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Fred explains Anbar.

By Faiz on Sep 8th, 2007 at 1:45 pm

Fred explains Anbar.»

Fred Thompson “puzzled Iowans yesterday” by insisting an Al Qaeda smoking ban was one reason Sunni tribes have broken with al Qaeda:

“They said, ‘You gotta quit smoking,’” Thompson explained to a questioner asking about progress in Iraq during a town hall-style meeting. […]

Thompson’s tale of a smokers’ revolt baffled some in the audience of about 150 who came to decide whether the former Tennessee senator is ready for prime time.

“I don’t know what that was about,” said Jim Moran, 72, who had driven from nearby McCook Lake, S.D.

Earlier, ThinkProgress offered another rationale: The prospect of a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq in late 2006 may have been responsible for spurring Sunni efforts against al Qaeda.




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45 Responses to “Fred explains Anbar.”

  1. Polly Mathe Says:

    Isn’t Freddy the guy with the fondness for Cuban cigars….?


  2. troqua Says:

    Oh, this is awesome stuff. Keep ‘em coming, Freddie! You are a Democrat’s dream candidate.


  3. DutchHenry Says:

    “Thompson’s tale of a smokers’ revolt baffled some in the audience of about 150 who came to decide whether the former Tennessee senator is ready for prime time.”

    *******What do you expect from a Party(Repuke) that uses racism,sexism,corruption & thievery to win elections.


  4. Marie Says:

    Someone else will remember this better than I, but early on, didn’t one of the Republicans in the CPA in charge of health in Iraq deem that eliminating smoking was a high priority in improving the health of Iraqis?
    I dont know where I read or heard that.

    Fred Thompson is a joke as a candidate, but unfortunately, he will be certain to gain a fair percentage of support simply because he is a familiar face - unqualified, but familiar.


  5. Tobey Tall Says:

    then why were 4 US troops killed by an IED yesterday in ANBAR


  6. Tobey Tall Says:

    why were 20 US troops killed in Anbar in July


  7. toasterhead Says:

    why were 20 US troops killed in Anbar in July

    Comment by Tobey Tall — September 8, 2007 @ 1:56 pm

    How many insurgents do you expect us to bribe? We can’t bribe everybody, you know. That just wouldn’t be fair!


  8. Whyareprogressivessodense?? Says:

    Only if you’re dumb as a doornail and intellectually impaired could you not understand the stunningly simple thesis of one Fred Thompson. If Toilet Paper and all its hate-site adherents here brainlessly concur that Thompson’s phrase about quitting smoking was awkward, then they’re even more hopelessly unenlightened than 72-year-old Jim Moran. The difference is that event-attendee Moran has an excuse for his slow pickup: he’s probably senile and deteriorating in his old age. What Thompson meant, clearly enough, is that Al-Qaeda imposed bans on smoking (including bans on every other freedom and personal-choice issue like drinking, clothing, etc.) to the point where Sunnis realized that Al-Qaeda was an Islamofascist outfit, nothing else. Thompson’s smoking reference–misconceived by brain dead libtards–was a brilliant comparison of the anti-freedeom ideology of Al-Qaeda, an ideology which seeks to dictate people. The Sunnis finally realized this, and that’s why they’re joining the US in Anbar.


  9. Badger Says:

    Comment by Marie — September 8, 2007 @ 1:53 pm

    James K. Haveman, who had served as Michigan’s community-health director under a GOP governor, was put in charge of rehabilitating Iraq’s health-care system and decided that what this war-ravaged, malnourished, sanitation-deficient country most urgently needed was . . . an anti-smoking campaign.


  10. Fan_of_Man Says:

    dont embolden smokers! oh wait…..


  11. ronjazz, trollcrusher Says:

    why were 20 US troops killed in Anbar in July

    Comment by Tobey Tall — September 8, 2007 @ 1:56 pm

    they were smoking. ask Fred.


  12. katy Says:

    it’s fredd I E , by the way… IE, not Y…

    so, maybe freddie is appealing to the tennessee tobacco farmers…
    not sure why, except to piss ‘em off, as if that could help iraq…


  13. Shredder Says:

    Dear Lord, I beseech Thee, let Fred Thompson be the GOP nominee.


