Matthews: Bush’s claim of ‘36 countries’ in Iraq is ‘ludicrous.’
In his address to the nation tonight, President Bush said, “To the international community: The success of a free Iraq matters to every civilized nation. We thank the 36 nations who have troops on the ground in Iraq and the many others who are helping that young democracy.” In the MSNBC post-debate analysis with Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews slammed Bush’s allegations that so many countries were fighting:
The fact we have 36 countries fighting on our side in Iraq must be news to the soldiers over there. I don’t know who these people are or how many divisions they have. All we read about in the papers are American GIs getting killed by IEDs and terrible accidents and all kinds of enemy action over there. … The idea we’re one of 36 countries fighting the war I think is ludicrous and why the President would throw that out there, I think it only opens him up to ridicule.
Watch it:
CNN reported in February that there are now fewer than 25 countries who still have a presence in Iraq, down from the 49 that made up the original “coalition of the willing.”
UPDATE: The AP reports that with 168,000 troops, the United States has “the overwhelming majority of troops” in Iraq. Albania, for example, has just “120 soldiers there and Bulgaria has 150 non-combat troops in Iraq.”
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Fooling the 28%’ers again, and those are the ones you concentrate on.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:32 pmZERO CREDIBILITY. The guy is snake bit.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:34 pmHey Bush STFU.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:36 pmARGH!
September 13th, 2007 at 10:37 pmi think it is time to start pushing the removal of bush under the 25th amendment-he is totally delusional.
i am curious if anyone thinks a one day national strike would help to show the extent of opposition to the occupation
September 13th, 2007 at 10:37 pmi am curious if anyone thinks a one day national strike would help to show the extent of opposition to the occupation
Comment by sue g — September 13, 2007 @ 10:37 pm
I’m up for a week or month or until this nightmare ends.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:39 pmMore lies = grounds for impeachment! Congress must take action immediately and bring about IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:39 pmMaybe he considered the nationalities of all of the U.S. troops fighting. An American Italian might count as Italy joining the Coalition. He’s reaching no doubt. But he also knows that a lie told often enough will work. No one hears the retraction… not that he’s ever made a retraction.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:40 pmIMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS.
Comment by razzle — September 13, 2007 @ 10:39 pm
Its as if he is taunting, daring….you know, “Bring it on!” He’s way past due.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:42 pmWikipedia’s Coalition of the Willing page does list 22 countries with troops in Iraq. Yes, I remembered Poland. Yes, I included all 12 guys from Moldova.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:43 pmImpeachment would be nice and there are plenty of High Crimes that Georgie is guilty of. However, I don’t think Congress has the stones to bring the impeachment charges. Maybe the evidence of Bush’s latest lies tonight will help Congress do the right thing. Our military men and women’s lives may depend on it.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:43 pmLawrence Rafferty
arguewithmydad. com
Uh Oh, has Tweety sworn off the kool-aid, finally?
September 13th, 2007 at 10:43 pmHow about a one day moratorium much like the ones during Vietnam. We need Vets involved.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:51 pmOoops, our DNI made more false claims about the Patriot Act, the Republicans’ little baby of an excuse for tyranny which as now the whole world can see doesn’t even do the job the frops say it does.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004177.php
All this torture. All this moronic illegal spying. And for what? So we can still have bin Ladin on the loose over six years after he singlehandedly committed a modern day Pearl Harbor on America? So we can be bogged down in a costly, bungled occupation in some two bit country for more than four years with no end in sight while we should be getting the guy who really attacked us? Enough already. It’s time for impeachment proceedings.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:57 pmYes but those 12 Moldovans are kicking ass too. In fact, they have a dance where they fold their arms and squat as they go around in a circle and kick the guy ahead of him in the ass. Thirty-six nations of ass kickers.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:57 pmI would personally like to thank Moldova for the 2 cobblers, 3 pastry chefs and 7 housekeepers they sent to support our ‘Merkin troops.
-The Decider
September 13th, 2007 at 10:58 pmI don’t think Congress has the stones to bring the impeachment charges.
Comment by Lawrence E. Rafferty — September 13, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
It has nothing to do with having the stones.
Congress doesn’t have the votes for impeachment and thats the problem.
A one vote majority in the senate won’t cut it. You need a two thirds majority and thats all there is to it.
And THATS why I refuse to vote republican next election, regardless of who the republicans put up. If the republicans resurrected Abe Lincoln and made him the RNC candidate I’d still wouldn’t vote republican. They haven’t earned my vote. Its time to impeach. They know it. We know it. And they won’t vote for it because of party loyalties and that earns them my disgust, not my vote.
