Right Wing Pushing Petraeus For President
Right Wing Pushing Petraeus For President
The GOP presidential field seemed complete last night when former senator Fred Thompson finally announced he was jumping into the race. But apparently the right-wing isn’t satisfied with its choices and is hoping that the race may have room for one more candidate — Gen. David Petraeus.
Today, the New York Sun has an editorial entitled “Petraeus for President?” In the piece, the editorial writers pen the speech they would like Petraeus to give on the sixth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks:
I am prepared, even eager, to command our forces in this battle — but only on one condition: That you signal that you share my goal of victory. If you think I am mistaken and wish to continue your efforts to undermine me, then I cannot command. Absent that signal, I will resign, effective immediately, and take my case to the voters in a run for the presidency on a campaign to finish the work of winning the war and redeeming the sacrifice of so many Iraqis, allies, and our own GIs.
The Corner’s Kathryn Jean Lopez approvingly linked to the editorial this morning, titling her post “Dream Sequence.” Last spring, The Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol told the Harvard Republican Club that he and other “conservative insider[s]” believe “a ticket of Fred Thompson and David Petraeus might be able to avert electoral disaster for the GOP” in 2008.
It’s unlikely that Petraeus would be as warmly received by the American public, which wants withdrawal from Iraq. According to a Rasmussen poll of major political figures, Petraeus has an approval rating of only 24 percent — a number lower than even Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.
As author of the “surge,” Petraeus is intimately tied to the administration and its Iraq failures and has acted as Bush’s main PR flack to cover-up mistakes. Some highlights:
Petraeus “softened” the intelligence community’s judgments about Iraq violence. After reviewing an early draft of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, “Petraeus succeeded in having the security judgments softened” to reflect so-called improvements in recent months.
Petraeus claimed the United States has “become liberators again” in Iraq. In June, Petraeus argued there was a “golden hour” of “omnipotence” in the early stages of the war where the U.S. was “viewed as a liberator.” He then claimed that Iraqis perceive the United States to once again be “liberators,” this time freeing them from the bloody civil war instigated as a result of the U.S. occupation.
Petraeus claimed life in Iraq is showing “astonishing signs of normalcy.” In June, Petraeus stated that he sees “astonishing signs of normalcy” in Baghdad, despite a report that found violence had “increased in most provinces, particularly in the outlying areas of Baghdad province.”
Petraeus has never shied away from inserting himself into politics. Just prior to the 2004 presidential election, Petraeus wrote an op-ed defending Bush’s course in Iraq. Recently, he defended Bush’s good friend Australian Prime Minister John Howard, who is facing a tough re-election race because of his support for the Iraq war.
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Well, Ike did a good job as President . . .
September 6th, 2007 at 1:15 pmlol Petraeus won’t run.
He hates his current job.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:17 pm“President Betrayus”.
Has a nice ring to it, don’t you think?
September 6th, 2007 at 1:17 pmPetraeus won’t run.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:17 pmYes! By all means! Get his ass OUT of Iraq and on the campaign trail.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:17 pmWell, Ike did a good job as President . . .
Comment by Jake D. — September 6, 2007 @ 1:15 pm
That’s debatable, and he would be considered a far leftie today! Gen Betrayus is no IKE!
September 6th, 2007 at 1:17 pmWell, Ike did a good job as President . . .
Comment by Jake D
Kinda. But he did a good job as General.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:18 pmI can’t wait, buddy. I wish you would run and get a chance to hear it directly from the voters.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:19 pmPoor Katharine Jean Lopez. She was predicting Rick Santorum was going to get re-elected in Pennsylvania on the day before Santorum was destroyed by bob Casey Jr. by around 20% points.
That woman needs to get out of her bubble more often.
She was dreaming, I swear, of Dick Cheney getting into the Republican race.
What is wrong with these people?
-GSD
September 6th, 2007 at 1:19 pmmichaelisretarded sez:
You’d think someone who purports to be 75 years old would know that, wouldn’t you?
September 6th, 2007 at 1:20 pmthis is who I want for President! SuperStar 08!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJamGFlVog
September 6th, 2007 at 1:21 pmThis isn’t about running Petraeus as president. It is about creating a positive image of him in advance of his “report”. All this chatter about it will disappear soon after the report is delivered by the White House.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:21 pmToday’s Republican Party would lump General Eisenhower in with Barney Frank, Michael Moore and Hugo Chavez.
-GSD
September 6th, 2007 at 1:22 pmYes and the Democratic Party leadership isn’t any better….
Democratic House Officials Recruited Wealthy Conservatives
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/090607J.shtml
September 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pm[Bush, Neo-Cons, ExxonMobil, Halliburton, Bechtel, Raytheon, GE, Blackwater, Sumner Redstone, Rupert Murdoch]: “Play ball on this report, Petraeus, and we could make you President. Want proof? Watch how we start the buzz.”
September 6th, 2007 at 1:24 pm11 Democratic office holders busted in New Jersey Federal Corruption Probe
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The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:24 pmAre the GOPrs grabbing at straws again?
Hmmmmh, Guli..No…hmmmh why..the ‘family matters’ folks don’t like him….hmmm…lets see…Ronnie..hmmm…freddy….hmmmmh..how about that fine charismatic fella…hmmmh…oh yes…lets support George W. Bu..for…wait…
September 6th, 2007 at 1:28 pmNOTHING will “avert electoral disaster for the GOP”. They’re delusional.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pml
September 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pmWatch how we start the buzz.
Buzz as in the buzz of the guidance systems built by Raytheon for the bunker buster bombs.
A group in Derry Ireland know how to handle that
September 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pmhttp://www.indymedia.ie/article/77825
Something tells me General Dochebag may not be as popular with the troops and their families as some might suggest.
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TRENTON, N.J. — FBI agents arrested a dozen people — 11 of whom are public officials — across New Jersey on Thursday in connection with a federal corruption probe, the U.S. Attorney’s office said..
