On Friday, 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden issued a new videotape in which he said, among other statements, that he will “escalate the killing and fighting against” Americans.
Yesterday, CNN Justice Correspondent Kelli Arena compared bin Laden’s tape to the writings of an “angry blogger”:
An obvious news junkie with a lot of time on his hands he makes several references to current affairs proof that the videotape is a new one. … At times he comes off like an angry blogger chastising Americans for electing President Bush twice and the Democrats for not doing more to stop the Iraq war.
Watch it:
The media continue to equate progressives with terrorists, echoing the rhetoric of the Bush administration. As ThinkProgress highlighted earlier today, New York Times columnist David Brooks yesterday said that in the newest tape, bin Laden sounds like he has been “reading lefty blogs.”
Right-wing bloggers have also joined in. At Hot Air, Allahpundit claimed bin Laden sounded like a “socialist icon,” invoking many of the same passages Brooks did. At Political Vindication, Uncle Seth the Noble went further, claiming bin Laden sounded like Daily Kos’s Markos Moulitsas. Frank J, a Pajamas Media blogger, concluded “Kos has to get this guy as a diarist before HuffPo does.”
E-mail CNN and request that the network stop equating progressive bloggers with bin Laden.
(HT: TP commenter Dan)
UPDATE: In 2004, Arena baselessly claimed that there is “some speculation that Al Qaeda believes it has a better chance of winning in Iraq if John Kerry is in the White House.”
UPDATE II: On his radio show Friday, John Gibson compared MSNBC Keith Olbermann’s Special Comment segment to bin Laden’s tape.
Transcript:
KELLI ARENA: Experts say it is an effort to re-establish his relevance. Bin Laden remains a unifying figure for the many terror groups that have drawn inspiration if not actual support from al Qaeda.
JOHN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: He gets to reach out to followers, who according to jihadist Web sites have been wondering where is the leader and he also gets to rail about the Iraq war which is his strongest propaganda point.
ARENA: An obvious news junkie with a lot of time on his hands he makes several references to current affairs proof that the videotape is a new one. He refers to a news report from Iraq that aired in July, the 62nd anniversary of Nagasaki (ph) and Hiroshima (ph), this past August. He names the new French president who was elected in May and the U.S. mortgage crisis. But bin Laden’s commentary is not prompting change in security.
FRANCES TOWNSEND, W.H. HOMELAND SECURITY ADVISER: We don’t have specific or credible information indicating an imminent attack and so I would not anticipate any change in the threat level, certainly not because of the tape.
ARENA: At times he comes off like an angry blogger chastising Americans for electing President Bush twice and the Democrats for not doing more to stop the Iraq war.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
ARENA: But bin Laden’s need to stay in the spotlight may also put him at risk.
Yes the lib blogers are fascist and so is he.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:17 pmCOULD THESE ROVIAN TALKING POINTS BE ANY MORE TRANSPARENT?
HALF OF THEM ARE EQUATING OLBERMANN WITH BIN LADEN.
The reason Bush went to Iraq last week was to BEG the leadership not to change their oil revenue structure. He failed.
Iraq got the nod from the UN to tell the US and BIG OIL to go piss off.
Cheney and Bush are left to contemplate what form of extreme measures they will take to get their way. Bush also begged the Military leadership to back the bombing of Iran, but they told him NO.
The war criminals and their co-conspirators are feeling boxed in. The Bin Laden tape is a response to that. Total CIA fabrication.
THERE IS NO BIN LADEN. IT’S AN ALGERIAN ACTOR.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:18 pmFor those of you who actually believe that Bin Laden was involved in the 9/11 attacks, the FBI Most Wanted web site disagrees with you, and so does Wikipedia:
“The FBI does not yet have ‘hard evidence’ linking him to the 9/11 attacks and so as of 2006 he has only been indicted on the embassy murders; he is officially still only a suspect in ‘other terrorist attacks throughout the world’.”
http://www.fbi.gov/ wanted/ topten/ fugitives/ laden.htm
To each of you - go ahead, tell me again about the one where Osama Bin Laden attacked America on 9/11.
Anybody?
Anybody?
Have you actually LOOKED at the person in the fake Bin Laden video?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html
The FBI declines to confirm its authenticity.
BECAUSE IT’S FAKE!
BIN LADEN DID NOT ATTACK US ON 9/11.
THE FBI CONFIRMS IT.
So if Bush tells you every day that Bin Laden attacked US on 9/11, and the experts say he has not been heard from and that all of these so-called Bin Laden pronouncements since 9/11 are fake, what does that tell you about who REALLY committed 9/11?
September 8th, 2007 at 9:19 pmEmail CNN for what? You think they’re going to listen to “The American People” (whoever the hell they are). We are irrelevant to the so-called media, we dont buy airtime so we dont matter, so let them say what they want, there will be a day when the so-called media will come “home”.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:22 pm“angry blogger” …
the righty’s newest, most misunderstood boogey man…
which is odd, because the angriest ones ARE the righties…
September 8th, 2007 at 9:24 pm…
Media ownership study ordered destroyed
Sept 14, 2006
‘Every last piece’ destroyed
Adam Candeub, now a law professor at Michigan State University, said senior managers at the agency ordered that “every last piece” of the report be destroyed. “The whole project was just stopped - end of discussion,” he said. Candeub was a lawyer in the FCC’s Media Bureau at the time the report was written and communicated frequently with its authors, he said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/
“You can’t tell any more the difference between what’s propaganda and what’s news.”
FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein
15 August, 2006
http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2006/ 08/ 16/ national/ main1900602.shtm
September 8th, 2007 at 9:24 pmWhen the truth of this ENTIRE CONSPIRACY is finally revealed to the American people, they will be pissed off enough to not only throw the bums out, but to boycott the Mainstream Media that enabled it.
CNN Continues to run banner ads all over the web proclaiming that you can walk “IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF BIN LADEN” - a promo for a show that they now run every week.
THIS IS GOVERNMENT SPONSORED PROPAGANDA.
BIN LADEN IS DEAD.
And now this gem from Government Propaganda Network FOX:
Bin Laden’s Former Girlfriend Reveals Shocking Details in New Book
Monday, August 21, 2006
By John Gibson
Bin Laden had the hots for Whitney Houston.
That’s what we’re learning from Kola Boof, the Sudanese poet and novelist whose new book “Diary of a Lost Girl” draws on her experiences as one of bid Laden’s girlfriends. Actually she says she was bin Laden’s sex slave for a while.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209691,00.html
EARTH TO AMERICA…
IT IS ALL GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA!
THEY STILL WANT YOU TO FEAR A GUY WHO IS DEAD.
For those of you who actually believe that Bin Laden was involved in the 9/11 attacks, the FBI Most Wanted web site disagrees with you, and so does Wikipedia:
“The FBI does not yet have ‘hard evidence’ linking him to the 9/11 attacks and so as of 2006 he has only been indicted on the embassy murders; he is officially still only a suspect in ‘other terrorist attacks throughout the world’.”
http://www.fbi.gov/ wanted/ topten/ fugitives/ laden.htm
September 8th, 2007 at 9:25 pm“blog” ?
at this point an Osama bin Laden MySpace page would be far more appropriate, communicative, and credible.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:27 pmKelli Arena?
Isn’t she the weather girl?
