Rove investigation in jeopardy due to funding.
In April, the Office of Special Counsel launched a six-member task force examining “the firing of at least one U.S. attorney, missing White House e-mails, and White House efforts to keep presidential appointees attuned to Republican political priorities.” The task force is in now jeopardy. “Without a last-minute infusion of nearly $3 million, the special task force may be unable to pay its staff and buy the kind of technical equipment it needs” for the investigation, according to Jim Mitchell, the office’s spokesman. But the funds may be hard to come by:
The cost of the task force for 2008 would be $2.89 million, according to OSC estimates. But Bloch started the probe long after he submitted his 2008 budget request. And now he’s having a hard time convincing those holding the nation’s purse strings to loosen up and give him some last-minute extra funding.
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Is this a joke? Ya gotta be kiddin’.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:33 pmIs this a joke? Ya gotta be kiddin’.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:34 pmShouldn’t this be a no-brainer for Congress?
September 17th, 2007 at 4:34 pmI know the Dems have often exhibited a knack for screwing the pooch, but this shouldn’t be such a difficult decision, especially given the amount needed. The government buys toothpicks that cost more than $2.89 million.
$70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem.
$2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money?
How long ago was it, exactly, that this country fell down the rabbit hole?
September 17th, 2007 at 4:36 pmI just don’t get it! Why the heck does everything cost so much???
September 17th, 2007 at 4:36 pmHoly!!
You guys want to waste $3 million us tax dollars investigating whether someone was fired properly or not? HAHA. No wonder the dem controlled congress has lower approval ratings then Bush.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:37 pmOver 40 million was spent on the WhiteWater witchhunt finally ending up with a stain on a blue dress and we cannot fund an investigation into a willfull violation of the Presidential Records Act?
You have got to be kidding me…..
September 17th, 2007 at 4:39 pmDemocratic-controlled Congress legacy: We didn’t have the balls to stop funding the Iraq war, and we stopped wasting money on Karl Rove.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:41 pmexcuses excuses….
September 17th, 2007 at 4:41 pmWhy is anybody surprised by this?
With every passing day comes another outrage, and we are still shocked. Folks, it’s time to face facts. The government was taken over, the shock troops were called in, and they immediately replaced competent bureaucrats with corporate lackeys, partisan hacks, religious zealots and the politically-connected.
The government is, for all intents and purposes, dead. It’s just us now.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:42 pmIf the DOJ hadn’t spent all of that money on $4.00 meatballs and cookies, there’s be plenty to continue the job of “governing”. The fact is that Bush tanked this economy, part and parcel, with this amoral, highly illegal war.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:43 pmI’m sure MoveOn.org could drum up enough funding for this, if they need help!
September 17th, 2007 at 4:44 pmDear U.S.A.
Your democracy is a sham. Please stop spreading it around the world at the point of a rifle.
Signed,
The World
September 17th, 2007 at 4:45 pmCurmudgeon: We fell down the “rabbit hole” long ago. The majority of people just haven’t realized it yet. When the stock market crashes, they will be left scratching their heads. Or when China calls due l/3 of our national debt - whichever comes first. It’s all doom and gloom and I don’t think six presidents can undo the devastating harm which BushCo has done to this country.
And, if he’s not stopped by impeachment now, he can wreak much more devastation on us and the rest of the world in the 500 days he’s got left.
This country simply doesn’t HAVE 500 days with Bush screwing it up.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:46 pmI rest my case.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:46 pmQuestion: Do other rightwingers think that kind of namedropping is funny, or do they just think you’re an idiot, too?
September 17th, 2007 at 4:47 pmInternational powers are already saying that BushCo has damaged the entire world with his foreign policy. Not to mention that every country in the world thinks we’re a bunch of flaming morons and war-mongering sadists who are selfishly helping themselves to the oil in Iraq. They knew all along, as did many of us, that this war was all about the oil….just follow the dots….Cheney had his Oil Gang meeting covertly in the white house even before 9/11. Connect the dots, folks…..now you have Greenspan spilling the beans on Cheney and his Energy Committee - whoopee! This is going to get real dicey now that the cat is out of the bag.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:48 pmMy bet is on the Democrats approving the funding and the Republics filibustering the bill. Bush will certainly veto any funding bill that contains funding to investigate crimes he and his minions have committed. The Democrats should be all over this and raising a really big stink.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:49 pmOIL = Occupation Iraqi Liberation - HAH! Is this sick or what?