The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:30 pmhe’s been a republican shill since OCTOBER 2004:
“BUSH: The best way for Iraq to be safe and secure is for Iraqi citizens to be trained to do the job. And that’s what we’re doing. We’ve got 100,000 trained now, 125,000 by the end of this year, over 200,000 by the end of next year.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ZAHN: Jamie, are those numbers right?
MCINTYRE: There’s a big dispute, Paula, about whether the Pentagon is overstating the number of Iraqis that are truly combat ready.
But the general who’s in charge of the training, very respected general, General Petraeus, insists that 100,000 is the right number out of 164,000 in Iraq. ”
(http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/01/ pzn.01.html)
September 6th, 2007 at 1:31 pmu
September 6th, 2007 at 1:31 pm11 Democratic office holders busted in New Jersey Federal Corruption Probe
U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie handled this one. One wonders was he a recent Rove political appointee, if so, he’s serving his masters well.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:32 pm-can’t he just have both jobs and finally complete the military coup?
September 6th, 2007 at 1:33 pmThis isn’t about running Petraeus as president. It is about creating a positive image of him in advance of his “reportâ€. All this chatter about it will disappear soon after the report is delivered by the White House.
Comment by VerbalKintM
This blogger is wise. We always need to remember: Everything the WH does has a political slant, everything. This is all about keeping the last
September 6th, 2007 at 1:33 pm27%er’s hoping for the best, and standing behind the administration. They got to keep the BS going at all costs.
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TRENTON, N.J. — FBI agents arrested a dozen people — 11 of whom are public officials — across New Jersey on Thursday in connection with a federal corruption probe, the U.S. Attorney’s office said..
The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer..
September 6th, 2007 at 1:34 pmFirst Tommy Franks, now Petraeus? What, is the GOP going through a list at the Pentegon? I knew they were desperate about next year, I didn’t think it had reached these levels.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:35 pmI bet Ron Paul could beat Hilary Clinton just based on his clear forthright stand on withdrawing from Iraq.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:35 pmo
September 6th, 2007 at 1:37 pm11 Democratic office holders busted in New Jersey Federal Corruption Probe
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TRENTON, N.J. — FBI agents arrested a dozen people — 11 of whom are public officials — across New Jersey on Thursday in connection with a federal corruption probe, the U.S. Attorney’s office said..
The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer…
September 6th, 2007 at 1:38 pmWith a name like BETRAY-US, he doesn’t have a snowdrop’s chance in hell!
September 6th, 2007 at 1:38 pmThe officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer..
Comment by Larry — September 6, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Off-topic, Lar. This thread is about Petraeus running for Prez.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:39 pmBush’s Legacy: A totally political, narrow-minded white house with a brain-dead administration.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:39 pmCorrupt Democrats? Fine. Try them, convict them, put them in jail.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:40 pmNo sympathy, no defense, no place for them in the party.
(and in New Jersey? What a surprise!)
what a funny notion. a republican running for office with actual military experience.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:41 pmAnd just exactly how is Patreus any different from the Congressional Dems??
Congressional Dems Willing To “Compromise” On Iraq
By Greg Sargent - September 6, 2007, 10:58AM
It looks as if Dem Congressional leaders are laying the groundwork for the possibility that they’ll be willing to continue funding the Iraq War this fall without insisting on withdrawal timetables.
Today’s New York Times reports that Dem leaders are now willing to reach a compromise of sorts with Republicans in order to get the 60 votes — a compromise that would entail dropping the idea of a date certain for withdrawing most of the troops from Iraq.
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/ 2007/ 09/ _congressional_dems_willing_to_compromise_on_iraq.php
September 6th, 2007 at 1:42 pmWhy don’t you post this on your main page, TP?
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TRENTON, N.J. — FBI agents arrested a dozen people — 11 of whom are public officials — across New Jersey on Thursday in connection with a federal corruption probe, the U.S. Attorney’s office said..
The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:42 pmWhere’s all that over-the-top support for old impotent Freddie? Last week it’s was Freddie all the way - this week, there’s no one the GOPhers like. What gives? Pushing Petreus into the slot is sure to doom the Republican party in 08. Once he is outed for the prostitute whom he is on the “surge”, he’ll be “surged right out of the running”.
This is getting interesting and comical now. The GOPhers are so filled with self-loathing that no one running appeals to them. Maybe they’ll someday “get” that if you hate yourself, you’re incapable of loving another.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:42 pmand in New Jersey? What a surprise!
Hey New Jersey is no more corrupt than any other State. They just happen to be Democrats with foreign sounding names and accents, not like the godly WASP ones from Idahomosexual.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:44 pm11 Democratic office holders busted in New Jersey Federal Corruption Probe
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TRENTON, N.J. — FBI agents arrested a dozen people — 11 of whom are public officials — across New Jersey on Thursday in connection with a federal corruption probe, the U.S. Attorney’s office said.
The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmVerbalkint: I would agree with your comment about it NOT being about Petreus for President and ALL about buffing him up so that he receives at least a modicum of respect from the american people in advance of the “agenda” he’s paid to push.
It won’t work. Nothing any Repuke does at this point will gain any traction with the people. The Republican Party is a mere cipher at this point - 27% and dropping like the Titanic.
By 08, I believe that we will see the total collapse of the GOP with the Independent Party taking it’s place. This is the only way to keep even the Democrats in line and working for the people! Obviously, they’ve been dragging their feet on impeachment which is the “next step” in taking back our country.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmPetraeus?
September 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmLet’s put Wesley Clark up against him. He’d tear him to shreds.
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TRENTON, N.J. — FBI agents arrested a dozen people — 11 of whom are public officials — across New Jersey on Thursday in connection with a federal corruption probe, the U.S. Attorney’s office said…
The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pmThese screwballs loved ‘bomb-them-back-to-the-stone-age” Gen. Curtis LeMay too.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pmAnd then the movement to a military dictatorship will be complete!