September 8th, 2007 at 9:30 pmINSIDER INTELLIGENCE REPORT:
Bush-bin Laden Tape a Fake - Bush’s Latest Trick
September 8th, 2007 at 9:33 pmhttp://blog.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel
Ace: do you even know what hard evidence means? The FBI said they don’t have “hard evidence” that bin Laden committed 9/11, but that is not the same as having no evidence. That is semantic dishonesty used by conspiracy theorists to back up their silliness. If you look at the majority of quotes used as proof by 9/11 conspiracy theorists and then trace them back to the original text they are usually taken completely out of context.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:36 pmI am a liberal, progressive blogger, but I have to admit that Bin Ladin did sound like he was echoing the points that progressive bloggers have been making. I do not think that it was poor journalism on CNN’s part for pointing out the obvious.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:38 pmIt is poor journalism to turn them into personal insults like most of the right wing bloggers have, such as Political Vindication and Pajama’s Media did.
Kelli Arena and David Brooks did not “equate (sic) progressive bloggers with bin Laden.” They simply pointed out the obvious fact that he sounded like he had been reading them.
Liberal bloggers should be spending their time pointing out that because of the failed right wing agenda, Bin Ladin is still alive to make these remarks.
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Comment by Prophet Mahomet ibn Abdallah — September 8, 2007 @ 9:30
You’re still a failure Mr. Pee-Brain, and you always will be.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:41 pmOne more thing to consider - exactly WHERE did this tape COME FROM?
Normally Osama boy tapes were released on islamic web pages or given to Al Jazeera in a package. Now, however, Osama skipped all that jazz and gave the tape straight to CNN…
Riiiiiiiight :-D
September 8th, 2007 at 9:42 pm#
Ace: do you even know what hard evidence means? The FBI said they don’t have “hard evidence†that bin Laden committed 9/11, but that is not the same as having no evidence. That is semantic dishonesty used by conspiracy theorists to back up their silliness. If you look at the majority of quotes used as proof by 9/11 conspiracy theorists and then trace them back to the original text they are usually taken completely out of context.
Comment by Shane — September 8, 2007 @ 9:36 pm
Shane:
TRY TO BE HONEST:
Have you EVER heard the media or the administration make any effort whatsoever to intimate that even the remotest possibility exists that Bin Laden had no role whatsoever in 9/11?
EVERY mainstream media correspondent and EVERY politician parrots the official “Bin Laden Did It” LIE without any effort to tell Americans that this CONSPIRACY THEORY, created by the government, remains unproven.
Bush doesn’t have HARD EVIDENCE either.
there is however HARD EVIDENCE that the DANICING ISRAELIS were directly involved in 9/11, and that the 100 “Israeli Art Students” (Mossad Agents) were here in advance of 9/11 to enable it.
What’s your point?
Who do you represent?
September 8th, 2007 at 9:43 pmStacy 11, you still dont get it?
The reason why bin laden supports ALL progressive causes is because thats the text that the US propaganda specialists gave that actor to read.
This is done to rile up the 30% base, for them to see that “all libs are traitors, because osama supports Chomsky, global warming initiative and democrats”.
He also advised us americans about mortgages.
Really Stacy post 11, just think about how absurd this sounds…
I know - take a deep breath, get a glass of coffee/tea/soda and start to think about it logically.
It will take you 20 seconds probably before you burst out laughing about this “osama” tape and then start to get really mad and start asking questions.
Cheers! :-D
September 8th, 2007 at 9:46 pmgreat comments… bin laden = bloggers is a talking point pure and simple… you have to admire their ability to march in lock step…
September 8th, 2007 at 9:46 pmIt’s fairly obvious, this is not Bin Laden.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:46 pmStacy:
The “poor Journalism” originates from the assumption that this tape is authentic and not a government fabrication.
Haven’t you noticed the willingness of the media to accept at face value that these perfectly timed Osama appearances is merely a coincidence?
The JOB of a journalist is to ASK PROBING QUESTIONS - like “where the hell did this come from, why is it so out of focus, who died Osama’s beard and why now?”
Do you really think it’s a coincidence that the administration is comparing Bin Laden’s words to those of us who are on to their lies?
WAKE UP.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:47 pmShane,
September 8th, 2007 at 9:48 pmFBI does not have enough evidence to indict Bin Laden on 9/11, period. It’s not like they have physical evidence for Bin Laden’s connection with the embassy bombings either. There is obviously a difference in the level of evidence, and 9/11 has not reached the adequate threshold. Which is unbelievable. Sorry the truth disappoints you.
Comment by Prophet Mahomet ibn Abdallah — September 8, 2007 @ 9:47 pm
Oh look, it’s Mr. P - the constant weasel - mossad agent.
Tell us all about the Zionist’s role in 9/11 Mr. P.
http://killtown.blogspot.com/ 2005/ 11/ dancing-israelis-on-911.html
September 8th, 2007 at 9:50 pmAngry? Give me a f— break. Have you seen the tape?
September 8th, 2007 at 9:50 pm… bin laden = bloggers is a talking point pure and simple… you have to admire their ability to march in lock step…
Comment by elvisgoat — September 8, 2007 @ 9:46 pm
It does seem like Bin Laden is suddenly desperate to confirm the administrations stories. “Convert or die?” Siding with the democrats and chastising them for not working harder to end the war?
Why would bin laden want it to look like he was buddy buddy with the democrats?
Its all very suspicious.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:50 pmI am a liberal, progressive blogger, …
Comment by Stacy — September 8, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
naaah… if you were, you wouldn’t have to say it…
…
and you sure as hell wouldn’t agree with the premise…
September 8th, 2007 at 9:51 pm…
Liberal bloggers should be spending their time pointing out that because of the failed right wing agenda, Bin Ladin is still alive to make these remarks.
Comment by Stacy
Right after 9/11 Bush made all kinds of statements about bin Laden
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“The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.”
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
“I want justice…There’s an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, ‘Wanted: Dead or Alive,’”
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
“…Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he’s maybe in control of a cave. He’s on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we’re going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that’s what’s happening. He’s on the run, if he’s running at all. So we don’t know whether he’s in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open — we just don’t know….”
- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
official White House site
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Less than 6 months later…….
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“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
“I am truly not that concerned about him.”
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden’s whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
* * *
Can anyone say “Bush is a Lying Muthaf*cker!!” ?????????
September 8th, 2007 at 9:51 pmWho do I represent? Rationality lol; don’t know what you mean there. The point I was trying to make was that you are misinterpreting what “hard evidence” means. It is kind of like when creationists try to say “evolution is only a THEORY” to discredit it, when the truth is that in a scientific context “theory” is a lot different than somebody’s theory that 7UP is just lemonade and orange juice. Hell, gravity is still called a theory! Similarly, hard evidence is the sort of evidence that could be 100% sure to lead to a conviction in contrast to just having “evidence” with no stipulation, which is still evidence.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:53 pmace - that didn’t sound like our “shane” to me…
…
the name jacking is rampant lately…
chickenshits…
September 8th, 2007 at 9:53 pm.
katy, I don’t think I’ve ever posted before; there are a lot of people called Shane…
September 8th, 2007 at 9:54 pmShane is a different poster from Shayne
September 8th, 2007 at 9:56 pmShane:
I’m not the one advancing a THEORY and implying that it is a FACT.
That distinction rests with the US Government and its blatant lie about the events of 9/11.
