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	<title>Comments on: Chuck Norris&#8217;s &#8216;facts&#8217; on Iraq: &#8216;Morale is up &#8212; way up!&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: JustDad</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/chuck-norriss-facts-on-iraq-morale-is-up-way-up/comment-page-3/#comment-4083501</link>
		<dc:creator>JustDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get A Grip Guys!
I bet you think Bob Hope was bad for America too.

Can you not tell the difference between entertainment for
the troops and politics?

I have very agressive views about whether we should be doing what we
are doing and have done in Iraq.  But folks, I am very glad that my son
had the opportunity to shake hands with him this past week.

Its hard work over there.  Its dangerous work over there.  And it can also be tedious, boring and lonely.  Chuck Norris did a good thing by making
my son happy.  Would I prefer my son to be home?  Yes.  Would my son
prefer to be home?  Yes.  But that aint reality.

Reality is, anything that makes life happy for our men and women over there is a blessing.  

Thanks Chuck for giving my son a moment of rest, relaxation and joy.  
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
There is very little in what he does every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get A Grip Guys!<br />
I bet you think Bob Hope was bad for America too.</p>
<p>Can you not tell the difference between entertainment for<br />
the troops and politics?</p>
<p>I have very agressive views about whether we should be doing what we<br />
are doing and have done in Iraq.  But folks, I am very glad that my son<br />
had the opportunity to shake hands with him this past week.</p>
<p>Its hard work over there.  Its dangerous work over there.  And it can also be tedious, boring and lonely.  Chuck Norris did a good thing by making<br />
my son happy.  Would I prefer my son to be home?  Yes.  Would my son<br />
prefer to be home?  Yes.  But that aint reality.</p>
<p>Reality is, anything that makes life happy for our men and women over there is a blessing.  </p>
<p>Thanks Chuck for giving my son a moment of rest, relaxation and joy.<br />
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!<br />
There is very little in what he does every day.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4083501', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: FactsOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>FactsOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(repost)

Ah yes, we should listen because a Western karate &quot;champion&quot; is such an authority on ... what the heck exactly being a Western karate &quot;champion&quot; qualify you for?! Karate stands in Japanese for &quot;empty hand&quot;. Perheaps they should, in honour of Chuck, rename the Western version of it to &quot;empty head&quot;...

Also being a world &quot;champion&quot; of karate is like being a winner of a Chinese yodeling competition or a Carribean tobogan racing tournament.  No self-respecting Japanese karate master would be cought dead in the same room with that clown. And I do not mean the bousouzoku pretenders, the real masters, odds of whom being called &quot;sensei&quot; by a Westerner are astronomically unlikely. You should note that none of these masters &lt;b&gt;ever&lt;/b&gt; take part in the &quot;world&quot; &quot;championships&quot;.  Probably because they find the whole notion of calling life-time devotion to their religion/phillosophy/life-style/art of discipline/etc a &quot;sport&quot; disguisting beyond description. Many an aspiring Japanese karate student got kicked out of his master&#039;s dojo for mere insinuating about his desire to &quot;compete&quot; in some sparring match with some goofy pretenders.  Guys like Gichin Funakoshi believed that a karate master might use his skill against an opponent &lt;b&gt;once&lt;/b&gt; in his life-time, when all other means of resolving a conflict fail (that is why courtesy and ways to avoid conflict are such prominent aspects of that phillosophy), and &lt;b&gt;should it ever happen&lt;/b&gt; the fight will be &lt;b&gt;to the death&lt;/b&gt;. Karate is no sport.  There are no &quot;matches&quot; in real karate.

But then again there is this whole Western instant gratification &quot;I am kickin&#039; ass!&quot; crap (which also has a lot of Japanese youth in its clutches today - to be fair) ...

