMD’s somehow managed to slip across a few hundred miles of open desert, with recon planes overhead, and satellites across the heavens to make it into Syria, a regime not all that friendly to Saddam without anyone noticing.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:51 pm#
#10 - did you drive the camels? no? stfu.
Comment by Fan_of_Man — September 5, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
No, but he’d like to…if you catch my drift.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:52 pmSee #10 above for another example of a moron. How do these people tie their shoes in the morning?
September 5th, 2007 at 2:52 pm#18 - didnt you know saddam also had a matter transporter just like syria?
September 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pmDo we need more proof that he is bat-crap crazy and needs to be removed from office? Not me!
September 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pmI agree there are no STOCKPILES . . .
September 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pm#20 - i think they have vhs tapes that show them how to… its amazing they know how to turn it on.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:54 pmdoesnt that make his joke about “those WMDs gotta be here somewhere!” even ***MORE*** DISGUSTING?!?!?!?!?!
September 5th, 2007 at 2:54 pmi mean, if he really beleived it, its even MORE appalling that he would make jokes about it!
September 5th, 2007 at 2:55 pmIt’s the same with bush, If only he had accidently struck oil, just once, things could have been so different…
Comment by Bobwurst — September 5, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
…Actually, the blame should be firmly placed in the laps of SCOTUS. “Interpreters” of the US Constititution should know better!
September 5th, 2007 at 2:55 pmThis is really comforting. The president is totally delusional with his inability to grasp the fact based world. Now, we also know that he will willingly lie to the public rather than have people know his delusions.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:57 pmWar is taking its toll on President.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:57 pmhttp://www.charlotte.com/nation/story/263361.html
Stick a fork in that piece of meat….its done.
September 5th, 2007 at 2:58 pmOur insane Little Napoleon says that we can have a limited partial withdrawal of our occupying forces from the North Pole after the polar region has been secured from insurgent bears, l.e., when Hell freezes over…
September 5th, 2007 at 2:58 pmis there a jake D namejacker out there? you might want to check your screen name if you were on that other thread that turned into all jake all the time. just sayin…
September 5th, 2007 at 2:59 pmDemoncrat President Woodrow Wilson had sex with Edith Bolling Galt before they were married. BEFORE THEY WERE MARRIED!!!
September 5th, 2007 at 3:00 pmThe sad fact for America is that we are the recipients of this delusional leadership but we are unable or unwilling to make the kind of change necessary to protect ourselves, and mainly our fighting forces in Iraq. Why didn’t we learn from Vietnam? We are being led down the same path of self destruction.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:00 pmWar is taking its toll on President….
September 5th, 2007 at 3:00 pmhttp://www.charlotte.com/nation/story/263361.html
I agree there are no STOCKPILES . . .
Comment by Jake D. — September 5, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
Ah, the LIE OF OMISSION, particularly popular with sleazy GOP voting attorneys. F*ckers like you give all lawyers a bad name, and you should have been disbarred just on the principle of it, you piece of filth.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:00 pmahhh, I see that fireDICKhead is back. You and Bush are posterchildren for the caption “stupid is as stupid does”.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:00 pmhe also believes that he has protected us from the mole men by drilling all those dry wells in texas.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:00 pmSee, Bush should have anticipated that Saddam would move all of his WMD to a neighboring country just at the moment when a hated enemy was amassing on his border for a well-ppublicized invasion.
We didn’t realize that Saddam’s greatest goal in life was not power — not survival — not victory… obviously, Saddam was willing to give up all of those lesser goals if it meant that he could EMBARRASS GEORGE W. BUSH by hiding his WMD. It was Saddam’s plan all along to lure Bush into a costly invasion on the prtetext of WMD and then when the Americans arrived and deposed him and put him in prison, Saddam could still have the LAST LAUGH!
Ha ha! Fooled ya, George! Nyah nyah!
September 5th, 2007 at 3:01 pmBush would do better reading historical texts regarding LBJ and Nixon where he would discover that invading countries under false pretenses is never a winning proposition.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:01 pmFor real? And to think that people actually wouldn’t let you call him an idiot a few years back. What a batsh!t crazy fascist idiocracy this turned into this century, eh?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:01 pmmr p has sex with his mother’s corpse. HIS MOTHER’S CORPSE!