The FBI DOES NOT CONFIRM the governments adamant claim that Bin Laden played a part in 9/11.
What could be more newsworthy and relevant than that?
September 8th, 2007 at 9:57 pmCHENEY ORDERED THAT THE “PLANE†BE ALLOWED TO ATTACK THE PENTAGON.
WATCH MINETA’S TESTIMONY:
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=3912125846565372350&q=Norman+Mineta
It all began on the evening of June 22, 2006, when “Hannity & Colmes” (on the FOX/RNC Channel) had a guest on by the name of Dr. James H. Fetzer (see endnote). Fetzer is a member of 9/11 Scholars for Truth. Due to some unexpected initial confusion on the part of the hosts regarding their chosen “attack theme” (they got their “facts FOXED,” as Fetzer said), Fetzer was given a rare opportunity to answer an open-ended question — almost without interruption. As the lawyers all say, “Never ask a witness any question to which you do not already know the answer.”
Colmes asked Fetzer something to the effect, “So can you give us one piece of evidence that would tend to point toward 9/11 being an inside job by the Bush Administration?”
While Ollie North (who was guest hosting for Hannity) was apparently still lost in confusion, Fetzer had a rare opportunity to speak a few full sentences without hostile, obnoxious interruptions. He said (and I’m paraphrasing here again), “I point you to Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta’s testimony before the 9/11 Commission. Mineta said he had encountered Vice President Cheney in a bunker in Washington, DC, at 9:20 AM, on the day of the attacks [forty-three minutes earlier than Cheney said he had arrived]. Every few seconds a young man would come into the room and say, ‘Sir, it’s 50 miles out. Sir, it’s 40 miles out. Sir, it’s 30 miles out,’ and so on. Finally the young man asked the Vice President, ‘Sir, do the orders still stand?’ Cheney replied gruffly, ‘Of course, the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?’
Fetzer went on to explain that only later did Mineta learn that the young man was referring to Flight 77 approaching Washington, DC, and the orders the young man was referring to were obviously orders NOT to shoot the plane down [please see my first July 6, comment in the comments section for an update on this paragraph]. That’s why the young man had finally asked if the orders still stood, to which Cheney replied that they did. Shortly thereafter, Flight 77 (or a “reasonable” facsimile thereof) struck the Pentagon.
Obviously, the producers of the “Hannity & Colmes Propaganda Hour” had not anticipated such a damning bit of irrefutable evidence to escape over “their” airwaves to their glassy-eyed, drool-chinned audience.
Here’s the Real Kicker…
The very next morning, less than twelve hours after his 9/11 testimony had been unexpectedly “exposed” to the FOX faithful, Norman Mineta resigned as Secretary of Transportation.
What an unbelievably amazing coincidence of timing!
http://palitonepress.blogspot.com/ 2006/ 06/ amazing-coincidence.html
THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:59 pmthat explains that…
so, another good reason for registration, TP…
each poster’s name should be exclusive…
maybe you could add an initial, to help us out…
our “shane” has been around a long time…
September 8th, 2007 at 10:00 pmhttp://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/ index.php?s=26b433b51b3e736a08fb2c32f17f4bd8&showtopic=88411&pid=862331&st=0&#entry862331
The Coincidence Theorist’s Guide to 9/11
That governments have permitted terrorist acts against their own people, and have even themselves been perpetrators in order to find strategic advantage is quite likely true, but this is the United States we’re talking about.
That intelligence agencies, financiers, terrorists and narco-criminals have a long history together is well established, but the Nugan Hand Bank, BCCI, Banco Ambrosiano, the P2 Lodge, the CIA/Mafia anti-Castro/Kennedy alliance, Iran/Contra and the rest were a long time ago, so there’s no need to rehash all that. That was then, this is now!
That Jonathan Bush’s Riggs Bank has been found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a US-record $25 million must embarrass his nephew George, but it’s still no justification for leaping to paranoid conclusions.
That George Bush’s brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines means nothing more than you must admit those Bush boys have done alright for themselves.
That George Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama’s brother Salem and reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz is just one of those things - one of those crazy things.
That Osama bin Laden is known to have been an asset of US foreign policy in no way implies he still is.
That al Qaeda was active in the Balkan conflict, fighting on the same side as the US as recently as 1999, while the US protected its cells, is merely one of history’s little aberrations.
The claims of Michael Springman, State Department veteran of the Jeddah visa bureau, that the CIA ran the office and issued visas to al Qaeda members so they could receive training in the United States, sound like the sour grapes of someone who was fired for making such wild accusations.
That one of George Bush’s first acts as President, in January 2001, was to end the two-year deployment of attack submarines which were positioned within striking distance of al Qaeda’s Afghanistan camps, even as the group’s guilt for the Cole bombing was established, proves that a transition from one administration to the next is never an easy task.
That so many influential figures in and close to the Bush White House had expressed, just a year before the attacks, the need for a “new Pearl Harbor” before their militarist ambitions could be fulfilled, demonstrates nothing more than the accidental virtue of being in the right place at the right time.
That the company PTECH, founded by a Saudi financier placed on America’s Terrorist Watch List in October 2001, had access to the FAA’s entire computer system for two years before the 9/11 attack, means he must not have been such a threat after all.
That whistleblower Indira Singh was told to keep her mouth shut and forget what she learned when she took her concerns about PTECH to her employers and federal authorities, suggests she lacked the big picture. And that the Chief Auditor for JP Morgan Chase told Singh repeatedly, as she answered questions about who supplied her with what information, that “that person should be killed,” suggests he should take an anger management seminar.
That on May 8, 2001, Dick Cheney took upon himself the job of co-ordinating a response to domestic terror attacks even as he was crafting the administration’s energy policy which bore implications for America’s military, circumventing the established infrastructure and ignoring the recommendations of the Hart-Rudman report, merely shows the VP to be someone who finds it hard to delegate.
That the standing order which covered the shooting down of hijacked aircraft was altered on June 1, 2001, taking discretion away from field commanders and placing it solely in the hands of the Secretary of Defense, is simply poor planning and unfortunate timing. Fortunately the error has been corrected, as the order was rescinded shortly after 9/11.
That in the weeks before 9/11, FBI agent Colleen Rowley found her investigation of Zacarias Moussaoui so perversely thwarted that her colleagues joked that bin Laden had a mole at the FBI, proves the stress-relieving virtue of humour in the workplace.
That Dave Frasca of the FBI’s Radical Fundamentalist Unit received a promotion after quashing multiple, urgent requests for investigations into al Qaeda assets training at flight schools in the summer of 2001 does appear on the surface odd, but undoubtedly there’s a good reason for it, quite possibly classified.
That FBI informant Randy Glass, working an undercover sting, was told by Pakistani intelligence operatives that the World Trade Center towers were coming down, and that his repeated warnings which continued until weeks before the attacks, including the mention of planes used as weapons, were ignored by federal authorities, is simply one of the many “What Ifs” of that tragic day.
That over the summer of 2001 Washington received many urgent, senior-level warnings from foreign intelligence agencies and governments - including those of Germany, France, Great Britain, Russia, Egypt, Israel, Morocco, Afghanistan and others - of impending terror attacks using hijacked aircraft and did nothing, demonstrates the pressing need for a new Intelligence Czar.
