Bush inartfully suggests Saddam killed Mandela.
Bush inartfully suggests Saddam killed Mandela.
In a press conference this morning, President Bush tried to assert that Saddam’s brutal rule over Iraq wiped the country clean of potential democratic reformers — individuals who may have possessed leadership skills like former South African President Nelson Mandela. In doing so, Bush inartfully suggested Saddam killed Mandela:
I thought an interesting comment was made — somebody said to me, I heard somebody say, “Now, where’s Mandela?” Well, Mandela’s dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas.
For the record, Nelson Mandela is still alive while Saddam Hussein is dead. Watch it:
Nelson Mandela was a strong opponent of the war in Iraq. Prior to the war, he condemned Bush as “a president who can’t think properly and wants to plunge the world into holocaust.” “Why does the United States behave so arrogantly?” he asked, adding, “They just want the oil. We must expose this as much as possible.”
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The nose just keeps on growing and growing. When will he take to hagning an American flag off of it?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:04 pmFunny, the more he talks, the more he proves what an idiot he is. Makes you wonder, how is it that all these people who meet him "suppossedly" get so wow'd by him.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:05 pmCrawford's Lost Idiot strikes again.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:05 pmMakes you wonder, how is it that all these people who meet him “suppossedly†get so wow’d by him.
Comment by Politicians all Suq — September 20, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
Maybe Darth has the shotgun loaded and they are afraid NOT to be wow'ed.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:06 pmI think I know what he was trying to say, but he has to be the most inarticulate rube that ever stood behind that podium.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:07 pmSomeone commented on another Bush thread about the lack of Rove's guiding hand. I know that Bush is famous for his verbal gaffes, but either he's doing it a lot more lately or the media is displaying them more often.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:09 pmAlright. I admire some of your logic but this one just flat floored me. You sound like a bible toting literal evangelical. Never hear of nuance? If you read the words again, and this time actuall impart meaning in the statement instead of concentrating only on the words (ie: the whole and not its parts) you will come to the only possible conclusion, and it is not the literal claim you make. Either you ignored the meaning of the statement or you only care to impose the spin that illogical inductive reasoning could muster. Either way this dissapoints me in your logic.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:10 pmYes and we ,the USA supported him and armed him in a war against a sovereign nation, Iran, because we couldn't overthrow it a third time .
September 20th, 2007 at 12:10 pm....but he has to be the most inarticulate rube that ever stood behind that podium.
Comment by raynman — September 20, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Guess that's what happens when the rover's hand got pulled out of the sockpuppet. Leaves a very wide hole behind.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:11 pmBush has gone from mildly incoherent to completely incoherent. I'm certain that they've got him on mood-altering pharmeceuticals.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:12 pmRaynman -- if you think you know what Bush was trying to say, could you enlighten me? Because, frankly I am stumped.
I hope he didn't truly mean Nelson Mandela. I mean -- I know this guy doesn't even know the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia, but surely he's not so stupid he really thinks Mandela got murdered by Hussein?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:12 pmThe Crawford Communicator strikes again.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:13 pmrepugs have put up a resolution at this time
to put the first steps on the record toward
suppressing free speech...
i don't recall resolutions that condemned the swift boaters
or those who attacked max cleland, and so on...
dispicable...
September 20th, 2007 at 12:13 pmWell, Mandela’s dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas.
“That makes sense to me, don't it?â€
September 20th, 2007 at 12:13 pm~ George W. Bush, 2006-06-06
my jaw broke when it hit my desk just now - holy fecking bleck is he INSANE?
SPIN THIS JAKE -SPIN IT I SAY!
September 20th, 2007 at 12:14 pmJesus and Mary, Mother of God! I know the man was trying to be metaphorical, but he's come completely unhinged! Republicans, I give you your president. Enjoy.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:14 pmPerhaps we should sought through the 3/4 of a million dead corpses and see if we can find nelson among them ?Maybe he's alive and living as a refugee along with 4 million others along the Syrian border ?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:14 pmComment by missmolly — September 20, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
You are giving Dubya WAAAAY too much credit for his "lack of stupidity".
Unfortunately, he is playing to his base; the 29%ers who have an IQ to match, and watch roid-rage wrestling and think it is real, which kinda gives you your first clue.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:15 pmI’m certain that they’ve got him on mood-altering pharmeceuticals.