September 5th, 2007 at 3:02 pmA delusion to cover his guilty conscience? Thousands dead because he made a mistake. This man needs some serious “rest”– in a padded cell. Alone with his baby jesus, rocking back and forth.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:02 pmfireDICKhead; you forgot to include Saddam’s photon torpedoes and phasers tucked away in Shangri-La too.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pm“I’ve got God’s shoulder to cry on. And I cry a lot. I do a lot of crying in this job. I’ll bet I’ve shed more tears than you can count, as president. I’ll shed some tomorrow.”
President Bush
September 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pmhe also believes that he has protected us from the mole men by drilling all those dry wells in texas.
Comment by Bobwurst — September 5, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Now, that is hysterical…back hurting from laughing!
September 5th, 2007 at 3:05 pmThis man needs some serious “restâ€â€“ in a padded cell. Alone with his baby jesus, rocking back and forth.
Comment by Menehune
he won’t have time for that, he’s gonna be speechifyin, and tank thinkin, and spreading democracy and peanut butter on his toast in the mornin.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:05 pmProgressives who deny that Hussein HAD WMD before the war are helping Islamofascists, Sunni insurgents, and the defeatist, anti-war “movement” in the States. If progressives continue to deny the irrefutable truth that Hussein had WMD, they’re degradingly taking away one of the main and still true justifications for the war. This is impermissible, especially since there exists much evidence that Hussein had WMD in the run-up to the war; it’s only progressives and other anti-war traitors who’ve been denying this. People with more credibility than mentally ill progs swear that Hussein moved them to Syria. Georges Sada–former Hussein general–has a book out attesting to this fact. Further, when the group that looked for WMD wrote its report, it didn’t say that Hussein didn’t have the capability for it; it concluded that Hussein was in the ACT OF RESTARTING his WMD. This means Bush should be thanked for invading Iraq because if Bush didn’t, Hussein would’ve been able to develop WMD by now.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:05 pmThat’s so hilarious, funny, gutbustin’ outrageous, bobwuss you are soooo oooOOOoooOOO hysterical
September 5th, 2007 at 3:07 pmNow, that is hysterical…back hurting from laughing!
No, thats from spooning too long with your man.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:07 pmHans Blix has more sense in his little toe than Bush has in his entire administration.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:08 pm“I’ve got God’s shoulder to cry on. And I cry a lot. I do a lot of crying in this job. I’ll bet I’ve shed more tears than you can count, as president. I’ll shed some tomorrow.”
President Bush on war
September 5th, 2007 at 3:08 pmIn Australia, the president promises to “hang in there” no matter what Congress says.
There. A traitor if ever there was one. And one that likes to throw tantrums.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:09 pmComment by OlbermannactuallyhasashowonTV? — September 5, 2007 @ 3:05 pm
Say one opts to accomodate you in your dire recurrent delusional episodes, why didn’t we LEAVE after his government went down…No..Why are we still there now after SADDAM’s DEATH?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:09 pmDespite evidence of Saddam’s continued ambition to acquire nuclear weapons
Yes, but of course our sensitive multicultural libs are ready to give the benefit of a doubt to dictator Saddam that he would have used such weapons for research.
Liberals: embracing terrorists since 1965.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pm#45 - WTF??? Circular logic demans a circular firing squad.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pm“Progressives who deny that Hussein HAD WMD before the war are helping Islamofascists, Sunni insurgents, and the defeatist, anti-war “movement†in the States. ”
How exactly? See #2 below.
“If progressives continue to deny the irrefutable truth that Hussein had WMD, they’re degradingly taking away one of the main and still true justifications for the war.”
There were NO WMD found. Point to a single piece of evidence of any Nukes found in any province of Iraq?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:11 pm#45
Just for the sake of arugment, mind you, not that I’m expecting a rational answer or anything because, heaven forbid you wrote anything that an intelligent adult would find interesting, thought provoking, or even readable
September 5th, 2007 at 3:11 pmif Saddam had WMD, why would he be restarting his WMD?
Clinton was a good President.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:11 pmWho said he stopped believing in 2006? That is when Andy Card left and Bush told him he STILL believed in WMDs. He never changes his mind. He still believes Saddam had WMDs even now. Just like he believes he’s not the WORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:11 pmWhen the preznit said there is a ‘clear and present danger of a nuke attack on America’ i was ready for us to lob a nuke…not 140k troops into iraq. That PROVED to me he KNEW there were NO nukes.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:12 pmThere were NO WMD found. Point to a single piece of evidence of any Nukes found in any province of Iraq?
Nukes arent the only sort of WMD, you supercilious cramdingle.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:12 pmWORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
You must have been born the day after Carter left office. Dolt.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:14 pmWhat WMD was found at all?
