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Ohio congressman found dead.

By Faiz Shakir on Sep 5th, 2007 at 12:34 pm

Ohio congressman found dead.

“Rep. Paul Gillmor (R-Oh) passed away suddenly Tuesday night, according to his office. No other details were immediately available. He was 68. … Capitol Police is currently investigating, but sources believe that the 10-term lawmaker may have had a heart attack.”

UPDATE: Also, “former Republican U.S. Rep. Jennifer Dunn, who represented Seattle’s conservative east-side suburbs for six terms in Congress, died Wednesday after suffering a pulmonary embolism in her Virginia apartment, said a statement from her family.”



123 Responses to “Ohio congressman found dead.”

  1. bobh says:

    Condolences to his family.


  2. upside00 says:

    I am sorry for his family’s loss. And I do hope it was of natural causes.


  3. bobh says:

  4. upside00 says:

    #3

    WTF was THAT comment? And what is its relevance here?


  5. Bobwurst says:

    Does anyone have any background on Rep Gillmor?


  6. Art says:

    My deepest sympathy and sorrow to his family and friends.


  7. Uncle Ho says:

    Gilmore is now a GOOD Republican.


  8. Badmoodman says:

    Heart attack? Naaah, it had to be a Clinton.


  9. lonesomerobot says:

    congratulations, bobh, for claiming first at the third comment on a thread reporting the unfortunate death of a u.s. representative, you win assface of the week award.


  10. mongo says:

    Too many wide stances?


  11. Fan_of_Man says:

    im so sad, another repub gone.


  12. Wilco says:

    Uncle Ho, that’s a despicable comment


  13. Your Conscience says:

    He had a heart? Second opinion please.


  14. Dermot says:

    He was on the Financial Services Committe investigating hedge funds.

    And

    Seth Tobias of CNBC also found dead floating in his pool today. He was a hedge funder.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2007/09/05/2007-09-05_cnbc_commentator_seth_tobias_found_dead_.html

    Any connections here?


  15. upside00 says:

    you win assface of the week award.

    Comment by lonesomerobot — September 5, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

    And that took some heavy lifting considering all that has been troll-dropped lately!


  16. DM says:

    Captain Paul E. Gillmor (Air Force-ret), Vietnam veteran, 10-term congressman from Ohio, rest in peace. Your country thanks you for your service.


  17. mongo says:

  18. Dermot says:

    He was on Financial Services committee investigating hedge funds.


  19. mongo says:

    “He was on the Financial Services Committe investigating hedge funds.

    And

    Seth Tobias of CNBC also found dead floating in his pool today. He was a hedge funder.

    Any connections here?”

    Hmm…did the clintons invest in any hedge funds?


  20. Kay says:

    no opinion.

    But he probably voted for this illegal, damn (war) occupation.


  21. Dermot says:

    Mongo

    Probably not. Being insiders they probably know when to put up and when to get out.


  22. bobh says:

    First post is a SORT of victory dance. And i did get first post. Ha!


  23. toasterhead says:

    Well that’s sad. I hope there was no foul play involved.


  24. Liberalism Causes Herpes says:

    no opinion.
    But he probably voted for this illegal, damn (war) occupation.
    Comment by Kay — September 5, 2007 @ 12:45 pm

    Liberalese for “good riddance”, based on nothing more than his stance on the war and mirrors the liberal opinion of soldiers who get killed during the “illegal” occupation and the victims of 911 who died “because of American imperialism”.

    Twit.


  25. Polly Mathe says:

    First post! Ha!

    Comment by bobh — September 5, 2007 @ 12:36 pm

    #3

    WTF was THAT comment? And what is its relevance here?

    Comment by upside00

    This is known as the “Patrick1 syndrome”


  26. Chocolate Jesus says:

    Too many freedom fries?


  27. bobh says:

    damn! i caught something from one of THEM.


  28. Chaldovian Memtaragon says:

    He was on Financial Services committee investigating hedge funds.

    Edwards had him killed. How many New Orleans families were foreclosed-on by Fortress?


  29. upside00 says:

    First post is a SORT of victory dance. And i did get first post. Ha!