September 13th, 2007 at 10:58 pmIn his speech to the nation Thursday night, President Bush unveiled the latest official White House talking point on Iraq. Destined for regurgitation from reliable Republican mouthpieces is “Return on Success.” That business sounding jargon from our first - and failed - MBA president is designed to reassure the American people that after our troops fight them there, they can come home here.
For the complete list of RNC-approved Iraq sound bites, see:
September 13th, 2007 at 10:59 pm“‘Return on Success’ Added to Official GOP Iraq Talking Points.”
I remember back in 2003, a reporter asked the leader of Tonga or Palau (I forget which) how his country was contributing and he didn’t have the slightest idea what the reporter was talking about!
September 13th, 2007 at 10:59 pmMore testimony on the controlled demolition of Building 7 came out today which further indicts the Bush Administration for it’s ongoing lies about what happened on that day. Here’s the thread - there are many witnesses now coming forth. It’s time to convene a “grand jury” and reopen this investigation because the official story is far from the truth. Is Kucinich still looking into it?
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles/ september2007/ 130907_demolition_countdown.htm
September 13th, 2007 at 11:00 pmShhh don’t tell anyone OBL is DEAD. Look at how nice and dark his beard is in this last video. He doesn’t use Grecian Formula, it’s not OBL.
We just keep him around when we need to scare the 28%’ers
BOOOO!
Jesus Saves!
September 13th, 2007 at 11:00 pmRummy’s “Mother of all coalitions” is starting to look like the “red-headed step child of all coalitions”.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:01 pmBUSH IS A LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21 other countries have other troops in Iraq.
Spin on conturds and dine on your dung curds.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/ military/ ops/ iraq_orbat_coalition.htm
September 13th, 2007 at 11:01 pmAngry One: Aren’t you appalled at the juvenile level of mentality in the cutsey little talking points and sound bites. The acronyms are something right out of Mother Goose and then there’s the ridiculous deckof cards. It’s all game to Bush - all one big sadistic board game. OIL = Occupation Iraqi Liberation - it’s always been about the oil.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:02 pm#21 Razzle, Is that you Castro?
September 13th, 2007 at 11:03 pmDon’t forget the Spanish paella cooks…
September 13th, 2007 at 11:03 pmShhh don’t tell anyone OBL is DEAD. Look at how nice and dark his beard is in this last video.
Comment by George W Hitler — September 13, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
Actually I think that was really Borat in that video.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:06 pmrazzle
September 13th, 2007 at 11:06 pmthey have to get cute on the talking points, its really got to be dumed down to get your attention. by the way, when are we going to get the oil?
Comment by George W Hitler — September 13, 2007 @ 11:00 pm
When “OBL”’s audio mentions events in the last two years, the video is frozen. When he speaks of old events, the video moves again. Some believe OBL died in the huge eathquake two years ago that killed 75,000 in Pakistan.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:07 pmwhen are we going to get the oil?
Comment by umbra — September 13, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
When are you going to learn?——-Republicans do not benefit consumers. They benefit corporations. Now that a barrel is over $76, the top five oil corp’s reserves are worth $2.2 Trillion.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:10 pmBush can’t be that stupid and he can’t think the people of the US are that stupid. I think he is taunting Congress and the thinking majority of our citizens. He is trying to provoke the good citizens of the USA. He might want to rethink that, if that is his objective.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:11 pmKeith
September 13th, 2007 at 11:13 pmover 80 today, so who’s benefiting? not coming here.
The top Western oil companies are benefiting. That was the idea all along. Preventing Saddam from selling his oil to Russia and China and in Euros.
The net worth of these oil corps has skyrocketed since their reserves are now worth $2.2 TRILLION.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:16 pmTaunting congress, give me a break, they’re not interested in anything but pork. Six weeks after a fatal Minneapolis bridge collapse prompted criticism of federal spending priorities, the Senate approved a transportation and housing bill Wednesday containing at least $2 billion for pet projects that include a North Dakota peace garden, a Montana baseball stadium and a Las Vegas history museum
September 13th, 2007 at 11:16 pmPublic record keith, check it. No iraq oil exported yet, port facilities.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:18 pmPlus, one of the benchmarks that the Iraqis are supposed to agree to is turning over up to 80% of their oil resources to these top Western oil companies—not nationalized and going to the Iraqi people as before our invasion. I don’t know why people cannot get this!
September 13th, 2007 at 11:18 pmI most definitely did not say that any Iraqi oil had been exported, yet!!!
September 13th, 2007 at 11:19 pmhmmm, and where did you find this lil tidbit, on thinkprogress?
September 13th, 2007 at 11:19 pmYou know I’m surprised this is the only excerpt from Chris Matthews that TP posted on tonight. Matthews really railed on Bush tonight, like I’ve never seen him. I think he’s thrown up the koolaid and is fighting mad.