They didnt say a bilogical or chemical cloud over an american city it was always a mushriim cloud you clown - start speaking to the facts.
WHAT WMD FOUND AT ALL EVER IN IRAQ?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:14 pmIn the book Fiasco we learn that the bombing raids in 1998 that were derided as Wag the Dog attacks actually “decapitated” the Iraqi weapons program. David Kay himself noted that he dismissed those bombing raids as a stunt, then learned in interviews with Iraqi scientists that those raids not only destroyed the facilities they had built, but killed the programs. The scientists realized that they would never be able to do their work while Saddam was in power because we would always be able to knock out the plants. They were dispirited and work on the programs came to a complete halt.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:14 pmThere were NO WMD found. Point to a single piece of evidence of any Nukes found in any province of Iraq?
Nukes arent the only sort of WMD, you supercilious cramdingle
September 5th, 2007 at 3:14 pm————————————————————
Funny:)
Nukes arent the only sort of WMD, you supercilious cramdingle.
Comment by Chaldovian Memtaragon
So? what WMD did Saddam have, you scarfulous beetlefart?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pmYea, Georges Sada is just another Sadam loyalist exposing his secrets, or a long time enemy of Sadam and a tool for the Admin. You decide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Sada
September 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pmfirehead sez:
Prove it. Provide just one shred of reliable evidence to support that ridiculous claim.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pmPOINT TO ANY WMD FOUND YOU TARDS! C’Mon i;’m waiting?
I’ll give you a hint…there were russian and american chemical munitions found……but no nukes or iraqi made WMD…can u answer now? There…I gave you an answer.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWHAT WMD FOUND AT ALL EVER IN IRAQ?
Do your own research ya hornpopper. Its there to find quite easily, even for dimwittish goblinites such as you.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWait, hw do we know that he was *joking* in that home movie at the W.H. Press dinner? Isn’ t that an awfully big assumption?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pmLiberal terrorists like Timothy McVeigh, and guy who bombed the Atlanta Olympics, and the ones who murdered doctors outside women’s clinics, and the wackos from Waco, and the guy who took his family up on Ruby Ridge so he could shoot it out with the Feds? Oh wait, those all belong to the Right.
Try again, dillweed.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
You must have been born the day after Carter left office. Dolt
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:)
September 5th, 2007 at 3:16 pmYou have no case. No imminent threat of wmd use against the states was ever proven. Even after the country was conquered bush couldnt properly MANUFACTURE evidence. Sheesh, a boat load of dumbasses.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:16 pmWHAT WMD FOUND AT ALL EVER IN IRAQ?
Comment by bobh — September 5, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
I think they did find a handful of old artillery shells, that the UN had already tagged, and the chemicals were degraded past useless. The reason that Bush, and his sycophants need to believe that the WMD’s existed, is to justify the war. They don’t care what the facts are or aren’t. They just want Bush to be right.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:16 pmOlberman, etc… it’s interesting you find Iraqi generals so trustworthy
September 5th, 2007 at 3:17 pmI mean bush couldnt even get a single semi tractor trailer dolled up to LOOK liek thos epaintings he had his secretary of state pony up at the un. Coudl he?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:17 pmWORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
You must have been born the day after Carter left office. Dolt.
Comment by Chaldovian Memtaragon
What exactly did he do to earn the title worst president ever? carter was a real christian, a man of honor and his word. Carter also sereved in the nave as a submarine captain, I can see why idiots like you would think he was bad president. coward.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:18 pmsome dolt sez:
OK…I’m going to stop you RIGHT THERE and call bullshit. Provide proof of these spurious claims, or STFU.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:18 pmPoints to Krazny…yay someone found wmd but it was decades past usefulness. Sheesh we were in great danger eh?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:18 pmDo your own research ya hornpopper. Its there to find quite easily, even for dimwittish goblinites such as you.
Comment by Chaldovian Memtaragon — September 5, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
Ah, yes, the classic retort in defense of the intellectually bankrupt argument. Blame the other side.
If it were me, and someone challenged me to prove a claim I had made, and I knew where I could find such proof, I would be only too eager to wave it in the face of the challenger.
But that’s me.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pmIt’s simple. People beliefs are based on culture and family traditions. New information that voids those beliefs are discounted. Only children are open minded to change their perceptions. What grown up will admit that the virgin birth is a myth if the individual grew up believing in one of the most important Christian tenets?
http://www.firedoglake.com/ 2007/ 09/ 04/ science-finally-catches-up-to-the-gop/
September 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pmWHAT WMD FOUND AT ALL EVER IN IRAQ?
