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The chart Petraeus won’t show.

By Faiz on Sep 10th, 2007 at 12:00 am

The chart Petraeus won’t show.»

The AP reveals that a “briefing chart prepared by the Defense Intelligence Agency says what Gen. David Petraeus won’t. Insurgent attacks against Iraqi civilians, their security forces and U.S. troops remain high.” Most of the insurgent attacks in Iraq continue to be focused on U.S. forces, as the chart shows:

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UPDATE: Petraeus will reportedly say he wants another six months.

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  1. Marie Says:

    The idea is to kick this down the road into 2009 - everyone knows that.
    The military doesn’t even count all the dead — bullets in the back of the head are counted; in the front of the head are not.
    Even the simultaneous bombing last month that killed hundreds wasn’t counted.
    They are making their own statistics show what they want them to show.
    Bush can’t get out of Iraq; Bush won’t admit he is a failure; so everyone has to lie because they won’t offend the petulant boy-king.


  2. Habalaarz Says:

    This just means that the surge has been protecting Iraqi civilians!

    More proof that the current strategy is a success!!!


  3. Trajan Says:

    We need more troops and more time for victory, not charts and good will. Morality is for the weak. We nedd to be more like the terrorists to win this epic crusade.


  4. bilbogaggins Says:

    chart is bullshit!
    Comment by EasyRider

    The chart is bullshit because it doesn’t say what you want to hear. Too bad your mind is so closed. When you are shown facts, verifiable facts, you would rather believe the propaganda (not verifiable) than the truth. You are a very sad human being.


  5. Carol Lam Says:

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  6. Habalaarz Says:

    I guess the libs realize that this chart doesn’t mean shit, that’s why they are spaming the thread!


  7. ipod Says:

    Petraeus will reportedly say he wants another six months.

    reportedly??!!?? - he will most definately say that - we all shouldn’t be surprised when he says ’stay the course’ - it’s a slam dunk!! - since when have they moved in any other direction on this mess


  8. scooter Says:

    If PETRAEUS report is that the surge is not working and we should get out NOW,,, will LIBTARD land suddenly sing his praises and tell everyone,,, “he was the ONE CONGRESS sent to give recommendations and thus should be followed”?


  9. AngryOne Says:

    For the latest Iraq war news, reports, statistics and key documents, including the GAO, Jones, and updated NIE reports, visit:
    “The Iraq Document Center.”


  10. scooter Says:

    If you are so convinced that the mission in IRAQ is a failure then why don’t you just VOTE down the FUNDING?

    It appears that the DEMS in congress don’t view it as you do…. (although they talk that way when you are listening)

    Thier VOTES to fund the mission is HOW they FEEL about it… suckers


  11. AntiFed1791 Says:

    JUST COME HOME!


  12. www.headybrew.net Says:

    I can’t believe we’re still calling them “insurgents”. This is a republican spin word form the very start. If they are insurgents, then where are they insurging from? Wait a minute, maybe they’re actually 98% Iraqi citizens. Yup, that’s the truth. 98% of them are Iraqi citizens, and they’re focusing their attacks on American troops. Hmmm…. sounds like we are the ones doing the insurging.


  13. Jake D. Says:

    SIX MONTHS!!!


  14. Habalaarz Says:

    #14 shouldn’t even be dignified with a response.


  15. scooter Says:

    I can’t believe we’re still calling them “insurgents”. This is a republican spin word form the very start. If they are insurgents, then where are they insurging from? Wait a minute, maybe they’re actually 98% Iraqi citizens. Yup, that’s the truth. 98% of them are Iraqi citizens, and they’re focusing their attacks on American troops. Hmmm…. sounds like we are the ones doing the insurging.

    Comment by http://www.headybrew.net

    Your right they are FREEDOM FIGHTERS, even though they kill many more of thier own citizens (most who don’t even work with the US) they are not TERRORISTS or INSURGENTS..

    They are the builders of a NEW nation… just like the AYATOLLAH in IRAN. Unfortunatly BUSH is not as smart as CARTER was when he let the SHAH fall and a legit GOVT. of FANATICS take over.

    We need to get out of IRAQ NOW so these NEW FREEDOM fighters can set up thier country in IRANS example.


  16. Scoter Heart Osama Says:

    This pretty mush shows what I thought, Osama wants the troops to stay, not leave.
    ~~~~~~~~~

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 12:43 am
    I think I hear mrp calling you from the bathroom stall.


  17. Scootersmom Says:

    Hey Scooter, how ’bout because your idiot president vetoed it, and your idiot representatives threatened fillibuster. Idiot. It’s ok, they won’t be able to play that card starting 01/09.


  18. anon Says:

    #

    chart is bullshit!

    Comment by EasyRider — September 10, 2007 @ 12:06 am

    The DIA, source of the chart, is part of the military, not a liberal think tank. Apparently you can call bullshit, but feel no need to explain yourself.


  19. Scoter Parody? Says:

    We need to get out of IRAQ NOW so these NEW FREEDOM fighters can set up thier country in IRANS example.
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007

    What? Surely this is a scooter parody? Right?


  20. scootersmom Says:

    You’re right Scooter. Osama DOES want us to stay. So he can bleed us like we trained him to do to the Soviets. Too bad we went nuke hunting in Iraq instead of catching him.


  21. scooter Says:

    OSAMA,,,, your still alive ehhhh?
    Don’t lie,,,, we know you want them gone. (thats why your pulling for HILLARY and giveing her money through INTERMEDIARIES)

    Do you want the troops to leave just IRAQ or also AFGHANISTAN? How about KUWAIT? or JAPAN?

    Do tell


  22. scooter Says:

    Hey Scooter, how ’bout because your idiot president vetoed it, and your idiot representatives threatened fillibuster. Idiot. It’s ok, they won’t be able to play that card starting 01/09.

    Comment by Scootersmom

    Apparently all that is needed for DEMS to give in,,, is to threaten a fillibuster.

    Wow why did’nt you tell the REPUBLICANS sooner,,, we could have gotten so much more done.


  23. Jake D. Says:

    Keep up the good work, scooter : )


  24. Master P Says:

    Notice how the libs can’t answer any of scooter’s questions!!!


  25. scooter Says:

    You’re right Scooter. Osama DOES want us to stay. So he can bleed us like we trained him to do to the Soviets. Too bad we went nuke hunting in Iraq instead of catching him.

    Comment by scootersmom

    Silly BUSH,,, hunting NUKES in IRAQ and OSAMA in AFGHANISTAN,,,,,

    Why can’t he just do nothing like BILL? Does’nt he understand that to give PEACE a chance means you just GRIN and take the BOMBINGS with a SMILE?

    BUSH could sure learn from the MASTER after all the EMBASSY bombings,,,, BILL was the BEST.


  26. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:09 am

    Now, you are on ignore, Luntzian emotional irrational projectionist.