September 17th, 2007 at 4:49 pmbtw the U.S. is spending on average $1.4 billion a day during the last year. At that rate they would spend $3 million in 3 minutes. So they’re going to end this investigation over 3 minutes worth of cost.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:49 pmWhat we, the People, need to get through our collective thick skulls is that the Dems are in on the fix, too.
This is a Democrat-controlled Congress and Sen. Reid and Representative Pelosi have failed we, the People at every turn.
I can’t see voting for Dems again.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:50 pmHeh looks like you liberals need more money as usual. And now your crying like babies that you dont have enough money to run your partisan witch hunt.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:51 pmMaybe Ken Starr can cough up a few bucks to help out.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:51 pmHow much money did RedState provide for the Clinton investigation?
Rogerx2, When this investigation equals the $70 million spent on the Clinton investigation then you can cry foul.
Until then you are eating crow.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:51 pmYou guys want to waste $3 million us tax dollars investigating whether someone was fired properly or not? HAHA. No wonder the dem controlled congress has lower approval ratings then Bush.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Well, you were fine with spending 70 million dollars to investigate anything and everything that Clinton ever did. So why are you against spending 3 million dollars to see if the Bush Administration politicized the Justice Department and punished US Attorneys who refused to go along with Bush’s program to only go after Democrats. I’m quite sure if the tables were turned, you would be more than happy to allocate the money.
You Republics are such hypocrites. It’s amazing that you don’t see it.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:51 pmIf you’re sick of this do-nothing congress who refuses to do the “next right thing” and impeach these SOB charlatans posing as legitimate “government”, then register as “Independent” and have your voice heard. In fact, when you do, you will feel like the weight of this whole corrupt mess is off your shoulders. It’s such a reprieve from the avalanche of shit hitting the fan every day - to know that you have absolutely nothing to do with it.
The “I’s” are gaining steam every week that this spineless, sycophantic Congress drags it’s feet in pursuing the mandate of the people. The number of Registered I’s is now 35% - with the Dems at about 37% which means that the “minority party” or “third party” is now the GOP at 28% and dropping like the Titanic.
You do not have to feel that you are aiding and abetting the reign of King George by being attached to the spineless Dems who, clearly, are abrogating their duty. Register Independent Today!
You can’t imagine who much lighter you will feel emotionally to know that you’re not contaminated by association with any of the fools in Congress.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:54 pmComment by gitmoRules — September 17, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
It looks like you don’t know what you are talking about. It’s not a partisan witch hunt. It’s a matter of violating the Presidential Records Act.
What are you worried about? Do you support the subversion of laws?
September 17th, 2007 at 4:56 pmHeh looks like you liberals need more money as usual. And now your crying like babies that you dont have enough money to run your partisan witch hunt.
Comment by gitmoRules
Republicans investigating Democrats = Business as Usual
Democrats investigating Republicans = Partisan Witch hunts
Republican Party = the party of hypocrites.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:56 pmHey Bilbo: You can’t sanely dialogue with a hypocrite bull#hit artist! These Repukes and trolls will condone investigating Clinton just because they fear Hillary so much and won’t spend a dime to clean up their own “house of horrors” better known as the Department of Justice. Our DOJ has become a den of iniquity instead of being the hallmark of justice. And, if these Dems do not push for this investigation to continue, then it’s clear that the majority of americans have moved “left” of all of them - leaving them in the dust. The people need to promote individuals not afraid of exposing the truth in the coming elections and not “attached at the hip” to special interest groups (future blackmail) in 08.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:57 pmYou libs keep crying that the rebubs spent 70 million on investigations. The thing is your boy Bill BROKE THE LAW. I dont see any charges the dems are pursuing instead they just want to investigate and investigate till they find something.
Pathetic your boy Bloch cant even get his numbers right he got the funding he wanted now he wants more?
Tax and spend my friends tax and spend!!!
