Comments on: Rove investigation in jeopardy due to funding. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:14:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: curmudgeon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081858 curmudgeon Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:13:18 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081858 Wayne (Or has he now morphed into "Waynie", as he calls himself in Post #112?) still hasn't answered the questions I raised in Post #108, either. Wayne (Or has he now morphed into “Waynie”, as he calls himself in Post #112?) still hasn’t answered the questions I raised in Post #108, either.

]]> By: Fear&Smear http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081828 Fear&Smear Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:59:21 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081828 <blockquote>#104 — Wayne, please provide us with the source(s) for your statement that the U. S. government makes more money on a gallon of gas than the oil companies. Comment by curmudgeon — September 18, 2007 @ 3:12 am</blockquote> I can save some time here: Rush, Beck, Hannity. The trifecta of simplistic, easy to remember and repeat propaganda. Never forget, 42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

#104 —

Wayne, please provide us with the source(s) for your statement that the U. S. government makes more money on a gallon of gas than the oil companies.

Comment by curmudgeon — September 18, 2007 @ 3:12 am

I can save some time here: Rush, Beck, Hannity. The trifecta of simplistic, easy to remember and repeat propaganda.

Never forget, 42.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

]]> By: Waynie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081806 Waynie Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:50:45 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081806 > At first I thought this was funny...then > I realized the awful truth of it. > > > Be sure to read all the way to the end! > Tax his land, > Tax his bed, > Tax the table > At which he's fed . > > > > Tax his tractor, > Tax his mule, > Teach him taxes > Are the rule. > Tax his cow, > Tax his goat, > Tax his pants, > Tax his coat. > Tax his ties, > > > Tax his shirt, > Tax his work, > Tax his dirt. > > Tax his tobacco, > Tax his drink, > Tax him if he > Tries to think. > > Tax his cigars, > Tax his beers, > If he cries, then > Tax his tears. > > Tax his car, > Tax his gas, > Find other ways > To tax his ass > > Tax all he has > Then let him know > That you won't be done > Till he has no dough. > > When he screams and hollers, > Then tax him some more, > Tax him till > He's good and sore. > > Then tax his coffin , > Tax his grave, > Tax the sod in > Which he's laid. > > Put these words > upon his tomb, > " Taxes drove me to my doom..." > > When he's gone, > Do not relax, > Its time to apply > The inheritance tax. > > Accounts Receivable Tax > Building Permit Tax > CDL license Tax > Cigarette Tax > Corporate Income Tax > Dog License Tax > Excise Taxes > Federal Income Tax > Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) > Fishing License Tax > Food License Tax > Fuel Permit Tax > Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon) > Gross Receipts Tax > Hunting License Tax > Inheritance Tax > Inventory Tax > IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) > Liquor Tax > Luxury Taxes > Marriage License Tax > Medicar e Tax > Personal Property Tax > P roperty Tax > Real Esta te Tax > Service Charge Tax > Social Security Tax > Road Usage Tax > Sales Tax > Recreational Vehicle Tax > School Tax > State Income Tax > State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) > Telephone Federal Excise Tax > Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax > Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes > Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax > Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax > Telephone State and Local Tax > Telephone Usage Charge Tax > Utility Taxes > Vehicle License Registration Tax > Vehicle Sales Tax > Watercraft Registration Tax > Well Permit Tax > Workers Compensation Tax > STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? > Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most > prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the > largest middle class in the world, > > > What the hell happened? Can you spell "politicians!" > > And... I still have to "press 1"for English > At first I thought this was funny…then
> I realized the awful truth of it.
>
>
> Be sure to read all the way to the end!
> Tax his land,
> Tax his bed,
> Tax the table
> At which he’s fed .
>
>
>
> Tax his tractor,
> Tax his mule,
> Teach him taxes
> Are the rule.
> Tax his cow,
> Tax his goat,
> Tax his pants,
> Tax his coat.
> Tax his ties,
>
>
> Tax his shirt,
> Tax his work,
> Tax his dirt.
>
> Tax his tobacco,
> Tax his drink,
> Tax him if he
> Tries to think.
>
> Tax his cigars,
> Tax his beers,
> If he cries, then
> Tax his tears.
>
> Tax his car,
> Tax his gas,
> Find other ways
> To tax his ass
>
> Tax all he has
> Then let him know
> That you won’t be done
> Till he has no dough.
>
> When he screams and hollers,
> Then tax him some more,
> Tax him till
> He’s good and sore.
>
> Then tax his coffin ,
> Tax his grave,
> Tax the sod in
> Which he’s laid.
>
> Put these words
> upon his tomb,
> ” Taxes drove me to my doom…”
>
> When he’s gone,
> Do not relax,
> Its time to apply
> The inheritance tax.
>
> Accounts Receivable Tax
> Building Permit Tax
> CDL license Tax
> Cigarette Tax
> Corporate Income Tax
> Dog License Tax
> Excise Taxes
> Federal Income Tax
> Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
> Fishing License Tax
> Food License Tax
> Fuel Permit Tax
> Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
> Gross Receipts Tax
> Hunting License Tax
> Inheritance Tax
> Inventory Tax
> IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
> Liquor Tax
> Luxury Taxes
> Marriage License Tax
> Medicar e Tax
> Personal Property Tax
> P roperty Tax
> Real Esta te Tax
> Service Charge Tax
> Social Security Tax
> Road Usage Tax
> Sales Tax
> Recreational Vehicle Tax
> School Tax
> State Income Tax
> State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
> Telephone Federal Excise Tax
> Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
> Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
> Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
> Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
> Telephone State and Local Tax
> Telephone Usage Charge Tax
> Utility Taxes
> Vehicle License Registration Tax
> Vehicle Sales Tax
> Watercraft Registration Tax
> Well Permit Tax
> Workers Compensation Tax
> STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
> Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the
most
> prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the
> largest middle class in the world,
>
>
> What the hell happened? Can you spell “politicians!”
>
> And… I still have to “press 1″for English