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Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — September 20, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
I think George went clinically psychotic quite some time ago, and he's propped up full time by pills these days. And I'm not being flip.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:15 pmisnt there a doctor that can declare our preznit unfit for duty at anyhting like on star trek? yet again a fictional show has more safeguards than reality.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:15 pmjake? have you managed to gather some spin for this guy yet? im waiting.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:16 pmI hope he didn’t truly mean Nelson Mandela. I mean — I know this guy doesn’t even know the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia, but surely he’s not so stupid he really thinks Mandela got murdered by Hussein?
Comment by missmolly — September 20, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Doesn't know Austria from Australia, either.
I think his intent is pretty obvious: he meant to say something about how there was no Nelson Mandela to rise to the presidency after Saddam was deposed because Saddam had executed all the potential Mandelas.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pmAfter listening to this I too am beginning to wonder if there are limits to free speach !Think of the embarrasment we would be saved if someone would censor this guy .
September 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pmhis speechwriter must have committed seppuku today.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pmI believe he was referring to Martha & the Vandellas.
So, we should be Dancing in the Streets, celebrating!
And it wasn't Mandela that killed Saddam, it was George Michaels.
And Al Sharpton is George Allen's grandmother.
Geesh, don't you reporters know anything?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:17 pmWow...this thread is 100% troll-free.
Even Shakey Jake shies away from defending Chimpy in this instance.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pmAnother Day.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pmMore Lies.
poet laureats around the world will attend the funeral of yet another butchered metaphor in the capitol of the united states.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pmSo, Bush is stating that Saddam (metaphorically) killed terrorists?
"Before he became vice president, Dick Cheney and the U.S. State Department denounced Nelson Mandela, leader of the African National Congress, as a terrorist."
September 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pmBarely able to repeat what he heard someone else say. How many meds is he on? Scary...............
September 20th, 2007 at 12:19 pmOhmygosh, just when I think he can't be any more stupider, there he goes. Am I missing some context here?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pmnope, just coherence...no context needed if it cant be understood anyway
September 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pmBush has gone from mildly incoherent to completely incoherent. I’m certain that they’ve got him on mood-altering pharmeceuticals.
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — September 20, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
He has been completely incoherent for some time.
“And so, in my State of the — my State of the Union — or state — my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation — I asked Americans to give 4,000 years — 4,000 hours over the next — the rest of your life — of service to America.â€
~ George W. Bush, Bridgeport, CT, 2002-09-04
“Like generations before us, we have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom.â€
~ George “Earth-to-Mothership†W. Bush at GOP Convention, 2004-09-02
“I’ve made mistakes.. I haven’t done cocaine during the past seven, no twenty-five years.â€
~ George W. Bush
“Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.â€
~ George W. Bush
“We’ll let our friends be the peacekeepers and the great country called America will be the pacemakers.â€
~ George W. Bush
“Russia's big and so is China.â€
~ George W. Bush, G-8 summit, 2006-07-17
I could keep posting almost forever, but you get the idea.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:21 pmDoesn’t know Austria from Australia, either.
Comment by gummitch — September 20, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
Albania from Alabama?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:22 pm“Like generations before us, we have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom.â€
~ George “Earth-to-Mothership†W. Bush at GOP Convention, 2004-09-02
you...fecking....bastage....cant ......BREATHE....laughing....tooo....hard
September 20th, 2007 at 12:22 pmi swear some day george will come up with the deadly joke -laughing millions into early graves due to his own stupidity....nearly got me there
September 20th, 2007 at 12:24 pmWell played, mr. president. Well played.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:24 pmNice, W's rambling, bizarre answer is right up there with Miss Teen South Carolina's take on why people can't find the US on a map
September 20th, 2007 at 12:25 pmI have to say, I really liked the Harry Potter outfits he and Howard were wearing in that thread from yesterday. Did they really not think people would be taking their pictures, and those pix would be all over the world immediately.
Question, was that pic taken before or after they wore the pointy hats and the big round glasses, and didn't anyone get that moment on film too?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:25 pmNice to see the humor come back to a TP thread. Haven't seen one this funny in weeks and weeks.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:27 pmmost anyone who COULD leave iraq has left...
September 20th, 2007 at 12:28 pmthat would be the people of any means and education...
the mid-to-upper classes... the "mandelas"...
it's not just ETHNIC cleansing...
...
kinda like what he's working on here in the states...
...
I think Bush probably meant that Saddam killed all dissidents--those who could have taken the lead in Iraq now. Pointing out that Mandela is alive missed that point.
