Jones Report Reveals ‘Progress’ In Shia Ethnic Cleansing Campaign
Jones Report Reveals ‘Progress’ In Shia Ethnic Cleansing Campaign
Bush’s “surge” has escalated ethnic cleansing. Shiites have cleared the western half of Baghdad of thousands of Sunnis, who once dominated the area. Newsweek reports:
The surge of U.S. troops — meant in part to halt the sectarian cleansing of the Iraqi capital — has hardly stemmed the problem. The number of Iraqi civilians killed in July was slightly higher than in February, when the surge began. … Rafiq Tschannen, chief of the Iraq mission for the International Organization for Migration, says that the fighting that accompanied the influx of U.S. troops actually “has increased the [internally displaced persons] to some extent.”
The Iraqi Red Crescent Organization and the U.N. reported last month that the “number of Iraqis fleeing their homes has soared since the American troop increase began in February.” Despite the mass exodus of large numbers of Iraqis from conflict zones, the Iraqi health ministry reports there still have been more civilian deaths this month than in previous months.
The National Intelligence Estimate confirmed that where some “conflict levels have diminished,” it was due to ethnic cleansing. The new report by an independent 20-member military commission headed by Gen. James Jones puts this reality in a stark visual presentation. See the chart below (from p. 34 of the Jones report):
The chart reports some decreases in the intensity of “ethno-sectarian violence” in certain Baghdad districts (Note: This is based on military data). But where there have been decreases, they are due largely to the fact that “mixed Muslim” areas are being overrun by either Shia or Sunni enclaves.
The map above demonstrates that Shias have been gradually taking over all of Baghdad (noted by the green mass that now covers much of the city), wiping out Sunni communities that stood in their path. Center for American Progress analyst Brian Katulis estimated that Baghdad, which once used to be a 65 percent Sunni majority city, is now 75 percent Shia.
Next week, when Gen. Petraeus reports “progress” in reducing sectarian violence in Iraq, what he means is that there has been great “progress” in the Shia ethnic cleansing campaign.
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Kind of like the 'ethnic cleansing' the Nazis did in occupied Europe.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:52 pmC'mon Ho its progresss...of a sort.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:53 pmNew slogan:
September 6th, 2007 at 4:53 pmBaghdad. it's a very clean city.
this 'cleansing' is brought to you by courtesy of the United States.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:56 pmBaghdad, now with extra cleansed Sunni neighborhoods.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:59 pmAnd yet, part of Petraeus's strategy involves arming Sunni militants. I'm surprised the Shia are having this much success.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:59 pmThis is from a story from thecarpetbagger.com, from last September 11th:
"The Anbar province — one-third of Iraq — has been a nightmare for quite a while, but it’s reached the point in which one key Marine official quietly told his superiors the region is all but lost.
The chief of intelligence for the Marine Corps in Iraq recently filed an unusual secret report concluding that the prospects for securing that country’s western Anbar province are dim and that there is almost nothing the U.S. military can do to improve the political and social situation there, said several military officers and intelligence officials familiar with its contents."
Now, even Chuck Schummer concedes that conditions in Anbar are improving.
Shouldn't we take another look at all the other progressive predictions of defeat in Iraq?
September 6th, 2007 at 4:59 pmNo wonder progressive fuc*s are so insufficient when it comes to debate: hate-sites like Toilet Paper willfully brainwash them to believe talking points which are absolutely at odds with the facts. Take this article. Though Jones is attributed as the one "revealing" progress in the alleged Shiite ethnic cleansing campaign, his chart that TP mistakenly refers to actually shows nothing but A DROP IN ATTACKS from terrorists, militias, etc.. Using the most blackened deceit possible, TP somehow misconstrues this as "admitting" that the Shiites are up to ethnic cleansing. Go figure. Further, it's actually NewsWEAK mag that alleges this Shiite ethnic cleansing campaign, yet NewsWEAK deserves no benefit of the doubt because in 2005, it was the mag that accused US soldiers of flushing a Koran down the toilet. They were shamed when they had to retract this. Shame on these fanatics at TP for perpetuating more anti-American propaganda from NewsWEAK!
