Comments on: In Speech Tonight, Bush Will Lay Out Long-Term Plan To Stay In Iraq http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:28:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Lorraine http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4076326 Lorraine Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:40:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4076326 Well, it was a fleeting hope that comment #264 might be proven false. But instead he was proven absolutely correct. All I can say is, "coffee break over. Back on our heads..." Well, it was a fleeting hope that comment #264 might be proven false. But instead he was proven absolutely correct. All I can say is, “coffee break over. Back on our heads…”

]]> By: Why are Republicans destroying America? http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4076289 Why are Republicans destroying America? Fri, 14 Sep 2007 06:16:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4076289 The longer the troops stay in Iraq, the longer people will be cursing George Bush for his grand failure. What a legacy. The longer the troops stay in Iraq, the longer people will be cursing George Bush for his grand failure. What a legacy.

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4076231 jb Fri, 14 Sep 2007 05:29:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4076231 # Pentagon Capitalism was the wry title of one of Melman’s books. What did he mean by it? “Since 1951,” he wrote, the budget of the Department of Defense each year exceeds the net profits of all U.S. corporations. So, in finance capital terms, that means that the management of that budget controls the largest single block of finance capital resources. Wow. Comment by Zep Tepi — September 14, 2007 @ 12:20 am Wow is right. I knew these bastards were greedy money grubbers, but that statement is cold. Wow. #

Pentagon Capitalism was the wry title of one of Melman’s books. What did he mean by it? “Since 1951,” he wrote,

the budget of the Department of Defense each year exceeds the net profits of all U.S. corporations. So, in finance capital terms, that means that the management of that budget controls the largest single block of finance capital resources.

Wow.

Comment by Zep Tepi — September 14, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Wow is right. I knew these bastards were greedy money grubbers, but that statement is cold. Wow.

]]> By: Zep Tepi http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4076113 Zep Tepi Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:20:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4076113 Pentagon Capitalism was the wry title of one of Melman’s books. What did he mean by it? “Since 1951,” he wrote, the budget of the Department of Defense each year exceeds the net profits of all U.S. corporations. So, in finance capital terms, that means that the management of that budget controls the largest single block of finance capital resources. Wow. Pentagon Capitalism was the wry title of one of Melman’s books. What did he mean by it? “Since 1951,” he wrote,

the budget of the Department of Defense each year exceeds the net profits of all U.S. corporations. So, in finance capital terms, that means that the management of that budget controls the largest single block of finance capital resources.

Wow.

]]> By: BK http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4076055 BK Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:57:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4076055 Now can a single honest person, that lives in the United States, actually say this comes as some great surprise? The plan to take Iraq by Invasion, and to occupy that country in perpetuity (like Japan and Germany) has been the strategy from day one. To say or think otherwise is the most crass self deception. A nation doesn't spend $1 trillion usd plus to destroy, and then occupy the ruins, that has the slightest intention of ever leaving. Any person with an IQ of over 3 had this one figured out the day the US Army crossed the Kuwaiti boarder. Of course there was no intention of ever leaving Iraq. The shareholders at Exxon/Mobil would never approve of such folly. And since they control the US economy, what the Hell else would you expect? This has been the crux of the matter from the very outset of the entire farce. As Hitler once said, "Who is in any position to question the motives or tactics of the Victors, in any armed conflict? Absolutely no one. And like it or not, History has proved the Fuhrer quite correct once again. In Practice. The Nation with the bigger brigades always comes out on top. Truth and morality be damned. Now can a single honest person, that lives in the United States,
actually say this comes as some great surprise? The plan to take
Iraq by Invasion, and to occupy that country in perpetuity (like
Japan and Germany) has been the strategy from day one. To
say or think otherwise is the most crass self deception. A nation
doesn’t spend $1 trillion usd plus to destroy, and then occupy the
ruins, that has the slightest intention of ever leaving. Any person
with an IQ of over 3 had this one figured out the day the US Army
crossed the Kuwaiti boarder. Of course there was no intention of
ever leaving Iraq. The shareholders at Exxon/Mobil would never
approve of such folly. And since they control the US economy, what the Hell else would you expect? This has been the crux of the matter from the very outset of the entire farce. As Hitler once said, “Who is in any position to question the motives or tactics of the Victors, in any armed conflict? Absolutely no one. And like it or not, History has proved the
Fuhrer quite correct once again. In Practice. The Nation with the bigger brigades always comes out on top. Truth and morality be damned.

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075906 jb Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:25:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075906 # I smell Civil War… …II… Comment by big papa — September 13, 2007 @ 9:34 pm I overheard a guy saying he was trading the ballot box for the ammo box. I think its only a matter of time till the war comes home. #

I smell Civil War…

…II…

Comment by big papa — September 13, 2007 @ 9:34 pm
I overheard a guy saying he was trading the ballot box for the ammo box. I think its only a matter of time till the war comes home.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075905 katy Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:25:54 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075905 who could ever know, gerald... LOOK FORWARD. . who could ever know, gerald…

LOOK FORWARD.
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]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075903 jb Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:23:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075903 Why not just add Iraq as another state? I'm sure they would vote Republican. I'll be glad when the common ground Bush is seeking is the ground six feet down. Its time to confiscate the "ranch" in Crawford and turn it into a free rest and convalescent home for Veterans. Might also be a fitting place for the Iraq Illegal War Memorial. Why not just add Iraq as another state? I’m sure they would vote Republican. I’ll be glad when the common ground Bush is seeking is the ground six feet down. Its time to confiscate the “ranch” in Crawford and turn it into a free rest and convalescent home for Veterans. Might also be a fitting place for the Iraq Illegal War Memorial.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075899 BARTLEBEE Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:20:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075899 Good question Gerald. Good question Gerald.

