Comments on: Snow: We’re no longer ‘getting killed’ in Iraq. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:04:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Lynne Kringler http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-4/#comment-4067498 Lynne Kringler Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:11:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4067498 What war are we winning or losing? Why is it a defeat or a victory for us? When did killing, imprisoning, and torturing Iraqis become fighting for Iraq? How did we get so turned around that we don't know who our enemies are? Who are 'the ememy'? Those 3 and 1/2 million people that are displaced from their homes? The 1 + million dead Iraqi men women and children? The millions that have no electricity in 130 degree heat. Imagine having drinking water so polluted that even boiling it makes you sick. I was taught that for every one person that dies, it touches at least one hundred lives. Imagine the hate that we are generating. Imagine armed gunmen breaking down your door in the middle of the night, imprisoning the men and boys, torturing them and maybe killing them. I would hate with a hate that I can't even discribe. What would I do? God only knows, but I know it would be anything I could think of to help protect my family and country. When did the lives of 3,000 Americans become worth more than 4 million Iraqis, that had never done anything to us? How can we justify this? How can we allow these mass murderers to continue their assault on the people of the world? This regime has killed more Iraqis, in 5 years, than Saddam did in his 20+ years. What war are we winning or losing? Why is it a defeat or a victory for us? When did killing, imprisoning, and torturing Iraqis become fighting for Iraq? How did we get so turned around that we don’t know who our enemies are? Who are ‘the ememy’? Those 3 and 1/2 million people that are displaced from their homes? The 1 + million dead Iraqi men women and children? The millions that have no electricity in 130 degree heat. Imagine having drinking water so polluted that even boiling it makes you sick.

I was taught that for every one person that dies, it touches at least one hundred lives. Imagine the hate that we are generating. Imagine armed gunmen breaking down your door in the middle of the night, imprisoning the men and boys, torturing them and maybe killing them. I would hate with a hate that I can’t even discribe. What would I do? God only knows, but I know it would be anything I could think of to help protect my family and country.

When did the lives of 3,000 Americans become worth more than 4 million Iraqis, that had never done anything to us? How can we justify this? How can we allow these mass murderers to continue their assault on the people of the world?

This regime has killed more Iraqis, in 5 years, than Saddam did in his 20+ years.

]]> By: NeoCONS 'R' SCUM http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066492 NeoCONS 'R' SCUM Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:07:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066492 snowJOB- go off into Hospice now, we've had enough of you and your BULLSHIT. You're the most condescending little prick most of us have ever heard; but also about the most adept at tap dancer around teh Truth- so glib, so fast on your feet. Now the nice high dose-druggies you'll get as you asses your 'life' here before riding teh fast train to Hell (TM) will allow you to go out maybe believing that some of the lies and filth that you spewed were helpful to someone besides the NoeCON SCUM you adore. You obviously didn't do it for the money. snowJOB- go off into Hospice now, we’ve had enough of you and your BULLSHIT. You’re the most condescending little prick most of us have ever heard; but also about the most adept at tap dancer around teh Truth- so glib, so fast on your feet.
Now the nice high dose-druggies you’ll get as you asses your ‘life’ here before riding teh fast train to Hell (TM) will allow you to go out maybe believing that some of the lies and filth that you spewed were helpful to someone besides the NoeCON SCUM you adore.

You obviously didn’t do it for the money.

]]> By: Bruno Hauptmann http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066456 Bruno Hauptmann Sun, 09 Sep 2007 12:31:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066456 Oh good, we're winning again, and again, and again. If we'd won World War Two this many times we would only now be holding the Nuremburg trials after all the Nazi's had died a natural death. Oh good, we’re winning again, and again, and again. If we’d won World War Two this many times we would only now be holding the Nuremburg trials after all the Nazi’s had died a natural death.