But, (1) Bush should have known that in advance of trying to remake Iraqi society;
(2) Mandela was a poor example of Bush's point, as Mandela did not advocate (as far as I know) democracy through violent regime change.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:29 pmyou…fecking….bastage….cant ……BREATHE….laughing….tooo….hard
Comment by bob h — September 20, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
You're welcome =D
September 20th, 2007 at 12:29 pmwheres jake?
his take on this his spin would surely make me laugh for another hour. cmon jake dont pussnboots out on me
September 20th, 2007 at 12:30 pmMelson Nandela hung with Saddam, but he didn't hang him.
Somebody once said, ...I heard someone say once that...umm, you can
fool a man once, but you can't make him drink. Yeah, that's it.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:30 pmthats it jake? woosey. cmon - spin his idocy
September 20th, 2007 at 12:30 pmspin jake spin....your the forrest gump of bushes fanbois
September 20th, 2007 at 12:31 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss the topic, please let me know.
Comment by Jake D. — September 20, 2007 @ 12:30 pm
It's your dime, Jake. Go for it.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:31 pmdont disappoint jake your being called out
September 20th, 2007 at 12:32 pmBush is a dumbass.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:33 pmBush is a dumbass.
Comment by Kay — September 20, 2007 @ 12:33 pm
But he is the Repug's dumbass. And makes them all SOOO proud.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:34 pmGeez, just when we were havin' fun, You-Know-Who shows up and makes yet another incoherent comment.
Kinda like the big scene at the end of "O Brother Where Art thou" when Homer Stokes tries to stop the Foggy Bottom Boys...
"We all were havin' fun... Shakey..."
September 20th, 2007 at 12:35 pmBetween this post and the last two, I think Bush is starting to mentally lose it.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:37 pmI think his intent is pretty obvious: he meant to say something about how there was no Nelson Mandela to rise to the presidency after Saddam was deposed because Saddam had executed all the potential Mandelas.
Comment by gummitch — September 20, 2007 @ 12:17 pm
Thanks, gummitch -- I usually pick up on metaphorical references pretty well, but this one was garbled enough that I really didn't have a clue what he meant.
I suspect that one of Bush's handlers gave him the metaphor to use without giving him the proper training along with it.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:37 pm“Like generations before us, we have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom.â€
~ George “Earth-to-Mothership†W. Bush at GOP Convention, 2004-09-02
--------------
Unfortunately, he misinterpreted the message from 'beyond the stars'...
It actually was:
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
September 20th, 2007 at 12:37 pmWas Bush trying to use a full-Nelson or just a half-Nelson?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:37 pmCome on jaked. Explain to us why bush never preps for anything. He always just "wings" it. This is the hallmark of a C minus student and an F minus president.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:38 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss the topic, please let me know.
Comment by Jake D.
That. is. just. Lame.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:39 pmMaybe Bush actually meant to say "Mandala", which is a Sanskrit word for circle or "completion". In Buddhism, the mandala is a painted circle that represents the cosmos metaphysically or symbolically, a microcosm of the Universe from the human perspective. Buddhists meditate before the circle of the mandala to go into a trance-like state where consciousness and subconsciousness are joined.
He must have been talking about Mandalas, right? Bush could not possibly have meant to say "Mandela's dead", could he when Mandela is not dead. He could not possibly be that big an out-of-touch blithering drooling brain-dead idiot and national embarrassment could he?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:39 pm#44
"2) Mandela was a poor example of Bush’s point, as Mandela did not advocate (as far as I know) democracy through violent regime change."
Actually, he *did* advocate violence as a legitimate mechanism for regime change by the ANC in South Africa; that's why he was sentenced to life in prison.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:39 pmWasn't Allawi supposed to be the Mandela of Iraq? Or was it Chalabi?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:40 pmWayne: "I could keep posting almost forever, but you get the idea."
Right. There are literally books of them. One of my personal favorites:
"I understand small business growth. I was one."
September 20th, 2007 at 12:43 pm#44, jcasey@thenonsequitur.com,
"I think Bush probably meant that Saddam killed all dissidents–those who could have taken the lead in Iraq now. Pointing out that Mandela is alive missed that point."
Congratulations! You are the only other person here who understood the rather obvious historical analogy Bush was making.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:43 pmNice, W’s rambling, bizarre answer is right up there with Miss Teen South Carolina’s take on why people can’t find the US on a map
Comment by KingCranky
Maybe Dumbya was one of those kids who grew up without a map. He should be the first recipient of the new Maps for Kids program. /snark
September 20th, 2007 at 12:44 pmDubya:
"You mean there are Shiaa and Sunnis in the Muslim culture? WOW!! Who'da thunk? Guess I got an "Incomplete" in that Mid-East History class. Too busy cheerleadin' and stuff."