He SLAMMED the Bush administration and Bush in particular, for putting Petreaus out there to defend his policy, and for clearly prolonging the war merely to save face.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:21 pmSay what you will about Powell, but he hits the f*king nail on the head with the statement below. We should throw it in the face of every person who yells that the terrorists will kill us in our grocery stores and shopping malls and will take over America if we leave Iraq.
Powell, via crooksandliars.com:
What is the greatest threat facing us now? People will say it’s terrorism. But are there any terrorists in the world who can change the American way of life or our political system? No. Can they knock down a building? Yes. Can they kill somebody? Yes. But can they change us? No. Only we can change ourselves.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:21 pmuh, excuse me, congress endorsed him.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:22 pmpet projects that include a North Dakota peace garden, a Montana baseball stadium and a Las Vegas history museum
Comment by umbra
Progressives are opposed to such things. But the Iraq War costs 1000X as much, kills one million people, destabilizes the entire Middle East, and increases terrorism.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:23 pmbut…but…it’s the mother of all coalitions! Don’t forget to thank Moldavia, Freedonia, and Oz!
September 13th, 2007 at 11:23 pmWC
September 13th, 2007 at 11:24 pmSo when the towers went down, the markets went down, just a building, not the economy. Too many people like you.
they’re not interested in anything
Comment by umbra — September 13, 2007 @ 11:16 pm
Maybe that’s why he is taunting…knows they won’t do a damn thing. Seems to fit his personality ala his famous “Bring it on” comment. I just hope he meets his comeuppance soon before he does our country further damage.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:24 pmWeel then, I guess it was bad for Bush to allow us to be attacked like that!!!
September 13th, 2007 at 11:26 pmKeith
September 13th, 2007 at 11:26 pmProgressives are opposed to such things. well, cant fantom what ur talking about, it happened, 2 dems and 12 repubs voted against it, now the peace garden will probablly be a big draw.
but…but…it’s the mother of all coalitions! Don’t forget to thank Moldavia, Freedonia, and Oz!
Comment by Republicans are the Fear and Smear Party — September 13, 2007 @ 11:23 pm
Yea. And Narnia. Don’t forget Narnia.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:27 pmChrissy is a real dumby. “If it’s not in the papers then it must not be true”.
33 countries MNFI, UN and NATO with over 11,000 troops. 19 of those countries have troop fatalities.
Albania
September 13th, 2007 at 11:27 pmArmenia
Australia
Azerbaijan
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Poland
Romania
Singapore
Slovakia
Ukraine
UK
Denmark
El Salvador
Estonia
Georgia
Japan
Kazakhstan
Korea
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
Moldova
Mongolia
jb
September 13th, 2007 at 11:28 pmslow down, catch a breath, your really hypo.
phinga bheng
September 13th, 2007 at 11:29 pmthank you
Comment by phinga bheng — September 13, 2007 @ 11:27 pm
No you’re an idiot if you think the injection of 100 non combat troops constitutes a coalition.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:30 pmjb
September 13th, 2007 at 11:30 pmbreathe, breathe, you’ll make it
pet projects that include a North Dakota peace garden, a Montana baseball stadium and a Las Vegas history museum
Comment by umbra
Sounds like you have the false assumption that all Democrats are Progressive and that all Congressmen have a line item veto.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:31 pmI believe it was Lativa that offered the Monkeys to sniff out landmines.
We told em thanks but we already had enough of them in the White House.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:31 pmPlus, one of the benchmarks that the Iraqis are supposed to agree to is turning over up to 80% of their oil resources to these top Western oil companies—not nationalized and going to the Iraqi people as before our invasion. I don’t know why people cannot get this!
Comment by Keith
You wanna know why people don’t get this? Because it’s a lie. You don’t have a clue which oil companies are operating in Iraq.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:32 pmBARTLEBEE
September 13th, 2007 at 11:32 pmsorry but your the idiot, we count a few countries in NATO with less than 2 members
Once in a while Matthews slams Bush–especially about Iraq, but the second Laura Ingram or Tom DeLay come on his show he’s a slobbering nerd who acts like he finally gets to sit with the “cool kids” at the “cool table” in the school cafeteria.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:33 pmNo you’re the idiot umbra.
For calling that motley crew of countries most of whom don’t even have a real military to speak of, and none of whom has offered so much as a single brigade, a coalition.
You’re a moron in fact.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:34 pmBARTLEBEE
September 13th, 2007 at 11:34 pmIf you had anything to add that was coherent, or believeable, sorry.
get a life, better yet, read a real newspaper
If you had anything to add that was coherent, or believeable, sorry.
Comment by umbra — September 13, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Hmmm. Was that supposed to be a complete sentence?
