CNN: Only Pro-War Demonstrators Are ‘Troop Supporters’
CNN: Only Pro-War Demonstrators Are ‘Troop Supporters’
Reporting on the war demonstrations in Washington D.C. this past weekend, CNN’s Kathleen Koch perpetrated the falsehood that pro-war demonstrators support the troops while anti-war demonstrators do not.
In her report, Koch starts off talking about the thousands of anti-war demonstrators. She then proceeds to “balance out” the report with news on the much smaller counter-demonstration, referring to them as the “pro-troop demonstrators”:
[J]ust 13 blocks away, a smaller group of nearly a thousand pro-troop demonstrators tried to make their message heard.
Watch it:
Koch made no such “pro-troop” reference to those demonstrating against the administration.
CNN’s own promo on its website made the same distinction, pitting “anti war protesters” against “troop supporters”:
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September 18th, 2007 at 3:27 pmSame sh*t, different day.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:27 pmSome of us who are against this BS war ARE/WERE THE TROOPS!
September 18th, 2007 at 3:28 pmWho is this scarecrow? I’ve never seen her, and I watch Certainly Not News almost every day.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:29 pmjust one of many useless tools flooding the TV box… I dont even recognize thsi one!?
but then again…I havent watched any news other than the local in ages. Cable is for entertainment only there is no differance between CNN and Cartoon network tbh
September 18th, 2007 at 3:30 pmTomorrows statement of misstatement:
“I misspoke, I meant to say poop supporters.”
September 18th, 2007 at 3:31 pmCNN has decided it will find economic bliss by behaving like Faux News. I no longer watch their biased nonsense and recommend boycotting the channel and its sponser to all.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:34 pmMEIN GOTT!
IST DAT EVA???
EVA!!! Vee have been looking everyveer fur you!
September 18th, 2007 at 3:34 pm#6:
Really? So all of those people who join the military to get a better life of what they’ll get in return (college, a job not pumping gas when they’re done, to better them selves etc) aren’t soldiers of distinction?
September 18th, 2007 at 3:35 pmAll together now: “What so-called librul media?”
September 18th, 2007 at 3:36 pmNo surprise. CNN is Fox News lite.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:37 pmre #6 “Every great soldier has to love the fight, they have to believe the fight to be a hell of a hoot”
yes. The soldiers i know (and yes i know several) simply LOOOOVED the weeks of endless slaughter and seeing bodies in the streets. /sarcasm
you are one sick, detatched individual Tryon.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:37 pmEvery great soldier has to love the fight, they have to believe the fight to be a hell of a hoot.
Comment by Tryon — September 18, 2007 @ 3:30 pm
What a phony!
September 18th, 2007 at 3:38 pmSo lets see if I have this right. Old Berlin Betty here thinks its supporting the troops to force them to stay year after year after year in a meatgrinder, until they either get killed or lose a limb, but trying to help them come back to America, is not supporting them?
:|
Well I hope you guys dont’ start “supporting me”.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:40 pm“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”
– Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
September 18th, 2007 at 3:40 pmIt all depends what your definition of “support” is.
Most of the pro-war supporters are just that: supporters of the war and the hell with the troops. The anti-war supporters are just as they seem: support the troops and to hell with the war.
The fact is that the war has nothing to do with supporting the troops, as the troops can be supported anywhere they may be. Using the logic of the pro-war crowd our troops in parts of the world not involved in actual fighting (war) are not worthy of support.
The entire question is not of who does or does not support the troops but is who does or does not support the illegal war. Supporting war is inherently politically incorrect so it becomes necessary to cloud the issue by claiming it is the troops that are being supported. The only troops that are supported by the bushco are those supported by their pallbearers and even then we are not allowed to see the result of the bushco support.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:41 pmTryon sez:
Spoken like a true chickenhawk.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:41 pm#6 You know nothing of the american fighting soldier.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:41 pmIt’s what anyone who lends backing and creedence to the Bush war machine supports. Pure Bull poop.
I realize my offhand comment could be taken as calling the troops by an objectionable term, and to any who took it that way, I aplogize.
If you simply want to twist it that way, no apology extended.
Let me rephrase it.
“I misspoke, I meant to say pro-poop supporters.â€
September 18th, 2007 at 3:41 pmTryon; sounds like you’re willing to lead the charge. Have you enlisted yet? If not, why not?