September 20th, 2007 at 12:45 pmAs others have mentioned above, it's obvious what Bush meant to imply - that there really aren't any "potential Mandelas" left in Iraq.
His inability to understand why that might be the case is the spooky part.
It's also incredibly spooky, to me at least, that it's clear that Bush actually believes the things he spouts. He believes that history will vindicate him; he believes that he will be seen as a great leader.
Let's only hope that this unbelievable narcissistic rube doesn't drag us further into the abyss.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:46 pm#59, Was Bush trying to use a full-Nelson or just a half-Nelson?
-Comment by Doc Rock
Doc, I believe it was the 'Dead Nelson'.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:46 pmThis is funny. The original quote was something like "Where's the next Mandela? Sadly, they're all dead now."
He doesn't listen to his advisors, so this is what we get: authentic Texas Idiot jibberish.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:47 pmBush was a C student before he was an F student.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:49 pmOne of my personal favorites:
“I understand small business growth. I was one.â€
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — September 20, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
lmao
My personal favorite Bushism, that I use quite a bit:
“That makes sense to me, don't it?â€
September 20th, 2007 at 12:50 pm~ George W. Bush, 2006-06-06
Memo to Junior:
Crawl back under the rock you were conceived on.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:51 pm“I understand small business growth. I was one.â€
Comment by Ret. Col. Jack Ripper — September 20, 2007 @ 12:43 pm
I like that quote.
It's especially ironic since one of the investors in his small business was Salem bin Laden, Usama's half-brother.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:53 pmMy favorite Bushism:
"And so, in my State of the - my State of the Union - or state - my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation - I asked Americans to give 4,000 years - 4,000 hours over the next - the rest of your life - of service to America. That's what I asked - 4,000 hours."
I crack up every time I see that he refers to the State of the Union speech as "whatever you want to call it". It sounds like the class clown in Junior High.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:56 pmI don't believe that people are calling him an idiot because they don't understand the point he was trying to make. He's an idiot cause he cant make his point clear. I am not the most articulate person around, but I believe he should have said.
"People are asking, 'Where are all the Mandelas' Well, all the Mandelas are dead, Saddam killed them all"
When the president speaks, we should not have to "figure" out what he said and come to a "Logical" conclusion.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:56 pmWasn’t Allawi supposed to be the Mandela of Iraq? Or was it Chalabi?
Comment by Menehune — September 20, 2007 @ 12:40 pm
Allawi's more the Thabo Mbeki of Iraq. And Chalabi is, I dunno, Dr. Beetroot.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:56 pmI seem to recall something about Cheney objecting to Madella being released......I'm sure it was because he thought of him as a terrorist, I could be wrong
September 20th, 2007 at 1:00 pmMore hilarious clips from our national monkey. Duh-duh-duhbya.
~Sean
September 20th, 2007 at 1:05 pm#59, Was Bush trying to use a full-Nelson or just a half-Nelson?
-Comment by Doc Rock
Doc, I believe it was the ‘Dead Nelson’.
Comment by Zimzone — September 20, 2007 @ 12:46 pm
More like Major Nelson from "I Dream Of Jeannie"...........
September 20th, 2007 at 1:06 pm#83 - Yes... that's exactly what TP reported.
In a press conference this morning, President Bush tried to assert that Saddam’s brutal rule over Iraq wiped the country clean of potential democratic reformers — individuals who may have possessed leadership skills like former South African President Nelson Mandela. In doing so, Bush inartfully suggested Saddam killed Mandela
...?
Maybe the headline is a bit misleading, but they did report it correctly.
~Sean
September 20th, 2007 at 1:13 pmI, too, regret that Iraq has no Nelson Mandela. If there was a Mandela to take over as soon as Saddam was driven out, he would have kicked the foreign occupiers out. And without any oil, either.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:14 pmTP is really pathetic. Watch the clip again. He doesn’t say Nelson Mandella was killed by Saddam. He says Saddam killed all the Mandellas (plural) (as in the people who would have desented Hussein in Iraq, if he hadn’t killed them all).
You people should be smarter than this.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
Yeah , it was ALL SADDAM ............Chimpy's idiotic and illegal invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq , with about 1 million Iraqis killed and millions more displaced from their homes has absolutely nothing to do with it ................