September 6th, 2007 at 5:01 pm#7...What about all those conservative predictions of victory?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:01 pmBetter to be dead or dying then to live under an abusive dictator.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:02 pm#6, don't worry, once the Sunnis out in Anbar feel they've conned us out of enough weapons "to fight al-Qaeda" (wink, wink), they'll launch an assault on Baghdad... or maybe just the Kurds in the north. Anywhere where they can control to get some oil (aka money).
It's one giant CF...
September 6th, 2007 at 5:02 pmIn general, when ethnic cleansing and the violence associated with it diminishes, it does not bode well for the ethnic group being 'cleansed'
September 6th, 2007 at 5:02 pmShouldn’t we take another look at all the other progressive predictions of defeat in Iraq?
Comment by paul — September 6, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
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Actually, Anbar has improved quite a bit. Mainly because so many soldiers have been moved out of there and into Baghdad. That allowed the Shia to almost completely annihilate the Sunnis in that region, and now there is no more reason to fight there.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:02 pm#
Better to be dead or dying then to live under an abusive dictator.
Comment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
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So when are we attacking Saudi?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:04 pmAdministration spokesman Jake D. announced: "Lalalalalalalalalalalala I can't hear you..."
September 6th, 2007 at 5:04 pmComment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
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You know how many nations I can name off the top of my head that live under an abusive dictator?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:05 pmBetter to be dead or dying then to live under an abusive dictator.
Comment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Agreed, when do we move against Bush?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:05 pmAh, yes......the "progress" will be due to "ethnic cleansing". So how does General Betray-us and the Chimp sleep at night?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:06 pm"The National Intelligence Estimate confirmed that where some “conflict levels have diminished,†it was due to ethnic cleansing. "
Let me guess, the NIE was written by a bunch of liberals?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:06 pmComment by Chris L — September 6, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
How bout China, no wait they are an ally and trading partner, UHHH Saudi Arabia, doh nevermind, Pakistan, wait on that one, Who else?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:06 pmSaudi is on the list. First we have to get to Iran, Syria, Liberia, Lebanon and Cyprus.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:06 pmWhy set legitimate benchmarks and make a mockery out of the american people if they are to be overlooked? I'd say that completion of 3 out of 18 can hardly be deemed "successful". Of course, in Bush-wellian terms, everything means the opposite - war is peace, up is down, wrong is right, and the moon is made of cream cheese!
September 6th, 2007 at 5:07 pm#7, the reason Anbar appears better is because we more or less made a deal with the devil. We're buying the Sunnis off with weapons. Once they feel like they have enough of our weapons, they'll be turned against us. They still really do hate us. You don't make someone like you by destroying their government, taking their power, taking their oil, then giving them guns...
It's not going to work. If you think it is, we should talk more in depth about this.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:08 pmSlow down Jake D. Could it be that your espousing the mantra of an imperialistic dictator with that cavalcade of countries to overtake? In your dreams, dude.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:08 pm#
Saudi is on the list. First we have to get to Iran, Syria, Liberia, Lebanon and Cyprus.
Comment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
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Please, please, PLEASE get the republicans to campaign on this statement! PLEASE!
September 6th, 2007 at 5:08 pmMoktada wept when he saw the breadth of his domain, for there were no more Sunnis to cleanse.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:08 pmProgress = Increased Ethnic Cleansing?? In whose book does that type of progress compute?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pmBetter to be dead or dying then to live under an abusive dictator.
Comment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
the Iraqis could hardly agree, especially the dead ones, under Bush. well put, shakey.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pmOh yes Jake D(umbf*ck), a few years ago my dead daughter was always afraid that their street soccer games would be halted when Sadam's tours would take him through our street. Thank Allah that she no longer has that to worry about.
