Global warming may be like ‘nuclear war.’
By on Sep 12th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Global warming may be like ‘nuclear war.’
A new study from the International Institute for Strategic Studies said climate change “could have global security implications on a par with nuclear war unless urgent action is taken.” The report said “global warming would hit crop yields and water availability everywhere, causing great human suffering and leading to regional strife,” adding that “65 countries were likely to lose over 15 percent of their agricultural output by 2100.”
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No wonder the wingnuts are for it.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:36 pmYou’ll be PRAYING for global warming come winter time!!!
September 12th, 2007 at 1:38 pmWell nuclear war would throw particles into the air, causing ‘Nuclear Winter’ so I’m going to go ahead and call BS that global warming may be like nuclear war.
In fact, I say we should re-start above ground testing to throw up more particles into the air, to reflect sun-light and combat global warming.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:39 pmThe few nukes we have to use against Iran should do the trick ; )
September 12th, 2007 at 1:41 pmsquegeeboo sez:
You’re missing the point, squegee. The study only claims global warming could be comparable with nuclear war in respects to global security implications, not in their particular mechanisms of action.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:42 pmAll this tells me is nuclear war wouldn’t be all that big a deal. Increase temps a few deg. over 100 years. I thought nuclear war would have a little bigger impact.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:44 pmGlobal Warming? What a laugh! We compassionate conservative, moral majority types in America will still be able to drive our SUVs to worship our savior, Lord Jesus Christ. Pity those poor people in other countries aren’t more Christian; maybe they could have been saved.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:44 pmTripMaster Monkey
You’re missing the point, squegee. The study only claims global warming could be comparable with nuclear war in respects to global security implications, not in their particular mechanisms of action.
Me miss the point? That unpossible.
I just like to tout my solution to global warming.
Jake D.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pmThe few nukes we have to use against Iran should do the trick ; )
Nothing like starting another war while we’re still in one, when you don’t have to. Lets stretch our resources even further! Instead you can use the tests as a way to remind people what we’re capable of doing, and then remind them that Bush is still in office for another year, and is dumb enough to think its a good idea. It could help our bargaining position.
Except for the explosions, and sudden loss of life, they are similar. I think the point to this, is the overall effects of loss of cropland, and living space would be similar.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pmIn fact, I say we should re-start above ground testing to throw up more particles into the air, to reflect sun-light and combat global warming.
Comment by squegeeboo — September 12, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
Good idea….a good place to start would be either Tijuana or Lichtenstein. Both are pretty much useless to the rest of the world.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pmsquegeeboo sez:
Oh, yes…by all means. Let’s try to combat a problem that is comprised of thousands of variables we only incompletely understand by injecting even more random variables into the equation.
I can never tell when you’re being facetious, squegee. Perhaps you should start using the <snark> and </snark> tags, to avoid potential misunderstandings.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pmSquegeeboo should take a moment to read the story before commenting on it. It might help her/him appear less reflexively moronic.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pmHow can we worry about something that a handfull of industry scientists have said isn’t caused by human activity? After all, these ’scientific’ opinions were purchased with good, clean, fascist, right-wing dollars. Of course, the 100’s (or 1000’s) of scientists that contradict these opinions just don’t know squat.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:48 pm—–
FFS, not the Global Warming myth again.
Is there anywhere you can go on this planet to escape Propaganda?
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September 12th, 2007 at 1:49 pmBut if we do something about Global Warming it will eat into my stock profits and I am all about the here and now. Heck, I won’t be alive in 2100, so who cares. It’s not like I care if all those poor brown people starve and the world goes into chaos or anything, geez, it’s about MY MONEY right now.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:50 pmOh and thanks GW, my war porfits are doing great.