September 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pm11 Democratic office holders busted in New Jersey Federal Corruption Probe
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TRENTON, N.J. — FBI agents arrested a dozen people — 11 of whom are public officials — across New Jersey on Thursday in connection with a federal corruption probe, the U.S. Attorney’s office said..
The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer….
September 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pmHe can’t be president because his is not qualified.
Good Presidents always have at least 800,000 (Rwandan) genocides on their resumes.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pmIt won’t work. Nothing any Repuke does at this point will gain any traction with the people. The Republican Party is a mere cipher at this point - 27% and dropping like the Titanic
IT doesn’t need to work. The Repukes have the Democrats to come in behind them and conduct business as usual.
Come on, wake up. There are no longer two parties. Just one big foot tapping meeting in the men’s room at Reagan airport
September 6th, 2007 at 1:47 pmRon Paul isn’t dropping like the titanic. He got 36%, more than all the other morons, of the texters - which translates to young Republicans - cause the old conservative ones don’t understand the internet.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:48 pmWhat about Cheney running on the Federalist ticket with Joe Liberman? How about Fred Thompson and Clarence Thomas? Gotta love the authoritarian worship huh?
September 6th, 2007 at 1:49 pmDonald Duck for President…No, how about Goofy for Prez..Twitty Bird..hmmmh…
September 6th, 2007 at 1:49 pmLook, the hiring of War Czar Betray-us was so he could become Bush’s fall guy - everyone knows that. It was clear from the outset that General Betray-us is another pedestrian “bush puppet”. We all know that.
What Congress needs to know right now is that the people will not tolerate them not cutting the continued funding for the war when Baby Bush comes crying because his expense account has run out. Sorry, Bubble Boy, your allowance has been cut off!
They need to fund only enough money to ensure the return of our troops and not a penny more.
Where the hell is all of this money coming from anyway? China, perhaps? The same China who hacked into the Pentagon computers recently? The same China who now owns in excess of l/3 of our national debt who, if they chose to call it due and payable, could easily tank this economy and thus this country? Oh….for some reason I thought Bush was acting as though he “had” some money for this surge??
Come on, Congress. Get tough and cut the purse strings. Maybe then we can sever our connection to the most reviled individual internationally and the most unpopular president ever in the history of the US?
September 6th, 2007 at 1:49 pmFred Thompson is a joke and is just doing an acting role for a new movie, plus he’s getting paid. Now Petraeus can explain how 190,000 weapons, vest and bullets got in the has of the enemy under his control. What a Vice President again one that lies and gives the enemy what they neeed to continue to kill our soldiers. Fred was a spy for Nixon during Watergate and did nothing in the Senate as he said himself he is lazy. He looks like a dead man walking while Chris Matthews sees him as a love interest. I know the GOP would love to have Fred in the White House so they could continue having prostitutes for those GOP in need. Petraeus has shown he will lie for the White House while smiling in your face. We see thousands die as Petraeus says things are going good. 8 soldiers are killed while Petraeus says we’re winning. The Iraq people asked US soldiers to leave while Petraeus says we’re winning the hearts and mines of the Iraqi people. Thousand march in the streets of Iraq yelling US go home while Petraeus says they love us. Americans should take their heads out of the sand and see what’s really happening. Our troops have spoken out saying they can’t do any more and it’s time to come home yet paid Generals like Petraeus continue to lie in our faces.
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TRENTON, N.J. — FBI agents arrested a dozen people — 11 of whom are public officials — across New Jersey on Thursday in connection with a federal corruption probe, the U.S. Attorney’s office said…
The officials arrested include two state lawmakers, a mayor, three city councilmen, school board members and a city council staffer….
September 6th, 2007 at 1:52 pmThat’s right, there are ZERO 75-year olds, or older, sitting around the American Legion posts today who support Bush and this war — you youngsters have shown me the error of my ways in thinking differently — thank you so much for helping me see the light!!!
September 6th, 2007 at 1:53 pmDermott: Yes, the young people who happen to be Republican LOVE Ron Paul! His poll number (which faux news couldn’t tamper with because it was live) was 33% while even the frontrunners only hit 16% with some of the more obvious sickos only receiving 2% of the vote. Hannity looked perturbed at having to acknowledge this win by Ron Paul and made a total ass of himself in his interview with Paul by stating “now I’ll teach you something” - hah! As if that moron could teach anyone anything! He looked like a bloated buffoon last night. You know he’s getting very desperate when he has to make condescending remarks to an elder who is obviously more intelligent, more seasoned, and more historically astute than Sean Hannity will ever dream of being. Ron Paul handled it like a champ - he ignored the nitwit totally and then went on to negate the comments Hannity made one by one.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:53 pmOur troops have spoken out saying they can’t do any more and it’s time to come home yet paid Generals like Petraeus continue to lie in our faces
Neither the Repugs nor the Dems are listening. Both sides of the aisle are taking money from military machine and AIPAC.
And GW has shown them that they can just ignore public opinion.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pmCoorruption is everywhere–but New Jersey gave us Mayor Frank Hague of Jersey City. He’s who Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago aspired to be.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pmCoorruption is everywhere–but New Jersey gave us Mayor Frank Hague of Jersey City. He’s who Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago aspired to be
Yeah, well Texas gave us the Bushes. Nothing tops that.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:55 pmIt’s pathetic to see the right wing so desperate for a Daddy figure to protect them from terrah.
Apparently they don’t feel secure enough with Rudy. Was it the dress???
September 6th, 2007 at 1:55 pm“Vote Petraeus…He won’t betrayus”!