I really do miss her smile and laughter though.
I appreciate your understanding and I am sure you will be glad to know that I will be visiting America very soon. And I will be bearing gifts. Please send your home address because I have very special gift for you.
Thank you....
September 6th, 2007 at 5:10 pmSaudi is on the list. First we have to get to Iran, Syria, Liberia, Lebanon and Cyprus.
Comment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
Love the "we" from a chickenhawk phony, jake.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:10 pmChris L what do you want? There already openly targeting Iran. And Syria has been on the hit list for years. Only a fool wouldn't know that they planned to attack these countries. Its not like the Democrats are doing anything to stop them. I forgot to add the gays, abortionists and atheists to that list. NO matter what country they may live in.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:11 pmChris L: The Reptards don't have a unified statement to run a campaign on. Last night's charade on Foch Snooze painted a very bleak picture of each candidate being a "one race horse"...everything from soup to nuts (and they are a bunch of nutcases)....and no cohesion whatsoever. I'd say that the GOP at this point in time has become a mere cipher. They're all running around willy-nilly trying to find something to defend but it's not working. Last night's charade was a total turn-off to the american people except for Ron Paul and the people rewarded him with the highest percentage of the night (33%) - much to the chagrin of Bush's propaganda machine, also called Fox News.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:12 pm#30 You've nailed that turdblossom! We know who he is in his panoply of monikers.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:13 pmThose are fake jakes posting as me.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:13 pm#
Chris L what do you want? There already openly targeting Iran. And Syria has been on the hit list for years. Only a fool wouldn’t know that they planned to attack these countries. Its not like the Democrats are doing anything to stop them. I forgot to add the gays, abortionists and atheists to that list. NO matter what country they may live in.
Comment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
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This is so precious. I don't even have to respond, I just want to hold this statement up for all to see. THIS is the republican party. THIS is their mentality. THIS is what they stand for. Thank you Jake.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:13 pmBetter to be dead than to live under an abusive dictator-comment by Jake Dumb
Bush is an abusive dictator, so so us a favor and die jocko.
AS for me, I prefer to overthrow the wannabe fuehrer.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:14 pmBush cultists oversaw the death of between 650,000 and a million Iraqis yet they are afraid that slaughter "might" happen in Iraq.
Delusional.
-GSD
September 6th, 2007 at 5:15 pmThose are fake jakes posting as me.
Comment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
The sound just like you. Are you sure?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:16 pmYes folks, buy the all new and improved "Surge", the household cleanser produced by contented Chimps. And remember, it's another product brought to you by ChimpCo, makers of fine catastrophic success.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:19 pmRun the numbers. If Baghdad was 5.5 million and 65% Sunni it means there once were 3.575 millon Sunni in Baghdad. Now the total is 25%. Assuming that the population of Baghdad is now 4 million (can it be more with the decline in Sunnis) it means the Sunni population is now down to 1 million Sunni's. Now that is serious ethnic cleansing (over 2.5 million) and all under the watchful eye of American troops.
As I have been saying, most of the blood bath has already happened. Shouldn't deaths be down substantially if the Sunni population has decreased by over 2/3? It's getting difficult to find Sunni's to kill so the fighting has turned to Shia on Shia.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:21 pmturned to Shia on Shia.
Watch out your going to get the trolls all excited.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:25 pmFor the record, I am not an administration spokesman.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:27 pmThe sound just like you. Are you sure?
Comment by dbadass — September 6, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
I didnt say I disagreed with the fake jake. Just saying that its not me.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:28 pm#
For the record, I am not an administration spokesman.
Comment by Jake D. — September 6, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
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For the record, noshit? really?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:35 pmFurthermore for the record there are literally thousands of Jakes in the U.S. Possibly more in the Republican party. But I'm a Liberarian for those not on the "Ignore List".