I realize you aren't smart enough to realize and comprehend that , CrapstainMantastic.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:14 pm#82. The only Nelson Bush really knows is Willie.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:14 pmYou people should be smarter than this.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
And You should be actually smart enough to read the article before commenting
September 20th, 2007 at 1:15 pm#87 Captain, don't be a party pooper. If you want to read more accurate stuff, go to Fox News
September 20th, 2007 at 1:16 pmCaptainMantastic - I really didn't read this "report" thinking that TP was doing an indepth investigation of whether or not the President thinks Saddam killed Mandela. To me, it looks like Bush was just sounding like an idiot, and they wanted to poke fun of him. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I interpret this post.
~Sean
September 20th, 2007 at 1:16 pmCaptain Mantastic: "Whaaaa, snort, sniff, you people are soooooo unfair to our dear leader. Whaaaaa. You've misrepresented one of his intelligent musings. Whaaaa. Mantastic, don't you have some cruising to get to somewhere. Isn't there a public bathroom you need to get to for your daily tappings?
September 20th, 2007 at 1:17 pmWhat a lame...rhymes with duck.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:19 pm“For the record, Nelson Mandela is still alive while Saddam Hussein is dead. â€
Thinkprogress will post information like this, because they believe the audience here is ignorant enough to accept that Bush believes that Mandela is dead and Saddam killed him.
Please demand more from TP. For the sake of your own credibility.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
Like how adamant you Chimpy leg-humpers have been towards this administration's propogandist lies and claims , Crapstain ?
September 20th, 2007 at 1:20 pmThinkprogress will post information like this, because they believe the audience here is ignorant enough to accept that Bush believes that Mandela is dead and Saddam killed him.
Comment by CaptainMantastic — September 20, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
If we believe that Bush is capable of thinking that Mandela is dead and Saddam killed him, it's because he's got a track record of being an idiot, not because we are ignorant. However, I think most of us gave him credit for knowing that Saddam never killed Mandela -- he just tangled up what he intended to say (and Bush has an even BIGGER track record of misstatements - enough to fill up a couple of books so far).
September 20th, 2007 at 1:21 pm#44
“2) Mandela was a poor example of Bush’s point, as Mandela did not advocate (as far as I know) democracy through violent regime change.â€
Actually, he *did* advocate violence as a legitimate mechanism for regime change by the ANC in South Africa; that’s why he was sentenced to life in prison.
Comment by mongo — September 20, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Mongo, I think, and of course I could be wrong, but Mandela advocated destruction of infrastructure. Things like communication equipment and such. He vehemently opposed any violence to fellow humans and when his followers were destroying things he was adamant that no one get hurt in the process. This was wishful thinking as I believe some people were killed in these operations.
In other words, Mandela was doing what the US was doing to Iraq's infrastructure before the ousting of Saddam.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:22 pmGeorge has one thing correct, that Mandela has leadership skills. But George would know nothing about leadership and should just shut up.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:22 pmYou know what they say, "It's not the heat, it's the stupidity."
What a boob.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:25 pmMost of Iraq's intelligentsia, its writers, poets, philosophers, doctors, college professors, journalists, have fled the country and are now living in places like Jordan and Egypt. Shock and awe and the US policy of dismantling the social order and civil infrastructure of Iraq accomplished that. Bush himself would do away with the Iraqi equivalent of Nelson Mandela or put him in Abu Ghraib because that Iraqi would be a patriot and would oppose the violent invasion and permanent occupation of his country.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:28 pmI know what he was tryinh to say, but sheesh, could he say it any worse thatn he did? And he actually looked like he believed that Mandella was dead.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:30 pmTest
September 20th, 2007 at 1:38 pmNOOOOOOO A Test and I haven't studied!
September 20th, 2007 at 1:45 pmIt’s more like you cats are unhinged, “Col.â€.
BDS.
Comment by Toliver — September 20, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
Its more like you cannot defend your position without verbal attacks, such as "you cats are unhinged".
Typical drivel from you Toliver
September 20th, 2007 at 1:47 pmSadly, I understand what he's trying to say. He's just so goddamned awful at saying it.
September 20th, 2007 at 1:50 pmThe only Nelson Bush really knows is Willie.
Comment by tablogloid — September 20, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
And Willie Nelson does NOT like Bush.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:05 pmI'm not fan of Bush but I fully understand what he was saying and he is essentially correct. I see no need for a story or for a 100+ comment thread on it. The guys makkes enough mistakes to jump on that warrent more attention than this.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:07 pmWhat I was saying is he totally mangled what he was saying, but what he meant to say was correct.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:09 pmThe audacity of that G*d Damn F*cking MORON! Mandela is a democratic reformer that absolutely hates and denounces Bush and his actions.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:12 pmThe only Nelson Bush really knows is Willie.