That John Ashcroft stopped flying commercial aircraft in July 2001 on account of security considerations had nothing to do with warnings regarding September 11, because he said so to the 9/11 Commission.
That former lead counsel for the House David Schippers says he’d taken to John Ashcroft’s office specific warnings he’d learned from FBI agents in New York of an impending attack – even naming the proposed dates, names of the hijackers and the targets – and that the investigations had been stymied and the agents threatened, proves nothing but David Schipper’s pathetic need for attention.
That Garth Nicolson received two warnings from contacts in the intelligence community and one from a North African head of state, which included specific site, date and source of the attacks, and passed the information to the Defense Department and the National Security Council to evidently no effect, clearly amounts to nothing, since virtually nobody has ever heard of him.
That in the months prior to September 11, self-described US intelligence operative Delmart Vreeland sought, from a Toronto jail cell, to get US and Canadian authorities to heed his warning of his accidental discovery of impending catastrophic attacks is worthless, since Vreeland was a dubious character, notwithstanding the fact that many of his claims have since been proven true.
That FBI Special Investigator Robert Wright claims that agents assigned to intelligence operations actually protect terrorists from investigation and prosecution, that the FBI shut down his probe into terrorist training camps, and that he was removed from a money-laundering case that had a direct link to terrorism, sounds like yet more sour grapes from a disgruntled employee.
That George Bush had plans to invade Afghanistan on his desk before 9/11 demonstrates only the value of being prepared.
The suggestion that securing a pipeline across Afghanistan figured into the White House’s calculations is as ludicrous as the assertion that oil played a part in determining war in Iraq.
That Afghanistan is once again the world’s principal heroin producer is an unfortunate reality, but to claim the CIA is still actively involved in the narcotics trade is to presume bad faith on the part of the agency.
Mahmood Ahmed, chief of Pakistan’s ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn’t read anything about him in the official report.
That Porter Goss met with Ahmed the morning of September 11 in his capacity as Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has no bearing whatsoever upon his recent selection by the White House to head the Central Intelligence Agency.
That Goss’s congressional seat encompasses the 9/11 hijackers’ Florida base of operation, including their flight schools, is precisely the kind of meaningless factoid a conspiracy theorist would bring up.
It’s true that George HW Bush and Dick Cheney spent the evening of September 10 alone in the Oval Office, but what’s wrong with old colleagues catching up? And it’s true that George HW Bush and Shafig bin Laden, Osama’s brother, spent the morning of September 11 together at a board meeting of the Carlyle Group, but the bin Ladens are a big family.
That FEMA arrived in New York on Sept 10 to prepare for a scheduled biowarfare drill, and had a triage centre ready to go that was larger and better equipped than the one that was lost in the collapse of WTC 7, was a lucky twist of fate.
Newsweek’s report that senior Pentagon officials cancelled flights on Sept 10 for the following day on account of security concerns is only newsworthy because of what happened the following morning.
That George Bush’s telephone logs for September 11 do not exist should surprise no one, given the confusion of the day.
That Mohamed Atta attended the International Officer’s School at Maxwell Air Force Base, that Abdulaziz Alomari attended Brooks Air Force Base Aerospace Medical School, that Saeed Alghamdi attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey merely shows it is a small world, after all.
That Lt Col Steve Butler, Vice Chancellor for student affairs of the Defense Language Institute during Alghamdi’s terms, was disciplined, removed from his post and threatened with court martial when he wrote “Bush knew of the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism. What is…contemptible is the President of the United States not telling the American people what he knows for political gain,” is the least that should have happened for such disrespect shown his Commander in Chief.
That Mohammed Atta dressed like a Mafioso, had a stripper girlfriend, smuggled drugs, was already a licensed pilot when he entered the US, enjoyed pork chops, drank to excess and did cocaine, was closer to Europeans than Arabs in Florida, and included the names of defence contractors on his email list, proves how dangerous the radical fundamentalist Muslim can be.
That 43 lbs of heroin was found on board the Lear Jet owned by Wally Hilliard, the owner of Atta’s flight school, just three weeks after Atta enrolled – the biggest seizure ever in Central Florida – was just bad luck. That Hilliard was not charged shows how specious the claims for conspiracy truly are.
That Hilliard’s plane had made 30-round trips to Venezuela with the same passengers who always paid cash, that the plane had been supplied by a pair of drug smugglers who had also outfitted CIA drug runner Barry Seal, and that 9/11 commissioner Richard ben-Veniste had been Seal’s attorney before Seal’s murder, shows nothing but the lengths to which conspiracists will go to draw sinister conclusions.
Reports of insider trading on 9/11 are false, because the SEC investigated and found only respectable investors who will remain nameless involved, and no terrorists, so the windfall profit-taking was merely, as ever, coincidental.
That heightened security for the World Trade Centre was lifted immediately prior to the attacks illustrates that it always happens when you least expect it.
That Hani Hanjour, the pilot of Flight 77, was so incompetent he could not fly a Cessna in August, but in September managed to fly a 767 at excessive speed into a spiraling, 270-degree descent and a level impact of the first floor of the Pentagon, on the only side that was virtually empty and had been hardened to withstand a terrorist attack, merely demonstrates that people can do almost anything once they set their minds to it.
That none of the flight data recorders were said to be recoverable even though they were located in the tail sections, and that until 9/11, no solid-state recorder in a catastrophic crash had been unrecoverable, shows how there’s a first time for everything.
That Mohammed Atta left a uniform, a will, a Koran, his driver’s license and a “how to fly planes” video in his rental car at the airport means he had other things on his mind.
The mention of Israelis with links to military-intelligence having been arrested on Sept 11 videotaping and celebrating the attacks, of an Israeli espionage ring surveiling DEA and defense installations and trailing the hijackers, and of a warning of impending attacks delivered to the Israeli company Odigo two hours before the first plane hit, does not deserve a response. That the stories also appeared in publications such as Ha’aretz and Forward is a sad display of self-hatred among certain elements of the Israeli media.
That multiple military wargames and simulations were underway the morning of 9/11 – one simulating the crash of a plane into a building; another, a live-fly simulation of multiple hijackings – and took many interceptors away from the eastern seaboard and confused field commanders as to which was a real hijacked aircraft and which was a hoax, was a bizarre coincidence, but no less a coincidence.
That the National Military Command Center ops director asked a rookie substitute to stand his watch at 8:30 am on Sept. 11 is nothing more than bad timing.
That a recording made Sept 11 of air traffic controllers’ describing what they had witnessed, was destroyed by an FAA official who crushed it in his hand, cut the tape into little pieces and dropped them in different trash cans around the building, is something no doubt that overzealous official wishes he could undo.
That the FBI knew precisely which Florida flight schools to descend upon hours after the attacks should make every American feel safer knowing their federal agents are on the ball.
That a former flight school executive believes the hijackers were “double agents,” and says about Atta and associates, “Early on I gleaned that these guys had government protection. They were let into this country for a specific purpose,” and was visited by the FBI just four hours after the attacks to intimidate him into silence, proves he’s an unreliable witness, for the simple reason there is no conspiracy.
That Jeb Bush was on board an aircraft that removed flight school records to Washington in the middle of the night on Sept 12th demonstrates how seriously the governor takes the issue of national security.
To insinuate evil motive from the mercy flights of bin Laden family members and Saudi royals after 9/11 shows the sickness of the conspiratorial mindset.