September 6th, 2007 at 5:39 pmA surge in rebuilding efforts made the difference. Roadside attacks are down in Anbar because US rebuilding is funding the insurgency via kick-backs for safe passage for contractors.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:49 pmBut I’m a Liberarian for those not on the “Ignore Listâ€.
Comment by Jake D — September 6, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
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I'm looking at a world map now. Where is Liberaria?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:49 pmHi there everyone. This is Billy's mom but you know Billy as Jake. He is ashamed to use his real name.
This is the first time I have written, but feel the need to confess and explain why my baby boy is so very f*cked up.
You see, when Billy's dad beat me up and left for the last time, I had no money and had to resort to the oldest profession to keep food on the table (and a little crack for Billy and me). Billy was so sweet, he would clean me up for the next client, if you catch my drift. I let him do it because he seemed to like it, and his little tongue was so gentle. Especially after some truck driver hit me from behind.
Anyway that started his career as a rim job expert in airport bathrooms.
Maybe that will help you understand the psychosis you are dealing with when you see him post here. If I find the courage, I will have him committed, because I think he will be happier. Until then, please put up with his sh*t.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:50 pmWhen you post something Jake, it's read by all. Including those of us on the valued "Ignore List".
I think he means Librarian.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:51 pmWe should start with our own lil' dick tatertot!!!
tempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis
September 6th, 2007 at 6:01 pmBut I’m a Liberarian for those not on the “Ignore Listâ€.
Comment by Jake D
What is this ignore list? I've heard him refer to it many times.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:04 pmRuby Redcheeks,
We are supposed to be better than that. You add nothing to the discussion, let alone the progressive cause when you post crap like this.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:04 pmThe ignore list is an invention by Jake that shows all the posters that he believes have insulted him in some way. Jake would debate for short periods and then resort to ignorance. When that ignorance is pointed out he get's insulted.
Ruby will also qualify for the ignore list.
Mostly, it's Jake thinking more of himself than is warranted.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:14 pmI agree Dallas. Consideration should also be given to the 2 million plus Iraqis that have fleed the country putting larger strains on the surrounding countries.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:17 pmComment by hellinabucket
I was kidding. Jake put me on his list the first day he was here. I'm just saying that since he answers folks directly, even after putting them on the list, it actually doesn't exist.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:18 pmIt's been a long day and I should have read the poster. You've seen thousands of "anyone not on the ignore list......"
Jake is a delightful, misguided narrow minded troll that allows true posters here to sharpen their wits if they care to walk down that path.
Just read this on Brad Blog:
"ZOGBY POLL: 51% Want Congressional Probe into 9/11 Actions by Bush and Cheney"
Looks like a mandate to me.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:25 pmGive it up TP. Your hero, Bill Clinton, just told Larry King the Surge has been a success and needs to continue throughout the rest of Iraq.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:33 pm#43 Jake D(umb). If you do not disagree with Jake D., what's the difference?
As Mr. Spock would say: " A difference which makes no difference, IS no difference."
September 6th, 2007 at 6:35 pmNow if we could just get all the GOP scum to move to Florida and then build a fence that would be progress.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:39 pmGive it up TP. Your hero, Bill Clinton, just told Larry King the Surge has been a success and needs to continue throughout the rest of Iraq.
Comment by steed — September 6, 2007 @ 6:33
Maybe post the whole quote Steed instead of cherry picking. Your silly attempt to derail was already debunked on the last thread. You should give it up, you sound like a broken record.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:43 pmHuh. Who knew MSNBC was reading me? I said this very thing days ago.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:48 pmPurely from a design and information standpoint, if anyone else here ever plans on presenting a demographic map defining, in this case, ethnic distribution, do not differentiate choose varying shades of blue to distinguish one from the other. Pick another color, they're free.
This is particularly true if you suspect (or know) that the graphic is going to appear on a computer monitor, where color variations are subject to great distortion.
It speaks poorly of government employees, frankly.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:48 pmGive it up TP. Your hero, Bill Clinton, just told Larry King the Surge has been a success and needs to continue throughout the rest of Iraq.
