Comments on: Greenspan: Bush ‘abandoned’ fiscal constraint. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:31:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: professorjoe http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4079079 professorjoe Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:40:13 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4079079 It has been diversionary politics all along. Any reason is acceptable, as long it creates instability in the area. It took the heat off of Bush's connection to Enron and Arthur Anderson, his failed attempt to steal the Social Security tax receitpts, his locked-down documents from his administration in Texas, his absenteeism military career, and the fact that he is owned by corporate America. War creates profit. Death is merely a by-product of the manufactured wealth, which, by the way, is what was happening in the days of loose credit. Create the instability and then spin it backwards with mis-perception. They all have their own little nickel in the theater. the problem is that they are doing more damage than the country can ever recover from. It is too late for impeachment, but not for a firing squad. It has been diversionary politics all along. Any reason is acceptable, as long it creates instability in the area. It took the heat off of Bush’s connection to Enron and Arthur Anderson, his failed attempt to steal the Social Security tax receitpts, his locked-down documents from his administration in Texas, his absenteeism military career, and the fact that he is owned by corporate America. War creates profit. Death is merely a by-product of the manufactured wealth, which, by the way, is what was happening in the days of loose credit. Create the instability and then spin it backwards with mis-perception. They all have their own little nickel in the theater. the problem is that they are doing more damage than the country can ever recover from. It is too late for impeachment, but not for a firing squad.

]]> By: the Sweet Saviour on a Stick http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4079017 the Sweet Saviour on a Stick Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:30:02 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4079017 >The term is “fiscal RESTRAINT,” not “fiscal constraint.” Exley, the term is "we do NOT know where the WMD is" not "we know where the WMD is". Don't pretend your selective concern for detail is anything but self serving mental m@sturb3tion. If you really had such a deep concern for consistency you couldnt bring yourself to support this regime of pertually shifting rationales and constant mixed messages.. >The term is “fiscal RESTRAINT,” not “fiscal constraint.”

Exley, the term is “we do NOT know where the WMD is” not “we know where the WMD is”.

Don’t pretend your selective concern for detail is anything but self serving mental m@sturb3tion. If you really had such a deep concern for consistency you couldnt bring yourself to support this regime of pertually shifting rationales and constant mixed messages..

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078974 katy Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:30:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078974 glad to know you've tuned in, derrick... (... better late than never, i s'pose) be sure to spread the "news"... every little bit helps! i mean that... glad to know you’ve tuned in, derrick…
(… better late than never, i s’pose)
be sure to spread the “news”… every little bit helps!
i mean that…

]]> By: Derrick http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078846 Derrick Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:38:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078846 Someone in digg commented that the original name for the Iraqi war was "Operation Iraqi Liberation", which coincidentally can be abbreviated into OIL. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030324-4.html Someone in digg commented that the original name for the Iraqi war was “Operation Iraqi Liberation”, which coincidentally can be abbreviated into OIL.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030324-4.html

]]> By: Jeffrey Stewart http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078845 Jeffrey Stewart Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:36:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078845 Greenspan is a cover my ass, two faced POS! Does he mention that he endorsed president dinkledorf's main tax cuts in 2001 when there was a budget surplus? If the "maestro" poured cold water all over the tax cut scheme, there probably wouldn't have been the history of the world record budget deficits! What a dick! Too little too late on the oil comment Alan. Your legacy is intact though. Greenspan is a cover my ass, two faced POS! Does he mention that he endorsed president dinkledorf’s main tax cuts in 2001 when there was a budget surplus? If the “maestro” poured cold water all over the tax cut scheme, there probably wouldn’t have been the history of the world record budget deficits! What a dick!

Too little too late on the oil comment Alan. Your legacy is intact though.

]]> By: had enough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078822 had enough Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:03:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078822 <em>Greenspan: Bush ‘abandoned’ fiscal constraint</em> Perhaps you did too Greenspan... lowering the interest rates as you did maybe giving birth to the sub primes.. leading us into this mess we have now.... all this to make the economy look good while under the republican control. FU Greenspan. Greenspan: Bush ‘abandoned’ fiscal constraint
Perhaps you did too Greenspan… lowering the interest rates as you did maybe giving birth to the sub primes.. leading us into this mess we have now…. all this to make the economy look good while under the republican control. FU Greenspan.

]]> By: geronimo jones http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078816 geronimo jones Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:08:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078816 They'll never cover this on Fox. They’ll never cover this on Fox.