September 13th, 2007 at 11:35 pmEverybody know the “coalition” is a sham, always has been and its been getting smaller.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:36 pmBARTLEBEE
September 13th, 2007 at 11:36 pmOh, im so injured by an idiots insults, ill be dressing my wounds with another …. you figure it out
“We thank the 36 nations who have troops on the ground in Iraq…” How Reaganesque. “I told you your bedtime story, now go to sleep America.”
September 13th, 2007 at 11:36 pmAs for reading newspapers, which one would you like me to read moron?
Cause everyone I see on the newstands says Bush is a moron, there is no coalition but us, and you’re an inbred halfbaked loon for buying it.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:36 pmIraqi Oil Benchmark
http://www.prospect.org/ cs/ articles?article=iraqi_oil_a_benchmark_or_a_giveaway
September 13th, 2007 at 11:36 pmOh yeah… that’s a fightin’ force!
http://www.spacewar.com/ reports/ Japanese_Soldiers_Head_Home_As_Iraq_Mission_Ends_999.html
IRAQ WARS
Japanese Soldiers Head Home As Iraq Mission Ends
Japanese troops in Iraq. Photo courtesy of AFP.
by Jay Deshmukh
Baghdad (AFP) Jul 07, 2006
Japanese troops in Iraq began heading home Friday as the first batch of 38 soldiers were flown out by British military choppers as part of the announced withdrawal, a military source said. “Thirty-eight Japanese soldiers left Iraq today. The actual troop withdrawal has started,” the source told AFP, adding the soldiers left for Kuwait.
Japan ordered its 600 troops to leave Iraq on June 20, ending its first military mission since World War II to a country where fighting is under way. The withdrawal is expected to be completed by late July.
While the withdrawal of Japanese troops from the southern province of Muthanna began on Friday, Japan has been moving its military vehicles and engineering equipment out of Iraq since June 20.
The Japanese mission in Iraq relied on British and Australian troops for protection as its own troops are barred from using force.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pmBecause Estonia sends us a dozen Selchow & Righter “Parcheesi” games hardly qualifies them as members of any “coalition” Perle, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld want Bush to believe exists. This is Bush’s war–America knows it, the world knows it, and history will know it.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:41 pmComment by The republic of Stupidity — September 13, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
The Japanese are known for making a product better, cheaper and more efficiently.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:43 pmThe republic of Stupidity
First military mission since wwII
September 13th, 2007 at 11:43 pmpoint counter point, hmmm, a histrian would know what 600 jap troops could do.
HighPockets
September 13th, 2007 at 11:44 pmwont comment, based on your name.
You really should pick another name. Umbra is way too Freudian.
“How’s your umbra?”
“Fine, how’s your schlong?”
September 13th, 2007 at 11:44 pmRepublicans are the Fear and Smear Party
September 13th, 2007 at 11:45 pmmines fine, sorry about yours
Albania only has 3.6 million people in its country.
USA’s population is 300 Million.
Albania’s comparative contribution is closer to 12,500 troops…which…if you’re willing to statistically consider it…is a sizable contribution.
But…if you think only hard numbers…then only a few countries on this planet could ever contribute on a remote level to the US.
Think what you want about the war…and of course about coutries token ‘non-combat’ troops ;-)
…but if you ‘adjust for inflation’…you should at least ‘adjust for population’ in your statistics.
Or not.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:46 pmpoint counter point, hmmm, a histrian would know what 600 jap troops could do.
Comment by umbra — September 13, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
When they’re not allowed to fight?? (You did read the whole post, no?)
AN historian would also probably be able to spell “historian” too!
September 13th, 2007 at 11:46 pmMore on Iraq Oil Law:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/30/201/
September 13th, 2007 at 11:46 pmKeith, you never heard of production sharing aggreements (PSAs).
September 13th, 2007 at 11:46 pmNo where in the proposed PSAs does Iraq agree to hand ownership of their oil fields to foreign companies or states. If you find one you can let me know. Besides, The Iraq Oil Ministry supports this production sharing model just as it has been used since the 60’s. Can you name the non-western countries operating in Iraq?
Or not.
Comment by Helloo… — September 13, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
Is that you, Mr P?
September 13th, 2007 at 11:47 pmjust what is a histrian???
September 13th, 2007 at 11:47 pmThe republic of Stupidity
September 13th, 2007 at 11:47 pmoh, i should run spell check, im so sorry it hurt your sensitive eyes.
umbra = paid troll
September 13th, 2007 at 11:49 pmI didn’t say “ownership”. I said up to 80% of the revenues for a long period of time. Since we are sort of occupying their country with over 300,000 troops (including support) and could bomb it back to the stone age any time we felt like it—-they do not have complete freedom to choose.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:50 pmRepublicans are the Fear and Smear Party
September 13th, 2007 at 11:50 pmhmm, paid troll, no sorry, i work for a county government in georgia.