  14. ronjazz, notdenseprogressive Says:

    Comment by Whyareprogressivessodense?? — September 8, 2007 @ 2:16 pm

    so, the USA-imposed anti-smoking campaign was an Al Qaeda campaign? So the USA is Al Qaeda? Is that the latest rightard taking point? That’s pretty good, but seems to run somewhat counter to your previous claims. i mean, I’m not uncomfortable with the knowledge that Bushco has funded and armed al Qaeda all along, but I didn’t realize that you righties knew it too! so, are you voting for Kucinich or Richardson?


  15. katy Says:

    that’s correct marie and badger…
    so, freddie is trying to undermine the righty policy…
    hoo boy…


  16. Badger Says:

    The Sunnis finally realized this, and that’s why they’re joining the US in Anbar.

    Comment by Whyareprogressivessodense?? — September 8, 2007 @ 2:16 pm

    That , and the duffle bags full of ca$h. The Sunni’s of Iraq were among the MOST SECULAR of all arabs in the middle east. That’s why toppling Sadaam was so well received by the Mullahs in Iran.


  17. troqua Says:

    Comment by Whyareprogressivessodense?? — September 8, 2007

    Man, you guys can spin anything, can’t you? More likely Moran is just fine and Thompson is the senile one, my friend. Are you sure you didn’t hear the collective groan of his campaign staff when he made that stupid comment?


  18. Saint Augustine Says:

    Is Freddie’s message that if we let Sunnis smoke they will be our friends? Then, perhaps, the military should buy a couple hundred million dollars worth of American made smokes for our soldiers to give away.

    I’m sure that would make his former lobbying clients happy and replenish his coffers too.


  19. Badger Says:

    Aren’t cigarettes chemical weapons of mass destruction??


  20. OxyCon Says:

    For Granpa Freddie, it’s all about the Cuban cigars.


  21. troqua Says:

    4 people showed up - that’s right, 4 - at Utah GOP headquarters in SLC to kick off Fred’s campaign on Thursday. Lots of cookies went uneaten.


  22. JPV Says:

    I though for sure that Fred was gonna be a real contender for the Republican nomination.

    Now it’s slowly becoming painfully apparent that he’s a complete moron, which means my initial assesment was right… he’s a real contender for the Republican nomination.


  23. Saint Augustine Says:

    Haven’t I read that Bush’s Health Care person in Iraq is a 24 year old who started an anti-smoking campaign? Sounds like Bush’s people are just as coordinated on smoking as they are on gathering statistics.


  24. Roket Says:

    If that were the case, then Freddie should concede that Al Qaeda has won. For example, here in IL, try and smoke a cigarette in a bar after 1/1/08 and see what happens. I hear the punishment will be the severing of a finger for each violation. What?


  25. Frank J. (R-Saudi Arabia) Says:

    4 people showed up - that’s right, 4 - at Utah GOP headquarters in SLC to kick off Fred’s campaign on Thursday. Lots of cookies went uneaten.

    Comment by troqua — September 8, 2007 @ 2:53 pm

    weren’t those 4 returned to the home at the end of the day, by a short bus?


  26. Marie Says:

    #9 badger
    Thanks! I knew a smart person here would help me out!!


  27. Another Chris Says:

    Here’s the deal with the smoking ban. It was an attempt by Al Qaida to further their creation of an Islamic State ruled under Shari Law. Shari Law bans things like smoking dancing, music etc. The fact that this was rejected by the people of Al Anbar is a great thing.

    A little history, one of the reasosn why AQ was so comfortable in Afghanistan in the late 90’s and early 200’s is because the Taliban thought along the same lines when it came to establishing a strict fundamentalist Islamic society.


  28. Bobwurst Says:

    Ok, so grampa fred is a little slow, but i got to admit, he smells great. Stale cigar smoke and aqua velva. yep that’s what I want my president to smell like.


  29. HunterFredThompson Says:

    Vote for me, because I played a president on TV.