September 17th, 2007 at 4:58 pmBilbo: The new definition of a Republican IS “HYPOCRITE”. It’s synonymous.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:58 pmIf anyone is passing the hat, let me know. I’m good for a little donation.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:58 pm#30 And Bubble Boy broke the law - big time - by lying to the american people and congress about why we needed to go to war with Iraq! Get it straight - one guy’s pecker can hardly be compared to the intentional genocide of the Bush Admin. in sending our innocent children into a civil war to confisgate oil. Get it right, dude.
September 17th, 2007 at 4:59 pmMaybe Ken Starr can cough up a few bucks to help out.
Comment by http://www.headybrew.net — September 17, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
he’s pretty busy getting the BLACKWATER contract renewed…
September 17th, 2007 at 4:59 pmand i hear he’s having some luck with that…
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What gonads this idiot has to spew “tax and spend” as though the Dems deserve that moniker? Phew! What an inbred moron!
What does “gitmorules” NOT get about Clinton leaving a 8 million dollar “surplus” to this Chimp who has us in a 4 trillion dollar deficit!! Obvious, gitmo, math was not your forte!
September 17th, 2007 at 5:01 pmHow nice for him. All that money must have gone to humvee armor though.
Didn’t it?!?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:01 pmTax and spend my friends tax and spend!!!
Comment by gitmoRules — September 17, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
As opposed to Spend and spend and let others worry about paying. This administration has no accountability. This investigation is exposing that.
Don’t you want justice to prevail?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:02 pmBush Administration Legacy - The largest national debt ever in the history of this country! Ewwwwww…..disgusting! But we all know that one of the hallmarks of bipolar disorder is that the one afflicted can’t deal with money, never balances his budget, and doesn’t have a clue about fiscal accountability. Bush needs new meds.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:02 pmgitmoRules, of what law was Clinton found guilty?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:02 pmHe did apparently perjure himself, but show me another perjury case for which so many millions of dollars were spent.
33 #
September 17th, 2007 at 5:03 pmWhat law did he break? Lay it out for me. And if he did break a law why arnt the dems all over it.
I’ll tell you why cause no laws have been broken! I dont see anyone investigating Bush. So stop with the BS. Bush may have botched the war but he didnt break any laws.
Sure, the recent outing of the 4 million dollars the DOJ spent on meatballs & cookies is illustrative of this “spend and spend” administration. They’re spending money they don’t have every day and when the people realize that Bush has bankrupted this country, they’ll be left scratching their left nut and wondering…..duh!
September 17th, 2007 at 5:03 pmComment by Roger_Roger — September 17, 2007
Much cheaper than Ken Starr. Besides you dont think that violating the constitution is a problem? Not very conservative of you.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:04 pmWhat does “gitmorules†NOT get about Clinton leaving a 8 million dollar “surplus†to this Chimp who has us in a 4 trillion dollar deficit!! Obvious, gitmo, math was not your forte!
Comment by razzle — September 17, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
was that million or BILLION?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:04 pmgitmo: your stupidity is only superceded by your deer-in-the-headlights discourse! What time did school let you out today, piss soaked troll?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:04 pm39#
September 17th, 2007 at 5:04 pmScotter Libby
We spent millions on the Clintons investigating everything about them for the previous decade and ongoing — and there’s no money for investigating the real criminals in the White House?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:05 pmIs it starting to dawn on some of you that this so-called government “of the people” is anything but?
There is no real government anymore. There are multi-mega-international corporations that own our government, the courts, and control most everything we hear, read and see.
The elections are a charade put on to give the masses the illusion that they actually have a say in the policies going down. Investigations are a dog & pony show where justice gets hidden in the details that never come to light.
As long as 1% own 80% of the wealth nothing is going to change. We’re slaves and will remain so till the end.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:05 pmThe thing is your boy Bill BROKE THE LAW. I dont see any charges the dems are pursuing instead they just want to investigate and investigate till they find something.
Comment by gitmoRules
gitmotool. How do you know Bill broke the law? there was an investigation, you moron. Really, how stupid are you? Do you really think that the only the already proven to be guilty people are investigated? I know that’s how it works in your facist republcan gulags like gitmo. scumbag.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:05 pmYes, and the “meatball money” which the DOJ splashed through could have been for humvee armor, too! Sick & totally twisted.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:05 pmAnd now he’s having a hard time convincing those holding the nation’s purse strings to loosen up and give him some last-minute extra funding.
