Comments on: MoveOn stages actual ‘dog and pony show.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:22:41 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068632 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:01:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068632 O.K., now here come the questions!!! Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 2:34 pm Chicken, chicken....chicken! O.K., now here come the questions!!!

Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 2:34 pm

Chicken, chicken….chicken!

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068592 Jake D. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:52:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068592 That last comment was for another thread: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/10/petraeus-hearing-underway/#comment-4068573 If anyone NOT on the "Ignore List" wants to discuss the topic (or whether labeling someone "war monger" is a personal attack), let me know. That last comment was for another thread: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/10/petraeus-hearing-underway/#comment-4068573

If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss the topic (or whether labeling someone “war monger” is a personal attack), let me know.

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068541 Jake D. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:34:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068541 O.K., now here come the questions!!! O.K., now here come the questions!!!

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068521 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:27:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068521 I don’t waste my time with those who won’t answer my questions and/or resort to personal attacks. Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 2:11 pm That's the way I like to see war mongers: barefoot and humbled! I don’t waste my time with those who won’t answer my questions and/or resort to personal attacks.

Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 2:11 pm

That’s the way I like to see war mongers: barefoot and humbled!

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068450 Jake D. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:11:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068450 When did you answer my Question #1 above? I don't waste my time with those who won't answer my questions and/or resort to personal attacks. When did you answer my Question #1 above? I don’t waste my time with those who won’t answer my questions and/or resort to personal attacks.

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068430 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:08:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068430 but will so note in case I ever have to advise you of the same. Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 1:57 pm Advise me of whatever you want but, don't run away from your own questions. I'm waiting for answers which you have not provided and I am not letting you get away with it. Put up or, shut up! but will so note in case I ever have to advise you of the same.

Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 1:57 pm

Advise me of whatever you want but, don’t run away from your own questions. I’m waiting for answers which you have not provided and I am not letting you get away with it. Put up or, shut up!

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068376 Jake D. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:57:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068376 "You obviously don’t [care for the truth]" is NOT a personal attack? I am not so clear about that in the rest of the "reality-based world" but will so note in case I ever have to advise you of the same. “You obviously don’t [care for the truth]” is NOT a personal attack? I am not so clear about that in the rest of the “reality-based world” but will so note in case I ever have to advise you of the same.

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068287 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:35:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068287 Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 1:15 pm No intent to attack you personally. Is that clear? Lies: WMD's, connection to 9/11, spreading democracy as reason for war, oil is not an issue, hatred of Islam by fundamentalist Christians, etc, etc, Hopefully, bin-Laden will not be able to attack the USA, hurrayhh! But he did before and the Commander in Chief was asleep or, better said, cutting brush in Crawford Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 1:15 pm

No intent to attack you personally. Is that clear?

Lies: WMD’s, connection to 9/11, spreading democracy as reason for war, oil is not an issue, hatred of Islam by fundamentalist Christians, etc, etc,

Hopefully, bin-Laden will not be able to attack the USA, hurrayhh! But he did before and the Commander in Chief was asleep or, better said, cutting brush in Crawford

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068213 Jake D. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:15:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068213 Careful with the personal attacks -- you said you were here for "intelligent" and reasoned debate -- here's a list of every country's intelligence agencies: http://www.fas.org/irp/world/index.html My pending questions to you: 1) Did you see my question above: “Dogs and ponies” while American troops are dying overseas? 2) What “lies” are you referring to? 3) We can at least agree there’s been no terrorist attacks here at home since 2001, right? 4) You think it’s just a coincidence and not attributable to anything Bush did? Careful with the personal attacks — you said you were here for “intelligent” and reasoned debate — here’s a list of every country’s intelligence agencies:

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/index.html

My pending questions to you:

1) Did you see my question above: “Dogs and ponies” while American troops are dying overseas?

2) What “lies” are you referring to?

3) We can at least agree there’s been no terrorist attacks here at home since 2001, right?

4) You think it’s just a coincidence and not attributable to anything Bush did?

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068205 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:13:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068205 You mean when he allowed the most intrusive inspection conditions ever, before W Bush ordered the inspectors out so he could start his "Shock and Awe". I don't care for Saddam's recalcitrance but I do care for the thruth. You obviously don't. You mean when he allowed the most intrusive inspection conditions ever, before W Bush ordered the inspectors out so he could start his “Shock and Awe”. I don’t care for Saddam’s recalcitrance but I do care for the thruth. You obviously don’t.