  30. Badger Says:

    Comment by Marie — September 8, 2007 @ 3:32 pm

    Thanks Marie, but I lifted that information from an article in Rolling Stone Magazine. I just remembered where I read it, amazingly. I would provide a link, but I’m not smart enough to figure how to do it. The article is online, and definitely worth reading. Just google “The great Iraq Swindle” .


  31. upside00 Says:

    Comment by Whyareprogressivessodense?? — September 8, 2007

    I am SOOOO glad we have all these Fred -I -E supporters here, he will be like shooting fish in a barrel if he gets the nomination. His lack of the ability to grasp reality is only behind that of ronnie raygunz.

    But he could make a good guest host for Jay Leno.

    Good Luck with this guy, Repugs!


  32. TC Says:

    When I read the initials of the state where the last person interviewed in the story was from, SD, and then saw the L in the “Lake” before the SD…it made me think that was perhaps what TV tough guy Thompson maybe had been using….


  33. katy Says:

    *
    Not All Would Put a Heroic Sheen on Thompson’s Watergate Role
    by Michael Kranish
    WASHINGTON — The day before Senate Watergate Committee minority counsel Fred Thompson made the inquiry that launched him into the national spotlight — asking an aide to President Nixon whether there was a White House taping system — he telephoned Nixon’s lawyer.

    Thompson tipped off the White House that the committee knew about the taping system and would be making the information public. In his all-but-forgotten Watergate memoir, “At That Point in Time,” Thompson said he acted with “no authority” in divulging the committee’s knowledge of the tapes, which provided the evidence that led to Nixon’s resignation. It was one of many Thompson leaks to the Nixon team, according to a former investigator for Democrats on the committee, Scott Armstrong , who remains upset at Thompson’s actions.

    “Thompson was a mole for the White House,” Armstrong said in an interview. “Fred was working hammer and tong to defeat the investigation of finding out what happened to authorize Watergate and find out what the role of the president was.”
    […]
    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/04/2286/
    via the Boston Globe

    the righty’s hero… no surprise…


  34. carolinablue Says:

    It’s typical Fred…lazy, lacklusterand intellectually dim. One wonders if all this crazy talk are early signs of senile dementia.


  35. upside00 Says:

    It’s typical Fred…lazy, lacklusterand intellectually dim. One wonders if all this crazy talk are early signs of senile dementia.
    Comment by carolinablue — September 8, 2007 @ 6:40 pm

    Too bad he won’t even get his own party’s nomination. The returns would be SOOO fun to watch. The only bet would be, how far into double digits would he lose by!

    And probably would have been asleep by the time the polls closed anyway.


  36. carolinablue Says:

    His is definitely the most ridiculous campaign. Even before it was launched it was a sinking ship, people were leaving as fast as possible and the person at the helm was his trophy wife. I mean the man shows up at the Iowa fair wearing Gucci shoes…how completely out of touch can he be? Then his persistent refusal to participate in debates, which further points to the fact that either he just intellectually lazy to face hard questions or he is afraid that in his senility he will blabber something. I do not like any of McCain’s positions but compared to Fred he comes out as sharp and quick witted, which just shows how pathetic this guy is.


  37. Buck Fush Says:

    Smoking? As in what in the world is Freddie smoking?


  38. dbadass Says:

    Physical geography instructors are correct…
    “Put red fred in the shed”


  39. big papa Says:

    Comment by Badger #9

    …you gotta love those right wing GOOBERS…

    …so much compassion for the least of these…


  40. carolinablue Says:

    the Fred trolls are silent :))


  41. Mary Contrary Says:

    you’re off just a little bit, Freddie.

    They don’t want to smoke… they want to smoke Americans


  42. ipod Says:

    ha!! - poor old tobacco lobbyists missing out here while halliburton makes squillions….what a shame :(


  43. Bruno Hauptmann Says:

    I think Fred brings the best buxom trophy wife to the contest. We want to see much more of that one.


  44. NeoCONS 'R' SCUM Says:

    Keep on ‘yapping, fred, you’re doing fine.


  45. Bill Hobbs Says:

    What Fred said about smoking and Al Qaeda happened to be true. Among the news media reporting it: Embedded blogger Michael Yon, and the Washington Post:

    http://www.elephantbiz.com/ 2007/ 09/ whats_fred_smoking_1.html



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