Le Figaro’s report in October 2001, known to have originated with French intelligence, that the CIA met Osama bin Laden in a Dubai hospital in July 2001, proves again the perfidy of the French.
That the tape in which bin Laden claims responsibility for the attacks was released by the State Department after having been found providentially by US forces in Afghanistan, and depicts a fattened Osama with a broader face and a flatter nose, proves Osama, and Osama alone, masterminded 9/11.
That at the battle of Tora Bora, where bin Laden was surrounded on three sides, Special Forces received no order to advance and capture him and were forced to stand and watch as two Russian-made helicopters flew into the area where bin Laden was believed hiding, loaded up passengers and returned to Pakistan, demonstrates how confusing the modern battlefield can be.
That upon returning to Fort Bragg from Tora Bora, the same Special Operations troops who had been stood down from capturing bin Laden, suffered a unusual spree of murder/suicides, is nothing more than a series of senseless tragedies.
Reports that bin Laden is currently receiving periodic dialysis treatment in a Pakistani medical hospital are simply too incredible to be true.
That the White House went on Cipro September 11 shows the foresightedness of America’s emergency response.
That the anthrax was mailed to perceived liberal media and the Democratic leadership demonstrates only the perversity of the terrorist psyche.
That the anthrax attacks appeared to silence opponents of the Patriot Act shows only that appearances can be deceiving.
That the Ames-strain anthrax was found to have originated at Fort Detrick, and was beyond the capability of all but a few labs to refine, underscores the importance of allowing the investigation to continue without the distraction of absurd conspiracy theories.
That Republican guru Grover Norquist has been found to have aided financiers and supporters of Islamic terror to gain access to the Bush White House, and is a founder of the Islamic Institute, which the Treasury Department believes to be a source of funding for al Qaeda, suggests Norquist is at worst, naive, and at best, needs a wider circle of friends.
That the Department of Justice consistently chooses to see accused 9/11 plotters go free rather than permit the courtroom testimony of al Qaeda leaders in American custody looks bad, but only because we don’t have all the facts.
That the White House balked at any inquiry into the events of 9/11, then starved it of funds and stonewalled it, was unfortunate, but since the commission didn’t find for conspiracy it’s all a non issue anyway.
That the 9/11 commission’s executive director and “gatekeeper,” Philip Zelikow, was so closely involved in the events under investigation that he testified before the the commission as part of the inquiry, shows only an apparent conflict of interest.
That commission chair Thomas Kean is, like George Bush, a Texas oil executive who had business dealings with reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mafouz, suggests Texas is smaller than they say it is.
That co-chair Lee Hamilton has a history as a Bush family “fixer,” including clearing Bush Sr of the claims arising from the 1980 “October Surprise”, is of no concern, since only conspiracists believe there was such a thing as an October Surprise.
That FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds accuses the agency of intentionally fudging specific pre-9/11 warnings and harboring a foreign espionage ring in its translation department, and claims she witnessed evidence of the semi-official infrastructure of money-laundering and narcotics trade behind the attacks, is of no account, since John Ashcroft has gagged her with the rare invocation of “State Secrets Privilege,” and retroactively classified her public testimony. For the sake of national security, let us speak no more of her.
That, when commenting on Edmond’s case, Daniel Ellsberg remarked that Ashcroft could go to prison for his part in a cover-up, suggests Ellsberg is giving comfort to the terrorists, and could, if he doesn’t wise up, find himself declared an enemy combatant.
I could go on. And on and on. But I trust you get the point. Which is simply this: there are no secrets, an American government would never accept civilian casualties for geostrategic gain, and conspiracies are for the weak-minded and gullible.
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/ 2004/ 08/ coincidence-theorists-guide-to-911.html
September 8th, 2007 at 10:00 pmwayne - i only noticed the “y” added when she began posting at the zoo…
September 8th, 2007 at 10:01 pm…
Well, I guess we all know the new tactics of the RNC. Attack the bloggers! It’s really nice to know that we have gotten under their skin and that they are so afraid of us. Must mean that we are having a positive affect!
September 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pmBin Laden knows that the US will eventually leave Iraq, his biggest recruiting station for Al Qaeda, if the Republicans don’t recapture Congress in 2008, so his newest strategy is to sound like progressive bloggers and Democrats. If he can cause the right wing to be triumphant then he will be able to continue to tie down US forces in Iraq while he eventually wins elsewhere in Europe, Asia and Africa.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pmHey ace, you fuh-king putz. Why don’t you get your own blog and quit with the spamming.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:24 pmThat’s odd.
Arena only said “angry bloggers”.
But, TP thinks she was refering to “progressive” bloggers, when she could have been refering to angry tech bloggers, angry cat bloggers, angry sex bloggers, pretty much any type of blogger.
Odd how Amanda would make that leap. Very odd.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:25 pmAs for the Reich Wing noise operations, who gives a flying rats @ss what they think. They certainly aren’t winning any friends amongst those on in the US who can read, think for themselves and formulate their own opinions. Screw the Right, screw them all - from the brainless wanker anchors to the Brownshirts behind the Reich Wing “blogs”.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:29 pmMust mean that we are having a positive affect!
Comment by bilbogaggins — September 8, 2007 @ 10:24 pm
Don’cha think it kinda “odd” that the DoJ chipped in it’s 2 cents’ worth the other day about net neutrality and how it’s not a good thing?
http://www.dslreports.com/ shownews/ DOJ-Opposes-Network-Neutrality-87316
The DoJ?? WTF??? do they have to do w/ this?
September 8th, 2007 at 10:32 pmre: Angry Bloggers. I think the “Angry blogger” bit may have been in reference to angry Pastry Chef bloggers. I know several and they can be quite the lot.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:33 pmOBVIOUSLY OBL IS GETTING A LOT OF ENCOURAGEMENT FROM JIHAD SITES SUCH AS NEWSHOUNDS, MEDIAMATTERS, CROOKS&LIARS, DAILYKOS, MSNBC AND THIS ONE!!!!!
September 8th, 2007 at 10:33 pmace - you know your long winded posts are almost as annoying as Mr. Pee filling up two or three pages with exclamation points.
If you have something to say, why not paraphrase it in one succinct paragraph and then link to what you cut and paste here.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:34 pmPlease, these pundits know they are spewing absolute garbage.
The fact is folks, and we must put an end to it, is these crowing craniums failed basic math and world history.
First off, some 70% of Americans want this ill planned, ill thought out experiment in Democracy, thsi nation building by our troops, to end. The fact is folks these crisis creating centrists are spreading projectionist piddle.
70% of 300 million Americas is 210 million people, Folks, the fact is thats alot of Republican and Conservative bloggers thrown in with Democratic Americans, and we must put an end to such defamatory drabble.
We have a culture of corruption running amok in our governmental system, and that is a real problem, what a handful of bloggers, left and right, who are angry with this Middle Easter cluster-F++K, say must be truthful if they caught the attention of the MSM, the fact is folks, bloggers are Americans, and as Americans they are expressly given the right of freedom of speech!!
