Comments on: Bush Flashback: ‘Setting A Date For Withdrawal Is Setting A Date For Failure’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:47:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: RyanF http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4074340 RyanF Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:09:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4074340 Failure can't occur on one day! Bush is right, we need to draw it out as long as possible. Failure can’t occur on one day! Bush is right, we need to draw it out as long as possible.

]]> By: USA#1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4074281 USA#1 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:28:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4074281 Would Somebody PLEASE Remind Monkey Boy That When Clinton Committed Troops to Bosnia - This is what Then Gov. G.W. Bush Said: "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." --Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) Funny thing is we won that war without a single AMERICAN killed in action! Would Somebody PLEASE Remind Monkey Boy That When Clinton Committed Troops to Bosnia – This is what Then Gov. G.W. Bush Said:

“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.” –Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

Funny thing is
we won that war without a single AMERICAN
killed in action!

]]> By: Why are Republicans destroying America? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4074116 Why are Republicans destroying America? Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:31:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4074116 Same old, same old. Everyone already knows Bush lies about everything. Tell us something we don't already know. Same old, same old. Everyone already knows Bush lies about everything. Tell us something we don’t already know.

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4073809 WC Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:24:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073809 <em>Comment by Robert M. — September 12, 2007 @ 6:43 pm</em> Ummm, yes, I am for real. You got a problem interpreting my posts? I'm on your side, dude. Comment by Robert M. — September 12, 2007 @ 6:43 pm

Ummm, yes, I am for real. You got a problem interpreting my posts? I’m on your side, dude.

]]> By: Robert M. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4073682 Robert M. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:43:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073682 God, WC are you for real? How about we grant the Iraqi's the right to work and rebuild their own sovereign country? Force Haliburton and Bechtel to get the hell out, along with the Blackwater security goons you and I are paying for, and much of the "terrorism" would stop tomorrow. (Sorry for the incorrect information. You and I aren't paying for Blackwater security guards for private corporations. Your children and my children will be forced to pay the bill, 'cause bush has borrowed every last dime spent in Iraq from the Chinese. That's why Congress is raising the limit on the national debt to $10 trillion.) God, WC are you for real?

How about we grant the Iraqi’s the right to work and rebuild their own sovereign country? Force Haliburton and Bechtel to get the hell out, along with the Blackwater security goons you and I are paying for, and much of the “terrorism” would stop tomorrow.

(Sorry for the incorrect information. You and I aren’t paying for Blackwater security guards for private corporations. Your children and my children will be forced to pay the bill, ’cause bush has borrowed every last dime spent in Iraq from the Chinese. That’s why Congress is raising the limit on the national debt to $10 trillion.)

]]> By: Robert M. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4073675 Robert M. Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:38:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073675 duh! Allowing a bush to do anything is tantamount to begging for failure. duh!

Allowing a bush to do anything is tantamount to begging for failure.

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4073648 WC Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:27:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073648 <em>Leaving quickly or slowly is still deserting the Iraqi people. Are you ok with handing the Iraqi people over to the extremists and terrorists? Seems like we should make sure we leave after they are able to fully support themselves against such evils. Comment by Roger_Roger — September 12, 2007 @ 4:44 pm</em> It certainly didn't bother Bush, Powell, or Bremer to "abandon" the Iraqis when all three of them said we'd leave Iraq if the Iraqis asked us to. Not a damn concern for the security of the Middle East. Not a damn concern for terrorists taking over Iraq. "We wouldn't stay where we aren't wanted" we were told. But if the Dems or a war protester ask Bush to bring the troops home? Oh, hell no. Leaving quickly or slowly is still deserting the Iraqi people. Are you ok with handing the Iraqi people over to the extremists and terrorists? Seems like we should make sure we leave after they are able to fully support themselves against such evils.

Comment by Roger_Roger — September 12, 2007 @ 4:44 pm

It certainly didn’t bother Bush, Powell, or Bremer to “abandon” the Iraqis when all three of them said we’d leave Iraq if the Iraqis asked us to. Not a damn concern for the security of the Middle East. Not a damn concern for terrorists taking over Iraq. “We wouldn’t stay where we aren’t wanted” we were told.

