In a new CBS poll released yesterday, most Americans “say the plan President Bush announced last week for troop reductions doesn’t go far enough. … Nearly half want Mr. Bush to remove even more troops by next summer than he proposed in his address. Forty-seven percent say the plan to bring troop numbers down to pre-surge levels next year should go even further.”

Additionally, just 31 percent say escalation “has made things in Iraq better, while more than half (51 percent) say it’s had no impact. Eleven percent say it’s made things worse.”

The Bush Administration’s “parting shots” of the “last throes” of his botched presidency. The american people have had a bellyful of his shenanigans, lies, and in-your-face corruption. He’d better be thinking of going into exile in Paraguay when he’s out of office. He’ll be the most vilified and repudiated president EVER in the history of this country.
September 18th, 2007 at 9:49 ambut alas, Bush is our decider.
September 18th, 2007 at 9:50 amThanks TP.
September 18th, 2007 at 9:56 am82% believe that the surge is somewhat working, even if only in a mediocre sense!
The american people have had a bellyful of his shenanigans, lies, and in-your-face corruption. Comment by satirev
And yet the streets are empty as long as American Idol is on. Sad.
September 18th, 2007 at 9:56 amBush doesn’t even attempt to represent the will of the American people. As long as his friends in the oil business are getting richer, and Cheney’s stock in Halliburton continues to rise, Bush is successful.
September 18th, 2007 at 10:00 amLet’s keep our eye on the goal– it is not to get the troops out of Iraq [who cares what the people in a Democracy want?], but, rather, to drop the whole, nasty ball of wax in the next president’s lap–that is the metric of success!
September 18th, 2007 at 10:03 amUN mandate expires in December 2007
On June 3, 2007, the Iraqi Parliament voted 85 to 59 to require the Iraqi government to consult with Parliament before requesting additional extensions of the UN Security Council Mandate for Coalition operations in Iraq.[10] The current UN mandate expires in December 2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Multinational_force_in_Iraq
WHATS THE BEST YOUR ASKED TO LEAVE ANYWAY
September 18th, 2007 at 10:03 amWASHINGTON - Democrats are poised to delay money for the Iraq war by several weeks, giving them time to calculate their next move and see if Republican support for President Bush’s policies deteriorate.
September 18th, 2007 at 10:05 amWatch this and just see if it doesn’t get you out of your chair to the phone.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/26912
President’s office U Florida:
September 18th, 2007 at 10:10 am1-352-392-1311 or president@ufl.edu
The GOP thinks the same pro-war platform for 06 that lost them the house, senate, governors and state legislatures will have different results in 08, even though the war is less popular.
I say; LET THEM!
If they want to alienate the vast majority of Americans, who are we to stop them?
September 18th, 2007 at 10:14 amTobey ,
September 18th, 2007 at 10:16 amyou mean the same democrats who granted bush increased authority to spy on Americans ,in excess of what was even asked for by the administration ?
Near as I can tell political calculations out weigh evrything else ,including morality and common sense .
Romeu’sDelight sez:
And just where are you pulling that number from, RD?
I call bullsh!t. Show your math.
September 18th, 2007 at 10:18 amCorporations own both sides of the aisle ,it’s just good cop bad cop !The American people and the rest of the planet are the real losers ,while the rise of global coporate government arranges the coup de grat !
September 18th, 2007 at 10:21 am“…the surge is somewhat working, even if only in a mediocre sense!”
Comment by Romeo’sDelight
LOL
kind of like your brain, eh?
September 18th, 2007 at 10:22 amDuh most Americans want Bush to resign and go into exile in Paraguay.
September 18th, 2007 at 10:30 amThere will be no revolution as long as the mall stays open !
September 18th, 2007 at 10:36 amNo impeachment ,wasn’t that what Nancy pelosi said !