]]> By: Damian http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066430 Damian Sun, 09 Sep 2007 09:07:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066430 What a pathetic man. He won't be missed. What a pathetic man. He won’t be missed.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066330 big papa Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:31:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066330 that elusive definition of “winning”, Comment by Solitaire #146 ...this morning on C-Span... ...a TREASONOUS Bushite worshipping propaganda who*e... ...retired General (last name) Kean(e)... ...responding to a caller's query about the U.S.' arming the Sunnis- being a mistake... ...said... ..."We're not really arming the Sunnis, they're already armed"... ...a very telling inadvertent TRUTH... ...the Sunni (and Shi'ite) police and military are NOT being adequately equipped or armed... ...with the newest most sophisticated weaponry or intelligence gathering equipment... ...necessary for them to effectively "SECURE" their country... ...because the U.S. forces can't TRUST that these weapons or equipment won't be turned against them... ...moral of story?... ...the Iraqi military and police will NEVER (under U.S.occupation)... ...be allowed to "stand up"... ...so that the U.S.miltary can "stand down"... that elusive definition of “winning”,

Comment by Solitaire #146

…this morning on C-Span…

…a TREASONOUS Bushite worshipping propaganda who*e…

…retired General (last name) Kean(e)…

…responding to a caller’s query about the U.S.’ arming the Sunnis- being a mistake…

…said…

…”We’re not really arming the Sunnis, they’re already armed”…

…a very telling inadvertent TRUTH…

…the Sunni (and Shi’ite) police and military are NOT being adequately equipped or armed…

…with the newest most sophisticated weaponry or intelligence gathering equipment…

…necessary for them to effectively “SECURE” their country…

…because the U.S. forces can’t TRUST that these weapons or equipment won’t be turned against them…

…moral of story?…

…the Iraqi military and police will NEVER (under U.S.occupation)…

…be allowed to “stand up”…

…so that the U.S.miltary can “stand down”…

]]> By: Solitaire http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066319 Solitaire Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:14:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066319 Ah, that elusive definition of "winning", it's very convenvient to have it flit like a butterfly from this to that... fascinating us all while the lives of the soldiers and the souls of the Iraqi people flutter by. He's staying to pass the problem to the next guy. He's staying in Iraq until he leaves office. He lied us into Iraq and that's where he going to dump us when he's done, the little pipsqueek. He never could clean up his own messes. Ah, that elusive definition of “winning”, it’s very convenvient to have it flit like a butterfly from this to that… fascinating us all while the lives of the soldiers and the souls of the Iraqi people flutter by. He’s staying to pass the problem to the next guy. He’s staying in Iraq until he leaves office. He lied us into Iraq and that’s where he going to dump us when he’s done, the little pipsqueek. He never could clean up his own messes.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066280 big papa Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:22:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066280 ...the DEMON Snowjob remains a liar... ...even in its final hours... …the DEMON Snowjob remains a liar…

…even in its final hours…

]]> By: dlet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066275 dlet Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:18:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066275 <em>Comment by Jane E. Schneider — September 8, 2007 @ 11:09 pm</em> I hear you. I am scraping by but slowly climbing...at least I think so... It's crazy living in NYC and making good money and seem to be stuck in neutral and yet you see mad money made by people that you wonder how the heck they do it and why are they paid that for the "services" they provide which is essentially moving phantom numbers and info to somewhere else....nothing tangible or concrete. That's my soapbox for the night....tired and sleepy...g'night all. Comment by Jane E. Schneider — September 8, 2007 @ 11:09 pm

I hear you. I am scraping by but slowly climbing…at least I think so…

It’s crazy living in NYC and making good money and seem to be stuck in neutral and yet you see mad money made by people that you wonder how the heck they do it and why are they paid that for the “services” they provide which is essentially moving phantom numbers and info to somewhere else….nothing tangible or concrete. That’s my soapbox for the night….tired and sleepy…g’night all.

