Comment by Moosbrugger — September 13, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

I believe there have been instances of torture at Gitmo. I also believe that, as I stated earlier, many of the detainees are trained LIARS. Al Qaeda’s training manual explicitly talks about it.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/manualpart1.html

Look at page 16 here, i.e. Lesson 18

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/manualpart1_4.pdf

Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 7:28 pm

When I said “As they should have been”, I was referring to those who were paid reparations for their internment.

Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 7:28 pm

As they should have been. I don’t think however these Japanese Americans were caught taking up arms with Japan to fight the U.S. If you are trying to compare these people with those at Gitmo, who BTW are foreign nationals, NOT American citizens, it’s a poor comparison.

Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 7:25 pm

Does U.S. habeus corpus apply to foreign nationals?

“On 24 August 2006, the 24 year old Murat Kurnaz was released from the base. He claimed to have been exposed to water torture, sexual harassment and desecration of Islam while staying on Guantanamo.”

So where is his proof? This is a he said she said case. I am not denying OR confirming that it happened. You should not be so quick to automatically believe the accused. If this guy wasn’t picked up on the battle field then there should have been charges filed or he should have been released much earlier. If he was picked up on the BATTLEFIELD fighting U.S. soldiers, however, then he was an enemy combatant where due process in a criminal proceeding is not how he should be treated. Military tribunals should be conducted on a individual basis, but for some reason people keep looking at these thugs at Gitmo (the NON U.S. CITIZENS) as criminals that have a right to due process. They are NOT criminals. And as for the ones that are U.S. citizens that are picked up on the battlefield shooting at their OWN soldiers, should be given due process ONLY in a military tribunal, and NOT a U.S. court (John Walker). They too are enemy combatants. When you take up arms against U.S. soldiers you are an enemy combatant. The multiple cases where people have been incorrectly classified as an enemy combatant is something that need to be fixed pronto.

In 1988, President Ronald Reagan signed legislation which apologized for the internment on behalf of the U.S. government. The legislation stated that government actions were based on “race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership”,[6] and beginning in 1990, the government paid reparations to surviving internees.

On 10 June 2006, the Department of Defense reported that three Guantánamo Bay captives committed suicide. The military reported the men hanged themselves with nooses made of sheets and clothes. One of the men was first detained when he was a juvenile. They each had been imprisoned for the past four years, but never charged with a crime. Before June 10, the Department of Defense acknowledged there had been 41 suicide attempts at the camp. On 24 August 2006, the 24 year old Murat Kurnaz was released from the base. He claimed to have been exposed to water torture, sexual harassment and desecration of Islam while staying on Guantanamo. The documentary “Prisoner 345″, interviews other former captives, Sami al-Hajj and Moazzam Beg, making similar claims of harassment.

Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 12:17 pm

Who made this organization the speaker for human rights and/or those rights which they mention are to be universally accepted? Where does this organization have the right to basically produce a constitution? Human rights expressed by this organization are NOT universally accepted, nor should they be.

Comment by Moosbrugger — September 11, 2007 @ 12:17 pm

Then Baker is an idiot. First for stating that there IS an ongoing debate with what is going on down in Gitmo is considered torture and then saying in the same quote that the U.S. has slipped in human rights promotion.

“Its not that i don’t like the answer, it just a bad answer, a thoughtless answer, the kind of answer only an idiot could believe or espouse.”

A bad answer? A thoughtless answer? Considering it’s only your OPINION and can be defended by using YOUR own cited quote, you can really call me an idiot and think it’s valid. Maybe you are the idiot for contradicting yourself.

Its not that i don’t like the answer, it just a bad answer, a thoughtless answer, the kind of answer only an idiot could believe or espouse.

A. http://www.ihf-hr.org/documents/doc_summary.php?sec_id=3&d_id=4387