Do your own research ya hornpopper. Its there to find quite easily, even for dimwittish goblinites such as you.
Comment by Chaldovian Memtaragon
It’s your point, it’s your research. you are lazy enough to be a repubican, you’re stupid enough to be a republican, and you’re cowardly enough to be a republican. you must be a republican.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pmStill waiting, why dont you doctor up some proof of WMD being found repuglicanites? Youd be doing more work than bush has done in 8 years.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:20 pmShruby is his own bobble head doll.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:20 pmWishful thinking, aka delusion, is Bush’s forte.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:20 pmAnd the repugs FFFFFAAAAAaaaaaddddddeeeee……..
September 5th, 2007 at 3:21 pmThe sorry fact is that he “knew” Saddam possessed WMD because his own father sold them to him. He didn’t realize that the “final dupe” would be on him. He was so cock-sure that they’d be found since he knew about their previous sale; what he didn’t realize was that Saddam was much smarter than he was and got one final screwjob in on Dubya.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:22 pmOh yeah…Sorry Laura, your husband really is an idiot.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:22 pmI think the point that there was no way he could have smuggled anything out of the country without the US knowing, I mean c’mon were should have had the border region sewn up tighter then and ant’s ass, couple with absolutely no findings of even a semi-workable plant to manufacture them should have been the first clue.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:22 pmDrunk AWOL liar frat boy with silver spoon compared to Honest Forthright hardworking Jimmie Carter….let me think that over
September 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pmthats an interesting twist on ‘NO WMD FOUND JUSTIFICATION FOR WAR A TOTAL SHAM AND LIE’.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pmChaldovian Memtaragon sez:
Granted, although WMDs of the nuclear type were the ones most pushed by this administration…
But that’s OK….we can work with the looser definition of WMD as well. Let’s amend the original question:
We look forward to your reply (don’t forget the links).
September 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pmDidn’t they find some at the UN last week?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:24 pmBurro: Some intelligent entrepreneur will fashion a bobble head doll for the back of people’s cars as part of Dumbya’s legacy. Instead of it bobbing and giving the peace sign as Nixon’s doll did, Bush’s bobblehead doll will be giving the middle finger! Maybe it will be a talking doll so when you touch it’s middle finger it will sneer “screw’d ya’, didn’t I?”.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:24 pmReally! wow and I always thought this guy was a genius! I mean according the the GOPERS he knows exactly what he is doing and everything is going fine, never mind that guy behind the curtain, pay no attention to all our soldiers lying dead and wounded. It’s just a figment of our imagination. If we were on the same stuff that Jr. was on, we could all live in LALA land too!
September 5th, 2007 at 3:24 pmAnd another thing we know for sure he doesn’t have any now and it will be impossible for him to produce any in the future.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:25 pmSaddam told the inspectors that he’d destroyed everything he bought from Bush #41 - and, as it turns out, he did! A Huge HAHAHA on the World-class Chimp.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:25 pmBush believes….who cares.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:25 pmShrub: A legend in his own mind.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:25 pmBush based his highly illegal occupation of a sovereign nation upon the premise that he knew that his daddy did a boo-boo and, in fact, sold Saddam these weapons when he was Presidunce.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:26 pmDo your own research ya hornpopper. Its there to find quite easily, even for dimwittish goblinites such as you.
Comment by Chaldovian Memtaragon — September 5, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
When making as assertion, such as “the irrefutable truth that Hussien had WMD” as an example, it is upon the protagonist to produce the evidence in the form of plausible, verifiable sources.
Or, failing that, you can return your head to its usual place - up your a**.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:26 pmComment by Prabhata — September 5, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
…And also that the early fathers of modern Christianity took the sacred knowledge passed to them in its pure form by the earlier practitioners like the GNOSTICS and etc, kept it for themselves and allowed a watered-down version trickle to the populace…other religions acted the same by the way…but we won’t start a firestorm….lets reserve that for another day/forum..We would not want to detract from hurling as much blame about the Iraq war as we can on the doorstep the 43rd 1600-Penn.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:27 pm#
Bush based his highly illegal occupation of a sovereign nation upon the premise that he knew that his daddy did a boo-boo and, in fact, sold Saddam these weapons when he was Presidunce.
Comment by veritas — September 5, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
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Cheney played along for the contracts.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:29 pmBush based his highly illegal occupation of a sovereign nation upon the premise that he knew that his daddy did a boo-boo and, in fact, sold Saddam these weapons when he was Presidunce.