    Neurscience proves Scooters dont think.
    http://www.latimes.com/ news/ science/ la-sci-politics10sep10,0,5982337.story?coll=la-home-center


  27. Rapture Says:

    All republicans take their marching orders from Bin Laden.What a bunch of cowards every single on of them are. As for the trolls here..pillow biting cowards as well,behind a keypad instead of fighting this war they supposedly believe in. Join up ya sissy whiners and then maybe davy betray-us will give your wife a poke when you come home without legs or a face.


  28. scootersmom Says:

    I take it you wouldn’t mind if China set up a few “strategically placed” military bases across the US? You’re a true patriot Scooter.


  29. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 1:15 am

    scooter is on ignore for being a projectionist irrational Luntz, just like you are.


  30. scooter Says:

    I think that BILLS ability to IGNORE the bombings coming from OSAMA was directly correlated to his relationship with HILLARY.

    She is cold and FRIGID,,, forcing our former PRES into the arms of a FAT intern.

    You see he could no longer IGNORE his FEELINGS and NEEDS and used them all up in the OVAL OFFICE with MONICA… How could ANYBODY deal with the BOMBINGS of our embassies with this going on.

    I blame HILLARY,,,


  31. scooter Says:

    All republicans take their marching orders from Bin Laden.What a bunch of cowards every single on of them are. As for the trolls here..pillow biting cowards as well,behind a keypad instead of fighting this war they supposedly believe in. Join up ya sissy whiners and then maybe davy betray-us will give your wife a poke when you come home without legs or a face.

    Comment by Rapture

    Will you now sign up to go to AFGHANISTAN?


  32. Vesica Piscium Says:

    “This is about the best he [Osama] can do. This is a man on the run from a cave who is virtually impotent other than these tapes.” -Francis Townsend Bush Homeland Security Advisor.

    Impotent Osama. You can crawl out from the basement know my submissive lemmings. Osama wants the troops to stay, and also so he can harm our economy. Dont listen to what homocidal madmen say, even though he is your daddy scooter, he molested you once remember?. =)


  33. Osama Bin Laden (R-scooterville) Says:

    There is no better friend to jihadists and terrorists that George Bush, and his father as well. These guys made me possible! How can you not love them! Without the Bush family, Auschwitz wouldn’t have been built! These guys are the best. We thank them, and Allah thanks them. We also are grateful for the ignorance of the scooter person that visits here, because without that kind of nonsensical, lopsided worship of our friend Bush, we would have to deal with a liberal administration, and it would be the end of us. Imagine, we would be marginalized and declawed of Al Gore were in the Shite House. Thanks be to scooter, and Allah!


  34. scooter Says:

    I take it you wouldn’t mind if China set up a few “strategically placed” military bases across the US? You’re a true patriot Scooter.

    Comment by scootersmom

    Only if they set up some more cool factories,,, so I can buy my next bike for $10 instead of $30 for shipping charges.

    Like the DEMS i’m a sucker for a really cheap bicycle.

    As to the MILITARY bases,,,, I’m all for it as soon as they can ELECT thier leaders like the REST of us….
    (you don’t fear BRITISH, CANADIAN, or GERMAN bases do you?)


  35. Vesica Piscium Says:

    In Congress, Clinton was thwarted by the reactionary conservative majority in virtually every attempt he made to pass legislation that would attack al-Qaeda and terrorism.

    Actually I think Bill was thwarted by (R)Luntzian Lunatics


  36. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Hey scooters mom, don’t let him buy a chinese bicycle, he will just get sick from eatcing the peeling lead paint.

    But he would propably like the fact they come with a pole and no seat.

    Maybe Mark Foley wil go biking with him.


  37. Rapture Says:

    Sorry Scooty,unlike you I would never follow a single suggestion much less an order from the alcoholic retard we have as prez right now.
    I would however have no problem pulling the trigger on your ilk should civil war ever begin in this country. Now run along and get yourself a juice box and a cookie.


  38. scooter Says:

    Imagine, we would be marginalized and declawed of Al Gore were in the Shite House. Thanks be to scooter, and Allah!

    Comment by Osama Bin Laden

    I think your right about AL GORE,,,, he’d come down with a real HAMMER on you GUYS for the pollution and GLOBAL WARMING you commit. (you know the real dangerous stuff)

    On the other hand OSAMA,,, if you just tell AL you won’t FART anymore and send him a NICE CHECK then all is well.
    PEACE IN OUR TIME KUMBAYAAA….LALALALA


  39. ipod Says:

    BUSH could sure learn from the MASTER after all the EMBASSY bombings,,,, BILL was the BEST.

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:15 am

    actually he DID learn and pretty good too - remember the briefings that were given to geogie boy that he didn’t read? - and then,on his watch 4 planes got hijacked by a bunch of arabs with box cutters and 3000 people died - oh and sitting on his ass doing nothing after being told the country was under attack….so scoot,in a sense he was better at doing nothing than bill was


  40. scooter Says:

    Sorry Scooty,unlike you I would never follow a single suggestion much less an order from the alcoholic retard we have as prez right now.
    I would however have no problem pulling the trigger on your ilk should civil war ever begin in this country. Now run along and get yourself a juice box and a cookie.

    Comment by Rapture

    Now that is some STUFF yeah….

    Calm down RAPTURE,,,, you might not want to do that CIVIL WAR stuff as the MILITARY/NRA/COUNTRY DUDES overwhelmingly votes REPUBLICAN….

    It’s generally not considered a SMART thing to go to WAR with PACIFISTS on your side. (can they refuse to join YOUR war on CONSCIENTIOS objections?)


  41. Frank J. Says:

    so scoot,in a sense he was better at doing nothing than bill was

    Comment by ipod — September 10, 2007 @ 1:35 am

    In a sense? He’s hasn’t done jack-shit since 1/20/01. funny, he makes Reagan look smart and industrious, two things Reagan definitely wasn’t. let scooter rewrite history with his lies and envy; nobody believes a single word he says except pee, and we know what meth has done to pee. paying attention to scooter except to piss on him is really a waste of time.


  42. scooter Says:

    actually he DID learn and pretty good too - remember the briefings that were given to geogie boy that he didn’t read? - and then,on his watch 4 planes got hijacked by a bunch of arabs with box cutters and 3000 people died - oh and sitting on his ass doing nothing after being told the country was under attack….so scoot,in a sense he was better at doing nothing than bill was

    Comment by ipod

    These were not the same BRIEFINGS that TOLD bush to NOT do anything after the EMBASSY bombings were they?
    Your right about BUSH not following the BRIEFINGS.


  43. p Says:

    It’s generally not considered a SMART thing to go to WAR with PACIFISTS on your side. (can they refuse to join YOUR war on CONSCIENTIOS objections?)

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:39 am

    pacifists would kick the shit out of the pussy chickenhawk brigade. NRA? more bigmouthed cowards. shooting at paper isn’t quite the same. don’t forget, the south lost big, and the rightwing chickenhawks have the same idiot mentality that got the south creamed.


  44. dave from queens Says:

    FActs do have a well known liberal bias.

    Compared to 2006, Iraq has more lawlessness, more US troops dieing, less security, and less infrastructure.

    But despite what the facts say, Petraeus will lie his ass off. There are few people in America who are more anti-troop and anti-military than David Petraeus.