Japanese troops coming home. Japan’s PM resigns. They know how to get things done.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:50 pmKeith
yeah, it was the way you said it. but i guess that dont count
September 13th, 2007 at 11:51 pmtake it easy on him TRoS, sometimes not all my fingers work, either.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:51 pmjb
September 13th, 2007 at 11:52 pmyou aint seen nothing yet, wait till the reorg hits, you might be backtracking
umbra
It figures.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:52 pm“Opens him up to ridicule?”
Oh really? Does Chris actually think his fellow media whores will ridicule our generation’s great American warrior? Will Chris actually ridicule this clown Chimp after this comment to KO? I wonder if any media whore will pick up on this after tonight…
Chris had big balls tonight…let’s see if he remembers it tomorrow…I doubt it.
-
September 13th, 2007 at 11:53 pmRepublicans are the Fear and Smear Party
September 13th, 2007 at 11:53 pmIt figures? You may want to elaberate
What’s a reorg?
September 13th, 2007 at 11:54 pmoh, i should run spell check, im so sorry it hurt your sensitive eyes.
Comment by umbra — September 13, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
Actually, gave me a pretty good laugh. You want to be taken seriously, yet your basic presentation undermines you. YA CAN’T EVEN F-IN’ SPELL…
600 Japanese soldiers who aren’t even allowed to fight? Geez, you’d think repubs would be enlisting in THAT army in droves!
September 13th, 2007 at 11:55 pmjb
September 13th, 2007 at 11:55 pmGreat another idiot, look in the dictionary
how about if I elaborate instead?
September 13th, 2007 at 11:56 pmKeith, you common dreams link,
“The investment vehicle would be the “production sharing agreement,†a long-term contract-up to 40 years-that grants to the company a share of the oil produced; in exchange, the company underwrites the development costs and oilfield infrastructure. Such “investment†is touted by the Bush Administration and its puppets in Iraq as necessary to the country’s recovery, and a huge benefit, accordingly. But it is not unusual for these contracts to grant the companies more than half the profits for the first 15-30 years, and to deny the host country any revenue at all until the investment costs have been recovered.”
Ignores lease rental agreements that can cost millions of dollars per prospect while a company is waiting to produce. The author of your link is a real dumby. Even if it was true that the PSAs were granting more than half of profits (that’s bs) it does not deny host country of other half of profits. Iraq sells the oil and distributes profits per PSA, not the other way around.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:56 pmReorg….not a word.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:57 pmThe republic of Stupidity
I never said i could spell, and unlike you, i didnt call out your misspellings, but if that’s your thing, go for it
September 13th, 2007 at 11:57 pmhmmm, a histrian would know what 600 jap troops could do.
Comment by umbra — September 13, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
Yea, 600 troops in a country of 20 Million. And they pulled out.
There you go America.
There’s what constitutes a successful coalition to a republican.
September 13th, 2007 at 11:59 pmReorg….not a word.
Comment by jb — September 13, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
September 13th, 2007 at 11:59 pmCareful, jb… umbra is sensitve. You don’t want him to take umbrage at your comment, do you?
jb
September 13th, 2007 at 11:59 pmim not gonna help you out on this, if your stupid, i can accept that. if you being coy, ….
Iraqi’s should be free to make agreements with whatever oil companies they choose. Maybe Russian or Chinese would make a better deal or don’t the trolls believe in free market?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:00 amBARTLEBEE
September 14th, 2007 at 12:01 amyeah, 600 jap troops in an atol, with 20,000 us troops invade.
i didnt call out your misspellings, but if that’s your thing, go for it
Comment by umbra — September 13, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Oh, there, there, there, Li’l Buddy. We’re jes’ funsiin here. If ya cain’t take a li’l ribbing, don’t get all gussied up ‘n start postin’ yer nonsense in public. ;-D!!!
September 14th, 2007 at 12:01 amna, im not “funsiin” just responding to your stupidity
September 14th, 2007 at 12:02 amYou’re an idiot umbra. A complete and utter moron.
Go tell the troops to stop complaining because they have 36 countries there with them.
You’re a liar umbra. And not even a very good one.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:03 amThey are frustrated that the Surge worked so well!!!
Comment by Pastor P — September 14, 2007 @ 12:02 am
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Mr P!!! Wearin’ a new dress, er, frock, er sumpin’ different…
September 14th, 2007 at 12:03 amyeah, it was the way you said it. but i guess that dont count
Comment by umbra — September 13, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
I only have control over what I say—-not over what you hear!
