Comments on: CBS Defends Katie Couric’s Iraq ‘Puff Pieces’: Bloggers Are ‘Not Intelligent’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:20:53 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: MoveOnMember http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4077852 MoveOnMember Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:08:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4077852 The e-mail is not a fake. I should know -- I'm the one that received it. I would be happy to provide the complete e-mail exchange so you can examine the e-mail headers yourself. I noticed the odd time-stamps as well. At first I thought it was just due to the difference in time zones (I am in CST) but then realized that didn't make sense. My best guess is that some server has its time configured wrong. This wouldn't be the first time I have received an e-mail reply with a time-date stamp that is earlier than the original e-mail. The e-mail is not a fake. I should know — I’m the one that received it. I would be happy to provide the complete e-mail exchange so you can examine the e-mail headers yourself.

I noticed the odd time-stamps as well. At first I thought it was just due to the difference in time zones (I am in CST) but then realized that didn’t make sense.

My best guess is that some server has its time configured wrong. This wouldn’t be the first time I have received an e-mail reply with a time-date stamp that is earlier than the original e-mail.

]]> By: Luis APJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4074875 Luis APJ Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:13:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4074875 Funny that the puff piece is only from the first days and not the last days during her time in the middle east...So what...Move On only consternated on Iraq and not the whole piece for criticism Also intelligent people would be working and have no time for internet and/or tv...*waits* Funny that the puff piece is only from the first days and not the last days during her time in the middle east…So what…Move On only consternated on Iraq and not the whole piece for criticism

Also intelligent people would be working and have no time for internet and/or tv…*waits*

]]> By: Sean McGee http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4074390 Sean McGee Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:29:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4074390 I still think it's fake. CBS is a pretty big company. I'm pretty sure they've heard of "Customer Service". I find it hard to believe that a large corporation would allow a response to be sent in that fashion. <strong>Ellipses</strong> and everything. As to the timestamps...there is something fishy there. CBS Evening News is filmed in New York. Logically, the response would have come from New York. For the response to have been e-mailed at 11:45 AM Eastern from New York, the original e-mail would have to be e-mailed before that time. Now, unless the Move On member lives somewhere in the wilds of Canada or in South America, the e-mail is probably fake. 11:45 AM Eastern time is 10:45 Central, 9:45 Mountain, and 8:45 Pacific. Did CBS have a premonition and send the response hours before the Move On member's email was sent? I don't think so. Katie Couric is an idiot, I'll grant you that, but that e-mail is a fake. I still think it’s fake. CBS is a pretty big company. I’m pretty sure they’ve heard of “Customer Service”.

I find it hard to believe that a large corporation would allow a response to be sent in that fashion. Ellipses and everything.

As to the timestamps…there is something fishy there.

CBS Evening News is filmed in New York. Logically, the response would have come from New York.

For the response to have been e-mailed at 11:45 AM Eastern from New York, the original e-mail would have to be e-mailed before that time. Now, unless the Move On member lives somewhere in the wilds of Canada or in South America, the e-mail is probably fake. 11:45 AM Eastern time is 10:45 Central, 9:45 Mountain, and 8:45 Pacific.

Did CBS have a premonition and send the response hours before the Move On member’s email was sent? I don’t think so.

Katie Couric is an idiot, I’ll grant you that, but that e-mail is a fake.

]]> By: Dr. Richard Welser http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4073798 Dr. Richard Welser Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:08:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073798 It was interesting to note the comment about intelligence. CBS, of course, has no clue. I guess that says it all. forensic neuropsychologist It was interesting to note the comment about intelligence. CBS, of course, has no clue. I guess that says it all.

forensic neuropsychologist

]]> By: barkleyg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4073797 barkleyg Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:08:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073797 #113 The time stamps are different for different time zones. Let me explain it like <strong>King George's flunkies explain things to him: "even a 5 year old can understand it"! That was an old Georgeie boy joke about why he always talks to his pathological base athough they were 5 years old.</strong> Back to the explanation. I live on the west coast. When I send an e-mail back east at 8:00pm pst, the recipient on the east coast gets the e-mail at !!:00 est. Same exact moment, different times because of time zones. Hope that answers your question. <strong>The only thing fishy is that even a 10 year old can figure that out!!</strong> #113 The time stamps are different for different time zones.