  45. DanInTX Says:

    scooter, your capitalization confuses me, but I’m new here, so I guess it must not be weird to the rest of y’all.
    also, “(you don’t fear BRITISH, CANADIAN, or GERMAN bases do you?)” is undercut if you look up a line or two to the quote. The word used is “mind” not “fear”. And I can say pretty certainly that any American citizen would “mind” any kind of permanent foreign military bases on our sovereign soil, which is what I imagine scootersmom was trying to get at…


  46. michael Says:

    These were not the same BRIEFINGS that TOLD bush to NOT do anything after the EMBASSY bombings were they?
    Your right about BUSH not following the BRIEFINGS.

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:42 am

    of course, it was republicans who refused to do anything after the embassy bombings, because they were too busy peeking in bill’s window, jealous as usual.


  47. scooter Says:

    In a sense? He’s hasn’t done jack-shit since 1/20/01. funny, he makes Reagan look smart and industrious, two things Reagan definitely wasn’t. let scooter rewrite history with his lies and envy; nobody believes a single word he says except pee, and we know what meth has done to pee. paying attention to scooter except to piss on him is really a waste of time.

    Comment by Frank J

    RON, is that you buddy…?
    C’mon man,,,, don’t hide like that. Don’t you know your little hiding example is keeping BARNEY FRANK locked up in the BATHROOM in CONGRESS?
    (he apparently told CRAIG the secrets of the HOOK UP)


  48. Rapture Says:

    #45…..Took the words right out of my mouth. The south once again would have their asses handed to them.


  49. barney frank Says:

    (he apparently told CRAIG the secrets of the HOOK UP)

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:45 am

    and craig aparently told you. was it before or after the shoe-tapping you perverts signal each other with?


  50. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    RON, is that you buddy…?
    C’mon man,,,, don’t hide like that. Don’t you know your little hiding example is keeping BARNEY FRANK locked up in the BATHROOM in CONGRESS?
    (he apparently told CRAIG the secrets of the HOOK UP)
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:45 am

    Oh Scooter, you GOP CONTurds don’t need help finding the dirty secret sex opportunities - it’s your SPECIALTY!!!! See unlike you Frank doesn’t need to do the DOWN LOW - that’s a GOP SPECIALTY!! Right Old Man ;)


  51. barney frank Says:

    Larry CRAIG told me scooter LIKES to be PISSED ON. he tries to CATCH it in his MOUTH,,,,,


  52. scooter Says:

    scooter, your capitalization confuses me, but I’m new here, so I guess it must not be weird to the rest of y’all.
    also, “(you don’t fear BRITISH, CANADIAN, or GERMAN bases do you?)” is undercut if you look up a line or two to the quote. The word used is “mind” not “fear”. And I can say pretty certainly that any American citizen would “mind” any kind of permanent foreign military bases on our sovereign soil, which is what I imagine scootersmom was trying to get at…

    Comment by DanInTX

    Sorry you don’t like the CAPS,,,,
    Sorry about the MIND and FEAR,,,, i assumed for the example it did not matter.

    As to the BRITISH, CANADIAN, or GERMAN,,,, the example is PERTINENT as WE HAVE BASES THERE!
    And many other places that the locals don’t fear us and we don’t fear them. (they actually view us as helping,,, can you believe it)

    But hey man,,,,,,, lets get them all HOME NOW right.


  53. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    I think your right about AL GORE,,,, he’d come down with a real HAMMER on you GUYS for the pollution and GLOBAL WARMING you commit. (you know the real dangerous stuff) Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:35 am

    At least he wouldn’t have been Stupid enough to ATTACK THE WRONG COUNTRY and say OSAMA shouldn’t be BROUGHT TO JUSTICE!!!

    On the other hand OSAMA,,, if you just tell AL you won’t FART anymore and send him a NICE CHECK then all is well.
    PEACE IN OUR TIME KUMBAYAAA….LALALALA
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:35 am

    Blah, Blah, Blah, that’s what your dumbass redneck post says. Put it in ENGLISH next time AMIGO!


  54. ted nugent. Says:

    I can’t figure out how scooter can defend the military/nra/country morons that vote Republican. thet’re certainly too stupid to be afraid of, just by the fact that they are poor white trash, and still vote republican. that kind of stupidity is reserved for losers, like cooter.

    oops. scooter.


  55. scootersmom Says:

    I won’t let Foley play with Scooter anymore, too many police reports to file. However, Larry Craig is a family man, the type of moral upstanding character that Republics like myself wouldn’t mind having around to mentor my 10 year old son. And I hear he’s got some free time on his hands now. No, wait, not time, Scooters ass.


  56. scooter Says:

    #45…..Took the words right out of my mouth. The south once again would have their asses handed to them.

    Comment by Rapture

    So conservatives are like the south? HMMMMM
    How about any area that is not a CITY….?
    Or did you not see the RED covering the NATION for the BUSH/KERRY election.

    You better rephrase that,,,
    not the south but EVERYWHERE a major CITY is NOT.


  57. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Sorry you don’t like the CAPS,,,,
    Sorry about the MIND and FEAR,,,, i assumed for the example it did not matter. Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:51 am

    Your grammar is like a drunk third grader! Get an education AMIGO!

    As to the BRITISH, CANADIAN, or GERMAN,,,, the example is PERTINENT as WE HAVE BASES THERE!
    And many other places that the locals don’t fear us and we don’t fear them. (they actually view us as helping,,, can you believe it) Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:51 am

    Except Japan, where we tend to rape their school girls, and Italy where we kill citizens while destroying the ski lifts, and Germany where they fear our nuclear presence. Oh wait, that destroys your myth! Dumbass!

    But hey man,,,,,,, lets get them all HOME NOW right.
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:51 am

    Hey, that’s fine! But in those other countries at least the locals don’t COMPLETELY HATE OUR GUTS because we’re BOMBING AND KILLING THEIR CHILDREN! Right sport..,,,,,,,,

    Learn to type like an ADULT, not a PSYCHOTIC ASSCLOWN!!!


  58. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    So conservatives are like the south? HMMMMMComment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:54 am

    The south is disproportionately Conservative, and Conservatives are disproportionately inbred…

    How about any area that is not a CITY….?
    Or did you not see the RED covering the NATION for the BUSH/KERRY election. Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:54 am

    You should REVISIT those maps, dumbass. The SOUTH is all you’ve got!

    You better rephrase that,,,
    not the south but EVERYWHERE a major CITY is NOT.
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:54 am

    Oh, poor dumbass, that’s JUST NOT TRUE! However your base is disproportionately rural, redneck, ignorant and barely literate - MUCH LIKE YOURSELF!


  59. Benedict Arnold Says:

    I take it you wouldn’t mind if China set up a few “strategically placed” military bases across the US? You’re a true patriot Scooter.

    As to the MILITARY bases,,,, I’m all for it as soon as they can ELECT thier leaders like the REST of us….
    (you don’t fear BRITISH, CANADIAN, or GERMAN bases do you?)

    here you go, folks, scooter wants chinese, british canadian and german bases in the USA. I love him!