Now ,we have a presidency which through the use of signing statements. ignore 30 % of all the laws passed since 911.Try American citizens on secret evicence ,or not even try them,lie transparently to congress and to the American people ,spy without over sight on the citizenry , torture and conduct wars without their approval !
Treason is no longer an impeachable offence and the democrats have been where ?
Even a con like the old shell game require 3 shells .For the most literate democracy in the worlds history 2 will do ,apparently .
September 18th, 2007 at 10:40 amWake up people ,the democrats are bought and paid for !!!!!!!
September 18th, 2007 at 10:41 amHas anyone else seen the article on BlackWater’s killing of 8 unarmed civilians and the Iraqi government has asked them all to leave the country because Bremer gave them total immunity to Iraqi law while he was Emporer of Iraq?
Just another typical day in the sorry-assed lives of BushCo.
September 18th, 2007 at 10:47 amFunny enough, America is more upset with Congress then Bush.
September 18th, 2007 at 10:53 amFunny enough, America is more upset with Congress then Bush.
Comment by Roger_Roger — September 18, 2007 @ 10:53 am
Only because there aren’t enough votes to impeach …… yet.
September 18th, 2007 at 10:57 amMan, there seems to be a lot of anger here. Can we refrain from name calling? Or is that required?
Comment by Romeo’sDelight
I’m an idiot.
LOL-ers.
Comment by “Raven”
(LOL)
September 18th, 2007 at 10:58 amThere are corporations whose finances eclipse those of most other countries ,who thru the WTO can pressure lawmakers around the world to do their bidding ,who pay virtually no taxes and use slave and forced labor to produce their wares !
September 18th, 2007 at 11:02 amRALPH NADER WAS RIGHT ,A GOVERNMENT OF, BY AND FOR THE CORPORATIONS !
Raven.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:02 am?????
Comment by Raven — September 18, 2007 @ 10:58 am
Looks like Raven gets the “First to be Namejacked” Award this AM.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:02 amSee U at wallmart .
September 18th, 2007 at 11:03 am82% believe that the surge is somewhat working, even if only in a mediocre sense!
Comment by Romeo’sDelight — September 18, 2007 @ 9:56 am
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And yet none of them can tell you how it is working, what progress is being made, or even what the definition of “working” is. They simply have heard “the surge is working” repeated so many times that they believe it. I can easily make a cogent argument for how the surge has failed, backed by evidence and facts. Yet, everytime I hear someone say “the surge is working”, that is all they have.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:08 amWe’re waist deep in the Big Muddy, and the Big Fool says to push on-Pete Seeger
September 18th, 2007 at 11:11 am#
I hate being a woman. Tonka Trucks and Nascar, all the way.
I have a mullet.
Comment by Raven — September 18, 2007 @ 11:12 am
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Good morning Mr. P.
So, ThinkProgress, how is that registration process coming along?
September 18th, 2007 at 11:13 amI hate being a woman. Tonka Trucks and Nascar, all the way.
I have a mullet.
Good morning mr. p, I see you looked in the mirror this morning! Gotta suck to be you, huh?
September 18th, 2007 at 11:13 amI have a mullet.
Comment by Raven
Actually, it’s a swordfish…
September 18th, 2007 at 11:13 amRaven
???????????
Not sure what you’re getting at.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:15 amActually, it’s a swordfish…
Comment by Raven — September 18, 2007 @ 11:13 am
With lemon and capers?
September 18th, 2007 at 11:15 amFly Rods and Climbing Harnesses, all the way.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:16 am“With lemon and capers?”
Comment by upside00
Sorry, still swimming, leaping and skewering…
September 18th, 2007 at 11:18 am:)
Not sure what you’re getting at.
Comment by Romeo’sDelight
Perhaps you are mistaking me for a poster who gives a rats ass whether you get it or not?
September 18th, 2007 at 11:19 amOkay Raven,
September 18th, 2007 at 11:21 amThanks for your time.