In other words, he asked Bush for more money to investigate the Justice Department and Bush said “hell no”.
It’s time for the Democratic Congress to step in and make sure that the money is there.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:05 pmWhat law did he break? Lay it out for me. And if he did break a law why arnt the dems all over it. -GM
He admitted to warrantless wiretapping. Hello.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:06 pmComment by gitmoRules — September 17, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
Silly little boy. That’s what this investigation is for. What law didn’t Clinton break before his investigation?
You really believe your last post? “Bush may have botched the war”. May have? Really now, is there any doubt in your mind?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:06 pm“Vapid” is the best description for our piss-soaked troll named Gitmo! His cranium is vacuous. Maybe his mother dropped him on his head somewhere along the line.
Don’t attempt to reason or engage in intelligent repartee with Gitmo. He’s out there in the stratosphere and needs to be totally and unequivocally “ignored”.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:07 pmFreeze out our schizoid/reichwing/fascist troll.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:07 pmI’ll do the investigation for half that amount.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:10 pm#48
So why dont we start investigating everyone and everything cause im sure we can find that everyone has something to hide. Moron’s cant you see that your boys in the senate and house are grasping at straws. You still want to investigate a aid who isnt even there anymore.
If thats all you got thats pathetic. You all have nothing on Bush and you know it thats why you want to fund these partisan investigation hoping something will turn up.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:10 pmThe thing is your boy Bill BROKE THE LAW. I dont see any charges the dems are pursuing instead they just want to investigate and investigate till they find something.
Well, we are fairly sure that Bush and Company BROKE THE LAW, but we won’t be able to find out unless we investigate, will we. How would you have known that Clinton BROKE THE LAW if you had not had Ken Starr to investigate him. We don’t even have a Ken Starr in our corner to investigate Bush because he will not allow appointing a special prosecutor. Why do you think that is?
Your critical thinking skills are non-existent. The Democrats know what the Bush Administration has done, they need to investigate to prove it. And Bush has been stopping the investigation every step of the way. What is Bush afraid of?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:10 pmI dont think gizmo has yet figured out that the conservatives have become the vehicles for the destruction of the constitution as they were too busy worrying about the liberal media myth for so long.
Its pretty simple actually, tell the conservatives that the liberals are destroying the constitution and they will do it themselves.
Bravo Karl!
September 17th, 2007 at 5:12 pmI agree, ignore GitmoTool, there is no reasoning with him. He is just another Republic troll with an IQ of 70. Where do they find them?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:12 pmReally Dumb question - as Congress passed the budget and the prez signed off on it, would the persons holding the pursestrings and the ability to delegate money be the executive or legislative branch ?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:13 pmWhere can I send a check?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:13 pmSo why dont we start investigating everyone and everything cause im sure we can find that everyone has something to hide.
Comment by gitmoRules — September 17, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
I’m sure that was your opinion when Clinton was being investigated. Use some critical thinking. If you suspect someone in the govt has committed a crime you investigate. It’s got to be like shooting fish in a barrel deciding which crime of the GWB administration to go after.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:13 pmgitmo can be used to sharpen the argument. Others have more information and can express it with a different take that can only enhance the fact based seekers of justice.
Gitmo is a pimple on Cheney’s a$$ but he can be a conduit for others that find their voice.
Don’t drop to a name calling contest but question gitmo. If he just insults then all are shown he has no real point and he loses. If he attempts to counter with a thought out point then it’s up to us to research and respond. We win when that happens.
You don’t have to repond with anger. Respond with reason, evidence and determination. More of that is needed to grow the american spine against the fear mongers.
So I say to you gitmo, “Bring it on” but be prepared to be an adult and use logic. There are others here that will chew you up and spit you out.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:16 pmSo why dont we start investigating everyone and everything cause im sure we can find that everyone has something to hide.
Comment by gitmoRules — September 17, 2007
Pretty much what Rove was having the DOJ do, investigate for vote raud, find ways to keep people from voting.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:17 pmNo wonder the dem controlled congress has lower approval ratings then Bush.