  60. brainiac Says:

    You better rephrase that,,,
    not the south but EVERYWHERE a major CITY is NOT.

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:54 am

    not any more, stupid. keep living in the past, we’ll take care of the country while you dopey shits whine about the good old days. USA is BLUE, top to bottom, east to west.


  61. scooter Says:

    At least he wouldn’t have been Stupid enough to ATTACK THE WRONG COUNTRY and say OSAMA shouldn’t be BROUGHT TO JUSTICE!!!

    If AL,,, had been the PREZ and attacked AFGHANISTAN would YOU or the PACIFISTS been OK with that?

    Ohhh thats right,,, he would have stopped the 9/11 bombings himself (he’s superAL). In this case there would be no reason to attack AL QUEADA (ignoring the EMBASSIES and BILL of course)

    LALALALA KUBAYAA


  62. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:54 am
    I have no idea what this (R) Luntzian Lunatic is ranting about.
    ~~~~~~~

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded — September 10, 2007 @ 1:55 am

    I think we should take away those barbie dolls with the lead paint on them from China, it seems to have affected its mind.


  63. hillary Says:

    Ohhh thats right,,, he would have stopped the 9/11 bombings himself (he’s superAL).

    finally got one right.


  64. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by Benedict Arnold — September 10, 2007 @ 1:57 am

    Ignore it. The Chinese lead paint it ate will wear off after a bit.


  65. scooter Says:

    I am p, watch me melt down again. It’s starting , don’t miss it.


  66. DanInTX Says:

    If AL,,, had been the PREZ and attacked AFGHANISTAN would YOU or the PACIFISTS been OK with that?

    Ohhh thats right,,, he would have stopped the 9/11 bombings himself (he’s superAL). In this case there would be no reason to attack AL QUEADA (ignoring the EMBASSIES and BILL of course)

    LALALALA KUBAYAA
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:59 am

    While I may not be a card-carrying pacifist, I’d say I’m farther left than center. And I wholeheartedly supported the invasion of Afghanistan. They attacked us, so we responded. In fact, one of my biggest issues with the Iraq invasion - besides the lying - was that it took resources and focus away from Afghanistan and the hunt for Bin Laden. To my knowledge, this is a view shared by many you would call “PACIFISTS”


  67. scooter Says:

    As to the MILITARY bases,,,, I’m all for it as soon as they can ELECT thier leaders like the REST of us….
    (you don’t fear BRITISH, CANADIAN, or GERMAN bases do you?)

    here you go, folks, scooter wants chinese, british canadian and german bases in the USA. I love him!

    Comment by Benedict Arnold

    He’s right,,,, I don’t view any of those countries as a threat and would welcome the FACT that thier GOVT. will now have to PAY to support this BASE in our country. (like IRAQ).

    Hows that RON?


  68. scooter Says:

    retard,,,,,

    Nice to have you with us,,,,, I feel so lonely until you join the discussion


  69. Master P Says:

    Notice how the Libtards still can’t answer any of scooters questions!!!!!!


  70. scooter Says:

    While I may not be a card-carrying pacifist, I’d say I’m farther left than center. And I wholeheartedly supported the invasion of Afghanistan. They attacked us, so we responded. In fact, one of my biggest issues with the Iraq invasion - besides the lying - was that it took resources and focus away from Afghanistan and the hunt for Bin Laden. To my knowledge, this is a view shared by many you would call “PACIFISTS”

    Comment by DanInTX

    Sure DAN,,,, PACIFISTS are only so when the occasion fits thier political description….. This description includes avoiding WAR at ANY COST. (ALAA Neville Chamberlain) That is why they are pacifists…..
    But you just keep thinking that if IRAQ was not there then they would be OK with AFGHANISTAN…

    One war to protest at a time now.


  71. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 2:05 am

    …just babbling more of his nonsense, reminds me of a parkbeanch drunk, just walk on by….


  72. scooter Says:

    He’s right,,,, I don’t view any of those countries as a threat and would welcome the FACT that thier GOVT. will now have to PAY to support this BASE in our country. (like IRAQ).

    Hows that RON?

    Comment by scooter

    Could we also get FRANCE to do one here,,,,,, if they did then they would not be able to put just about all of thier countries GDP to SOCIAL PROGRAMS. They would be just like us and NEED to spend more on the MILITARY.

    YEAHHHHH


  73. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Danintx scooter just described his whole group, I think. avoiding war, yupp that would be Rove, Limbaugh, Wolfowitz,Cheney etc etc..

    The only non-pacifist was powell and the chickens crapped all over him. Ignore scooter Dan.


  74. scooter Says:

    They attacked us, so we responded

    Dan,,,, Al Queada that the country of AFGHANISTAN was harboring attacked us,,, (many times as well on BILLS watch) Not the country of AFGANISTAN….

    HMMMMM,,,, you mean we are killing thousands of civilians in afghanistan because of a few BAD apples there?
    What is our PROGRESS there? Why don’t we send a general to determine if we need just 6 more MONTHS?
    We have been there longer, and yet you don’t hear the crap about us HAVING to leave.
    Are the FANATICS there,, FREEDOM FIGHTERS?


  75. Vesica Piscium Says:

    M. A. Mortenson Co., Minneapolis, Minn., is being awarded $19,174,267 for Task Order JM01, Modification 07 (third increment of FY 2007 Base Realignment and Closure funding) under previously awarded 7-12-2007

    Scooter doesn’t know what hes talking about Dan, hes a luntzian and doesnt argue rartionally, hes just throwing around a bunch of things he hopes are facts, or youll argue he Babel [confused]


  76. owlbear1 Says:

    Ah yes the classic, flinging shit and declaring victory ritual.

    Its amazing how often they can repeat the exact same routine and not show any self-awareness.

    Truly stunning performance Scooter and Master P.

    Yet another circle jerk performed flawlessly.


  77. DanInTX Says:

    scooter, Al Qaeda allies were running the country (or did you forget?).
    As far as I know, Saddam was not harboring, or allied with in any way, Al Qaeda, they only showed up after we invaded…


  78. scooter Says:

    The only non-pacifist was powell and the chickens crapped all over him. Ignore scooter Dan.

    Comment by Vesica Piscium

    Dan,,, follow VESICA’S admonition and please do ignore me. It’s OK,,,, I’ll understand (she knows whats best for ya)


  79. DanInTX Says:

    scooter, if I was gonna ignore you, I would’ve left by now and gone back to studying my Arabic (dirty f-ing hippy that I am).
    I’m in college, I do more than enough listening to people who think they know what’s best for me in my daily life, I think I’m pretty good at filtering out when I should listen


  80. Master P Says:

    Unbelievable!!!

    The Libtards still can’t answer scooter’s questions!!!!

    LOL!!!


  81. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Boston Dynamics, Inc.*, Waltham, Mass., is being awarded a $10,000,000 completion-type, cost-plus-fixed-fee contract for research and development services to construct a dog-like robot with the capability to run fast, traverse trough terrain, jump over obstacles one meter tall or two meters wide, and operate for two hours without refueling.