It of course goes without saying that being a &quot;karate master&quot; and a Christian are pretty much mutually exclusive (never you mind a fundie like Chuck), as it is the Shinto phillosophy which is such an integral part of the true karate and permeates throughout all of its aspects.</description>
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<p>Ah yes, we should listen because a Western karate &#8220;champion&#8221; is such an authority on &#8230; what the heck exactly being a Western karate &#8220;champion&#8221; qualify you for?! Karate stands in Japanese for &#8220;empty hand&#8221;. Perheaps they should, in honour of Chuck, rename the Western version of it to &#8220;empty head&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Also being a world &#8220;champion&#8221; of karate is like being a winner of a Chinese yodeling competition or a Carribean tobogan racing tournament.  No self-respecting Japanese karate master would be cought dead in the same room with that clown. And I do not mean the bousouzoku pretenders, the real masters, odds of whom being called &#8220;sensei&#8221; by a Westerner are astronomically unlikely. You should note that none of these masters <b>ever</b> take part in the &#8220;world&#8221; &#8220;championships&#8221;.  Probably because they find the whole notion of calling life-time devotion to their religion/phillosophy/life-style/art of discipline/etc a &#8220;sport&#8221; disguisting beyond description. Many an aspiring Japanese karate student got kicked out of his master&#8217;s dojo for mere insinuating about his desire to &#8220;compete&#8221; in some sparring match with some goofy pretenders.  Guys like Gichin Funakoshi believed that a karate master might use his skill against an opponent <b>once</b> in his life-time, when all other means of resolving a conflict fail (that is why courtesy and ways to avoid conflict are such prominent aspects of that phillosophy), and <b>should it ever happen</b> the fight will be <b>to the death</b>. Karate is no sport.  There are no &#8220;matches&#8221; in real karate.</p>
<p>But then again there is this whole Western instant gratification &#8220;I am kickin&#8217; ass!&#8221; crap (which also has a lot of Japanese youth in its clutches today &#8211; to be fair) &#8230;</p>
<p>It of course goes without saying that being a &#8220;karate master&#8221; and a Christian are pretty much mutually exclusive (never you mind a fundie like Chuck), as it is the Shinto phillosophy which is such an integral part of the true karate and permeates throughout all of its aspects.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4081501', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck work with a lot of kids teaching them about personal responsibility, which is one way to solve a lot of social problems.  Whats wrong with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck work with a lot of kids teaching them about personal responsibility, which is one way to solve a lot of social problems.  Whats wrong with that?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4081490', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#89

Comment by gdm â€” September 17, 2007 @ 1:16 pm

&quot;Did Norris talk to the seven troops who wrote the NYT op-ed? I guess not.&quot;

You are right.  He talked to a quite a few MORE than those seven particular troops who wrote in the NY Slimes.</description>
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<p>Comment by gdm â€” September 17, 2007 @ 1:16 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Did Norris talk to the seven troops who wrote the NYT op-ed? I guess not.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are right.  He talked to a quite a few MORE than those seven particular troops who wrote in the NY Slimes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4081319', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3

Comment by bobh â€” September 17, 2007 @ 10:54 am

You don&#039;t get out much do you?....at least in the South.</description>
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<p>Comment by bobh â€” September 17, 2007 @ 10:54 am</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get out much do you?&#8230;.at least in the South.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4081315', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why so he can wipe his boogies on him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why so he can wipe his boogies on him?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080876', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Another Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck Norris doesn&#039;t have a chin, behind his beard is another fist.

When the Bogeyman goes to bed at night he checks under his bed for Chuck Norris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Norris doesn&#8217;t have a chin, behind his beard is another fist.</p>
<p>When the Bogeyman goes to bed at night he checks under his bed for Chuck Norris.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080873', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And screw Ted Nugent too? How does anything either think have any bearing on the situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And screw Ted Nugent too? How does anything either think have any bearing on the situation?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080848', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw Chuck Norris! What does Ted Nugent think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw Chuck Norris! What does Ted Nugent think?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080796', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Com_n_sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Com_n_sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d as soon take the word of a con-man as this kicked in the head to many times macho simpleton. 

May I suggest that if he is in so much favor of this policy that he put on a uniform and use his superior talent for hurting others to good use by joining the soldiers on their patrols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d as soon take the word of a con-man as this kicked in the head to many times macho simpleton. </p>
<p>May I suggest that if he is in so much favor of this policy that he put on a uniform and use his superior talent for hurting others to good use by joining the soldiers on their patrols.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080763', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TheToonguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheToonguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitblt, you flatter me. I am highlighting a portion of the Treaty I qouted in comment 63. Here it is again:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;As the government of the United States of America is &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; in any sense founded on the Christian Religion&lt;/em&gt; - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, - and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arrising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. (Charles I. Bevans, ed. Treaties and Other International Agreements of the United States of America 1776-1949. Vol. 11: Philippines-United Arab Republic. Washington D.C.: Department of State Publications, 1974, p. 1072).

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just to be clear - this is the treaty that John Adams...