    Comment by bobh — September 5, 2007 @ 12:46 pm

    Only in Repug World is #3 = #1. Kinda like the rover’s “THE math” in the 06 elections.

    Funny, how it takes so little to pacify the trolls lately. (Sad, actually.)


  30. bobh says:

    Noe Was a Long Time Contributor to National Republicans. Noe has been donating to National Republicans for years. Noe has donated $21,000 in the past two years to Senator George Voinovich (R-OH) and has donated to Republican Representatives Deborah Pryce GOP Conference Chairwoman, David Hobson Assistant Majority Whip, and Paul E. Gillmor Deputy Majority Whip. Noe and his wife also gave $5,000 a piece to the CARE political action committee and Ohio’s 17 Star PAC. These PAC’s have donated money to various national Republicans including Senator John Thune (R-SD), Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), and Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA). Noe has also donated to the Republican National Committee. [Columbus Dispatch, 4/28/05; http://www.tray.com

    there – a connection to a dirty fundraiser for the repugs


  31. upside00 says:

    This is known as the “Patrick1 syndrome”
    Comment by Polly Mathe — September 5, 2007 @ 12:51 pm

    How sad for Patrick1’s family!


  32. Hillary Whacked Vince says:

    Uncle Ho – Good point. In the eyes of the hateful MSM, the only good Republican, is a dead one. Case in point, Reagan and Ford.

    In related news, former Congresswoman Jennifer Dunn died at just 66 years of age. So sad. She was a good one, too.


  33. bobh says:

    hey29 look at the poster of #1 – its mee dumbass.


  34. Jasper says:

    Pelosi having a quiet celebration in her office right about now?


  35. toasterhead says:

    the liberal opinion of soldiers who get killed during the “illegal” occupation and the victims of 911 who died “because of American imperialism”.

    Twit.

    Comment by Liberalism Causes Herpes — September 5, 2007 @ 12:50 pm

    It’s pretty sad that you people have to hijack a condolences thread to bash liberals. There’s really no level you won’t stoop to, is there? Have you no soul whatsoever?


  36. bobh says:

    When discussing terrorist attacks, he said another attack is likely to happen “sooner or later.”

    Gillmor also called the war in Iraq a “mess that was not necessary.”

    But, he said, “It’s going to be a good end there if the Iraqis stand up for themselves.”

    Wow. Gillmore wsnt drinking the koolaide.


  37. bobh says:

    I’m beyond feeling sorry for any of them. he was a decent fellow it seems. Too bad he was republican. You will find repugs in texas spit on you when your back is turned. Back at them.


  38. yikes says:

    hey29 look at the poster of #1 – its mee dumbass.

    Comment by bobh — September 5, 2007 @ 12:55 pm

    Get a grip bobh. Are you 10 years old?


  39. bobh says:

    No. but i got first post. Whew. the excitement is wearing off.


  40. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Liberalism Causes Herpes sez:

    Liberalese for “good riddance”, based on nothing more than his stance on the war

    Yes, nothing more that his support for the illegal and immoral occupation of a sovereign country that was no threat to us and had nothing to do with 9/11, that was justified by lies told to us by our own government, that has bankrupted this country both financially and morally, and that has (so far) cost the lives of almost 4000 American soldiers, as well as almost 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens (plus uncounted more of future generations, due to all the depleted uranium we’re poisoning the landscape with).

    Nothing more than that…isn’t that enough?

    and mirrors the liberal opinion of soldiers who get killed during the “illegal” occupation and the victims of 911 who died “because of American imperialism”.

    There’s a HUGE difference between the corrupt politicians who enabled and continue to enable this monstrous crime and the soldiers who are ordered to die for the Chimperor’s pleasure, not to mention the innocent civilians who lost their lives on 9/11. If you’re truly unable to comprehend that difference, you are not qualified to post your ravings here or anywhere else. Log off before you embarass yourself further.


  41. bilbobaggins says:

    Only the mindless trolls on this site could bring up Clinton on a thread about a deceased Congressman. Typical troll mentality.

    My heartfelt condolences to his family and loved ones.

    No one here except for our resident trolls are saying that we are happy this person is dead, any more than people here rejoice when we hear a soldier has died. That is all Rethug spin and everyone knows it.