]]> By: geronimo jones http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078814 geronimo jones Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:07:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078814 Greenspan is going to be blamed for the the sub prime mortgage debacle. There goes his legacy as the grand master. He's just another one of the monkeys throwing poo. How much money do you think he's made on his oil and defense industry stocks? Greenspan is going to be blamed for the the sub prime mortgage debacle. There goes his legacy as the grand master.

He’s just another one of the monkeys throwing poo.

How much money do you think he’s made on his oil and defense industry stocks?

]]> By: paul http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078766 paul Sun, 16 Sep 2007 05:05:26 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078766 While were talking about oil; remember all the complaining that democrats did about the price of gasoline prior to the last election. Record profits at Exxon. Bush's ties to oil. Government wasn't doing enough to relieve the working families from the high price of oil. Now, that the Democrats control congress and the price of oil is hitting a record $80 a barrel with $3.00 a gallon gasoline - what is it exactly that the democratically controlled congress is doing? Oh, and while you're at it. It probably won't make the price of oil go down when you surrender Iraq to Islamic jihadists. While were talking about oil; remember all the complaining that democrats did about the price of gasoline prior to the last election. Record profits at Exxon. Bush’s ties to oil. Government wasn’t doing enough to relieve the working families from the high price of oil.

Now, that the Democrats control congress and the price of oil is hitting a record $80 a barrel with $3.00 a gallon gasoline – what is it exactly that the democratically controlled congress is doing?

Oh, and while you’re at it. It probably won’t make the price of oil go down when you surrender Iraq to Islamic jihadists.

]]> By: The Oracle http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078728 The Oracle Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:19:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078728 Why would the culture of corruption Republicans be interested in "fiscal restraint"? When certain members of the Republican Party decided to pillage our nation's treasury and rape our public trust, all for obscene profits for their corporate pals and taxpayer handouts to their political cronies, any "fiscal restraint" would just have just gotten in the way of their scheme. It's not that our government is bad, it's Republicans running our government for partisan profit, partisan greed and partisan power-grabbing that is bad, especially with all the thievery that has happened in the past six and a half years. Furthermore, the idea that any of the Republicans responsible, those elected and those doing the electing, are somehow Christian, after all the disasters that have happened, is laughable. The damage these Republicans have done to our nation is incalculable, and it will be all of our nation's children who will have to pay the tab for all this binging by a bunch of power-drunk and fiscally-insane Republicans. Why would the culture of corruption Republicans be interested in “fiscal restraint”?

When certain members of the Republican Party decided to pillage our nation’s treasury and rape our public trust, all for obscene profits for their corporate pals and taxpayer handouts to their political cronies, any “fiscal restraint” would just have just gotten in the way of their scheme.

It’s not that our government is bad, it’s Republicans running our government for partisan profit, partisan greed and partisan power-grabbing that is bad, especially with all the thievery that has happened in the past six and a half years. Furthermore, the idea that any of the Republicans responsible, those elected and those doing the electing, are somehow Christian, after all the disasters that have happened, is laughable.

The damage these Republicans have done to our nation is incalculable, and it will be all of our nation’s children who will have to pay the tab for all this binging by a bunch of power-drunk and fiscally-insane Republicans.

]]> By: The Republic of Stupidity http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078680 The Republic of Stupidity Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:48:57 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078680 get rid of them and your wages go back up- supply and demand Comment by sara — September 15, 2007 @ 10:02 pm This gittin' interestin'. kevin is now sara. Quick sex change? get rid of them and your wages go back up- supply and demand

Comment by sara — September 15, 2007 @ 10:02 pm

This gittin’ interestin’. kevin is now sara. Quick sex change?

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078665 katy Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:39:12 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078665 here's the thing sara... the "illegal immigrants" have got to eat too... so they come looking for work... and your "construction worker" friend's boss says to the immigrant, "sure i can put you to work, but i can only pay you $5 (or whatever)... and the immigrant says "sure thing mister. . . and i have a brother (cousin, whatever)... and the boss realizes that he can get 2 for less than he paid one, and there you have it... the boss has got to eat too... better than ever, better than many... but it's all relative, right? . here’s the thing sara… the “illegal immigrants” have got to eat too…
so they come looking for work… and your “construction worker” friend’s boss says to the immigrant, “sure i can put you to work, but i can only pay you $5 (or whatever)… and the immigrant says “sure thing mister. . . and i have a brother (cousin, whatever)… and the boss realizes that he can get 2 for less than he paid one, and there you have it…
the boss has got to eat too…
better than ever, better than many…
but it’s all relative, right?
.