September 14th, 2007 at 12:04 amBARTLEBEE
September 14th, 2007 at 12:04 ambased on your post, your something i would call a human, your the dirt under my rug, your the scum in my sink, and i’ll go out on the deck and piss on you.
Reorg…part of the coalition…from star trek. Nice to refer to our coalition soldiers as Jap. Umbra dumbra fell off a wall.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:05 amjb
September 14th, 2007 at 12:06 amfar reaching, stupid, but far reaching. hope you have closure.
See folks? Theres a republicans math for you. Theres that “fuzzy math” they’re so good at. There are nothing but US troops in Iraq right now, and a tiny handful of British troops, but this genius thinks theres a coalition.
He thinks the troops are full of crap for complaining about bearing the brunt of 3, 4 and even 5 tours of duty, because there IS no coalition to offload the duty.
There IS NO COALITION. PERIOD.
Umbra is just a nazi wannabee in here shilling for his supper.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:06 ambased on your post, your something i would call a human, your the dirt under my rug, your the scum in my sink, and i’ll go out on the deck and piss on you.
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:04 am
You’ve mistaken me for you mom.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:07 amTRoS,
September 14th, 2007 at 12:07 amWas umbra the one with the Masters degree in history from Georgetown who doesn’t know the difference between your and you’re—-or there and their?
i’ll go out on the deck and piss on you.
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:04 am
Yeah, I guess he is on fire. Don’t singe your fanny when you squat.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:08 amBARTLEBEE
September 14th, 2007 at 12:08 amagain, you speak from your a$$. if you dont have an idea, dont come here, your stupid, you show it, you know it, and everyone pity”s you.
I think umbra is blowing a gasket.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:09 amjb
September 14th, 2007 at 12:09 amnot a problem, had you in front
BARTLEBEE Na, you’ve not even lit a fire yet, stupididy is easy, you’ve got that pegged.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:11 amI mean CLAIMING the masters in history from Georgetown.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:11 amWhatever umbra’s blowing, I doubt it’s a gasket…
September 14th, 2007 at 12:11 amTrue crude. Unless his dads a gasket.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:12 amumbra, is that right? Did you claim a masters degree in history from Georgetown?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:12 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:12 amcant compete, crude timbit, he has me beat… ha ha
Keith
September 14th, 2007 at 12:13 amcant take the heat, Keith, change the subject. nice
I heard he blew a seal once.
Had to pay the seal $20.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:13 amComment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Talk to Jb dimwit. I didn’t say anything about being on fire. He did.
So liquored up are we that we can’t keep our responses straight?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:13 amTomorrow’s headline:
“28% Of Americans Believe That 36 Nations Have Troops On The Ground In Iraq”
Nah, too long.
“28% Of Americans Still Stupid”
September 14th, 2007 at 12:13 am“has me beat”….freudian slip, I’m thinking…
September 14th, 2007 at 12:14 amumbra makes a good point here…
Comment by Pastor P — September 14, 2007 @ 12:15 am
Yea and if he combs his hair over it maybe no one will notice.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:18 am#
jb
not a problem, had you in front
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:09 am
Oh now I get it, reorg refers to your sex change operation. Congratulations, I hope you can be happy now.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:18 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:18 amyour right, couldnt beat your performance though
New CBS/NYT poll: Bush’s handling of situation in Iraq: 26% Approve
September 14th, 2007 at 12:19 am71% disapprove
Keith
September 14th, 2007 at 12:20 amself appointed polls, congrats, again your wrong
no, you’re wrong.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:21 ambeat your performance……more “code” there, umbra? next you’ll be tapping your foot and waving your hand…
September 14th, 2007 at 12:22 amumbra, did you claim to have a masters degree in history from Georgetown?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:22 amUmbra, you’re wrong. In so many ways.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:23 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:23 amis that code? maybe you would enlighten me?
“enlighten” you? not me, i’m strictly hetero, but i’ll defend your right to an alternate lifestyle…
September 14th, 2007 at 12:25 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:26 amhmmmm, your the one who knows the code
Did Never Never land send Capn Hook as part of the coalition?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:26 amjb
September 14th, 2007 at 12:28 amnot even funny, not even thoughtful, not even a thought.
which code is that, umbra?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:28 amNo but we got Micheal Jackson to open a Neverland ranch outside of Ramadi.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:29 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:29 amyour code, your the one spouting it.
BARTLEBEE
September 14th, 2007 at 12:30 amand you loved it.
not even funny, not even thoughtful, not even a thought.
