Comments on: Matthews: Bush’s claim of ‘36 countries’ in Iraq is ‘ludicrous.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:47:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: terryballard http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4085807 terryballard Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:11:04 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4085807 According to the Brookings Institution, there are only 7 countries, besides ourselves, with troops on the ground. Only 3 of those have 1000 or more, although Australia just misses. The number 36 is BushSpeak. According to the Brookings Institution, there are only 7 countries, besides ourselves, with troops on the ground. Only 3 of those have 1000 or more, although Australia just misses. The number 36 is BushSpeak.

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4077655 Exley Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:05:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4077655 'The AP reports that with 168,000 troops, the United States has “the overwhelming majority of troops” in Iraq.' WOW! What a scoop! Great reporting there, AP! Get those people a Pulitzer! ‘The AP reports that with 168,000 troops, the United States has “the overwhelming majority of troops” in Iraq.’

WOW! What a scoop! Great reporting there, AP! Get those people a Pulitzer!

]]> By: daveinboca http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4077442 daveinboca Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:43:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4077442 Jake D. You're right about most Dems never checking facts unless they fit into the delusional loo-zer mindset these quislings always adopt. GWB could have given a Churchillian "we will fight them on the beaches..." or a Gettysburg Address equivalent. These agit-preppies would still spit "BS" and throw feces [verbal] as is their lower primate habit. Jake D. You’re right about most Dems never checking facts unless they fit into the delusional loo-zer mindset these quislings always adopt.

GWB could have given a Churchillian “we will fight them on the beaches…” or a Gettysburg Address equivalent. These agit-preppies would still spit “BS” and throw feces [verbal] as is their lower primate habit.

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4077242 Jake D. Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:25:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4077242 Here are MORE than 36 countries (I know Spain is out currently, but I'm not sure which others have pulled out): Australia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Ukraine, United Kingdom, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Singapore, Georgia, Japan, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, and the member countries of the NATO, MNFI, and UN. Is CNN correct about it being fewer than 25? I bet most Americans didn't even know there were 25. Here are MORE than 36 countries (I know Spain is out currently, but I’m not sure which others have pulled out): Australia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Ukraine, United Kingdom, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Singapore, Georgia, Japan, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, and the member countries of the NATO, MNFI, and UN. Is CNN correct about it being fewer than 25? I bet most Americans didn’t even know there were 25.

]]> By: Com_n_sense http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4077042 Com_n_sense Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:01:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4077042 Does this include the monkeys one country wanted to send to find IED's? Does this include the monkeys one country wanted to send to find IED’s?

]]> By: jake3988 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4076787 jake3988 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:44:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076787 Chris Matthews, Mr. Conservative, has slammed Bush what, twice now in a week? Impressive my man. Chris Matthews, Mr. Conservative, has slammed Bush what, twice now in a week?

Impressive my man.

]]> By: knowbuddhau http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4076645 knowbuddhau Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:13:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076645 Umbra, TRoS, Bartlebee, and all the rest: Your juvenile name-calling is out of place. What gives? I didn't think personal attacks were allowed. I've heard better debates on playgrounds. You spray your pissy thoughts so much, you all make this board stink. Your pissing matches destroy continuity achieved between participants. Don't any of you have the self-discipline not to debase yourselves when called a name? Or are you such wee little vessels that every ripple nearly capsizes you? Can you not keep an even keel? Do us all a favor: switch to decaffeinated already! I come here for informed debate, not locker room mentality. Umbra, TRoS, Bartlebee, and all the rest:
Your juvenile name-calling is out of place. What gives? I didn’t think personal attacks were allowed. I’ve heard better debates on playgrounds. You spray your pissy thoughts so much, you all make this board stink. Your pissing matches destroy continuity achieved between participants.

Don’t any of you have the self-discipline not to debase yourselves when called a name? Or are you such wee little vessels that every ripple nearly capsizes you? Can you not keep an even keel?

Do us all a favor: switch to decaffeinated already!

I come here for informed debate, not locker room mentality.

]]> By: phinga bheng http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4076581 phinga bheng Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:53:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076581 SEE POST #49. See State Dept Iraq Weekly Status Report for details. SEE POST #49. See State Dept Iraq Weekly Status Report for details.

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4076504 Jake D. Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:37:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076504 Has anyone at the White House listed all 36 countries yet? Has anyone at the White House listed all 36 countries yet?

]]> By: JimBob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-6/#comment-4076429 JimBob Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:17:29 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076429 Cynicon Implant (love that handle) you're wrong. You can parse his grammar all day and night, but the implication was definitely that there's this big coalition. And it isn't a matter of luck that the Albanians, et al. haven't had casualties, Jake -- the honchos are very careful to keep them out of the line of fire so they don't pack up and go home. Cynicon Implant (love that handle) you’re wrong. You can parse his grammar all day and night, but the implication was definitely that there’s this big coalition. And it isn’t a matter of luck that the Albanians, et al. haven’t had casualties, Jake — the honchos are very careful to keep them out of the line of fire so they don’t pack up and go home.