  82. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 2:26 am
    All I see is babble, not even trying to answer him or you Luntz.


  83. DanInTX Says:

    Master P, what am I doing then?


  84. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Unbelievable!!!
    The Libtards still can’t answer scooter’s questions!!!!
    LOL!!!
    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 2:26 am

    Unbelievable, the CONTurds think they’re asking ACTUAL QUESTIONS!!! LOL!!!!


  85. scooter Says:

    scooter, Al Qaeda allies were running the country (or did you forget?).
    As far as I know, Saddam was not harboring, or allied with in any way, Al Qaeda, they only showed up after we invaded…

    Comment by DanInTX

    Dan,, How could a PACIFIST not get worked up about attacking a MUCH smaller helpless country that only had a FEW bad APPLES that helped the TERRORISTS? Why could’nt we just get the TERRORISTS and leave they would argue?

    As for SADDAM,,,,, Al QUEADA was very small there,,,, but he was big with ANSAR AL ISLAM and many others.
    He gave $ to the PALESTINIAN freedom fighter SUICIDES in ISRAEL. And used planes as training for his own terrorists.
    ALSO,,,, are we only against AL QUEADA? How about the IRA? are we not going to oppose other terrorists because they have not attacked us YET? Talk to the spanish about the BASQUE seperatists in their own country and you can get an IDEA about how AL QUEADA is just 1 of thousands out there…

    Furthermore, we went after SADDAM primarily for WMD.
    The same GAS we gave him and he used on others (thus we knew he had),,, and we feared he would use on us or give to terrorists


  86. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    If AL,,, had been the PREZ and attacked AFGHANISTAN would YOU or the PACIFISTS been OK with that?
    Ohhh thats right,,, he would have stopped the 9/11 bombings himself (he’s superAL). In this case there would be no reason to attack AL QUEADA (ignoring the EMBASSIES and BILL of course)
    LALALALA KUBAYAA
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 1:59 am

    You must have (still be) asleep. Where do you hear the majority of liberals complaining about Afghanistan - DUMBASS!!!! Bush had like 93% approval for invading Afghanistan - why - BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED US YOU RETARDED JACKASS!


  87. Master P Says:

    Master P, what am I doing then?

    Comment by DanInTX — September 10, 2007 @ 2:30 a

    You’re not answering scooter’s questions.


  88. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    Hes just repaeating stuff thats been debunked before.

    YAWN.


  89. Master P Says:

    And the Libtards still can’t answer scooter’s questions!!!!!!


  90. DanInTX Says:

    few bad apples, like, um, the entire government apparatus?
    Sadaam offered money, IIRC, it was either not taken or taken by only a few of the families he offered it to. I also recall it being seen as essentially a PR gesture (much like Giulinazi’s refusal to take the Saudi Prince’s money after 9/11) to bolster him from attacks for being too secularist.
    The IRA? you’re kidding right? you mean the IRA that has essentially disbanded militarily and is now part of the government? you mean that IRA?
    We should oppose all who use the tactics of terror, including our own leaders (regardless of ideological affiliation, they all do it at times), but it doesn’t make geopolitical sense to attack militarily all every country that might have terrorists (i.e. should we be invading Spain?). we deal with the clear-cut cases where we know where they are and we know that the government is clearly involved and our presence may actually help things. Afghanistan is a perfect example.
    Should we be attacking Wales too? The Free Welsh Army blows up something every 15 years or so to remind people that 5 or 6 of them still exist…


  91. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Dan,, How could a PACIFIST not get worked up about attacking a MUCH smaller helpless country that only had a FEW bad APPLES that helped the TERRORISTS? Why could’nt we just get the TERRORISTS and leave they would argue? Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    That HELPED the terrorists, BAHAHA, they harbored, supported, trained and yes PROTECTED the TERRORISTS - you F*CKING RETARD!

    As for SADDAM,,,,, Al QUEADA was very small there,,,, but he was big with ANSAR AL ISLAM and many others.Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    If by SMALL you mean NON-EXISTENT - JACKASS!

    He gave $ to the PALESTINIAN freedom fighter SUICIDES in ISRAEL. Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    He gave to widows and orphans, you f*cking cretin!

    And used planes as training for his own terrorists.Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    WTF does that mean, that SENTENCE SAYS NOTHING! WHAT TERRORISTS, you mean his SOLDIERS? YOU’RE A RETARD!

    ALSO,,,, are we only against AL QUEADA? How about the IRA? Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    What, the IRA have a concerted plan to continue attacking us, and have been attacking us? When did that happen - JACKASS! You f*cking RETARDS loved Al Qaeda when their terrorist attacks were against russia! Ever heard of BLOWBACK - RETARD?

    are we not going to oppose other terrorists because they have not attacked us YET? Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    By OPPOSE, you mean we’re going to stop ALL terrorism? By DROPPING BOMBS AND TERRORIZING PEOPLE? What a f*cking piece of sh!t fool you are!

    Talk to the spanish about the BASQUE seperatists in their own country and you can get an IDEA about how AL QUEADA is just 1 of thousands out there…Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    Yes, but last time I checked ETA wasn’t attacking the US, Osama was, and Georgie says He’s NOT A THREAT! You people are MORE INCOMPETENT than you are CLOSETED and THAT SAYS A LOT!

    Furthermore, we went after SADDAM primarily for WMD.Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    Too bad the CIA told Bush they didn’t HAVE ANY and he IGNORED REALITY and TOLD YOU F*CKING USEFUL IDIOTS what you WANTED TO HEAR to justify your BLOOD LUST!

    The same GAS we gave him and he used on others (thus we knew he had),,, and we feared he would use on us or give to terrorists
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:32 am

    Yeah, but that GOES BAD unless it’s RE-CREATED and he was UNDER SANCTIONS YOU F*CKING RETARD! The insiders knew, but they FABRICATED A PLOY TO GO FOR THE OIL!!!


  92. scooter Says:

    You must have (still be) asleep. Where do you hear the majority of liberals complaining about Afghanistan - DUMBASS!!!! Bush had like 93% approval for invading Afghanistan - why - BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED US YOU RETARDED JACKASS!

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded

    C’mon RETARD,,,, he was popular also when IRAQ fell….
    What we are talking about is the VIEW from this country on HOW MUCH PROGRESS to expect. We ignore the lack of PROGRESS in AFGHANISTAN and focus on IRAQ for NOW,,,,
    Is Afghanistan making more PROGRESS than IRAQ? Are not GI’s also being killed there? Is the GOVT. in AFGHANISTAN any more legit than the one in IRAQ?
    Why no GENERAL to tell us 6 more months in AFGHANISTAN?

    For LIBTARDS,,,,, it’s 1 country at a time,,,, easy does it
    (you can get more folks like DAN on board when you just do 1 at a time)


  93. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    You’re not answering scooter’s questions.
    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 2:37 am

    Ah Michael, You really are a RETARD!


  94. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Ya know Petraeus is the same guy who gace us all the misleading troop numbers back in 2004. And apparently the ISF, with 335,000 men. still cant stand up and protect their country.