September 8th, 2007 at 10:34 pmI have been name jacked (both spellings are mine )by P obviously is doing it. He started yesterday. I didn’t write that to ace.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:37 pmWayne, Katy, your correct, both those spellings are mine but not the post to ace. I am having trouble getting these explanations to even stay here but P can get anything he wants.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:38 pmKaty, our Shayne’s name keeps being hijacked by someone (and I think that we can all guess by whom), and it’s seems to only have started after she added the Y. Then again, I’ve only been around here the last couple of days.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:39 pmFine, then Right-wing bloggers are Nazis.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:39 pmRALPH, is Mr. P and so is this Castronova Viagro. Ace, don’t listen to this idiot.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:39 pmRALPH, is Mr. P and so is this Castronova Viagro. Ace, don’t listen to this idiot.
Comment by Shayne — September 8, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
Nope!
September 8th, 2007 at 10:40 pmThanks Jayne, that creep is destroying the whole site. About 50 of his post got deleted today but he is right back.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:41 pmComment by RALPH — September 8, 2007
The fact is folks, these formerly nicotine stained finger, know, for a fact, that Osama was a Freedom Fighter. At one time hailed by the right wing iidotology during its cold war heyday. The fact is folks, people like Ralph here are products of revisionist pundit history, a person fed controverisal BS for so long they no longer have any idea what they speak of.
And the fact is folks, Ralph, here is a product of dumbing down Amrericans, sorry Ralph dont take that personally, Ralph thinks Islamics are Stalinist.
How, Ralph, does Stalinism have anything to do with religious extremist fundmentalists? The fact is, dear reders, Stalinists were none of these things Ralph and other misinformed miscreants bleat about. The fact is, Afghans fought off, and beat the communists. How do you correlate those two incompatible historical things Ralph?
September 8th, 2007 at 10:42 pmBush is a Saudi OIL WHORBAG who sux TERRORIST0FINANCIER dix…
The Bin Ladens FINANCED his failed oil businesses.
And he flew the Bin Ladens out on 9/13 despite “no-fly”.
And his granddaddy was a Nazi money-launderer…
70 years of Bush TREASON against the USA…
September 8th, 2007 at 10:42 pmwell, notice that “shane” is gone now… imagine that…
shayne - maybe if you stick to that spelling?
however, that name was also hijacked this morning, late…
but, however you spell it, i knew it wasn’t you…
i need to get out more… heh…
September 8th, 2007 at 10:43 pmComment by RALPH — September 8, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Ralph - a word that describes what I do whenever some brainless moron comes around proving they can’t think for themselves.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:43 pmRALPH, is Mr. P and so is this Castronova Viagro. Ace, don’t listen to this idiot. Comment by Shayne
No. I’m not. Nanner Neener Boo Boo!
X^B
CastroNova Viagro is a fictional Rush Limbaugh in reverse.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:45 pmMr. P hijacks my name under both spellings, katy, so I really don’t know what will stop him. Maybe registration?
September 8th, 2007 at 10:45 pmSimilarly, hard evidence is the sort of evidence that could be 100% sure to lead to a conviction in contrast to just having “evidence†with no stipulation, which is still evidence.
I see your point in a way, but then why say, “Dead or alive”, or “our highest priority is bin Laden”, or any such thing if there is no hard evidence. Kill a man that they don’t even know did it or orchestrated it beyond a reasonable doubt?
Hope they never “think” or “guess” the same about US citizens and send them to Gitmo or some other such facility…Oh. Never mind.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:47 pm“i need to get out more… heh…”
Comment by katy — September 8, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
I know what you mean, katy.. ;-)
Shayne, I had several comments deleted throughout the day, and only a couple of the “disappeared” ones came back.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:48 pmBut, TP thinks she was refering to “progressive†bloggers, when she could have been refering to angry tech bloggers, angry cat bloggers, angry sex bloggers, pretty much any type of blogger.
Odd how Amanda would make that leap. Very odd.
Comment by Immigration2008DotCom
I think it odd how you missed the phrase said by Arena, At times he comes off like an angry blogger chastising Americans for electing President Bush twice and the Democrats for not doing more to stop the Iraq war..
I wonder if a angry cat blogger would make that statement? Would a rightie chastise Americans for electing Bush twice? Your comment based on a half statement is a half truth. Nice try but you lie.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:49 pmMr. P hijacks my name under both spellings, katy, so I really don’t know what will stop him. Maybe registration?
Comment by Shayne — September 8, 2007
Since Mr P is at a university, George Mason University, he claims, They could possibly block that whole block of IP numbers.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:54 pmGeorge Mason University
City: Fairfax
StateProv: VA
NetRange: 129.174.0.0 - 129.174.255.255
Bush and the Republicans own Osama. They can talk about him all they want. But I for one have not seen the Osama tape nor do I want to.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pmComment by NRA Gunnutes — September 8, 2007 @ 10:42 pm
While that is so, its not helpful when trying to move the progressive cause. The centrists keep pushing the idea that Democrats are not conservative, the fact is Hillary has been a member of a progressive christian group for some 15 years. The Sojourners.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pmHe comes off like Howard Dean.
September 8th, 2007 at 10:58 pmHe comes off like Howard Dean.
Comment by Frank J
Who’s he? Howard Dean. Yeah I agree.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:00 pmSince Mr P is at a university, George Mason University, he claims, They could possibly block that whole block of IP numbers.
…
Comment by Castronova Viagro — September 8, 2007 @ 10:54 pm
send that info to TP… upper right… “e-mail us”…
September 8th, 2007 at 11:02 pmuse both ways…
…
The FASCISTS are coming!
The FASCISTS are coming!
September 8th, 2007 at 11:04 pmcastronova - sounds like you were listening to RING OF FIRE today…
September 8th, 2007 at 11:04 pmthey had a guest talking about hillary’s prayer group, and more…
…
Reporter Jeff Sharlett on Hillary Clinton’s link to a secretive fundamentalist group called The Fellowship
http://www.motherjones.com/ news/ feature/ 2007/ 09/ hillarys-prayer.html
how long will this stay?
September 8th, 2007 at 11:06 pmNo matter what Frank J, Kelli Arena, Pus Limphog or Scum Vannity say…
…the first and second SELECTIONS of the oil gods Bushiva and L’il Dick…
…have cursed the homes and families of EVERYONE who voted for them…
…and ESPECIALLY those mindless propagandists and political who*es who support and defend…
…the immoral mass murder of millions, and the economic raping of the dissenting majority of Americans…
…Frank J be forewarned…
…tragedy, disease and destruction must be visited upon your heads and your homes…
…your rotten karma demands it…
September 8th, 2007 at 11:10 pmIt’s official. They have finally removed all remnants of Laura Bush’s brain.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:13 pmPretty obvious to me who Arena was refering to and it wasn’t Pajama Media.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:14 pmThis is the new Reich Wing talking point. They will conflate OBL’s babble with Blogs like TP, Daily Kos, and Media Matters as the main targets. Whether he meant to or not (I believe the former) he has give the GOP new ammo to work with.
It is going to be important that those of us who count ourselves as Progressives and Liberals be ready to counter this next campaign of lies, half truths and outright hate that the Wing Nut Media and their enabeler’s in the MSM and the Administration will use .
castronova - sounds like you were listening to RING OF FIRE today…
they had a guest talking about hillary’s prayer group, and more…
Comment by katy — September 8, 200
Never heard of this Ring of Fire show, is it relate to Johhny Cash’s song Ring of Fire?