September 18th, 2007 at 3:41 pm“I misspoke, I meant to say pro-poop supporters.â€
Comment by Raven — September 18, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
You might want to ask Dave Vitter about that, didn’t he have a diaper fetish?
September 18th, 2007 at 3:43 pmI’m retired.
Comment by Tryon — September 18, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
From what, UPS?
September 18th, 2007 at 3:44 pmanti-occupation vs. pro-occupation are the accurate terms.
“Pro-war” doesn’t sound as PR friendly as “pro-troop”
September 18th, 2007 at 3:44 pmYeah, forcing troops to die in someone else’s civil war, beyond their contractural obligations, beyond army standards for deployment is “supporting them”, but moving to take them out and reunite them with their families is treason and “hating” the troops.
Conservatives are f’ing morons!
September 18th, 2007 at 3:44 pmTalk about bizarro world. People who want to send them into the meat grinder that is Iraq to get them killed are “pro troop”, but people who want them to be brought home and made safe are not “pro troop”.
Black is white, up is down, welcome to the bizarro world of the Bush Crime Family and friends.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:44 pmcomment by Clyde the Ripper @ 3:41 pm
Absolutely GD right. F*cking-a straight, man.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:44 pmTryon sez:
I don’t believe you.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:45 pmJoining the military isn’t about cute college benefits. I wasn’t speaking of that, yappy. Keep your “better life†talking-points in one place — the illlegal bummigrant debate.
Comment by Tryon
And it isn’t about playing shootem up vidieo games in mommy’s basement and then standing in front of a mirror flexing your biceps either. Sign up or shut up.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:46 pmSo Tyron is in bed.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:46 pmI’m retired from KFC.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:46 pmRepublic of Stupidity; UPS is waaaay to complicated for him. Most likely retired from McJobs.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:47 pmI’m not a chickenhawk, you pure garbage. I’m retired.
tyron
So, you quit when the going got tough. typical repubican.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:48 pmI have always supported the troops and have always questioned the motives for going into Iraq.
Tryon, soldiers are trained to execute some very unsavory orders. They are conditioned to operate in terrible conditions. They follow their leaders without questioning the reasons behind the order. They are not “loving the fight”. They are surviving.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:49 pmSpeak for yourself, fruitcake.
Comment by Tryon
does this yahoo sound like that pretend latin king from a few weeks back?
September 18th, 2007 at 3:49 pmugh…
the kids are at it again…
poorly chosen “battle” here…
September 18th, 2007 at 3:51 pm…
can probably tell that you collect a $140 montly pension as a retired ACLU staff protestor.
Comment by Tryon — September 18, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
ZING!!!! Wow, you must write for Dennis Miller or the Half Hr News hr.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:51 pmTroops are not meant to be nation builders. By using them as such is not supporting them.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:53 pmWho do we contact to request an explanation, apology and public retraction?
September 18th, 2007 at 3:53 pmMaybe there could be a serious debate that can lead to a serious distinction between those who support the troops and those who support the mission. They are not the same. This could be a democratic talking point.
6 corporations own over 90 % of all tv ,radio and print in the US. Propaganda is all were fed , by the very corporations who own our government !Corporate news network .
September 18th, 2007 at 3:53 pmIt was all brought home for me a few years ago when travelling on business I caught the news at a hotel breakfast bar in Boise ,Idaho .The announcer on CNN was trumpetting the presidents new commission which was founded to promote fledgling democracies around the world .Later upon returning home ,I switched on Democracy now,and there was Haiti’s deposed President Aristede saying the CIA had just overthrown his government ,kidnapped him and held him for 2 days at the airport before forcibly exiling him from his country !
I have been allover the country in the last year and having asked 100’s of people coast to coast what a signing statement is ,only found 1 ,who had ever heard of it .Funny ,since the Amer. bar Assoc.called signing statements the greatest threat to our constitutional democracy in a generation,3 or more years ago!
I somehow suspect Tryon isn’t what he pretends to be.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:54 pmSpeaking of economic bliss, this it OT but…
Since the Feds lowered the prime today the Cdn $ rose to 98.61 U.S. cents, the strongest since January 1977. It was 61.80 cents in January 2002. That was the risk of lowering prime to bailout the mortgage industry… destroy the $. If oil switches to the Euro as a means of trading this could get pretty ugly pretty quick.