  42. Liberalism Causes Herpes says:

    It’s pretty sad that you people have to hijack a condolences thread to bash liberals. There’s really no level you won’t stoop to, is there? Have you no soul whatsoever?

    Oh my, you must be a really sad concern troll today, huh?

    You feel like pissing on your lib brethren like ‘Uncle Ho’ and ‘Fan of Man’ who werent exactly refraining from the bashing of this dead guy or is your sorrow partisan?


  43. A.Political says:

    Condolences to his family and friends, and please, trolls lay off this thread, it’s one of your own, no one should revel in someone else’s death it’s uncivilized and petty, try to rise above the typical republican behavior please.


  44. bobh says:

    Voting to Uphold President’s Veto of Iraq Surrender Bill
    Filed under: Your Democracy, Global War on Terror, Congressional Report — Paul Gillmor
    at 3:47 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2007

    Today, I voted to uphold President Bush’s veto of legislation which would bind any funding for operations in the War in Iraq with timelines to withdraw all combat troops. Nearly three months ago, the President requested $103 billion for emergency funding for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as Katrina reconstruction efforts. The bill agreed to in a conference committee by the House and Senate provided $124.2 billion in funding including many extraneous projects which were needed to “buy votes.”

    I voted to uphold the President’s veto of the Iraq funding bill for two reasons: first the bill includes several arbitrary deadlines for the withdrawal of combat troops from Iraq and second, the Democrat leadership added $21 billion in non-emergency funding to buy the votes of members who would have otherwise opposed the bill. The bill originally passed by a narrow vote of 51% in the U.S. House and 53% in the Senate.

    The Democrat Iraq funding bill would have required troops to begin leaving Iraq as early as July 1, 2007 with the removal of all combat forces completed by April 1, 2008.

    Forget what i said about him being a decent fellow – he was an arse.


  45. Krazny says:

    My condolences to the family and friends, I pray they find God’s peace.


  46. lonesomerobot says:

    doesn’t matter if you’re first, bobh.

    being first in the comments is not an accomplishment (so just a hint, don’t add it to your resumé). taking time at #3 to congratulate yourself just tells us all how boring your life must be. and your “condolences” at #1 lost all sincerity.


  47. yikes says:

    Liberalism Causes Herpes

    Really? It looks more like Conservatism causes a loss of critical thinking.


  48. bilbobaggins says:

    Pelosi having a quiet celebration in her office right about now?
    Comment by Jasper

    So Jasper, why would Pelosi have a celebration? In your dreams maybe, but Nancy Pelosi is a good human being with a soul. Which is more than can be said about you.


  49. Dermot says:

    Yes, he was a good guy all right. An all round ‘good’ German, I mean American. Served on the illustrious Subcommitte on Capital Markets… that had no problem with hedge funds. Just needed a few tweaks to make it perfect, they all agreed.

    THE LONG AND SHORT OF HEDGE FUNDS:
    EFFECTS OF STRATEGIES FOR MANAGING
    MARKET RISK

    Thursday, May 22, 2003
    U.S. House of Representatives,
    Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Insurance,
    And Government Sponsored Enterprises
    Committee on Financial Services,

    “So our purpose here today is not to condemn the hedge fund concept, but merely to continue the committee’s ongoing examination of all aspects of market function, which began almost three years ago. There is some expressed concern as innovation proceeds that the fund of funds becomes a methodology for the retailization of hedge fund risk, which certainly leads us to examine suitability requirements and the necessary transparency of disclosure of the risk undertaken by hedge funds so that even the sophisticated investor may properly examine the risk they are assuming with their investment. Beyond the initial disclosures made at the time of investment decisions, it is apparent to me that a continuing disclosure regime would also be advisable, given the nature of the hedge fund’s changing its risk profile. Certainly, there should be examination of the standards for the management of the hedge fund. With the extraordinary growth not only in the nominal dollar amount, but in the numbers of hedge funds, as best we can determine what they are, there is certainly an increased level of anxiety about the adequacy of management not only in disclosure, but in day-to-day governance of the risk assumed by their operation.
    We also need to examine the current regulatory requirements for registration. Since the manager of a single hedge fund is not required under current rule to become a registered compliant entity with the SEC, therefore the manager of up to 14 hedge funds perhaps could not be subject to SEC oversight and examination, and whether that regime is appropriate in today’s environment.
    Having listed a number of concerns, certainly the function of hedge funds in today’s market is a positive addition. ”

    http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/bank/hba89633.000/hba89633_0.HTM


  50. bobh says:

    45 you are so right i am bored – i guess i should go to lucnh.


