Graham: We’re ‘Kicking Ass’ In Iraq, Political Reconciliation Likely ‘Within Weeks’
Graham: We’re ‘Kicking Ass’ In Iraq, Political Reconciliation Likely ‘Within Weeks’
Yesterday, prominent Iraq war proponents were featured at a panel at the American Enterprise Institute, including Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), a vocal supporter of President Bush’s escalation.
Graham cheerfully explained that in his eight visits to Iraq, he has never come back as optimistic as after his most recent one. Graham claimed political reconciliation is on the horizon and is now “all over the country.”
Within the next weeks, not months, there will be a major breakthrough on the benchmarks regarding political reconciliation. And after the last two weeks of being a reservist, you could see Sunnis and Shia and Kurds taking a second look at Iraq.
Watch a compilation of Graham’s remarks:
Using lofty phrases like “the surge has worked” and “the people are war weary,” Graham conveniently dodged empirical evidence to back up his assertion of reconciliation at “breakneck speed.”
Graham has placed himself at odds with every observer — including the Bush administration — of the Iraq war, all of whom see little to no political progress in Iraq:
Gen. Petraeus: “[T]angible political progress…has not worked out as we had hoped.” [9/7/07]
White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten: “[D]isappointment is the right word for…the Iraqi federal government.” [9/5/07]
Government Accountability Office: Iraqi government “has met only one of eight political benchmarks.” [9/4/07]
Congressional Research Service: “[T]he Iraqi government is in essential collapse.” [9/6/07]
National Intelligence Estimate: The government “will become more precarious over the next six to 12 months.” [8/23/07]
With Shi’as composing 75 percent of Baghdad today and 85 percent of the Iraqi national police, there is no near prospect for political reconciliation.
Despite these realities, Graham concluded his remarks at AEI — to loud applause — proclaiming that the United States is “kicking their ass,” a statement sure to make Bush proud.
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Heckuva job!
September 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pmWhat’s with the Republican obsession with ass lately?
September 7th, 2007 at 3:45 pmThrough the Looking Glass… Darkly
September 7th, 2007 at 3:45 pmThis could be a perverse example of a Republican actually using the war to divert attention from tabloid like scandals that are breaking. I’ve seen his name in several places lately and he really needs to appear macho right now.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:48 pmHey, TP erased my comments!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 3:48 pmI suspect it’s not what you said. It’s how you said it.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pmSen. Graham will be the next “outed” Senator.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pmGraham Cracker, Loser – Liar – Laughable
September 7th, 2007 at 3:50 pmIt’s the daily newsletter from the writers of Think Surrender. Featuring hard-hitting censorship and suppression of facts you can’t find anywhere else.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:51 pmAt least this time we’ll only have to wait weeks instead of months for ANOTHER example of rt-wing incompetence and lack of foresight.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pmSenator Graham, a card carrying fairy.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:53 pmGraham, Gannon & Craig…
Where’s Foley when you really need him late at night?
September 7th, 2007 at 3:53 pmgoddamn im so glad i dont live in south carolina…. i feel sorry for you people.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:53 pmLast Throes…
September 7th, 2007 at 3:54 pm‘Kicking Ass’ in Iraq was a misprint.
Graham Cracker should have said, ‘We’re poking ass in my office’.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmGraham got the message from the his men’s room friends. Tip Tip touch toe and here’s what you have to say now go.
These guys are becoming funny as hell and it’s now a joke that people have to just laugh at.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pmDo you think Graham is dead wrong? Refute those who might agree with him at The Coin
September 7th, 2007 at 3:57 pmKicking ass? more like kissing ass
September 7th, 2007 at 3:57 pmMooslem nutrag
Isn’t that what Craig wears under his trousers when frolicking in the men’s room?
September 7th, 2007 at 3:58 pm“kickin’ ass” ? … the latest talkin’ point?
September 7th, 2007 at 3:58 pm.
Yes, Lidsey, and the mu-f’ing moon is made of_ Green Cheese (TM)_, I will
September 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pmsurely pick the winning PowerBall numbers tomorrow, and you morons will get another Republi-SCUM president in ‘08.
Now run off to the local ‘hot’ mens’ room with Mitch and Larr-ry and leave the adults alone.
If the Moosleem nutrags decide to blow themselves up in jealousy, too bad for them
Spoken like a true Idahomosexual.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:59 pmGraham was against the war before he was hermaphroditic.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:00 pmI suppose if you’re going to toe the party line, you may as well toe it all the way to Hell.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:00 pmBib Laden just praised American Progressives!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pmHe lambasted the Corporate interest that runs America.
He’s on our side!
22, Dermot,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pmWould that make Imholte Oklahomphobic?
Kissing ass and toeing the line
A hard day’s work in the Reagan airport men’s room
September 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pmOver four years ago people like Graham were saying it’d be a cakewalk, it (insurgency) probably wouldn’t last six months (wasn’t that DR?). Like the boy who cried wolf these delusional people have no credibility. Why do people continue to believe these rosy predictions?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pm26 = Oklahomophobic. (Tough word!)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pmKicking ass? more like kissing ass
Comment by Dermot — September 7, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
Apparently Osama agrees with you. If the interpretation Shep Smith is reading is correct, Osama’s massage could have been written by the regular lib posters here. It’s pretty much word for word the lib line. He even likes your hero Noam. Libs parroting Osama’s line, imagine that! ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:02 pm30,
And that would make you Osamophobic.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:03 pm29
I believe the correct term is Oklahomosexual.
Oklahomophobic is the alter ego.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmGreat! Let’s declare victory and get out.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pmComment by upright left — September 7, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Osama also wants everyone to convert to Islam, not going to happen anytime soon. So I guess the right won’t be able to celebrate any sort of alliance between the left and Bin Laden.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:05 pmLindsey Graham, tip tap toe tapping while kissing ass.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:05 pm30,
And that would make you Osamophobic.
Comment by Zimzone — September 7, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Ohhh, stinging rejoinder, zimmy. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmIs Lindsay a boy or a girl, I am confused?
Anyway, the main water carrier for BushCo, whatever the sexual persuasion.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmOsama’s massage could have been written by the regular lib posters here
Osama’s massage? Oops. Your epihomosexual is showing
By the by, Shep Smith He’s an outed homosexual.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmthese guys can say all they want to say, but the fact of the matter is:
civilian deaths are UP, not down.
and how can one PREDICT a “major political breathrough” in “weeks”?
guys is off his rocker crazy nuts
September 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmI’ll convert to Islam.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:06 pmIf it means peace why not!
Osama is a Progressive!
He praised Chomsky!
Long live the Islamic-Progressive alliance!
Comment by upright left — September 7, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
“Shep Smith”??? Wasn’t he the fourth Stooge, after Curly left Moe and Larry?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:07 pmAs usual Graham has ass on the mind
September 7th, 2007 at 4:07 pmand of course, he doesn’t take any follow-up questions…..wouldn’t want to face reality, would he?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:08 pmcaption contest;
“I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Wait a minute, that’s the light of an oncoming train. Yikes!”
September 7th, 2007 at 4:08 pmI’ll convert to Islam.
If it means peace why not!
Osama is a Progressive!
He praised Chomsky!
Long live the Islamic-Progressive alliance!
Comment by George — September 7, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Fuk YOU, Traitorous Leftist!!!!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:08 pmBin Laden praised Chomsky!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:08 pmHe’s not that bad.
He’s offering peace, let’s take it!
Graham would say anything to prove he is 28% moron. Bootlicking wasted space.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:09 pmSorry, LEFTIES!!!!
The Islamics are losing in Iraq!!!
YOU lose again!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:09 pmWith Shi’as composing 75 percent of Baghdad today and 85 percent of the Iraqi national police, there is no near prospect for political reconciliation.
Huh, not even a 1% chance? Not even that? The TP Wise Ones have now declared that there is no chance whatsoever…huh…I had no idea the TP staff was composed of Iraqi politicians.
Next thing you know, TP will post a war poll and get the number backward. NOOOO, that cant happen.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:09 pm38 – By the by, Shep Smith He’s an outed homosexual.
Is that why he wears more makeup than Leona Helmsly?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:09 pmComment by Krazny — September 7, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Heh, heh, heh, I thought the rest of the message would escape ya, krazy! Sucks to learn your views parallel the views of Osama when you’ve had such a good time pointing out similarities to righties, eh bud. Osama the progressive. Well, except for that gay stuff. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:10 pmand of course, he doesn’t take any follow-up questions
Doesn’t want to be rear-ended
September 7th, 2007 at 4:10 pmMaybe Grahamn thinks that in Iraq, warring parties seek reconciliation by tapping their feet in mens rooms.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:11 pmIs that why he wears more makeup than Leona Helmsly?
Comment by Zimzone — September 7, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
And he looks just as dead!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:11 pm“I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Wait a minute, that’s the light of an oncoming train. Yikes!†-Comment by Uncle Ho
Sorry, due to Bush budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:11 pmBrother Osama is telling you White Devils to follow the path of Allah!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:12 pmListen to him.
He’s offering peace!
This is great news from Sen. Graham about the success of America and our troops!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:12 pma republican talking about ass again…. i think lindsey’s in the market for some tap shoes…. tap tap tap!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pmIf Iraqis don’t care to take part in that win-spirit
Yeah. The Iraqis have got your win-spirit all right. And they’re ready for you to bend over and spread em.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pm38 – By the by, Shep Smith He’s an outed homosexual.
Is that why he wears more makeup than Leona Helmsly?
Comment by Zimzone — September 7, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Then you should be one of his biggest fans, since progs are such promotors of homosexuality. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pm“I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Wait a minute, that’s the light of an oncoming train. Yikes!†-Comment by Uncle Ho
Or maybe it is the light shining in his closet to out him from the secret membership in the Log Cabin Repugs.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pmto righties, eh bud. Osama the progressive. Well, except for that gay stuff. ;)
Comment by upright left — September 7, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
Anyone have a wingtard to English dictionary? I am not really sure what he is getting at.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pmToday’s GOP is a party of asshats !
September 7th, 2007 at 4:13 pmpromotors of homosexuality
Repugs = practicers of homosexuality looking for a bathroom stall
September 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pmIf you’re looking for a Republican congressman, check the men’s room stalls first.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pmIs Shep Smith Lindsay Graham’s Son?
Do they both have corporate makeup sponsors?
Is it Bill O’Really?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pmthe light at the end of the tunnel is being obscured by a gerbil
September 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pmAnyone have a wingtard to English dictionary? I am not really sure what he is getting at.
Comment by Krazny — September 7, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
It’s either “Would you like to come over to my place bouncy bouncy?” or “My hovercraft is full of eels” but I’m not sure which.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:15 pmIs Shep Smith Lindsay Graham’s Son?
He’s not heavy, he’s his brother
September 7th, 2007 at 4:16 pmWhy does the left want to surrender to Islam?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:17 pmWill Lindsay be moving into Craig’s orifice now?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:17 pmI am not really sure what he is getting at.
Comment by Krazny — September 7, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
September 7th, 2007 at 4:17 pmOh, well let me enlighten you then, buddy. Of course you’ve never seen any posts here pointing out that osama dislikes homosexuality, alcohol and drug use, adultery etc. just like conservatives. I’d rather share those values with osama than the littany I just heard that you share with him. Puts you squarely in his corner. ;)
upright; GOP = GAY OLD PERVERTS. Craig, Foley. Need I continue to list others?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pmand how can one PREDICT a “major political breathrough†in “weeks�
Maybe he used the same method that the dems have been using to PREDICT the contents of the yet to be released Petraeus report.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:18 pmIs Shep Smith Lindsay Graham’s Son?