Onto fiscal matters, rising tax revenue and energy royalties have allowed the Canadian government to post 10 straight budget surpluses, the only country among the Group of Eight nations with a balanced account.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:54 pmPlease don’t feed the troll.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pmACH DU LIEBER I izt certain dat dat ist Eva!
Eva! It ist so gut to hear you speak again!
:|
We thought she got kerplotzed in der bunker.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pmcan probably tell that you collect a $140 montly pension as a retired ACLU staff protestor. Comment by Tryon — September 18, 2007
Yeh, imagine that (R) Limbaugh used ACLU services, now I see they are helping (R) Craig.
Silly Troll, pundit parroting is for those who cant think on their own.
Sapre Aude!
September 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pmThen you are not a soldier of distinction. Every great soldier has to love the fight, they have to believe the fight to be a hell of a hoot.
Comment by Tryon
That sounds like an al Queda recruiting slogan.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pmEvery great soldier has to love the fight, they have to believe the fight to be a hell of a hoot.
Comment by Trying
Really? Someone better tell Audie Murphy.
Or Dick Winters.
Or Bill Gaurnere.
Or….
September 18th, 2007 at 3:57 pmComment by Tryon — September 18, 2007
Converse you with you…why? Your obviously only able to repeat what crowing controversial craniums crap.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:58 pmMy service was tough.
Mr. Bobwurst, our keyboard commando, believes he can converse with me.
Comment by Tryon
1-right, and bush thinks that presidentin is “hard work”
2-unless you have a mouse in your pocket, you’re on your own here.
3-I’ll converse with you once I get that lobotomy.
I’m done with you. You can’t have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:58 pmor beetle bartlebee .
September 18th, 2007 at 3:59 pmAnd I’ll sleep just fine. Oh, how quickly your skepticism escapes my conscience.Comment by Tryon — September 18, 2007
You have never even entered mine. Say hello to ignore, parrot.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:00 pm“Pro-troop” just sounds better than what these so-called ’supporters’ really mean.
Which is:
“Pro-Troops should come back in a pine box for the glory of the Great Leader’s ideological war of occupation for control of middle-east resources and strategic long-term military positioning”
Yeah….pro-troops is just easier to say, even if it is complete bullshite.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:00 pmClaiming to “support the troops but not the mission” is kind of like saying you support the Lakers, you just don’t want them to win.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:00 pmC-SPAN is doing it too.
Check out these screen grabs I got from C-SPAN:
A Tale Of Two Rallies
One look at the pictures, and not the labels, tells you which side really supports the troops?
[And this is the 3rd story TP has poached from me]
September 18th, 2007 at 4:01 pmall you heathen libs think that our troops are dupes.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:01 pmI told CNN that they had better be careful about opening their mail….hehe…and bam…just like that they put a Bush Loyalty Oak signer in there for me…hehe…cause I am all cockified and stuff….hehe….I’m the decidering guy….I’ll make up the news and stuff….hehe….I like news about puppy dogs that play pianos and stuff….hehe….Britney….hehe…she’s cool…hehe….OJ….hehe…I love hearing about OJ all day long….hehe…heck who wants to hear about crimes that I commit daily…nobody, that’s who…I am the most cockified guy around…Babs where’s those damn pretzels?
Pull my finger….hehe
September 18th, 2007 at 4:01 pmWhat’d I do now?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:02 pmClaiming to “support the troops but not the mission†is kind of like saying you support the Lakers, you just don’t want them to win.
Comment by Ringo
no, it’s more like saying you suppor the lakers and you don’t want them to die in a needless war.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:02 pmA remarkably dumb comparison.
Comment by Tryon
Why is that? You don’t think al Queda loves the fight?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:02 pmMy service was tough.
Yeah, filling out those supply forms in triplicate is tough work.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:02 pmWhen the dems attack our troops, can they still be “for the troops”. I am pretty sure you folks attacked our general in Iraq. Last I checked, he is a troop. It is your right to be against our troops, but it is also sad.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:03 pmClaiming to “support the troops but not the mission†is kind of like saying you support the Lakers, you just don’t want them to win.