  51. Uncle Ho says:

    Wilco; I take my updated cue from Gen. Sheridan. I believe he’s the one who said “The only good Indian is the one that’s dead.”


  52. Dermot says:

    This is the part I like the best

    ” Since the manager of a single hedge fund is not required under current rule to become a registered compliant entity with the SEC, therefore the manager of up to 14 hedge funds perhaps could not be subject to SEC oversight and examination, and whether that regime is appropriate in today’s environment.
    Having listed a number of concerns, certainly the function of hedge funds in today’s market is a positive addition”


  53. Badmoodman says:

    Wow. Gillmore wsnt drinking the koolaide.
    - – Hmmm, maybe he was slipped a special batch.


  54. toasterhead says:

    You feel like pissing on your lib brethren like ‘Uncle Ho’ and ‘Fan of Man’ who werent exactly refraining from the bashing of this dead guy or is your sorrow partisan?

    Comment by Liberalism Causes Herpes — September 5, 2007 @ 1:00 pm

    And the bashing continues! A simple “I’m sorry. You’re right – I was out of line” would’ve been sufficient. I’m sure the “dead guy’s” family appreciates your sticking to your partisan guns during their time of mourning.


  55. bob lahblah says:

    Wow—how about just a shred of respect for the dead, everybody?


  56. lonesomerobot says:

    pelosi doesn’t need to celebrate.

    she’s already speaker of the house.
    i know, it hurts for you to hear that.

    a democrat, and a woman, is SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATES.

    and republicans will lose more seats in the house AND senate in 2008.

    so go cry in your kool aid.


  57. Fan_of_Man says:

    gods peace? you mean hope he rots in hell with the rest of em!

    i do.


  58. Cynicon Implant says:

    Too many of you are finding this man’s death a reason to celebrate (one less repug, etc.); others are wondering what kind of repug he was to see if you should feel any sympathy for him and his family. This is almost as bad.

    For god’s sake, can’t you just express your condolences (to their credit, many posters did) and leave it at that?

    A death is not an event to use to try and whip up partisan anger.


  59. bobh says:

    Fielding audience questions, he discussed Social Security, said he expects a revitalization of the nuclear power industry, and also acknowledged a degree of animosity between Republicans and Democrats in national politics.

    “I think it’s very bad,” he said. “I’m one of those that’s trying to correct it.”

    And hes a liar – considering his animosity in the above posted issue about the withdrawal bill. pardon me – hes a dead liar.


  60. jb says:

    Comment by Liberalism Causes Herpes — September 5, 2007 @ 12:50 pm

    The death of soldiers fighting the illegal occupation is vastly more honorable, though a tragic waste, than the lives of war boosters and apologists.


  61. bobh says:

    thanks master p – good to know you havent drowned in the oatmeal – what with the straps from the white suit holding your arms so tight.


  62. bobh says:

    why do republicans hate americans?


  63. hug the moon says:

    Sad he had to die a gay bigot. Maybe in the next life he will understand the fluidity of human sexuality. Be able to see homos as a true human reality, part of gods best work. As opposed to a freakish fetish. Later dude.


  64. Dermot says:

    For god’s sake, can’t you just express your condolences (to their credit, many posters did) and leave it at that?

    A death is not an event to use to try and whip up partisan anger.

    Oh quit the phony concern. This isn’t partisan anger. This is just plain anger at being ripped off by the likes of Gillmor. He probably committed suicide or was offed because he was deeply enmeshed in the hedge fund crime syndicate. He’s now trying to explain to the gatekeepers how he could sell out his country for millions.


  65. Headybrew.net says:

    I say tho hell with him.

    The republicans would have no (real) sympathy for a dem that died. They’d do lipservice and then go ask Karl Rove how to best capitalize on it.

    So Screw him to hell.