]]> By: loretta http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081628 loretta Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:01:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081628 where do I send my check? I'm only tooooooo happy to pitch in to be sure that this is fully funded. Money well spent, I'd say. where do I send my check? I’m only tooooooo happy to pitch in to be sure that this is fully funded. Money well spent, I’d say.

]]> By: curmudgeon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081607 curmudgeon Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:20:17 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081607 Final cost of Whitewater investigation -- $70 million. Source -- http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/20/scotus.whitewater.tucker.ap/index.html Final cost of Whitewater investigation — $70 million.

Source — http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/20/scotus.whitewater.tucker.ap/index.html

]]> By: curmudgeon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081604 curmudgeon Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:12:25 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081604 #104 -- Wayne, please provide us with the source(s) for your statement that the U. S. government makes more money on a gallon of gas than the oil companies. #104 —

Wayne, please provide us with the source(s) for your statement that the U. S. government makes more money on a gallon of gas than the oil companies.

]]> By: curmudgeon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081603 curmudgeon Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:10:40 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081603 #106 -- Given your concern about keeping marriage vows, looks like you won't be supporting McCain or Giuliani. Let's see -- George W. Bush ignored warnings, including the August 6, 2000 memo entitled, "bin Laden determined to strike" -- almost 3000 dead on 9/11. He then rushed us into an invasion and ongoing occupation of Afghanistan, in time to plant the opium crop in the fall of 2000, and now they account for 93% of the world supply (http://www.unodc.org/pdf/research/AFG07_ExSum_web.pdf) along with at least 437 U. S. military dead. Then he lied to us into an invasion and occupation of Iraq, leading to at least 3781 U. S. military deaths, and as many as 1.2 million deaths to Iraqis (source -- http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/62728/). And just in case you think the United States entered Afghanistan and Iraq in response to the events of 9/11, please consider the country of origin for the nineteen named hijackers: Saudia Arabia (15), United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt (1) and Lebanon (1). One more point -- Clinton didn't add hundreds of billions in debt to the nation's credit card, which you'll need to pay as well (forget social security or medicare), but since you must be among the extremely wealthy, you have likely been investing your tax cut windfalls in foreign currencies. Please explain to all of us why the money used to investigate Clinton was well spent, and why money to investigate Bush Administration actions would not be. #106 –

Given your concern about keeping marriage vows, looks like you won’t be supporting McCain or Giuliani.

