#195
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — September 19, 2007 @ 11:49 am

You assume that each event recorded in Genesis 2 happened in strict, sequential order. Believe you can assume that about the opening verses of Genesis 1 because the text uses the markers for a Jewish day – the day starts at sundown, but this doesn’t necessarily apply to Genesis 2.

You would have done better to have asked me who recorded Genesis 1? Some Genesis scholars say that Genesis one is from God’s viewpoint of creation, and that Genesis 2 is from Adam’s viewpoint of creation.

It’s simply different accounts of the same, related events.

This explanation is adequate for me. Is it adequate for you?

My suggestion is that if you don’t believe it don’t bother yourself with it.

Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.(NIV)

Besides, “…had formed…” is not the same as “…next formed…”

Who do you suppose taught Adam to talk?

BTW, who taught you to talk, and who taught your teachers to talk? Get the point?

There must be a joke there somewhere.

Comment by Ringo

I agree, condoms sure don’t support themselves…

There must be a joke there somewhere.

Comment by Snidely Whiplash
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Can’t do that right now, I’m at work.

I will check later though.

Comment by Snidely Whiplash
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As I said, I support condoms and education as well.

You might also read this BBC article from 2005:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4433069.stm

It’s a complicated issue, yet it seems undeniable that the promotion of abstinence has worked well in Uganda….although not perfectly.

We are human afterall.

“In the first two years since the U.S.-funded focus on abstinence Uganda’s rate of HIV infection has nearly doubled.”
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The article that you linked to quotes Daniele Anastasion in one sentence, yet offers no evidence to support her claim. Also, since the abstinence programs started in the early 1990’s, AIDS rates dropped aprox. 70% before the year 2000, so even if they have doubled since then the number is still far lower in Uganda than elsewhere in sub-Saharan Africa.

See here: http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/ed007047-0e93-4964-9fba-aa887d42817e.asp

Personally I have no problem with condoms and education, but still, I think that teaching abstinence to children and the youth (and fidelity to adults) is the best long term solution.

Comment by bitblt — September 18, 2007 @ 4:26 pm

And there we have it in a nutshell from the Right: guys are just about sex and women are just about being taken advantage of. Women certainly don’t have sex because they like it. Horrors!

No one is advocating irresponsible behavior. In fact, the Left has been advocating for responsible sexual behavior for decades. It’s just that the Right doesn’t think *any* sexual behavior outside marriage can ever be “responsible,” which is why they advocate against teaching responsible sexual behavior.

hello?

Wonder why they could teach this in the first century but we can’t in the twentieth-first.

Why is it society can’t tell our young people that they can protect themselves physically and emotionally by waiting until they’re married to have sex. You won’t die from abstaining. No part of your body will turn blue, and you avoid a load of guilt – at least for many.

Seems to me to be very telling when a culture can’t agree on how to train their children in the area of sex education.

Apparently this can’t even be discussed on TP. Don’t believe I’ve see a post that suggests an alternative as safe as one man one woman forever.

Is this the best we have to offer: condoms and abortions?

So I go into a convenience store yesterday where a young clerk with a swollen belly takes my money. She looks like she’s not out of her teen years. Married or unmarried? Don’t know. It doesn’t really matter. There are enough unmarried mothers working in convenience stores to make the situation I describe wholly representative.

Young women who, for whatever reason, become mothers before they’re ready, and they’re stuck as convenience store clerks – forever. Perhaps it’s to escape abuse. Perhaps it’s because they were “in love.” Perhaps it’s because they want a baby “to love me.”

What they wanted doesn’t really matter any more, because they’re never going to get it.

Some irresponsible guy gets what he wants; the woman gets some companionship, and her greatest hopes are right out the window. Repeat cycle with her offspring.

Men know more ways to get over on women. That’s what abortion and teaching safe sex are about – getting over on women.

Believe I’ve read both the following: Girls involve in athletics tend to have a lower pregnancy rate, and girls who put off having sex until they’re married tend to have more wealth.

At the moment I can’t point to a link on these. If you’re interested in the second – have more wealth, you might search http://www.family.org – that’s Dr. Dobson’s site.

* * * crickets chirping * * *

awesome. have a bakesale then moron, and leave the government money for shit that isn’t fantasy-based.

…. aaaaah ha ha ha ha! *inhales* …. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!

ha ha ha ha ha

you make it to easy, Ringo. The facts are on our side.

“In the first two years since the U.S.-funded focus on abstinence Uganda’s rate of HIV infection has nearly doubled.”

“In the first two years since the U.S.-funded focus on abstinence Uganda’s rate of HIV infection has nearly doubled.”

“In the first two years since the U.S.-funded focus on abstinence Uganda’s rate of HIV infection has nearly doubled.”

Plain and simple, Ringo.

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/rough/2007/07/uganda_the_cond.html

Something you want to admit? Dad? DAD! Finally I found you!

Comment by Micro Macro — September 18, 2007 @ 3:31 pm

Go ask yer “father” **cough… cough** to explain it to ya, if you can find him.