Sorry, still swimming, leaping and skewering…
:)
Comment by Raven — September 18, 2007 @ 11:18 am
That works, too. Howz things down your way today? I just got back from N. Michigan and a bike race and some great sailing.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:21 amOkay Raven,
Thanks for your time.
Comment by Romeo’sDelight — September 18, 2007 @ 11:21 am
Remeo.
this is jut one of our pet trolls here namejacking. He has no life, so this is his way of fighting the N. Virginia Blues, after a hard night on meth, Mountain Dew and Cheetos.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:23 amStill waiting for you to show your math, RD…
September 18th, 2007 at 11:24 am31 percent say escalation “has made things in Iraq better, while more than half (51 percent) say it’s had no impact.
82% feel that the surge has NOT made Iraq worse.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:28 am82% feel that the surge has NOT made Iraq worse.
Comment by Romeo’sDelight — September 18, 2007 @ 11:28 am
Frankly things can’t get much worse in Iraq. So your point is well pointless.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:31 am82% believe that the surge is somewhat working, even if only in a mediocre sense!
Comment by Romeo’sDelight — September 18, 2007 @ 9:56 am
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82% feel that the surge has NOT made Iraq worse.
Comment by Romeo’sDelight — September 18, 2007 @ 11:28 am
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Is this your definition of success? Not making Iraq worse?
September 18th, 2007 at 11:32 amRomeo’sDelight sez:
Nice attempt to move the goalposts, RD, but no dice.
Here’s what you originally claimed:
Apparently, you’re now defining “working” as “not actually making things worse”. A major stretch, even for a mouthbreathing neocon apologist such as yourself.
Looks like my original call of bullsh!t was right on the money.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:35 amComment by Chris L — September 18, 2007 @ 11:13 am
PHONY ALERT!!! PHONY ALERT!!! PHONY ALERT!!! PHONY ALERT!!!
September 18th, 2007 at 11:39 amHey TripMaster Monkey,
2 things.
1) Shall we define mediocre? Let’s!
adjective
1. of only ordinary or moderate quality; neither good nor bad; barely adequate.
2. rather poor or inferior.
That pretty much sums up my original post regarding the 82%
2) Who said I was a “mouth breathing neocon apologist”?
September 18th, 2007 at 11:41 amNice try, but now I call BullSh!t
hey upside00
September 18th, 2007 at 11:44 amthis can be an awesome time of year up north when the weather cooperates.
were you sailing on the big lake?
meet me at the zoo sometime…
I hate being a woman-comment by Raven
Does this mean there may a sex change in your future? Just asking.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:50 amRaven,
It was at the tip of the Peninsula, by Northport, sailing towards Charlevoix. Weather was beautiful most of the trip.
Am off and on the zoo today. First day back home.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:53 amI hate being a woman-comment by Raven
Does this mean there may a sex change in your future? Just asking.
Comment by Uncle Ho — September 18, 2007 @ 11:50 am
This was just mr. p, namejacking again, since he seems to get whacked when he posts as himself.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:54 amIs this your definition of success? Not making Iraq worse?
Comment by Chris L — September 18, 2007 @ 11:32 am
When the going gets tough, the tough move the goalposts.
September 18th, 2007 at 11:55 am“Does this mean there may a sex change in your future? Just asking.”
Comment by Uncle Ho
Sex hasn’t changed much for 35 years, I’m not expecting it to be any different from here on out…
September 18th, 2007 at 12:01 pmRomeo’sDelight sez:
Let’s not. The qualifier “mediocre” does not change the meaning of “working”to “not actually making things worseâ€, your desperate attempts to distort the English language notwithstanding.
I did. Given the content of your posts to date, it’s a fair and accurate assessment. If you don’t like it, you have only yourself to blame.
September 18th, 2007 at 12:28 pmThis poll provides good information, and improves my opinion of the general public, in that they understand what will happen, versus what they want to happen.
September 18th, 2007 at 3:16 pm