Comment by Ringo — September 18, 2007
Thats all good and all well in war, but Iraq is a Freedom Operation.
You support war but that is, in reality, saying you want the Buish Freedom Operation, for the oppressed Iraqis to fail.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:04 pmAs one of the more than 10,000 (15,000? 18,000?) people who participated in the march on Saturday, I am greatly offended by the so-called ‘balance’ that some of the news media have pasted up in their coverage of that day.
I was not offended by the war supporters who held a counter demonstration because they have just as much of a right to their opinions as I do to mine.
However, it is offensive that they be given the same billing or even more prominence by newspapers and “the most trusted news network” in a portrayal of even-handed reporting. Two or three hundred counters protestors simply cannot be held head-for-head, column inch for inch with the teaming throng that filled Pennsylvania Avenue for several hours last Saturday.
When I saw the article in the Washington Post the next day, I could not believe that the reporters were at the same event that I attended. The largest photo was of the pro-war activists and even the headline made it look like there was some sort contest between equally matched opponents.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:04 pmall you heathen libs think that our troops are dupes.
Comment by redneck, redstate
Not me. I think they are pawns used by bumbling neo-con wanna-be war mongers.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:04 pmClaiming to “support the troops but not the mission†is kind of like saying you support the Lakers, you just don’t want them to win.
Comment by Ringo — September 18, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
In general maybe
September 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pmNot so as far as Iraq goes. It is like supporting the Lakers by allowing them to leave a burning building. Instead of making them continue to play the game while in flames.
Claiming to “support the troops but not the mission†is kind of like saying you support the Lakers, you just don’t want them to win.
Comment by Ringo — September 18, 2007
PLease list how many Lakers were killed by IEDs on the way to the hoop and then maybe this will make any sense.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pmMaybe this is what the “peace” activists mean when they say they support the troops:
http://www.right-thinking.com/images/uploads/shoot_officers.jpg
September 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pmClaiming to “support the troops but not the mission†is kind of like saying you support the Lakers, you just don’t want them to win.
Comment by Ringo — September 18, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
Actually it’s nothing at all like that. It’s more like pulling your first string players in a Laker exhibition game. Tactics & strategy & maintaining your core strength are more important then the ego of the team/coaches at a time when winning isn’t everything. Get it?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pmWho decided the “Mission” and why does it have to be supported?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pmBettle Bailey was a soldier in the comics ,AmI getting old or what ?But my head does still hurt where you hit it with the key board .
September 18th, 2007 at 4:06 pmLOL :)
They can be labeled what ever they like, it’s just meant to mislead people who only have a infotainment level of events going on in the world, which sadly is quite a few people.
You can call it the “Democratic People’s Republic of the Congo”, that doesn’t mean it’s a Democratic People’s Republic. It is however in the Congo.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:07 pmall you heathen libs think that our troops are dupes.
Comment by redneck, redstate — September 18, 2007
Look, another amazing Kookskin [tinfoiler] that thinks it knows what I think.
What am I thinking right now Aleister Crowley ?
You can support the troops but not the president.”
September 18th, 2007 at 4:08 pm–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
Then you are not a soldier of distinction. Every great soldier has to love the fight, they have to believe the fight to be a hell of a hoot.
Comment by Tryon
That sounds like an al Queda recruiting slogan.
Comment by dlet — September 18, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Actually, I think it is from the opening monologue in “Patton.”
God, what a great movie…..
September 18th, 2007 at 4:09 pm“Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?”
September 18th, 2007 at 4:09 pm–Sean Hannity, Fox News
You can support the troops but not the president.â€
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
Comment by Zep Tepi — September 18, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
Hey, that kind of thinking only applies to a Democrat President. It all flip flops once a Republican is blindly leading the charge.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:09 pmPro-war = pro-death.
Anti-war = pro-life.
Republicans are hypocrites (not that this is news to anyone).
September 18th, 2007 at 4:09 pmLast I checked, he is a troop. It is your right to be against our troops, but it is also sad.
Comment by Roger_Ramjerk — September 18, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Yea?
Funny.
I didn’t think “troops” could just “resign” when they don’t want to play anymore.
Silly me.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:10 pmWhen the dems attack our troops, can they still be “for the troopsâ€. I am pretty sure you folks attacked our general in Iraq. Last I checked, he is a troop. It is your right to be against our troops, but it is also sad.
