Comments on: Video Compilation: ‘Loyal Bushies’ Throw Lavish Farewell Ceremony For Alberto Gonzales http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: upright left http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4079357 upright left Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:45:53 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4079357 Comment by Slush Puppy — September 16, 2007 @ 5:55 pm I've seen it enough that I'm not surprised it's popluar with the TP prog crowd. And the smurfs are certainly a lot cleaner. Interesting comparison, though. Cartoons are cartoons, right? ;) Comment by Slush Puppy — September 16, 2007 @ 5:55 pm

I’ve seen it enough that I’m not surprised it’s popluar with the TP prog crowd. And the smurfs are certainly a lot cleaner. Interesting comparison, though. Cartoons are cartoons, right? ;)

]]> By: Slush Puppy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4079188 Slush Puppy Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:55:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4079188 Otherwise, reasonably decent people couldn’t justify watching it. It’s not really something to brag about, though. ;) Comment by upright left I'm guessing you might watch it then? If it didn't pre-empt American Idle or the Smurfs? Otherwise, reasonably decent people couldn’t justify watching it. It’s not really something to brag about, though. ;)

Comment by upright left

I’m guessing you might watch it then?
If it didn’t pre-empt American Idle or the Smurfs?

]]> By: upright left http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4079003 upright left Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:16:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4079003 The initiative has been given backing across the Church, with the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams speaking of his adoration of the show. Comment by dbadass — September 15, 2007 @ 7:02 pm That would be what is kown as "reaching people where they are." They are attempting to take the small protion of the program that shows some sense of morality and using it to lead people. Obviously, the show has to have some positive elements. Otherwise, reasonably decent people couldn't justify watching it. It's not really something to brag about, though. ;) The initiative has been given backing across the Church, with the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams speaking of his adoration of the show.

Comment by dbadass — September 15, 2007 @ 7:02 pm

That would be what is kown as “reaching people where they are.” They are attempting to take the small protion of the program that shows some sense of morality and using it to lead people. Obviously, the show has to have some positive elements. Otherwise, reasonably decent people couldn’t justify watching it. It’s not really something to brag about, though. ;)

]]> By: bluseahorse http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078877 bluseahorse Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:43:08 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078877 TORTURE, TORTURE, TORTURE = is a gentle, but firm hand on the tiller????? Also, WIRETAPPING is a gentle, but firm hand????? The woman who mentioned you have to fill and refill a stadium 9 times for all the teenagers no longer taking drugs (because of Gonzo)???? are they nuts? === I have to agree., the teenagers are no longer taking the drugs., because, unfortunately, their parents are taking them to get through the pain of what this little toad has done to the world, including the USA. I think everyone in that room must be on some sort of drug! (I do not intend to mock teenagers on drugs, believe me) --- but this being could care less. And I just cannot take these lies. And I am sick of "let us pray to the Lord" nonsense. Gonzo believes in "the Lord" like I believe in Santa Claus. TORTURE, TORTURE, TORTURE = is a gentle, but firm hand on the tiller?????
Also, WIRETAPPING is a gentle, but firm hand????? The woman who mentioned you have to fill and refill a stadium 9 times for all the teenagers no longer taking drugs (because of Gonzo)???? are they nuts? === I have to agree.,
the teenagers are no longer taking the drugs., because, unfortunately,
their parents are taking them to get through the pain of what this little
toad has done to the world, including the USA. I think everyone in that room must be on some sort of drug! (I do not intend to mock teenagers on drugs, believe me) — but this being could care less. And I just cannot take these lies. And I am sick of “let us pray to the Lord” nonsense. Gonzo believes in “the Lord” like I believe in Santa Claus.

]]> By: bluseahorse http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078870 bluseahorse Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:30:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078870 The only "hundreds of people" who were saved from hell, are the ones who sold their souls and did Bush & Cheney's (particularly Cheney's) bidding! Namely everyone giving praise to Gonzo, let alone Gonzo himself. The rest of us billions were and still are and will remain in hell, until the mess this administration has created is straightened out - unfortunately, that may take many, many years. thanks a lot, GONZO = YOU LITTLE TWERT (I am trying to remain classy on this board). The only “hundreds of people” who were saved from hell, are the ones who sold their souls and did Bush & Cheney’s (particularly Cheney’s) bidding! Namely everyone giving praise to Gonzo, let alone Gonzo himself. The rest of us billions were and still are and will remain in hell, until the mess this administration has created is straightened out –
unfortunately, that may take many, many years. thanks a lot, GONZO = YOU LITTLE TWERT (I am trying to remain classy on this board).