Comment by veritas — September 5, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
#
Cheney played along for the contracts.
Comment by jb
Trolls played along because they like to imagine themselves in codpieces.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:31 pmTrolls played along because they like to imagine themselves in codpieces.
Comment by Bobwurst
But really, who doesn’t?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:33 pmTrolls played along because they like to imagine themselves in codpieces.
Comment by Bobwurst — September 5, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
Traitors all.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:33 pmAnd he probably still thinks Peter Pan and Tinkerbell live in the magical Kingdom:
http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com
September 5th, 2007 at 3:34 pmCard is saying that Bush continued repeating this assertion up to the point of Card’s departure in April ‘06 - Bush probably still believes it to this day.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:34 pmThe invasion of Iraq has turned out to be such a travesty that Bush needs to delude himself into believing that not doing so really would have been a major security risk for the region and the world, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Such denial is a normal psychological defense mechanism. Psychologically, denial serves to keep us from feeling completely overwhelmed by intense feelings of anxiety, guilt, shame, fear, etc.
Given the degree of egregiousness and failure invading Iraq has turned out to be, it is not surprising that Bush would remain in denial regarding the reality about the initial reasons for the invasion. Otherwise, he may not be able to live with himself. But, as we know, Bush has never had much trouble sleeping despite it all.
Unfortunately, as long as we remain in denial, we will continue to justify our mistakes, and believe our justifications. We will be unable to learn and grow; and we are likely to continue perpetuating these mistakes and adding to them.
Denial may protect one psychologically, but it can play hell on those caught in its path. Often, it takes people who are closest to the person in denial to conduct an “intervention” to break through the person’s denial. But Bush has no one to fulfill that need, so the denial remains.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:34 pm#94 - “We would not want to detract from hurling as much blame about the Iraq war as we can on the doorstep the 43rd 1600-Penn.” Comment by James Saville Row — September 5, 2007 @ 3:27 pm
When one “claims” to be a member of the “party of personal responsibility”, it would be wrong to not assign responsibility as they “claim” to adhere.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:35 pmTrolls played along because they like to imagine themselves in codpieces.
Comment by Bobwurst — September 5, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
Like that would help them perform in the stall in the men’s room.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:35 pmThe WMD were destroyed during the first Gulf War. In fact, they were secretly destroyed by the U.S. military. At the giant weapons depot known as Khamisiyah inside Iraq, at the end of Gulf War I, special ops went into Iraq and identified and destroyed missiles with sarin gas warheads. That was admitted in a CIA White Paper that came out in 1997 entitled “Khamisiyah: A Historical Perspective On Related Intelligence.”
The CIA admitted to “some” identification and destruction of WMD at the close of Gulf War I by the U.S. military. But it didn’t admit to the extent, which was probably considerable. And the documents are still classified and haven’t even been seen by the U.S. Congress.
The reason the government won’t admit the wide extent to which WMD were destroyed by special ops at the end of Gulf War I involves the phenomenon known as “gulf war syndrome”. Returning vets started falling ill and dying. The reason is that we gassed our own people. The U.S. military released sarin gas into the environment of southern Iraq by destroying Saddam’s remaining WMD but did not want to admit to it or to its extent, because it would have opened up the U.S. government to the potential loss of billions in health care treatment for all the GIs who had been deployed near those WMD stockpiles and who were coming down with strange illnesses.
And even though our military and the CIA know how much of that WMD was destroyed, it was still hidden from the American public because the no-longer-existant WMD gave Bush and company a good excuse to start a war.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:36 pmPopular joke in Canada right before we invaded Iraq:
“Why does George Bush think that there are WMDs in Iraq?”
September 5th, 2007 at 3:36 pm“Because his father still has the receipts.”
Bush used the WMD claims so he could sneak Jeff Gannon — his personal gay prostitute — into The White House. It’s true! Look it up! The evidence is irrefutable.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:37 pmBush knows Saddam had no WMD but dosent want to admit to himself hes a mass murderer - self denial
September 5th, 2007 at 3:38 pm105 ha ha I liked that one
September 5th, 2007 at 3:38 pmWORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
You must have been born the day after Carter left office. Dolt.
Comment by Chaldovian Memtaragon
September 5th, 2007 at 3:39 pmJesus told Bush that Sadam had WMD. How in the world could Bush deny Jesus?
Would Jesus lie? Or was it KKKarl under Bush’s bed whispering in his ear?