Comment by Roger_Roger — September 18, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
According to this theory, no one is allowed to criticize a general officer no matter what he says or does because it would be the equivalent of being “against the troops.”
But, wait, it gets worse. Since The Decidered is the Commander in Chief, no one can criticize him without being “against the troops.”
Not too many points for logic, here, Roger2. In fact, none at all.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:10 pmMaybe this is what the “peace†activists mean when they say they support the troops: -Ringo
Maybe its what you think it means.
Maybe it means this?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:11 pm[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”
–Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)
4 more troops killed today
support the troops bring em home
September 18th, 2007 at 4:12 pmPro troops stuck in deadly quigmire.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:12 pm“You can support the troops but not the president.â€
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
Comment by Zep Tepi — September 18, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
Hey, that kind of thinking only applies to a Democrat President. It all flip flops once a Republican is blindly leading the charge.
Comment by Dave C”
Buuuuut….9-11 changed everything.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:13 pm“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
September 18th, 2007 at 4:14 pm–Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)
Comment by Zep Tepi — September 18, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Hey, that kind of thinking only applies to a Democrat President. It all flip flops once a Republican is blindly leading the charge.
Comment by Dave C — September 18, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
September 18th, 2007 at 4:14 pmRingo: be sure to check back on the abstinence only thread. You were just publicly humiliated.
Wheeeeee!!!
September 18th, 2007 at 4:15 pmbtw, how does Kathleen pronounce her last name?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:16 pmCNN: Pro-Idiot
September 18th, 2007 at 4:16 pmBuuuuut….9-11 changed everything.
Comment by Bobwurst — September 18, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
Yeah, it was the ultimate flip flopper. After 9/11 it was no longer necessary to have a defined plan when you go to war, exit strategies became meaningless, troops are expendable, citizen’s rights meaningless, torture became acceptable, fiscal responsibility a joke… times they have changed.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:16 pmWhat she meant to say was the majority of the anti-war demonstrators were the “real patriots” who care more about the lives of our military then Bush’s Oil. The smaller, almost insignificant group of “peace haters” weren’t properly labeled either. They’re the true “antipatriot war mongers”. Get it right next time, airhead sycophant KochyKrotch.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI think she pronounces it “kochy-koochy-kroch”
September 18th, 2007 at 4:17 pmBut…9/11 changed everything. That “false flag operation” of Bush’s surely did!
September 18th, 2007 at 4:17 pmComment by Zep Tepi — September 18, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
I love it when their fed their own words.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:17 pmhttp://www.911truth.org
Check out the facts and science. It’s all there – dots to connect to get to the truth of it all.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:18 pmBuuuuut….9-11 changed everything.
Comment by Bobwurst — September 18, 2007
Ironically the first WTC attack didnt.
The same fools here denouncing those who dont think our troops should be used for nation building attacked Clinton for commiting troops to Bosnia.
WTF?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:19 pmListen to all the f-ing scared little trolls on this thread. Your Nuremburg is coming. You know it. Your leaders will be in Paraguay but you will not. And your judgement will come in the form of those military tribunals you claim to love so much. Your media shouts and shouts but can no longer drown out the murmuring of the masses who are realizing they’ve been duped. They will demand restitution and not even Blackwater will save you.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:19 pmComment by hellinabucket — September 18, 2007
Yeh, makes them quiet down real quick. =P
September 18th, 2007 at 4:20 pmWhat Kathy Koochie Krotch really meant to say was the small, almost insignificant group of “others” are calling themselves “BLOOD FOR OIL”.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:20 pm4 more troops killed today
Comment by Tobey Tall — September 18, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
4 more troops being “supported” by the right wing.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:20 pmwe must never forget the tragic events of 913
September 18th, 2007 at 4:20 pm“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.â€
–Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)
Comment by Zep Tepi — September 18, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Exit strategy for Dubya is like the school boy pranks of his Skull and Boners: Sh!t in a bag made of the COnstitution, have his buddies carry it to the front porch and ring the door bell and run, as he sits in the safety of Daddy’s car across the street laughing as the coke and beer dribble down his nose and chin.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:21 pm…And Bush’s felonious BLOOD FOR OIL war rages on! Vulgar!