  66. Uncle Ho says:

    Cynicon; I have NO doubt that if Clinton keeled over dead, you would be hosting a HUGE BLOCK PARTY. So f*ck off!!!


  67. jb says:

    “The only good Indian is the one that’s dead.”

    Comment by Uncle Ho — September 5, 2007 @ 1:05 pm

    Better dead than Red (state).


  68. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Master P sez:

    Yep. Why do Proglibs hate America?

    See my earlier post for a point-by-point rebuttal of the post you so vapidly quoted, Pee.


  69. hug the moon says:

    My sincere condolances for those who loved him. Especially his gay family members who supported him while they were getting their rights oppressed.


  70. Cynicon Implant says:

    Cynicon; I have NO doubt that if Clinton keeled over dead, you would be hosting a HUGE BLOCK PARTY. So f*ck off!!!

    Comment by Uncle Ho

    Would have to be a huge party — well, a huge cASSket anyway, to fit her backside into it

    But no, Ho, I do not celebrate anyone’s death.


  71. Evil Spaniard says:

    A (R)… a heart attack? No wonder the police is puzzled and hasn”t closed the case yet.


  72. Uncle Ho says:

    Cynicon; On the other hand, if Bush/Cheney keeled over, that WOULD be a cause celebre’. AND THE CROWD GOES WILD!


  73. G.I. says:

    Horrible about the Representative Gillmor. Hope it was just a garden variety heart attack and nothing sinister involving hedge funds or the country’s housing Ponzi scheme that’s begun to come to light. Seems like just yesterday, 2001 actually, when Rep. Gilmoor joined forces with “Sky Bank and Fannie Mae to Announce Initiative To Help Local Low-Income Families Become Homeowners” — you know, that group of Americans now defaulting on home loans at a record pace that should never have been able to attain them in the first place.


  74. A Patriot Acting says:

    “A death is not an event to use to try and whip up partisan anger.”

    Comment by Cynicon Implant — September 5, 2007 @ 1:07 pm

    “Today, I voted to uphold President Bush’s veto of legislation which would bind any funding for operations in the War in Iraq with timelines to withdraw all combat troops. ”

    But 3,750 American soldiers deaths most certainly are!

    He wasn’t drinking his kool-ade, though. Maybe he was Cheneyed.


  75. Cynicon Implant says:

    that group of Americans now defaulting on home loans at a record pace that should never have been able to attain them in the first place.

    Comment by G.I.

    So this guy Gillmor works on an initiative to help low-income families become homeowners and this is somehow an evil plot? Are you saying that low-income families should not be free to take out a home loan? Who gets to decide who does and who does not get one?

    Re. the defaults: did the families not understand the risks and responsibilities when they entered in to the loan agreement? Whose fault is that?


  76. Uncle Ho says:

    A death is not an event to use- comment by Cynicon

    Tell that to KKK Rove & Bush who trotted out 9/11 at EVERY partisan opportunity, bugwit.


  77. Tundra says:

    My Condolences to his family and friends, may some peace come from this for you.


  78. Cynicon Implant says:

    A death is not an event to use- comment by Cynicon

    Tell that to KKK Rove & Bush who trotted out 9/11 at EVERY partisan opportunity, bugwit.

    Comment by Uncle Ho

    So which terrorist group gave Gillmor his heart attack?


  79. dlet says:

    Comment by Liberalism Causes Herpes

    So now we know how you came to be.


  80. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Cynicon Implant sez:

    So which terrorist group gave Gillmor his heart attack?

    That didn’t even make a token amount of sense, CI. You’re slipping.


  81. Bob says:

    Here is a view of our President Bushes heart:

    A tear runs down President Bush’s cheek as he takes part in a Medal of Honor Ceremony for Marine Cpl. Jason Dunham of Scio, N.Y., Thursday, Jan. 11, 2007, in the East Room of the White House in Washington. Bush granted journalist Robert Draper several extended interviews in late 2006 and early 2007, as well as unusual access to his aides, for the book “Dead Certain: The Presidency of George W. Bush,” which went on sale Tuesday, Sept. 4, 2007. In the book Bush is quoted as saying, “I’ve got God’s shoulder to cry on. And I cry a lot. I do a lot of crying in this job. I’ll bet I’ve shed more tears than you can count, as president. I’ll shed some tomorrow.”