He’s not heavy, he’s his brother
Comment by Dermot — September 7, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
I know you’re all thinking Dermie is trying to avoid my point, but nothing could be further from the truth. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:19 pmSen. Graham. I do hope you are correct. I will be holding you to your words and will point this out to you in the weeks to come if your words aren’t true.
The absence of any proof to back this up doesn’t make me want to believe the Sen.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:19 pmBin Laden is the man.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:19 pmA powerful Black Man who’s forces are defeating the White man!
Hey he praised you Progressives!
Thank him.
You’ll be spared when the armies of Islam conquered!
My late constituent Tammy Faye Baker Miesner taught me everything a modern girl wants to know about make-up.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:19 pmWill Lindsay be moving into Craig’s orifice now?
No but he is in his sphincter of influence.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:19 pmCome to think of it, Graham looks a lot like ‘Pigboy’ in Seinfeld
September 7th, 2007 at 4:20 pmComment by upright left — September 7, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
Not really despite your deliberate obtuseness. Osama doesn’t like all of those things he talked about, not because he thinks people should leave free, but because he sees them as interfering with Islam. He would prefer a world wide Islamic theocracy. I dislike corporations for lying cheating and stealing. A little different.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:20 pmupright left wants to share homosexuality, alcohol and drug use, and adultery with Osama??
Really now upright, what makes you think Osama will let you blow him? Much as you would like to.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:21 pmKrazny,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:22 pmBin Laden supports us Progressives.
He’s standing up to the Corporate Interests!
He’s on our side!
Let’s embrace him!
Mitch McConnell is kicking my ass right now…ouch
September 7th, 2007 at 4:22 pmWill Lindsay be moving into Craig’s orifice now?
No but he is in his sphincter of influence. -Comment by Dermot
Zing! *applause*
September 7th, 2007 at 4:22 pmupright; GOP = GAY OLD PERVERTS. Craig, Foley. Need I continue to list others?
Comment by Uncle Ho — September 7, 2007 @ 4:18 pm
Dang you’re right, ho. All the gays are repubs…. Oh, no wait, most of ‘em are lefties. Nevermind. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:22 pmI really respect Bin Laden for what he said.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:23 pmI hope he posts here on Think Progress.
I really respect his insight!
Comment by Rasheed X — September 7, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
OBL is Arab
September 7th, 2007 at 4:23 pmSpeaking of Lindsay’s sphincter of influence – the AEI is the primary pustule of neocon nonsense
September 7th, 2007 at 4:23 pmfack meant to say live free, not leave free. My bad.
Looks like Mr. P or perhaps Dean, one and the same anyway, hijacked Geralds Name.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:23 pmOoh I forgot to add:
“Not that theres anything wrong with it”
Unless your a Repuppetcan of course.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmDean CT, you’ve got so much stupid you want to share.
Rasheed, it hurts to know that your ignorance has been allowed to fester.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmReally now upright, what makes you think Osama will let you blow him? Much as you would like to.
Comment by nanlichi — September 7, 2007 @ 4:21 pm
Nor is lich trying to avoid the point. Progs always address the issue. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmWhy does the left want for normal Americans to marry Islams by the bunch?
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007
wtf?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmWhy does the left want for normal Americans to marry Islams by the bunch?
By the bunch? Don’t you mean by the pecker
September 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmI have no interest in counting them but there seems to be an excess of negative comments relative to gays from both sides here. What’s up with that?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmKrazny,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmIt’s me I haven’t been name jacked.
I really feel this way.
I have total respect Bin Laden.
As a Progressive I support him.
He hates the Corporations like we do.
Let’s embrace him!
Then their was the Troll who tried to write & think at the same time.
He got so fatigued they had to call a ‘Troll Truck’ nyuk nyuk nyuk!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmWhy does the left want for normal Americans to marry Islams by the bunch?
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007
Huh?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI really respect Bin Laden for what he said.
I hope he posts here on Think Progress.
I really respect his insight!
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr. — September 7, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Fuk YOU, traitor!!!
Your death cult (Islam) is about to be destroyed by the POWER of The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!
How does it feel to know that you are about to meet allalaalalalalalla?!?!!??!?!?!!?!?!?!?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pm“Oh, well let me enlighten you then, buddy. Of course you’ve never seen any posts here pointing out that osama dislikes homosexuality, alcohol and drug use, adultery etc. just like conservatives get caught doing every day.”
FIFY
September 7th, 2007 at 4:26 pmnegative comments related to gays
negative comments related to closeted gay politicians who slime their way to the men’s room while voting against gay rights.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:26 pmgreyWolfMan,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:26 pmArabs are Blacks!
Huh?
Comment by dbadass — September 7, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
You’re a dhimmi.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:26 pmKrazny,
It’s me I haven’t been name jacked.
I really feel this way.
I have total respect Bin Laden.
As a Progressive I support him.
He hates the Corporations like we do.
Let’s embrace him!
Comment by Greald Gibson Jr. — September 7, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
Oh, that hurt. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pmWhy does the left want surrender to Muslims?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pmI was impressed by OBL’s rant; he will fit right in when he gives the keynote speech at the DFL convention.
Imagine the awe when he comes out on stage, salutes and says, “Osama Bin Laden…reporting for duty!”
September 7th, 2007 at 4:28 pmWhy does the left want to surrender to Islam?
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
Good question. I’d think conservatives are much more Usama’s style:
Hmmm… He complains about Democrats, proposes doing away with the democratic system, and boasts about having no taxes… Now who does that sound like?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:28 pmMaster P,
History is against you.
The Judeo-Christain world is on the decline.
Islam and Asia are on the rise.
Soon Iran will exterminate Israel and then we can kill the rest of the Jews and theri Christian buddies here in the west.
As a Progressive Muslims are my allies and I will assist them!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:28 pmTechnically, Arabs are in the caucasian category based on genetic characteristics
September 7th, 2007 at 4:28 pmHow many Trolls does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Just one, but the bulb has to want to be screwed!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:29 pmComment by toasterhead — September 7, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
Fuk you, sand-n!gger!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:29 pmWhy does the left want surrender to Muslims?
They are easily led and also under the impression that they will be spared.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:29 pmYou’re a dhimmi.
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
And you seem quite the fool
September 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmMaster P = Master baiter
September 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmtesting… check 1 2… peace corps testing… check check
September 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmtoasterhead,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmBin Laden condemed Corporations, the Military-Industrial complex and the Capitalistic system.
He’s a Progressive.
Whatr’s wrong with Islam?
It’s better than Judeo-Christianity!
Gerald Gibson Jr.,
You and your Islamo-Stalinist and Islamo-Fascist buddies will all be dead soon!!!
THE WEST WINS AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmMaster P – go meet Lindsay and Craig in the men’s room. They’re waiting for you.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmWhy does no one eat the hot dogs at a liberal BBQ?
Because they taste like shat.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmDermot,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmThat is a lie of the Whiteman.
Look at borther Osama(PBUH, he’s black!
Arabs are Blacks!
hil
looks like peace corps is allowed today
September 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmTechnically, Arabs are in the caucasian category based on genetic characteristics
Comment by Dermot — September 7, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
Depends on who you classify as “Arab.” It’s kind of a catch-all term that includes North Africans and Levantine ethnic groups in addition to people who can trace their lineage back to the Arabian Peninsula.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:31 pmTechnically, Arabs are in the caucasian category based on genetic characteristics
Comment by Dermot — September 7, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
———–
Technically, you’re a stupid sh!thead!
Go fuk yourself, you Islamophile!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:32 pmI have no interest in counting them but there seems to be an excess of negative comments relative to gays from both sides here. What’s up with that?
Comment by dbadass — September 7, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
I mentioned a few days ago how strange it is that folks in the party that is so supportive of gays seems to use the suggestion of homosexuality as their weapon of choice. Seems a little hypocritical.
So how about that bin laden message. ;) Look, dermie, no typo. Comments? ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:32 pmReligion is the root of all wars, regardless of Credo.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:32 pmskin color has little meaning in terms of genetic or racial differentiation. In fact some blacks and whites have more in common genetically than do blacks and blacks or whites and whites
Probably too complicated for you to understand, so don’t worry, just nod head and go to sleep.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:32 pmYou make any normal american sick. I wouldn’t read your posts to become filthy rich.
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 4:31 pm
Hi Dean – how are you? :)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmDean CT – please specifiy which one you thought funny, there are so many funny ones.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmTechnically, you’re a stupid sh!thead!
Go fuk yourself, you Islamophile!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
Looks like SOMEONE’s got a case of the MONDAYS! ;-)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmDean CT,
Hard to get rich at 5 cents / post.
Pump up the volume!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmI agree with the video of Osama Bin Laden. He spouts many of my same views. He’s not that bad of a guy.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmI guess we know which side you’re on.
Comment by Ringo — September 5, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
I did, because we did. Prove me wrong.
Comment by toasterhead — September 5, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/goldsmith-politics-hiring/#comment-4059371
Fuk YOU, traitor!!! toasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmBin Laden reads Think Progress and I respect him.
I too am dissapointed with Democrats.
He’s upset they haven’t ended the war.
I they did he would praise our party.
Mr P,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmYou’re side is losing and Islamic-Progressive alliance is winning!
In fact most Americans hate Christains and Jews are ready to convert.
80% of the posters here on TP are Crypto-Muslims!
Master P = masturbator
September 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmReligion is the root of all wars, regardless of Credo.
What about Warcraftâ„¢?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmMr. P, reponse w/inquiry posted to e-mail.
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
I can only imagine: “Would you like to come over to my place for a Gannon, should we meet for a Craig in a public bathroom, or maybe you could Foley me on my cell phone? I can hardly wait, Mr. Pee!”
Yup. Most gays are Progs, right, leftup right? Keep dreaming. Remember, “family values.” ; )
September 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmZimzone,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmWrong Islam is a peaceful religion.
It never commited wars of sgression!
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/goldsmith-politics-hiring/#comment-4059371
Fuk YOU, traitor!!! toasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmTechnically, you’re technically stupid and technically American only by a technicality. In reality, you’re technically Un-American.
your mother must be proud that you can spell the word technically. Now how about making a point other than the one on top of your head
September 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmpeed on yourself; Go get your diaper changed, AND a bath. You stink!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmComment by toasterhead — September 7, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
Heh, heh, heh I was just about to ask how TP would spin this to be pro-prog and there was toastie’s comment. Excellent cherry picking, bud. I knew you’d be in the running for best avoidance. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmRE: “Within the next weeks, not months, there will be a major breakthrough on the benchmarks regarding political reconciliation.”
There’s a big scoop that’s been slowly making the rounds on the blogs. I first found it at-
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/09/03/iraq-peace-talks-draw-to-a-close-in-finland/
and then at-
http://cernigsnewshog.blogspot.com/2007/09/irish-ex-terrorists-try-to-broker-iraq.html
It’s beginning to gain traction, albeit still mainly in the blogosphere. MSM has yet to pick this up with any enthusiasm. CNN International had this on 9-4-
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/09/04/iraq.finland/?iref=mpstoryview
A Sunni-Shia peace agreement borkered by an ex-IRA commander and now Sinn Fein MP. Of the Sunni & Shia participants Martin said “”They are power-brokers, they are people with enormous influence in that country. There’s no doubt whatsoever that the message that they bring back from Finland to Iraq is important…”
This is fascinating to say the least! Most fascinating is #5 of the ‘12 point plan’–
“End international interference.”
WOH!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmI’m not sure where the Bush Admin is in all this, but my belief is most likely at arms length or better; for the simple fact that any Bush Admin involvement will doom any efforts to failure. Especially if there’s no profit or influence for Bush cronies!
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/goldsmith-politics-hiring/#comment-4059371
Fuk YOU, traitor!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmtoasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
Lindsay, Lindsay, come out to play
That closet’s so dark & it’s light out today
September 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmFuk YOU, traitor!!! toasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
I think you spelled some words incorrectly there. You should try typing more carefully! :)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmLOL Mr. P has hijacked Geralds name to be as stupid and inflammatory as possible, then flames himself. I also like how he and Dean pretend to be different people, including talking about sending emails to each other.
get a life.