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:28 am
Thank you….you of course are right. There is absolutely nothing funny about this sham of a coalition and this illegal war of aggression.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:30 amspouting it? oh man, that’s just too funny! again, im hetero, so you really should try someone else.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:31 amjb
September 14th, 2007 at 12:33 ami could say the same thing about you, but i wont, your probablly some smuck who works at mcdonalds and doesnt have a clue about what life is about. oh thank your aunt for giving you the pc.
Your life is a sham.
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:34 amsorry but your the one with the moves, frequenting any restrooms lately?
Umbra, the evangelicals say they can cure that. It might be worth a try, but only if you believe.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:35 amnow you want to know if i frequent any restrooms…sorry, i’m not interesting in meeting with you; kindly accept that fact and ask elsewhere..
September 14th, 2007 at 12:37 amcrude timbit says…
beat your performance……more “code†there, umbra? next you’ll be tapping your foot and waving your hand…
But!
September 14th, 2007 at 12:37 amhe doesnt kno the code
beat your performance……more “code†there, umbra? next you’ll be tapping your foot and waving your hand…
Comment by crude timbit — September 14, 2007 @ 12:22 am
Hmmm, whos the homo here?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:39 amumbra is correct. i really dont know that code, as i am not a part of that…fraternity…
September 14th, 2007 at 12:40 amBush: “If all 36 nations desert us, we’ll ask our friends from other planets to join us; the Borg, Cardassians, Klingons, and Romulans. We know exactly where they are. They’re north, south, east, and west of here.”
September 14th, 2007 at 12:40 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:41 ambut you accused me
Hmmm, whos the homo here?
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:39 am
A phrase you usually say when entering the local pub.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:41 amwho’s the homo here? I think you have pretty well established your credentials here in that respect…
September 14th, 2007 at 12:41 amRepublicans are the Fear and Smear Party
September 14th, 2007 at 12:41 amIs that supposed to be funny?
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:43 amI know you frequent the restrooms, sorry you were raised wrong
Is that supposed to be funny?
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:41 am
A phrase you usually say when at your annual hernia exam.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:44 amcontrariwise, if you’re not here to cruise, what then are you doing here?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:44 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:44 amYou know we’ll allow gay marrages soon, dont despair crude timbit , itll happen and you can be forever happy
I’m guessing that umbra is about 12 years old and his parents don’t know that he’s still awake.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:46 amBush: “If all 36 nations desert us, we’ll ask our friends from other planets to join us; the Borg, Cardassians, Klingons, and Romulans. We know exactly where they are. They’re north, south, east, and west of here.â€
Comment by Republicans are the Fear and Smear Party — September 14, 2007 @ 12:40 am
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Republicans are the Fear and Smear Party
Is that supposed to be funny?
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Actually, I got a chuckle out of it. :)
September 14th, 2007 at 12:47 amumbra has chosen the “i know you are but what am i” tack…you really aren’t very good at this troll business, are you?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:47 amBARTLEBEE
September 14th, 2007 at 12:47 amnot worth answering, stupid level just dropped below 2
itll happen and you can be forever happy
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:44 am
He told you he doesn’t swing that way. Maybe you could try Ted Haggard. I hear he’s looking again.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:47 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:48 amCount the number of im a hetro’s above, then tell me your’re not how did you say it, foot tapping? your so cute
BARTLEBEE
not worth answering, stupid level just dropped below 2
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:47 am
Ok.
Well when your stupid level climbs above 2 let us know and we’ll try again.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:49 amumbra must be a troll newbie. Try blaming Clinton, umb.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:50 amBARTLEBEE
September 14th, 2007 at 12:50 amyou might want to hook up with crude timbit, he has your style
umbra thinks im so cute…well, what’s your verdict on him, everyone? sounds like a slam-dunk case closed to me…
September 14th, 2007 at 12:51 amRepublicans are the Fear and Smear Party
September 14th, 2007 at 12:51 amSorry
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:51 amyour the one talking about tapping foots
not exactly umbra. i’m the one saying im hetero and not interested in you, and you’re the one calling me cute…see the difference?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:53 amSorry
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:51 am
Theres a good start. Now say 1,000,000 hail Mary’s, genuflex 800,000 times with a machete, and don’t ever do it again.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:54 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 12:54 amnever called you cute, nothing to compare you to. your the one talking about foot tapping. interesting occupation.
BARTLEBEE
September 14th, 2007 at 12:56 amdont remember you being in that particular conversation
crude timbit
Count the number of im a hetro’s above, then tell me your’re not how did you say it, foot tapping? your so cute
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:48 am
never called me cute? someone’s in denial…..
September 14th, 2007 at 12:56 amumbra…apology accepted. Just don’t do it again.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:56 amoh, about your denial sendrome
September 14th, 2007 at 12:56 amits right there above, umbra. you said “your so cute” to me. perhaps that has some other meaning than the obvious one. if so, would you care to explain?