    Heckuva job Petraeus.


  95. DanInTX Says:

    ok, masterp, give me the question I’m apparently not answering, in words I can understand (no crazy caps, proper grammar), and I’ll do my best to answer it with something longer than a one-sentence statement repeated over and over again regardless of the facts (like, for instance, “the surge is working!”)


  96. Master P Says:

    Ah Michael, You really are a RETARD!

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded — September 10, 2007 @ 2:41 am
    ———–

    I’m not michael, lib.


  97. Master P Says:

    Is Afghanistan making more PROGRESS than IRAQ? Are not GI’s also being killed there? Is the GOVT. in AFGHANISTAN any more legit than the one in IRAQ?
    Why no GENERAL to tell us 6 more months in AFGHANISTAN?


  98. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Hey I hear this is the second year in a row that afghan has record poppy crops.

    Poopy bush must be impressed with \/\/, I know mr p is happy about that.


  99. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Sure DAN,,,, PACIFISTS are only so when the occasion fits thier political description….. This description includes avoiding WAR at ANY COST.
    (ALAA Neville Chamberlain) That is why they are pacifists…..
    But you just keep thinking that if IRAQ was not there then they would be OK with AFGHANISTAN…
    One war to protest at a time now.
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:09 am

    What PACIFISTS are you REFERRING TO? Up until recently the WINGNUT REPUBLICANS were the PACIFISTS - or did you MISS THE MEMO THAT THE GOP TRIED TO STOP OUR INVOLVEMENT IN WWII?

    As for Afghanistan, why are you saying “would-be”, we ALREADY invaded Afghanistan with the approval of ALMOST EVERY american, you dumbass! Yet despite that HIGH APPROVAL, you f*ckers SQUANDERED ALL of the good will and possibilities! There are more drugs being grown there than ever before, and women are once again PROPERTY! You f*ckers can’t get ANYTHING right, even when you have ALMOST UNANIMOUS support for your cause! LOSER!


  100. scooter Says:

    Yeah, but that GOES BAD unless it’s RE-CREATED and he was UNDER SANCTIONS YOU F*CKING RETARD! The insiders knew, but they FABRICATED A PLOY TO GO FOR THE OIL!!!

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded

    Sure RETARD,,,, we needed 14 UN resolutions and HANS BLIX was only a couple of WEEKS away from determining that NOTHING was missing. He kept telling us he was sooo close,,, soo close to what? (his wallet)


  101. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    I’m not michael, lib.
    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 2:43 am

    Squeal, Squeal, you’ve been caught michael!


  102. scootersmom Says:

    What was the question? It got burried amidst his senseless ravings. Was it the one about removing bases from other countries? Maybe you’re slow and didn’t get the point I was making, which was- “Do unto others…etc”. So to answer that question, HELL YES! Maybe the ENTIRE WORLD wouldn’t be so pissed off at us. I think putting the neo-con cabal up for war crimes might also appease them.


  103. Vesica Piscium Says:

    And the Maliki government is full of corruption, what a pan that Rumsfeld didnt have, eh?


  104. scooter Says:

    What PACIFISTS are you REFERRING TO? Up until recently the WINGNUT REPUBLICANS were the PACIFISTS - or did you MISS THE MEMO THAT THE GOP TRIED TO STOP OUR INVOLVEMENT IN WWII?

    HMMMM,,,, i seem to have missed the HISTORY lesson where it shows the mass PROTESTS over 500,000 deaths in WW2. (that would have been too hard for the GOP to expoit)


  105. DanInTX Says:

    Iraq has more troops and less chance of progress in the future from our presence. Afghanistan was making progress until we reallocated our focus and resources to Iraq. No general telling us 6 more months in Afghanistan because we actually had (and maybe still have) a chance of leaving the country a relative success. hence why the general “libtard” view is that we should withdraw from Iraq and reallocate to Afghanistan where our presence could still conceivably do some good. The country is going to hell because we took our eye off the ball, as opposed to Iraq, where our presence - and the way we went in - is the cause of the country’s instability.


  106. Vesica Piscium Says:

    pooter cant even answer his own questions. MIR

    nor provide facts.


  107. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    C’mon RETARD,,,, he was popular also when IRAQ fell….Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:41 am

    Yet he didn’t have nearly universal approval, and he LIED about the reasons for invading Iraq. Unless you’re going to tell me Osama wasn’t in Afghanistan, then your conflation is RETARDED!

    What we are talking about is the VIEW from this country on HOW MUCH PROGRESS to expect. Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:41 am

    HOW MUCH PROGRESS? You mean in stopping terrorism? So far almost NONE, because you f*ckers are bogged down in a WAR OF CHOICE in Iraq!

    We ignore the lack of PROGRESS in AFGHANISTAN and focus on IRAQ for NOW,,,,Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:41 aM/em>

    No, YOU F*CKERS Ignore Afghanistan and Pakistan, which is where you SHOULD be focusing - DUMBASS!

    Is Afghanistan making more PROGRESS than IRAQ? Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:41 am

    They’re both bogged down, but Iraq is a huge financial, military and resource drain that’s a distraction from dealing with terrorism. If anything Afghanistan needs MORE efforts, and some of the money wasted in Iraq!

    Are not GI’s also being killed there? Is the GOVT. in AFGHANISTAN any more legit than the one in IRAQ?Comment by
    Why no GENERAL to tell us 6 more months in AFGHANISTAN?
    For LIBTARDS,,,,, it’s 1 country at a time,,,, easy does it
    (you can get more folks like DAN on board when you just do 1 at a time)
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:41 am

    One country at a time? BAHAHAHA, says the WINGNUT that admits we didn’t FINISH in AFGHANISTAN!!! The reason the military isn’t saying that about Afghanistan is that it’s a relatively SMALL operation that’s required because we have Nato and INTERNATIONAL support - DUMBASS!


  108. Vesica Piscium Says:

    More troops. About 24,000 U.S. troops are in Afghanistan, 3,500 more than a year ago. Overall, there are about 47,000 U.S. and NATO troops in the country.

    the troop deaths are up by 20% in afghanistan.


  109. scooter Says:

    What was the question? It got burried amidst his senseless ravings.
    Comment by scootersmom

    The question is why iraq progress is a failure but afghanistan is not.

    Afghanistan has had more time and more $ per person spent than has IRAQ.
    Why is a GENERAL in IRAQ to say 6 more months when YOU don’t CARE if we are in AFGHANISTAN for 10 more years?

    Why are we giving afghanistan a pass but not iraq?


  110. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    HMMMM,,,, i seem to have missed the HISTORY lesson where it shows the mass PROTESTS over 500,000 deaths in WW2. (that would have been too hard for the GOP to expoit)
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:47 am

    No, but you probably missed that the GOP tried to halt the funding of the war despite us being attacked by the countries we were fighting! Your CONFLATION of this affair with WWII in terms of death is ironic however, considering that our invasion of a sovereign weaker country is more like your Fascist Hero Adolph’s policies than those of the US.