Comment by steed — September 6, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
I can see the retarded train has circled the block and left the same ignorant t*rd in this thread that was already squished. You little f*ckers never take the time to vette your sources, do you dumbass?
September 6th, 2007 at 6:56 pmThis report destroys TP arguments that Iran and Syria are not fueling the violence in Iraq:
"Overall, the factional tension and violence within Iraq is fed by the slow and disappointing pace of national reconciliation; intensified by the inflow of foreign fighters, terrorists, and weapons; and promoted by neighboring countries, such as Iran and Syria. These two countries and certain non-state entities are generally acknowledged to be pursuing sectarian, political, and security objectives within Iraq and providing manpower, weapons, and support to proxy fighters and militia. Their activities substantially aid and contribute to factional discord, violence, and instability within Iraq."
Instead TP ignores the findings and blames the U.S.
September 6th, 2007 at 7:37 pmThis report also destroys TP's marginalization of Al Qaeda's roll in the indiscriminate murder and violence against Iraq citizens:
"Al Qaeda in Iraq is responsible for approximately 90 percent of the suicide bombings in Iraq and the kidnapping of more than 250 foreign workers."
Instead, TP ignores the this report and finds a way to blame the U.S.
September 6th, 2007 at 7:42 pmInstead TP ignores the findings and blames the U.S.
Comment by steed — September 6, 2007 @ 7:37 pm
Yeah, maybe because you whiny b!tches keep claiming this, but every time you 'detain' someone supposedly doing it - they WEREN'T!! Your 'credibility gap' is as big as the gap in Condi's teeth!
Instead, TP ignores the this report and finds a way to blame the U.S. Comment by steed — September 6, 2007 @ 7:42 pm
Mmm..., how would they KNOW that when the suicide bomber is DEAD? That's called a 'speculation' - dumbass!
September 6th, 2007 at 7:46 pmName calling isn't argument. You don't have one, do you!
September 6th, 2007 at 7:54 pmName calling isn’t argument. You don’t have one, do you!
Comment by steed — September 6, 2007 @ 7:54 pm
Neither is smearing, and putting words in the mouth of others. You don't have an argument, do you broken steed...
September 6th, 2007 at 8:15 pmIsn't ethnic cleansing frowned on by the civilized world?
September 6th, 2007 at 9:01 pmIsn’t ethnic cleansing frowned on by the civilized world?
Comment by theswan — September 6, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
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Yup. That's why the Coalition is straightening out the savage Arab Muslims in Iraq!!!
September 6th, 2007 at 9:24 pm"They are greeting us with flowers and the oil is paying for it all. They are greeting us with flowers and the oil is paying for it all. They are greeting us with flowers and the oil is paying for it all. Am I back in Kansas yet", asked W.
September 6th, 2007 at 10:17 pmSaudi is on the list. First we have to get to Iran, Syria, Liberia, Lebanon and Cyprus.
Comment by Jake D — S
You know, any country with brown people that aren't christo-fascists.
September 6th, 2007 at 10:23 pm#
Isn’t ethnic cleansing frowned on by the civilized world?
Comment by theswan — September 6, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
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Yes, but cheered on by GOP.
September 6th, 2007 at 10:24 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/goldsmith-politics-hiring/#comment-4059371
toasterhead = traitor
September 6th, 2007 at 11:42 pmShort explanation. If I kill everyone, the murder rate will fall to zero as there is no one else left to kill.
September 7th, 2007 at 12:06 am>Instead, TP ignores the this report and finds a way to blame the U.S.
Only one entity is allowed to take the blame for this mess? or any mess? Whose to blame when someone gets pregnant accidentally?
Let me guess, the teacher who taught the kids about condoms?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:18 amMy only question to Jake D. is, "why are you waisting your time on this site, why aren't you fighting the "bad guys" in Iraq (i'm sure you're under 41)?"
September 14th, 2007 at 5:02 pm