Many folks seem to be forgetting that we have probably already passed the peak of oil production. So, in twenty, thirty or forty years all the problems caused by our burning up the oil and gasoline will become moot, since there will be nothing left to burn but coal. It’ll be back to steam engines, then folks… Ever try to cram some lumps of coal into your gas tank? There may be another Ice Age just around the corner to boot, anyway…
Just do a search for “peak oil” on http://www.clusty.com or your favorite search engine…
Cheers.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:50 pmJust imagine what kind of immigration problems there will be. If GWB doesn’t start WWIII in teh ME, it will come soon enough over water and food.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:50 pmThere’s no such thing as science by consensuses
September 12th, 2007 at 1:51 pmComment by steven j. williams — September 12, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Let’s see you prove the ‘myth’ bit there, skippy. I’ll not quote Al Gore and you keep Junkscience.com out of your answer….
September 12th, 2007 at 1:51 pmWill this belief be created into a movie by Al Gump Gore? Let me guess, Michael “Pillsbury Doughboy” Moore will be the Co-director for the strife portion of the movie (healthcare).
September 12th, 2007 at 1:52 pmTripMaster Monkey
I can never tell when you’re being facetious, squegee. Perhaps you should start using the and tags, to avoid potential misunderstandings.
It’s a fine line to walk on, but if I do the snark, or the sarcasm tags, or something similar, I wouldn’t be able to pull in the occasional person with it.
Arthur C.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:52 pmSquegeeboo should take a moment to read the story before commenting on it. It might help her/him appear less reflexively moronic.
It’s gonna take a lot more than reading comprehension for that. By the way, I loved ‘Cradle’ I thought it was your best work.
This was probably a bad idea to compare it to nuclear war. It’s clear that global warming is a huge problem, but idiots like sean hannity, who apparently can’t comprehend the concept, will take this and, just as squegeeboo demonstrated above, will call BS and make a spectacle of it.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:53 pmSounds like some people’s Psychological Defense Mechanisms are firmly in place!
“What are psychological defense mechanisms?
They are psychological strategies used individuals (and by extension–groups of indidivuals and even entire nations at times) to cope with reality and to maintain his/her self -image intact.”
“Level 1 defense mechanisms:
Denial - a refusal to accept external reality because it is too threatening. There are examples of denial being adaptive (for example, it might be adaptive for a person who is dying to have some denial).
Distortion - a gross reshaping of external reality to meet internal needs.
Delusional Projection - frank delusions about external reality, usually of a persecutory nature.”
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/ 2004/ 08/ psychiatry-101-defense-mechanisms.html
September 12th, 2007 at 1:53 pmNuking Iran, what a brilliant idea.
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070912/ ap_on_bi_ge/ oil_prices;_ylt=AqzKzdtGiUNE589c60cqsFis0NUE
Wonder where the price for crude would go next?
September 12th, 2007 at 1:53 pmHow dare you people even question for one moment the laws of global warming and works of the worlds greatest scientist Al Goreilla. This is treasonous. You should be incarcerated for even thinking otherwise.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:53 pmWait, don’t tell me! It’ll be good for crop prices!
September 12th, 2007 at 1:54 pmLuckily, we’ve already funded the construction of a wall at the southern border (which will be ironic if something like “Day After Tomorrow” happens), and we still have the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans to cut down on any serious immigration problems.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:54 pmFor the record, if we could take over Iran like we did after nuking Japan, oil prices could tumble.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:56 pmComment by Billy Hill — September 12, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Even though you are sillier your brother Benny was funnier.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:57 pmDaryll sez:
Even if we accept your premise that this is a “belief”, Daryll, I’m not really sure you have any standing to criticize another’s beliefs. Rocks and glass houses and all that…
September 12th, 2007 at 1:57 pmRecent data shows that the effects of green house gases have actually been mitigated by the particulates in pollution resulting in Global Dimming
September 12th, 2007 at 1:59 pmThe breeders are killing us. Global warming, lack of fresh water, pollution, and the destruction of the rain forests, coral reefs, and the arctic wouldn’t be such a big issue if we had far fewer people. Instead, people feel they can have as many kids as they want even though we have a finite planet with finite resources. I’m not advocating forced sterilization at this point, but I think we need leadership in the Presidency in warning not only our own nation but the world that we need to reverse the population numbers and people simply have to start having fewer children. Unfortunately, anyone looking to leadership from Bush on any issue would have a better chance of turning a piece of shit into gold.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:59 pmJake D. sez:
For the record, Shakey, you’re dead wrong.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:00 pmFor the record, if we could take over Iran like we did after nuking Japan, oil prices could tumble.