September 6th, 2007 at 1:58 pmYes, Jackie - let’s put Petreus on the block for the 190,000 missing weapons now! Petreus knows where his bread is buttered and will be scripted all the way by Bubble Boy which is why the people and Congress need to express their outrage that we are being made such fools of by Bush pretending that this guy has one ounce of credibility.
We all know he’s a Bush pimp. As for Freddie, the Spy, Thompson - if anyone would simply ask themselves how they would feel with seeing his armpiece, totally plastic wife sitting in the white house, the picture would quickly become a nightmare.
Saw the clip of Thompson announcing his candidacy and he never looked worse! Those bags have become suitcases under his eyes and even his pate has wrinkles all over it. What the heck happened to this guy? Guess that’s the miracle of stage makeup for television? He looks downright deprepit and scary.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:58 pm#48 Sorry, General Betray-us already has his moniker nationwide. Your little looney tune won’t fly.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:58 pmHere’s the deal GOPrs, if you agree to support troop reductions in Iraq, we’d loan you one of our fine candidates.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:00 pmVeritas - I think Hannity is worried about being outed next.
And Ron Paul is the only candidate able to clearly state the case for withdrawal now. Kucinich tries but he starts to do the double speak and wanders off into subordinate clauses that counter his previous words. Paul says it straight. I never thought I’d see the day when a Republican would stand for something decent.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:00 pmThey are all a bunch of self-absorbed jackasses. On the dem side you have a power crazed menopausal hack socialist riding the ridiculous coattails of her impeached husband, you have a semi-black freshman Senator who is running because he gave a good speech in 2004 and the media crazed nation buys into the “fake” - on the gop side you have a religious cultest so polished that even his shine is fake, a washed up senator (although most of the senators are washed up at this point) who believed in open borders until his popularity sank to that of Reed and Pelosi, and a crazed “libertarian” who get’s his kicks yelling like a blogger on national television. Rudy, the ex Mayor of Gothem is an interesting candidate although his needed right wing base can’t deal with his affairs of the heart and his 3 wives.
And now enters another actor. What the hell is going on with this country? Where are the true leaders? Where are those that are rooted in the founding principles of this great nation?
September 6th, 2007 at 2:00 pmI wonder if any of the republican presidential hopefuls are re-thinking in view of Paul’s standing ovation, and how he was rated higher then anyone else?
September 6th, 2007 at 2:01 pm#47 Daddy figure, indeed! But I heard that this guy is only 62 (Thompson). So much for actual age vs. effective age. His effective age is 82 for goodness sakes.
As for Betray-us, he’s already lied in our faces with a smile on his face - A bush requirement for the job. No one trusts a single word he says. He has zero credibility and his report will be trounced from New York to California. They’ll pull it apart at the seams. After all, when you’ve only accomplished 3 or 4 benchmarks of l8, you really don’t have much of a leg to stand on. The people don’t need Petreus’ report; we have the GAO info which is totally damning. The people can see for themselves that the number of deaths in Iraq have increased when comparing this calendar year with last year so what else do we need to know?? It’s O-V-E-R!
September 6th, 2007 at 2:02 pmHere’s the deal GOPrs, if you agree to support troop reductions in Iraq, we’d loan you one of our fine candidates.
Saville Row - you must be joking. The Dems don’t have any candidate who supports troop reductions except maybe Kucinich, who we can’t trust because of how he behaved the last Presidential go round.
Just read this article for chris’ sake
Congressional Dems Willing To “Compromise” On Iraq
By Greg Sargent - September 6, 2007, 10:58AM
It looks as if Dem Congressional leaders are laying the groundwork for the possibility that they’ll be willing to continue funding the Iraq War this fall without insisting on withdrawal timetables.
Today’s New York Times reports that Dem leaders are now willing to reach a compromise of sorts with Republicans in order to get the 60 votes — a compromise that would entail dropping the idea of a date certain for withdrawing most of the troops from Iraq.
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/ 2007/ 09/ _congressional_dems_willing_to_compromise_on_iraq.php
September 6th, 2007 at 2:03 pmDeleting posts again I see.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:04 pmJohn Sachs: Well said! And spot on! That’s precisely why I’m a Registered Independent. This “zoo parade” of candidates is becoming more like Saturday Night Live!
September 6th, 2007 at 2:04 pmThe entire political process is a joke now. When I saw a guy dressed as a snowman from a youtube screen asking a question in a democratic presidential debate, I knew we were done for at that point.
There is no sserious in any of this, like the NFL and NBA, politics has become an entertainment medium.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:06 pmdesperate? they like the general that didn’t quit after the idiot boy asked them to violate the Geneva Convention as well as the laws of our country.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:06 pmthey are trying for a coup
Wouldn’t you just love to know precisely which Repubs and Dems are involved in “war machine profiteering”?? Then we would know why they are spinning the drivel and voting the way they are. It’s all so sick at this point. Anyone with information about Congressmen making money from war profiteering??
September 6th, 2007 at 2:06 pmThe war thing is not profiteering - in their defense they know that a complete withdrawl will cause a greater genocide in Iraq than what happened in Cambodia after we left Vietnam, and noone wants that.
This is a true quagmire.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:08 pmWouldn’t you just love to know precisely which Repubs and Dems are involved in “war machine profiteering�?
It would be a shorter list to find out which ones are NOT involved.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:08 pmOldtree: I hear that those Geneva Convention violations and a planned nurembeg-style trial is in the works, thanks to the leak of some Red Cross investigation info. Can’t happen a moment too soon!
I think they’re taking it layer by layer beginning with The Shrub and The Dick. It will include members of the administration, the media (yes, the ones who intentionally used propaganda on the people to brainwash them on the war), and all members of Congress who voted “yes” to enable this abuse.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:09 pmEnough of the conspiracy crap and hate bull, the truth is that these people are professional politicians and will do anything to keep jobs. They are not smart enough to conspire to do anything - look at the guy in the toilet who was toe tapping to his iPod and now he is an outed homo for doing it.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:10 pmThe war thing is not profiteering - in their defense they know that a complete withdrawl will cause a greater genocide in Iraq than what happened in Cambodia after we left Vietnam, and noone wants that
First of all there was not genocide in Vietnam after we withdrew.