The serious point is, Bush believes that Jesus told him to invade Iraq, that is undisputed amongst sentient beings. Given that belief, how could Bush be expected to change course?
“Under the Banner of Heaven” by Jon Krakauer is a good book about freaks who believe God told them to do something and so, to not do that would be to deny God.
In that case it was to kill a sister in law and her year old baby. In Bush’s case the results of his delusion are much worse and much more evil.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:39 pm#105: Nice! We had Bush Sr. selling weapons to Saddam and Reagan selling weapons to Iran. Way to go, Republicans! You f**ked it all.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:40 pmI hope his Uncle Satan is warming the oven for him.
Another bike wreck or pretzle episode and he’ll be on his way for a permanent visit.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:40 pmThis reminds me of Reagan on Iran-Contra: he didn’t believe we traded arms to the enemy and used the proceeds to fund an illegal war. “But the facts say otherwise”.
Woe to us in the reality-based community when people like Bush and Reagan run the country.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:41 pmArrest This War Criminal George W. Bush immediately and try him at the International Criminal Court.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:41 pmI thought everybody knew this one…..the WMD are west of Tikrit - to the north, south and east somewhat. What? ANOTHER LIE? Do tell….. Or was it “honestly used” incorrect intel? What is the Rethuglican talking point today?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:41 pmWORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
You must have been born the day after Carter left office. Dolt.
Comment by Chaldovian Memtaragon
So your point is that the drunk fratboy is only the 2nd WORST PRESIDENT EVER? You’re as retarded as your hero. F##k off.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:42 pm… You must have been born after Carter…
I don’t think Bush is going to be winning the Nobel Peace Prize anytime soon. It may have escaped your notice that Egypt and Israel are not at war…
September 5th, 2007 at 3:45 pmComment by Snidely Whiplash — September 5, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
And now we’re arming both sides of a civil war in Iraq! That’ll NEVER come back to haunt us now will it?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:45 pmWORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
You must have been born the day after Carter left office. Dolt.
Comment by Chaldovian Memtaragon
Jimmy Carter has as much sense in his little pinky than Bushie had in his non-resident disembodied _brain_.
It is not necessary to further help you yank your rusted sword out of the muck you threw it with your baseless attack on Jimmy Carter, Engelbert Pendragon.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:47 pmAs the saying goes in Brooklyn, oy.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:48 pmAndy Card is a credible source? On anything? This from the guy who coined the phrase, “From a marketing point of view you don’t introduce new products in August.”
The whole crazy notion that Bush and Company are this stupid and incompetent is partly what keeps us all in this mess and gets these guys off the hook, time and time again.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:48 pmRead the UNSCOM reports - the vast majority of Saddam’s bio and chemical weapons stockpiles were destroyed in Gulf War 1. There was a portion unaccounted for. A significant portion of THAT was destroyed in the presence of UN inspectors.
Most of what was left (extrapolated by using the most generous production estimates) would have degraded to the point of uselessness by 2002.
Any remaining production facilities were destroyed by Clinton in ‘98.
British and US were overflying this country 24×7. The major roads and military resources were under scrutiny by satellite 24×7. His own son-in-law told DoD interrogators that the weapons programs were shut down - everything the UN inspectors found, and subsequent inspectors after the invasion, confirmed that.
The invasion had nothing to do with weapons - anyone who still believes that is willfully delusional. Bush gave the ok for the UN to go in in late 2002 explicitly because he believed there were no weapons, but wanted to be sure the coast was clear for the invasion, knowing that 10’s of 1000’s of gassed or bio-contaminated soldiers would have spelled immediate doom for this administration.
Blix and Co certified the coast was clear. Bush invaded.
After killing tens of thousands of civilians, torturing their people, creating and sustaining massive corruption, wiping out their infrastructure and reducing them to a tribal fourth world nation, Bush is perplexed why he can’t unify the country around a pro-American leader?
September 5th, 2007 at 3:53 pmJust thinking of his “legacy” AND establishing a case for plausible denial of impending war crimes charges.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:54 pmChief U.N. inspector Hans Blix and International Atomic Energy Agency head Mohamed ElBaradei came to that conclusion before the U.S. invasion….
September 5th, 2007 at 3:55 pmThis book is causing quite a stir among the public. It sounds more like a marketing ploy from those in the government. They can pretend to sound earnest and get their ideas across the same way.