Comment by Jake D. — September 12, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
The definition of insanity is supposedly doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result……
September 12th, 2007 at 2:01 pmFor the record, if we could take over Iran like we did after nuking Japan, oil prices could tumble.
Comment by Jake D. — September 12, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
We have done such a bang up job in Iraq. I am sure Iran would be a cakewalk.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:01 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss my alternatives to OPEC, please let me know.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:01 pmYea, when the ragheads hit DC you VERY FUNNY leftist are going to have shit all over your faces; but then a shitty face liberal looks no different than a raghead. Then what are all these poor, underprivileged folks without health insurance and welfare going to do? Won’t matter then will it? Maybe the ragheads will have pity and slit your throat really fast or stick a grenade up your great sphincter, YO!!!!
September 12th, 2007 at 2:02 pmWe win every time a terrorist DIES!
September 12th, 2007 at 2:02 pmwe need to reverse the population numbers
Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — September 12, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
Just enough of me, too much of you.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:02 pmJake D. sez:
I accept your surrender.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:03 pmKilling 40+ million unborn babies wasn’t enough?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:03 pmFrançois
just as squegeeboo demonstrated above, will call BS and make a spectacle of it.
Maybe the meaning of my life is to serve as a warning to others?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:04 pmits a pity no one understands that when the climate warms on the scale that it is now, that it will also cool more dramatically, plunging us into a another event like the ice age but not as large.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:04 pmComment by Hussein OBob — September 12, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
At least take the time to type in a new rant. Copy and past of your bigotry from one thread to another, from day to day isn’t very creative.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:05 pmhttp://www.earthtimes.org/ articles/ show/ news_press_release,176495.shtml
September 12th, 2007 at 2:05 pmStop using the term ‘ragheads’ you ignorant yokel.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:06 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss my alternatives to OPEC, please let me know.
Comment by Jake D. — September 12, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, my a** just fell off.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:09 pmThere’s no such thing as science by consensuses
Comment by r — September 12, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
True - it’s so much better to have science by the lunatics on the fringe. Cunsensus is overrated! How dare those scientists all come to the same conclusion in their research!
This was probably a bad idea to compare it to nuclear war. It’s clear that global warming is a huge problem, but idiots like sean hannity, who apparently can’t comprehend the concept, will take this and, just as squegeeboo demonstrated above, will call BS and make a spectacle of it.
Comment by François — September 12, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Agreed. It’s really not a very valid comparison. Nuclear war will have devastating instantaneous effects over a large area. Climate change will have (and already is having) extremely gradual effects over an even larger area. Refugees will be created in decades, not seconds.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:09 pmI’m not advocating forced sterilization at this point, but I think we need leadership in the Presidency in warning not only our own nation but the world that we need to reverse the population numbers and people simply have to start having fewer children.
Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver — September 12, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
Reverend Beaver you need to take your traveling salvation show to the Rooskies, they just had “national booger day” over there.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:10 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss my alternatives to OPEC, please let me know. - Comment by Jake D. Fake
Why in the world would anyone here want to discuss jacksh!t with a known liar Jake D Fake? Cripes we ignore your posts as much as possible, as$wipe.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:11 pmIsn’t it The International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) not the International Institute for Security Studies?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:12 pmits a pity no one understands that when the climate warms on the scale that it is now, that it will also cool more dramatically, plunging us into a another event like the ice age but not as large.
Comment by secularprogressiveboy — September 12, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
This is because we’ve let the term “global warming” become too much of a catchphrase.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:12 pmRoger Rabbit trots out the old “Sun’s radiance” theory, which was soundly debunked here…. http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 2/ hi/ science/ nature/ 6290228.stm
Hey Rog, how’s that gas price?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:12 pm“…discuss my alternatives to OPEC, please let me know.”