There was in Cambodia but that is because we bombed the crap out of Cambodia secretly and destroyed their internal society. Cambodia is a very different country than Vietnam. So it is NOT the same situation.
And Vietnam proves that in fact we need to withdraw today, not tomorrow, today.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:10 pmEnough of the conspiracy crap and hate bull, the truth is that these people are professional politicians and will do anything to keep jobs.
No conspiracy. These people are crooks, professional crooks if you like. The few that aren’t can be written on your hand.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:11 pmI disagree with that. If we were not there the stronger of the shitreligious types - probably the ones backed by Iran, would cut off the heads of everyone not like them. It will happen.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:11 pmJohn Sachs: Yes, it’s a quagmire and one that should never have occurred. You said it - not me. The Republicans are the ones who not only fostered this amoral, illegal occupation as Ron Paul handily told the world last night but who have continued to enable it.
Two wrongs never made a right. Continuing a quagmire only makes the quagmire grow. There is absolutely no way out of this. It’s not our business. It’s not our Civil War. We may have broken it (most americans as you recall were not in agreement with BushCo on this war or is your memory slipping just a wee bit??). In any case, just because we made one horrendous mistake in permitting The Chimp to destroy their country, kill innocent civilians, and tank our economy along with heinous loss of american lives which did not have to be, this is NO EXCUSE for continuing this massacre.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:12 pmCambodia was in check until we left - hell we had over 50,000 troops in Cambodia and Laos at one point.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:12 pmJohn Sachs: Vis-a-vis “war profiteering”, how do you spell Haliburton?? How do you spell Cheney’s “pension”?? How do you spell Carlisle Group and Oil??
September 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pmIf we were not there the stronger of the shitreligious types - probably the ones backed by Iran, would cut off the heads of everyone not like them. It will happen
Where is your proof to support your assumptions.
Actually the Shite in IRaq don’t want to be controlled by Iran. The stronger that is. I will find you some links to read so you can correct your distorted view that comes from the corporate media.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pm“Continuing the massacre” - are you implying that the US Military is over there masacring iNnocents?
September 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pmThis is probably coming from the $15 million that is paying Ari Fleischer. The minute that Betraeus’ “mission” is accomplished, doing his dog and pony show in front of Congress and trying to sell his report, the entire “Petraeus for President” movement will totally disappear forever. This is just a pathetically transparent attempt to hype his credibility before he delivers his load of already-discredited lies, admittedly rewritten by the White House, that they are calling the “Petraeus Report.”
September 6th, 2007 at 2:14 pmI guess if you’re trying to entice someone into becoming a prostitute you have to show them what you’re will to pay upfront.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:14 pmJohn Sachs: Hello out there…..Vietnam is a thing of the past. It’s a lesson we should have (and some of us did) learned. Evidently, the lust for oil money and control trumped any lesson garnered from Vietnam because it’s been repeated.
However, let’s get our heads out of ancient history, shall we? Contemporize yourself and deal with the facts as they are presented here. 3 of 18 aspects of the infamous “surge” have been achieved - this spells “not working” in my book.
What makes you think that more of the same will somehow magically turn into something “working”. Besides, what’s the goal here? It’s never been set by BushCo in 5 years?? What is the “mission”??
In the meantime while Bush dicks around for 5 years trying to define our “mission”, our young innocents are being led to their slaughter. I don’t call this success by any stretch of the imagination.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:15 pmI disagree with that. If we were not there the stronger of the shitreligious types - probably the ones backed by Iran, would cut off the heads of everyone not like them. It will happen.
Comment by John Sacks — September 6, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Bingo! There will be a pan-Muslim war the likes of which we have never seen!
September 6th, 2007 at 2:16 pmHaliburton - oh yea, the great hate dumping corporation for the anti-war crowd. Haliburton is like any large government contractor - and the government istself, inefficient and large and sometimes wasteful. Thing is, for the type of large construction projects like they are working on - and being able to do it overseas especially in the Middle East - they are probably one of the only, if not the only company qualified for such a venture. Look up their history - look at the work they have been doing in the Middle east for over a half century.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:16 pmWe secretly bombed Cambodia. That was Nixon’s ‘master’ plan on how to get the North Vietnamese to agree to withdraw. He kept threatening to use nukes in the region. His ‘crazy man’ approach didn’t fool the Vietnamese, they’d been fighting for their land for hundreds of years. Something the US generals and pols did not understand. They thought it would be a cake walk to clean up what the French couldn’t do because in their eyes the French were incompetent. Then of course we had the Tet offensive and the US learned why the French withdrew. But in typical bull headed loud mouthed dumb assed fashion the US generals and pols refused to acknowledge the truth. That they had no business ever being in Vietnam. Same damn situation now.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:16 pm#72 You’re a big boy - translate it for yourself.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:17 pmHallibuton
Halliburton stole billions. How can any truthful honest person not hate them.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:17 pmJohn Sachs: We know who you are. You don’t fool us for a moment but I just thought I’d give you enough rope to hang yourself.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:18 pmveritas, I didn’t make a statement supporting the war, I made a statement of understanding why the dems are not voting to cut off funding for the war and force withdrawl - and that is the genocide that could be inevitable if we were to leave today all at once.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:18 pmBingo! There will be a pan-Muslim war the likes of which we have never seen!
Nonsense. That is just the fantasy of ignorant neocons. Wake up and learn something and stop believing the bs shovelled to you nightly.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:18 pmStole billions? If you say so - I know how these government contracts work and get out of hand sometimes. I don’t think anyone stole billions there - just because a hated figure (Cheny) hated absolutely by the left (more than I have ever seen hate) was the CEO of that company they become the target of the conspiracies. Give that one a rest.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:19 pmComment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
I noticed that news item as well. We have actually started another one of those pre-summer-break manoeuvers.
