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By Amanda Terkel on Sep 14th, 2007 at 10:09 am

12:

Number of times President Bush referenced al Qaeda in his Iraq speech last night, which lasted just under 18 minutes. A recent Congressional Research Service concluded that attacks from al Qaeda are only a small percentage of the violence in Iraq.



42 Responses to “12:”

  1. Fan_of_Man says:

    bush emboldens & endorses al qaeda and acts as the biggest recruiter for them too!


  2. bobh says:

    like republicans assume all democrats are traitors bush assumes all arabs are al qaida


  3. raynman says:

    Yeah, but fighting al Qaeda sounds so much better than sinking into the quagmire from hell


  4. troqua says:

    Number of times the word “victory” appeared in the speech: 0

    Number of times the word “success” appeared in the speech: 10


  5. TheToonguy says:

    Because Bush knows that reminding his shrinking base of the boogey man will keep them in line. Right, trolls?


  6. r says:

    “even though most of the daily attacks are carried out by Iraqi Sunni insurgents.”

    If this is true, it shoots BIG holes in the British poll of civilian deaths.

    A new survey by a British polling agency suggests that the Iraqi civilian death toll from the war could be more than 1.2 million. The agency said it drew its conclusion from responses to the question about those living under one roof: “How many members of your household, if any, have died as a result of the conflict in Iraq since 2003?”


  7. WaltinTexas says:

    It’s one of his tricks he was taught by KKKarl. I can’t remember Bush’s quote exactly, but to paraphrase, it’s something like- You just keep repeating the propaganda until it’s believed as truth. And there’s a gullible 20something percent out there that it’s still working on.


  8. Sheller of the Clams says:

    like republicans assume all democrats are traitors

    Not assume, ‘know’.


  9. LibTeenie says:

    Because Bush knows that reminding his shrinking base of the boogey man will keep them in line. Right, trolls?

    Thats right, which is why Im puzzled that Obama would be willing to invade a sovereign nation and ally in search of a bogeyman.


  10. troqua says:

    Comment by WaltinTexas — September 14, 2007 @ 10:20 am

    “See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” – Bush

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.” – Goebbels


  11. nanlichi says:

    Where do all these insurgents come from? When we went into Iraq to kickstart Boy George’s legacy there were no Al Qaeda in Iraq and now we kill 1,500/month according to Chimpf*ck.

    It’s like swatting bees. When you kill a bee it releases a pheremone that signals the other bees that there is an intruder, so they come to help. The more you kill, the more swarm out of the nest. Pretty soon you are killing 1,500 per month. So busy “kicking ass” that you can’t remember what the f*ck you were doing in the first place.


  12. bobh says:

    #

    like republicans assume all democrats are traitors

    Not assume, ‘know’.

    Comment by Sheller of the Clams — September 14, 2007 @ 10:20 am

    i rest my case


  13. toasterhead says:

    “even though most of the daily attacks are carried out by Iraqi Sunni insurgents.”

    If this is true, it shoots BIG holes in the British poll of civilian deaths.

    Comment by r — September 14, 2007 @ 10:20 am

    How?


  14. bobh says:

    Where do all these insurgents come from? When we went into Iraq to kickstart Boy George’s legacy there were no Al Qaeda in Iraq and now we kill 1,500/month according to Chimpf*ck.

    its the sunni iraqi army come back to say:

    “see? you should have paid my salary dickweed.”


  15. LividLib says:

    exactly why i didn’t watch that sack-of-sh_t last night.
    if he’s not distorting the truth, he’s flat-out lying.
    amazing 20-some percent of the populace still support this bastard.


  16. Keith H. says:

    Junior Bush is in love with al Qaeda and his war on terrah.
    I mean, he knew 911 was coming, and he knew who he was going to blame it on.
    Next he’ll say that al Qaeda are in possession of Saddam’s massive stockpile of wmds that he didn’t find under his desk.
    There’s only one other person alive that deserves to get theirs more than this A$$hole . . . that’s his Uncle Dick.


  17. BARTLEBEE says:

    Well I watched him last night. And the black suit made him look like a Nazi officer, which is fitting, considering he’s decided he is a supreme dictator.


  18. VerbalKint says:

    gotta keep the bedwetters scared

    Stay The Course(TM)


  19. Zimzone says:

    Bush = Burned Out, Tired & Lonely


  20. r says:

    How?

    Comment by toasterhead — September 14, 2007 @ 10:27 am

    You answered on the last thread.

    I don’t consider insurgents – people trying to kill US military troops – as civilians, but I guess you do.