Comment by Jake D.
Preparation H
September 12th, 2007 at 2:13 pmMaybe the meaning of my life is to serve as a warning to others?
Comment by squegeeboo — September 12, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
http://despair.com/mis24×30prin.html
September 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pmStarve-A-Bush - but the big problem is that mostly the people with low intelligence are the ones breeding.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pmMmmmm, does this mean that Jake D Fake and Hill Billy came from large families? Makes you wonder.
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For the record, if we could take over Iran like we did after nuking Japan, oil prices could tumble.
Comment by Jake D. — September 12, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
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Kind of like the price of oil dropped so much after our invasion of Iraq. And I’m sure the oil in Iran would pay for the reconstruction. You seem to have it nailed….NOT!
September 12th, 2007 at 2:15 pmThat’s pretty funny, Terry the Turtle
September 12th, 2007 at 2:17 pmLOL
Nuclear war might be their answer to Global Warming. Set off enough bombs and the resulting nuclear winter will cancel out the accelerating warming. Everybody wins! Except everybody–who are all now ash. The rats and cockroaches inherit the oil. Osama stumbles out of his cave to see that nothing is left except Dick Cheney– kinda like an episode of the Twilight Zone.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:17 pmComment by Roger_Roger — September 12, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
Oh, gee - thanks for that think-tank press release. That’s some fair-and-balanced information right there. While you’re at it, please be sure to cite The Great Global Warming Swindle as a source - I’m well below my recommended daily value of bullmierda today.
And more to the point - just because scientists may disagree on the specifics of climate change doesn’t mean that they don’t agree with the consensus.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:18 pmTerrytheTurtle
Nice. I was thinking of those posters when I put my comment up.
Anyways, Global Warming is just a smoke screen.
A smoke screen that Al Gore created to hide #1 thread to humans. At least Bush is trying to fight it.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:22 pm“How dare you people even question for one moment the laws of global warming and works of the worlds greatest scientist Al Goreilla. This is treasonous. You should be incarcerated for even thinking otherwise.
Comment by Billy Hill”
Hey billy, don’t forget about Al’s BBF Rupert Murdoch:
http://money.cnn.com/ 2007/ 08/ 14/ news/ companies/ pluggedin_gunther_murdoch.fortune/
Rupert believes in Al, even if halfwity, O’Lielly, and horseface hume don’t.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:22 pmThe rats and cockroaches inherit the oil. Osama stumbles out of his cave to see that nothing is left except Dick Cheney– kinda like an episode of the Twilight Zone.
Comment by Menehune — September 12, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
Actually, they wouldn’t inherit the oil. In The World Without Us, Alan Wiesman writes that rats and cockroaches would be two of the first species to die off if there were no humans providing them with heated urban dwellings in the winter. I was quite surprised by this!
September 12th, 2007 at 2:23 pmKilling 40+ million unborn babies wasn’t enough?
Comment by Jake D
You just masturbated, right?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:23 pmAnd more to the point - just because scientists may disagree on the specifics of climate change doesn’t mean that they don’t agree with the consensus.
Comment by toasterhead — September 12, 2007 @ 2:18 pm
Flat earth was a consensus at one time.
Just sayin’
September 12th, 2007 at 2:24 pmA smoke screen that Al Gore created to hide #1 thread to humans. At least Bush is trying to fight it.
Comment by squegeeboo
explain how rupert is a putting out the same smoke screen. (see link in post 62)
September 12th, 2007 at 2:25 pmAmerican Cyanamid, American Meat Institute, Amoco, Anheuser-Busch, Archer Daniels Midland, Boise Cascade, Chevron, Ciba-Geigy, Coors, Dow Chemical, DuPont, Exxon, Ford Motor Co., General Mills, General Motors, Kraft General Foods, National Agricultural Chemicals Association, NutraSweet Co. (Monsanto), Shell Oil, Union Carbide Corp., Uniroyal Chemical Co., USX Corp, and the like have spent millions, not on research, but propaganda to spin global warming and other science that encroachs on their bottom lines away. How can we ever repay them?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:25 pmToasterhead…there is no disagreement about Climate Change.