But if the Dems or a war protester ask Bush to bring the troops home?

Oh, hell no.

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-3/#comment-4073627 WC Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:20:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073627 <em>However, what Bush specifically warned about in the past was only against setting a definitive withdrawal date–which is what the treason-minded Democrats are lusting after in Congress. Comment by TPisasbadasDailyKosinHatred — September 12, 2007 @ 3:13 pm</em> If the troops are to come home at all, whether it's all of them or, say, 80% of them, then at some point you are going to have a "definitive withdrawal date" even if it is secretly planned for 6 months and then announced publicly a month before they actually start leaving. It certainly didn't bother Bush to announce to all the world a specific time to invade Iraq if Saddam didn't comply with his demands, allowing the enemy plenty of time to prepare for the invaders. If the Dems happened to say, for example, they want to bring home 50,000 troops in January 2008, Bush would blast them for wanting to "cut and run" and label them terrorist lovers, and you know that he would. Yet there is no difference whatsoever in these two scenarios, other than the fact that it is Bush who is making the decision and taking all the credit. However, what Bush specifically warned about in the past was only against setting a definitive withdrawal date–which is what the treason-minded Democrats are lusting after in Congress.

Comment by TPisasbadasDailyKosinHatred — September 12, 2007 @ 3:13 pm

If the troops are to come home at all, whether it’s all of them or, say, 80% of them, then at some point you are going to have a “definitive withdrawal date” even if it is secretly planned for 6 months and then announced publicly a month before they actually start leaving.

It certainly didn’t bother Bush to announce to all the world a specific time to invade Iraq if Saddam didn’t comply with his demands, allowing the enemy plenty of time to prepare for the invaders.

If the Dems happened to say, for example, they want to bring home 50,000 troops in January 2008, Bush would blast them for wanting to “cut and run” and label them terrorist lovers, and you know that he would. Yet there is no difference whatsoever in these two scenarios, other than the fact that it is Bush who is making the decision and taking all the credit.

]]> By: Daniel http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073600 Daniel Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:10:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073600 Oh, come on. It's not a "date for withdrawal" if everyone knows it's just bullshit. Oh, come on. It’s not a “date for withdrawal” if everyone knows it’s just bullshit.

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073494 Keith Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:16:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073494 Some say the government isn't functioning and the security forces aren't functioning because they don't want to be seen as collaborating with the foreign occupiers. Would you? Some say the government isn’t functioning and the security forces aren’t functioning because they don’t want to be seen as collaborating with the foreign occupiers. Would you?

]]> By: toasterhead http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073481 toasterhead Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:13:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073481 <i>#59 Leaving quickly or slowly is still deserting the Iraqi people. Are you ok with handing the Iraqi people over to the extremists and terrorists? Seems like we should make sure we leave after they are able to fully support themselves against such evils. Comment by Roger_Roger — September 12, 2007 @ 4:44 pm</i> We're not exactly saving them from the "extremists and terrorists" as it is. In fact we're ARMING some groups of extremists and terrorists to fight other groups of extremists and terrorists. As long as we're a crutch to lean on, the Iraqi security forces have no incentive to truly get their act together, and the competing militias have a reason to keep jockeying for position. #59 Leaving quickly or slowly is still deserting the Iraqi people. Are you ok with handing the Iraqi people over to the extremists and terrorists? Seems like we should make sure we leave after they are able to fully support themselves against such evils.

Comment by Roger_Roger — September 12, 2007 @ 4:44 pm

We’re not exactly saving them from the “extremists and terrorists” as it is. In fact we’re ARMING some groups of extremists and terrorists to fight other groups of extremists and terrorists. As long as we’re a crutch to lean on, the Iraqi security forces have no incentive to truly get their act together, and the competing militias have a reason to keep jockeying for position.