Comment by tablogloid — September 20, 2007 @ 1:14 pm
And Willie Nelson does NOT like Bush.
Comment by Wayne — September 20, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
Lost the rest of my post, blahhh
Willie wrote this song in 2004
What Ever Happened To Peace On Earth
By Willie Nelson
There's so many things going on in the world
Babies dying
Mothers crying
How much oil is one human life worth
And what ever happened to peace on earth
We believe everything that they tell us
They're gonna’ kill us
So we gotta’ kill them first
But I remember a commandment
Thou shall not kill
How much is that soldier’s life worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
(Bridge)
And the bewildered herd is still believing
Everything we’ve been told from our birth
Hell they won’t lie to me
Not on my own damn TV
But how much is a liars word worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
So I guess it’s just
Do unto others before they do it to you
Let’s just kill em’ all and let God sort em’ out
Is this what God wants us to do
(Repeat Bridge)
And the bewildered herd is still believing
Everything we’ve been told from our birth
Hell they won’t lie to me
Not on my own damn TV
But how much is a liars word worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
Now you probably won’t hear this on your radio
Probably not on your local TV
But if there’s a time, and if you’re ever so inclined
You can always hear it from me
How much is one picker’s word worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
But don’t confuse caring for weakness
You can’t put that label on me
The truth is my weapon of mass protection
And I believe truth sets you free
(Bridge)
And the bewildered herd is still believing
Everything we’ve been told from our birth
Hell they won’t lie to me
Not on my own damn TV
But how much is a liars word worth
And whatever happened to peace on earth
"I said, 'He's not from Texas and he ain't a cowboy, so let's stop trashin' Texas and cowboys.' It got a little chuckle, but I didn't get run out of the country!," Willie Nelson, commenting on the Dixie Chicks getting a raw deal after being publicly criticised over their blasting President Bush's war policies.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:13 pmNelson Mandela is dead and Osama bin Laden is alive and an imminent threat to America.
September 20th, 2007 at 2:18 pmNurse Ratched that pain in my head is coming back. May I have another injection of 'support our troops'?
"Banging head on desk!"
September 20th, 2007 at 2:50 pmAhhh, YOU need to watch the clip again because he says:
September 20th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Exactly.
September 20th, 2007 at 3:39 pmComment #106: "You may not like what Bush has to say. But, at least, he will do what he says he’s going to do."
When did Bush say he was going to totally destroy Iraq?
September 20th, 2007 at 4:07 pmWhen did Bush say he was going to ruin America?
When did Bush say he supports habeas corpus?
First off I hate Bush as much as any sane person should, but the point he is making is that future iraqi "Mandela's" were killed by Saddam's regime.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pmProbably true and equally more true of those Mandela's that have been killed or silenced by the american occupation. Yes Bush has handelers telling him to say stupid stuff. Like a bird cage liner he has now been completely used up and is ready to be scape goated for everything that has happened on his watch. That is why the establishment can turn their back on him and now are willing to show us how stupid he is. Don't worry it's all caused by the dumb decision the dumb prez made ( who the voters voted for) This will all go away when he is gone (but no reason for impeachment, Pelosi). Problem is he did more for the establishment in his time than any other sell out leader, (until HITLERY, just wait). It was a success from the elite/police state perspective, and now he must be sacrificed to appease the public while the true agenda (controlling the right and the LEFT) moves forward faster than ever.
I'm not sure, but if Mandela was able to hold on to Bush's neck, America's trouble would be over. Here's a guy who could withstand 27 years of abuse from a South African/Israeli apartheid regime and come out a Statesman. What more can you ask?
September 20th, 2007 at 10:24 pmOMG -- Bush's comments today left me with a profound sense of shame. We all must apologize to the world for this dim-witted man.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:45 pmThanks for nothing CaptainMantastic, you had to ruin the best laugh I have had in a while (I don't laugh much anymore) and get me all angry again.
You mean Bush kept his promise of:
September 20th, 2007 at 11:24 pm1. Not nation building?
2. Using "war" as a last resort?
3. Helping New Orleans?
4. Taking care of veterans? (done nothing with Dole Shalaala report)
5. Catching Osama Bin Laden "dead or alive"?
6. "I will restore honor and integrity to the white house"?
7. "I am a Uniter, not a Divider"?
8. Election reform (well I guess he did this one - just not the way I hoped)
9. Beefing up Military (still don't have up armor vehicles or blast
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There are more, but I have spent too much time on here. Thanks for ruining a perfectly funny thread!