Well, maybe just in the countries where a cheerleader is elected twice.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:26 pmHow can we ever repay them?
Comment by Doc Rock — September 12, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
By buying their products - as everybody does.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:28 pmFlat earth was a consensus at one time.
Just sayin’
Comment by r — September 12, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
Yes, until better scientists and mathematicians came along and proved that this was false. (Only in Europe, btw - Eastern scientists knew it was round long before the West did.)
Science is a constant quest for improvement - better data, better models, a more complete picture. And with climate change, as the models and data have improved, they have for the most part added to the consensus, not refuted it.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:28 pmIn the sense that millions of people will be displaced, droughts and diseases will hunt that region, I agree. In general, I think it is a very bad comparison.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:29 pmRead about global dimming (Google it). There are already particles in the air and it’s not a positive thing. Food shortages, severe droughts, and starvation are in the waiting.
But people who don’t believe in global warming (or global dimming) will say, “Screw it! It won’t happen to me! And I don’t give a crap about my kids or grandkids either!”
Thirty years…that’s a projection for severe drought due to global dimming (which explains the fluctuation in weather - where some places are colder and others warmer).
Pay attention to the studies done during the 9/11 days when there was three days of no airplanes flying around. Fascinating for anyone who believes in science (I realize that leaves out all republicans, but one can hope).
September 12th, 2007 at 2:29 pmBobwurst
explain how rupert is a putting out the same smoke screen. (see link in post 62)
Did you click my link? It was a press conference about Bush appropriating funds to fight the zombie menace.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:30 pmVery funny about “zombies” — I prefer Stephen Colbert.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pmFlat earth was a consensus at one time.
Just sayin’
Comment by r — September 12, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
They didn’t have satellites orbiting the earth watching everything then either.
Just saying…
September 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pmFunny how the religious among us (the smart ones, at least) only remember Pascal when the subject is god and heaven.
They seem to forget his logic with respect to climate change.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pm“Slow moving terrorists” are a threat to David’s children?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:32 pmToasterhead…there is no disagreement about Climate Change.
Well, maybe just in the countries where a cheerleader is elected twice.
Comment by Juan C — September 12, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
I wish. I think they have some anti-science types in the UK, too. And in Turkey!
My point being - the type of disagreement among scientists is about, say, the degree of albedo effect of water vapor in the upper troposphere, or the effects a shift in the Gulf Stream would have on Atlantic hurricanes. They’re not disagreeing with the entire theory.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:33 pmIn fact, Archimedes knew that the Earth was round when he discovered hydrostatics.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:34 pmThey’re not disagreeing with the entire theory.
Comment by toasterhead
at all…
September 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pmr: “Flat earth was a consensus at one time.”
Yes, among the ignorant the consensus was to deny a round planet, just as with today where, among the ignorant, the consensus is to deny the severity of climate change.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pmIn fact, Archimedes knew that the Earth was round when he discovered hydrostatics.
Comment by Juan C — September 12, 2007 @ 2:34 pm
When he invented the “screw” that led to all the over population. (snicker). Sorry.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:36 pmDid you click my link? It was a press conference about Bush appropriating funds to fight the zombie menace.
Comment by squegeeboo
Bush is taking on the RNC?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmsqueeypoo,
September 12th, 2007 at 2:39 pmI can’t help but notice that you don’t have an answer as to why rupert murdoch, king of right-wing media, conserver of conservatism and high priest of wing-nut talking points is combating global warming. just like al.
What, “global security implications” such as, say, the extinction of many plants, animals, and then the human species?
Yeah, I guess that could have an impact on global security.
(I’m glad they’ve said it. People need to wake up and smell the looming disaster. They’re not going to have a lot of sand to bury their heads in for too many more decades).