September 18th, 2007 at 4:21 pmIf War Supporters are the last 27% of bushco’s congregation, then I don’t feel too badly about being called a protester. When history is written about this stuff, war protesters will be honored and appreciated. War supporters will be called traitors.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThe whole “support the troops” discussion and other empty mottos have always seemed to me a discriminating line of thought.
Why couldnt it be “support single black women with 4 kids and 3 jobs”?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:22 pmTO THE GUEST BLOGGER:
Thanks so much for taking the time to post something! It was a good catch, and congratulations on ThinkProgress posting it.
It’s really nice to see the community step up to the plate when there is an offer like reporting yourself.
I just wanted to make sure you know that readers of ThinkProgress like me appreciate your work.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:23 pm20 years from now EVEYBODY will yawn when somebody says “the war in Iraq was about Oil” even the right wing that are ignorant at the moment
September 18th, 2007 at 4:24 pmComment by AnonymousByChoice — September 18, 2007
I concur.
I also did not know of the blogfellows program.
http://blogfellows.thinkprogress.org/?page_id=5
September 18th, 2007 at 4:26 pmGeneral Patton: The Nuremberg-style tribunals ARE coming just like the Red Cross leaked two weeks ago. Many nations are participating in gathering the evidence on BushCo right now. He won’t be lucky enough to escape in exile to Paraguay because they will know exactly where to find him. His “dog days” are just around the corner.
The massive campus demonstrations are organizing now and the people WILL regain control of their democracy, regardless of whether Congress decides to participate or not.
It would behoove any “serious” candidate to get on the bandwagon now and begin to call for the immediate end to this occupation and return of our troops, a thorough investigation about Cheney’s secret energy task force meetings who were instrumental in the “Blood for Oil” campaign of sacrificing our military to line their pockets with gold, an end to the illegal spying, outsourcing of torture, the return of the write of Habeas Corpus, and an end to Bush’s chickenshit signing statements. EVERY DAMN ONE OF HIS SIGNING STATEMENTS NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED so the people can see just what a coward he really is in not being up front with his concept of placing himself above the laws of this land.
Just like OJ who got away with murder and considered himself to be above the law, Bush managed to squirm himself out of his scrapes and now we are being destroyed by this juvenile psycho-sadist.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:27 pmBTW…she needs a punch in the face.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:27 pmThat was disgraceful.
I’m retired.
Comment by Tryon — September 18, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Isn’t it amazing that every one of the pro-war, pro-occupation Republic trolls who visit this site is retired. Amazing…
And, Tryon, we could care less whether or not you think our posts are funny. Now, run along, they are waiting for you over at redstate.com
September 18th, 2007 at 4:31 pmI think she did it because the pro war crowd probably demanded it, telling her that they were pro troop and we were anti troop. So in other words, she is allowing the small right wing pro war minority, to assign official labels in the media to the left wing, while the left wing is stuck with what she gives us.
Of course theres an upside. She’ll be a shoe in for deputy Propaganda minister if Bush ends up pulling martial law on us.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:34 pmOne of today’s top internet searches according to Yahoo is Sally Field. HeyoooooooOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOoo, morons in the networks.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:36 pmThey follow their leaders without questioning the reasons behind the order. They are not “loving the fightâ€. They are surviving.
Comment by hellinabucket
And in some cases when they have followed the orders or their superiors, they, the troops end up in jail and their superiors remain free to continue to order the troops to do unspeakable things to the citizens of Iraq.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:37 pmIf 9-11 changed everything so did Katrina
September 18th, 2007 at 4:40 pmLet’s define “Support the Troops”. Support the troops means getting them out of Iraq and back to an American way of life and family. Why is that misinterpreted. I don’t want my friends, family or neighbors over there in that untenable mess so I support bringing the troops home.
It is a totally different question. “Do you Support the Troops Being in Iraq”? We who don’t get pilloried with the ‘label “You Don’t Support the Troops”.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:42 pmOne of today’s top internet searches according to Yahoo is Sally Field. HeyoooooooOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOoo, morons in the networks.
Looks like Mr P is namejacking again?
September 18th, 2007 at 4:42 pmDad of dead U.S. soldier kicked, beaten by
pro-war crowd in D.C.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=919
September 18th, 2007 at 4:42 pmListen Rightards –
The reason we want the troops home is because it is a no win situation, there is NO WINNING this fiasco. Our troops will be in harms way for as long as they are there and viewed as occupiers.