Comment by Roger_Roger — September 17, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
Nice attempt to minimize the level of corruption in the DoJ under BuschCo.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:18 pm40 million was given to the Kenn Starr investigations.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:20 pmTax and spend my friends tax and spend!!!
Comment by gitmoRules — September 17, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
Good Lord, there’s simply not enough time in the day to explain how dishonest and irrational your comment is.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:21 pm48
So why dont we start investigating everyone and everything cause im sure we can find that everyone has something to hide. Moron’s cant you see that your boys in the senate and house are grasping at straws. You still want to investigate a aid who isnt even there anymore.
If thats all you got thats pathetic. You all have nothing on Bush and you know it thats why you want to fund these partisan investigation hoping something will turn up.
Comment by gitmoRules
How many years of inbreeding did it take your family to perfect your brand of stupid gitmo? You can spout all the republtroll talking points about partisan investigations and witchunts all you want. there is clear evidence in several cases that SAGs were let go to stop investigations (carol lam) or because SAGs wouldn’t engage in partisan investigations. (igleasis)
If you have nothing to hide why are you whining?
As for your comment about an “aid who isnt even there anymore” i guess that quitting a job erases any crimes you commit. right?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:22 pm40 million was given to the Kenn Starr investigations.
Comment by ForTruth — September 17, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Didn’t Whitewater cost $60 MM alone?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:22 pmComment by gitmoRules
The utter contempt shown for the rule of law by Bush-worshipping authoritarians never ceases to amaze and disgust me.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:24 pmScooter Libby was tried for much more than perjury, gitmoRules.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:25 pmAnd actually found guilty.
Clinton was accused of a lie during a deposition for a civil trial.
Libby’s case was much much more extensive. I’d be embarassed to make the comparison.
No wonder the dem controlled congress has lower approval ratings then Bush.
Comment by Roger_Roger
I hate to agree with rr here, but he’s right. the reason congress has such low pollnumbers is because the majority of the public expected them to agressively put the bush crime family in jail, impeach bush and cheney, bring our troops home in one piece, stop the bleeding of jobs overseas etc.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:25 pmI’d be embarassed to make the comparison.
Comment by Wilco — September 17, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
It appears that GitMo, however, is not.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:26 pmNo wonder the dem controlled congress has lower approval ratings then Bush.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Ah, Roger, but when you break down the approval between the Democrats in Congress and the Republics in Congress, the Democrats win hands down and their rating is higher than Bush. Not to mention the latest polling on who would vote for any Democrat vs any Republican, the Any Democrat beats the Any Republican by 20%. So, Roger, stick it in your ear!
September 17th, 2007 at 5:26 pmIsn’t there new money being spent on a new investigation into the old Clinton administration?
September 17th, 2007 at 5:26 pmDidn’t Whitewater cost $60 MM alone?
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity — September 17, 2007 @ 5:22 pm
I thought it came in over 70 mil. it wasn’t wrapped up until 2002.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:26 pmIf thats all you got thats pathetic. You all have nothing on Bush and you know it thats why you want to fund these partisan investigation hoping something will turn up.
Comment by gitmoRules — September 17, 2007 @ 5:10 pm
Bush will end up in gitmo, and we’ll be laughing at you, and him.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:27 pm#
Isn’t there new money being spent on a new investigation into the old Clinton administration?
Comment by ForTruth — September 17, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Something to that effect is going on.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:28 pmTax and spend my friends tax and spend!!!
Comment by gitmoRules
At least the Democrats pay for their spending. Unlike Bush who has given huge tax cuts to his rich friends while borrowing billions of dollars a day from China to pay for his vanity war (actually Occupation). We are going to have to pay that money back some day. Doesn’t that worry you? Or don’t you have enough gray matter to wrap your brain around the fact that Bush has spent more money than all the other presidents combined and has mushroomed our national debt to unsustainable proportions.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:30 pmIsn’t there new money being spent on a new investigation into the old Clinton administration?
Comment by ForTruth — September 17, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
Something to that effect is going on.
