Comments on: 168,000:

By: Russ Weiss

Russ Weiss — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:35:58 +0000

So, the brigade that Petreaus says might be coming home soon isn’t even in Iraq yet?

By: Tobey Tall

Tobey Tall — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:14:18 +0000

168,000 green bottles sitting on the wall

and if 1 IED explodes there will be 167,990

bottles sitting on the wall

By: celtic cynic

celtic cynic — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:58:14 +0000

Those poor 168,000 kids. They’re under a death sentence, altruism be damned!!

By: zoot

zoot — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:29:06 +0000

gee, a little more surgin’ and the neonuts will be nearing the level they fired Shisenski for.
.

By: hellinabucket

hellinabucket — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:56:02 +0000

Troll, we are more alike than you’d think.

By: Krazny

Krazny — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:52:20 +0000

Not likely to happen troll. To many people are into the partisan politics, to much money, to much power, to much glory. Any independent party would end up being subverted by special interest money within a few years.

By: Troll

Troll — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:39:01 +0000

Iâ€™d also welcome abolishing signing statements.
Comment by hellinabucket â€” September 7, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

I agree. But we the people need to stop playing their partisan games and elect reps from either party or a third who are dedicated to a strict interpretation or we are all screwed.

By: hellinabucket

hellinabucket — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:35:17 +0000

I agree that we need to return to a strict interpretation of the constitution. I don’t agree that this can now be declared a war because of funding from democrats. It was the AUMF that gave the president the authority, not a declaration of war. I don’t have the AUMF in front of me now but it was not a declaration of war. The difference may have something to do with Armed combatants and how to treat the prisoners.

I’d welcome adhering to the constitution. I’d also welcome abolishing signing statements. Something that this president has done more thany all the previous presidents combined. He is skirting the law in this area as well.

By: Troll

Troll — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:31:51 +0000

that should have been “trod”.

By: Troll

Troll — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:29:29 +0000

When was a war declared?

Comment by hellinabucket â€” September 7, 2007 @ 3:14 pm

When the dems funded the war they implicitly declared it licit. This policy is unconstitutional as far as I am concerned but the precedent has caused this to be the de facto law of the land which is why we need to return to a strict interpretation of the constitution which both parties have treaded heavily upon.

By: hellinabucket

hellinabucket — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:14:18 +0000

Troll, Is the whole country as static as Bush is? Is there a majority in Congress to accomplish any of the suggestions you made? When was a war declared?

I’m very critical of all politicians that aren’t taking a sobering look at Iraq. You ignore the subject matter of this thread but come in to cut down. You may have a valid point or two but you don’t acknowledge the outright failings of this President. You fail to acknowledge the unprecedented power grab and the missinformation that led us to Iraq but readily jump on other arguments that may or may not have merit.

Stand up for what you believe in the context of the subject of this thread and I’ll accomodate you on other subjects. Ignore the thread’s subject and you open yourself to any and all attacks against your posts.

By: Jones

Jones — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:13:49 +0000

Possibly a stupid question – so if there’s already a plan to raise the troop levels to 172,000 then drop them to 160,000, what’s to stop the Republicans from pointing at the 12,000 troops that are already coming home and calling that a troop reduction?

By: Troll

Troll — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:13:01 +0000

Comment by hellinabucket â€” September 7, 2007 @ 2:58 pm

It takes soldiers to fight wars so the troop numbers are not all that concerning.

Don’t assume that because we trolls don’t agree with you we agree with the President. Many of us think the libtards and their leaders are as stupid if not more so than Bush.

By: Tired Of Fighting

Tired Of Fighting — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:10:10 +0000

Ladies and Gentlemen the only “TROOP” (I hate that phrase/word, WE ARE SOLDIERS-Army, AIRMAN-Air Force (My Daughter included), SAILORS-Navy, MARINES) cuts will be those units that have already been EXTENDED by 3-6 months.

It will be natural rotations that will be viewed and reported as “TROOP” cuts and the so-called liberal media (WHO?) will report that the POTUS as delivered on his promise to bring “TROOPS” home by such in such date. And all of the Repuppetcans will rejoice and all of the hapless Democrats will go back to shutting the ___ up.

3rd Brigade from Fort Lewis has been in Iraq since May of last year and should be home by now, we replaced them in 2004 and my old Brigade now in Germany will be replacing them again on Oct, so there will be some “TROOPS” coming home, but there will some leaving home too.

So Mr. Bush and Sen. er Gen. Petraus will claim that “events on the ground” have allowed us to do this.

BTW

The “surge” was to secure Baghdad not Fallujah, yea thats right ll of the sudden we dont call it that it’s now called by its Province, just like we dont call it Mosul anymore it’s the Ninevah Province, thats just to further keep the un-informed, ill-informed and to keep the enablers drinking from the Jim Jones wing of the party. . WE have been bombing Fallujah since 2004, I was there during Operation Bobcat Fury”, and ANBAR PROVINCE was leveled just as Bill O’Reilly said it should be. SO hell yea there is “progress” there because there is nothing and noone left. If you look closely everytime they show the market you see the SAME people there. Wait and see how long it takes to see “progress” in Baghdad. EVER, not FOREVER but EVER.

RIP
SGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq

By: tom baker

tom baker — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:04:38 +0000

i don’t think that number includes all the mercenaries we have over there. how many is that? another 150K or so, I thought I’d heard.

righties are all in broad-daylight psychotic break states right now, like Manson Family members – it’s good for the kids to see now how mean and crazy they really are, so we can all enjoy 3-4 decades free from their frenzied and reckless influences.

By: Troll

Troll — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:04:28 +0000

The dems should impose the draft or impeach or force withdrawl like they were allegedly elected to do but haven’t. Bush was re-elected in the midst of this war obviously the electorate supported his actions. Bush is doing what he was elected to do, the dems should do the same. Maybe you all should be a little more critical of them.

By: hellinabucket

hellinabucket — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:58:44 +0000

No real takers from the side of the president to discuss the number of troops, their length of time in theater and the hired guns we pay in Iraq?

Why would your opinion be worth shit on any other subject if you can’t stand by it on this?

By: upside00

upside00 — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:55:58 +0000

mr. p is on the meth again, winding the brain stem around his take on reality. Look out N. Virginia, this could get ugly, fast and not contained in his dorm room either!

By: Krazny

Krazny — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:52:13 +0000

Bush reminds of a junky who keeps saying they will get clean, or a gambler who says they will stop gambling, right after this one thing, cause it is a sure thing ya know. But after that no more, really, honest.

What an idiot.

By: michaelIsRetarded

michaelIsRetarded — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:51:30 +0000

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