~~~~~~~
Yesterday, CNN Justice Correspondent Kelli Arena compared bin Laden’s tape to the writings of an “angry bloggerâ€:
I wonder if Kelli Arena, [[whom I have never heard of]], realizes that Rush calls CNN the Clinton News Network?
Heres a question for you Kelli Arena, if liberals are Godless, as some adult-adolescent pundit book writer claims, why in the heck would a bunch of atheists have anything to do with wacky fundamentalist religious extremists like Bin Laden? And why does Arena think that Bin Laden, hiding in a cave, has access to the internet or reads what few progressive blogs there are?
Did it it occur to you Bin Laden, if thats him, is doinf this just to get under the right wing pundits skin?
I say Bin Laden Videos should get no airtime at all, and those networks such as CNN here, and the pundits listed, are the ones giving Osama what he wants.
Use your head Kelli Arena, nor your fear factor controverst creating tripe.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:14 pmWho gives Osama airtime?
The FOX news folks!
Who Gives Osama air time?
CNN!!!
Who gives Osama talk time?
The Right Wing Am radio!!
Who loves Osama?
September 8th, 2007 at 11:17 pmThe Pundits!
Everyone please watch C-Span’s American Perspectives telecast from the August 17 gathering at the Immanuel Presbyterian Church in Los Angeles (sponsored by CA radio station KPFK) of political activists who gathered to hear the story of a WTC maintenance man- William Rodriguez- who was at the WTC on 9/11.
His story is EYE OPENING and STUNNING!
…I’m videotaping it for posterity, as many of these eyewitness accounts are being mysteriously LOST…
September 8th, 2007 at 11:19 pm*
September 8th, 2007 at 11:19 pmhttp://ringoffireradio.com/
.
I don’t think there mysteriously lost bog papa. I think the problem is that the American People have a breathakingly short memory.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:22 pmThey don’t give a damm anymore.
Wow, this shit couldn’t be any more transparent and simple minded in it’s design.
Step one: create a boogyman that america will hate and fear
Step two: at opportune moments have boogyman dispatch a tape of himself saying stuff like “don’t vote for Bush” and “global warming is real”…
Step three: get your tools in the press to whip it into a frenzy
Step four: sit back and laugh as stupid, frightened, americans reject the “lefty” messages your boy Bin Laden delivered right on cue
What a scam!
September 8th, 2007 at 11:23 pmMany people I know didn’t realize that OBL hada new tape out. A lot of them couldn’t care less.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:23 pmthe American People have a breathakingly short memory.
They don’t give a damm anymore.
Comment by Jim Wolf359 #76
…until the bill comes due…
…SOON…
September 8th, 2007 at 11:23 pmMost of the prayer groups are informally affiliated with a secretive Christian organization called the Fellowship, established in the 1930s by a Methodist evangelist named Abraham Vereide, whose great hope was to preach the word of Jesus to political and business leaders throughout the world.
Yeh, kinda messes up Coulter whole premise doesn’t it?
Thanks for the link Katy.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:28 pmCould be any more clear now?
THIS IS PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE.
They are exposing themselves to you. Letting you know they are programming you. Now this is actual part of masonic ritualism. They are telling alot.
It would be best to resist them now and forever.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:30 pmkaty,
…in response to your earlier post …
“angry blogger†…
the righty’s newest, most misunderstood boogey man…
which is odd, because the angriest ones ARE the righties…
…
Comment by katy #5
…TRUTH be told…
…it’s actually MADDENINGLY IRONIC…
…how much the right wing con’nedselfservative (and neo-conned’selfservatives)…
…be they faux-Christian, Jewish, OR Islamic…
…have in common…
…they ALL HATE those who dare to be “different” from themselves…
…are SICK, twisted misogynists and hypocrites…
….and are closet pedophiles/or otherwise are sexually deviant…
September 8th, 2007 at 11:32 pmHey Frank J (or ANY other resident Bushite worshipper)…
…can you tell us how much money Ruby Guiliani’s firm has made off of 9/11?
…$107,000,000
…or how much of the almost $2 BILLION dollars paid out to the 9/11 victims went to “administrative costs?
…80%…
…who’s fooling who?
September 8th, 2007 at 11:36 pmUPDATE III:
Fox “News” and Leprechaun Sean Hannity have gotten into the act:
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FOX News attempts to connect Osama bin Laden with American left and Democrats
http://rawstory.com/ / news/ 2007/ FOX_News_attempts_to_connect_Osama_0908.html
Hannity Says Bin Laden Sounds Like Democrats - Twice
http://www.newshounds.us/ 2007/ 09/ 08/ hannity_says_bin_laden_sounds_like_democrats_twice.php
September 8th, 2007 at 11:36 pmKaty,
You totally missed my point. I stating that I am a liberal because my opinion on this matter is different than most liberals.
September 8th, 2007 at 11:40 pmI was pointing out that even a liberal can see that TP mis-represented what Arena and Brooks said. I did so because it usually is the right that mis-represents what people say, and I call them out on it too.
TRUTH…
…has NO political…
…nor religious…
…agenda or affiliation…
…COPULATE the right wing TRAITORS…
…and be prepared…
September 8th, 2007 at 11:40 pmA whole lot of people read blogs!
September 8th, 2007 at 11:47 pmIt would seem that Hannity spends a good deal of time here too!
http://www.interfaithalliance.org/ site/ lookup.asp?c=jkLSJ6MRKvH&b=2882853
September 8th, 2007 at 11:48 pmhttp://www.interfaithalliance.org/ site/ lookup.asp?c=jkLSJ6MRKvH&b=2882853
September 8th, 2007 at 11:50 pm~!!!!~!!!!~CHECK IT OUT~!!!!~
If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.
September 9th, 2007 at 12:08 amAll true. You lefties need to look at your hatred and anger. It’s embarrasing.
September 9th, 2007 at 12:10 amComment by OxyCon #84
…PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!
…NEVER refer to Fox…
…as a”news” entity…
…it’s a propaganda outlet for the criminal Bushite junta…
September 9th, 2007 at 12:12 amMy niece’s college political science class will not allow the students to use any information from Fox - because “Fox is not considered news”.
September 9th, 2007 at 12:14 amA recent blog post I read noted that the main people fighting 911 truth are the chicken hawks and it really seems to be true.
September 9th, 2007 at 12:16 amWhat you need to do is read the Osama transcript and apply to things the cons have said.
Osama wants to attack America and so does GOP Dennis Milligan!!
Osama is doing just what Stu Byofksy wants him too!
September 9th, 2007 at 12:21 ami hear ya, big papa… and agree…
reading that again, i realize i should have written
the angriest SOUNDING ones ARE the righties…
because, as madashell (how are you?) has pointed out
if you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention…
and i’m plenty angry…
but the righty’s anger is misdirected… and unhelpful…
well, i know what i’m TRYing to say here…
but it’s late and i should give it up…
say g’nite all…
g’nite all…
September 9th, 2007 at 12:30 am…
and stacy, i know the point you were TRYing to make…
it just doesn’t hold water…
know what i mean?
i don’t mean to offend, but you’re words don’t ring true…
that’s all…
September 9th, 2007 at 12:35 am…
I guess Frank J…
..and his Resident Evil co-connedspirators…
…have turned in for the nite…
…they gotta be ready for church and all tmw…
September 9th, 2007 at 12:40 amAnyone with half a brain can tell that your boy Bin L is a very good little liberal and is actually spouting off all of your talking points! Is it true that Harry Reid is related to OBL???