It has been said in this thread and I've heard it often from others that we must not take his words out of context, not focus on just the words and understand Bush's meanings when he makes these blunders. I actually have a co-worker who gets pissed off at me when I bring up such "Bushisms" for this very reason. I can tell the difference between Bush's meanings and his words. At some point, due to the frequency of such occurances the words have to speak for themselves. I couldn't get a job if I spoke in the same manner in an interview as Bush speaks to the entire world. It's a sad state of affairs that we must endure such a imbecile as the leader of our country. His actions and more frequently his words denote a lack of understanding, foresight and intelligence to deal with the issues that face the world and this country. Without the teleprompters it should be obvious to anyone that the man does not have a clue about whats's going on beyond what is discussed in the brief briefings before the speaking engagement. So often I watch Bush speak after the "speech" is over (i.e. the teleprompters are off) during the question and answer period, the man is just filling the obligatory time. He is without a doubt the most inept president this country has ever seen.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:29 pmSaddam, who didn't killed nor liked Mandela knew that George Bush was in fact trying to kill him, even as he knew that Bush's handler, Cheney, tried to get Mandela kept in prison after accussing him of being a "terrorist". Twenty seven years after beginning his fight against the Apartheid regime of South Africa, Mandela stands with many people who thought that, for sure, Americans would choose an idiot for President.
September 21st, 2007 at 12:16 amHere’s a guy who could withstand 27 years of abuse from a South African/Israeli apartheid regime and come out to be a statesman. What more can you ask?
September 21st, 2007 at 1:01 amThat's what it takes to be a Statesman None like him has ever been borned in South Africa or, Africa as a whole!. I"m a fan of Nelson Mandela, I'm sorry for being so explicit and I understand that if you don't share my enthusiam, it's not because you're wrong!
Who's my hero now? It's Mordechai Vanunu, an israeli who is against nuclear weapons and who has paid with many years of his life for his convictions. If you read his story, (Google it if you want to know), it makes you sad that it is about Israel and how they have treated him all along.
September 21st, 2007 at 1:45 amIraqi Mandelas arent dead. They are people like Al-Sadr. We may not find this concept appealing, but its true. The idea that an islamic "mandela" would be something the united states would approve of is farcical at best...
September 21st, 2007 at 4:56 amHi; new here. I have been a huge fan of this site for a while but only now noticed the post under the headlines of the articles.
I realize that Bush was trying to say Saddam killed all the would leaders of Iraq; however, he did say point blank that Mandalas is dead. Even metaphorically Mandalas is not dead as is evident by the link to the biography.
It is true that during Saddam's reign a lot of the people that could lead left or were killed, however; just as many people of those people have left or have been killed since the invasion.
September 21st, 2007 at 8:55 amBush wasn't speaking metaphorically. He didn't know what the hell he was saying. And if you right wing lunatics want to keep pretending that your brilliant leader was trying to do so, keep at it. Anyone with a lick of sense and a fourth grade education can see that this guy was just babbling. Keep defending this braindead loser and take your party down even faster.
September 21st, 2007 at 9:36 amYou Yanks always complain about Bush's intelligence (or lack of); and yet you re-elected him for a second term.Let's face it, everyone knew by the end of his first term that thinking and talking weren't his strong points, so what gives?.... You re-elected him because enough people believed that his Iraq plan would eventually work and he had the determination to stick with the plans no matter how unpopular. So you got exactly what you voted for!
September 21st, 2007 at 1:49 pmIt's TOTALLY amazing to me how such an IDIOT was irresponsibly PLACED in charge of a nation!! Cause you KNOW he didn't freakin win. And, his speeches prove WHY!
September 21st, 2007 at 2:29 pmNot my president. It is a sad chapter in our history that the guy who represents US is an illiterate buffoon.
No matter what he was trying to say he came off looking and sounding like a fool.
September 21st, 2007 at 3:28 pmHe might have been trying to tell us about how Saddam killed off all of the Mandela-like leaders in Iraq, but his little giggle lets us know that someone told him to say this stuff. He really thinks it's great that the man he wants to be could do that kind of thing. I think he'd like to kill off all of us who disagree with him.
Ever notice how much more easy he speaks when he's talking about death and destruction? Even in the same sentence. His cute little smirk, and I just love how he laughs at the thought of killing off great people.
Everytime he speaks I wish I lived in Canada.
September 21st, 2007 at 4:06 pmI'm leaving the country - somewhere I won't be ashamed of. Anyone want to join me?