  111. scootersmom Says:

    Q: How many sane people does it take to reveal Scooter is a dumbass 25%er?

    A: None! He does it all by himself!


  112. DanInTX Says:

    more $ per person? explain, with numbers if possible…


  113. Vesica Piscium Says:

    .S. commanders say the number of Taliban and insurgent fighters is back up to where it was before the U.S. military invaded Afghanistan

    Sabil knew, and 7years of reports knew there was no WMD in Iraq, it was about regime change, not WMD. The regime changed, Allawi, Maliki. but that didnt secure the country.


  114. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    The question is why iraq progress is a failure but afghanistan is not. Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:52 am

    Because it’s in a civil war, and Afghanistan isn’t?

    Afghanistan has had more time and more $ per person spent than has IRAQ.
    Why is a GENERAL in IRAQ to say 6 more months when YOU don’t CARE if we are in AFGHANISTAN for 10 more years? Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:52 am

    BAHAHAHA, SURE it has! Where are your STATISTICS - JACKASS?

    Why are we giving afghanistan a pass but not iraq?
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:52 am

    Because it’s not in the middle of a civil war of our f*cking making - JACKASS?


  115. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:52 am

    Its not a pass its another quagmire.

    what did dick cheney say in 1994 scooter?


  116. scooter Says:

    One country at a time? BAHAHAHA, says the WINGNUT that admits we didn’t FINISH in AFGHANISTAN!!! The reason the military isn’t saying that about Afghanistan is that it’s a relatively SMALL operation that’s required because we have Nato and INTERNATIONAL support - DUMBASS!

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded

    One country at a time,,,, refers to your plan to get us out of BOTH COUNTRIES….(please join your friends and argue that afganistan has no progress)
    If you think we can’t get out of afghanistan because of NATO,,,, WE BROGHT NATO IN ,,, RETARD


  117. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    more $ per person? explain, with numbers if possible…
    Comment by DanInTX — September 10, 2007 @ 2:54 am

    That poor little RETARD doesn’t even know that Afghanistan has MORE PEOPLE than Iraq does!!!! What a FOOL!


  118. Master P Says:

    And still, the Libtards can’t answer scooter’s questions!!!!!!


  119. Vesica Piscium Says:

    how long did Rummy think this would last scooter?

    What did wolfowitz say about the oil paying for reconstruction scooter?


  120. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    One country at a time,,,, refers to your plan to get us out of BOTH COUNTRIES….(please join your friends and argue that afganistan has no progress)
    If you think we can’t get out of afghanistan because of NATO,,,, WE BROGHT NATO IN ,,, RETARD
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:56 am

    The invasion of Afghanistan was a truly international affair, as is its occupation. Afghanistan has very little progress, but unlike Iraq it hasn’t FALLEN INTO THE PIT OF HELL, thanks to you f*cking INEPT REPUBLICANS!


  121. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    And still, the Libtards can’t answer scooter’s questions!!!!!!
    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 2:57 am

    And still, the CONturds can’t get the Pee Stains from their sh!t soaked whiny diapers!!!!!


  122. scooter Says:

    Because it’s not in the middle of a civil war of our f*cking making - JACKASS?

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded

    Now that’s funny,,,,, afghanstan is NOT in a CIVIL war of our making. (your starting to sound like the BUSH adm. on defending IRAQ)

    HAHAHAHA your awesome man,,,


  123. Master P Says:

    Answering a question with a question!

    Libs, that means you don’t have any answers!!!

    YOU LOSE AGAIN!!!


  124. Vesica Piscium Says:

    how many INF forces are there scooter?

    What is this operation re-bueing in the INF for?

    How many secuirty contractors in Iraq Scooter?

    What are the names of those contractors?

    How is Bechtel coming on its projects scooter?

    What about the Halliburton projects scooter? Behind ahead overcosts?


  125. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007

    I am not answering scooter mr p, havent you noticed?


  126. Master P Says:

    Liberals lose!!!

    AMERICA WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  127. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Answering a question with a question!
    Libs, that means you don’t have any answers!!!
    YOU LOSE AGAIN!!!
    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 2:59 am

    Answering an answer, with a question of where’s the answer, means you don’t have a real question, any answers, or a BRAIN. You LOSE AS ALWAYS, Pee Stain!


  128. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Now that’s funny,,,,, afghanstan is NOT in a CIVIL war of our making. (your starting to sound like the BUSH adm. on defending IRAQ)
    HAHAHAHA your awesome man,,,
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 2:59 am

    Defending Iraq? Hardly! We CREATED the circumstances for a civil war from our invasion and occupation, and it will ONLY GET WORSE as long as we’re occupying! Sorry, but the problem is BUSH and YOU have NO IMAGINATION and think there’s only ONE ANSWER (MORE WAR FROM US) to this issue.

    Then again, you Chickenhawks have ALWAYS made bad war choices!!!!


  129. scooter Says:

    The invasion of Afghanistan was a truly international affair, as is its occupation. Afghanistan has very little progress, but unlike Iraq it hasn’t FALLEN INTO THE PIT OF HELL, thanks to you f*cking INEPT REPUBLICANS!

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded

    Your right again,,,, retard,,,, we should base how well our mission is going on WHO is there screwing it up with us…… (did’nt BUSH rip KERRY in the DEBATES on not needing other countries OK)

    So,,,, a bunch of countries are screwing up afghanistan and thats OK,,,, but just us screwing up iraq is bad….

    HMMMMMM


  130. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Come on Scooter, dazzle us with HOW MUCH we’ve spent on Afghanistan compared to Iraq!!!!! This should be FUNNY to see you PRETEND you didn’t say SUCH A PATENT LIE!!!


  131. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Liberals lose!!!
    AMERICA WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 3:00 am

    That’s kinda true, because when you wingnuts WON (by stealing two elections) you created the circumstances where the whole country is now SO SICK OF YOU, that WE’RE ALL GONNA WIN FROM THE COMING TIDE OF LIBERAL POLICIES! Get ready pee-stain!!! Because AMERICA WILL WIN, and YOU LOSE!!!


  132. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007

    know whats funny mir, mr p is a liberal living off mom and dad. and he has admitted he wont join the military, he worse than a liberal, hes a deadbeat, a sponge, and a pacifist. He just trys to act like a ‘patriot’ its like his many personalities, just smoke and mirrors.


  133. DanInTX Says:

    masterp, do you even read our responses, or do you just pause a few seconds and then spit out one of a few prewritten responses?


  134. scooter Says:

    Defending Iraq? Hardly! We CREATED the circumstances for a civil war from our invasion and occupation, and it will ONLY GET WORSE as long as we’re occupying! Sorry, but the problem is BUSH and YOU have NO IMAGINATION and think there’s only ONE ANSWER (MORE WAR FROM US) to this issue.

    Then again, you Chickenhawks have ALWAYS made bad war choices!!!!

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded

    RETARD
    Please insert afghanistan into your comment above on iraq and repeat in a year after we have left IRAQ.