September 12th, 2007 at 2:40 pmYes, among the ignorant the consensus was to deny a round planet, just as with today where, among the ignorant, the consensus is to deny the severity of climate change.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — September 12, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
I thought the scientific consensus was in favor of global warming. But your post indicates that the ignorant hold the consensus?
As I posted earlier, there’s no such thing as science by consensus.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:40 pmBobwurst
I can’t help but notice that you don’t have an answer
I can’t help by notice you must be some what new here. Don’t worry, you’ll grow to love me.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:42 pmHere’s a poem I wrote on my website
“Remember 9-11″
911 Dead Bodies in the Baghdad Morgue
911 Pounds of Explosives Detonating in Tikrit
911 Orphans Fleeing to Damascus
911 Sisters the Occupation Turned into Hookers
911 Million Dollars in the Pockets of Big Oil
Remember 9-11
911 Muslims in the American Gulag
911 Lies the Government Has Told
911 Brothers Kneeling in Prayer at Guantanamo
911 Sisters Being Cursed at the Store
911 Brothers Denied Jobs
Remember 9-11
911 Chechen Widows Begging for Food
911 Kids in Gaza with No School
911 Sleeping in the Cairo Graveyard
911 Girls Taking Off Hijab in French Schools
911 Young British Muslims Ready to Go All Out
Remember 911
911 Times I Pray for the Wicked to Be Punished
911 Levels of the Hell-fire I Wish On Bush and His Gang
911 Bullets of the Mujahudeen I Pray to be Blessed
911 Executions of Iraqi Traitors on a Blessed Day
911 Blows I Seek to Deliver Upon the Muslim-hater
by Umar Lee
P.S. Muslims - stop feeling the need to apologize for something you did not do!!!!!!! The American-Muslim community has no responsibility for 9-11!!!!!!
September 12th, 2007 at 2:42 pmIs it me, or do all of Jake D. Faker’s posts make absolutely no sense?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:46 pmcan’t help by notice you must be some what new here. Don’t worry, you’ll grow to love me.
Comment by squegeeboo
Are you asking me to meet you in the mens room at the airport in Minneapolis?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:48 pmWho’s doing the fear mongering now?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:49 pm88. That’s a real toe-tapper there Umar. Can you Hum me? I mean can you hum it for me?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:49 pmWhen he invented the “screw†that led to all the over population. (snicker). Sorry.
Comment by r
WTF is wrong with you? Dont you know that humor is a liberal virtue?
That was funny and clever.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:49 pmFor the record (from my very first post), all those people who die this winter from the cold indeed needed to pray for a little global warming. If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss my first (or any other) post here, please let me know.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:49 pmWho’s doing the fear mongering now?
Comment by Jeb Bush Cheney Lynn Pretzel
September 12th, 2007 at 2:50 pmwhat sort of weird fanasty life you you have that you can imagine jeb bush and lynn cheney in a pretzel like position?
Bobwurst
Are you asking me to meet you in the mens room at the airport in Minneapolis?
I had to do it this way, I forgot all the cool hand signals.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:51 pmI thought the scientific consensus was in favor of global warming. But your post indicates that the ignorant hold the consensus?
As I posted earlier, there’s no such thing as science by consensus.
Comment by r — September 12, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
The post you reference clearly states the consensus among the ignorant is to deny the severity of climate change. It does not state that the ignorant hold the consensus.
Furthermore, consensus is defined as “a collective opinion or general agreement” If scientists generally agree climate change is a problem then you will have a consensus. Again, this does not mean that the science is by consensus.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:52 pmJake D. sez:
For the record, Shakey Jake has once again demonstrated why he is not qualified to hold an opinion on the subject of global climate change, as he has utterly no understanding or appreciation of the complexity of the factors involved.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:52 pm911 Times I Pray for the Wicked to Be Punished
Comment by Umar Lee — September 12, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
The difference between your prayer and mine?