September 9th, 2007 at 12:41 am…John…
…shouldn’t you be in bed?
…you won’t be receptive to the latest Bushite talking points…
…if you’re snoozing in your pew…
September 9th, 2007 at 12:44 amComment by big papa — September 8, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
Wayne and I watched it earlier tonight, and we couldn’t tear ourselves away from it because we didn’t want to miss a word that William Rodriguez had to say. It was…incredible, horrifying, amazing (and it gave me flashbacks.)
Everyone should watch it. I just hope that Mr. Rodriguez doesn’t “disappear.” I’m glad that you’re taping it.
September 9th, 2007 at 12:47 amI’ve got to agree with you katy about stacy. Trying to “sell” it a little too hard.
September 9th, 2007 at 12:50 amHey big papa,
I forgot to mention I was in Vietnam….well, for two months or so but I got a few little scratches and had to leave!
When will all you left nuts invite your pal Osama over for a barbeque? I think that would be a great idea and think of all the good ideas you can give him for his next lib talking point speech.
September 9th, 2007 at 1:03 amCNN is just calling it as they see it. Fascism is fascism, whether it is Islamo-fascism or commie-fascism. You are attacking people and institutions, trying to force your policies on the rest of us, and not using ratified processes for changing policies. Your tactics are just going to make it more difficult for future generations to affect change, as your opponents are learning countermeasures to neutralize them.
You won the last congressional elections, yet your party, when held accountable for real crises, knuckle under to what the adults were already doing. I wish I could be in the election booth with you, as you pull the lever and vote for candidates and a party that openly contradicts your desires. You must get a sick feeling while you do it, allowing blind rationalizations drive your actions against what your gut is telling you to do. You should be starting your own political party, not shoring up one that talks a good game, but simply does what Reps would have done anyway.
September 9th, 2007 at 1:11 am” I wish I could be in the election booth with you, as you pull the lever and vote for candidates and a party that openly contradicts your desires.You must get a sick feeling while you do it, allowing blind rationalizations drive your actions against what your gut is telling you to do.”
Comment by Jason M. Hendler #101
…it’s nice to have “rationalization” and “guts ” Jason…
…it’snice to be a human being…
…something you DEMONS undoubtedly will never have the pleasure of knowing…
…I too would LOVE to KNOW that you (personally) were ANYWHERE within physical proximity to me…
September 9th, 2007 at 1:18 amI forgot to mention I was in Vietnam….well, for two months or so but I got a few little scratches and had to leave!
Comment by John Kerry #100
Hey john,
Thanks for your service…
…at least you WENT…
…that cowardly frat bi*ch Bush…
…spent the war in bars, snorting cocaine, and raping drunken male cheerleaders…
…and stateside ANG pilots…
…as for barbecues…
…the right wing mass murdering facistocracy will be attending the BIGGEST of em all…
…no doubt Cap’n…
September 9th, 2007 at 1:23 am#102, lil peepee,
You are a little sensative this evening, my last post must have touched on the truth and struck a real nerve.
Stop fighting what you know inside, that the Clintonistas are playing you for your votes, so that they can look like the grownups behind the wheel, instead of the Reps, of whom they are soooooo jealous.
September 9th, 2007 at 1:26 amYou are a little sensative this evening, my last post must have touched on the truth and struck a real nerve.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler #104
…you could never touch me Jason…
…you’re waaayyy too intelligent…
…and “sensative”…heh
September 9th, 2007 at 1:41 amOSAMA IS NOT THE 9-11 MASTERMIND.
he is a piece of shit.
he is on the fbi’s 10 most wanted, but ya know what NOT for? 911.
the fbi said there is NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OBL WAS IN ON 911.
bushco disbanded the hunt for obl.
bush has said obl is irrelevant…
OBL NEVER admitted his guilt for 9-11…. he praised it but never said he did it.
you all bought the obl thing just like you bought the iraqi WMD thing.
OBL 9-11 mastermind? you suckers have been PLAYED.
September 9th, 2007 at 1:45 amAngry blogger? Wishing death to thousands of innocents, just because they are of a different religion? Crazy Theocrat?
Hey I resemble those remarks!
September 9th, 2007 at 2:31 amBin Laden? You know, I really don’t think that much about him.
September 9th, 2007 at 2:33 amFamilies is where our nation takes hope, where wings take dream.
September 9th, 2007 at 2:34 amAn angry blogger? Wishing death to thousands of innocents, just because they are of a different religion? Crazy Theocrat? Two thousand years behind the time?
Hey I resemble those remarks!
September 9th, 2007 at 2:37 amStop fighting what you know inside, that the Clintonistas are playing you for your votes, so that they can look like the grownups behind the wheel, instead of the Reps, of whom they are soooooo jealous.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — September 9, 2007 @ 1:26 am
Ah, the poor retarded Aspergers boy is too stupid to know HE’S the one that gets played for his votes! You know, dumbass, part of acting like a GROWNUP involves learning the social cues and skills that your brain damage will ensure you will NEVER MASTER!!! Yet, your LECTURING is AMUSING if not DISTURBING - SOCIAL RETARD BOY!
September 9th, 2007 at 2:38 amhttp://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2002/ 03/ 20020313-8.html
Bush:..And the idea of focusing on one person is — really indicates to me people don’t understand the scope of the mission.
So why should I focus on this one man? Why is the media projectionists giving him so much airtime?
Bush….So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.
So Bush isn’t worried about Osama, then I am not worried about what he, or the media pundits and their goofy projectiionist parrots think about what he said. They obviously folks don’t understand the scope of the mission, ands thats the facts according to our President,
September 9th, 2007 at 3:01 amStop fighting what you know inside, that politicians are playing you for your votes, -Jason Hendler
Thats what politicians and political advisors do Jason, like Rove played you. He did such a great job he took George from 90% to 30% with no help from me. And he helped play you into a quagmire. The fact is Jason, you have been played, and your still being played. Bush doesn’t care where Osama is, thats a fact.
And the fact is the conservative media, the crisis makers, are making a mountain out of little molehill man, and folks, this is your conservative media at work.
September 9th, 2007 at 3:06 amto # 15
I was friends with three of the “100 “Israeli Art Students†(Mossad Agents)”, and I can tell you they had no connection to Mossad or 9/11. In fact, one of them cried on my shoulder on 9/12.
They were going door to door selling paintings, which they inferred were worth much more than they actually were. Not quite Illegal but kind of shady. They went to offices because that’s where most paintings were sold. In Berkeley CA many offices and university buildings were doing work related to Lawrence Livermore Labs and defense contractors. They went to such places to make a buck, not steal secrets.
The whole thing was run by an Israeli guy who had some asian connection for cheap, good-looking paintings. He hired other Israelis because he trusted them and could easily converse with them.
I can’t say for certain that none of these kids were Mossad, but I highly doubt any were. I think this is just one more BS conspiracy that takes up oxygen from more important questions about 9/11.
September 9th, 2007 at 3:38 amAnd the fact is the conservative media, the crisis makers, are making a mountain out of little molehill man, and folks, this is your conservative media at work.
Comment by Castronova Viagro — September 9, 2007 @ 3:06 am
The fact is, osama holds a very similar view of America as do the progs. ;)
September 9th, 2007 at 3:40 am