  21. BARTLEBEE says:

    Whats amazing is he just continued with the lies. He once again tied Iraq to 911. Fortunately regular newspeople like Brian Williams and Tim Russert pointed out the fictitous nature of that comparison. But he still insisted on repeating the same tired lies that everyone is hip to.


  22. bobh says:

    look up the concept of pyrric victory and get back to me


  23. bobh says:

    spelling phyrric, sry


  24. BARTLEBEE says:

    An American defeat in Iraq is a victory for al qaeda. Why is that so hard for anti-American leftist to comprehend?

    Comment by TP = Al Qaeda’s Girlfriend — September 14, 2007 @ 10:43 am

    An American invasion into Iraq is a victory for al qaeda. Why is that so hard for the neonazi rightwinger to comprehend?


  25. Jake D. says:

    Just like the “fictitious nature” of comparing Japan to North Africa — what happened to you Democrats — at least FDR knew how to fight a multi-front war.


  26. A Patriot Acting says:

    WaltinTexas-

    KKKarl didn’t come up with that phrase. The GOP’s mantra comes from fairly predictable sources:

    “The people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. All you have to do is tell them that they are in danger of being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”

    HERMANN GOERING
    German Nazi marshal & politician (1893 – 1946)

    AND:

    “By means of shrewd lies, unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell — and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed. ”

    Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf

    The GOP takes many pages from the Nazi rulebook, they realized long ago that when the truth isn’t on your side, propaganda can be an incredibly useful tool.. Not that the MSM or their pathetic 28% base would ever pull their collective heads out of each others asses long enough to give it any thought. What bothers me most is that all those moderate Republicans aren’t seeking truth, they’re simply looking for excuses to not side with the Dems. Sadly all those Repubs that were so critical of the surge in the beginning will most likely side with Patreus/Bush’s assessment regardless of the mountain of dissenting views from Patreus’ boss, all the generals that Bush tossed aside, the GAO report, the soldiers on the ground (who have been blocked from viewing TP on their computers) and just plain old common sense. They and the rest of this nation have been burned by Bush’s lies for almost 7 years now and yet still believe beyond hope that he’s not USING them once more. The GOP base in this country while such a small minority, has such a stranglehold on this nation via their manipulation of the MSM, their coup over our Justice system at every level, the endless propaganda spin machine that spoon feeds the public a steady stream of fear and outright lies all at the unfortunate expense of our troops, our economy, our foreign public opinion and our hobbled Constitution. Sadly in spite of all the facts to the contrary, these “on the fence” Repubs will tow the line for their lame duck boss and the nation will be the worse of for it. Aren’t there ANY Repubs with a TRUE sense of patriotism left in this country and why the Hell can’t they, with the actual TRUTH on their side, convince these old fools to stop obstructing progress and use the powers given to them by the people to do the peolpl’e work? 70% wan’t this war OVER yet these old fools pander to their crumbling base. Truly dispicable and disheartening to anyone who truly cares for the future of this great nation.


  27. BARTLEBEE says:

    Yea. Too bad Bush doesn’t, huh?


  28. toasterhead says:

    I don’t consider insurgents – people trying to kill US military troops – as civilians, but I guess you do.

    Comment by r — September 14, 2007 @ 10:40 am

    They wouldn’t be “insurgents” without the invasion. And since we consider an unarmed person carrying an IAI pamphlet an “insurgent,” I don’t trust a statistic that attempts to assign insurgent status based on subjective media reports. Needless deaths are needless deaths, and every violent death in Iraq since April 2003 is a needless death.


  29. LividLib says:

    An American defeat in ______ is a victory for al qaeda. Why is that so hard for anti-American leftist to comprehend?

    Comment by Dumbass’ Girlfriend — September 14, 2007 @ 10:43 am

    Fill in the blank.
    BTW, you forgot the “we’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here” part.
    just another lemming!


  30. toasterhead says:

    An American defeat in Iraq is a victory for al qaeda. Why is that so hard for anti-American leftist to comprehend?

    Comment by TP = Al Qaeda’s Girlfriend — September 14, 2007 @ 10:43 am

    Actually, bankrupting America by an unending occupation in Iraq is a victory for al-Qa’ida, just as bankrupting the Soviet Union was a victory for the mujaheddin in Afghanistan. Why is it so hard for conservatives to comprehend history?


  31. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Just like the “fictitious nature” of comparing Japan to North Africa — what happened to you Democrats — at least FDR knew how to fight a multi-front war.

    Comment by Jake D. — September 14, 2007 @ 10:46 am

    Kind of a complete non sequiter, but hey, it’s Jerk D!


  32. A Patriot Acting says:

    100% correct, toasterhead!