Comment by The Republic of Stupidity
Yes, the Republicans want to start a “partisan witch hunt” to find out if Clinton politicized the government the way Bush has done. The Democrats said “go for it”. Now, can you imagine if Clinton had politicized the government, how that would have remained unknown to the public considering the fact that Ken Starr investigated everything including Clinton’s bathroom breaks.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:33 pmThat’s what Uncie Dick told me to do some decidering on…hehe….I’ve decidered that we can defund the investergaytion, sorta nuculearize it…hehe….I’m dealing out some justicationing on the subject. It’s hard work. I like it all secret agent likes…if people knew what we were doing in the White House they might git all mad and stuff, so we likes to keep it secret like. Babs get me some more pretzels.
Pull my finger….hehe
September 17th, 2007 at 5:35 pmand just like that, gitmo is gone. I learn more from the other posters than I do from the subject of the threads.
Thanks to all who posted with logic, facts and conviction.
September 17th, 2007 at 5:48 pm…I learn more from the other posters than I do from the subject of the threads.
Thanks to all who posted with logic, facts and conviction.
Comment by hellinabucket — September 17, 2007 @ 5:48 pm
that’s what it’s all about!
September 17th, 2007 at 5:58 pmTP is doing a great job lately of weeding out the troolls,
and the commenters have (mostly) refrained from so much feeding!
yes, thanks!
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Who knows, the Shadow knows! The weak azz democrats are afraid they will find the truth and then they’ll have to impeach Bush. Since they haven’t got the balls to impeach this guy, it’s better to look the other way and let by gones be by gones. After all, remember what Rodney King said: “Can’t we all just get along”. This president has broken so many laws, the articles of impeachment would take six months to read.
Second Bush knows that letting the grapes die on the vine is best because it’s always better to let a sleeping dog sleep. Why wake him up so he can bite you in the azz. So the morale of this story is, “Alls well that ends without a completed investigation and a messy final report that proves they broke the law”. Ah and one final parting shot at those weak democrats in Congress. An old Chinese profit once said, “He would leave shlt laying around, may step in same”.
So my friends the sun is setting and the shadow must go, until tommorrow when the sun will surely shine again! I bid you good night and goodbye.
September 17th, 2007 at 6:01 pmWell this is all very interesting, not accomplishing much, but interesting….I have a little tid bit to throw out, off topic ofcourse….I got a letter from Speaker Palosi today….The dem’s want donation’s to fight the rep’s on a health care bill….Yep! They will match it 2to1….Sorry folk’s I am way to pissed off to send her a letter today but you can bet your bippie I will send off a note tomorrow…..Have a nice evening..
September 17th, 2007 at 6:15 pmSharon you are an idiot! Nothing more and nothing less.
September 17th, 2007 at 6:18 pmName calling boy troll, how quaint….Be gone back under your bridge….
September 17th, 2007 at 6:23 pmSo Bloch needs a Supplimental Spending Authorization. Hell, give him $3 BILLION. Nobody will miss it.
September 17th, 2007 at 6:26 pmSharon you are an idiot! Nothing more and nothing less.
Comment by The Shadow
September 17th, 2007 at 6:26 pmThe nice thing about shadows: sunshine drives them away.
Millions were spent on Clinton investigations, so what is the deal now? Vulgar GOPer hypocrisy apparently.
September 17th, 2007 at 6:28 pmNothing pisses me off more than, “flag waving never have served in the military chickenhawk”, who sit around and want to fight with other people’s blood. Get off your fat azzes and join the Army or Marines if you want to fight a war. Stop being armchair, Monday morning, Johnnie come lately, John Rambow wantta be’s who couldn’t pass basic training, so they sit around and talk tough. I’ve been in combat before, most of you would shlt you pants if someone fired a shot at you. Take it from me getting shot isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. It doesn’t make you happy that some jerk shot you, believe me I know. And none of you tough idiots have ever seen you friend head get blown half off and have to live with the memory of it the rest of you life.
September 17th, 2007 at 6:29 pmhow many minutes of criminal murderous blackwater activity will that
September 17th, 2007 at 6:38 pm2.89 million dollars buy?
It’s a damned good thing Alabama had enough money to frame Governor Seigelman at Karl Rove’s request!