Let’s see — George W. Bush ignored warnings, including the August 6, 2000 memo entitled, “bin Laden determined to strike” — almost 3000 dead on 9/11. He then rushed us into an invasion and ongoing occupation of Afghanistan, in time to plant the opium crop in the fall of 2000, and now they account for 93% of the world supply (http://www.unodc.org/pdf/research/AFG07_ExSum_web.pdf) along with at least 437 U. S. military dead. Then he lied to us into an invasion and occupation of Iraq, leading to at least 3781 U. S. military deaths, and as many as 1.2 million deaths to Iraqis (source — http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/62728/). And just in case you think the United States entered Afghanistan and Iraq in response to the events of 9/11, please consider the country of origin for the nineteen named hijackers: Saudia Arabia (15), United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt (1) and Lebanon (1).

One more point — Clinton didn’t add hundreds of billions in debt to the nation’s credit card, which you’ll need to pay as well (forget social security or medicare), but since you must be among the extremely wealthy, you have likely been investing your tax cut windfalls in foreign currencies.

Please explain to all of us why the money used to investigate Clinton was well spent, and why money to investigate Bush Administration actions would not be.

]]> By: cookie jill http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081497 cookie jill Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:48:36 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081497 $64 million+ was spent investigating a freakin' blow job....they should find the money to investigate this traitor. $64 million+ was spent investigating a freakin’ blow job….they should find the money to investigate this traitor.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081465 Wayne Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:29:46 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081465 Oh, Crumudgeon, you forgot to add in the effects of inflation tp when you said: $70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem. $2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money? Comment by MapleStreet had Clinton kept his marriage vows, there never would have been 70 million spent Oh, Crumudgeon, you forgot to add in the effects of inflation tp when you said:

$70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem.

$2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money?

Comment by MapleStreet

had Clinton kept his marriage vows, there never would have been 70 million spent

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081461 Wayne Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:27:30 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081461 Ordinary folks, I see everyday, say they voted for republicans for years and all they get out of it is a smaller paycheck. They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes. Comment by MNDem OK DFLer, when I was in MN, I was poor due to the high property taxes, and my union dues. (I was making 6.49/hr) I left and now make 80k a yr. My family and 3 brothers live there and pay a small fortune in property taxes which will never go down. Let me tell you something, its the DEMS who vote for anytax that they can think of. If it werent for Ronald Reagan and GW bUSH, the tax rates would be at 80 and 90 % and when a relative died, the goverment would tax the crap out of you . Also how many of your Hormel union jobs are now being done by illegal labor? and more DEMS want them here then Republicans. Ordinary folks, I see everyday, say they voted for republicans for years and all they get out of it is a smaller paycheck. They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes.

Comment by MNDem

OK DFLer, when I was in MN, I was poor due to the high property taxes, and my union dues. (I was making 6.49/hr) I left and now make 80k a yr.
My family and 3 brothers live there and pay a small fortune in property taxes which will never go down. Let me tell you something, its the DEMS who vote for anytax that they can think of. If it werent for Ronald Reagan and GW bUSH, the tax rates would be at 80 and 90 % and when a relative died, the goverment would tax the crap out of you . Also how many of your Hormel union jobs are now being done by illegal labor? and more DEMS want them here then Republicans.

]]> By: Wayne http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081457 Wayne Tue, 18 Sep 2007 04:19:38 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081457 OIL = Occupation Iraqi Liberation - HAH! Is this sick or what? Comment by razzle fyi- the US government make more $ on a gallon of gas then the Oil Companies OIL = Occupation Iraqi Liberation – HAH! Is this sick or what?

Comment by razzle

fyi-
the US government make more $ on a gallon of gas then the Oil Companies

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081423 Tracy Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:40:07 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081423 #101 Comment by MNDem — September 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm "They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes." Only a liberal would be foolish enough think that their sucess depends on government and higher taxes. You just stated an obvious fact about sucess and taxes although I will admit I get tired of hearing that same old fact over and over. Hope this one doesn't get deleted by TP. #101

Comment by MNDem — September 17, 2007 @ 10:34 pm

“They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes.”