September 5th, 2007 at 3:57 pmI advise y’all to steer clear of Barbara Bush for the next few months. It could be dangerous…
September 5th, 2007 at 4:07 pmNo kidding? This guy really IS dumber than a pile of rocks.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:07 pmbush is the long feared madman with his finger on the nuclear trigger.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:10 pm.
OMG, there are still trolls posting here that think Saddam had WMD? The trolls here just get dumber and dumber. It’s just not as fun as it used to be when we could reason with them.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pm“Between the U.S. invasion and April 2006, numerous government inspectors concluded, beyond a doubt, that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction.”
TP what report actually said “beyond a doubt”?
September 5th, 2007 at 4:16 pmTP what report actually said “beyond a doubt�
Comment by Tracy — September 5, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Ah, doubting Thomas is here to tell us all why the EARTH IS FLAT! You’re an embarrassment to the human race, your profession and this country! I’m sure your wide stance makes you an embarrassment to that fat stupid wife of yours as well!
September 5th, 2007 at 4:21 pmCondi didn’t there were WMDs:
http://www.smh.com.au/ articles/ 2003/ 04/ 30/ 1051381997497.html
And what of Bush:
“Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of Sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.”
George W. Bush, Jan. 28, 2003
Hahahaha…Saddam hauled 500 tons…350 Honda Civics worth of
VX and Sarin over to his bestest pal, Syria, or his even betterest
pal, Iran, or wait, his superbestest pal, Saudi Arabia, in few view
of US recon (do they SUCK or is Saddam a Comic book Villain of
epic proportions?).
Look, right wing losers, you were wrong, you *are* wrong and you
always *will be wrong*…but at least you have fact that you’ve
turned our reputation to shit and bankrupted us for generations
to come. Hope you “got yours” and aren’t just moronic ass-kissing
lickspittles. I also hope for your sake you’ve hidden your blood-
stained lucre carefully, for there will be a reckoning in your lifetime,
unless you’ve got one foot in the grave and another on a banana
peel ala your god, Cheney. Revolutions or Depression followed by
an 21st Century New Deal. Either way, you’ll lose.
Bush doesn’t give a sh*t about WMDs. He simply is basking in the
September 5th, 2007 at 4:24 pmafterglow of getting everything he wanted. He’s laughing the whole
nation for collectively being dumb enough to be tricked into a war
over oil and US Hegemony. Win-Win if you’re a connected GoOPer.
I suppose he thinks he’ll be hanging in Paraguay with billions while
the next US Civil War hits the fan. But make no mistake; Bush cares
not one whit for the country that gave him his power and wealth, and
cares not at all at the millions of lives he’s destroyed. Nor does he give
a sh*t about the ass-kissing sycophants on this board, who are the
REALLY insane ones. They would truly destroy the world just to be
“proved right”. Sucks to be you.
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Comment by JakeIsATerrorist — September 5, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
I asked for someone to cite a report that concluded with 100% certainty that before the 2003 invasion that there absolutely no WMDs in Iraq. Since you are not able to perform this simple task, do yourself a favor and provide what was asked for instead of popping off at the mouth with your chicken shit drivel.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:29 pmEveryone should have gotten a clue that he is insane when he said that the Invisible Magical Faerie in the Sky told him to attack Iraq.
He is a superstitious fool being followed by moronic fools.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:33 pmThe monumental size of Bush’s ego and greed is surpassed only by the enormous ignorance of those who voted for him and especially those who continue to support him (the 28% club). There are none so blind as those who will not see.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:35 pmI asked for someone to cite a report that concluded with 100% certainty that before the 2003 invasion that there absolutely no WMDs in Iraq. Since you are not able to perform this simple task, do yourself a favor and provide what was asked for instead of popping off at the mouth with your chicken shit drivel. Comment by Tracy — September 5, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
1) The administration claimed there was an entire stockpile of WMD, this has been debunked beyond a shadow of a doubt.
2) There were no WMDs found in Iraq - PERIOD.
3) There has never been any proof that WMDs were in Iraq when we invaded.