    Kinda scary ehhhh


  135. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Your right again,,,, retard,,,, we should base how well our mission is going on WHO is there screwing it up with us…… Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:03 am

    Lets see. Afghanistan has a standing army, 60k police officers, significantly lower bombings and violence than Iraq - sounds like it’s a CAKE WALK compared to Iraq!

    Still waiting on those DOLLAR FIGURES from you - JUST ADMIT YOU LIED SON!

    (did’nt BUSH rip KERRY in the DEBATES on not needing other countries OK) Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:03 am

    You could have just posted “BUSH didn’t rip KERRY in the DEBATES”, and that would have been the FIRST RELEVANT post you would have made!!!

    So,,,, a bunch of countries are screwing up afghanistan and thats OK,,,, but just us screwing up iraq is bad….
    HMMMMMM
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:03 am

    Well there’s mismanagement - then there is ENRON! See you f*ckers are SO INCOMPETENT, you can’t TELL THE DIFFERENCE!! LOSER!


  136. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    RETARD
    Please insert afghanistan into your comment above on iraq and repeat in a year after we have left IRAQ
    Kinda scary ehhhh
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:06 am

    RETARD, please recognize that every country is a different place with different challenges, and remember that next time you think you can COWBOY a needless war with promises of “war on the cheap” and only 6 months and we’ll be gone! STupid f*cker!


  137. Vesica Piscium Says:

    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:03 am

    cmon scooter answer my questions. mr p obviously cant. how many contractors? where are they deployed? what does that cost?

    how much fuel do we use a day? how many bullets? How much jet fel? How many airforce> How many marines? Whats it cost to kee carriers in the gulf of Iran? What about the navy personnel how many? How much fuelt does that use?
    how much does the DOD award in contracts on a daily basis?


  138. scootersmom Says:

    Now answer MY question: Why are we in Iraq?


  139. scooter Says:

    Come on Scooter, dazzle us with HOW MUCH we’ve spent on Afghanistan compared to Iraq!!!!! This should be FUNNY to see you PRETEND you didn’t say SUCH A PATENT LIE!!!

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded

    I would assume that the MISSION in afghanistan bieng screwed up by ALL the countries there surpasses that of IRAQ,,,,, can’t tell because the other countries don’t always say what they buck up,,,,

    BUT,,,, we have been there longer with less PROGRESS.
    And,,,, if your a good LIBTARD,,,, we created it tooo


  140. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Oh and scooter, if we can pull our troops out of Afghanistan and still track down Al Qaeda - SO BE IT! But you f*ckers seem to have FORGOTTEN what ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY ATTACKED US, in your MADNESS to avenge the Suicide Bombers in Israel! Guess we shouldn’t be surprised that virtually ALL of the NeoCon insiders are Jewish, should we scooter with his beanie?


  141. Master P Says:

    Why are we in Iraq?

    Comment by scootersmom — September 10, 2007 @ 3:09 am

    —-

    TO kill muslims.


  142. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    I would assume that the MISSION in afghanistan bieng screwed up by ALL the countries there surpasses that of IRAQ,,,,, can’t tell because the other countries don’t always say what they buck up,,,, Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:09 am

    Iraq - CIVIL WAR
    Afghanistan - NO CIVIL WAR

    Yeah, those are EXACTLY THE SAME - in BIZARRO WORLD!

    BUT,,,, we have been there longer with less PROGRESS.
    And,,,, if your a good LIBTARD,,,, we created it tooo
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:09 am

    Let see, SLOW progress, or COUNTRY IS WORSE OFF IN A CIVIL WAR? Yeah, those are EXACTLY THE SAME - NOT!!!


  143. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    TO kill muslims.
    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007 @ 3:11 am

    Spoken like a true religious based terrorist…


  144. Vesica Piscium Says:

    how long can we go at this rate before a draft is needed? What will happen if we bomb iran? what will that cost? How many planes? How many millions isn missiles?

    Your good at asking questions scooter but not at answering them, add all that stuff, think about the logistics.


  145. scooter Says:

    RETARD,,,, don’t look now buddy,,,, but in afghanistan,,,
    I think your actually defending the TROOPS and what we are trying to do there…. WOW…

    Now,,, lets see if we can get you to be as fair to the IRAQIS as well… ehhh


  146. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    Now answer MY question: Why are we in Iraq?
    Comment by scootersmom — September 10, 2007 @ 3:09 am

    Because republicans have LOW SELF ESTEEM and have trouble admitting THEY ARE WRONG. That’s why scooter is too cowardly to admit he LIED about the money we’ve spent on Afghanistan! LOW SELF ESTEEM - brought on from the closet, and other self loathing ‘issues’.


  147. scootersmom Says:

    HAHAHA! Good answer! Unless you’re serious… In that case, you’re one f*cked up motherf*cker


  148. Vesica Piscium Says:

    how much more will we have to borrow scooter?

    Well mr P thats not so easy.

    It has taken some 150,000 m156 rounds for each terrorist at about 35 cents a piece,


  149. Master P Says:

    I’m DEAD serious.

    GOD BLESS The UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!


  150. Vesica Piscium Says:

    TO kill muslims.

    Comment by Master P — September 10, 2007

    IBush says we are their to free them fron an oppressiev dictator and to give them democracy and rebuild their infratsructure, Are you calling the CIC a liar?


  151. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    RETARD,,,, don’t look now buddy,,,, but in afghanistan,,,
    I think your actually defending the TROOPS and what we are trying to do there…. WOW… Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:12 am

    Reality is ALWAYS difficult for you wingnuts to grasp, that’s why you’re willing to murder troops and civilians alike by putting them in places only to stroke your fragile bruised egos…

    Now,,, lets see if we can get you to be as fair to the IRAQIS as well… ehhh
    Comment by scooter — September 10, 2007 @ 3:12 am

    Fair? BAHAHA, what does a WINGNUT know about FAIRNESS? You’re a f*cking FOOL!!1 What’s FAIR is to get the f*ck out of their country so we stop being a lightning rod! The Iraqis hate the outsiders almost as much as they hate us - I bet you’d be shocked at how quickly the root them out once we’re gone! But you f*ckers are too cowardly to live in the REAL WORLD, your EGOS ARE TOO BRUISED and Israel is lobbying hard to get that Oil pipeline from Iraq!!!!


  152. scooter Says:

    Oh and scooter, if we can pull our troops out of Afghanistan and still track down Al Qaeda - SO BE IT! But you f*ckers seem to have FORGOTTEN what ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY ATTACKED US, in your MADNESS to avenge the Suicide Bombers in Israel! Guess we shouldn’t be surprised that virtually ALL of the NeoCon insiders are Jewish, should we scooter with his beanie?

    Comment by michaelIsRetarded

    RETARD,,,,, the evil JEWS have been leading us astray. HMMMMM somebody please tell STEVEN SPIELLBERG to make a movie on it….. maybe we can even get an all JEWISH cast to portray BUSH being snookered by the JEWS… I’m bettin LIB hollywood would love it,,,, (especially the JEWS)


  153. michaelIsRetarded Says:

    I’m DEAD serious.
    GOD BLESS