Let me explain it like King George’s flunkies explain things to him: “even a 5 year old can understand it”! That was an old Georgeie boy joke about why he always talks to his pathological base athough they were 5 years old.

Back to the explanation. I live on the west coast. When I send an e-mail back east at 8:00pm pst, the recipient on the east coast gets the e-mail at !!:00 est. Same exact moment, different times because of time zones.
Hope that answers your question. The only thing fishy is that even a 10 year old can figure that out!!

]]> By: Peet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4073767 Peet Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:46:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073767 Scrolling through the thread, I kinda lost track of who was liberal and who was conservative. I just saw a bunch of gradeschoolers yelling nyah-nyah-nyah at each other. What on earth does that do for you guys? Just break out the slingshots, TP each other's houses, and get it over with. Scrolling through the thread, I kinda lost track of who was liberal and who was conservative. I just saw a bunch of gradeschoolers yelling nyah-nyah-nyah at each other. What on earth does that do for you guys? Just break out the slingshots, TP each other’s houses, and get it over with.

]]> By: aeskylos http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4073764 aeskylos Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:45:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073764 Wasn't Miss Couric almost out of a job a month ago because of her vanishing viewers? Never in the history of TV newsreporting have I encountered such a vapid woman reporter. Katie should take lessons from a real journalist- Katie Pilgrim of CNN. Wasn’t Miss Couric almost out of a job a month ago because of her vanishing viewers? Never in the history of TV newsreporting have I encountered such a vapid woman reporter. Katie should take lessons from a real journalist- Katie Pilgrim of CNN.

]]> By: N http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4073760 N Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:42:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073760 The timestamps don't line up on those emails that are pictured. The email from the MoveOn member shows it was sent after CBS's reply. Which doesn't make sense. There is something fishy here. Just look at the time and date. The timestamps don’t line up on those emails that are pictured. The email from the MoveOn member shows it was sent after CBS’s reply. Which doesn’t make sense. There is something fishy here. Just look at the time and date.

]]> By: pbg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4073748 pbg Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:34:19 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073748 If Katie hadn't been there before, how could she talk about things 'improving'? If Katie hadn’t been there before, how could she talk about things ‘improving’?

]]> By: sisyphus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-3/#comment-4073589 sisyphus Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:06:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073589 A high school girl could do better. She's a bubble head and no more a journalist than I am an astronaut. Everything she reads has been written for her by bubble heads only slightly brighter than she. A high school girl could do better.
She’s a bubble head and no more a journalist than I am an astronaut.
Everything she reads has been written for her by bubble heads only slightly brighter than she.

]]> By: dono http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073444 dono Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:55:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073444 # “most intelligent people” Funny, I would think that ‘most intelligent people’ could formulate a response in complete sentences. Instead….. there is a lot of…… period marks….. rather than using periods for the purpose of……..breaking up individual………..sentences. CBS could use a few more people with actual intelligence who can at the very least, compose a thorough reply to the MoveOn member’s email. Comment by kelso — September 12, 2007 @ 12:40 pm <strong>It's called an 'ellipsis.'</strong> But then you did not know that did you... #

“most intelligent people”

Funny, I would think that ‘most intelligent people’ could formulate a response in complete sentences.

Instead….. there is a lot of…… period marks….. rather than using periods for the purpose of……..breaking up individual………..sentences.

CBS could use a few more people with actual intelligence who can at the very least, compose a thorough reply to the MoveOn member’s email.