You have to admit, however that any one of the DEM candidates would be a better choice than the GOPR candidates who make George W. Bush look like Mother Theresa.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:19 pmIf any entity has performed a treacherous manner it is Halliburton. Under Cheney’s direction they have stolen billions of taxpayer dollars, threatening the security of the US. What could be more treasonous?
September 6th, 2007 at 2:19 pmYou have to admit, however that any one of the DEM candidates would be a better choice than the GOPR candidates who make George W. Bush look like Mother Theresa.
I would vote for Ron Paul before I’d vote for Hilary, based solely on his Iraq position.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:20 pmSo the day after Fred Thompson declares his candidacy, the nuts are already looking for someone else? I think Fred Thompson and his high school bride make a cute couple. Don’t you? (pic)
September 6th, 2007 at 2:21 pmhttp://img520.imageshack.us/img520/857/fredpowercg1.jpg
They should just get it over with and endorse Mayor Quimby. He’s the ultimate tell-’em-what-they-want-to-hear candidate and he’s got more substance than all the other GOP candidates combined.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:21 pmI don’t think anyone stole billions there - just because a hated figure (Cheny) hated absolutely by the left (more than I have ever seen hate) was the CEO of that company they become the target of the conspiracies.
Now I know you are full of crap.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:21 pmJohn Sachs: The genocide which has been ongoing for eons in Iraq’s “civil war” although exacerbated by our presence, has absolutely nothing to do with us. Besides since when did Bush give a rat’s a$$ about “genocide”. He’s totally ignored the genocide in Darfur so don’t give me the genocide trip. Iraq has been a “civil war” and continues to rage on as a “civil war”. When we leave, it will still be a “civil war” unless/until the Iraqi People (get that: Iraqi people not americans) decide what they want to do.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:21 pmFear pushed us into Iraq and now fear keeps us there. How many will die before the losses are unacceptable? That is for the American people to decide. I, for one, won’t follow the current leader and his party because of the continual missteps, bungling of the conflict and outright lies that have been thrust upon us.
The republicans have lost my respect.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:21 pmNow I know you are full of crap.
Comment by Dermot
Site a link that is from a major news source.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:22 pmThe three groups may opt for Biden’s plan and decide to partition the country into thirds…..that’s not any of our business; it’s their country.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:23 pmFear pushed us into Iraq and now fear keeps us there. How many will die before the losses are unacceptable? That is for the American people to decide. I, for one, won’t follow the current leader and his party because of the continual missteps, bungling of the conflict and outright lies that have been thrust upon us.
The republicans have lost my respect.
Comment by hellinabucket
And how pray tell have the Dems managed to keep your respect. They have behaved exactly as the Repugs. They voted for this war, they continue to vote for its funding, and they plan to continue voting for its funding. WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE?
September 6th, 2007 at 2:24 pmNo conspiracy. These people are crooks, professional crooks if you like. The few that aren’t can be written on your hand.
Comment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Nailed it.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:24 pmJohn Sacks
September 6th, 2007 at 2:24 pmYou site one first. I’ve sited plenty so far and I’m tired of carrying water for people like you. Lift a finger and support even one of your ridiculous positions. The thing is you can’t.
They all have lost my respect at this point. The only one who has stayed true to his beliefs (and I don’t agree with him but I do respect him more than the other candidates) is Dennis Kucinich.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:25 pmGrasping at strawmen…
September 6th, 2007 at 2:26 pmRe: War profiteering
If my memory serves me correctly, just before Rummy resigned he alluded to billions of money being “lost” in Iraq. Anyone remember that? We still have no idea where that money is.
Add to that the fact that Haliburton is overcharged out the whazoo for supplies, military rations they provide, etc. We’re paying something like 5 X what things are worth. As I see it, if one’s pension is tied directly to the profits of a corporation (now with a Dubai headquarters. …ahem….we all know why they relocated out of the US, don’t we?), then their pension will grow as well. Cheney was the CEO for Haliburton - his pension comes from this company.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:26 pmI am not supporting Halliburton, I am just saying that they are a very large government contractor with an expertise in large scale overseas construction - there are very few companies that match that criteria and hence their contracts. There is no conspiracy there. Now that said, as a lrage government contractor with their own inefficiencies, they do take advantage (whether on purpose or not) of the inefficiencies of the US beuracracy no doubt.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:27 pmDermott and Sach: I’m with you totally on the group of sorry candidates out there. I think we’ll get a major “lift” in the Spring when Bloomberg announces his Independent candidacy. There’s talk of him taking Chuck Hagel as his running mate. Interesting dynamic and maybe one which will finally unite instead of divide.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:27 pmJohn Sacks,
I hope you realized that the crazed Liberals that post here are… well, crazed Liberals! So don’t take a statement like the following too personally, veritas is a paranoid 9-1-1 denier.
At this point, don’t expect any rational thought from veritas.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:27 pmThe same can be said for just about every large government contractor in the country.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:28 pmJohn: When the excesses and outright criminal activity of Haliburton over the last 5 years is investigated, it will make your hair stand on end. Why do you think they relocated to Dubai?