September 17th, 2007 at 6:45 pmHow about we cut some junkets out until the funds are magically ‘available’. Let’s end: the military buying good press; farm subsidies; DOJ elaborate luncheons; Air Force One and Two; Crawford, TX Whitehouse; Cheney’s second Pentagon; Congressional salary increases; any legislation supported by Sen. Stevens; lease out Camp David ’til 2009; return of 97% of Halliburton’s fees; travelling Congressmen; cancel a few Boeing contracts (most of those in Trent Lott’s bailiwick); White House chef; Senate exercise gym;
Anyone - feel free to offer some cost cutters…
September 17th, 2007 at 7:05 pmBloch, what’s your Paypal address? I’ll send some, gladly.
September 17th, 2007 at 8:02 pm#10
Comment by Spiffy — September 17, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
“…competent bureaucrats”
Now that’s a contradiction in terms. LOL!
“The government is, for all intents and purposes, dead. It’s just us now.”
Good. The less govenment control seeking to destroy our liberties the better.
September 17th, 2007 at 9:46 pm#074
Comment by bilbobaggins — September 17, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
“…and their rating is higher than Bush.”
Shouldn’t they be MUCH higher?
September 17th, 2007 at 9:50 pm#79
Comment by bilbobaggins — September 17, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
“At least the Democrats pay for their spending.”
Like the did in the 1980s when they completely controlled Congress?
September 17th, 2007 at 9:52 pmMoney was no object when it came to getting Clinton.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:15 pm“$70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem.
$2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money?
How long ago was it, exactly, that this country fell down the rabbit hole?”
–Comment by curmudgeon — September 17, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
Bless you curmudgeon, for your observation; the difference between the two investigations has been startliing. Republicans stole food out of babes mouths, medicine and crusts of bread from our elderly, and made sure the poor were doubly punished for being poor–that’s how they paid for it.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: We started down the rabbit hole in the midterm election of 1994…our downward slide hit full stride in November/December 2000. Please don’t stop posting.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:25 pmOh Tracy, your time has past; people have caught on to you and your fog-visioned friends. Ordinary folks, I see everyday, say they voted for republicans for years and all they get out of it is a smaller paycheck. They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes.
September 17th, 2007 at 10:34 pmOh, Crumudgeon, you forgot to add in the effects of inflation tp when you said:
$70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem.
$2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money?
September 17th, 2007 at 11:17 pm#101
Comment by MNDem — September 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
“They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes.”
Only a liberal would be foolish enough think that their sucess depends on government and higher taxes. You just stated an obvious fact about sucess and taxes although I will admit I get tired of hearing that same old fact over and over.
Hope this one doesn’t get deleted by TP.
September 17th, 2007 at 11:40 pmOIL = Occupation Iraqi Liberation - HAH! Is this sick or what?
Comment by razzle
fyi-
September 18th, 2007 at 12:19 amthe US government make more $ on a gallon of gas then the Oil Companies
Ordinary folks, I see everyday, say they voted for republicans for years and all they get out of it is a smaller paycheck. They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes.
Comment by MNDem
OK DFLer, when I was in MN, I was poor due to the high property taxes, and my union dues. (I was making 6.49/hr) I left and now make 80k a yr.
September 18th, 2007 at 12:27 amMy family and 3 brothers live there and pay a small fortune in property taxes which will never go down. Let me tell you something, its the DEMS who vote for anytax that they can think of. If it werent for Ronald Reagan and GW bUSH, the tax rates would be at 80 and 90 % and when a relative died, the goverment would tax the crap out of you . Also how many of your Hormel union jobs are now being done by illegal labor? and more DEMS want them here then Republicans.
Oh, Crumudgeon, you forgot to add in the effects of inflation tp when you said:
$70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem.
$2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money?
Comment by MapleStreet
had Clinton kept his marriage vows, there never would have been 70 million spent
September 18th, 2007 at 12:29 am$64 million+ was spent investigating a freakin’ blow job….they should find the money to investigate this traitor.
September 18th, 2007 at 12:48 am#106 –
Given your concern about keeping marriage vows, looks like you won’t be supporting McCain or Giuliani.
