And this:

Tonight on 60 Minutes, Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division, revealed that in the fall of 2002, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and others were told by CIA Director George Tenet that Iraq’s foreign minister — who agreed to act as a spy for the United States — had reported that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction program.

Drumheller has also said that he told Tenet to remove information in Powell’s speech to the U.N. that had been gleaned from “Curveball” because he was not a trusted source. Tenet said he would take care of it yet the info was left in the speech.

Bottom line?

DRUMHELLER: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy.

I have explained to you many times that Saddam DID comply. He allowed the weapons inspectors in, he did not have any WMD and he gave a 20,000 page report accounting for his past WMD.

The weapons inspectors said they looked every place they could think of, and if the White House could suggest some place to look they would do so. The White House ordered them out.

The White House DID lie. They said Iraq HAD stockpiles of WMD: 500 tons, 42,000 liters and 38,000 liters. The uranium from Africa was a lie. The aluminum tubes was a lie. The meeting in Prague was a lie. The drones was a lie. The ready to launch in 15 minutes was a lie. The ties to al Qaeda was a lie. The shack in the north was a lie. The mobile weapons lab was a lie.

We bugged the Security Council’s phones and when we realized the vote would go 11-4 against the US, we pulled out.

The Downing Street Memo is true. It said the policy of invasion was set in summer of 2002 and the “evidence” would be made up later.

Comment by Keith — September 14, 2007 @ 2:02 am

I can see why they would bring the troops home seeing as many of the ‘terrusts’ as George says [potential recruits for extremism] have fled to other countries.

Now tell me how that is a success Bigfoot? They fly some reporters into Baghdad, show them around for four days, and suddenly all these facts, above, dissapear into la la land.

Comment by O. Bigfoot

Now your backing the ‘liberal’ press?

Why is this pathetic excuse of a human-being still president and not in jail?

bigfoot has a stream of pee running down his legs, and he thinks it’s the “main”stream.

Comment by bilbogaggins — September 14, 2007 @ 9:57 am”

You just go right on believing this leftist propoganda, bilbo. It keeps you busy while the mainstream is actually running the country.

ronjazz doesn’t hate the military you do. He wants to get our military out of a hopeless mess that Bush and Company has placed them in. He wants to bring our brave soldiers home…

Comment by bilbogaggins — September 14, 2007 @ 10:05 am”

Wrong. ronjazz certainly hates the military. Words mean things. He displays nothing but disgust for our military, stating they are mere murderers of innocent people, and stating that anyone who joins the military is only being sent off to fight for oil. Total bullcrap, of course, but it does betray his true feelings.

And now I must ask you the same question, since you feel you need to answer for ronjazz for some reason (he apparently isn’t capable of answering for himself): Do you concur with ronjazz in hating our military?

Instead of sheeple effected by propaganda, it is more the effect of progressive propaganda wearing thin after 5 years of predictions of defeat that never materialize.

How’s the impeachment coming along?

ronjazz doesn’t hate the military you do. He wants to get our military out of a hopeless mess that Bush and Company has placed them in. He wants to bring our brave soldiers home.

You, on the other hand, are content to allow our military to continue to fight a battle that can’t be won. You can’t “win” an occupation. You are content to allow our military to be in the middle of a civil war and you are content to allow our young men and women to be killed and maimed. You, sir, are a traitor and a disgrace to human kind.

Sorry Paul, all it proves is that progressives aren’t easily duped like you sheeple are. The ONLY reason why Bush is bringing troops home is because he has to unless he is willing to extend the current 15 month tours to a longer tour or bring back the draft. Bush is smart enough to realize that either of those two actions would be suicide, so he is twisting the facts to his advantage, something he has become an expert at.

You, sir, are a brainwashed idiot.

You know Foot in Mouth, you are a prime case of brainwashing. Anyone who cared to pay attention knows this is a lie. There were weapons inspectors on the ground in Iraq when Bush decided that he was going to invade. HE, meaning Bush, pulled the weapons inspectors out and then told the public that Saddam kicked them out.

Bush’s approval ratings are between 30 and 37 percent depending on who is doing the asking. It’s no surprise that the highest ratings come from Faux Noise and CNN polls.

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

All any bump in his numbers shows is there are still a lot of sheeple in this country who are influenced by propaganda.

Bush indicates troops will be coming home. But, progressives aren’t content with applauding the troop cuts (because they care about the lives of the soldiers), they are more interested with tying the reduction to what they hope observers will see as a failed policy to fuel there partisanship.

If you really cared about the troops you’d be happy about the ones coming home and encourage the return of the rest. Instead, you want to spin any reduction in force into some sick political victory.

How did you work yourselves into a position, in which, you feel your success comes from perceived American failure?