911 Times I Pray for the Wicked to Be Saved.
That pretty much sums it up.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:52 pmFrom Post #89, I asked if Jake D. Faker’s posts made any sense.
His exact next post:
For the record (from my very first post), all those people who die this winter from the cold indeed needed to pray for a little global warming.
whaaaaaat?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:53 pmI had to do it this way, I forgot all the cool hand signals.
Comment by squegeeboo
September 12th, 2007 at 2:53 pmI’ll be in stall 3, by the baby changing station. I’ll be wearing a blue uniform with a big “nightstick” dangling from my belt.
Jake D. sez:
For the record, anytime you try to float your idiotic bullshit, Shakey, I’m going to come along and sink it. Hide behind your infantile “ignore list” all you like, but it doesn’t work both ways.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:54 pmSo, in twenty, thirty or forty years all the problems caused by our burning up the oil and gasoline will become moot, since there will be nothing left to burn but coal.
Ever try to cram some lumps of coal into your gas tank? There may be another Ice Age just around the corner to boot, anyway…
Alas, we will not be saved by our gluttonous use of oil. We will NOT run out of carbon and thus be saved from our foolishness. There is at least several hundred years of coal that could be converted to liquid fuel or burned to make electricity for our cars. Even when the coal is gone, we could easily burn biofuels until the CO-2 is at 1000ppm and the planet is radically different. Heck we are going to see that in this century.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:56 pmimagine jeb bush and lynn cheney in a pretzel like position?
Comment by Bobwurst — September 12, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Dude I was going to eat my lunch, and know it is ruined.
OHOHOHOHOHGetitoutofmyheadahhhhhhhhhhhhhggggggggggggg
September 12th, 2007 at 2:56 pmThe difference between your prayer and mine?
911 Times I Pray for the Wicked to Be Saved.
That pretty much sums it up.
Comment by rrrrrrr! — September 12, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
So, right now, you are praying for those sadistic individuals, who raped, beat, knifed, and did other gawd awful things to a woman because she was black, to be saved?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:56 pmYou expect no punishment for them?
WTF is wrong with you?
It appears you hold the perpetrators in higher honor then the victim.
Whats his ignore list anyways? Did he code up an app to strip out certain comments? Or is that just people he’s promised to ignore?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:57 pmr sez:
Given the dishonest behavior you displayed today (let alone your total dishonest behavior to date), you do not get to claim the moral high ground.
Matthew 7:5
September 12th, 2007 at 2:58 pmUmar Lee: “Muslims - stop feeling the need to apologize for something you did not do!!!!!!! The American-Muslim community has no responsibility for 9-11!!!!”
I would have liked to see a little more of a public repudiation of violence after the attack. Why was the muslim community so silent? Don’t you think it would have helped things a little for the American muslim community to be more vocal in reputiating terrorism?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:59 pmWhats his ignore list anyways? Did he code up an app to strip out certain comments? Or is that just people he’s promised to ignore?
Comment by squegeeboo
It’s comprised of anyone who has called him out on being a serial liar, or an idiot. He likes to pretend he’s a 75 year old korean war vet in order to back up his republican talking points. he got busted plaigarising a real vet’s bio. instead of just going away, he pulls out his imaginary list and hides behind it. hint: when he starts a post with “for the record…” he’s responding to someone on his “ignore list” pretty weird.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss the “Ignore List” or even whether global warming may be like nuclear war, please let me know.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:04 pmBobwurst
hint: when he starts a post with “for the record…†he’s responding to someone on his “ignore list†pretty weird.
Man, I stop visiting for a few weeks to actually get work done, and I missed that development?
September 12th, 2007 at 3:04 pmI would have liked to see a little more of a public repudiation of violence after the attack. Why was the muslim community so silent? Don’t you think it would have helped things a little for the American muslim community to be more vocal in reputiating terrorism?
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — September 12, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
The Muslim community was not silent.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:05 pmDon’t you think it would have helped things a little for the American muslim community to be more vocal in reputiating terrorism?