  82. OBigMouthIsAWhinyGOPShill says:

    Ah, Mr. Pee taps his foot for Jake D. how ROMANTIC!!!


  83. OBigMouthIsAWhinyGOPShill says:

    So this guy Gillmor works on an initiative to help low-income families become homeowners and this is somehow an evil plot? Comment by Cynicon Implant — September 5, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    When it involves unscrupulous lending practices with subprime loans and exploitative USURY – well YES!

    Are you saying that low-income families should not be free to take out a home loan? Who gets to decide who does and who does not get one? Comment by Cynicon Implant — September 5, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    Are you saying that businesses should be permitted to exploit low income families? Who gets to decide that exploitation is allowed in the name of the free market? The corrupt GOP? The obviously unwilling to self regulate loan industry?

    Re. the defaults: did the families not understand the risks and responsibilities when they entered in to the loan agreement? Whose fault is that?
    Comment by Cynicon Implant — September 5, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    Often the fault of the mortgage companies, that’s why several of them have already had their hands slapped DESPITE the lax enforcement of the corrupt GOP. You’re a lunatic!


  84. Justice says:

    every single Rethug troll is such an IDIOT. They are too dumb to face the fact that 9/11 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IRAQ.
    How truly dense are they? Bush invaded Iraq ILLEGALLY and his true motive is now coming to light, he wanted to create a permanent presence in the Middle East and he was willing to murder and displace over a MILLION Iraqis to do it. He and his co conspirators all belong in the Hague. He has sunk us into unbelievable debt, destroyed our Justice Dept. lied, cheated and stole the election to begin with and proceeded to politicize EVERY dept. of our govt. ALL ILLEGAL.
    These idiot Bush supporters are aiding and abetting criminals. They have no morals and NO BRAIN.
    Geezus they are dumber than dirt.


  85. Daryll says:

    I will continue to pray for the reputable Congressmen’s family. He is in Paradise (Abraham’s womb) awaiting the Rapture. I’ll see you there, Rep. Gillmor.


  86. Krazny says:

    I will continue to pray for the reputable Congressmen’s family. He is in Paradise (Abraham’s womb) awaiting the Rapture. I’ll see you there, Rep. Gillmor.

    Comment by Daryll — September 5, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

    I would rather just go to heaven if it is all the same to you. Being in a man’s womb doesn’t appeal to me.


  87. Perry Logan says:

    At long last–a good Republican.


  88. Uncle Ho says:

    Cynicon; the terrorist group known as the G.O.P. (Gay Old Perverts)


  89. ronjazz says:

    Re. the defaults: did the families not understand the risks and responsibilities when they entered in to the loan agreement? Whose fault is that?

    Comment by Cynicon Implant — September 5, 2007 @ 1:39 pm

    gillmor’s. I see you took an extra helping of Stupid this morning.


  90. upside00 says:

    I will continue to pray for the reputable Congressmen’s family. He is in Paradise (Abraham’s womb) awaiting the Rapture. I’ll see you there, Rep. Gillmor.

    Comment by Daryll — September 5, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

    Daryll,

    Do you have the same concern and wishes for the 3700+ dead troops in Iraq and the 100’s of thousands of dead Iraqis as well?

    I really do want to hear your answer on this one.


  91. Daryll says:

    I will continue to pray for the reputable Congressmen’s family. He is in Paradise (Abraham’s womb) awaiting the Rapture. I’ll see you there, Rep. Gillmor.

    Comment by Daryll — September 5, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

    Daryll,

    Do you have the same concern and wishes for the 3700+ dead troops in Iraq and the 100’s of thousands of dead Iraqis as well?

    I really do want to hear your answer on this one.

    Comment by upside00 — September 5, 2007 @ 2:18 pm

    Sure do, but I can’t send Non-Christian Iraqis to heaven. They must seek redemption for themselves.


  92. Wilco says:

    Uncle Ho, et al
    if it’s wrong for the Right to use deaths of those on the Left as reasons to celebrate, how is it right for you to use the death of one of theirs?
    If the left is supposed to be better than the right, then BE better.
    Calling yourself better doesn’t do it. Acting like a sick bastard revelling in the death of another human being doesn’t make you better than ANYBODY.