]]> By: Lynne Kringler http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066273 Lynne Kringler Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:16:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066273 Year.... Jan..Feb..Mar..Apr..May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2003...... 0----0 --65 --74--37-- 30--48--35-- 31--44--82--40 2004---- 47--20--52--135-80---42--54--66--80---64-137-72 2005....107--58--35--52--80---78--54--85--49---96--84--68 2006.....62---55--31--76--69---61--43--65--72--106-70--112 2007.....83---81--81-104-126-101-79--84--18---0---0----0 Please note: Jan 05, was the only year that we lost more troops than this year in Jan. April 04, was the only year that we lost more troops than this year in April. August 05, we lost one more than last year in August. All the rest of the months in all of the rest of the years we have lost more this year. Please tell me how this is working???? Year…. Jan..Feb..Mar..Apr..May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2003…… 0—-0 –65 –74–37– 30–48–35– 31–44–82–40
2004—- 47–20–52–135-80—42–54–66–80—64-137-72
2005….107–58–35–52–80—78–54–85–49—96–84–68
2006…..62—55–31–76–69—61–43–65–72–106-70–112
2007…..83—81–81-104-126-101-79–84–18—0—0—-0

Please note:
Jan 05, was the only year that we lost more troops than this year in Jan.

April 04, was the only year that we lost more troops than this year in April.

August 05, we lost one more than last year in August.

All the rest of the months in all of the rest of the years we have lost more this year.

Please tell me how this is working????

]]> By: razzmatazz http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066272 razzmatazz Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:15:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066272 $168,000 and he needs more for his health expenses. What does that tell you? $168,000 and he needs more for his health expenses. What does that tell you?

]]> By: razzmatazz http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066271 razzmatazz Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:15:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066271 Snowjob's parting shot as he turns back into dust. Snowjob’s parting shot as he turns back into dust.

]]> By: Jane E. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066266 Jane E. Schneider Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:09:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066266 Comment by dlet — September 8, 2007 @ 11:05 pm Well, I know that it's MY woe right now. :( Comment by dlet — September 8, 2007 @ 11:05 pm

Well, I know that it’s MY woe right now. :(

]]> By: dlet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066263 dlet Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:05:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066263 Comment by Jane E. Schneider Isn't living beyond your means one of the righty accusations of the poor and middle class woes? Comment by Jane E. Schneider

Isn’t living beyond your means one of the righty accusations of the poor and middle class woes?

]]> By: Jane E. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066253 Jane E. Schneider Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:54:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066253 "You on the other hand are living a very cozy life." Comment by dlet — September 8, 2007 @ 10:51 pm Yes, but he's leaving because he's pleading poverty at $168,000/year. But then he won't have a job, so...I'm confused. “You on the other hand are living a very cozy life.”
Comment by dlet — September 8, 2007 @ 10:51 pm

Yes, but he’s leaving because he’s pleading poverty at $168,000/year. But then he won’t have a job, so…I’m confused.

]]> By: dlet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066251 dlet Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:51:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066251 <em>‘Ah, we’re getting killed.’ I mean literally,” White House press secretary Tony Snow said in an interview.</em> Um...no. GIs are getting killed. You on the other hand are living a very cozy life. Why does Tony Snow belittle our troops? ‘Ah, we’re getting killed.’ I mean literally,” White House press secretary Tony Snow said in an interview.

Um…no. GIs are getting killed. You on the other hand are living a very cozy life. Why does Tony Snow belittle our troops?

]]> By: sconset http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066228 sconset Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:33:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066228 Tony, just go back to your office and clean out your desk. This guys meds are starting to have a real toll on him--a man out of touch with reality. This gang in the White House and the repugs live in a fantasy world. It's easy for them to say the surge is working they have nothing invested in it--none of their kids are serving nor are they about to. Tony, just go back to your office and clean out your desk. This guys meds are starting to have a real toll on him–a man out of touch with reality.