September 6th, 2007 at 2:28 pmGrasping at strawmen…
Comment by Technodaoist
Yes, I don’t think Kucinich can be trusted to follow through.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:28 pmComment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
You succeeded in dragging me into it….I would agree with you if Ron Paul has a strong viability for the nomination. I was basing my analogy more on the top-tier GOPrs.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:29 pm#19, Actually, Christie was on the original firing list until he leaked false charges against Menendez right before the last election. Now he has “no comment” on the matter. If you’re interested, you can find some details over at bluejersey.net
September 6th, 2007 at 2:29 pmBloomberg??? I have spent a lot of time in New York - before the clean up that Rudy did and now the dirty up that is going on up there under Bloomberg. I don’t think so.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:29 pmJohn Sacks
Which War Street journal op ed are you quoting from and why don’t you provide a source for your ignorant blatherings.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:29 pmSachs: Perhaps the same may be said for every other government contractor. It’s like price fixing in real estate commissions I guess. One does it and they all jump in. That still doesn’t make it legal or moral. The “everyone’s doing it mentality”.
What the people need to know is who the major shareholders of these war profiteering corporations might be? Senators? Congressmen perhaps??
September 6th, 2007 at 2:30 pm#19, Actually, Christie was on the original firing list until he leaked false charges against Menendez right before the last election. Now he has “no comment†on the matter. If you’re interested, you can find some details over at bluejersey.net
Thanks cynicalgirl.
Now John Sacks see how you could be doing something useful, like doing some research.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:31 pmJohn: When the excesses and outright criminal activity of Haliburton over the last 5 years is investigated, it will make your hair stand on end. Why do you think they relocated to Dubai?
Comment by veritas — September 6, 2007
I doubt anything will come to pass. They have been around like many large companies for many years. I see the little tables filled with crap that the real haters of Bush and Cheny are trying to push the Haliburton thing. Most of it just hot air.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:31 pmJohn Sachs: And I lived in New York so there! The people of NY were recently polled and asked which Mayor has done the better job for their state - Guiliani or Bloomberg? Guess what - overwhelmingly, the people of NY voted for Bloomberg - something like 5-1 so your NY perceptions are full of hot air.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:31 pmLOL! What a bunch of buffoons! By all means, run the yes-man.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:32 pmHaliburton IS being investigated right now so your premise is probably correcto-mundo.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:32 pmI would vote for Ron Paul before I’d vote for Hilary, based solely on his Iraq position.
Comment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
I would agree with you if Ron Paul has a strong viability for the nomination. I was basing my analogy more on the top-tier GOPrs.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:33 pmJohn Sachs: And I lived in New York so there!…
Comment by veritas — September 6, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
Dang, you are petty b%$@&, aren’t you!?!
September 6th, 2007 at 2:34 pmDermot, never said anything about the democrats in this regard. The difference lies (apt) in the amount of information that was given to Congress before going into Iraq.
Democrats aren’t clean but the republican strong arm tactics for the last 6 years has damaged this country. No oversight by the republicans allowed the one’s who pushed an agenda without checks and balances.
We are a nation of laws, not men. The republicans in power now thought otherwise and has brought us to the brink.
How many more bad votes have to follow the first bad vote before congress wakes up. The democrats have the smallest margins of majorities in both the house and the senate. They have brought up real change bills, real direction changing bills but have been blocked by the same group that will crash and burn with Bush.
This is hurting this country and the republicans are a large part of this. It has to be corrected for the United States to survive as a democracy where “We the People” still decide.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:34 pmSite the poll - I am interested. I could care less about either of them, I do know that the several 1000 trips I have made to New York over the past 20 years - I have seen first hand the decline, rise and new decline of the city. Bloomberg is definately preciding over a decline period in my view. BTW, I have met Bloomberg on several occasions - before he was mayor - probably one of the most offensive sexists I have ever had the pleasure to talk to. Its funny how the lefties like this guy in spite of that.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:34 pmComment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
I would agree with you if Ron Paul has a strong viability for the nomination. I was basing my analogy more on the top-tier GOPrs.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:34 pmI would vote for Ron Paul before I’d vote for Hilary, based solely on his Iraq position.
Comment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
I’d agree with you if Ron Paul has a strong viability for the nomination. I was basing my analogy more on the top-tier GOPrs.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:37 pmHere’s a perfect example of criminal behavior at work - pretending to be for a withdrawal to make the Dems look bad, while actually being against withdrawal - which all adds up to playing with people’s lives literally.
“Garrett, who has voted repeatedly against Democratic-sponsored measures to set timetables for bringing home troops from Iraq, said his signing the letter does not constitute a call for a troop withdrawal.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:37 pmNo, that wouldn’t make sense. He just wants to bring the troops home without withdrawing them.
Can’t get much more Orwellian than this. It took less than 24 hours to expose this “bipartisan” letter as a charade. I’m a sucker. They had me going for a while.”
http://www.bluejersey.com/frontPage.do
I practically live there - been there 1000’s of times over the past 20 years staying 2-3 days at a clip. I have seen the crappy city of the early 80’s and the rise of the city while Rudy was in charge and I see first hand the decline happening now - in the way of trash, and bumbs grafitti, etc. - so my observation is that Bloomberg is not handling the city as well as Rudy did.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:39 pmComment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
I’d agree with you if Ron Paul has a strong viability for the nomination. I was basing my analogy more on the top-tier GOPrs.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:39 pmThe difference lies (apt) in the amount of information that was given to Congress before going into Iraq.
You are splitting hairs to give the Dems a point - and surely Hilary had access to Bill’s intelligence from his Presidency, when Bill imposed sanctions on Iraq that yielded a million children’d deaths, which his Secretary of State found to be a necessary evil.
But what about since then??????? Since then and now that they know for sure they have done nothing to redeem themselves except take the bloody (literally) ball and run with it.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:40 pmAnyone who can parse out a difference between the Dems and Repugs on Iraq is either deluded or on some kind of drug.
It’s no longer even worth discussing because it is just so obvious that there is NO difference.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:42 pmIt’s no longer even worth discussing because it is just so obvious that there is NO difference.
Comment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
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Damn, boy!
You’re one un-discriminating mofo!
You might as well shut the hell up, hence forth!
September 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pm“Continuing the massacre†- are you implying that the US Military is over there masacring iNnocents?
veritas - you didn’t answer the question. Based on your statement, are you implying that the US Military is over there killing innocents as part of a strategy?