]]> By: PFT http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078830 PFT Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:20:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078830 His acting replacement is Paul Clement, and he does not use notes when speaking, thats a plus. Some of the cases he has argued. Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: Clement lost this case on whether military commissions for Guantánamo Bay detainees are authorized under U.S. and international law. Rumsfeld v. Padilla: In a 5-4 decision, the Court agreed with Clement’s argument that a U.S. citizen captured on American soil and designated as an enemy combatant can be detained by the military. Hamdi v. Rumsfeld: The Court upheld the right of a U.S. citizen who was captured overseas and detained in the United States as an enemy combatant to contest his detention in U.S. courts. Clement argued against that right. Glad he is in charge to make sure the Protect American Act is not abused. Can't imagine Bush would want him the be subjected to confirmation hearings, a lot of tough questions would be asked, he is also supervising the investigations into the AG firings and knows who knew what when, so something tells me he is the acting AG until 2009 and will not be nominated. Although now that he can approve wiretapping of anyone w/o a court order, maybe congress would be scared off and not ask any tough questions, so maybe not, His acting replacement is Paul Clement, and he does not use notes when speaking, thats a plus. Some of the cases he has argued.

Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: Clement lost this case on whether military commissions for Guantánamo Bay detainees are authorized under U.S. and international law.

Rumsfeld v. Padilla: In a 5-4 decision, the Court agreed with Clement’s argument that a U.S. citizen captured on American soil and designated as an enemy combatant can be detained by the military.

Hamdi v. Rumsfeld: The Court upheld the right of a U.S. citizen who was captured overseas and detained in the United States as an enemy combatant to contest his detention in U.S. courts. Clement argued against that right.

Glad he is in charge to make sure the Protect American Act is not abused.

Can’t imagine Bush would want him the be subjected to confirmation hearings, a lot of tough questions would be asked, he is also supervising the investigations into the AG firings and knows who knew what when, so something tells me he is the acting AG until 2009 and will not be nominated.
Although now that he can approve wiretapping of anyone w/o a court order, maybe congress would be scared off and not ask any tough questions, so maybe not,

]]> By: drieva http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078685 drieva Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:52:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078685 The man has to look at his <em>written</em> notes 3 times to say he appreciates the dedicated men and women of the Justice Department. Says volumes about this guy that he can't even get a simple sentence like that out without reading it. I'd say I'm glad he's gone (and I am) but now we face the next idiot Chimpy will try to install. sheesh, Jan 20 2009 can't come too soon. The man has to look at his written notes 3 times to say he appreciates the dedicated men and women of the Justice Department. Says volumes about this guy that he can’t even get a simple sentence like that out without reading it. I’d say I’m glad he’s gone (and I am) but now we face the next idiot Chimpy will try to install. sheesh, Jan 20 2009 can’t come too soon.

]]> By: DDuck http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078682 DDuck Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:50:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078682 <strong> “[H]undreds of innocent human beings have been freed from an unimaginable hell on Earth.”</strong> . . . did they mean the "millions" of Americans that no longer have Alberto to shred civil liberties and promote torture? What a pack of schmucks licking his turd-blossomed boots. This country has indeed been attacked by invaders, not by illegal immigrants, but by these neocons. “[H]undreds of innocent human beings have been freed from an unimaginable hell on Earth.”

. . . did they mean the “millions” of Americans that no longer have Alberto to shred civil liberties and promote torture?

What a pack of schmucks licking his turd-blossomed boots. This country has indeed been attacked by invaders, not by illegal immigrants, but by these neocons.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078526 Marie Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:04:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078526 Over the past two and a half years, I have seen tyranny, dishonesty, corruption and depravity of types I never thought possible," Gonzales said in prepared remarks at a Hispanic Heritage Month ceremony at Bolling Air Force Base. "I've seen things I didn't know man was capable of. He must have been referring to everyone in the Bush Admin. Over the past two and a half years, I have seen tyranny, dishonesty, corruption and depravity of types I never thought possible,” Gonzales said in prepared remarks at a Hispanic Heritage Month ceremony at Bolling Air Force Base. “I’ve seen things I didn’t know man was capable of.

He must have been referring to everyone in the Bush Admin.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078479 dbadass Sat, 15 Sep 2007 23:02:55 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078479 “The Simpsons is hugely moral, with many episodes dealing with issues and dilemmas faced by young people. The willingness of the show's writers to deal with questions of both morality and spirituality makes the programme an ideal tool.” The initiative has been given backing across the Church, with the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams speaking of his adoration of the show. “The Simpsons is hugely moral, with many episodes dealing with issues and dilemmas faced by young people. The willingness of the show’s writers to deal with questions of both morality and spirituality makes the programme an ideal tool.”

The initiative has been given backing across the Church, with the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams speaking of his adoration of the show.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078476 dbadass Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:58:52 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078476 The Simpsons would have value in showing kids how not to live, I agree. ;) Comment by upright left — September 15, 2007 @ 5:22 pm Is this your best dodge? The show has been consistently praised by clergy across the mainstream spectrum. Besides doesn't the market respond to the desires of the viewers? Being the longest continuous situation comedy in history would seem to suggest that if your premise is correct that "liberal" Simpsons folks are the majority in this country The Simpsons would have value in showing kids how not to live, I agree. ;)

Comment by upright left — September 15, 2007 @ 5:22 pm

Is this your best dodge? The show has been consistently praised by clergy across the mainstream spectrum. Besides doesn’t the market respond to the desires of the viewers? Being the longest continuous situation comedy in history would seem to suggest that if your premise is correct that “liberal” Simpsons folks are the majority in this country

]]> By: upright left http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078407 upright left Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:23:47 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078407 OK. I get it now. The Bush people worship their leaders like Jesus. Comment by tb — September 15, 2007 @ 11:26 am Nope you still don't get it. ;) OK. I get it now. The Bush people worship their leaders like Jesus.