September 14th, 2007 at 12:59 amRepublicans are the Fear and Smear Party
September 14th, 2007 at 1:01 amI dont blame the clintons for anything, nor do i blame any presidents, they are victims, stupid as they are.
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:03 amdo you want me to call you cute, or your remarks cute, sorry, but i definately will avoid any restroom you will frequent as im not sure your not a homo rapists.
its right there above, all your denials as well, hmmm rather strong i would say, you sure those are right
September 14th, 2007 at 1:04 amin posting #171 you called me cute; it’s there for everyone to read. unless you choose to clarify why you would make such a statement, it seems safe to assume that you were trying to hit on me. again, i will tell you that i am hetero, and not interested in meeting with you.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:07 amtp is editing again…now its #170, but still there for all to see…
September 14th, 2007 at 1:09 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:11 amYour choice, hit on you?, i doubt anyone would hit on you. Maybe not even buy you a drink, your so stupid timbit that this is laughable.
Do you need money? I can send you some. Stay away from the public restrooms, I will enforce the pedo rules.
This is all poppycoke and tome foolloery. I do believe.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:11 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:12 amyou are
now umbra is offering me money. this guy just doesn’t know how to take no for an answer, does he?
September 14th, 2007 at 1:12 amCount the number of im a hetro’s above, then tell me your’re not how did you say it, foot tapping? your so cute
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 12:48 am
never called me cute? someone’s in denial…..
September 14th, 2007 at 1:13 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:14 amSo fool, you sent me a picture right. and you asked me to comment on it. keep going with the cute, stupid;.
by the by fake poster, the words are poppycock and tomfoolery…note the usage of poppycock given the context on the thread at this time…another freudian sliip…
September 14th, 2007 at 1:15 amThis is so gay!
September 14th, 2007 at 1:16 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:16 amis a 99 year old fool. and can barely type, he wants me to meet him in the restroom in denver
rude timbit
So fool, you sent me a picture right. and you asked me to comment on it. keep going with the cute, stupid;.
Comment by umbra — September 14, 2007 @ 1:14 am
and so he calls me cute yet again…
September 14th, 2007 at 1:16 amThat’s all the libs can do these days… make inane jokes.
Comment by Master P
Your right, thats why im moving to aruba, they might get in power
September 14th, 2007 at 1:19 amit seems i have unintentionally got umbra aroused…you really must understand that i have no interest in meeting you umbra; you will have to look somewhere else…
September 14th, 2007 at 1:19 amrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:20 amRight, Your a fool, keep fooling yourself
read your posting #170 again umbra and ask yourself who is really fooling himself?
September 14th, 2007 at 1:21 amit seems i have unintentionally got umbra aroused…you really must understand that i have no interest in meeting you umbra; you will have to look somewhere else…
Comment by crude timbit — September 14, 2007 @ 1:19 am
How stupid can this person be?
September 14th, 2007 at 1:23 amill ask you again umbra; why did you say ‘your so cute’ to me in your posting #170? are you ashamed to answer?
September 14th, 2007 at 1:24 amscroll back up umbra; nowhere have i said i was cute. it was you, in fact, who in #170 said i was cute. why did you say that? again, are you too ashamed of yourself to explain what you meant by that?
September 14th, 2007 at 1:31 amAlex I agree we need vets involved. This Saturday there is a March being led by the vet organization IVAW. I and three other vets are leaving Illinois today for DC. The site is
September 14th, 2007 at 1:32 amShow up and express your disgust for the man and his reckless policies.
M. Jenkins
September 14th, 2007 at 1:34 amAlex I agree we need vets involved.
Im a vet, and i disagree totally
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:40 amyeah, hes so cute, because he’s so STUPID
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:41 amC’mon stupid
evidently umbra lacks the wherewithal to explain his “your so cute” comment to me in #170. hardly surprising, is it? nite all…
September 14th, 2007 at 1:42 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:43 amI have to go to work at 8 in the morning, your a moron, its 2 am here, you have nothing to do, lets get it on.
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:44 amso you sent me your picture?
now he wants to “get it on” with me. case closed on this guy.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:45 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:46 amsent me his picture, anyone want it?
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:48 amcant handle it, wants to make it sexual
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:48 ambut he cant
pathetic crop of trolls this year, huh? hey umbra, scroll back up and see what a clown youre going to seem to everyone here.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:48 amcant “handle” it…what is this, an umbra double-entendre hit parade?
September 14th, 2007 at 1:50 amcrude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:51 amyeah your pathetic, your so stupid, you dont think people can scroll back, so, tell the nice people here how and why i told you were cute?
crude timbit
September 14th, 2007 at 1:53 amyour pathetic