  93. Libber says:

    …the hooker got away


  94. jb says:

    (Abraham’s womb) awaiting the Rapture.

    Is that in the stall in the men’s room at the airport?


  95. Uncle Ho says:

    Wilco; how many Iraqis died as a result of Gilmor’s continued support of this illegal war and occupation? How many maimed? How many Americans? Do you even care?


  96. Daryll says:

    (Abraham’s womb) awaiting the Rapture.

    Is that in the stall in the men’s room at the airport?

    Comment by jb — September 5, 2007 @ 2:32 pm

    Not funny. Do you have proof that he solicited sex?


  97. Godless SOB says:

    Condolence thread? Who are you kidding! This is a comments thread! And my comment?

    Maybe their God(tm) is taking them home! Maybe the rapture is truly upon us, and only the WORTHY are being cherry-picked for that ride! Watch out – armageddon is next, I think…


  98. Lupeyg2 says:

    Gillmor may have been a Republican, but he was still a person. He was also the Rep for my hometown district. He presented our H.S. w/ a flag a while back and I got to meet him. He was on the wrong side of many issues, but for christ’s sakes, you are speaking ill of a dead man. Believe it or not, he was pretty good on local issues. Some of the heartless comments here make me sick.


  99. Godless SOB says:

    Can’t send non-christian Iraqis to heaven? But they’re the ones that are going to heaven while christians and jews rot somewhere! Or is it the jews who have it right and will go to heaven – and all the others are going to rot???

    Better pray on this one, Daryl. What if you’re wrong and they’re right? The only PROOF you have is your “faith” that they are wrong!!! When god comes down and sets everyone straight on the 6′o’clock news, I’ll be inclined to believe… Until then, it’s Ramen for me!


  100. Wilco says:

    Ah, I see your argument now, Uncle Ho.
    Because you don’t agree with the Iraq war, you believe the death of a ny person who has supported it to be a good thing, worthy of celebrating.
    Still sick. You don’t deserve the title of progressive. You just seem so blinded by your own hate. The man has a family. Will you be happy when they die?
    Will you be glad for every death among Gillmor’s constituents for putting him in office?
    Celebrate the deaths of the terrorists, if you must celebrate anyone’s deaths.
    The man just died. His family and friends are in mourning. Have you no decency at all?


  101. Wilco says:

    Lupey, I’m in Cleveland. What area did he represent?


  102. mongo says:

    “Capitol Police is currently investigating, but sources believe that the 10-term lawmaker may have had a heart attack.”

    Gee, from his picture, do you actually think Sen. Pudgy McFrenchFry could have died from a heart attack?


  103. Wilco says:

    It’s so encouraging to see so much humanity here killed by ideology. For a party that’s supposed to be the REAL party of compassion, this thread is pretty damning.


  104. Lupeyg2 says:

    He represented Ohio’s 5th Congressional District
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:OH05_109.PNG

    He was from Old Fort, just south of my hometowns of Fremont and Gibsonburg.


  105. mongo says:

    “For a party that’s supposed to be the REAL party of compassion, this thread is pretty damning.

    Comment by Wilco — September 5, 2007 @ 2:56 pm”

    Oh please. Spare us your trollish concern and outrage.


  106. Wilco says:

    fine, mongo, call me a troll.
    So when the right celebrates the death of whomever on the left, you have no right to criticize. none at all. you are just like them. please come to terms with that.


  107. JakeIsATerrorist says:

    Sure do, but I can’t send Non-Christian Iraqis to heaven. They must seek redemption for themselves.
    Comment by Daryll — September 5, 2007 @ 2:22 pm

    The fact you believe you could send ANYONE to a place called heaven that you have no idea, no proof, and no basis to believe even exists, proves you should be locked up in a padded cell!


  108. Uncle Ho says:

    Have you no decency?-comment by Wilco

    Nope. I feel the same way about all the “good” Germans who supported their fuehrer to the end too. They were bombed, invaded, crushed, and occupied. They brought it upon themselves.


  109. mongo says:

    “So when the right celebrates the death of whomever on the left, you have no right to criticize. none at all. you are just like them. please come to terms with that.