September 18th, 2007 at 4:49 pmBut in reality they will not be coming home for a long long time, our war profiteers and oil companies are making money on this and they care little about the lives of our guys.
Well said gus smith.
all too true as well bildobaggins
September 18th, 2007 at 4:49 pmGeroge bush the divider
September 18th, 2007 at 4:51 pmTO THE GUEST BLOGGER:
Thanks so much for taking the time to post something! It was a good catch, and congratulations on ThinkProgress posting it.
It’s really nice to see the community step up to the plate when there is an offer like reporting yourself.
I just wanted to make sure you know that readers of ThinkProgress like me appreciate your work.
Comment by AnonymousByChoice — September 18, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Ditto
September 18th, 2007 at 4:55 pmI’M TYPING VERY LOUDLY! SUPPORT THE TROOPS! DEFEATOCRATS! CUT AND RUN! *cough*!…aakkk..jesus, I’m sorry, I just can’t patriot like I used to..ok..I’m ok now..where was I? Oh yeah..CINDY SHEEHAN TARNISHES HER SON’S MEMORY! 9/11 WIDOWS ARE SELFISH HARPIES WHO LOVE DEATH AND HATE AMER–*kahaaaa, akk, akk* cough! ugg..ithinki’mgonnapuke..euuwwwaaaaaa..*splash*
September 18th, 2007 at 4:55 pmWhat about those of us who join to be a hero? Those that love to fight for RIGHT not just to fight. Those that would be just as happy if no one wanted to fight because they knew we would come to help not to further our own agenda.
I will not characterize all the troops or pretend that I speak for each and every one; however, they do a great job fighting at the behest of the country they trust and believe in. They hope that their beloved country would not abuse their trust. Individual troops do not have the luxury of challenging the overall foreign policy of the United States. If they are given a mission to secure in area, they will secure it. That is why it is up to EVERY CITIZEN to ensure that our military is not misused or abused – when it is, it is our DUTY to our troops as well as our country to correct these transgressions against our military as well as other countries.
You are only the good guy if you ACT like the good guy. Power is not the same as righteousness.
September 18th, 2007 at 5:01 pmthis, is a test…
September 18th, 2007 at 6:22 pmWindbag Bush and General Betray-us should not have wasted their time with their big War PR campaign. In fact, the numbers of people against the war ROSE following their “dog & Pony” show. I’ll let you decide which one is the dog. Numbers went from 26% pre charade show to 25% post charade show. Just goes to show ‘ya that people will no longer be fooled. It goes without saying that these numbers are what’s left of the GOP. Their numbers are in the 27% range now compared with 38% registered Dems and 35% Registered Independents. The new “third party” is the GOP.
September 18th, 2007 at 6:45 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE&NR=1
video of university of florida student being taserd by campus police over a question sen. kerry did not like. martial law folks with our freedom of speech no longer a freedom. i hope this guy sues the piss out of the school and his name take the place of university of florida. absolutely outrageous
September 18th, 2007 at 6:54 pmRingo: “Claiming to “support the troops but not the mission†is kind of like saying you support the Lakers, you just don’t want them to win.”
No, it means you wish the best for our troops but you don’t agree with the political decision to send them to war. Remember, this is a political war. It has no positive strategic significance whatsoever, only negative.
September 18th, 2007 at 7:33 pmsenator kerry didn’t. and that is not what was said. what do you think the military commissions act is? the incident itself is proof of martial law. come on folks
September 18th, 2007 at 7:34 pmDitto
Thanks to both of you: I’m glad you enjoyed it. I hope to continue posting here in the future.
September 18th, 2007 at 7:56 pmShe just wants to keep collecting her big, fat paycheck. Nothing but a corporate shill. If Ted Turner still owned CNN we’d actually hear more truth and facts instead of bootlicker bullshit from this retard.
September 18th, 2007 at 8:09 pmClaiming to “support the troops but not the mission†is kind of like saying you support the Lakers, you just don’t want them to win.
Or it’s like saying you support the Lakers (which I don’t very often, being a Celtics fan) and you’d send them to play basketball rather than football.