Please pay careful attention. Osama is a religious zealot, who wishes to impose a one world religion. Progressives believe in a diverse world view. And that everyone should be free to worship as they choose. The two ideologies regardless of any similarities aren’t compatible.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmLooks like SOMEONE’s got a case of the MONDAYS! ;-)
Thats impossible because its FRIDAY, you ignorant muzzlebrake!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmProgressive allies,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmBin Laden has offered peace through the path of Islam.
As an American Muslim who supports the Democratic Party I suggest we accept his peace offer!
Mr. Gibson’s name has been hijacked….
He would never post this crap…
September 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/goldsmith-politics-hiring/#comment-4059371
Fuk YOU, Muslim!!! toasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmAnd what will the GOP do when Graham is OUTED as a closeted hypocrite who seeks men secretly for sex acts?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmupright left,
My comment was off topic, but really now, look at this whole thread and tell me what the topic was?
It’s clearly Friday and school is out for the week.
Osama should be caught, skinned, and made to swim in salt water for the sh*t he has done. But Bush should be next in line.
The 9/11 tragedy belongs to Osama and the Iraq tragedy belongs to Bush.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:38 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/goldsmith-politics-hiring/#comment-4059371
Fuk YOU, traitor!!! toasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
Fuk you, too, Umar Lee!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:38 pmgreyWolfMan,
Arabs are Blacks!
Comment by Rasheed X — September 7, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
If you gents allow me, here is the wikipedia page of note:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab
September 7th, 2007 at 4:38 pmMaster P. Does the P. stand for pussy because you can’t seem to stand like a man and discuss your side. You can only throw out ignorance.
You are the type of trash that couldn’t stand 5 minutes in a real debate on the facts around the conflict in Iraq. You are also the type that would most likely be dropped in 5 seconds in a real fight.
Master P. fits you just right.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:38 pmFuk YOU, traitor!!! toasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
I’m still waiting for you or Ringo or anyone else to prove me wrong. Your lack of intelligent response obviously means that you agree with me. So why do you believe the U.S. deserved the 9/11 attacks, Master P?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:38 pmMr. President’s salary: $656,000 + perks, chicks, coffee, bonus, etc.
Chicks? I don’t think so. Roosters maybe. Just look at the crew he’s got around him – everyone in the closet – Rove, Gonzales, Secretary of State what’s her name,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:39 pmYup. Most gays are Progs, right, leftup right? Keep dreaming. Remember, “family values.†; )
Comment by robbez_92107 — September 7, 2007 @ 4:35 pm
What? Most gays aren’t prog? Well, somebody better tell ‘em quick because they’ve been voting dem. And what about all those candidates at the gay forum recently? Why weren’t the repubs there instead? Hurry rob, go set ‘em straight, bud.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWhy do you suck Muslims?
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
In all seriousness, How old are you? Your stuff seems so juvenile. I don’t mean that disrespectfully. I just don’t get it.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:39 pmJay,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:39 pmAs a Progressive who support Islamic causes, will you help convince your fellow Progressives to accept Bin Laden’s peace offer?
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/goldsmith-politics-hiring/#comment-4059371
TOASTERHEAD SAYS THAT AMERICA DESERVED THE TERRORIST ATTACKS!!!!!!! HE IS A TERRORIST!!!!!!!!!!
Fuk YOU, traitor!!! toasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:39 pmnew closet homo code
OUT: footsie in the Men’s Room
IN: zip….We’re kicking ass in Iraq…..?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pmMaster P. Does the P. stand for pussy
Does it?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pmThe two ideologies regardless of any similarities aren’t compatible.
The DFL are Osama’s ‘useful idiots. You are compatible because you can both live by the idea that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.
You both hate the United States and so are natural allies.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pmThe Dean’s salary: $22.50
Suck on that, lefty.
Listen, you little NeoTurd, if you ever ask me to suck you off again I will report you to the NSA / DHS / CIA / Dept of Agriculture AND Bushie!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pmIf you gents allow me, here is the wikipedia page of note…
Comment by James Saville Row — September 7, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
WIKIPEDIA!!!!!!!!!!
BWAAhaHAhHaHAHHAHHAhahAhAhAhahhahaHAHahahahHAhHAhAHhAhahAHHAhHAhAhAhaHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pmFuk YOU, traitor!!! toasterhead, you really are a piece of sh!t!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Oh noes!!! Some racist bigot from the internet disagrees with me! ;_;
Can we still be friends?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pmUmar,
I will convert to Islam!
Here’s my proclamation of faith
“There’s no God but Allah and Mohhamed(PBUH) is his Prophet!
I am noe Muslim Umar.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pmI will now go to your website!
TOASTERHEAD SAYS THAT AMERICA DESERVED THE TERRORIST ATTACKS!!!!!!! HE IS A TERRORIST!!!!!!!!!!
Master Pussy you need to speak up more, we can’t hear you.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:42 pmThe two ideologies regardless of any similarities aren’t compatible.
The DFL are Osama’s ‘useful idiots. You are compatible because you can both live by the idea that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.
You both hate the United States and so are natural allies
September 7th, 2007 at 4:42 pmComment by hellinabucket — September 7, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
Fuk you, fag.
There is nothing to debate. toasterhead is an Islamophile, and he thinks that America deserved the 9-1-1 attacks.
I don’t see any of the proglibs denouncing toasterhead’s statement!
BTW that is the reason why you side will always lose!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmJames Saville Row,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmWikipedia is a lie of the White Devil!
Arabs are Blacks!
Comment by toasterhead — September 7, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Fuk you, faggot.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmBWAAhaHAhHaHAHHAHHAhahAhAhAhahhahaHAHahahahHAhHAhAHhAhahAHHAhHAhAhAhaHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
master pussy sounds like a guy who used to be on the MSNBC blog years ago. He had his nose up Bill’s ass so far he couldn’t tolerate any questions about bombing of Serbs
September 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmConvert to Islam White Devils or face Allah’s wrath!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:44 pmHmmm,
Dean CT, does the CT stand for Corporate Turd?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:44 pmAs a Progressive who support Islamic causes, will you help convince your fellow Progressives to accept Bin Laden’s peace offer?
Comment by Umar Lee — September 7, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
The only peace offer the American public will accept from Bin Laden, is him turning himself into the nearest US forces.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:44 pmI will now go to your website!
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr. — September 7, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
You should do more than that!!
You should go to the Mid East and join all of your new sand-n!gger friends!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:45 pmComment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
The subject-matter does lend itself to multiple modifications, you undisguised, unmitigated blithering idiot!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:45 pmKrazny,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pmAs your ally I have no quarrel with Progressives.
My enemy are the Corporation and their Jewish-Christians masters.
We are allies!
Let’s untite and topple the system!
Dean CT, does the CT stand for Corporate Turd?
I get it now, CT = Cock Teaser
Go find Graham or Gannon, kiddo, you’re in over your head here.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pmMaster Pussy – did you used to inhabit the msnbc blog years ago – your obtuse dumb assed expressions have a familiar smell
September 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pmThe only peace offer the American public will accept from Bin Laden, is him turning himself into the nearest US forces.
The dems would compromise and accept him as a senator from Massachusetts.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pmMr. P, It’s late buddy and it’s a Friday, shouldn’t you have something better to do than piss and moan at your computer?
Have you tried socializing? Exercise? Movies, a walk in the forest, swimming, talking to other human beings.
There is life outside of your basement. Engage!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pmLet’s untite and topple the system!
Comment by Umar Lee — September 7, 2007 @ 4:46 pm
Sorry I don’t swing that way. Could try Mr. P he likes to suck stuff.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:47 pmI don’t see any of the proglibs denouncing toasterhead’s statement!
BTW that is the reason why you side will always lose!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
And I don’t see any of you wingnuts providing a single coherent argument against it. Why not? Calling me a terrorist and traitor and islamophile and blathering on with racist crap is not a coherent argument.
Your side, the one of racism, hatred, and bigotry, is the one that will always lose.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:47 pmThere is life outside of your basement. Engage!
That’s what Craig said to him from under the stall wall
September 7th, 2007 at 4:48 pmJames Saville Row,
Wikipedia is a lie of the White Devil!
Arabs are Blacks!
Comment by Rasheed X — September 7, 2007 @ 4:43 pm
Ok, now you are starting to sound like the idiot, Mr. PileOfMuck. ‘a lie of the White Devil’?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:48 pmThat’s what Craig said to him from under the stall wall
Craig was talking to McGreevy(D).
September 7th, 2007 at 4:49 pmMaster Pussy – you and your side have already lost
September 7th, 2007 at 4:49 pmWait, I have the records….Dermot B. Laden
That’s not even funny. You are pathetic. Give us something funny. Like your face
September 7th, 2007 at 4:50 pmIt’s racist to advocate Islamics attacking as many caucasians as possible. You do admire 9/11, don’t you (rhetorical question, heh)?.
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 4:45 pm
Yes it is, and I’ve never advocated “Islamics attacking as many caucasians as possible.” I also don’t admire 9/11, but I do feel that (at least assuming the official story is true), the U.S. brought it on itself.
If you want to disagree with me, that’s fine. But don’t put words in my mouth that I never said.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:50 pmUmar Lee and toasterhead are butt buddies!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pmtoasterhead,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pmThanks for standing up for us Muslims!
When we destroy the Capitalist-Judeo-Christain side we will have an earthly paradise.
It can’t be possible without the Left.
Thanks for you alliance!
Dean Corporate Turd, Master Pussy – you are what you hate
September 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pmDermot,
I think it’s worse than that. At least that would require interaction with other humans. Mr. P seems to be one of those sociopaths that can only interact through an anonymous screen.
Sad and pathetic twisted loser. We all know how that story ends, with Mom cleaning the walls and crying where did she go wrong.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pmUmar Lee – did you forget how to spell your first name (Omar) or are you actually Chinese?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:52 pmJust keep on digging that hole even further. It makes it that much harder to get out.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:52 pmJames Saville Row ,
September 7th, 2007 at 4:53 pmYou are a spawn of the Evil Egyptian Scientist Yakub.
The White race was a skin graff experiment on the Island of Patmos in 6,000 BC.
We then exiled you Mutants to the Caucus Mts where you lived in caves while the Black man founded civilization!
Mom cleaning the walls and crying where did she go wrong
LOL. Mom left long ago.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:53 pmYour own comments constitute the argument.
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
In other words, you have no coherent argument to prove me wrong. So shall we agree to agree, then? :)
September 7th, 2007 at 4:53 pmComment by toasterhead — September 7, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
Fuk you, you muslim loving cocksucker!
You said the US deserved the terrorist attacks on 9-1-1!
You traitor, and I know you’ve never said that to an American outside of the internet, because if you did you’d be in the hospital right now.
You’ve got it coming to you, muslim! Consider yourself lucky.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pm“Like yer face†-Dermot B. Laden
Right up there with Edgar Allen Poe, or Eudora Welty.
What?
You must be taking too much Paxil. It can cause hallucinations.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pmMaster pile o’ sh!t, I’m only speaking for myself. You, and your infantile way of showing what a braindead piece of republoslug you are has prompted others to call you out for the ignorant footsoldier for the stupid that you are.
I’ll ask you a question based on this thread and let’s see if you can stand like a man and debate using more than your “oh yeah well so are you” degating style.
The latest reports from the GAO and CRS as well as the latest NIE all state the grim aspects of the political improvement in Iraq. They have provided statistics that support the consensus that Political improvement is bleak. Sen. Graham says we’re kicking ass and the govt. in Iraq is going to leap forward. But he doesn’t offer any evidence to support this.