&lt;em&gt;&quot;...hereby enjoin and require all persons bearing office civil or military within the United States, and all other citizens or inhabitants thereof, faithfully to observe and fulfill the said Treaty and every clause and article thereof.â€&lt;/em&gt;

Those are his words, not mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitblt, you flatter me. I am highlighting a portion of the Treaty I qouted in comment 63. Here it is again:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>As the government of the United States of America is <strong>not</strong> in any sense founded on the Christian Religion</em> &#8211; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, &#8211; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arrising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. (Charles I. Bevans, ed. Treaties and Other International Agreements of the United States of America 1776-1949. Vol. 11: Philippines-United Arab Republic. Washington D.C.: Department of State Publications, 1974, p. 1072).</p>
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<p>Just to be clear &#8211; this is the treaty that John Adams&#8230;</p>
<p><em>&#8220;&#8230;hereby enjoin and require all persons bearing office civil or military within the United States, and all other citizens or inhabitants thereof, faithfully to observe and fulfill the said Treaty and every clause and article thereof.â€</em></p>
<p>Those are his words, not mine.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080630', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Leftside Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leftside Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, gag me. What a gigantic load of horsesh*t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, gag me. What a gigantic load of horsesh*t.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080612', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tundra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superman wears Chuck Norris Jammies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superman wears Chuck Norris Jammies<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080585', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Ha, thats great
Comment by squegeeboo&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, I recognized the White Goodman line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Ha, thats great<br />
Comment by squegeeboo</em></p>
<p>Yeah, I recognized the White Goodman line.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080527', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: squegeeboo</title>
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		<dc:creator>squegeeboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlueArkansas
&lt;em&gt;F*cking Chuck Norrisâ€¦
&lt;/em&gt;
Ha, thats great</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlueArkansas<br />
<em>F*cking Chuck Norrisâ€¦<br />
</em><br />
Ha, thats great<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080500', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Chuck should try that lock maneuver in Baghdad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Chuck should try that lock maneuver in Baghdad&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080493', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Insurgent-C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insurgent-C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we want so badly to see or hear that the morale of our men and women in uniform serving in Iraq is low??  why do we want so badly to believe that if Chuck Norris says morale is &quot;up - way up&quot; that he is lying?  It doesn&#039;t make sense to me.  High morale and being stuck fighting in the midst of a civil war brought about by the illegal occupation of a country based on the policies of a bunch of futhermucking lunatics are not mutually exclusive.  Our military men and women are doing their jobs and most of them are willing to go above and beyond the call of duty with extended tours, multiple tours.  Morale is what it is.  

If meeting Chuck Norris and getting to shake his hand lifts a soldier&#039;s spirits just a little bit, then we should be thanking Chuck Norris!  Let&#039;s hope that soldier makes it home to watch her/his favorite Chuck Norris movie.  

What would really raise morale is seeing Chuck Norris kick the crap out of our sick, sick &quot;war president.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we want so badly to see or hear that the morale of our men and women in uniform serving in Iraq is low??  why do we want so badly to believe that if Chuck Norris says morale is &#8220;up &#8211; way up&#8221; that he is lying?  It doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.  High morale and being stuck fighting in the midst of a civil war brought about by the illegal occupation of a country based on the policies of a bunch of futhermucking lunatics are not mutually exclusive.  Our military men and women are doing their jobs and most of them are willing to go above and beyond the call of duty with extended tours, multiple tours.  Morale is what it is.  </p>
<p>If meeting Chuck Norris and getting to shake his hand lifts a soldier&#8217;s spirits just a little bit, then we should be thanking Chuck Norris!  Let&#8217;s hope that soldier makes it home to watch her/his favorite Chuck Norris movie.  </p>
<p>What would really raise morale is seeing Chuck Norris kick the crap out of our sick, sick &#8220;war president.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080477', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: klaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck would cry like a girl scout if learned they didn&#039;t have any hair dye over there. What is he... a hundred and fifty years old?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck would cry like a girl scout if learned they didn&#8217;t have any hair dye over there. What is he&#8230; a hundred and fifty years old?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080456', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bitblt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bitblt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Comment by toasterhead â€” September 17, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;
Why not? Are non-Christians unable to support their nation, value their citizenship, or obey the law without a Jesus telling them what to do? Iâ€™d love to see some proof of this.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe non-Christians can do all the things you list. They can even participate in a marriage between a men and woman â€“ another gift from God that seems to predate all religion.  They can participate in a marriage even if they donâ€™t believe in God.