(I’m trying reeeeally hard to come up with a joke about athletic supporters, but it’s not working.)
September 18th, 2007 at 8:52 pmCNN wants to turn into Fox Abuse the News!!!
Saw it coming many many months ago just like the lies for war with Iran.
September 18th, 2007 at 9:02 pmI believe this poor idiot has things backwards… The ones wishing to stop the war, bring the troops home, restore real freedom, and build the USA back to place worth living in are REALLY supporting the troops…
The ones wishing to keep us in this conflict BASED ON LIES, are also therefore LIARS, wishing to keep the troops fighting, getting maimed for life, and dying for oil and greater corporate profits… these nice folks who protest to keep our troops away from their families and loved ones, and try to make sure that they remain and DIE… These nice folks ARE NOT SUPPORTING THE TROOPS… They are supporting continued state sponsored murder however, and that IS good for the economy… GAWD, don’t get me started!
September 18th, 2007 at 9:17 pmWhat year was it when Journalism died in this country??
September 18th, 2007 at 9:25 pmSmall distortions work best.
September 19th, 2007 at 1:23 amI stand in a vigil every Tuesday in Seattle FOR the troops; Spent, wasted, tired and abused.
I support the troops, I just don’t support this Administration’s abuse of the troops.
The troops are Bush’s army men in his play field as he gets his Commander Guy stuff on.
The troops have been used as human shields in Bush’s ever search for some meaning out of invading and occupying Iraq.
September 19th, 2007 at 1:52 amI am shocked, just shocked I tell you….
Um, actually on a serious note the media has been trying to make anti Iraq war protesters look unpatriotic from the beginning.
It is also quite counterintuitive for some to believe that sending troops off to die in another man’s civil war is somehow supporting them and somehow patriotic.
September 19th, 2007 at 8:55 amTyrone wrote : “Joining the military isn’t about cute college benefits.”
Hey Tyrone, do you actually know anyone who is actually in the military (and playing in the bathtub with GI Joe dolls doesn’t count)
For the record everyone I know that joined the military joined the military for one of two reasons
1) No local jobs
2) Money for college
Don’t kid yourself silly child. Many of the young men and woman in the military joined to improve their lives, whether it was for steady employment with benefits or for money for college, many of the people serving in the military have no intentions of staying forever and don’t appreciate bottom feeders like you who would just send them off to fight in another man’s civil war without a second thought.
As someone who has two cousins serving in the current debacle – people like you “Tyrone” disgust me. People like you need to get a life besides a life of starting conflicts with whomever you please, often times people you don’t even know, just for the sake of argument.
People like Tyrone have no life. They are losers, so they go to websites and start arguments with people, arguments they know they will not win. Why? I’m not sure why, but people like Tyrone are just bitter in life and they are never happy unless they are starting a conflict.
Tyrone must also lack intelligence, because everything that spews out of his keyboard only reinforces the point of view of the readers on here, your not changing any minds Tyrone.
But feel free to waste your time! Be my guest to make right wingers look even more clueless and disgusting that usual. Thank you!
September 19th, 2007 at 9:15 amYou could say that they meant they were the same people. They were war supporters and troop supporters. You could say that this is what they meant, but you’d be wrong.
September 19th, 2007 at 3:17 pmGrand Theft America, you are exactly right. That’s why I joined the Air Force in 1980 and that was the enlistment reason of everyone I knew.
Sadly, we still don’t have very many civilian alternatives to military service, like apprenticeships, for those not college bound. And now this pointless and tragic war has removed even the military option as a viable alternative.
September 19th, 2007 at 7:54 pmGood God, I feel like I’ve gone through the looking glass!
My car has been vandalized twice in the last week because of my “Impeach Bush” and “Create Peace” bumperstickers.
I’m told that I “hate the troops” because I want our soldiers to have proper armor and equipment.
I’m told that I “hate the troops” because I want our soldiers to have proper rest between deployments.
I’m told that I “hate the troops” because I want returning vets to have proper medical care and mental health services.
I’m told that I “hate the troops” because I want returning vets to have a home to come home to that hasn’t been repossessed and a job that hasn’t been filled by someone else.
I’m told over and over and over again that I “hate the troops” because I WANT THEM TO COME HOME to their families.
What the f*ck is wrong with this country???
September 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pm