So my question to you is what postion do you support? Sen Graham’s or the consensus of the reports from the CRS, GAO and the latest NIE?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pmDermot; that smell from peed on himself is his diaper….unchanged for a week now. Stand upwind of him.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pmDermot,
Umar is the correct Arabic spelling.
My original name was James Lee.
However I converted to Islam.
If you want post on my site.
Http://www.umarlee.com
September 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pmThe war never “worked”. No matter if the surge worked or not. The surge was always a temporary “band aid” solution anyway. Iraq can only be solved politically not militarily. Politically it’s failed so these repub clowns can dance around this surge all they want. The war is failed. The only way to stop it is for us to leave.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:55 pmumarlee – no thanks. your posts are too weird
September 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmComment by Rasheed X — September 7, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Is that the unimpeachable oral-tradition you were given? I think you should ask for your money back. You were rimmed royally and hard.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:57 pmIraq can only be solved politically not militarily.
Iraq can’t be solved by humans
Only time can heal
September 7th, 2007 at 4:57 pmComment by hellinabucket — September 7, 2007 @ 4:54 pm
Your argument is riddled with logical fallacies, however, I will point out the most obvious.
It’s not an either/or decision, as it seems you would like me to think, I, in fact, support Gen. Petraeus.
http://djkonservo.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/overwhelming-american-success-in-iraq/
I don’t get my news soley from Left-wing propaganda sites like TP, you see, you might not want to either.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:59 pmI have 2 things to say
• Republican predictions are less valuable than the 12-inch log I just left in the head.
• The term “kicking ass” is bacially “bring em on”
I can’t believe we have the leaders of our county using idiotic language like this. It’s like really inspiring or something. Did he expect the reporters to start chanting “U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!”?
September 7th, 2007 at 4:59 pmumarlee; I think I’ll stick with Sara Lee.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmFred Thompson. What a freakin joke. One more ight jowelly faced wasp talking tough from the safety of an overstuffed corporate couch.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmThis man really does speak for America!
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
———
Even though I am an Independent, I still like Thompson better than any of the Dems. We need someone with America’s interests at heart!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmIslam has triumphed in Iraq and is winning in Afganistan!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmYou Devils can’t stop Islam!
At least you so called Progressives realize the power of Islam!
Comment by Rasheed X — September 7, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
You obviously understand my language. You are NOT as dumb as you claim. You are merely playing a game. I cannot take you seriously. I have proven my point!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pmRasheed X has his dick in toasterhead’s mouth, while Umar Lee fuks toasterhead’s ass!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pmMaster Pussy likes Fred Thompson
now we know Thompson is wrong
September 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pmhe presidential hopeful warned of possible greater al-Qaida threats within the United States.
(sic)
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
I thought we were fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here? Or is that slogan no longer in use? Thompson only speaks to the frightened bedwetters with daddy issues.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:02 pmI think Chris Matthews should change the name of his show from Hardball to Mooslem Nutrag. It sounds much better.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:03 pmIslam has triumphed in Iraq and is winning in Afganistan!
You Devils can’t stop Islam!
At least you so called Progressives realize the power of Islam!
Comment by Rasheed X — September 7, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
DEATH to ISLAMOSTALINISM!!!
FUK THE LEFTISTS TRAITORS!!!
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:03 pmSo, let me get this straight, they want to kick the ass of they people they went to free and give democracy?
I thought it was about wining hearts and minds?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmCan’t hear you Master Pussy. TALK LOUDER
September 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmKrazny,
September 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmIslam will triumph!
Even though I am an Independent, I still like Thompson better than any of the Dems. We need someone with America’s interests at heart!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Considering that he was a lack luster senator at best and only has just declared, what the heck do you base this on? Just that the rest of the GOP field is so weak?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmYour side, the one of racism, hatred, and bigotry, is the one that will always lose.
Comment by toasterhead — September 7, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
Well, they are the experts, they have lost for thousands of years, and continue to lose. p, for instance, hasn’t ever won an argument here, in spite of engaging a dozen of more fake personalities. He can’t even win arguments with them! it’s the usual rightard bullshit: provide them with a proveable fact they don’t like, and you become a traitor, an Islamophile (like the Founding Fathers, by the way), or whatever. Same reaction if you point out the Deserter-In-Chief’s surrender to Bin Laden, or his incompetence, or his cowardice. these are all clear, provable items, yet if anybody points them out, we are Against the Troops, or some such post-nazi garbage. There is no truth on the right, there is only fantasy, wishful thinking, and wholesale cowardice.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmCan Fred Thompson even fit in a bathroom stall?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:05 pmAnother closet homo-Goper walking around the green zone with his d!ck in his hand.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:06 pmWe are winning thanks to you our Leftist allies.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pmKeep up the demoralization of America!
DEATH to ISLAMOSTALINISM!!!
FUK THE LEFTISTS TRAITORS!!!
GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007
Mr P:
September 7th, 2007 at 5:08 pmA) You dont believe in God.
B) You are a racist
C) You are supposed to free the Islamo-stalinists.
D) It sounds pretty odd that you want to screw them.
E) The Reagan Freedom Fighters fought communism [Stalinism]
F) You are not winning hearts and minds if you screw people.
#255 – that post is not by me
September 7th, 2007 at 5:09 pmOsama bin Laden is dead. Any video’s of him are staged and timed by the Bush administration to stoke fear when he and the repubs are in political trouble. Last one was before the 2004 elections. Now with all the GOP scandals, and the GOP and Bush weaked by “reality” once again they pull another video out. Don’t buy in to the fear. That’s the GOP’s only weapon.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:09 pmSo, let me get this straight, they want to kick the ass of they people they went to free and give democracy?
I thought it was about wining hearts and minds?
Comment by Snake Plisken — September 7, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
Yes it is complicated isn’t it? Apparently our love of cheap lead based products prevents us from any Chinese ass kicking for democracy
September 7th, 2007 at 5:09 pmHeil George! We will do as you say even after January 20, 2009.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:09 pmDEATH TO THE ISLAM-democRAT ALLIANCE!!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:09 pmMaster P. is that special type of radical. He’s got all the information he needs to know and can’t be told otherwise.
M P, my question was framed in the context of the subject matter which is all factual. I’ll try an easier question for you. Have you read the latest NIE or either reports from the CRS or GAO? If not, I suggest you do before putting all your eggs in Petreaus’ basket. If you have then you could more authoritatively respond to my original question.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmG} I am not a leftist traitor, as I recall your blog commend Patraeus for reducing troops, makin you, your word, a surrender monkey
September 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmF) And no, I dont swing that way, please re-inflate your Gannon blow up doll and have a merry day poking a ‘little fun’ at it.
Master Pussy isn’t a radical. He’s just insane
September 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmRasheed X has his dick in toasterhead’s mouth, while Umar Lee fuks toasterhead’s ass!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
Rasheed, Umar and toasterhead are Republican congressmen?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:11 pmWe are winning thanks to you our Leftist allies.
Keep up the demoralization of America!
Comment by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (D-NY) — September 7, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
————–
You’re next, sand-n!gger!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:11 pmYou haven’t been reading mp, radical Islam is closer to the neocon’s you follow than the party that wants to give a voice to all of the people.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:11 pmBarry,
September 7th, 2007 at 5:12 pmBrother Osama is alive and well.
Islam is winning and soon the Corporate World Order will fall!
Rasheed, Umar and toasterhead are Republican congressmen?
And Master Pussy is the Secretary of State
September 7th, 2007 at 5:12 pmWe are winning thanks to you our Leftist allies.
Keep up the demoralization of America!
Comment by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (D-NY) — September 7, 2007 @ 5:07 pm
Are the GOPrs paying you to come trolling here. I wouldn’t put it past them
September 7th, 2007 at 5:12 pmAre the GOPrs paying you to come trolling here. I wouldn’t put it past them
2 BJs per sentence
September 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pmDEATH TO THE ISLAM-democRAT ALLIANCE!!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007
A) It was Rumsfeld who shook hands with Saddam. Ergo it is a Islamo-RePIGlican alliance.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pmB) Is that any way to thank your Freedom Fighter friends that kicked Russias ass?
You’re next, sand-n!gger!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Don’t be so sure cracker
September 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pmNot me at 5:11.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pmSoon we will finish what Hitler started and exterminate Israel!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:14 pmDeath to Israel!
Let’s see…
George Bush was business partners with the Bin Laden family.
After 9/11, the administration made sure (while the rest of the nation was grounded)that a plane containing Osama Bin Laden’s family was able to leave the country.
In six years, George Bush has let Osama Bin Laden stay free and taunt America.
Pat Robertso and Jerry Falwell said that Osama was doing god’s work in attacking the WEC.
Dinesh D’Souza, a prominent Republican, has said he has more sympathy with fundamentalist Muslims than with most Americans.
When Barack Obama said that he would attack Osama’s hiding place if he received good intelligence, the Republicans mocked him saying, “He’d invade Pakistan!” as if invading Pakistan to destroy OBL were unthinkable, while destroying a whole country because they might, might supply him with weapons is ok?
Osama Bin Laden is not just the Republican’s friend, he is their ally.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:14 pmIt’s great when they have polls asking Americans if they think Bin Laden will be captured.
Like it matters what Americans think. So if a majority of Americans are deluded into thinking he will be captured, does that mean he will be captured.
It’s that magical thinking of children that is so common amongst the grown ups who think they are running this country.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:15 pmI don’t use any excessive punctuation but nice try
September 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pmI could have never done this without Mr P’s help for by not caring where this dead man has been for the last 5 years.
Thank you Mr P for supporting the Islamo=RePIGlican alliance. May you little conpervative have seventy virgin male blow up dolls when you pass away.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pmComment by Dermot — September 7, 2007 @ 5:13 pm
WTF? Are you confused? You have forgotten that this thread has to do with GOPrs.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pmHow will you answer that?
Comment by Dean CT
By saying what George did, [How else?] “I dont worry about where Osam is, and frankly I dont care”
September 7th, 2007 at 5:18 pmWhat Graham meant to say was that “we” — meaning Republicans — were “licking ass” and working hard to appease their President in so doing. Stick your face up there a little farther, Senator; consider this your loyalty test.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:18 pmSouth Carolina: It’s my firm belief that General Sherman didn’t do a good enough job on his march to the ocean.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:19 pmfrom mp,
I have, and the US is kicking ass!
7 benchmarks down, 11 to go. With Petraeus and Bush calling the shots, it should only be a few more months before you see some of the troops coming home (as everyone knew already, except for the traitorous left).
If you had read them it would have become evident to you that it wasn’t as simple as your answer. And to say the Bush is calling the shots, well now that’s just funny. You use the word traitor but don’t understand it’s meaning. sad little p. There are 18 benchmarks and it’s debatable if more than 3 have been met.
You have been used. Such a sad waste. I bet you could have been somebody too.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pmOsama bin Laden is dead. Any video’s of him are staged and timed by the Bush administration to stoke fear when he and the repubs are in political trouble. Last one was before the 2004 elections. Now with all the GOP scandals, and the GOP and Bush weaked by “reality†once again they pull another video out. Don’t buy in to the fear. That’s the GOP’s only weapon.
Comment by Barry — September 7, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
But he’s on TV! Look! http://sitemultimedia.org/video/SITE_UBL_Sahab_Clip_907.wmv
You can’t fake a video, duh!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pmBin Laden is dead!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:22 pmThis is an Israeli actor playing Bin Laden.
His Arabic is heavily accepted.
This is the Mossasd up to it’s old tricks to discredit Peace loving MUslims!
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 5:16 pm
You back again you overinflated rectal cavity you ReTardican traitor to the constitution with your un-christian hate speech? Have you come once again to bore us with your plethora of unimaginative mental masterbation projectionism?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:22 pmHow will you answer that?