  33. bobh says:

    because history is what they are told by the great leader, not what actually happens


  34. BARTLEBEE says:

    One of the real problems created by our precipitous and ill advised invasion of Iraq, is the loss of credibility on the international front with regards to the war on terror. The fact is we may need to go into a country to attack Al Quaida for real. And our mistaken attack on Iraq has made that much more diffcult. The internation community is not going to just sit back forever while America rides rough shot over half the globe trying to get a small group of poorly organized ill equipped terrorists.

    Iraq was a mistake. Iraq was lost the day we went in. And the sooner the republoscum realize this the better off we’ll be.


  35. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Iran was referenced five times:

    “One year ago, Shia extremists and Iranian-backed militants were gaining strength and targeting Sunnis for assassination.”

    “A free Iraq will counter the destructive ambitions of Iran.”

    “If we were to be driven out of Iraq, extremists of all strains would be emboldened. Al Qaeda could gain new recruits and new sanctuaries. Iran would benefit from the chaos and would be encouraged in its efforts to gain nuclear weapons and dominate the region.”

    “We should be able to agree that we must defeat al Qaeda, counter Iran, help the Afghan government, work for peace in the Holy Land, and strengthen our military so we can prevail in the struggle against terrorists and extremists.”

    “To Iraq’s neighbors who seek peace: The violent extremists who target Iraq are also targeting you. The best way to secure your interests and protect your own people is to stand with the people of Iraq. That means using your economic and diplomatic leverage to strengthen the government in Baghdad. And it means the efforts by Iran and Syria to undermine that government must end.”

    Beat those drums, Chimpy…beat those drums.


  36. Chris L says:

    Beat those drums, Chimpy…beat those drums.

    Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 14, 2007 @ 11:06 am
    #

    You’ll notice that when he references Al-Qaeda he does not mention that they are Sunni, or that they are supported by Saudi. I think he is trying to tie Iran to Al-Qaeda in the minds of the average American.


  37. Jay Randal says:

    Dubya Spews Baloney About Iraq
    14th of September 2007
    by Jay Randal

    The best way to sum up Pres. Bush’s speech last night: 100% concocted baloney, twisted lies, and he did not utter single word of truth about the present situation.

    Bush said token 5,700 troops would return home, by Christmas of this year, plus back to pre-surge level of 130,000+ soldiers left in Iraq before election next year.

    He basically is kicking the can down the road for the next President, so leaving his Iraq Fiasco Occupation unresolved, and alluding to a long term commitment.

    He purposely avoided telling American citizenry that controlling Iraq’s OIL reserves is the main reason US remains in Iraq and refuses to terminate the occupation.

    His refusal to tell the truth is a serious infraction, but he expects the press to accept his lies and the Congress to keep funding his debacle, therefore no real changes in Iraq policy for the rest of his term in the presidency.

    (Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)


  38. Krazny says:

    You could almost smell the desperation pouring from Bush. The whole speech was about terrorists, and be afraid. I listened to it while making dinner.


  39. RepublicansAreFascists says:

    “Bush and Al Qaeda, workin’ hard together to build YOUR future.”


  40. LosingFaith says:

    “I don’t consider insurgents – people trying to kill US military troops – as civilians, but I guess you do.

    Comment by r — September 14, 2007 @ 10:40 am”

    You’re still making no sense. What does “even though most of the daily attacks are carried out by Iraqi Sunni insurgents.” have to do with adding doubt to “A new survey by a British polling agency suggests that the Iraqi civilian death toll from the war could be more than 1.2 million.” Whether insurgents are civilians or not has no affect on that number or how it was determined.


  41. Keltoi says:

    Iraq was a mistake. Iraq was lost the day we went in. And the sooner the republoscum realize this the better off we’ll be.

    Comment by BARTLEBEE — September 14, 2007 @ 11:04 am

    Here is a great quote to back you up, B.

    “A day will come that the current U.S. president and officials will be tried in an international supreme court for the catastrophes they caused in Iraq. Americans will have to answer for why they don’t end occupation of Iraq and why waves of terrorism and insurgency have overwhelmed the country. It will not be like this forever and some day they will be stopped as happened to Hitler, Saddam and certain other European leaders. More than four years have passed since the occupation of Iraq and today everyone knows that America has failed and is frantically looking for a way out”

    Any idea who said it?


  42. big papa says:

    Your gods Bushiva andL’il Dick…

    …could call a press conference…

    …squat and SH*T on prime time televison…

    …and the stupid a*s AmeriKKKan public…

    …would lap it up…

    …in any other country on Earth…

    …Bushiva and L’il Dick would be in prison…

    …fearing for their (and their families’) futures…



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