    Comment by Wilco — September 5, 2007 @ 3:00 pm”

    What are you talking about? Celebration of death and incapacitation of democratic party leadership has been SOP with the right forever.

    It has been nothing but hypocrisy with the party of family values and compassionate conservatism for decades.

    After all the damage done to America by the republic party, we should all be celebrating the gradual disintegration of their hold on power, even if it’s only the slow drip-drip-drip of individual deaths by natural causes.

    Q: What do you call one republican senator dead of a heart attack?

    A: A good start.


  110. An Outhouse says:

  111. upright left says:

    No one here except for our resident trolls are saying that we are happy this person is dead, any more than people here rejoice when we hear a soldier has died. That is all Rethug spin and everyone knows it.

    Comment by bilbobaggins — September 5, 2007 @ 1:00 pm

    Gilmore is now a GOOD Republican.
    Comment by Uncle Ho — September 5, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

    im so sad, another repub gone.
    Comment by Fan_of_Man — September 5, 2007 @ 12:41 pm

    I say tho hell with him.
    The republicans would have no (real) sympathy for a dem that died. They’d do lipservice and then go ask Karl Rove how to best capitalize on it.

    So Screw him to hell.
    Comment by Headybrew.net — September 5, 2007 @ 1:13 pm

    “No one here except for our resident trolls are saying that we are happy this person is dead,…”

    Oops! C’mon, now, bilbo. You had to know by now how this thread would go. ;)


  112. Lupeyg2 says:

    mongo – you’re a moron. You justify your own hate for Republicans and celebration of their deaths by saying “they do it to us”…. Way to go!


  113. mongo says:

    “mongo – you’re a moron.

    Comment by Lupeyg2 — September 5, 2007 @ 3:29 pm”

    No. I may be cruel and insensitive, but I’m not a moron.


  114. JakeIsATerrorist says:

    Oops! C’mon, now, bilbo. You had to know by now how this thread would go. ;)
    Comment by upright left — September 5, 2007 @ 3:28 pm

    So now you’re a MIND READER? BAHAHA, well you FAIL at everything else you try, why not, downright stupid! ;)


  115. JakeIsATerrorist says:

    Downright Stupid’s claims are that he should ‘pre-emptively’ charge people of crimes BEFORE they create them! How NAZI of him. ;)


  116. upright left says:

    Comment by JakeIsATerrorist — September 5, 2007 @ 3:43 pm

    Heh, heh, heh. Yet another name change, bud? Ticked you off that I knew how you’d react to this? ;)



  117. Anonymouse says:

    I think Jake…, upright… et al., have gotten lost somehow. It’s beyond crass to see anyone’s death as an invitation to dump.

    My sincere condolences to both the Gillmore and Dunn families.


  118. Robert M. says:

    Condolences?

    My congratulations to the family of the late republican traitor for being free of him at last.

    His background was in financial services. And then he moved into politics as a republican. In Congress he helped pave the way for the republican policies that are resulting in the meltdown of our economy and the destruction of our society.

    He enabled those who have stamped “National Security” on every piece of treason they have fashioned. And he enabled those who have trashed our Constitution and our form of representative democracy.

    Enough said. Good riddance.


  119. BARTLEBEE says:

    I’m not sure this post should be accepting comments. I put my personal feelings and even hatred aside when it comes to death.

    Death is a solemn occasion. Unless the guy was someone really, really bad, like Osama Bin Laden or Jerry Falwell, then I think we should probably let this family grieve and close this thread.


  120. Carol Lam says:

    http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_news&Number=295730413#Post295730413

    Bloomberg missed half the story:

    Republican sponsor of bill toughening lending standards found dead

    Quote:A key Republican sponsor of legislation aimed at toughening standards for non-bank lenders was reported dead today…

    Well, so much for that. Nice thought though.

    Yes, congressman gillmor did contact our household to participate in a town hall meeting via telephone conference call. He got mostly softballs until I pressed him on Iraq.

    He was a staunch bushite for many years and sent propaganda letters one after another.

    After much stammering about “bad intelligence”, he said he favored a withdrawal.

    Perhaps he was suicided. He wasn’t very old.


  121. LividLib says:

    one down, too many to go!



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