Comment by Dean CT
Maybe the same way you answered mine about the juvenile nature of so many of your posts and whether or not it was just a function of adolescence
September 7th, 2007 at 5:23 pmI just want to thank my Progressive allies for support the Muslim cause!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:26 pmThanks for standing up for us!
How will you answer that? Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007
Yes how will you answer your unfaithtfulness to Jesus, to God, and to his words in the bible? By having an affair with Mr P’s vaseline soaked, patched and prodded, Rovian blow up doll? Is that how you show love and respect to humanity, that what Mr P, preaches but does not follow?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:26 pmOsama Bin Laden is not just the Republican’s friend, he is their ally.
Comment by pbg — September 7, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
Not today, bud. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 5:27 pmWhen the real anti-war rallies begin at the time he delivers the bad news that he’s lied to the people once again and is moving forward with the surge regardless that only 3 of the initiatives were accomplished, the people will begin to take back their government. Anyone in Congress who conspires will be swept away when their term expires.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:28 pmComment by Snake Plisken — September 7, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
SMACK!!!!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:28 pmI am off to have a nice friday glass of wine. I might be back later if TP finds a way to get rid of Mr. PileofMuck! He has absolutely NOTHING to say!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pmFuk you, Muslim!!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
September 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pmPathetic.
DEATH TO ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
But your supposed to free those people that believe in Allah, George said so, remember your tac dollars are hard at works rebuilding Allahs infrastructure with its proud new coat of American taxpayer paint!
You should love the gift that the Repiglican alliance brought you, the welfare Allah state of Iraq!
Smile 8D your the proud new owner of millions of Allah followers!
All thanks to Repiglicans! Osama Been Forgotten thanks you!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:30 pm#302 Everyone now knows why Bush chose to ignore the warnings of 53 other countries regarding a potential terrorist attack – House of Bush/House of Bin Laden. These two families have been partners in crime for a very long time. In fact, Bush and Osama were “buds” – after all, we trained him under Pappy Bush when we wanted to drive the Russians out of Afghanistan. His bro was involved in Arbusto Energy with George W. years ago and is the #2 money man in AQ. So there you have it…..if Bush had honored or heeded those warnings, this cozy little intimate relationship between the two families would have become public knowledge.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:30 pmrazzmatazz,
September 7th, 2007 at 5:31 pmMy Mujahadeen brothers will continue kill American Occupiers in Iraq in great numbers to assist you on the Left to end this war.
We’ll attack from without and you’ll attack from within!
Fascinating how the WH spin machine is putting out there photos of OBL today – a week in advance of the Petreus report to amp up the “fear factor” for those who have not yet realized that all we have to fear is fear itself and whose strings this crooked administration are still able to pull. For most educated, intelligent individual, we know it’s part of the BushCo “marketing strategy” which began with the ridiculous photo op on Labor Day and now is using OBL’s image to remind people that he is the boogey man.
Of course, we all know who the true boogeyman is, don’t we? It’s the enemy within.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:32 pmComment by Snake Plisken — September 7, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Umm, you forgot to change the URL to that Konpervative web site som eracist Vaginal uurr Virginian operates. BWAH!!!!!!
Such a doofus, is this what they teach you at George Washingdumb Uniperversity?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:33 pmDEATH TO ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
Why do you hate God?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:33 pmI’d like to see how Lindsay Graham factors into his being used as a Bush pimp as well. He’s been very outspoke and we all know what that usually is hiding – mega-skeletons his Lindsay’s closet. Let’s open Graham’s closet, shall we?? And see what ugliness we find residing there.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:34 pmWhere exactly did this cretin spend his two week reserve drill??
September 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pmWas it in a nice air conditioned tent in Iraq, Was it part time goofing off and buying stuff in some nice Mediterranean city on the sly?
Comment by razzmatazz — September 7, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Perhaps you should listen to bin laden about where he stands instead of what others want you to believe. You’ll have plenty of opportunity in the next few days to read and hear his message which follows oh so closely the prog views of the lib posters here. Bin laden is a prog. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pmFuk Umar Lee and toasterhead!!!
They are nothing but dirty sand-monkeys!!!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007
Mr Lee is thanking you and the idiot Repulitards Mr P [actually its P talking to himself] that stupidly went and invaded iraq and purchasint the welfare queen state. And why does he want to have sex with sand monkeys? [himself] He is very confused college dweeb.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:36 pmAnyone see Dumbo’s faux pas in Australia today? Priceless! What an embarrassing goofball.
He called APEC – Opec! Then he referred to the Australian Military as the “Austrian military”. He made a jackass of himself in dialoging poorly with N. Korea and then, in his sheer embarrassment and haste, he exited via the wrong door!
You just can’t make this ridiculous behavior up! Fix his meds, please!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:36 pmThey are nothing but dirty sand-monkeys!!!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Try a quick look at the range maps for those primates identified as the monkeys and i think you will find that dry desert biomes aren’t really their thing. Also as a means of reducing the impact of ectoparasite while simultaneously strengthening social bonds grooming keeps most primates are pretty clean
September 7th, 2007 at 5:37 pmJohn Stewart will have a hayday with this ridiculous behavior for at least the next month. What’ll the comedians do when The Shrub is no longer in office? Their wealth of joke material will merely dry up. Sad, but true.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:37 pmI’m kinda thinkin’ Islam wouldn’t be so bad. I don’t have to shower or shave, or brush my teeth. Burqua’s are totally hot. I like unshaven smelly women too. And as a man, it’s my way or the highway. If someone rapes my b!tch, we kill her. I get 72 virgins when I die. There are new, really cool ways to vent my anger in Islam, involving explosions. Who wouldn’t want that?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:38 pmtraitorhead would allow every member of Al-Qaeda to the ballot box in 2008 — the only chance demos have of ringing up even a few votes.
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 5:35 pm
Muslims in the U.S. tend to vote Republican, actually.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:38 pmWhy does the left want for normal Americans to marry Islams by the bunch?
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007
Aryan race talk on this day and age? How sad!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:38 pmBin laden is a prog. ;) -UL
I notice the first two letters of your name match that of Usama and Laden upright left. Your not fooling anyone hear, we all know that todays terrorists were the rights past Freedom Fighters.
Nice Try!! Please Try Again! Thanks For Playing!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:39 pmALLAH is now the standard God, a legit God to you?
What a good way to validate yourself.
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Yup! It’s the Arabic word for “The God.” and refers to the Abrahamic God of Judaism and Christianity. It’s a shame that you’re too blinded by hatred and bigotry to know that.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:40 pmDid I mention? I’m entertaining a group of thug muslims tonight, so I have to run to get some additional wine coolers. What I meant was, for now I’ll sit back and relax on this nice friday with my limited wine.
~Giggles~
Comment by James Saville Row — September 7, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
September 7th, 2007 at 5:40 pm********************************************************
TP, THIS IS WHAT I MEAN! PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ‘P’ MORON. HE POSTED THE ABOVE CRAP!
Nice Try!! Please Try Again! Thanks For Playing!!
Comment by Snake Plisken — September 7, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
Oh no, my confused friend. Better posters than you have tried to avoid the prog similarity to osama. It ain’t happening , bud. ;)
September 7th, 2007 at 5:41 pmWhy does the left want for normal Americans to marry Islams by the bunch? Comment by Dean CT
Why do you and Mr P want to screw them, male and female, without mattying them?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pmALLAH is now the standard God, a legit God to you?
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
No more no less than any other creation of the human mind in an effort to understand the world they exist in. Allah, Christ, the Easter Bunny, Santa it’s all the same. I ‘m glad these things make people feel good but saddened that those same people use their made up gods to justify their hate
September 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pmIt’s kinda cool Mr. P and friends can overcome their gag reflex so easily.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pmIt’s kinda cool Mr. P and friends can overcome their gag reflex so easily.
Comment by ForTruth — September 7, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
Only if you count multiple personalities as “friends.”
September 7th, 2007 at 5:44 pmThere always is the option of ignoring the trolls. I know that’s a difficult task, but it really is the most effective.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:44 pmYour death cult (Islam) is about to be destroyed by the POWER of The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!
How does it feel to know that you are about to meet allalaalalalalalla?!?!!??!?!?!!?!?!?!?
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 4:25 pm
Take that, you inferior races all over the world! Heed the words of your Masters, or else. Oops, I just made 1,000 new enemies….never mind.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:46 pmMr. Pee,
What is the best way to practice overcoming that gag reflex? Do you use a banana, a zucchini, a Ferret?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:49 pmALLAH is now the standard God, a legit God to you?
Comment by Dean CT — September 7, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
I never said it was the standard “GOD”. You can fond some 232 names for God in the Hebrew bible alone. I guess you fail to understand that Babel means confusion. And mankind was, according to the new testament, that speaks of Mesopotamis, which Babylon, is in todays Iraq, is in the old testament. And it was then that mankind wa strewn across the globe, his languages, and his God[s] confused.
So Dean CT. when the pledge of allegiance says GOD of which GOD do you speak, there are 350 names for him?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:50 pmThere always is the option of ignoring the trolls. I know that’s a difficult task, but it really is the most effective.
Comment by ForTruth — September 7, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
Awwwwwwww, but it’s so much fun watching them whip each other into a moronic frenzy!
Also – by keeping them busy in a throaway thread, it frees up other threads for intelligent discussion.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:51 pmAre you kidding?
First of all, that wasn’t me (judging by the name, it was, in fact, YOU).
Secondly, that’s nothing! Stop whining, you Islamophile!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
The pees in his pants from fear Xtian wingnut tells everyone else to STOP WHINING!!! Ah, those priceless kodak moments of GOP projection and HYPOCRISY!! Too FUNNY!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pmAnyone else notice that Graham was outed the same time Craig was last year as closet case?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pmFerret, that’s funny.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pmSo Dean CT. when the pledge of allegiance says GOD of which GOD do you speak, there are 350 names for him?
Comment by Snake Plisken — September 7, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
Which Christian God is he referring two? There are two ‘major’ good ones, a bad one, and a bunch of minor good and bad ones!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:53 pmThe fact is DEAN CT that Chrsitians and Muslims see ISA, IESOUS, JESUS as a prophet or messiah.
The Jewish tradition holds that Jesus was not a Mosiach [Messiah or Khristos]
The Arabs call the Alpha star Al Rischa, the cord, of which both ends are tied to the fishes, Pisces, The seveb stars in that system form an Oval, that ovel is Vesica Piscium, and that oval is what Jesus speaks of when he speaks of the 153 fish. Now, Venus, the morning star or planet, is also part of that.
The Magi, the three Kings that sought out Jesus in Bethlehem were Persians, Zoroastrians. The Magi, and it is they who saved Jesus, as the tale goe, from King Herod who wanted to kill him.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmThis is one of the main threads, you muslim.
Fuk you!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
Why do you HATE muslims so much? Your boy bush loves them so much he french kisses them and says PUBLICLY that only RADICALS hate ALL MUSLIMS like you do! Isn’t it bizarre to be called a RIGHT WING RADICAL by BUSH! Because that’s you MR. PEE, you’re TO THE FAR RIGHT of FAR RIGHT!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:56 pmYou Islamophiles can stay here and wallow in your misery!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007
Your a freedom fighter supporter, its you that helped train the terrorists righty Republicant whose ignorant of the very God and religion you speak about. Its you that must wallow in the righty ignorance that brought terror to America. We all know righties are liars, thanks for proving that.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:58 pmThis is one of the main threads, you muslim.
Fuk you!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
Not since you started defecating in it.