]]> By: Bob Day http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068204 Bob Day Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:12:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068204 Jake D. that BS you spouting has been DEBUNKED! Saddam"s son in law told the Bush Adminstration that those WMD"s had been destroyed! The CIA also told them. Please...... Give it a rest. You are making a fool out of yourself. Jake D. that BS you spouting has been DEBUNKED! Saddam”s son in law told the Bush Adminstration that those WMD”s had been destroyed! The CIA also told them. Please…… Give it a rest. You are making a fool out of yourself.

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068195 Jake D. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:09:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068195 No apologies necessary (I don't have a full-time secretary anymore either : ) No apologies necessary (I don’t have a full-time secretary anymore either : )

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068180 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:04:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068180 Sorry again, SHOULD have said, the Iraq War Sorry again, SHOULD have said, the Iraq War

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068179 Jake D. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:04:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068179 Bob Day: I don't think that is the intelligent, reasonable discourse that JoeCaribe was looking for. JoeCaribe: Would you like me to list every country's intelligence agency here? I would be happy to do so, as soon as you answer my questions to you. It wasn't just us and the British. France and Russia thought Saddam had WMD too (although they each wanted to keep Saddam in power for other reasons -- kinda blows your "self-serving" argument out of the water). Of course, to be fair, many countries based their own intelligence estimates on ours, the UN, and Saddam's recalcitrance as well. Bob Day:

I don’t think that is the intelligent, reasonable discourse that JoeCaribe was looking for.

JoeCaribe:

Would you like me to list every country’s intelligence agency here? I would be happy to do so, as soon as you answer my questions to you. It wasn’t just us and the British. France and Russia thought Saddam had WMD too (although they each wanted to keep Saddam in power for other reasons — kinda blows your “self-serving” argument out of the water). Of course, to be fair, many countries based their own intelligence estimates on ours, the UN, and Saddam’s recalcitrance as well.

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068155 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:58:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068155 Sorry, shoud have said: the Iraq War Sorry, shoud have said: the Iraq War

]]> By: Bob Day http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068142 Bob Day Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:55:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068142 Jake D. you are full of it. STFU! Jake D. you are full of it. STFU!

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068141 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:55:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068141 If you don't think that Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq, you're positively in the minority. Who's every intelligengy agency in the world: the CIA, MI6, please tell me and also explain why they wouldn't have self-serving reasons to justify the Ira If you don’t think that Bush lied about WMD’s in Iraq, you’re positively in the minority. Who’s every intelligengy agency in the world: the CIA, MI6, please tell me and also explain why they wouldn’t have self-serving reasons to justify the Ira

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068076 Jake D. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:40:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068076 JoeCaribe: I don't think Bush "lied" about WMD -- every intelligence agency in the world thought Saddam had WMD -- what "lies" are you referring to? What I would like to discuss in the fact that there are good, solid reasons for fighting terrorists in Iraq. We can at least agree there's been no terrorist attacks here at home since 2001, right? You think it's just a coincidence and not attributable to anything Bush did? JoeCaribe:

I don’t think Bush “lied” about WMD — every intelligence agency in the world thought Saddam had WMD — what “lies” are you referring to? What I would like to discuss in the fact that there are good, solid reasons for fighting terrorists in Iraq. We can at least agree there’s been no terrorist attacks here at home since 2001, right? You think it’s just a coincidence and not attributable to anything Bush did?

]]> By: upright left http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068045 upright left Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:33:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068045 “As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.” Comment by toasterhead — September 10, 2007 @ 11:16 am Ah, you were unaware that it's possible to absorb so much of the philosophical garbage that passes for higher education that your perception of reality is altered and you lose your common sense. The same thing used to be accomplished with LSD, but people died from that. Not to be deterred, progs discovered if they populated schools with their kind and bombarded students with their message in every course of study, they could alter the perceptions of many students quite nicely. ;) “As people do better, they start voting like Republicans – unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.”

Comment by toasterhead — September 10, 2007 @ 11:16 am

Ah, you were unaware that it’s possible to absorb so much of the philosophical garbage that passes for higher education that your perception of reality is altered and you lose your common sense. The same thing used to be accomplished with LSD, but people died from that. Not to be deterred, progs discovered if they populated schools with their kind and bombarded students with their message in every course of study, they could alter the perceptions of many students quite nicely. ;)

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/comment-page-2/#comment-4068043 JoeCaribe Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:33:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/09/moveon-stages-actual-dog-and-pony-show/#comment-4068043 What would like to discuss if not these cheap political stunts? Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 12:08 pm What is it that you would like to discuss? Is it the lies to justify the Iraq war? Come on, man; speak up! What would like to discuss if not these cheap political stunts?

Comment by Jake D. — September 10, 2007 @ 12:08 pm

What is it that you would like to discuss? Is it the lies to justify the Iraq war? Come on, man; speak up!

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