Only a liberal would be foolish enough think that their sucess depends on government and higher taxes. You just stated an obvious fact about sucess and taxes although I will admit I get tired of hearing that same old fact over and over.

Hope this one doesn’t get deleted by TP.

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081385 MapleStreet Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:17:20 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081385 Oh, Crumudgeon, you forgot to add in the effects of inflation tp when you said: $70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem. $2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money? Oh, Crumudgeon, you forgot to add in the effects of inflation tp when you said:

$70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem.

$2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money?

]]> By: MNDem http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-3/#comment-4081345 MNDem Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:34:33 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081345 Oh Tracy, your time has past; people have caught on to you and your fog-visioned friends. Ordinary folks, I see everyday, say they voted for republicans for years and all they get out of it is a smaller paycheck. They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes. Oh Tracy, your time has past; people have caught on to you and your fog-visioned friends. Ordinary folks, I see everyday, say they voted for republicans for years and all they get out of it is a smaller paycheck. They are tired of the GOP and government that takes their vote and tells them their success lies in lower taxes.

]]> By: MNDem http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-2/#comment-4081335 MNDem Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:25:27 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081335 "$70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem. $2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money? How long ago was it, exactly, that this country fell down the rabbit hole?" --Comment by curmudgeon — September 17, 2007 @ 4:36 pm Bless you curmudgeon, for your observation; the difference between the two investigations has been startliing. Republicans stole food out of babes mouths, medicine and crusts of bread from our elderly, and made sure the poor were doubly punished for being poor--that's how they paid for it. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: We started down the rabbit hole in the midterm election of 1994...our downward slide hit full stride in November/December 2000. Please don't stop posting. “$70 million dollars during the Clinton era to find a stained blue dress? No problem.

$2.89 million dollars to investigate serious constitutional violations? We are told that there isn’t enough money?

How long ago was it, exactly, that this country fell down the rabbit hole?”

–Comment by curmudgeon — September 17, 2007 @ 4:36 pm

Bless you curmudgeon, for your observation; the difference between the two investigations has been startliing. Republicans stole food out of babes mouths, medicine and crusts of bread from our elderly, and made sure the poor were doubly punished for being poor–that’s how they paid for it.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: We started down the rabbit hole in the midterm election of 1994…our downward slide hit full stride in November/December 2000. Please don’t stop posting.

]]> By: Quizmos http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-2/#comment-4081331 Quizmos Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:15:50 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081331 Money was no object when it came to getting Clinton. Money was no object when it came to getting Clinton.

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-2/#comment-4081312 Tracy Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:52:22 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081312 #79 Comment by bilbobaggins — September 17, 2007 @ 5:30 pm "At least the Democrats pay for their spending." Like the did in the 1980s when they completely controlled Congress? #79

Comment by bilbobaggins — September 17, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

“At least the Democrats pay for their spending.”

Like the did in the 1980s when they completely controlled Congress?

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-2/#comment-4081310 Tracy Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:50:24 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081310 #074 Comment by bilbobaggins — September 17, 2007 @ 5:26 pm "...and their rating is higher than Bush." Shouldn't they be MUCH higher? #074

Comment by bilbobaggins — September 17, 2007 @ 5:26 pm

“…and their rating is higher than Bush.”

Shouldn’t they be MUCH higher?

]]> By: Tracy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-2/#comment-4081308 Tracy Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:46:10 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081308 #10 Comment by Spiffy — September 17, 2007 @ 4:42 pm "...competent bureaucrats" Now that's a contradiction in terms. LOL! "The government is, for all intents and purposes, dead. It’s just us now." Good. The less govenment control seeking to destroy our liberties the better. #10

Comment by Spiffy — September 17, 2007 @ 4:42 pm

“…competent bureaucrats”

Now that’s a contradiction in terms. LOL!

“The government is, for all intents and purposes, dead. It’s just us now.”

Good. The less govenment control seeking to destroy our liberties the better.

]]> By: SKdeA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/comment-page-2/#comment-4081205 SKdeA Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:02:39 +0000 http://edit.thinkprogress.org/2007/09/17/rove-investigation-in-jeopardy-due-to-funding/#comment-4081205 Bloch, what's your Paypal address? I'll send some, gladly. Bloch, what’s your Paypal address? I’ll send some, gladly.

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