]]> By: Keith http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073479 Keith Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:12:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073479 President Ford withdrew from Vietnam based on the timeline that Nixon and Kissinger negotiated with the enemy because it was better than the alternative. And they did not follow us home---unless you count all the Vietnamese in the shopping malls of Orange County. If we went to bring them democracy and 79% want us out, then we gotta leave. If we really went to control the oil, then we have to come up with a very altruistic reason why we must stay. President Ford withdrew from Vietnam based on the timeline that Nixon and Kissinger negotiated with the enemy because it was better than the alternative. And they did not follow us home—unless you count all the Vietnamese in the shopping malls of Orange County.

If we went to bring them democracy and 79% want us out, then we gotta leave. If we really went to control the oil, then we have to come up with a very altruistic reason why we must stay.

]]> By: François http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073459 François Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:00:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073459 keep it up hughey! And I'm not a conservative. You're wrong. As usual. But keep trying, maybe you'll say something semi-intelligent one of these days. Um, I do like the 'bushlicker' part, however that has nothing to do with the president... keep it up hughey! And I’m not a conservative. You’re wrong. As usual. But keep trying, maybe you’ll say something semi-intelligent one of these days. Um, I do like the ‘bushlicker’ part, however that has nothing to do with the president…

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073457 hellinabucket Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:00:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073457 The first political group to focus on political and economic "benchmarks" for Iraq will have the upper hand. Currently, I've heard more from the democrats than the republicans on these fronts. The party that can best present the focus on these will have a big advantage. The first political group to focus on political and economic “benchmarks” for Iraq will have the upper hand. Currently, I’ve heard more from the democrats than the republicans on these fronts. The party that can best present the focus on these will have a big advantage.

]]> By: Tess Adams http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073425 Tess Adams Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:52:42 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073425 The media hates the left, not America. It kind of sucks when a majority of the mass communication industry is owned by the right wing neo-cons. www.beforeyougopostal.com/Slugg/ The media hates the left, not America. It kind of sucks when a majority of the mass communication industry is owned by the right wing neo-cons.

http://www.beforeyougopostal.com/Slugg/

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073421 hellinabucket Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:51:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073421 Roger Roger. Couldn't it be possible that we could lessen our military footprint and expand an economic and political footprint? Roger Roger. Couldn’t it be possible that we could lessen our military footprint and expand an economic and political footprint?

]]> By: François http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073416 François Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:50:28 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073416 Hahah, see?! You're great! Keep it up! Make those liberals look like idiots! Hahah, see?! You’re great! Keep it up! Make those liberals look like idiots!

]]> By: hellinabucket http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073415 hellinabucket Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:49:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073415 Comment by Hillary Whacked Vince — September 12, 2007 @ 4:37 pm Could you provide me with some verifiable evidence on America hating the left? Could you also provide some factual evidence that Bush is not being contradictory in the subject matter of this thread? I'd hate to come to realize that I've been on the wrong side. Could you do those things for me please? Who knows we might become buddies. Comment by Hillary Whacked Vince — September 12, 2007 @ 4:37 pm

Could you provide me with some verifiable evidence on America hating the left?

Could you also provide some factual evidence that Bush is not being contradictory in the subject matter of this thread?

I’d hate to come to realize that I’ve been on the wrong side.

Could you do those things for me please? Who knows we might become buddies.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073410 Marie Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:47:48 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073410 Check out Comedy Central. The video last night of Jon Stewart interviewing John Hodges on success. It is hysterical. And very true. Check out Comedy Central. The video last night of Jon Stewart interviewing John Hodges on success. It is hysterical. And very true.

]]> By: François http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4073409 François Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:46:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/bush-withdrawal-2/#comment-4073409 hughjazz, you're so self-important it's funny. And sad if you're for real. I don't think you're real anymore. Your posts are so absurd you simply can't be. I've seen your kind before and I think it's funny. Posting outrageous views, in your case extreme left views, to make real liberals look bad in comparison. Well played madame. hughjazz, you’re so self-important it’s funny. And sad if you’re for real. I don’t think you’re real anymore. Your posts are so absurd you simply can’t be. I’ve seen your kind before and I think it’s funny. Posting outrageous views, in your case extreme left views, to make real liberals look bad in comparison. Well played madame.

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