And I do appreciate your referring to me as a “muslim,” (lower case m) which shows your obvious scholarly knowledge of Arabic. As a Christian, I am also technically a “muslim” because I am a person of God. It’s a bit convoluted, but it does work in a strict grammatical sense, and you’re not the first to use it. Napoleon claimed that his Deist/Christian army was “muslim” when they were invading Egypt.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:58 pmYou’re nothing but a shiteating traitor!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 6:00 pm
*yawn* That all you got, P?
September 7th, 2007 at 6:01 pmYou’re nothing but a shiteating traitor!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007
Mr P loves Fredom Fighter terrorists!!!! And hes Babel, confused, about religion!! Typical stupid Righty terror supporter!!
Okay Geek, err Greek Boy, Venus, Aphrodite, came from the sea, correct? And was sometimes drawn as fish with a womans head?
BWAH. your a tool!!
September 7th, 2007 at 6:03 pmAlso – by keeping them busy in a throaway thread, it frees up other threads for intelligent discussion.
Comment by toasterhead — September 7, 2007 @ 5:51 pm
Also, if I may add, it keeps them off the streets where they may harm children!
September 7th, 2007 at 6:04 pmAre you kidding?
First of all, that wasn’t me (judging by the name, it was, in fact, YOU).
Secondly, that’s nothing! Stop whining, you Islamophile!!!
Comment by Master P — September 7, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
You are not necessary
You are a wanton waste of space
You do not deserve any mention in the annals of existence
September 7th, 2007 at 6:04 pm*yawn* That all you got, P?
Comment by toasterhead
He sure is obsessed with fecal matter, wonder whats up with that?
Must be one of those turdblossoms.
September 7th, 2007 at 6:04 pmAlso, if I may add, it keeps them off the streets where they may harm children!
Comment by JoeCaribe — September 7, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
True, too! I’m doing a very important public service here!
September 7th, 2007 at 6:05 pmSo anyway, Mr P, I have tied your Greek History into Christianity and the Zoroastrian [Persian] Mesopotamian old testament religion all thru Pisces.
Bwah!!
Your a total FOOL!
September 7th, 2007 at 6:07 pmCome on Graham, as long as you’re in the closet you’re a PAWN of those that hold your secrets! GET OUT OF THE CLOSET and BE A MAN!
September 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pmgreat troll trouncing going on. I’ll check back later tonight.
mp, you don’t know when you’ve lost but it makes for some good reading so you keep at it little soldier.
September 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pmYou do not deserve any mention in the annals of existence
Comment by Responding to Mr. PileofMuck
Not to worry, Mr P, will have a very hard time getting thru those pearly gates when his time comes due.
September 7th, 2007 at 6:09 pmThis is one of the main threads, you muslim.
Fuk you!
Comment by Master P
So now mister p is saying that George was wrong for going into Iraq?
That George, his leader, should not have freed them and given them democracy? That they should be oppressed and have their asses kicked? That he is a racist that whose eyes judge by skin color alone?
How can you reconcile these things in your mind Mr P?
To Free someone is to hate them?
Why would you want to free those you hate?
September 7th, 2007 at 6:13 pmgraham is such a creepy looking, flouncy little pussy
September 7th, 2007 at 6:19 pmIn a matter of few day Graham described the situation as:..’Surge will work’ to ‘Surge is working’…now ‘Surge has worked…’…..
And Gaham is sure that ‘we are kicking ass..’
September 7th, 2007 at 6:45 pmand don’t forget ’shopping for cheap rugs in Iraq markets’..
Comment by UprightLeftIsDownrightStupid — September
Well, dang, I went and ticked off retard. Glad to see ya got that retard out of your name. Now you’re just stupid! See, I told ya you’d get better, bud. Congratulations!;)
September 7th, 2007 at 6:45 pmThis is great news from Sen. Graham about the success of America and our troops!
Comment by Brassmask — September 7, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Even if this were true, (and anybody not currently in a coma knows it for the lie that it is) it STILL wouldn’t be “great news”.
So, as a reminder…over 1 mllion Iraqi civillians have died as a result of US military presense in Iraq. Another 4 plus million have been displaced, externally and internally. Iraq is now the #2 nation on the Failed State Index, just behind Sudan, without any real measurable difference. The civillians who are left, (though they are fleeing daily if they can, by the tens of thousands) are without electricity, gas, sewage, food, water, medicine, schools, hospitals, and whatever else it is that we all take for granted. And, they’re be walled into concrete enclaves, (topped with razor wire) with only one way in and out of their neighborhoods, and even that is by luck of the draw.
Today, (so far) 7 more US soldiers have died, and that seems to pretty much be the standard since the “surge”, despite the fact that we’ve drastically increased air attacks on these neighborhoods. And of course the civilian death toll climbs at 10 times plus that rate.
So, if this is “success”, and if this somehow signals an impending political reconciliation, it must mean that there just won’t be anything left to reconcile. Maybe that’s why the Senator is so optimistic. He’s also a lying lunatic, and we should keep that in mind.
As for the gay stuff, I had no idea. I’ve always so thoroughly disliked the guy, that I never paid any attention to what gender preferences he might have, because in reality, it’s never mattered, at least not to me.
Liars come in all varieties, and the main way to separate the political liars that have been abusing us, is to try and figure out whether or not they actually believe this stuff themselves. (some actually lie for so long, that they really do start to belive their own BS). Once we’ve figured that out, we can institutionalize all of them, but we’ll put the most demented into medical facilities, (where they can’t get out) and the rest in jails, (where they can’t get out).
September 7th, 2007 at 6:49 pmgraham is such a creepy looking, flouncy little pussy
Comment by klaus — September 7, 2007 @ 6:19 pm
It is not his fault (or else, “throw the first stone”). He is being used by the powers which are and we are all reacting to his stupidity in submitting to them as if we would do otherwise when confronted with the same situation. I dare you to do it! It costs plenty, I warn you.
September 7th, 2007 at 6:50 pmThat’s nothing for Graham to say. In speaking to some county Repubs here in SC in the early year or two of the war, Graham told the crowd, “we’ll give those Iraqis freedom or kill’em tryin’…”. The county boys told me after the speech. I’m telling you all now. Our Senator does us proud.
September 7th, 2007 at 6:56 pmThis is great news from Sen. Graham about the success of America and our troops!
Comment by Brassmask — September 7, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
You got that right!!!
AMERICA IS KICKING SOME ISLAMIC ASS!!!!!!
September 7th, 2007 at 7:03 pmThis is great news from Sen. Graham about the success of America and our troops!
Comment by Brassmask — September 7, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Your ability to make new enemies for the US is only surpassed by your ignorance!
September 7th, 2007 at 7:10 pm“we’re kickin’ ass” and takin’ numbers in Iraq. Here’s a number you can take, Senatard: 382-5968. Spell it out on your phone pad an give it a call.
September 7th, 2007 at 7:15 pmI love listening to Graham – he’s SUCH a fag. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
September 7th, 2007 at 7:25 pmwe’re kickin’ ass†and takin’ numbers in Iraq. Here’s a number you can take, Senatard: 382-5968. Spell it out on your phone pad an give it a call.
Comment by J Lewd — September 7, 2007 @ 7:15 pm
You’re “kickin’ ass and takin’ numbers in Iraq”, just like Napoleon did in Egypt in 1897 and the British in Mesopotamia in 1923. I laugh at you, my ignorant friend! Where are you? Somewhere in the USA?
September 7th, 2007 at 7:35 pmThis is great news from Sen. Graham about the success of America and our troops!
Comment by Brassmask — September 7, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
You got that right!!!
AMERICA IS KICKING SOME ISLAMIC ASS!!!!!!
Comment by Mr P — September 7, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
September 7th, 2007 at 7:53 pm#358
Comment by Cyrena — September 7, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
“So, as a reminder…over 1 mllion Iraqi civillians have died as a result of US military presense in Iraq.”
The vast majority of these Iraqi civilians have died as a result of Sunnis killing Shiites and vice versa. Where is THEIR accountability for their own actions? Just because someone gives you a gun doesn’t mean you have to use it.
Iraq is now the #2 nation on the Failed State Index, just behind Sudan, without any real measurable difference.
Are you referring to this BS index?
http://www.fundforpeace.org/programs/fsi/fsindex2006.php
Here is just a couple of samples:
“I2. Massive Movement of Refugees or Internally Displaced Persons creating Complex Humanitarian Emergencies
Forced uprooting of large communities as a result of random or targeted violence and/or repression, causing food shortages, disease, lack of clean water, land competition, and turmoil that can spiral into larger humanitarian and security problems, both within and between countries.”
On a scale of 1 to 10 with ten being the worst, the U.S. scores a 6 in the I2 category stated above but a country like Canada gets a 2.3? This it total BS. The U.S. is not in the mist of a civil war.
“I9. Suspension or Arbitrary Application of the Rule of Law and Widespread Violation of Human Rights
Emergence of authoritarian, dictatorial or military rule in which constitutional and democratic institutions and processes are suspended or manipulated. Outbreak of politically inspired (as opposed to criminal) violence against innocent civilians. Rising number of political prisoners or dissidents who are denied due process consistent with international norms and practices. Widespread abuse of legal, political and social rights, including those of individuals, groups or cultural institutions (e.g., harassment of the press, politicization of the judiciary, internal use of military for political ends, public repression of political opponents, religious or cultural persecution)”
The U.S. gets a 5 while coutries like France and Spain get 3.2 and 2.9 respectively? More total BS.
September 7th, 2007 at 7:57 pmAMERICA IS KICKING SOME ISLAMIC ASS!!!!!!
Comment by Mr P — September 7, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
Aryan race talk will get you nowhere, Mr P. Please understand that!
September 7th, 2007 at 8:02 pmGraham: We’re ‘Kicking Ass’ In Iraq, Political Reconciliation Likely ‘Within Weeks’
The terrorists and insurgents will sensibly see things from Bush’s viewpoint any day now.
Then they’ll go home, hang up their weapons, forget about the death and destruction, and start buying Coca Cola and shares in the stockmarket.
September 7th, 2007 at 8:42 pmThen they’ll go home, hang up their weapons, forget about the death and destruction, and start buying Coca Cola and shares in the stockmarket.
Comment by Martin Gifford — September 7, 2007 @ 8:42 pm
That may be . It wouldn’t be the first time it has happened but, the historical memory will remain and sooner, rather than lately, they’ll be back reclaiming the right of all Iraqis to live in their own land, free from outside interference. Just you wait and see!
September 7th, 2007 at 9:03 pmBush is an OIL WHOREBAG who sux the dixx of the Saudi FINANCIERS of Al Queda TERRORISTS.
Or course, Bush was FUNDED by the Bin Laden, so no surprise that he is a COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA…
September 7th, 2007 at 9:16 pmI’ll have what Graham’s having.
September 7th, 2007 at 9:17 pmBush is an OIL WHOREBAG who sux the dixx of the Saudi FINANCIERS of Al Queda TERRORISTS.
Or course, Bush was FUNDED by the Bin Laden, so no surprise that he is a COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA…
Any questions?
September 7th, 2007 at 9:35 pmMaybe Senator Graham thinks that things are so good in Iraq that he can now get TEN rugs for five bucks!
September 7th, 2007 at 11:49 pmThe “Kicking Ass” comment was also used by Chimpy in his conversation with John Howard. Guess it must be the top item on the Limpdick Talking Points memo for the week.
September 7th, 2007 at 11:51 pmLindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer. NO COMBAT DUTY. His eight visits to Iraq are the closest he’s ever been to active duty.
He’s clearly well equipped to make a call to keep sending our kids to die in Iraq.
September 8th, 2007 at 12:40 amWhatever happens will be superficial. Our occupation needs to end no matter what the Iraqis so.
We can still act to support Iraqi forces as need be, but we need to do so from a distance.
September 8th, 2007 at 1:02 amStill no osama thread? And he made the liberal case so well. At least as well as any prog poster here. ;)
September 8th, 2007 at 1:06 am“Bush is an OIL WHOREBAG who sux the dixx of the Saudi FINANCIERS of Al Queda TERRORISTS.