]]> By: Gerald Gibson http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075896 Gerald Gibson Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:16:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075896 <i> Edwards was pretty good on that commercial. He looked like he found his game. Comment by BARTLEBEE </i> He sure did... I just ask myself.. if he was back Congress would he do what he says Congress should do?
Edwards was pretty good on that commercial. He looked like he found his game.

Comment by BARTLEBEE

He sure did…

I just ask myself.. if he was back Congress would he do what he says Congress should do?

]]> By: troqua http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075895 troqua Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:15:59 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075895 Comment by Charlie H — September 13, 2007 @ 10:09 pm The End Game. Comment by Charlie H — September 13, 2007 @ 10:09 pm

The End Game.

]]> By: Gerald Gibson http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075894 Gerald Gibson Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:15:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075894 <i> Pat Buchanan is a seasoned Bushbal*licker… …they must train ‘em young… Comment by big papa </i> Maybe so, but he sounded correct to me about the body language of Biden... the democrats are going to fold.
Pat Buchanan is a seasoned Bushbal*licker…

…they must train ‘em young…

Comment by big papa

Maybe so, but he sounded correct to me about the body language of Biden… the democrats are going to fold.

]]> By: Charlie H http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075891 Charlie H Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:09:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075891 Never ending war is right. It's what they want and what they've been putting in place since the McKinley administration. The USA in Iraq is going to end up like the British in India-----a couple of centuries of colonialism and theft on a grand scale under the pretense of "civilizing" the people. Never ending war is right. It’s what they want and what they’ve been putting in place since the McKinley administration. The USA in Iraq is going to end up like the British in India—–a couple of centuries of colonialism and theft on a grand scale under the pretense of “civilizing” the people.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075890 BARTLEBEE Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:06:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075890 Edwards was pretty good on that commercial. He looked like he found his game. Edwards was pretty good on that commercial. He looked like he found his game.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075889 katy Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:03:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075889 's ok... i'm used to talking to myself... self, from what i heard, dubya's speech went over like a lead balloon... except for "the base" (the "have more's)... pat buchanan thinks it was a hit with the base... imagine that... ... ’s ok… i’m used to talking to myself…

self, from what i heard, dubya’s speech
went over like a lead balloon…

except for “the base” (the “have more’s)…
pat buchanan thinks it was a hit with the base…

imagine that…
…

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075886 katy Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:57:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075886 that was pretty cool... keith says "watch the commercials"... and after a few of the usual corporates, there was EDWARDS, calling out the FACTS, calling out the CONGRESS... END THIS WAR. (but i only counted 1 minute, didn't i? ... more to come?) . that was pretty cool… keith says “watch the commercials”…
and after a few of the usual corporates, there was EDWARDS,
calling out the FACTS, calling out the CONGRESS…

END THIS WAR.

(but i only counted 1 minute, didn’t i? … more to come?)
.

]]> By: troqua http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075884 troqua Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:57:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075884 Just as an aside, I'm finding it interesting that the speech analysis on MSNBC is being headed by Keith, not Tweety. Just as an aside, I’m finding it interesting that the speech analysis on MSNBC is being headed by Keith, not Tweety.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075874 katy Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:43:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075874 waiting for the edwards 2 minute spot... anyone know when that is scheduled? . waiting for the edwards 2 minute spot…
anyone know when that is scheduled?
.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075872 katy Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:40:00 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075872 huckabee wants more to die to honor the deaths... i really can't imagine that the families of those who have died would wish that for any of the other families... ... huckabee wants more to die to honor the deaths…

i really can’t imagine that the families of those who have died
would wish that for any of the other families…
…

]]> By: PeterW http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/comment-page-6/#comment-4075870 PeterW Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:37:58 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/bush-russert/#comment-4075870 This is just the direct cost. Once you add in replacement of military hardware and ordnance, and medical and other costs incurred by wounded and PTSD vets, and the social costs associated with that, economists say we're already in for 2 trillion for just the war so far. So at this rate, we're looking at 6 trillion or so in overall costs, including externalities. There's no such thing as a fiscally responsible conservative. It's in the same category as the tooth fairy. This is just the direct cost. Once you add in replacement of military hardware and ordnance, and medical and other costs incurred by wounded and PTSD vets, and the social costs associated with that, economists say we’re already in for 2 trillion for just the war so far.

So at this rate, we’re looking at 6 trillion or so in overall costs, including externalities.

There’s no such thing as a fiscally responsible conservative. It’s in the same category as the tooth fairy.

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