But my questions is, â€œWhy do non-Christians support their nation, value their citizenship, and obey the law?â€

What influences, motivates, and causes them to do these things?




&lt;blockquote&gt;
And if the U.S. was really held together by Christian values, as you claim, why donâ€™t we have universal health care?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Though a good question itâ€™s even more off topic than my posts. If you made the statement, â€œThe U.S. is not a Christian nation because we donâ€™t have universal health care,â€ Iâ€™d probably agree with you. 


The Bible uses the images of  an â€œopen handâ€ and of not harvesting 100% of the grain in a field when discussing benevolence.  Godâ€™s people are instructed to be generous.

The Bible also associates prosperity with righteousness. â€œRighteousness exalts a nation.â€ Seems highly probable to me that if the citizenry behaved in a way that honored the creator, much of the need for health care would decrease. We know that certain behaviors have certain health consequences.



I think youâ€™ll find that Christians are some of the most generous people on earth. Southern Evangelicals have been generous beyond belief in rebuilding the gulf coast.

Colloquially youâ€™ll often hear conservation Christians say, â€œGod feeds the birds but he doesnâ€™t kick it into their nests. â€œ

I think youâ€™ve juxtaposed two things that arenâ€™t really related but which probably could be if it were a Christian nation and not a nation for Christians.</description>
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Comment by toasterhead â€” September 17, 2007 @ 1:56 pm
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Why not? Are non-Christians unable to support their nation, value their citizenship, or obey the law without a Jesus telling them what to do? Iâ€™d love to see some proof of this.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe non-Christians can do all the things you list. They can even participate in a marriage between a men and woman â€“ another gift from God that seems to predate all religion.  They can participate in a marriage even if they donâ€™t believe in God.</p>
<p>But my questions is, â€œWhy do non-Christians support their nation, value their citizenship, and obey the law?â€</p>
<p>What influences, motivates, and causes them to do these things?</p>
<blockquote><p>
And if the U.S. was really held together by Christian values, as you claim, why donâ€™t we have universal health care?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Though a good question itâ€™s even more off topic than my posts. If you made the statement, â€œThe U.S. is not a Christian nation because we donâ€™t have universal health care,â€ Iâ€™d probably agree with you. </p>
<p>The Bible uses the images of  an â€œopen handâ€ and of not harvesting 100% of the grain in a field when discussing benevolence.  Godâ€™s people are instructed to be generous.</p>
<p>The Bible also associates prosperity with righteousness. â€œRighteousness exalts a nation.â€ Seems highly probable to me that if the citizenry behaved in a way that honored the creator, much of the need for health care would decrease. We know that certain behaviors have certain health consequences.</p>
<p>I think youâ€™ll find that Christians are some of the most generous people on earth. Southern Evangelicals have been generous beyond belief in rebuilding the gulf coast.</p>
<p>Colloquially youâ€™ll often hear conservation Christians say, â€œGod feeds the birds but he doesnâ€™t kick it into their nests. â€œ</p>
<p>I think youâ€™ve juxtaposed two things that arenâ€™t really related but which probably could be if it were a Christian nation and not a nation for Christians.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080443', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Believe thatâ€™s the way itâ€™s worked so far.
I have no reason to think that any of the follow combinations will work:
â€œThe United States is a nation for Jewish&#124;Muslim&#124;Pagan&#124;Secular people.â€

Comment by bitblt â€” September 17, 2007 @ 1:51 pm&lt;/i&gt;

Why not?  Are non-Christians unable to support their nation, value their citizenship, or obey the law without a Jesus telling them what to do?  I&#039;d love to see some proof of this.

And if the U.S. was really held together by Christian values, as you claim, why don&#039;t we have universal health care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Believe thatâ€™s the way itâ€™s worked so far.<br />
I have no reason to think that any of the follow combinations will work:<br />
â€œThe United States is a nation for Jewish|Muslim|Pagan|Secular people.â€</p>
<p>Comment by bitblt â€” September 17, 2007 @ 1:51 pm</i></p>
<p>Why not?  Are non-Christians unable to support their nation, value their citizenship, or obey the law without a Jesus telling them what to do?  I&#8217;d love to see some proof of this.</p>
<p>And if the U.S. was really held together by Christian values, as you claim, why don&#8217;t we have universal health care?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4080385', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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