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
It is a wide spread idea among Arab countries, which get a whole lot more reliable news than US population, that American people is responsible for US govt actions. In some sense, it is like Karma.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pmJake D. sez:
Oh, yes, by all means. Let’s make your stupidity recursive.
Side note: have you ever noticed that if you discuss your pathetic little “ignore list” long enough, Shakey, people previously not on the list show up and petition you to add them? Why do you think that is? ^_^
September 12th, 2007 at 3:10 pmTake a hint Jake, no one on or off the ignore list, want to discuss anything with you. so please take your record, and your ignore list, roll em tight and shove up your ass.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:10 pm“There’s no such thing as science by consensuses”
Comment by r
Consensuses:
def.
The science of consensual sinus infections.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:11 pmKrazny, why rolling them tight?
September 12th, 2007 at 3:12 pmDoes anyone currently not on my “Bore List” wish to discuss this statement:
“65 countries were likely to lose over 15 percent of their agricultural output by 2100.
I mean, come on, people. It’s not like I or my children will be alive.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmGeez, let my grandchildren and their children figure out what to do.
Hell, when I was a kid, I actually had to get up…..and change the channel to switch TV stations. Barefoot.
Anyone else?
September 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmDon’t you think it would have helped things a little for the American muslim community to be more vocal in reputiating terrorism?
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper
yes, but think about how non muslims (read white folk) were, and continue to be, shouted down when they speak out. Our patriotism gets questioned, we’re accused of wantng Al Queda to win. We get accused of wanting our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan to get killed and we enjoy it when it happens.
Now think about what it would be like if you were a dark-skinned, black haired person. People were refusing to sit next “arabs” on airplanes. muslims were removed from planes for praying and the msm pretended it was ok. If it was me, I’d do my best to keep my head down, granted, I’m a coward.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:15 pmKrazny, why rolling them tight?
Comment by Juan C — September 12, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
ROFL
September 12th, 2007 at 3:16 pmhehehe. The Bore List.
Funny.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:19 pmJake D. sez:
<the usual crickets…>
September 12th, 2007 at 3:23 pmAnyone else?
Comment by Jake D.Korean Vet Fake— September 12, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
hey, was that a direct response to TripMaster Monkey or me?
September 12th, 2007 at 3:27 pmEither way, it was a response. So I take it one of us is off the Ignore List?
Well, then let’s discuss, shall we???
I think my ex-bro in law maybe right.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:33 pmHis stance is that humans are a virus on the planet.
Like most viruses, they do a good deal of damage as they strive to exist and repopulate the species.
But the earth will find a way to exterminate them if they make the planet so inhospitable that the virus no longer can exist in that environment.
And the planet will recuperate is say, oh, a couple hundred thousand years or so.
I think I’ll make up some T-shirts that say
!~I’m on Jake’s Ignore List~!
September 12th, 2007 at 3:37 pmWhy doesn’t President Bush declare a war on Warmerism?
September 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pmAnyone else?
Comment by Jake D. — September 12, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
Sure. Why not?
September 12th, 2007 at 5:09 pmJuan C.
September 12th, 2007 at 5:55 pmEratoschenes measured the radius of the Earth in 200 BC. The Pope declared it flat about 500 AD.
Many thanks to Toasterhead for schooling me on the American Muslim community’s repudiation of terrorism after the 9-11 attack.
But, Juan, I simply do not agree that the people in our country are always responsible for the actions of our government; not while we have a shadow government run by a military industrial complex which persues policies with which the majority of citizens do not agree.
September 12th, 2007 at 7:34 pmIts lucky that they can predict the weather a few days out- this global warming fanaticism is just left wing terroism.
September 13th, 2007 at 12:09 amYes, and avian flu may kill 10 million people. Or 1,000. You know, give or take a few. Long live the doom-mongers!
September 13th, 2007 at 4:34 am> Is there anywhere you can go
> on this planet to escape Propaganda?
Fox news. It says its fair and balanced on the side of the box, so it must be true.
September 13th, 2007 at 7:18 am