]]> By: JimBob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076423 JimBob Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:15:34 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076423 Ridicule doesn't bother GWB. He's made his friends richer than ever, and they're gonna party like none other when he gets out of office. He could care less what you and I think of him. Ridicule doesn’t bother GWB. He’s made his friends richer than ever, and they’re gonna party like none other when he gets out of office. He could care less what you and I think of him.

]]> By: Cynicon Implant http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076413 Cynicon Implant Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:08:49 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076413 Matthews is off target on this one. All Bush said is that he wanted to thank the 36 countries who have some troops there. That's it. He did not say that we are one of 36 countries there nor did he imply that it was a balanced commitment of troops. Of course it is not. Matthews is off target on this one. All Bush said is that he wanted to thank the 36 countries who have some troops there. That’s it. He did not say that we are one of 36 countries there nor did he imply that it was a balanced commitment of troops. Of course it is not.

]]> By: Naturalized http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076390 Naturalized Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:50:35 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076390 ChrisM, is doing nothing but scoring points for his own show. Remember "I love this man (GW)" during Mission Accomplish flight? he has his own show, why don't he invite those who defend war strategy and pose some real tough question rather than reiterating same nonsense that we all know very well. ChrisM, is doing nothing but scoring points for his own show.

Remember “I love this man (GW)” during Mission Accomplish flight?

he has his own show, why don’t he invite those who defend war strategy and pose some real tough question rather than reiterating same nonsense that we all know very well.

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076372 Jake D. Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:35:43 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076372 Luckily, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Singapore, Georgia, Japan, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, and Mongolia have not had any casualties in Iraq. Luckily, Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Singapore, Georgia, Japan, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, and Mongolia have not had any casualties in Iraq.

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076368 Jake D. Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:31:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076368 And, here are the official, non-classified casualties of other Coalition Countries: Australia 2 Bulgaria 13 Czech Republic 1 Denmark 7 El Salvador 5 Estonia 2 Hungary 1 Italy 33 Kazakhstan 1 Latvia 3 Netherlands 2 Poland 21 Romania 2 Slovakia 4 South Korea 1 Spain 11 Thailand 2 Ukraine 18 United Kingdom 169 http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx And, here are the official, non-classified casualties of other Coalition Countries:

Australia 2
Bulgaria 13
Czech Republic 1
Denmark 7
El Salvador 5
Estonia 2
Hungary 1
Italy 33
Kazakhstan 1
Latvia 3
Netherlands 2
Poland 21
Romania 2
Slovakia 4
South Korea 1
Spain 11
Thailand 2
Ukraine 18
United Kingdom 169

http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076363 Jake D. Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:28:01 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076363 Here's one of the worse-case scenarios (and if we prevent another 9/11, it will be worth it): http://www.chycho.com/Iraq_American_Death_Count_2017.jpg Here’s one of the worse-case scenarios (and if we prevent another 9/11, it will be worth it): http://www.chycho.com/Iraq_American_Death_Count_2017.jpg

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076355 Jake D. Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:24:03 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076355 For the record, Valerie Plame was officially "inexistent" before Novak outed her as well. For the record, Valerie Plame was officially “inexistent” before Novak outed her as well.

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076353 Evil Spaniard Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:21:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076353 <em>I’ve only found 27 (perhaps the other 6 countries have “classified” troops involved?). I doubt the President would lie about 33 if the real number were only 27. Close enough for me. Comment by Jake D. — September 14, 2007 @ 9:15 am</em> Yep, "classified" as "inexistent". I’ve only found 27 (perhaps the other 6 countries have “classified” troops involved?). I doubt the President would lie about 33 if the real number were only 27. Close enough for me.

Comment by Jake D. — September 14, 2007 @ 9:15 am

Yep, “classified” as “inexistent”.

]]> By: Jake D. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076346 Jake D. Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:15:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076346 I've only found 27 (perhaps the other 6 countries have "classified" troops involved?). I doubt the President would lie about 33 if the real number were only 27. Close enough for me. I’ve only found 27 (perhaps the other 6 countries have “classified” troops involved?). I doubt the President would lie about 33 if the real number were only 27. Close enough for me.

]]> By: Menehune http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/comment-page-5/#comment-4076337 Menehune Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:20:06 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/13/matthews-bushs-claim-of-36-countries-in-iraq-is-ludicrous/#comment-4076337 ...and Jamaica sent one lunchlady for the Green Zone cafeteria. Don't forget that! …and Jamaica sent one lunchlady for the Green Zone cafeteria. Don’t forget that!

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