]]> By: thetruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078658 thetruth Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:33:41 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078658 However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.Greenspan, 81, is understood to believe that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the security of oil supplies in the Middle East. http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.Greenspan, 81, is understood to believe that Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the security of oil supplies in the Middle East. http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece

]]> By: thetruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078657 thetruth Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:33:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078657 Alan Greenspan claims Iraq war was really for oil : AMERICA’s elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil. http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece Alan Greenspan claims Iraq war was really for oil : AMERICA’s elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil. http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078643 big papa Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:21:23 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078643 His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn’t have been in that category. Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver #20 ...HELL! They didn'tneed to give that basta*d a board seat... ...to figure that out... ...GOOD OLE BOY privilege... ...ain't life grand? His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn’t have been in that category.

Comment by Starve-A-Bush_Feed-A-Beaver #20

…HELL! They didn’tneed to give that basta*d a board seat…

…to figure that out…

…GOOD OLE BOY privilege…

…ain’t life grand?

]]> By: sara http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078556 sara Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:02:51 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078556 This is exactly what I was referring to, your complaint isn’t about taxes, it’s about your WAGES, yet you ignorantly can’t see the difference… Comment by michaelIsRetarded its all relative, by me paying off my house, i have no bills except electric, phone etc.. i have never paid a dime on any credit card. i live frugally. making more money for me isnt worth the hassle of full time work. also , yrs before the illegals got here, construction workers made good money, its the illegal immigrants who are depressing wages. get rid of them and your wages go back up- supply and demand This is exactly what I was referring to, your complaint isn’t about taxes, it’s about your WAGES, yet you ignorantly can’t see the difference…

Comment by michaelIsRetarded

its all relative, by me paying off my house, i have no bills except electric, phone etc.. i have never paid a dime on any credit card. i live frugally. making more money for me isnt worth the hassle of full time work. also , yrs before the illegals got here, construction workers made good money, its the illegal immigrants who are depressing wages. get rid of them and your wages go back up- supply and demand

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078487 big papa Sat, 15 Sep 2007 23:13:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078487 Why can't the msm and America celebrate great Americans like... ...pro-golfer Tom Cousins... ...a man who has poured MILLIONS into Eastlake (an Atlanta neighborhood)... ...to revitalize it and give the under-privileged children hope... Why can’t the msm and America celebrate great Americans like…

…pro-golfer Tom Cousins…

…a man who has poured MILLIONS into Eastlake (an Atlanta neighborhood)…

…to revitalize it and give the under-privileged children hope…

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078477 BARTLEBEE Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:59:11 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078477 In other words, if Greenspans criticizing Bush, and the neocons in here and downtown today STILL don't get it, then I imagine if the ressurected Jesus Christ himself appeared on Fox News to tell them Bush sucks, they still wouldn't believe it. Which means they suck too. In other words, if Greenspans criticizing Bush, and the neocons in here and downtown today STILL don’t get it, then I imagine if the ressurected Jesus Christ himself appeared on Fox News to tell them Bush sucks, they still wouldn’t believe it.

Which means they suck too.

]]> By: BARTLEBEE http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078474 BARTLEBEE Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:57:31 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078474 This is weird. Greenspan never criticizes anyone. He is normally softspoken and keeps to himself. It is very, very unusual for him to criticize a sitting president like this. This is weird. Greenspan never criticizes anyone. He is normally softspoken and keeps to himself.

It is very, very unusual for him to criticize a sitting president like this.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/comment-page-2/#comment-4078458 katy Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:26:16 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/15/greenspan-bush-abandoned-fiscal-constraint/#comment-4078458 normally, just thinking about this topic, just NUMBERS, will give me a headache... i've reached my limit now, but learned so much in the meantime... thanks to ace's posts... and others for sure... but what stood out the most? a lame argument of semantics was ALL that Exley could come up with @ 2:58 pm... that shows progress! . normally, just thinking about this topic, just NUMBERS,
will give me a headache…

i’ve reached my limit now, but learned so much in the meantime…
thanks to ace’s posts… and others for sure…

but what stood out the most?
a lame argument of semantics was ALL that
Exley could come up with @ 2:58 pm…

that shows progress!
.

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