Well then, you’re right there with Joe Lieberman, the most reviled member of the U.S. Senate. Congrats!

People are beginning to realize that the media is the enabler for these lying thieving toetappers. I think it goes even beyond that. The fact that NOT ONE of these pundits have lost work or suffered for being so wrong over the last 7 years makes me wonder if they’re in on it too. At least some of them. I mean could a person make more innacurate statements, assessments or predictions than Bill Kristol? And then he is awarded a NEW column in Time magazine!

This cannot be coincidence or dumb luck. The fix is in.

No, that’s exactly 180 degrees off. Al Qaeda is able to set up shop in Iraq BECAUSE we’re there. If we’re not there, al Qaeda has no reason to be there and the Iraqi people will not allow them to be there. In fact, the Anbar Province “success” that Bush keeps bellowing about is because Iraqis kicked al Qaeda out of the area, not American troops. And, in Anbar, they’re Sunnis. In most of the country, they’re Shiites and they don’t like al Qaeda at all!

The only guy in Iraq before the invasion who even claimed al Qaeda affiliation was Zarqawi and the Bush administration turned down three opportunities provided by the military to kill him because they thought killing him would undercut a political argument.

I agree with what you’re saying. It’s a shame that it has come to this–that the public has learned it cannot trust either the government or the media. I don’t think, ultimately, that this cynicism is good for the country, but we don’t have any alternative. Both the government and the mainstream media–especially the punditocracy–have proven themselves, time and time again, to be untrustworthy.

Assume that al Qaeda is trying to establish a base in Iraq.

What does that have to do with the security of the United States?

al Qaeda has a presence in various parts of the world, most notably in Pakistan.

We can’t go around the world establishing bases everywhere al Qaeda has a presence.

Or is that concept a little to difficult for you to understand?

Something about Eisenhower and being concerned about the military industrial complex comes to mind.

What amazes me is that nearly 70% of Americans want us out within 18 months and the Republicans are able to get up anywhere and say that they still support this war. There is an obvious disconnect somewhere. Either all of these polls are incorrect, or these folks are going to lose by such a huge margin in ‘08 they won’t be able to get elected dogcatcher.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/18/wrongness/index.html

that the media has been pushing this narrative that the MoveOn ad was bad for the left, and that the general’s credibility is unimpeachable.

People have not only tuned out the President and his cronies, but they are really beginning to tune out the media, especially the punditocracy. THAT is huge.

There is no “in case” here. The facts on the ground prove definitively that Al Qaeda is in Iraq and seeking to establish a sanctuary there. As I showed above, even the leaders of your own party acknowledge that. See Sen. Hillary Clinton’s New York Times interview and text of Levin-Reed Amendment.

Comment by Jake D. — September 18, 2007 @ 11:07 pm

Technically true — especially since most polls have about a 3% margin of error. But what IS significant is that there was no appreciable increase in support after Bush gave his sales pitch. Numbers going down — even by 4 points — is still not numbers going up.

Bush can no longer sway the American people to his side. I can’t remember that happening with any president since Nixon during his last days in office.

Even my die hard republican brother in Kansas isn’t buying it anymore. It took him six years, but he’s had his awakening.

From the few people who could even stomach looking at him during his last speech, not to mention listening to his overt and in-your-face lies, I’d say that “Bush’s Presidency is ‘Officially’ Over!”

Thanks, big guy!

The Bubble Boy is no doubt convinced that history will someday treat him with the adulation he deserves.

And this is the same crowd that demands absolute, complete certainty that Iraq did not have WMD, but is eager to bomb Iran in case they might try to get a nuclear program.

What a disjointed lot.

They have not yet succeeded as of yet, mostly because of the presence of the U.S. military in Iraq. If we leave completely and prematurely leave Iraq, Al Qaeda’s efforts will be much easier.

Comment by Exley — September 19, 2007 @ 1:33 am

Bullshit.

The only thing stopping wannabe “al Qaeda” salfi jihadist in Iraq are Sunni warlords who are also fighting the U.S. occupation. We leave, “al Qaeda in Iraq” (a separate group of whackos, think islamic Timothy McVeigh’s, trying to leverage the “brand name” of “al Qaeda”) is dead as hell.