Unless you have proof that WMDs were found, then you should do yourself a favor and provide what was asked for PROOF THAT WMDs WERE FOUND instead of popping off at the mouth with your chicken shit drivel. Dumbass.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:35 pm“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” — From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
“This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” — From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others
“Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities” — From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002
“Saddam’s goal … is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed.” — Madeline Albright, 1998
“(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983″ — National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998
“Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement.” — Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability.” — Robert Byrd, October 2002
“There’s no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat… Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He’s had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001… He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn’t have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we.” — Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002
“What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad’s regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs.” — Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002
“The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow.” — Bill Clinton in 1998
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.” — Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
“I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons…I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out.” — Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003
“Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people.” — Tom Daschle in 1998
“Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.” — John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
“The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.” — John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
“I share the administration’s goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction.” — Dick Gephardt in September of 2002
“Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” — Al Gore, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” — Bob Graham, December 2002
“Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction.” — Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” — Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002
“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein’s regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed.” — Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002
“I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” — John F. Kerry, Oct 2002
“The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation.” — John Kerry, October 9, 2002
“(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. …And now he is miscalculating America?s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War.” — John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.” — Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002
“Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States.” — Joe Lieberman, August, 2002
“Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq’s denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq’s claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction.” — Patty Murray, October 9, 2002
“As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” — Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998
“Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production.” — Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources — something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” — John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
“Saddam?s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq?s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East.” — John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
September 5th, 2007 at 4:36 pm#133
“Saddam hauled 500 tons…350 Honda Civics worth of VX and Sarin over to his bestest pal, Syria”
No she said “MATERIALS TO PRODUCE” which BTW since you aren’t too familiar with these raw materials need to produce the precursors that are needed make say sarin gas….they weren’t banned by U.N. resolutions leveled against Iraq after the first Gulf War.
“I suppose he thinks he’ll be hanging in Paraguay with billions while
the next US Civil War hits the fan…”
As if you guys would be able to start one? What are you going to do yell in protest at a bunch of armed citizens?
September 5th, 2007 at 4:49 pmWhen Sadaam was toppled, there were 500 MILLION TONS of explosives in Iraq. Our troops drove right by these massive munitions dumps, leaving them unguaded and un destroyed. These explosives were subsequently looted by insurgents, and ended up in the IED’s and Truckbombs that have killed so many of our brave soldiers and marines.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:52 pmI can’t believe that some in our Military weren’t aware of ,and worried about these weapons of Slightly Less Than Mass Desruction…but their orders were to drive by, and find those hidden WMD’s.
This is a clear example of the dangers of being led by the delusional.
Firehead and Tracy begs the question; why didn’t Bush attack Syria if thats where the WMD is?
Do you, Tracy/Firehead have 100% proof of that transfer of precursor chemicals?
September 5th, 2007 at 4:53 pmThe only WMD in Iraq were the tons and tons of high explosives deliberately handed to anyone by our own government to create the situation of endless occupation for the ‘arranged’ contracts of profit.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:54 pmSo obvious and yet no justice for those involved.
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/wmd_state.htm
Here is a list of states, that according to Tracy, we should attack.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:55 pm#137
Comment by JakeIsATerrorist — September 5, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
“Unless you have proof that WMDs were found, then you should do yourself a favor and provide what was asked for PROOF THAT WMDs WERE FOUND”.
I know of no evidence that says that WMDs were found AFTER the invasion. Your three points are totally valid and true. The only thing I asked for was someone to cite a report that said with 100% certainty that WMDs were not in Iraq BEFORE the 2003 invasion. Please provide this…if you are able, and next time read AND understand what was asked for.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:56 pmOf course Bush still believed (and probably still believes) that: Rumsfeld still has the receipts!
September 5th, 2007 at 4:56 pmAs if you guys would be able to start one? What are you going to do yell in protest at a bunch of armed citizens?
Comment by Tracy
Thats why the posse comitatus act was changed, under the fear of terrorism Tracy, to use US troops to take your guns away.
September 5th, 2007 at 4:58 pmThe only thing I asked for was someone to cite a report that said with 100% certainty that WMDs were not in Iraq BEFORE the 2003 invasion. Please provide this…if you are able, and next time read AND understand what was asked for.
September 5th, 2007 at 5:00 pm\
And I am asking for 100% proof that stuff was transferred to Syria.
And while we’re on the subject…
Chemical ‘WMD’ found at U.N. may be little more than cleaner
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BY ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS POLICE BUREAU CHIEF
Wednesday, September 5th 2007, 4:00 AM
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Fooled again.
Chemicals discovered in the United Nations’ Manhattan offices - feared to be a toxic agent produced by Saddam Hussein’s regime a decade ago - may be nothing worse than a cleaning solvent, sources said yesterday.
Preliminary tests show the substance, which was found Aug. 24, was not the potentially fatal phosgene, sources said.
“It’s not phosgene, and it tested negative for all other chemical warfare agents. It’s not dangerous, and it’s not what they thought they had,” a law enforcement source said.
UN officials discovered the chemical in a canister sealed in an unmarked plastic bag a