Or course, Bush was FUNDED by the Bin Laden, so no surprise that he is a COXUCKER punk TRAITOR to the USA…
Any questions?
Comment by JoeCaribe — September 7, 2007 @ 9:35 pm”
No questions, merely a statement: Quit with the Bush envy.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:41 am“The terrorists and insurgents will sensibly see things from Bush’s viewpoint any day now.
Then they’ll go home, hang up their weapons, forget about the death and destruction, and start buying Coca Cola and shares in the stockmarket.
Comment by Martin Gifford — September 7, 2007 @ 8:42 pm”
They will, or they will continue to either die, or be “guests” of the United States at Guantanamo, or other “retreats from the stresses of Jihad” around the world.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:44 amWhat really confounds me is how you liberals hang on to every negative word concerning everything the United States does, yet have have such a hard time with anything that can be even remotely considered good news.
Why not simply hope and pray that Lindsey Graham is correct?
Are you that invested in defeat that you are actually hoping and praying for failure?
Liberalism = All negative, all the time.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:47 amTP asks, “What did we miss? Let us know in the comments section.â€
Lets’s see……TP missed the binLaden tape. Hmmm…. Why?
Could it be the commonality of prog collaborators & bin Laden?
Let’s see:
BOTH Progs & OBL despise George Bush…..
September 8th, 2007 at 10:44 amBOTH Progs & OBL want the US out of Iraq…..
BOTH Progs & OBL blame US/Israeli/Mid East policy for jihadism….
BOTH Progs & OBL despise the corporate culture of capitalism….
BOTH Progs & OBL are “concerned†about global warming….
BOTH Progs & OBL are strangely invested in re-capturing their “youthâ€.
Bush and OBL are the BEST OF BUDDIES.
Bush was FINANCED by the Bin Ladens in his failed oil businesses, although HE profited by insider trading.
Bush had the Bin Ladens flown out of the US under restricted air space after 9/11.
Saleem Bin Laden was at the Ritz Carlton in DC with Daddy Bush and the Carlyle Group on 9/11.
70 years of Bush TREASON against the USA, starting with Nazi Grampa…
September 8th, 2007 at 2:03 pm“Liberalism = All negative, all the time.”
Incorrect. For me, liberalism means “my mind possesses some ability to change and learn,” which is a very happy, happy thing.
My impression is that people like you can’t stand that. I could be wrong.
Happy, happy. Joy joy.
September 8th, 2007 at 3:00 pm“Comment by mighty aphrodite”
How greatly your incoherent slop has been missed!
September 8th, 2007 at 3:01 pm‘It’s the daily newsletter from the writers of Think Surrender. Featuring hard-hitting censorship and suppression of facts you can’t find anywhere else.’
Yeah right; and what freaking ‘facts’ did Graham lay out to support his glowing review?
At least he’s not bragging about how many rugs he ripped off from another hapless vendor on this trip.
Wonder how many brave troops he had guarding his sorry ass this time.
What a dick.
September 8th, 2007 at 4:59 pm“I2. Massive Movement of Refugees or Internally Displaced Persons creating Complex Humanitarian Emergencies
Forced uprooting of large communities as a result of random or targeted violence and/or repression, causing food shortages, disease, lack of clean water, land competition, and turmoil that can spiral into larger humanitarian and security problems, both within and between countries.â€
You said, “This it total BS. The U.S. is not in the mist of a civil war.â€
Hurricane Katrina was the costliest and one of the deadliest hurricanes in the history of the U.S. Nearly every levee in metro New Orleans breached as Hurricane Katrina passed east of the city, subsequently flooding 80% of the city and many areas of neighboring parish for weeks. Approximately one million people had fled the city and its surrounding suburbs by the evening of August 28, 2005 The Department of Homeland Security estimates that 1,197,499 homes were left damaged or destroyed by the three storms that occurred in 2005. [4] Damage from Katrina alone has been estimated to include 850,791 homes. “By July 1, 2006 when new population estimates were calculated by the U.S. Census Bureau, the state of Louisiana showed a population decline of 219,563, or 4.87%.The number of homicides in Houston from September 2005 through Febuary 2006 went up by 23% relative to the same period a year before; 29 of the 170 murders involved displaced Louisianans as a victim or as a suspect.
“On a scale of 1 to 10 with ten being the worst, the U.S. scores a 6 in the I2 category stated above but a country like Canada gets a 2.3? This it total BS.â€
Can you name any anything in Canada of 2005 that was worse. Read and think more carefully.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:20 pmLindsey Graham…
…is about to become…
…politically extinct…
…that’s just the beginning for this Bushophile…
September 9th, 2007 at 1:07 am#387
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 8, 2007 @ 11:20 pm
“Forced uprooting of large communities as a result of random or targeted violence and/or repression….”
“Can you name any anything in Canada of 2005 that was worse. Read and think more carefully.”
The above definition in this category is referring to internal strife and fighting which is what what people people to be displaced which is kin to exactly what happens during a CIVIL WAR. Natural disasters like a hurricane were NOT even a variable in the equation. Where did you pull the crap from? Canada and the U.S. political stability are about equal, so for the U.S. to get a much worse mark is total BS. I think you need to read more carefully and not try to make up your own criteria.
September 9th, 2007 at 3:29 pmSorry you are wrong tracy, the definition of violence in not restricted to armed conflict or civil war. i have no idea why you would think so. READ READ. IT says VIOLENCE. Not ARMED CONFLCIT. READ it says VIOLENCE. IT even says RANDOM VIOLENCE. READ, READ.
Forced uprooting of large communities as a result of random or targeted violence and/or repression
It doesn’t say THAT the definiton is restricted to mean only CIVIL WAR.
LAST time i looked at the dictionary the word violence had more than one meaning. Maybe you don’t own one so i will help you
American heritage dictionary:
3. Intensity or severity, as in natural phenomemna; untamed force: the violence of a hurricane.
Websters dictionary:
3 a : intense, turbulent, or furious and often destructive action or force: the violence of the storm
Again read the definition:
Forced uprooting of large communities as a result of random or targeted violence and/or repression…
Clearly the criteria is meant to include both man made conflict or natural distaster.
Hope that helps you.
September 9th, 2007 at 5:37 pmLindsey Graham, Oct. 1, 2007:
“I didn’t say that. I said there may be a major breakthrough on the benchmarks regarding political reconciliation.”
September 9th, 2007 at 5:55 pmComment by Moosbrugger — September 9, 2007 @ 5:37 pm
“It doesn’t say THAT the definiton is restricted to mean only CIVIL WAR. ”
I never said that it is ONLY restricted to civil war.
“Clearly the criteria is meant to include both man made conflict or natural distaster.”
Well if that is what you think it means the we will just have to disagree. I don’t think that natural phenomena is what they are referring to at all considering ALL of the other indicators listed deal with human caused problems.
Please read this from the president of the FFP and tell me where you think that this index the this organization produces refers to any thing but human interaction.
http://www.fundforpeace.org/thefund/president.php
Clearly this site and the index rating system, if you were to choose to browse thru it, deals with human activity, not natural disasters.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:14 amYou said, “Natural disasters like a hurricane were NOT even a variable in the equation. . . I think you need to read more carefully and not try to make up your own criteria.†Did you even bother to read a single assessment? Here word for word is an assessment of El Salvador.
“El Salvador was hit by two natural disasters in 2005, causing the indicator scores for demographic pressures and internally displaced persons to rise. In May 2005, fears of massive damage from Hurricane Adrian caused over 20,000 people to flee their homes. In October 2005, several thousand residents fled or were evacuated from villages when El Salvador’s highest volcano erupted, sending lava the size of cars and boiling mud and water into surrounding areas. Demographic pressures increased from a 5.0 in the Failed States Index 2005 (FSI 2005) to an 8.5 in the FSI 2006. Refugees and internally displaced persons rose from a 5.0 in the FSI 2005 to a 6.1 in the FSI 2006.â€
N.B. no mention of armed conflict or civil strife. The rise in the I1 and I2. score was due to natural phenomenon. Therefore, your contention that , “Natural disasters like a hurricane were NOT even a variable in the [I2] equation†is clearly incorrect. In the case of El Salvador , natural phenomenon is the primary “variable.†I think you need to read more carefully and not try to make up your own criteria. ☺ peace
September 10th, 2007 at 10:21 amYou said,” I don’t think that natural phenomena is what they are referring to at all considering ALL of the other indicators listed deal with human caused problems.”
Another example where natural disaster is cause to a rise and fall in the social indicatorS. Indicators 1-4 by the way are described as a social indicator on their website. Again word for word. . .
“Hurricane Jeanne caused extensive damage in the Dominican Republic in 2004, killing over 20 people and as many as 2,000 in neighboring Haiti. The hurricane was largely responsible for the high ratings of MANY of the indicators in the 2005 Failed States Index (FSI 2005), especially the social indicators. A high unemployment rate of 17 percent also contributed to the high rating for demographic pressures. Most ratings went down in the FSI 2006 as the country began to recover. The rating for demographic pressures fell from a 9.0 to a 7.8 and the indicator for displaced persons fell from an 8.0 to a 7.0 as damaged homes were rebuilt and the economy improved.”
N.B. no mention of armed conflict or civil strife. The rise in the I1 and I2. Score in 2005 was due to natural phenomenon. Therefore, your contention that “I don’t think that natural phenomena is what they are referring to at all considering ALL of the other indicators listed deal with (only) human caused problems,” is clearly incorrect.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:31 amAnd Another:
“Except for refugees, Papua New Guinea received high ratings for most of the social indicators. Demographic pressures were rated 8.0 because of a high population growth rate of 2.21%, a young population (37.8% under the age of 15) and a life expectancy of 65 years. The population growth rates in some of the provinces are well above the national average, with the highest in the Southern Highlands province at 5.4%. Land disputes between the highland tribes have also become more common due to population pressures. The rating for refugees and displaced persons was very low due to the lack of a significant number of refugees and IDPs, although the inhabitants from Papua New Guinea’s Carteret Islands are being displaced by rising sea levels.”
( again no armed conflict here, but people are being displace by yet another kind of natural phenomenon or untamed force, rising sea levels.)
September 10th, 2007 at 10:33 amThe Philippines received high ratings for most of the social indicators. Demographic pressures was rated 7.0 in both the Failed States Index (FSI) 2005 and the FSI 2006 due to a population growth rate of 1.8%, a young population (35% under the age of 15) and severe environmental degradation. The indicator for refugees and displaced persons also received a rating of 7.0 in the FSI 2005, but it improved significantly to 5.5 in the FSI 2006. There were about 150,000 IDPs as a result of fighting between government troops and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) and Abu Sayyaf rebel groups. Floods and mudslides in November and December of 2004 killed hundreds of people and displaced many more, resulting in the higher rating in the FSI 2005.
(Oh look armed conflict AND natural disaster as a cause… impossible. I think not. Why you ask? Because the criteria is carefully written to include both man made conflict and/or natural phenomenon.
You said “On a scale of 1 to 10 with ten being the worst, the U.S. scores a 6 in the I2 category stated above but a country like Canada gets a 2.3? This it total BS.”
THINK KATRINA
Hope that helps you.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:35 amHey Tracy, check out this link it might help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
September 10th, 2007 at 10:40 am#394
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 10, 2007 @ 10:33 am
You are correct. I do question the index rating system though. For instance, drawing on my incorrect assumption and you correction you provided why does Japan have a 1 rating in the I2 category considering their severe frequency of earthquakes and hurricanes? Why is Cuba rated lower in this category than the U.S.?