September 21st, 2007 at 9:39 pmSomeone, anyone, please give me one example of a genuine (as opposed to one tinkled into his ear) apt Bush metaphor. All I'm asking is for one example that wasn't just another failed attempt to utilize the same word in a different tense or in a different place in a sentence.
September 22nd, 2007 at 1:06 amThe man wouldn't know a metaphor from a meta-5. And his anger and arrogance when forced to face his own ignorance, as in this video, is chilling.
If Bush was given the "opportunity" (snicker) to debate the Iraq war question(to leave or stay?) against Bill Clinton, on national TV...who do you think would win?
September 22nd, 2007 at 7:22 amI watched and listened to the President's press conference when this comment was made. I can tell you that anyone with even a minimum cluster of intelligent brain cells would have known that his allusion to Mandella was not that "Nelson Mandella" is dead, but that Iraqis of Mandella's character are dead because of Saddam Hussein. Are we so quick to belittle our President that all common sense flies out the window in order to take a verbal or written "pot-shot" at him?
September 22nd, 2007 at 9:59 amHey Big Brother:
September 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 pmAmericans of Mandela's (not Mandella) character are also apparently "dead" - not because of Saddam Hussein but because of fear of this "lack of one iota of common sense administration" which is a deserving magnet for any and all pot shots.
War is the lowest form of human endeavor; and that sadly is what this administration is all about. The attempt to spin another unfortunate gaffe is just so pathetic and wearisome.
CS07:You can spy on some of us some of the time and all of us some of the time, but you can't spy on all of us all of the time.
What perfect teatre!
September 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 amGo George ! (what kind of medication do you need or perhaps get to much of ?)
To bad for all the good people of Usa, that this dude makes the rest of the world just loose respect and laugh of Usa.
Oslo Norway.
I agree that war is the lowest form of human endeavor. As to the pot shot theory towards the President, whatever your politics, you don't have to respect the man (or his administration), but we should respect the position. If we could do better we'd be sitting there.
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:53 pmAre we so quick to belittle our President that all common sense flies out the window in order to take a verbal or written “pot-shot†at him?
Comment by CommonSense2007 — September 22, 2007 @ 9:59 am
Menstruating Women March on Washington: Red Bush on G Bush.
September 24th, 2007 at 6:20 pmPot shot accomplished, commander.
The whole world should wake up and act now. Boycott ALL American products. Every country in the world should stop supplying America with its consumables. Every Oil country in the world should start trading their oil in Euros not US Dollars because why should we trade in a currency that has no value and if their is a value then its certainly not stable enough. The world is united on one thing, they ALL hate America and its totally ignorant leaders who are bombing countries they cant even spell, let alone point out on a map. 70% of Americans don't even know where England is on the map. Hello!
September 24th, 2007 at 10:07 pmSo what if America puts sanctions on every country that doesn't want to play ball. Nobody wants to play ball with America anyway. All Americans should take a step back, and if they are not to ignorant contemplate what America is doing to the rest of the world. Take a long good look at yourselves and the Monkeys YOU voted into power. Are You happy the way things are? Are you happy that in YOUR country you don't even have the basic human right of Habeas Corpus - Free Speech.
How can a nation of idiots who don't even practice free speech and democracy impose those rights onto other nations by force?
Bush is the spokes person for the free world and America. Sorry, I live in a free part of this world, and we are not Bush fans and he does not speak for me or my countrymen. Bush is a Joke, and all Americans who follow this Joke are being laughed at all around the world. You Americans need to educate yourselves and listen to what other people from around the world are saying.
Why do you think they tell all Americans who travel outside on the states to keep a low profile and no openly shout out they are Americans? (There was a time it was cool to be an American).
Only 2% of All Americans have a passport. Out of that 2% over half are military people. That leaves a handful of Americans who are Worldly. Surely a nation with absolute NO knowledge or interest of the rest of the world should reflect that knowledge by pulling their necks in and stop telling US (The rest of the world) what to do.
Only then, once America sorts out their own mess at home, apologizes to Iraq and any other country they have illegally invaded, cleaned up their mess and actually becomes an example to the rest of the world, only then will America possibly be respected again. But until then, I speak for a huge global majority from hundreds of countries. Nobody respects Americans anymore. Nobody likes Americans anymore. Soon, people are going to do something about it and it isn't going to look good for Bush and his followers. So take head America, your days are numbered and come the elections or in 483 Days when Bush leaves office you better vote in an President and not some dumb monkey.
Your future and lives depend on it.