Let’s see — George W. Bush ignored warnings, including the August 6, 2000 memo entitled, “bin Laden determined to strike” — almost 3000 dead on 9/11. He then rushed us into an invasion and ongoing occupation of Afghanistan, in time to plant the opium crop in the fall of 2000, and now they account for 93% of the world supply (http://www.unodc.org/pdf/research/AFG07_ExSum_web.pdf) along with at least 437 U. S. military dead. Then he lied to us into an invasion and occupation of Iraq, leading to at least 3781 U. S. military deaths, and as many as 1.2 million deaths to Iraqis (source — http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/62728/). And just in case you think the United States entered Afghanistan and Iraq in response to the events of 9/11, please consider the country of origin for the nineteen named hijackers: Saudia Arabia (15), United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt (1) and Lebanon (1).
One more point — Clinton didn’t add hundreds of billions in debt to the nation’s credit card, which you’ll need to pay as well (forget social security or medicare), but since you must be among the extremely wealthy, you have likely been investing your tax cut windfalls in foreign currencies.
Please explain to all of us why the money used to investigate Clinton was well spent, and why money to investigate Bush Administration actions would not be.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:10 am#104 —
Wayne, please provide us with the source(s) for your statement that the U. S. government makes more money on a gallon of gas than the oil companies.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:12 amFinal cost of Whitewater investigation — $70 million.
Source — http://www.cnn.com/ 2006/ POLITICS/ 03/ 20/ scotus.whitewater.tucker.ap/ index.html
September 18th, 2007 at 3:20 amwhere do I send my check? I’m only tooooooo happy to pitch in to be sure that this is fully funded. Money well spent, I’d say.
September 18th, 2007 at 7:01 am> At first I thought this was funny…then
September 18th, 2007 at 10:50 am> I realized the awful truth of it.
>
>
> Be sure to read all the way to the end!
> Tax his land,
> Tax his bed,
> Tax the table
> At which he’s fed .
>
>
>
> Tax his tractor,
> Tax his mule,
> Teach him taxes
> Are the rule.
> Tax his cow,
> Tax his goat,
> Tax his pants,
> Tax his coat.
> Tax his ties,
>
>
> Tax his shirt,
> Tax his work,
> Tax his dirt.
>
> Tax his tobacco,
> Tax his drink,
> Tax him if he
> Tries to think.
>
> Tax his cigars,
> Tax his beers,
> If he cries, then
> Tax his tears.
>
> Tax his car,
> Tax his gas,
> Find other ways
> To tax his ass
>
> Tax all he has
> Then let him know
> That you won’t be done
> Till he has no dough.
>
> When he screams and hollers,
> Then tax him some more,
> Tax him till
> He’s good and sore.
>
> Then tax his coffin ,
> Tax his grave,
> Tax the sod in
> Which he’s laid.
>
> Put these words
> upon his tomb,
> ” Taxes drove me to my doom…”
>
> When he’s gone,
> Do not relax,
> Its time to apply
> The inheritance tax.
>
> Accounts Receivable Tax
> Building Permit Tax
> CDL license Tax
> Cigarette Tax
> Corporate Income Tax
> Dog License Tax
> Excise Taxes
> Federal Income Tax
> Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
> Fishing License Tax
> Food License Tax
> Fuel Permit Tax
> Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
> Gross Receipts Tax
> Hunting License Tax
> Inheritance Tax
> Inventory Tax
> IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
> Liquor Tax
> Luxury Taxes
> Marriage License Tax
> Medicar e Tax
> Personal Property Tax
> P roperty Tax
> Real Esta te Tax
> Service Charge Tax
> Social Security Tax
> Road Usage Tax
> Sales Tax
> Recreational Vehicle Tax
> School Tax
> State Income Tax
> State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
> Telephone Federal Excise Tax
> Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
> Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
> Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
> Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
> Telephone State and Local Tax
> Telephone Usage Charge Tax
> Utility Taxes
> Vehicle License Registration Tax
> Vehicle Sales Tax
> Watercraft Registration Tax
> Well Permit Tax
> Workers Compensation Tax
> STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
> Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the
most
> prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the
> largest middle class in the world,
>
>
> What the hell happened? Can you spell “politicians!”
>
> And… I still have to “press 1″for English
I can save some time here: Rush, Beck, Hannity. The trifecta of simplistic, easy to remember and repeat propaganda.
Never forget, 42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
September 18th, 2007 at 10:59 amWayne (Or has he now morphed into “Waynie”, as he calls himself in Post #112?) still hasn’t answered the questions I raised in Post #108, either.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:13 am