This gang in the White House and the repugs live in a fantasy world. It’s easy for them to say the surge is working they have nothing invested in it–none of their kids are serving nor are they about to.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066215 Wayne Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:20:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066215 I was in ARRS (air/sea rescue now) and went to jump school at Benning. --- upside00 82nd Airborne , 2nd Brigade - 2BCT 1982-1991. Everyone in the 82nd is trained to jump and is ( puposed to be ) ready for rapid deployment anywhere in the world within 18 hours. From the grunt on potato peeling duty in the mess hall on up are all trained paratroopers. =() I was in ARRS (air/sea rescue now) and went to jump school at Benning. — upside00

82nd Airborne , 2nd Brigade – 2BCT 1982-1991.

Everyone in the 82nd is trained to jump and is ( puposed to be ) ready for rapid deployment anywhere in the world within 18 hours. From the grunt on potato peeling duty in the mess hall on up are all trained paratroopers. =()

]]> By: NRA Gunnutes http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066213 NRA Gunnutes Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:13:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066213 <strong>Yeah, well after those SEVEN THAT DIED YESTERDAY, we're NO LONGER getting killed... Yup...</strong> Yeah, well after those SEVEN THAT DIED YESTERDAY, we’re NO LONGER getting killed…

Yup…

]]> By: Sharon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066181 Sharon Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:52:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066181 Good evening all,..This is my first post of the day and likely the only one... This morning my neighbor sent me to Home Depot to pick up a truck load of OSB and insulation for my little project....One of the loader's that I see there often was helping me load and on the phone ,,,,He was upset, heard his son in Iraq was injured (again today) and coulden't get any info...Since bull shit and the military have blocked the internet to the troop's it take's forever to get any information..He was livid and as we spoke I found out why,,,,,Seems his son is on his 3rd tour of 13 month's and this is the 3rd time he has been wounded....I coulden't believe what I was hearing and he was unable to comprehend this was again happening to his son...I said I thought they got to come home when they were wounded and he said " they make them stay unless they looose limb's or get severe head injuries...He and I were both in tear's..He gave me a hug, I gave him my Blessings and his parting word's were' Please drive that old truck with all the Impeach sticker's on it as much as you can afford, out son's live's depend on it."",,,,,Blessings all and please light a candle or say a preyer for all our troop's to come home safe... Good evening all,..This is my first post of the day and likely the only one…

This morning my neighbor sent me to Home Depot to pick up a truck load of OSB and insulation for my little project….One of the loader’s that I see there often was helping me load and on the phone ,,,,He was upset, heard his son in Iraq was injured (again today) and coulden’t get any info…Since bull shit and the military have blocked the internet to the troop’s it take’s forever to get any information..He was livid and as we spoke I found out why,,,,,Seems his son is on his 3rd tour of 13 month’s and this is the 3rd time he has been wounded….I coulden’t believe what I was hearing and he was unable to comprehend this was again happening to his son…I said I thought they got to come home when they were wounded and he said ” they make them stay unless they looose limb’s or get severe head injuries…He and I were both in tear’s..He gave me a hug, I gave him my Blessings and his parting word’s were’ Please drive that old truck with all the Impeach sticker’s on it as much as you can afford, out son’s live’s depend on it.”",,,,,Blessings all and please light a candle or say a preyer for all our troop’s to come home safe…

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/comment-page-3/#comment-4066165 upside00 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:47:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/08/snow-were-no-longer-getting-killed-in-iraq/#comment-4066165 <em>You’re still a failure Mr. Pee-Brain Comment by Wayne — September 8, 2007 @ 9:35 pm</em> mr. p is like a cockroach, he keeps crawling out from under the sink, no matter how much he gets sprayed with reality and truth. You’re still a failure Mr. Pee-Brain

Comment by Wayne — September 8, 2007 @ 9:35 pm

mr. p is like a cockroach, he keeps crawling out from under the sink, no matter how much he gets sprayed with reality and truth.

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