Comment by kelso — September 12, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

It’s called an ‘ellipsis.’ But then you did not know that did you…

]]> By: USMC6002 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073397 USMC6002 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:43:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073397 Absolutely true. Liberal bloggers are very, very stupid people. I would have to inflate their grades just to pass them. Comment by Dean CT — September 12, 2007 @ 12:21 pm Like your hero? The idiot in the White House. Cons are sinister, greedy closet gays who get off on seeing people suffer. Absolutely true. Liberal bloggers are very, very stupid people. I would have to inflate their grades just to pass them.

Comment by Dean CT — September 12, 2007 @ 12:21 pm

Like your hero? The idiot in the White House.

Cons are sinister, greedy closet gays who get off on seeing people suffer.

]]> By: Leftside Annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073327 Leftside Annie Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:23:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073327 Jebus. Being Right Wing Authoritarian followers must keep millions of trolls employed defending their Dear Leader. Tiresome. Oh so very tiresome. Jebus. Being Right Wing Authoritarian followers must keep millions of trolls employed defending their Dear Leader.

Tiresome. Oh so very tiresome.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073285 BARTLEBEE Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:09:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073285 The good news is that Katy will be applying for a job on "The View" within a year. The good news is that Katy will be applying for a job on “The View” within a year.

]]> By: eLad in MO http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073275 eLad in MO Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:06:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073275 TP's reputation is on the line, regarding the validity of the MoveOn email and response from CBS. One would have to assume this was vetted before being posted here. I can atest to the fact that TP takes their credibility more serious than simply allowing a rogue TP poster to run amuck. TP’s reputation is on the line, regarding the validity of the MoveOn email and response from CBS. One would have to assume this was vetted before being posted here. I can atest to the fact that TP takes their credibility more serious than simply allowing a rogue TP poster to run amuck.

]]> By: barkleyg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073237 barkleyg Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:53:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073237 Without even looking at the ratings, it is safe to say that less than 1/3 of intelligent people watch CBS NEWS as their nightly news program. Without even looking at the ratings, it is safe to say that less than 1/3 of intelligent people watch CBS NEWS as their nightly news program.

]]> By: barkleyg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073232 barkleyg Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:51:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073232 Without even looking at the ratings, <strong>it is safe to say that less than 1/3 of intelligent people choose CBS NEWS as their choice for News</strong>. Without even looking at the ratings, it is safe to say that less than 1/3 of intelligent people choose CBS NEWS as their choice for News.

]]> By: barkleyg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073225 barkleyg Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:47:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073225 According to the almighty ratings, it turns out <strong>MORE intelligent people watch the other networks news shows</strong> than watch Katie. So, according to that e-mail, when intelligent people have a choice of network news, <strong>CBS has the fewest intelligent people watching them. </strong> Another way to look at it, <strong>many more intelligent people would rather watch ABC or NBC, than CBS. </strong>I know I would brag about that(NOT(!! According to the almighty ratings, it turns out MORE intelligent people watch the other networks news shows than watch Katie. So, according to that e-mail, when intelligent people have a choice of network news, CBS has the fewest intelligent people watching them.

Another way to look at it, many more intelligent people would rather watch ABC or NBC, than CBS. I know I would brag about that(NOT(!!

]]> By: Sean McGee http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073206 Sean McGee Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:35:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073206 That letter could be fake. Where's the complete headers showing the server the e-mail came from? It's easy to spoof an e-mail. In fact, I'm thinking about doing that myself...maybe I'll get a bunch of pageviews off of it! That letter could be fake.

Where’s the complete headers showing the server the e-mail came from?

It’s easy to spoof an e-mail.

In fact, I’m thinking about doing that myself…maybe I’ll get a bunch of pageviews off of it!

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/comment-page-2/#comment-4073105 WC Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:54:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/12/couric-email/#comment-4073105 Was listening to Paul Harvey on the radio at noon. He mentioned Couric's ratings and said that his radio show trumped CBS's ratings. Heh. Was listening to Paul Harvey on the radio at noon. He mentioned Couric’s ratings and said that his radio show trumped CBS’s ratings. Heh.

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