Comment by tb — September 15, 2007 @ 11:26 am

Nope you still don’t get it. ;)

]]> By: upright left http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078404 upright left Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:22:15 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078404 Comment by dbadass — September 15, 2007 @ 10:28 am The Simpsons would have value in showing kids how not to live, I agree. ;) Comment by dbadass — September 15, 2007 @ 10:28 am

The Simpsons would have value in showing kids how not to live, I agree. ;)

]]> By: upright left http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078397 upright left Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:13:09 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078397 Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — September 15, 2007 @ 10:22 am Quite an anger management problem ya got there, stupid! Are ya seeing someone about that? Seeing how ya react on a blog, I bet it's really easy to get you going in a face to face discussion. You are always good for a laugh, bud! ;) Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — September 15, 2007 @ 10:22 am

Quite an anger management problem ya got there, stupid! Are ya seeing someone about that? Seeing how ya react on a blog, I bet it’s really easy to get you going in a face to face discussion. You are always good for a laugh, bud! ;)

]]> By: Largo http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078350 Largo Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:07:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078350 Choke on a 4$ meatball, Gonzo. Choke on a 4$ meatball, Gonzo.

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078338 JoeCaribe Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:53:05 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078338 The Texas Youth Commission scandal went unnoticed, says Texas Ranger Brian Burzynski, despite his numerous attempts, beginning in early 2005, to get local, state and federal prosecutors to investigate allegations teachers, administrators and guards had sex with minor male inmates….” Comment by Sandy — September 15, 2007 @ 3:01 pm What about this? ' The Texas Youth Commission scandal went unnoticed, says Texas Ranger Brian Burzynski, despite his numerous attempts, beginning in early 2005, to get local, state and federal prosecutors to investigate allegations teachers, administrators and guards had sex with minor male inmates….”

Comment by Sandy — September 15, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

What about this?

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]]> By: litmus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078332 litmus Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:49:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078332 how can this many idiots be employed by the justice department? no wonder we're in such deep shit. blind ignorant loyalty is just endemic to this administration. like stepford wives, but much, much more dangerous. how can this many idiots be employed by the justice department? no wonder we’re in such deep shit. blind ignorant loyalty is just endemic to this administration. like stepford wives, but much, much more dangerous.

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078302 JoeCaribe Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:07:37 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078302 These are the same sort of people who thought Stalin was a great man. Comment by W.Clements — September 15, 2007 @ 2:15 pm The many thousand candidates for power positions in the local Cuban elections do not share your criticismn of what you don't understand. Get over it; there's a different type of democracy than electoral type American democracy and you're not controlling it Hah! I've said it! These are the same sort of people who thought Stalin was a great man.

Comment by W.Clements — September 15, 2007 @ 2:15 pm

The many thousand candidates for power positions in the local Cuban elections do not share your criticismn of what you don’t understand. Get over it; there’s a different type of democracy than electoral type American democracy and you’re not controlling it Hah! I’ve said it!

]]> By: Sandy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078299 Sandy Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:01:14 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078299 http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54882 YOUR GOVERNMENT AT WORK Teen sex scandal ignored by AG, others for 2 years Probe widened, involving hundreds of complaints of sexual abuse in system Posted: March 27, 2007 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Jerome R. Corsi © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com Sgt. Brian Burzynski The Texas juvenile justice sexual abuse scandal – in which Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton are accused of failing to take action – is a broader scandal that was covered up for two years, involving hundreds of serious complaints and investigations against dozens of staff members, according to officials. The Texas Youth Commission scandal went unnoticed, says Texas Ranger Brian Burzynski, despite his numerous attempts, beginning in early 2005, to get local, state and federal prosecutors to investigate allegations teachers, administrators and guards had sex with minor male inmates...." http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54882

YOUR GOVERNMENT AT WORK
Teen sex scandal ignored by AG, others for 2 years
Probe widened, involving hundreds of complaints of sexual abuse in system
Posted: March 27, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

Sgt. Brian Burzynski
The Texas juvenile justice sexual abuse scandal – in which Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton are accused of failing to take action – is a broader scandal that was covered up for two years, involving hundreds of serious complaints and investigations against dozens of staff members, according to officials.

The Texas Youth Commission scandal went unnoticed, says Texas Ranger Brian Burzynski, despite his numerous attempts, beginning in early 2005, to get local, state and federal prosecutors to investigate allegations teachers, administrators and guards had sex with minor male inmates….”

]]> By: JoeCaribe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/comment-page-3/#comment-4078274 JoeCaribe Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:33:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/14/gonzales-farewell/#comment-4078274 Let's go beyond "bright people" and unto what is significant, Make peace and, not War> That is significant! Is that understood? I hope so. Let’s go beyond “bright people” and unto what is significant, Make peace and, not War> That is significant! Is that understood? I hope so.

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