September 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pmmrp
September 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmgo f yourself
mrp
and while you are f’ing your self in the men’s room at Reagan airport - try coming up with an answer to the question
What is the difference between the Dems and Repugs on Iraq?
On Iraq? Instead of trying to shut down any dissent try defending whatever crazy assed position you might have.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pm“You have to admit, however that any one of the DEM candidates would be a better choice than the GOPR candidates who make George W. Bush look like Mother Theresa.”
I would vote for Ron Paul before I’d vote for Hilary, based solely on his Iraq position.
Comment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
I’d agree with you if Ron Paul has a strong viability for the nomination. I was basing my analogy on the top-tier GOPrs.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pmAt this point there is no real difference between them. I guess that is the approval rating for Congress is at an all time (I mean all time) low at 16%.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmComment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Not only is there a difference between DemocRATs and Republicans, but there is a difference between individual DemocRATs and Republicans!
Oh, but none are dumb enough to withdrawal the troops like you moonbats want!
September 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmI believe it when goes to Jay Leno Show…
September 6th, 2007 at 2:53 pmI agree that it would be stupid to withdrawl from Iraq mrp, apparently the dems do to yet they want to have their cake and eat it too. They won’t vote to end it yet they make statements about withdrawl in the press all the time. No respect for them. If they came into office and immediately voted to stop the funding and pull out - I would have been in complete disagreement with them but I would have respected them to do what they said they would do before the elections.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pmI’m no cheerleader for the Democratic party. Since the last election there has been several bills on the floor for the purpose of reducing our troop presence. This, I give credit to the Democrats. They don’t have a veto proof majority and are being blocked by Republicans that have pushed for a 60 vote minumum before cloture and have blocked final votes from coming up. (I may be wrong on the actual procedure on which the 60 vote is required but it’s still required).
Two differences in congress. Webb and Tester.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pmThey won’t vote to end it yet they make statements about withdrawl in the press all the time. - John Sacks
That’s just because they are pandering to the far-left. In reality, the idea for an immediate pull out is bad, and most people know that.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pmThat’s just because they are pandering to the far-left. In reality, the idea for an immediate pull out is bad, and most people know that.
Comment by mrp — September 6, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
Actually they did vote, Bush VETOED. But don’t let your PROPAGANDA LIES stand in the way of reality - Redneck Retard.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pmI agree John Sacks. There hasn’t been any strong voice and conviction on the Democrats side.
Another difference though. Oversight hearings. Something the republicans neglected for the last 6 years.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pmtrue.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pmI would vote for Ron Paul before I’d vote for Hilary, based solely on his Iraq position.
Comment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
I’d agree with you if Ron Paul has a strong viability for the nomination. I was basing my analogy on the top-tier GOPrs.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pmDamn, boy!
You’re one un-discriminating mofo!
You might as well shut the hell up, hence forth!
Comment by mrp — September 6, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Great advice, you should take it retarded Mr. Pee… Change your diaper, you’ve soiled your pants again, dumbass.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pmI agree John Sacks. There hasn’t been any strong voice and conviction on the Democrats side. Comment by hellinabucket — September 6, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
There have been plenty of strong voices, just no strong coverage other than on blogs…
September 6th, 2007 at 3:00 pmOversight hearings are more like witch hunts in today’s political environment. The GOP was guilty of the witchhunt thing in the 90’s when they got power the first time. Both parties are full of themselves and will do anything they can to destroy the other party regardless of what happens to the country.
September 6th, 2007 at 3:01 pmUnfortunately true John.
September 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pmComment by JakeIsATerrorist — September 6, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Quit your yappin’, liberal.
September 6th, 2007 at 3:13 pmI would vote for Ron Paul before I’d vote for Hilary, based solely on his Iraq position.
Comment by Dermot — September 6, 2007 @ 2:20 pm
And I’d agree with you if Ron Paul has a strong viability for the nomination. I was basing my analogy on the top-tier GOPrs.
September 6th, 2007 at 3:27 pmpeeee yooouuuuuu
Smells like wargasm
September 6th, 2007 at 3:27 pmBRING IT ON REPUBLICAN DEAD ENDERS WE WILL EAT GENERAL BETRAYUS FOR LUNCH.
Jonny sad sack - what you know about oversight in congress ain’t worth a bucket of warm spit. But I must say, in the realm of muck the gopers have us beat by a factor of 12 to 1. Call it the muck gap. It’s raining criminal republicans marge.
September 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmOuthouse; that was the chickenhawks you smelled.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:08 pmPetraeus for president! He won the war in Iraq. He “kicked ass” in the stupid, crass words of that great president, George the AWOL, draft dodger who was grounded for not appearing for his physical while he protected Texas from the missiles coming from Mexico. Missing from duty for a year–and here he is–saluting the great officers of the US military as if he was a real soldier who served in combat. His service was exactly like his presidency. Full of lies, laziness, and the belief he did not have to follow the rules and regs.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:18 pmI’m not sure if it was already brought up but,
this is nothing more than Rod Serling’s “Seven Days in May” coming true.
Sweet Jesus…
September 6th, 2007 at 4:19 pmThe same can be said for just about every large government contractor in the country.
Comment by John Sacks — September 6, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
Nice of you to excuse them all for treachery and outright theft. Nice of you to excuse the slaughter and mass-murder of innocents by ill-trained, under-armored, badly-led, underqualified US troops. Nice of you to apologize for the traitors who have stolen the government and shafted most Americans, laughing all the way to their offshore banks. Nice of you to accuse the government that is supposed to oversee this kind of rampant corruption and malfeasance of “witch-hunts”, when billions of dollars and thusands of weapons have disappeared withut a trace. Your patriotism disappeared with the money and weapons, and your good sense followed it.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:06 pm