I assume that since you didn’t comment on this part of a previous post…
“I9. Suspension or Arbitrary Application of the Rule of Law and Widespread Violation of Human Rights
Emergence of authoritarian, dictatorial or military rule in which constitutional and democratic institutions and processes are suspended or manipulated. Outbreak of politically inspired (as opposed to criminal) violence against innocent civilians. Rising number of political prisoners or dissidents who are denied due process consistent with international norms and practices. Widespread abuse of legal, political and social rights, including those of individuals, groups or cultural institutions (e.g., harassment of the press, politicization of the judiciary, internal use of military for political ends, public repression of political opponents, religious or cultural persecution)â€
The U.S. gets a 5 while coutries like France and Spain get 3.2 and 2.9 respectively? More total BS.
Comment by Tracy — September 7, 2007 @ 7:57 pm”
…you understand why I question the rating system?
September 10th, 2007 at 2:44 pmwhy does Japan have a 1 rating in the I2 category considering their severe frequency of earthquakes and hurricanes?
Severe frequency would have little to do with it. A high frequency of earthquakes and hurricanes doesn’t necessarily cause Massive Movement of Refugees or Internally Displaced Persons creating Complex Humanitarian Emergencies. Also, Bear in mind that a countries ability to respond to a complex humanitarian emergence would affect the outcome.
Why does Japan have a 1 rating? I don’t know. Maybe they have a really good emergency response system to these types of events. Scratch that maybe they have the best. But like I said frequency doesn’t necessarily cause. . . and maybe Japan has the infrastructure to meet those demands.
you understand why I question the rating system?
No, but I understand why you might be curious about Japans exceptionally low rating. Maybe you should write and ask. It’s a fair question.
September 10th, 2007 at 4:22 pmI assume that since you didn’t comment on this part of a previous post…
I don’t have the assessment for the U.S. It’s not on the website. But here is what the president said in an interview:
JERRY FOWLER: One thing that is referred to in the report that might surprise a lot of people is this idea of “pockets of failure†in countries such as the United States which otherwise are quite stable.
PAULINE BAKER: The United States did not come out in the category of most stable. We had five categories there, and Canada and the Scandinavian countries came out actually better than the United States. In the case of the United States, the drawbacks were—as you indicated—the response to Katrina which showed real disfunctionality or pockets of failure, and also the whole debate and activities regarding human rights with Guantanamo, the debate over torture, rendition; the United States slipped back from where it use to be on being really an ideal country promoting human rights and that is due to the war on terror. While in no means is this to suggest that the United States is a failing state, it does have pockets of either disfunctionality or backsliding on some of these indicators that I think we have to pay attention to.
http://www.ushmm.org/conscience/analysis/details.php?content=2006-06-01
September 10th, 2007 at 4:38 pm#400
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 10, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
“…the United States slipped back from where it use to be on being really an ideal country promoting human rights and that is due to the war on terror.”
I wonder why Western European countries haven’t been called for their rampant racism and violation of human rights when it comes to their surpression of their emerging Muslim population. For Baker to point out Gitmo as an example of WIDESPREAD human rights abuses by the U.S. is total garbage especially when France’s and Spain’s societies repress the human rights of their Muslim populations in their countries on a daily basis and have been since the end of WW2.
September 10th, 2007 at 5:33 pmFor Baker to point out Gitmo as an example of WIDESPREAD human rights abuses by the U.S. is total garbage especially when France’s and Spain’s societies repress the human rights of their Muslim populations in their countries on a daily basis and have been since the end of WW2.
A. She doesn’t point out Gitmo as an example of WIDESPEAD human rights abuses. Her statement is measured. “While in no means is this to suggest that the United States is a failing state, it does have pockets of either disfunctionality or backsliding on some of these indicators that I think we have to pay attention to.†Seriously where did she say WIDESPEAD?! I don’t see it.
September 10th, 2007 at 6:50 pmB. Her answer is given in response to a question concerning the U.S. In the above passage she makes no mention of Spain or France not having problems. Seriously, where does she say in the above except that France and Spain do not have problems.?!
C. I think you should check out this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Seriously, where does she say in the above excerpt that France and Spain do not have problems.?!
September 10th, 2007 at 8:03 pm#402 and #403
She clearly cited Gitmo as one of the reasons for “backsliding” on inidicators of human rights abuses by the U.S. and all I am saying is that this RARE incident involving very few people should have made it not worth mentioning. Second of all you have also to be of the OPINION the what is going on in Gitmo constitutes human rights abuse, considering most of those who are being held there are trained LIARS.
The index cites France and Spain as scoring much better when it comes to human rights abuse than the U.S. I was just making a the point that the ratings of France and Spain are very skewed in reality in my opinion.
September 10th, 2007 at 9:53 pmDear Tracy, your an idiot
September 10th, 2007 at 10:22 pmDear Moosbrugger, you’re a jerk.
September 11th, 2007 at 1:00 amfair enough :)
September 11th, 2007 at 1:51 am#407
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 1:51 am
So you start the name calling because you think your are right and you didn’t like my comments? What particular comment in my last post prompted it? Calling someone an idiot just because you don’t like their answer pretty much invalidates the insult.
BTW when Baker said there is a “debate over torture” she then continues on to state that the U.S. has “slipped back” from being a country that promoted human rights, as a result of the war on terror, i.e. specifically the DEBATE over what is and isn’t torture. Well if there is a debate on this subject then how can she say if the U.S. has slipped back as far as human rights promotion?
September 11th, 2007 at 11:59 amall I am saying is that this RARE incident involving very few people should have made it not worth mentioning. Second of all you have also to be of the OPINION the what is going on in Gitmo constitutes human rights abuse, considering most of those who are being held there are trained LIARS.
It clear you do not know what Human Rights are.
I suggest you educate yourself. Read about the U.S.
A. http://www.ihf-hr.org/documents/doc_summary.php?sec_id=3&d_id=4387
September 11th, 2007 at 12:17 pmCalling someone an idiot just because you don’t like their answer pretty much invalidates the insult.
Its not that i don’t like the answer, it just a bad answer, a thoughtless answer, the kind of answer only an idiot could believe or espouse.
September 11th, 2007 at 1:16 pm#410
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
Then Baker is an idiot. First for stating that there IS an ongoing debate with what is going on down in Gitmo is considered torture and then saying in the same quote that the U.S. has slipped in human rights promotion.
“Its not that i don’t like the answer, it just a bad answer, a thoughtless answer, the kind of answer only an idiot could believe or espouse.”
A bad answer? A thoughtless answer? Considering it’s only your OPINION and can be defended by using YOUR own cited quote, you can really call me an idiot and think it’s valid. Maybe you are the idiot for contradicting yourself.
September 11th, 2007 at 1:33 pm#409
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
Who made this organization the speaker for human rights and/or those rights which they mention are to be universally accepted? Where does this organization have the right to basically produce a constitution? Human rights expressed by this organization are NOT universally accepted, nor should they be.
September 11th, 2007 at 1:47 pmTracy you need meds
September 11th, 2007 at 1:51 pmyou should also get your GED or finish highschool
September 11th, 2007 at 1:53 pmJudging from your comments you need to follow your own advice or actually provide a thoughtful comment. At this point, I am not counting on it.
September 11th, 2007 at 3:31 pmAs soon as you have a thoughful comment, i will respond.
September 11th, 2007 at 7:19 pmSecond of all you have also to be of the OPINION the what is going on in Gitmo constitutes human rights abuse, considering most of those who are being held there are trained LIARS.
On 10 June 2006, the Department of Defense reported that three Guantánamo Bay captives committed suicide. The military reported the men hanged themselves with nooses made of sheets and clothes. One of the men was first detained when he was a juvenile. They each had been imprisoned for the past four years, but never charged with a crime. Before June 10, the Department of Defense acknowledged there had been 41 suicide attempts at the camp. On 24 August 2006, the 24 year old Murat Kurnaz was released from the base. He claimed to have been exposed to water torture, sexual harassment and desecration of Islam while staying on Guantanamo. The documentary “Prisoner 345″, interviews other former captives, Sami al-Hajj and Moazzam Beg, making similar claims of harassment.
September 11th, 2007 at 7:23 pmThe closing-down of the Guantánamo Prison has been requested by Amnesty International (May 2005), the United Nations (February 2006) and the European Union (May 2006).
September 11th, 2007 at 7:24 pmOn 6 September 2006, President Bush announced that enemy combatants held by the CIA will be transferred to the custody of DOD, and held at Guantánamo Prison. Among approximately 500 prisoners in Guantánamo Bay, only 10 have been tried by the Guantanamo military commission, but all cases have been stayed pending the adjustments being made to comply with the Hamdan decision by the U.S. Supreme Court.
What happen to innocent till proven guilty
September 11th, 2007 at 7:25 pmWhat about habeus corpus?
September 11th, 2007 at 7:25 pmJapanese American Internment was the forced removal and internment of approximately 120,000[1] Japanese and Japanese Americans (62 percent of whom were United States citizens)[2][3] from the West Coast of the United States during World War II.
In 1988, President Ronald Reagan signed legislation which apologized for the internment on behalf of the U.S. government. The legislation stated that government actions were based on “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership”,[6] and beginning in 1990, the government paid reparations to surviving internees.
September 11th, 2007 at 7:28 pmSmaller scale same shit
September 11th, 2007 at 7:28 pm#417
“On 24 August 2006, the 24 year old Murat Kurnaz was released from the base. He claimed to have been exposed to water torture, sexual harassment and desecration of Islam while staying on Guantanamo.”
So where is his proof? This is a he said she said case. I am not denying OR confirming that it happened. You should not be so quick to automatically believe the accused. If this guy wasn’t picked up on the battle field then there should have been charges filed or he should have been released much earlier. If he was picked up on the BATTLEFIELD fighting U.S. soldiers, however, then he was an enemy combatant where due process in a criminal proceeding is not how he should be treated. Military tribunals should be conducted on a individual basis, but for some reason people keep looking at these thugs at Gitmo (the NON U.S. CITIZENS) as criminals that have a right to due process. They are NOT criminals. And as for the ones that are U.S. citizens that are picked up on the battlefield shooting at their OWN soldiers, should be given due process ONLY in a military tribunal, and NOT a U.S. court (John Walker). They too are enemy combatants. When you take up arms against U.S. soldiers you are an enemy combatant. The multiple cases where people have been incorrectly classified as an enemy combatant is something that need to be fixed pronto.
September 13th, 2007 at 1:31 pmOn November 30, 2004, The New York Times published excerpts from an internal memo leaked from the U.S. administration,[94] referring to a report from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC)
September 13th, 2007 at 4:17 pmThe ICRC reports of several activities which, it said, were “tantamount to torture”: exposure to loud noise or music, prolonged extreme temperatures, or beatings. It also reported that a behavior science team (BSCT), also called ‘Biscuit’, and military physicians communicated confidential medical information to the interrogation teams (weaknesses, phobias, etc.), resulting in the prisoners losing confidence in their medical care.
#420
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
Does U.S. habeus corpus apply to foreign nationals?
September 13th, 2007 at 7:21 pm#421
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
As they should have been. I don’t think however these Japanese Americans were caught taking up arms with Japan to fight the U.S. If you are trying to compare these people with those at Gitmo, who BTW are foreign nationals, NOT American citizens, it’s a poor comparison.
September 13th, 2007 at 7:27 pm#421
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 7:28 pm
When I said “As they should have been”, I was referring to those who were paid reparations for their internment.
September 13th, 2007 at 7:29 pm#424
Comment by Moosbrugger — September 13, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
I believe there have been instances of torture at Gitmo. I also believe that, as I stated earlier, many of the detainees are trained LIARS. Al Qaeda’s training manual explicitly talks about it.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/manualpart1.html
Look at page 16 here, i.e. Lesson 18
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/manualpart1_4.pdf
September 13th, 2007 at 7:42 pm